Is This Geometric Structure The Theory Of Everything? | Answers With Joe

For 100 years, scientists have been searching for the "Theory of Everything", the elusive link between the physics of Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity. A team of researchers believe they may have the key, and it all lies in a geometrical design.
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Garrett Lisi's work in particle physics led him to find patterns in the geometry that led him to discover an 8-dimensional crystalline structure called the E8 Lie Group. He used this to predict the existence of particles that he believes account for the force of gravity.
Klee Irwin and the Quantum Gravity Research team have taken this and constructed a theory about the nature of reality itself all the way down to the plank length, where reality breaks down into pixellated tetrahedrons that through emergence theory has created a universal consciousness.
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[@kevingamache1512]

"The universe is not only stranger than we think. It is stranger than we CAN think." Heisenberg

[@samuelwilliams4155]

You sure that ain't Terence McKenna

[@kevingamache1512]

Samuel Williams nope Heisenberg for sure

[@thomasbowe6912]

J. B. S. Haldane

[@kevingamache1512]

THOMAS BOWE While Haldane was extraordinary It was Heisenberg who made the above statement.

[@kevingamache1512]

Haldane's statement was similar with different wording. There being those who believe he took from Heisenberg. None the less there are those who believe the opposite.

[@BogeyCDogRosey]

“Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed into a slow vibration and we are all of one consciousness that’s sharing itself subjectively. There’s no such thing as death, life is only a dream and we’re the imaginations of ourselves. Here is Tom with the weather” Bill Hicks

[@Daan7000]

Tool - Third Eye

[@sovereignpsyche7968]

My absolute favorite MJK song; very rich song for tripping as well, especially while playfully knocking around all these ideas in your head

[@keirfarnum6811]

Raymond Blanton You know, it’s funny. When I used to watch movies in which the acid tripping dude was shown saying, “wow, that’s cosmic!”, instead of assuming the dude tripping was an idiot, I always figured the dude was figuring out the secrets of the universe and was probably a physicist. Can’t judge a book by it’s cover.

[@TrollBotY]

Matt B MJK only wrote the lyrics the other 75% of the song is probably better then the lyrics

[@danielmcnamar]

That's string theory...

[@MrSauceman09]

"required us to put on some different lenses" Joe Rogan: Have you ever tried DMT?

[@nickmagrick7702]

I was waiting for Rogan to jump out at any moment in this video and ask if he'd tried DMT.

[@troillandford7679]

We're living in strange times

[@StevenLeMieux]

Lol and yes and was it seen also yes

[@recovery116]

So Jim Carrey was right.. "We're all just a bunch of dancing tetrohedrons."

[@thadesweatt303]

Yeah he needs to explain himself in a more detailed manner probably lol, maybe in a less whimsical way. I mean you might say its Jim Carey its gonna be a whimsical description. But theres no me theres no you lol.

[@thisjustseemsorchestrated3033]

@@thadesweatt303 it's nearly impossible to try to describe in words when you physically and consciously experience something that words haven't been invented for yet.

[@robertpierpont2262]

@@thisjustseemsorchestrated3033 exactly.. its like doing DMT to a T.. there are no words that can actually describe it!

[@excelsior999]

And so it has come to this. I can't even conceive of any reason to quote Jim Carrey about ANYTHING. What's next? Quoting Kathy Griffin on The Meaning of Life?

[@lucifer.Morningstar369]

@@excelsior999 jim is right tho. He's not the same goofy actor he's had spiritual change, probably took alot of mushrooms

[@sareinhart]

In the UK, they drive on the left side of the road. In PA, we drive on what's left of the road.

[@graftongodofmemes]

Where or what is "pa", besides your dad

[@sareinhart]

@@graftongodofmemes PA = Abbreviation for Pennsylvania.

[@Ernthir]

But the joke was pretty funny though

[@davidklein1667]

I grew up in Pittsburgh folks...this man speak deep truth!!

[@MRKetter81]

And you drive like maniacs on any road in any other state

[@TrojansFirst]

I saw that exact geometric structure on my last psilocybin mushroom trip.

[@ianmeade7441]

I mean it's just a model to help demonstrate something we could never authentically comprehend. I've seen similar stuff as well.

