Is There Pirate Treasure on Oak Island?

There definitely is money there, if you own the History Channel.
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[@dariusmackenzie9863]

As a Nova Scotian, I can say with 100% certainty that there's definitely money there. Tourist dollars, to be specific!

[@omlettedufromage8588]

really? do alot of people visit their oak island visitors site?

[@nobelsteed6440]

Explain Samuel Ball...Wood brought up from depth...Silver and gold microns in the ground water at only a few of their wells. Obviously this guy needs to do more research or watch an episode. There is or was something buried there on the island. The question is what is still left...possibly not much...or...maybe...

[@wuldntuliktonoptb6861]

@@nobelsteed6440 those history channel guys are the biggest quacks they drop a coin from the 1600s on the ground pick it up and like look omg this is proof theres treasure

[@TheNeonParadox]

Budum tsss! 🤣🤣

[@dwwolf4636]

Another case of mining the miners.....

[@anjaprinsen781]

As someone who lives in, and grew up in Nova Scotia, there’s not a lot for kids to do here - digging a 30 foot hole whilst searching for treasure seems like a good time!

[@SmolFrogge]

Oh you like minecraft? Literally do it. Kids make their own games and sometimes treasure?!

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

I've met more than a few Nova Scotian's ... can confirm!

[@fattonyd232]

I grew up there too. Kids I agree but that's no excuse for the foolish adults doing it

[@fattonyd232]

@@robertcampomizzi7988 you're meeting one now. What was said that you confirm?

[@NickDBaker]

@@SmolFrogge but the outside place scares the wee lil flossers

[@capraedwards-smith4587]

Anyone else hoping they find the treasure just for the “Simon Script Eating” video?

[@KMACKTIME]

I swear everytime I see his face on a thumbnail I’m like cool new mega project, oh it’s today I learned, oh it’s side projects, oh no wait it’s yet ANOTHER spin off channel. And its awesome. Idk how you put out so much top notch content but I’m here for it

[@pinkystew]

i feel this comment so much.

[@kombotmarine1304]

Ya same for me but casual criminalist

[@kombotmarine1304]

He does it by delegating production and writing so he can spend 10 hours away in from of a camera

[@LostAmericanJ]

Me 2 and me 3

[@WeChallenge]

It's clones I tell you, clones. I need a couple just to kep up with his clones content.

[@joeshumo9457]

The treasure has been discovered by the Lagina brothers. Selling the story itself, while fulfilling a boyhood dream of adventure, intrigue and the bond of brotherhood. While there being an actual chance, even if slight, of finding a buried treasure. Genius.

[@dogfish3373]

Agreed, if they find a historic find, it would be owed by the gov.t and the king as a figure head. They would all agree on a exhibit to share for all.

[@chrislevack405]

The historical discoveries is the real treasure.

[@martinjefferson3395]

Scientific evidence of this bold statement?

[@biofoot7874]

Objection! Why isn't Simon wearing a pirate hat in the thumbnail? It's been a hard year, please, we need this

[@atlanciaza]

Yes, yes, yes, come on, Simon!!!

[@WvlfDarkfire]

Cmon Jen. Hear our voices. We need you here!

[@daniellane9144]

It's ok. He was not wearing pants so that makes up for it. :D

[@micheal49]

I don't think he is Pastafarian.

[@heeteshpatel7089]

Come on Simon! Shiver me timbers you scallywagz! Grrrr....keep up the fun times Simon;)

[@adrianwarner8686]

Simon: "Surely they find something in the end, right?" Me: "Oh you poor, sweet, summer child."

[@angryatheist]

😂 😂😂

[@sparky6086]

Oak Island is merely the vestige of a salt producing opereration, where people used to take an area, where salt would concentrated naturally through evaporation and enhance it's efficiency by manmade means. This was how salt was produced in the old days, back when many salt mines were either tightly controlled by their owners or yet to be discovered. The Oak Island salt operation would have been abandoned a few hundred years ago and forgotten about, but since it's in a cold area, some of it's remnants remained long enough to inadvertently fool dreamers who came later.

[@whyjnot420]

@@sparky6086 In something relevant to that I remember reading about "mysterious" stone archaeological remains in north Africa. They did not have much context to them but people labeled them as places for making sacrifices due to the shape of the stone as they seemed to have an indentation meant for putting a persons head in the right place. They were left with this label for some time. That is, until people familiar with how Romans made wine saw these and were able to show that they were just presses, with only the stone parts remaining. Is Oak Island just the forgotten remnants of salt production? Personally I can only say that I do not know. But I can point to other known instances in history where the mundane was forgotten about only to pop back up with fantastical descriptions attached to them, only to be shown that they were mundane afterall.

[@sparky6086]

@Gerald H Thus; "North Carolina Tar Heels"

[@InsanityPlea100]

'This was nearly 200 years ago. It had better be solved' Me, a Nova Scotian, who has followed this since I was able to read, takes a deep breath: Oh Fact Boi. I have something unfortunate to tell you.

[@Gamergeek56]

Ah awesome to see a fellow nova scotian that's a fan of simon!

[@SarahBent]

I feel like the whole province has turned out for this. Lol

[@tommyodonovan3883]

Blue Nosers pot of gold.

[@micheljeanrie1800]

I'm from Dartmouth, NS. Back in the 1970s the Oak Island story was taught in school, I know the sorry so well in even more detail done here (and I've never watched the TV show). I'm not saying the treasure is real or not, but it is certainlly believed to be by many (including the educational system back when). By the way, diggin down 30' in Nova Scotia is way harder then even Simon thinks, lots and lots of granite and slate fairly close to the surface.

[@MikeBaxterABC]

I recall teachers in rural Nova Scotia in the 1970's using the word Ain't, and the N word, in classroom conversation :)

[@seanarthur8392]

Michel Jeanrie, I agree. Hard diggin'. That's why I say the Pit wasn't ever that deep. If it was buried pirate loot, then it would have been put there a century before, in the later 1600s, not 1795. By sailors. With a few pick axes and wooden shovels, with a day or two of work at most.

[@SgtJoeSmith]

1. Why pirates bury treasure when they could afford to retire from being pirates with it. 2. Pretty sure burying it a foot deep on remote uninhabited island would been good enough. No need to go 40feet deep. 3. You know how hard it is to dig 40 feet? 4. Like Simon said. Dig deep enough and hit water table. I've done it here in my state.

[@Matkin222]

The one thing I will say about the Oak Island show is that there are some genuinely interesting archaeological discoveries that have been made because of it. The gold hunt may be a wild goose chase, but the artefacts are quite cool.

[@dtaylor10chuckufarle]

Exactly.

[@FallingSloths]

Actually, these last 3 episodes they have pulled little bits of Spanish Tumbaga gold out of the Money Pit, this podcast is just outdated already. The gold was found stuck to multiple metal objects pulled from a horizontal tunnel they found at 90 feet. Chemical analysis shows the classic imprecise gold-copper alloy used by the Conquistadors, and analysis of water from the hole had so much dissolved gold and silver that there should be much, much more down there. Aside from the horizontal nature of the tunnel being strange for a searcher, two separate pieces of wood from the structure independently dated ~1500-1650, which would be over 100 years before the search started. This corresponds to the era of the big uncharted stone warf they found in the swamp last year. So as wild as it is, it looks like they proved that there is indeed a pre-searcher structure 90 feet underground on Oak Island with multiple objects holding bits of Spanish gold recovered. And no, the finds aren't "seeded". For one thing, any archaeologist or geologist will tell you that they actually do a good job of showing the objects being removed in-situ from undisturbed earth -- you can tell when ground is disturbed vs undisturbed vs disturbed hundreds of years ago. And for another thing, at this point the dig is being monitored closely by the Canadian gov, and falsifying any archaeological finds with cameras around would be taking an utterly wild risk when you are already making tons of money from multiple TV shows. You can't get away with faking anything as significant as this find would be, and there is no reason to do so when you are making money off at least 4 shows like the Laginas are.

[@Skullet]

@@FallingSloths Gold doesn't disolve in salt water or any water for that matter and I doubt there's any aqua regia down that hole, so that seems suspect at best.

[@FallingSloths]

@@Skullet I'm glad you mentioned that! It is something they explain extensively in the show. Basically their first test is just for silver because gold is so insoluble. BUT if you remember high school chemistry, nothing is TOTALLY insoluble, and there are indeed modern methods for detecting those minute amounts left by gold. It is pretty expensive stuff, but once they got the silver hits, they figured it would be worth it to run tests for gold, and sure enough they got hits on that as well, with the holes producing gold signatures independently matching those that had tested positive for silver. BUT even if you are still skeptical, remember that bits of tumbaga gold were also pulled out of the hole on multiple objects and directly tested. No water solubility needed or anything -- straight up isolated the gold and tested it directly: ~65% gold, 21% copper, and the rest silver and other metals, consistent with conquistador tumbaga and nothing natural It is totally understandable to be skeptical if they just sampled the water for gold and that was it. But when you are also pulling bits of tumbaga out of the hole -- so you know that at least SOME gold is provably in the hole -- a test saying that there is more down there becomes a lot more believable

[@jrunyan24]

The person that wrote this script clearly does not watch the show. And Simon, if you are into metal detectors, the ones they use on this show are amazing. They are the best you can buy and cost thousands of dollars. I don't know if they will find buried treasure, but they have found some really neat artifacts. Artifacts that are pretty hard to explain away.

[@jonathanl1276]

The chance to see Simon Whistler eating this script should be enough motivation for entire nations to band together to dig for alleged treasure on Oak Island! 😆

[@bronhaller]

I'd love to see it turn out to be true, and then random videos in the future, Simon looks deadpan at the camera, rips a corner off a page, and stuffs it in his mouth, chewing slowly and still looking deadpan at the camera! No explanation, so only those who know about his statement understnd what's happening!

[@dennisshields7483]

The fact that using science, they have found huge amounts of silver traces and gold. And if you watch the most recent episode of digging down. The producers said that they are installing some new tech that will answer the questions.

[@TheScreamMan]

To be fair, Marty Lagina himself said the Money Pit was called that because it you throw money into it and it disappears. Also while treasure hasnt been found, there is Significant evidence of SOME kind of old activity on the island, so SOMEONE did some weird stuff there. Do I think they'll ever find treasure? No. Do I still enjoy the show and think that they have genuinely found some cool stuff? Yes.

[@jennyreese4913]

I watch it too. I'm not sure there is treasure there (probably not anymore) but something sure happened there with that road they are uncovering.

[@MSculls19]

I agree, i think if there was something there, and evidence seems to suggest as much, i think it was found a long long time ago. I think that's the case with most buried treasures, we're so far past when they were hidden, i have to imagine someone else just got there first and never told anyone. I mean, would you? Government's for the last few hundred years would lay claim to it the moment you let it slip.

[@phelps88ap]

I agree that the treasure is no longer there, but there was definitely at least 2 major operations on the island and I hope that we get to find out exactly what happened there.

[@SMDoktorPepper]

Look at it logically...even with modern technology, they cannot stop the flooding of ANY tunnels..the island is at sea level, with a very high water table..yet people think people without that modern tech, can somehow dig hundreds of feet under the island? It doesnt make any sense.

[@AnneAslaug]

@Gerald H And this is the reason the place is called "Pine Island".

[@avalonaudiovisual]

East Coast Canadian here! While working for a retirement home I met a wonderful 97 year old gentleman who was, like his father, a fisherman turned boat engineer who mainly worked in Nova Scotia. While flicking through the channels on television one day we saw a commercial for the Oak Island TV show, and the gentleman muttered "damn fools", when I asked him why he told me about how the locals from the old days all knew what happened to the treasure. It's been gone for many moons, and was very hush hush as a lot of old money in the area is from said treasure. Nobody advertised this obviously, so it was lost to time and legend with people still thinking maybe its down there somewhere on Oak Island.

[@SharonFromNB]

There's something still leeching gold and silver in the water. Fingers crossed! I just want to see these guys win.

[@JamieTheSassenachLass]

At this point, the La Gina’s have spent way more on blind digging than finding actual treasure. They did find some pretty old artifacts..some gold coins, but nothing that will be valuable to them since they have wracked up a hefty amount of money spent. Even if they did find the treasure, it probably wouldn’t recover what they have spent already.

[@danielh4995]

@@JamieTheSassenachLass You are probably right, but they seem to be in it now for the history and the hunt rather than getting rich off of it, or at least that is what they portray in the show. Im sure they are making money off the show itself, and at least a couple of the members are already quite wealthy so I doubt money is the single motivating factor. Even if they dont find a huge treasure they have still found previously unknown structures, artifacts, etc that showed human activity and involvement from various European countries that predate what was historically known so for that it is at least interesting.

[@jmo82592]

@@JamieTheSassenachLass the show is their gold it gets tons of mindless viewers

[@who3514]

Source: trust me, bro

[@51ghardy]

As a weekly viewer of The Curse of Oak Island I have long thought that the treasure was found and spent by Robert Ball around 1800. I am more interested in the possibility of some hard evidence that Christopher Columbus was not the first to cross the Atlantic. It's almost a forgone conclusion that Leif Erikson crossed the Atlantic but didn't document it. Vikings and Templar Knights certainly traveled heavily before the birth of Christopher Columbus.

[@scooterdogg7580]

yup as Nova Scotian ,I definitely believe it was found by the first or second dig , they just left a mystery for the rest

[@scooterdogg7580]

check Viking records , its documented they brought back grapes (scholars say they mistook gooseberry for grape) they were European they knew what grapes were , which means they got at least as far as new England , I found it intriguing ,

[@joeshumo9457]

Christopher Columbus was about the discovery of the Americas both south and north, on e and for all definitively and more specifically the actual route to take that could be used to establish a working trade route. You’ve drastically over simplified the matter as if you’ve only done conformationally biased research and relying on hearsay. Open your mind.

[@xAnAngelOfDeathx]

@@scooterdogg7580 Why would they fill in the hole if they found the treasure, that doesn't make sense.

[@DarylSaunders737]

100% correct, and I believe thats where the story is, what and how did Samuel Ball distribute the treasure.

[@DustinBarlow8P]

Considering they have been on the air for like 8 seasons I believe History Channel has gotten the treasure in advertiser money.

[@joehoover7711]

🤣🤣🤣

[@powwowken2760]

The Oak Island stuff reminds me of how I actually got a kick out of the very early episodes of Ancient Aliens. Sure there's almost certainly no treasure on Oak Island, just like Aliens didn't build the Pyramids, however the real history involved is quite cool once you separate it from the nonsense.

[@JoshSees]

I'd like to see blaze Simon interview the alien dude with the wild hair

[@joshuahadams]

If you like Ancient Aliens as a laugh, check out Lovecraft’s stories. “The Nameless City”, “The Whisperer in Darkness”, and “At the Mountains of Madness”, in that order, would give you a good idea of where Ancient Aliens got their ideas from.

[@SMDoktorPepper]

But there is SO much nonsense..

[@sclarin2]

@@SMDoktorPepper exactly my thought it's like 95% nonsense and i'm not willing to wade through all that when youtube exists

[@DocBree13]

Same!

[@lanicotton8507]

With all the digging I’m surprised there is still a recognizable island left.

[@oli24yt]

grew up just down the shore from oak island. had a (very sweet and talented) friend from highschool who was a bit of a flower-child-mysticism art student get hired to do some professional art/graphics for the history channel show as her first real paid gig during her fine arts undergrad a few years back, and she bought in SUPER hard and earnestly on their sales-pitch of the treasure/booby trap story in the process, so the rest of our friend group (a number of science/engineering students and some lay skeptics) all had to nod along politely when she'd wax off about the mystery and intrigue of it all at holiday get-togethers while showing off her (genuinely very good) artwork and the signed posters/merch the crew gave her. she's too nice a person for us to have wanted to really truly argue and potentially upset her, but watching simon just rip this entire thing up and down without mercy several years later is weirdly cathartic for me lol

[@lizziesangi1602]

I bet it is. Poor thing to have got sucked into the melee and should have kept her involvement strictly professional.

[@workbased683]

This was filmed before they detected the large amount of gold found in the ground water and didn't mention the ship they're finding in the swamp, as told in the tale.

[@XxxXxx-fm3wo]

finding a boat is far from a ship an old boat on an Island is not uncommon; nor is gold in ground water

[@ransakreject5221]

Wait.. gold can be found in the ground? And old broken boats can be found on the beech? Well I for one am amazed!

[@shaunlenton8865]

A few years ago, some bloke with a metal detector found a load of 'Anglo Saxon ' gold. The good had been buried in a field in Staffordshire, England. The guy that found it and the land owner got about £1.25million each..... The gold was buried around 1000+ years ago. So treasure is out there and can be found, but it's not easy, if you walk around with a metal detector the odds of you finding actual treasure are ridiculously small. If you do plan on going out and hunting for buried treasure, then my advice is take your dog 🐕with you, you won't find any treasure but at least you can take your dog 🐕for a walk, that way you won't have wasted your entire day. You ain't found any treasure but at least you have walked your dog...

[@chitlitlah]

For most, metal detecting isn't about finding treasure that'll make you rich. It's about finding cool stuff from several decades to a few centuries ago. I only did it briefly, but I found a foil wrapper like you'd find on a champagne bottle but it was for milk, a brass figurine of a bulldog in my grandparents' front yard and despite living there for decades, they didn't recognize it, plus some other interesting stuff. It's more like a history expedition than a search for treasure. I've wanted to take my metal detector to a nearby lake that used to be popular during the days of the railroad but has been abandoned since the automobile became common, but I never got around to it.

[@luminoustarisma]

@@chitlitlah Just be careful if you are metal detecting in Europe. I've read a number of occasions when people find items from WW2,and not necessarily shrapnels of it.

[@PlumSack79]

Hey, stop typing dog so much there

[@robincowley5823]

Re Viking ships - they had no seats for the oarsmen. The crew brought their own sea chests to sit on whilst they rowed, thus solving the storage problem at the same time. So no, Simon won't be eating the script. At least not for that reason.

[@claytonberg721]

he'd probably chop the script up and put it in danny's gruel.

[@CrudzMcKenzie]

The Laginas have found several interesting things on the island from an archeological perspective. While the Money Pit itself hasn't produced anything of note, the brothers unearthed a stonework road that runs around the nearby swamp, along with a lot of evidence of settlement and possibly industrial development that dates back to before the original discovery of the Pit. It's not treasure per se, but it's interesting from a historical standpoint since there are no records of activities on the island from the time period in question. The Curse of Oak Island is a moderately interesting show if you can get past the History Channel's click baity format.

[@AzraelThanatos]

I'd found the show fascinating from the perspective of the islands history with the various treasure hunters and theories that have been pushed about the island over the past century or two.

[@dtaylor10chuckufarle]

Thank you!

[@willmfrank]

@Aitch I can hear Bob Clotworthy now: "On the NEXT episode of "The Curse...of Oak. Island... Is it possible? Can it be true? Does Aitch REALLY have crap? Crap in the garden? Crap that is more interesting than ANYTHING on Oak Island?"

[@aaronmorgan9444]

@@willmfrank .....on the previous episode we found 2 pieces of toilet paper and 4 single pieces of corn whilst on the search for *the crap better than oak island!*

[@aeray3581]

"... oak logs." (picture of birch logs) Me, "Jen!!"

[@claranielsen9330]

You really need to binge watch the series. . They found a cross going back to the knights templar that corresponded to templar crosses in France. They have also found jewelery, pieces of eight, and found wood from ships and a lot of other things in the swamp. I give you some things but it sounds like your researcher only watched one episode and excluded a lot. I do think the treasure is gone but all if the historical artifacts are treasure in a sense and it would behoove y'all to take a deeper dive.

[@DocBree13]

I agree - fascinating stuff

[@Sevlar01]

This is why I still think it was Vikings. The were known to have sailed to North America, created settlements at both Labrador Coast and Southern Newfoundland and they were known to raid Europe where they would have gotten a lot of those items.

[@mark_williamh1340]

I enjoy watching the Blaze slowly seep into everything Simon does

[@blisterbeetle01]

He created The Blaze, now The Blaze creates him!

[@blackc1479]

It will slowly absorb all his other channels, then shortly all of yt. And the whole web immediately thereafter.👍

[@moo-snuckle]

The blaze doesnt absord, it blazes. But its so intense of an inferno now that it may consume many lesser channels if it stays as hot and keeps expanding to dryer areas. The entire youtube rainforest is in perilous peril-allegedly,in my opinion.buhduhbum tiss

[@blisterbeetle01]

@@moo-snuckle oooh noooo! The BLAZE has consumed the previous commenter!!

[@moo-snuckle]

@@blisterbeetle01 *kent brockman voice*the HUMANITY!!

[@yoursotruly]

Not long to wait, they are digging ten-foot diameter holes at the money pit where multiple indications of gold and silver were found but the Canadian government has taken over the whole island except the money pit area because of all the amazing archeological finds. The mystery of who did all the excavations on the island and how it relates to a hidden part of history is why so many watch, if they found the treasure and walked away, viewers would be very disappointed, we want to hear the rest of the story! "Is there pirate treasure?" misses the point that pirates were a huge part of naval history and have left a lot of mystery about who they were and what they did with the loot. Turns out it's complicated.

[@tinabean713]

I did not know that. I know my dad and my aunt have been watching this show since it started and so if I show up and its on the TV I always make a joke asking whether they've found it yet. Apparently this is a mystery my dad remembers from his childhood and we live nowhere near Canada so there's also a huge nostalgia factor but I guess all the related history would be what keeps viewers going episode after episode. Not sure who he's going to watch it with now that she married his brother - my mom prefers to NOT pay attention to whatever he's watching and then ask lots of questions.

[@RAS_Squints]

Simon needs to watch the Alternative History KZbin vid where Cody explains how 'Ancient Aliens' on the History Channel is still a thing to see how they milk stuff out

[@bloughme5947]

I've watched this show since season one. I've long given up on the idea that there is anything on monetary value there, at least in terms of gold or gemstones. Items of religious significance or historical documents, nah. However if you keep up to date with the project, they are finding some very odd artifacts and evidence of human activity that pre-date the time of the original legend by centuries and at depths below ground that begs the question, what exactly were these people doing? That in and of itself is very interesting. Plus they uncovered Mi'kmaq artifacts, which culturally speaking is important. Was there ever gold/treasure there? Probably not, or at least if there was, it's long gone at this point. Did something happen on that island, long before the legend took hold? The evidence shows yes. So the shift in the show has been more to finding out what those people were doing and why. They still embellish quite a bit which is really annoying, but they do have a TV show to produce so I just complain and keep watching.

[@cotati76]

I love the creative editing of the show before commercial breaks that makes it look like something amazing was about to be found and then after the break they find piece of wood. It’s a total waste of time.

[@malicious217]

Hey! I lived in Nova Scotia for a time when I was a kid and yeah... The odds that anything anyone says is there ACTUALLY BEING THERE is small. But it would be cool if something was.

[@mattguey-lee4845]

The History channel show "The Curse of Oak Island" is more of an archeological show. I would suggest watching a few episodes of the current and last season. The Laginas have made several significant archeological finds the last few years roads and walls across the island. They have found enough interesting stuff that the provincial government of Nova Scotia has required them to have archeological permits in certain areas.

[@brianford8493]

No Archaeology there mate

[@JoshuaBurgess]

@@brianford8493 I mean, its the typical History Channel drama garbage, but they did find that stone roadway and those indigenous artifacts that were previously unknown.

[@richardbradley5217]

They are not archaeologists and you can see it. Go watch a British program called time team and you will see what archaeology is

[@rogermwilcox]

A typical episode of _The Curse of Oak Island_: MARTY: "What've you got there?" DIGGER: "I found a piece of wood." NARRATOR: "Wood? Buried underground? Could it be part of a treasure chest, containing the lost works of William Shakespeare? The treasures of the Knights Templar? The Ark of the Covenant? The Holy Grail? And, if so, might the entire history of North America need to be rewritten?"

[@ALuimes]

@@richardbradley5217 You must be Canadian. Combining "program" with "arch*a*eology".

[@thejudgmentalcat]

"How do you do it, History Channel?" They sold out. Completely. Same with Discovery and NatGeo.

[@dave200204]

I first read about Oak Island years ago in my middle school years. I’ve been a fan of the show ever since it started. I will admit it gets kind of boring. I laughed way too hard at Simon. Maybe I am a fool for believing it. However there is still a chance that one day I will see Simon eat a bunch of paper. Maybe I’ll send him some hot sauce to go with the script. LOL

[@zniloserkrf5790]

I read about Oak Island in 7th or 8th Grade (US). This was the mid '60s or so. The source was an obscure publication, put out by a group that was skeptical of many dubious claims. Their moto: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. A typical statement would be: "While (the claim,) can't be falseified. No reliable evidence has been found to support said claim

[@zipperneckfronkenstein3364]

I watch shows like that occasionally when I need to remind myself while I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, I'm certainly not THAT stupid 😆

[@robinmoreau6668]

My grandfather was French Canadian. He told the story of the boys digging on the island differently... His story was that two or three boys took a row boat out to an island that was supposedly the resting place of a cursed treasure. But you can only find the treasure if you are completely silent while digging. The boys dug in silence for quite some time, but when one of their shovels hit something (What they believed to be a treasure chest) he made a sound of delight... and the chest sunk deeper onto the ground to be forever out of their reach. Idk where he got that story, it's just what I remember him telling me when I was young 🤷‍♀️

[@ganggang363]

That's a great story, at very least it's a fun one, imagine the dread and regret after making your involuntary sound, who couldn't tho, when finding a grand chest of treasure 😂

[@evilwelshman]

_"Searching For Kickass Treasure On Lonely Oak Island With Ricky Martin"_ would definitely be a show I would tune into every week. 😁😁

[@theUglyGypsy]

For reelz

[@FLY2KO]

gaywad says what?

[@apricotsun1387]

I 100% only know about this place because of another Simon video...but *which* channel?

[@slygun451]

They literally found coins, garnet broaches and other historical artifacts dating back to medieval times! For some reason they have excavated MANY historical landmarks ALL OVER the island. Does no one ACTUALLY watch the show? lol

[@Gdwmartin]

Given how long people have lived in the area and how many groups have been there digging and filling the holes back in over the last two hundred plus years, these finds are all rather mundane and ordinary. Any treasure trove was found long ago by Mac Guinness, Vaughn, Ball and Smith most likely. It’s been hinted at since season 2 or 3, With members of the oak island team starting new shows and the NS Govt clamping down on their dig sites I expect that the show will conclude soon. The government not letting them dig where they want will provide them with an out

[@slygun451]

@@Gdwmartin History is the reward and they find more of it each show...YOU ONLY value gold and silver whereas I could CARE FUCKING LESS about gold I'll never get to touch...MEANWHILE all that "mundane"🤣 HISTORY they are ARCHAEOLOGICALLY PRESERVING before it & it's story are LOST TO TIME! You value cash.... I value INTELLIGENCE which is why I DO NOT VALUE YOUR OPINION lmfao!

[@reh3884]

They found garbage, not at actual treasure. And that's assuming they didn't plant it there for the show.

[@Gdwmartin]

@@slygun451 well now aren't you silly. Of course history is the real treasure. However the WHOLE PREMISE of the show has been around buried pirate treasure in a pit on that island. As for the archaeology? The team pulled the plug on that the other week. The only archeologist on site will be Laird and that's just to make sure they stay away from the identified red zones on the map. They are going back to archeology by excavator.

[@slygun451]

@@Gdwmartin You CLEARLY do not watch the show as MARTY & RICK(the owners of OAK ISLAND & people the show is based on) say almost every single show..."the story is the treasure"...because they know they aren't likely to find anything...EXCEPT HISTORY...which is perfectly fine...people watch shows about fictionalized Cop drama involving rape DAILY, they watch shows about Tuna fishing, I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY FINE to watch a "go no where" treasure hunt...I don't know why YOU CARE IF I ENJOY THE ENTERTAINMENT PROVIDED TO ME ON MY TELEVISION....but it makes you a DOUCH BAG so have fun with your depression or whatever you're going through LMFUCKINGAO

[@Bootsalmighty]

As a life long lover of the oak island legend, watching Simon slowly learn its history is absolute gold.

[@malachichampion]

Simon seems to hit peak British indignation starting at 13:35, and I absolutely can't get enough of it. This format is amazing!

[@michealball5560]

My KZbin feed is basically all Simon at this point

[@jeremys.950]

The best way to keep stuff safe back before all this modern security was to have people looking for it in places no where near where it truly is

[@theclandestinewitness]

There is no treasure but it's fun to watch people spend their life savings in search of it lol

[@RHCole]

There appears to be some sort of structure in Smith's Cove, just no treasure.

[@Master_Yoda1990]

At least their finds still have historical value, which is why I wish a museum or some sort of historical society would buy that portion of land so they could collect artifacts without destroying everything.

[@Theggman83]

Lol spend their life savings? Marty and Rick were already millionaires when they purchased half of oak island, now because of the success of their show, I've seen estimates of over $100 million in combined wealth between them. In other words, they found their treasure.

[@marqsee7948]

it is good to not enjoy witnessing the suffering of others.

[@antonio_fidalgo]

@@Theggman83 the brothers may be making money with the show, but the ones that came before wasted their savings and even lives for nothing. But they did that to themselves...

[@alexjohnson1261]

This man really said with a straight face that people don't bury treasure and then set booby traps to protect it....ummm ask the Japanese about that one... anyone heard of the Philippines??? Captain Yamashita??? Come on Simon

[@tracymartell4040]

Do I think there is treasure? No, I believe a small fortune was found in the first or second digs and that is how Samuel Ball went from slave status in the U.S. to buying up most of the plots on Oak Island and became incredibly wealthy. The original Money Pit location has been lost because so many treasure hunters dug there irresponsibly and didn't record exact coordinates of the hole. The Lagina brothers have found some weird shit by building a coffer dam in Smith's Cove showing evidence there is a manmade booby trap system and remnants of a slipway (would be used to unload ships). They have also found some sort of manmade concrete platform buried underneath the triangle shaped swamp, and artifacts like 18th century ship pins and a lead cross. A few years ago, the Lagina's sent an expert scuba diver down Borehole X but didn't find anything bc it was too murky down there to see. Definitely some weird stuff happened on the island. You really should watch the tv series.

[@Theggman83]

Considering Rick and Marty have made a fortune from their show.... 👍 They found their treasure.

[@TheFool1122]

You....you got a point

[@sookendestroy1]

Doesnt the one dude own an oil drilling company as well?

[@zeykriid]

27:30 yknow I was resolving not to mention it, but… I lived on an acre of land as a kid, and my three siblings and I used to dig through the sand (we live in the desert). Little brother dug up a metal hunk one day; every time we swept around it to pull it up, it was larger than we thought. Eventually my father yelled that we were going to cause a collapse and made us go inside while he investigated. It was an off-road four wheel drive Landcruiser. Buried in our yard. Yes, I am absolutely serious.

[@danelynch7171]

Cartels

[@LaurieAnnCurry]

Oh the story that cruiser could tell

[@haroldlogan5218]

So much you left out that has been found underground dating to pre 1500. Human bones as well. What about the stone road under many feet of dirt. Just saying you left a crap ton out.

[@whiteumbrella9344]

Great video but the script left out one of the best stories on Oak Island. And this actually happened. The best story (in my opinion) is that of Samuel Ball. He was a former slave that moved to Nova Scotia and got a small plot of land to flee the US and slavery. He went from being a cabbage farmer to buying most of the island. He died a wealthy man and there is no good explanation for his good fortunes besides......that the found a small amount of buried treasure buried on his plot of land while farming. The theory is that he found a trunk full of treasure buried by pirates to hide it on the island and used that money to buy more land and gain fortune. It is a great story about a former slave that fortune smiled upon. He would be a good person to do a video about.

[@wildfirev]

I love how out of date the information about what has been found on the island is. It's at least 3 years old. The evidence of significant human habitation far older than what was previously thought makes the show rather interesting to me.

[@robincowley5823]

I love Simon when he can get his teeth into a mystery in a cold read. It's more for the Casual Criminalist but I'd love to see what he makes of the Annecy shootings.

[@ARISUinW0NDERLAND]

He also threatened to dig his teeth into it literally. 😆

[@justicar5]

Templars in Canada wouldn't have been 'ahead of the game' the Vinland settlement at L'Anse Aux Meadows, in Newfoundland is from around 1000 CE, and the Greenland Viking settlers didn't die out until the 15th Century, so while not exactly common knowledge, Europeans did know about Canada, or at least some of it's coast, the Church being among them, as the Greenlanders had a Bishop, at least until the 14h century. Still not Templar treasure ofc, but I found that interesting at least.

[@sandhilltucker]

Finally gets down there and there's a chest with a note saying. Har har har. Besides any seafaring people back then would most likely use fathoms as a source of downward measurement.

[@franhenderson9176]

Sorry but it is real history of eastern Canada. Ya we are awesome cool and understated. I mean family of the original diggers have actual jewelry from the 14th century. Ya not sure you want to eat paper. Sad

[@matthewatwood8641]

When I was a kid, I was sure there was pirate treasure buried somewhere in any beach I found myself on. I mean, how could there not be, right?

[@grahamgaming3]

I was playing poker with one of the captains from deadliest catch here in eureka California he was a little drunk and pops off with you know how you get rich crab fishing. You let a t.v. crew on your boat and get paid by them. True story

[@RAS_Squints]

I love how Simon is so excited about this topic, then further down he talks about how it is a History channel show, he looks so disinterested 🤣

[@SpencerGD]

The History Channel: the best source of inaccurate historical information... allegedly.

[@magnemoe1]

I read about this in an kid book close to 40 years ago. And this does not make sense as your classic buried treasure, who is an real thing, even today criminals might do it. But you make an 1-3 feet deep hole put an chest or box in it and fill inn 6 foot is extreme. The exact location is the combination lock key here. Making it an huge mining project will just make the location well known as you need lots of people know the location.

[@coyote16able]

@@magnemoe1 yes that which is why so many people over time find it so interesting cause as the Laginas have found well I personally and I think other fans of the show also don't really care about the treasure anymore then wanting to know what the heck happened on the island.

[@FallingSloths]

Well they sure showed us! This podcast totally missed it, but the last 3 weeks they have been pulling little bits of Spanish Tumbaga gold out of the Money Pit, with water analysis showing there should still be a ton of gold and silver in hole. The gold was found stuck to multiple metal objects pulled from a horizontal tunnel 90 feet underground, and the wood from the tunnel has been sampled twice, each returning the date range of ~1500-1650, which would be over 100 years before searching started in the 1790s. For all the doubt Simon had over this being a History Channel show, little did he know that they have already confirmed the existence of Spanish gold 90 feet underground on Oak Island. Rough to have your podcast so woefully outdated the second it drops haha XD

[@KnarBurger]

@@FallingSloths imagine a show that is made to get viewers and has strung people along for years faking something to keep stringing them along. Oh wait…

[@adudecalledtony3731]

All men reacted the same way when he explained that the hole was 30ft deep. That is a childhood dream most never get to realize. Forget the treasure, 30ft sand hole is a massive W

[@pretzelhunt]

or a massive O

[@daleleslie1049]

Why a sand hole, it's normal earth in Money Pit area,...lol, such a massive job to work in sand...

[@adudecalledtony3731]

@@daleleslie1049 I don’t think the material the hole is dug in much changes my comment

[@patthesoundguy]

Living here in Nova Scotia my father has always been a big fan of the Oak Island mystery, there were always books about it around the house. Very interesting stuff

[@johnlavers3970]

that coast has had european visitors since at least 1300. the basques were are port aux basque in 3325, and red bay labrador in 1375 wintering over for fish dryingand whaling respectively. this coast is the only one nearby with limestone. people roasted limestone to make lime for ship repair. there was also water wood and quality clay on the island. and IT'S AN ISLAND, nice place to stop to avoid native raids. limestone also has sink holes. roasting limestone could easily fall into a sink hole and you get wood way down a hole!!! i have yet to see a better explanation. sailors stopping for water, making lime, using clay and using wood and local tar and tree pitch all good for ship repair . and the bay is fairly protected from storms. lots of europeans used that coast from pirates, to traders, basque, portuguese, french english and even norse. so you find an few old lime roasting pits that have fallen into sink holes and there is block and tackle lots of wood down the hole.

[@hookybrickshooky9529]

Lovely. Simon just destroyed another story of my childhood. Thank you Simon, I will definitely smash that like button or something else on my way out. ;)

[@richb2229]

It’s become somewhat a obsession amongst the buried treasure mystery group. However there is some significant evidence for occupation of the island and the construction of the pit during the correct time period. There are also old mines that go back to that time on the island so it’s not inconceivable that a “treasure” was put there.

[@benjie128]

If you havent heard of simon.... you live under a rock. If you like simon, go enjoy his other 5,672 channels.

[@Skiers_Snowboarders_Midwest]

Except for if you drill a well on Oak Island, you hit fresh water. Not salt water. They've already confirmed the flood tunnels from Smith's Cove

[@katymaloney]

My theory: Oak Island was a logging or boat building station for acadians. The european made slipways and portuary installations recently found at Smith's Cove (roman numerals were found on the logs), the manmade swamp (acadians used swamps to grow hay for animals)... plus Oak Island is relatively close to the mouth of Gold River, where logs could be brought from further logging operations inland... They found a large dock towards the river, where barges could've been bringing logs. And roads with ox shoes (people can't carry big logs, they need animals to do that... and again, swamps to feed them). Then you have blue clay and waterproofing materials (pine tar and all).... all pretty useful shit when everyone travels by boat!!! Coconut fibers lining a bunch of "french drains" bringing water to a pit... I think the "Money Pit" is a well, if anything at all. If they were indeed building or ever just repairing ships there, they'd need water, and going to the shore everytime would've been annoying. Not to mention that Lunenberg is RIGHT around the corner, formerly called Mirligouèche, and it was a known place where Nicolas Denys had logging operations, and where french settlers and native people lived... Acadians were ALL AROUND this area, all along the coast... it literally makes ZERO sense that english or scottish pirates would bury something on an island surrounded by their enemies...! The portuguese hypothesis would push the timeline back and perhaps makes a LITTLE more sense... but again, the portuguese link is very much tenuous... No real archeology to support it. Everything they found that was clearly European in origin was either later english or early french...

[@charwest5892]

There are at least 6 different established cultures having inhabited the area. French, English, Spanish, Portugese, Danish, Romans. Not to mention the native inhabitants and old world viking explorations. If this is indeed the case, if there were treasure it seems that just by volume of people crossing paths with the island it would have been found. Although the case for it being a stowaway camp is not implausible.

[@katymaloney]

@@charwest5892 I've always been interested in the early acadians, since my female line descends from them and there are few accounts of how they got here.. It was likely smaller ships and fishing vessels taking these original settler families that came during the De La Tour and De Razilly periods, before the infighting between french factions when De Razilly died in 1635. The french crown was disinterested in the colonies, leaving the funding of colonizing operations to companies like the Razily-Condonnier and Cents-Associés companies... they were busy fighting England and Spain back home, and securing their own affairs. This Nicolas Denys character is KNOWN to have been in the wood business, and De Razilly was a sea commander, close to the Duke of Richelieu, who was embroiled in all kinds of high power shenanigans in the Old Country. And YET when he asked for one ship to help bring people and builders, he was denied by the Crown, told to finance it himself. I read the letter, it's online somewhere... and Denys wrote a whole account of his time in Acadia when he went back to France decades later, describing the ENTIRE coastline and the settlements, disputes, peoples living there, down to the animals he encountered, the number of catch on a sea lion hunting expedition, and of course... what kinds of trees one could find (and exploit). It's just one man's account, but I read the whole thing (in old french, it was fun!), and it seems pretty obvious to me that if ANY foreign builders had camp there, on a tiny ass island in a frequented bay area, the French would've known... They were stealing each other's settlements and pirating a whole bunch... some had allied with local Mi'qmaq tribes... essentially became metis and turned against the french AND the english alike, stealing boats when they anchored close to their shores. That too is documented, people from Mirligoueche being trialed in Boston for piratry. That's in the 1700s I believe, I'd have to double check... a bit later but still. There was PLENTY of europeans around that could've used an island with lots of oak and protection from incoming weather, being deep within a bay. It's good shelter for ships... and a good place to repair them, should anything happen during a storm.

[@ImCarolB]

I've watched several episodes of this show and it's interesting until some fringey character shows up expounding on his theories of Arthurian legends and Templar treasures. Used to be it was enough that some pirate dumped off his loot to pick up later.

[@kcollier2192]

If treasure were ever found it would be more anticlimactic than when Geraldo opened Al Capone's vault.

[@leeneufeld4140]

Whatever happens with the treasure, the fact that this place exists and the weirdness that surrounds it, is fascinating stuff.

[@verumterrae3322]

Simon, you missed on this one a bit. While I would have essentially agreed with you a few years ago, recent years have seen some pretty significant discoveries. If we can assume the items were genuinely found as depicted by the show it has become clear something major occurred on the island and it was possibly as long as 500 to 600 years ago. I’m skeptical that anything exists in the money pit and of course the curse is nonsense but something unknown did happen there. You did not discuss the most important items found and the estimated ages of said items based on real science (again assuming the show is honest about the testing).

[@PsychoMike21000]

I agree, the big question is if the show is honest about thr testing and the discoveries. If it is, it's hard to dispute something significant took place. I'm always wondering 8n the back of my mind whether finds are planted by producers or test results are cooked.

[@abc-coleaks-info3180]

One indisputable fact when digging precious metals/stones that may apply here: there are two ways to “strike it rich” do the mining (of course) or mine the miners. Historically more people made their fortune, however fleeting by selling equipment, supplies, worthless claims, salted claims, gimmicky equipment than they ever did digging a hole. Ad revenue will keep this show going when nothing else could.

[@shellycoffey6436]

I've actually watched some of the seasons. Not because I thought it was real beyond being a kind of reality fiction tv. They did find more on the show (nothing close to even a pound of gold), one item you didn't mention was a cross, European in origin, that they spent the better part of a season dating and tracing the story of. They flew to Europe and walked through sites historically related to the cross. They also spent crazy time tracing tangents. I mean these tangents would make your brain blaze side trips look like a few extra words lol. The point of the swamp pointed to Europe where the cross was from kinda tangents (unsure of exact markers used, I didn't care enough, but they did make connections like that).

[@sookendestroy1]

Honestly its likely either some later persons family heirloom or a personal pendant of some random sailor that was on the island

[@CrudzMcKenzie]

@@sookendestroy1 That's quite likely. The cross was found on the beach by Smith's Cove. They recently found the remains of a rather large wharf just off the shore in that area. It easily could have been dropped by someone while boarding a ship or working the dock.

[@FallingSloths]

So i have two interesting things to contribute here! First off, it is worth saying that these last 3 episodes have shown them pulling little bits of actual Spanish tumbaga gold from the Money Pit. They are small flakes indeed, but they were pulled off of metal objects found in a horizontal tunnel 90 feet down, and the high-copper alloy of the gold is pretty definitively the same found in Conquistador loot. Further water tests of the holes showed so much dissolved gold and silver in the water that there should be a sizable amount more. Two pieces of wood from different parts of the tunnel each independently dated between ~1500 and 1650, over 100 years before any searching started. This matches the era of the big uncharted stone warf they found in the swamp last year. So as much as i never thought I would say it, they have basically confirmed that there is indeed some pre-searcher structure 90 feet under Oak Island with an unexplainable amount of Spanish gold flakes in it. So that's my cool first bit!...

[@FallingSloths]

Second thing i have to add is about the cross. The cross would almost certainly be just like a sailor's trinket if it weren't for the fact that another ornate lead object was found on the island a year later, and the origin of the lead dated to the exact same medieval lead quarry, which is weird. HOWEVER, because they are surface finds, it is highly unlikely they have anything to do with the Money Pit itself. And this is where I can add some insight as to why they talk so much about that Cross, despite it not likely meaning much: The Curse of Oak Island is produced by a company called Prometheus Entertainment, and let's just say they have some... questionable motives. People can throws accusations of racism around a lot, but if we look at all of their shows for context: -"Ancient Aliens": we all know this show, we know it has no problem rewriting other cultures to fit narratives, and we know that the whole "Chariot of the Gods" thing the show is based on was written by an ethnic German who grew up during the third reich and promoted Nazi mysticism. You may not know that it gets worse, like a whole episode where Holocaust-denier David Iche basically sites the Protocols to claim Jewish people are secretly supporting reptiloids, no joke. -The Mystery of Skinwalker Ranch: if that last one seems iffy to you, try this one. The entirety of season 2 makes the claim that Jewish people can chant open portals to other dimensions of powerful, evil beings. They go as far as to claim they can reliably trigger said powerful forces to appear by playing recordings of a Qabalah Rabbi chanting. I kid you not, watch it yourself, totally wild. It is so shocking you might miss the way they treat all Native American cultures as interchangable. -America's Book of Secrets: this one is all conspiracy theories. Basically they take proven conspiracies (like Iran-Contra and Operation Condor) and likely conspiracies/conspiracies with missing pieces (the FBI's interest in MLK, the plot to kill Lincoln, the JFK assassination, etc), and then they say them in like the same breath as absolutely bizarre conspiracies that usually involve some anti-Semitic implication, giving the impression of equal likelihood. SO all that being said -- when that same production company find a single artifact that they can use to repeatedly discuss "Did the Knights Templar on crusade really find objects of great [Jewish] religious power???"... Well, i would sure love to give the show the benefit of the doubt, but they kind of have a disturbing track record of making shows that pray on the exact same "Mythic Past" recruitment tactic that we see in modern Neo-Nazis...

[@woody4077]

i just "love" (#sarcasm) how katy neglected to mention the water testing which HAS proven that there is gold and silver on the island

[@sookendestroy1]

I mean when you do a groundwater well test theres gold, silver and other metals in basically all water

[@woody4077]

@@sookendestroy1 true but NOT in the concentrations that had been found on the island

[@Jkev24]

I always thought pirates buried treasure to avoid being caught carrying plundered booty when going into Port. It essentially was used to store it away safely so they could reclaim it again once there was less heat on them. I think they also maybe buried it if they ran into a situation where making it back alive was questionable (really damaged ship, low rations, or injured/ill) and not making it back meant losing the treasure to the sea. Obviously this wasn't a widespread practice as Hollywood and folklore would have you believe, but when a pirate needed to stash their plunder they couldn't exactly go to a bank, so burying it or hiding it was their best option. And yes, this was a backup option to selling it and not something they did for fun. It was likely a last resort that was taken because there was no way to safely get it back to sell.

[@benthomason3307]

Good guesses, but the problem is that we _know for a fact_ that only the one particular pirate ever actually buried his treasure. The rest did, indeed, spend it immediately.

[@melissaharris3389]

@@benthomason3307 I blame Robert Louis Stevenson for the prevalent belief that pirates routinely buried treasure.

[@kenabi]

one of the oldest trolls in the world, still serving its purpose.

[@mrnobody2873]

The Buried "ship" is another area of the island in a triangular shaped swamp that appears to have been artificially created. Geophysical scans show a shape consistent in length and height of a Spanish Galleon buried on it's side. The show is very drawn out with lots of filler of clips of previous episodes, and a narrator that breaks in to stretch miniscule finds into "Could this really be a piece of (some unbelievable crap )?" Having said that , they have managed to attract government attention and have been forced to slow down the dig on several occasions so that archeologists could do proper excavations. The Brother's have leaned heavily into high tech geophysical surveys including GPR, Lidar, a couple seismic surveys involving detonating hundreds of explosive charges at once, water sample analysis of all holes dug and have found elevated levels of silver and Gold in some of them. They uncovered an ancient stonework wharf and road running under the swamp that runs toward the money pit area. Even if there is no treasure, there is an ancient puzzle there with some areas showing occupation originating in Europe as far back as 600AD.

[@robswystun2766]

Simon should eat the script when he gets to to a combined 10 milliion subscribers across all his channels.

[@drakebenelli2]

The last episode showed them finding two pieces of metal that had gold embedded in it. After analyzing the the pieces of gold it was determined that it had copper and silver mixed in it. This indicates that the gold pieces originated from South America as they are the only ones to mix copper and silver in that exact amount with gold.

[@worer850]

Simon making himself look very foolish by leaving large discoveries out.

[@DavidKenny64]

@@worer850 Not to mention that he proves that he has never even watched any episodes of the show, that he rails on and on against, by not even being able to pronounce the Lagina's name correctly. It sounded plausible to me that he likely plagiarized a child's school report on the subject. I jest, of course, but this was a poorly researched and written video. IMHO

[@worer850]

@@DavidKenny64 I've been aware of the island since middle school. I'm almost 50 now. I've went to the island. Flew there on my air miles, had a tour booked . Then the hurricane hit..I was there the day before and the day after .that was the episode the swamp flooded. I met 2 people from the show... following year. Booked a tour..ready to fly! rock and roll. Global pandemic. . I'm scared to book another tour incase of a bloody Comet impact lol.

[@SgtJoeSmith]

@@DavidKenny64 he even said he never heard of it and was reading script for 1st time I thought

[@troygach9228]

@@SgtJoeSmith should you not do home work on a topic that you are doing a video on?? LOL hmmmm like yes you should have all home work done & not just filming as you go lol even if the history channel does that. Oh wait he bash them to & yet he doing the same thing lol

[@davidgallion3167]

There have been some legitimately interesting archeological discoveries from recent efforts on Oak Island. Whatever happens, in the end they may have written new pages into the history of the island that might otherwise have been lost.

[@doelbaughman1924]

Not 'may'. They have. They have definitely solidified the idea that significant works were done on the island for some reason. Why the hell would you create a swamp? They have made an extremely strong case for pre-1492 activity.

[@shinjisan2015]

@@doelbaughman1924 in an archeological sense it is becoming far more interesting. Possible Viking dry-dock and everything...

[@--enyo--]

Or more likely they Schliemanned their way down and totally destroyed anything we could have potentially studied.

[@isoufo]

The metal detector guy on that show is pretty cool, and he finds some interesting stuff.

[@sammi3004]

Totally agree 👍

[@q1s2e3w]

simon is such a buzzkill whenever anything potential supernatural is involved lol. like you don’t have to believe in it but still!

[@zoemacpherson2701]

Honestly, I find the most fascinating aspects of the show that they have brought up are the other bits and pieces they have seen. The fragments of archaeology that they have found over the years, such as the lead cross or recently the pottery they found from the Mi'kmaq people. I find that these discoveries are just as much part of the modern-day story to the dig as the dig for the treasure in itself.

[@benjistonehenji9202]

bozo

[@ransakreject5221]

This legend has been in papers since 1890. Many drunk teens have buried all kinds of shit there for over a century

[@Oilburnerful]

My father in law is a die hard fan of that show. Never misses an episode. It's so great to hear someone saying out loud what I am screaming in my head every week as we are forced to sit through it. Thank you facts boy!

[@juliacook5074]

The Curse of Oak Island is a very entertaining show, especially if you have a fondness for archeological mysteries (which I do).

[@codystaples178]

Its more entertaining when your familiar with the area. All them rich greedy idiots pouring there money into a crap island no sane person would want.

[@Manofvideos292]

Anyone ever think that Simon only has one channel and we are seeing alternate universes where he also runs one channel resulting in the several Simons on our KZbin? Also, anyone else smoking weed while watching?

[@ninjaswordtothehead]

Not as good as yours apparently.

[@ssfbob456]

Telling everyone on my deathbed that I was a secret pirate and buried millions in treasure 30ft deep in a place that's absurdly hard to dig in is definitely something I'd do. That guy died as a truly epic troll.

[@crw4372]

Okay, here it is: The Templars passed their treasure over to the pre-Freemasons who, after combining with the Free-premasons needed to find a place to hide it and the Francis Bacon 'I am Shakespeare' docs they'd accumulated. So they ship it to what would become Canada, but the ship was attacked by Portuguese pirates who decided to beach on Oak Island after aliens disabled their ship accidentally. The aliens were sorry about the accident and so helped them bury it and fix their ship. But a couple of the Freemasons had survived and followed them to the island where they saw the stuff buried too deep to reach and decided to make another hole and spread some false clues to keep anybody else from coming back to get it. And then they died, so the real placement position is now lost, barring a séance or contact with the aliens again.

[@happybrainybren]

Like all your info is incorrect was this topic not researched by your script writer did they not even bother to watch the shows? for example you claim that you dont know the spelling of mcguiness its unclear, how is that when his direct descendants who bear his name have been on the show and you claim nolans cross was not known to be a cross until aerial footage but Fred Nolan was a professional surveyor.

[@ShapeshiftedCow]

Do you trust everything you see on TV?

[@happybrainybren]

​@@ShapeshiftedCow No but it would appear that you believe factually incorrect youtube videos with zero research done into them.

[@ShapeshiftedCow]

@@happybrainybren believe it or not I didn’t have to rely on this video to tell me the show and its narratives are chock full of wildly speculative BS, watching the show myself made that abundantly clear. But hey, those two complaints of yours sure are gaping holes in this video’s assessment. Totally reasonable justification to dismiss any and all criticism

[@happybrainybren]

@@ShapeshiftedCow I think if you are going to debunk something atleast do the proper research

[@adam.r.parsons]

This is fast becoming my favourite channel in the Whistleverse! 👍

[@borisjohnsonslostcomb7457]

Ha ha....Whistlerverse

[@rrg991981]

It’s pronounced “La Geena”

[@TexasTrosper]

I can’t help from wondering how they could have ever dug a very deep hole without it always flooding.

[@ricklagina91]

They knew more about going deep digging easily without causing flood. I appreciate your effort and love towards the show keep watching 😊

[@robames1293]

@@ricklagina91 "They knew more about going deep digging easily without causing flood"ing. "They" were magic and did not have to conform to reality.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

With all the claims of what is down there, I'd like to throw more stuff into the hole: The graves of Jesus and Genghis Khan, the Amber Room, the landing site of Noah's Ark and the Ark itself, a translation of the voynich manuscript, the original english crown jewels, the florentine diamond, the Honjo Masamune and the money and identity of D. B. Cooper.

[@everythingisinfinite4602]

There is actually a semi-credible theory you missed not necessarily involving treasure but would be cool for historical reasons. It suggests that the current swamp at one point to connected both sides of the ocean essentially creating two smaller Islands in which boats would dock in between and considering they found pieces of a ship it may actually have some Credence and it's quite interesting.

[@mikeborsum8881]

and the Pine tar kilns found that would have been used to make pitch for waterproofing. Someone was fixing ships there before people lived in the area. Doesnt mean buried treasure, but its still historically significant.

[@dtaylor10chuckufarle]

Exactly! Simon can be such a wet blanket.

[@lisaseverance6785]

And the First Nation pottery pieces that have been found prove that people were there before anything recorded. They had to stop digging in those areas to allow proper archeological digs. That and the ox shoes point to some kind of activity on the island, which I find almost more interesting than an actual treasure.

[@The_SCPFoundation]

My man Simon has about 40 KZbin channels lol. And everyone of them are good. No matter what faze I'm in, I'll find Simon hosting a channel for the subject lol. Now I'm just waiting for him to start narrating creepypastas.

[@mattday2656]

I just assume Irving keeps the treasure legend going to rent heavy equipment to dumb rich guys

[@bekindandrewind1422]

While myself and most of the internet loves you Simon.. Now I want some kind of major treasure found just to be able to watch you eat a script...

[@MrSloppySauasage]

As much as i like Simon it is slightly irritating that someone who hasn’t even heard much about the island other than cold reading a script seems to think he can laugh and insult the people who have lost their lives searching there or those who still do or those who watch the show. This video left out many of the archeological finds for some reason, almost as if they wanted to discredit it more than needed. They’ve found plenty of interesting things and learned a lot about the history of the island (which is the best treasure imo) i’ve watched all the seasons because i like history, adventure and artefacts. I see nothing wrong with this despite the insults. It may not interest some and that’s fine. I don’t believe they will ever find treasure there in bulk but i love learning about the island’s history as i do many other places.🤷‍♂️

[@reginaldinoenchillada3513]

Yes! Oak island. Let me know when u find something, I'll watch the last episode. I've watched a lot of oak island episodes, they're all the same, Fascinating but inconclusive. I can see Simon as a metal detectorist. Edit: Wow, simon is going through all of the emotions of oak island watching. I love the part where oak island was 2 small islands and a ship was scuttled in between making the swamp and connecting the 2 into one island.

[@sparky6086]

Oak Island is merely the vestige of a salt producing opereration, where people used to take an area, where salt would concentrated naturally through evaporation and enhance it's efficiency by manmade means. This was how salt was produced in the old days, back when many salt mines were either tightly controlled by their owners or yet to be discovered. The Oak Island salt operation would have been abandoned a few hundred years ago and forgotten about, but since it's in a cold area, some of it's remnants remained long enough to inadvertently fool dreamers who came later.

[@CHEGTO]

@@sparky6086 your answer sounds like the most plausible also how many indigenous people or travelers have seen this land before pirates were even thought to have buried anything there

[@sparky6086]

@@CHEGTO Yes. Before flash freezing factory fishing vessels, like we have today, and in the several centuries long heyday of Grand Banks cod fishing, they needed salt to preserve the catch. I read about such Human enhanced salt marsh mechanisms to automatically concentrate salt water, where once the water evaporates, much more salt is left, than there otherwise would be, in Mark Kurlansky's book, "Salt". It's a great read. He makes what seems like a straight forward, mundane or boring subject, very interesting and brings to light it's importance. Kurlansky also wrote, "The Basque History of the World" which actually talks about Basque fisherman fishing The Grand Banks, as well as all things Basque. That's also a great read, although rather than a seemingly mundane subject, it's about a people and their culture, so is seemingly interesting anyway. Even Vikings set up sea salt producing operations in their day.

[@CHEGTO]

@@sparky6086 exactly the logical aspect is not buried treasure in the fantasy sense of pirates and swashbuckling privateers but it was indigenous in construction, use , and eventually it was sealed there where multiple people who lived on this land for years so there is definitely treasure to be found but I am in the belief that it is not what they think . But I would love to be wrong lol

[@sparky6086]

It likely wan't indigenous. It was probably a vestige of the huge 15th & 16th century Grand Banks European cod fishing industry. They needed salt to preserve the cod. ...There is some speculation, that Basque fisherman may have even fished this area, before Colombus' voyage. Basques back then, had no written records, so who knows?

[@mattday2656]

I always got a kick out of the stories about it as a kid, my parents told me about it, as they both grew up on either side of Nova Scotia

[@FallingSloths]

Oof, this was outdated as soon as it released. In the last 3 weeks the show has started pulling up little bits of tumbaga gold from the Money Pit, about 90 feet down. It isn't much right now, little fragments of gold clinging to metal objects. But it is undoubtedly Spanish gold 90 feet down a hole in Nova Scotia with no explanation. And water tests in only that area show significantly elevated levels of dissolved gold and silver that cannot be explained by local sediment, indicating a literal truckload left to find down there. The wood taken from this area and depth is consistently dating ~1500-1650, which fits the era of the big stone warf they found in the swamp. Shame this episode didn't wait like a month so the new stuff could be in there. I was as skeptical as anyone that anything was down there (I was watching because I thought it was cool when they would find old searcher digs from like 150 years ago). BUT now that they are pulling definitive tumbaga gold and pieces of wood ~200 years older than any searching from 90 feet down, it is undeniable that SOMETHING very strange is down there for real.

[@sclarin2]

No you were not as skeptical as anyone...

[@CaelanAegana]

There's also a book, The Curse of Oak Island, written by Randall Sullivan (who's also an editor at Rolling Stone). The author was in an episode or 2 of the show as he was there doing research for the book. I didn't even know about the book until I watching the show and had to do a double-take. Even though I was alone, I pointed at the screen like an idiot and shouted "It's Randy!" Long story short, I've now read his entire back catalog and I have to resist the temptation to interview him at our family holiday parties....

[@templarwhiskey8167]

140 episodes......over digging a hole.......damn. I am speechless about TV viewership....🤐