[@sebfarrell2628]

@¡i¡Got Crabz I always see this on my dmt trips

[@nakanoyuko]

As a regular psychedelic user, how the fuck do you remember an exact geometric shape (edit-of that detail) when back to sober, I call bullshit

[@Quandaledillywingle]

Nakano Yuko Jr you can have flashbacks of the trip where you can clearly remember that lil snippet of memory

[@DjOzKid]

Nakano Yuko Jr some have said to draw what they saw, I can’t even find the words to try to explain what I saw it is like a fleeting memory like a dream but beautiful

[@thedeviousduck8027]

"at the planck length scale reality breaks down into 3d pixels..." the universe is a voxel based game?

[@jesselapides4390]

Yes

[@loganwolv3393]

I mean that means that...the universe is technically not flat at all.Damn i really have to look forword to this theory.

[@AlvaroALorite]

Is reality Minecraft 2?

[@loganwolv3393]

@@xopha Yeah,in the meantime i've understood what it actually means.Like if you fire 2 parrarel objects in empty space,in a flat universe they would never meet or go away from each other.It emplies more things like that i assume.Also suprised my old comments get replied lol.

[@miraj101]

the information of matter passes through that 3d pixelated space as the information of the matter passes through that grid the pixels switch their superposition and go in and out of existence.

[@the_returned]

7:40 - this is why Im subbed to Joe... “I guess when you put out a video 52 times a year, eventually you’re going to eat one”

[@peesweezy4553]

Joe: This is a square Me: whoa whoa, hold on there egg head

[@Sixty-Nine1987]

I laughed hard at this.. Well played..

[@staff97]

aha ok norm

[@joeboccuzzi675]

The fact that there's holes in this 8d structure reminds me of Mendeleev creating the periodic table, how there were many holes and gaps that represented elements we now know and weren't discovered at the time. He was so sure of his organization that when someone claimed they discovered a new element, Mendeleev said they were wrong, and he could prove them wrong with his model of the periodic table, and his version turned out to be correct. This story sounds like this 8d structure, Lisi created a model that organizes every particle perfectly based on its properties, and there are holes where particles could exist but we haven't discovered them yet. Like Joe said, if we find one of these missing particles, it would support this model is right. I think this may be what he was getting at, but I just wanted to say it anyway.

[@purplefire2834]

I was thinking the same thing, I wonder if we'll get to see stuff like that with this.

[@stuartabel5710]

Exactly what i was thinking about Mendeleev. spaces for our exploration and understanding to fill in. Maybe it will be there because consciously we thought that it might. The universe is stranger than we can think. Buid it and they will come ;)

[@incognitotamizhan9679]

@daniel letterman maybe not putside our universe, but instead it needs to observed in a certain way in order to be found, like the discovery of infrared

[@jesselapides4390]

That is a good analogy

[@nataliaturner4845]

@daniel letterman i totally love that idea, thanks for sharing :)

[@djog7264]

Wait so Plato's theory that everything was made up of tiny triangles is correct. Just 3d triangles

[@Cheebaprint]

Unreal engine 5, simulation confirmed

[@dracomenda2]

the fact that the golden ratio is part of this theory should imply that yes, Plato was correct

[@thegreywanderer8427]

And Plato would not have had access to complex simulations and tech, but he did have access to math and DMT.

[@nehgunlienkipgen5296]

@@thegreywanderer8427 more like acid? Kukeon was apparently ergot.

[@drednaught608]

@@Cheebaprint Reality be running on Unreal Engine 42. Can't wait for the new update.

[@recoverytips6541]

When I took 5-MEO DMT I saw that shape. Only on the first time though. The rest of my attempts to see it ended up with either me throwing up or dancing with an alien somewhere near the 7th dimension. Rubber Johnny I believe his name was.

[@katzenjamma]

@Ben Ghazi Infinite. Realities. .........?

[@ryaneberlin6607]

Ahh good ol' Rubber Johnny! It's been a while

[@SuperLake16]

This is why I watch your channel. You’re not afraid to say, I don’t know! Keep up the hard work, doesn’t go unnoticed!!

[@yeecksd9744]

If someone says they know they are lying lol

[@myriamlopezdeharo6735]

Best comment I've ever seen

[@ViraL_FootprinT.ex.e]

Hell yeah.

[@pwghost]

Exactly

[@saracen2633]

I came across Emergence Theory a couple years ago. I still can't grasp everything in it, and I've watched every video and read every thesis and article 3 or 4 times. It's an incredibly complex and bonkers theory. But E8 is so refined, and the bits I do fully understand mesh so well together that it has some serious potential merit in science. The fact that it's testable too makes it a massive contender. This is good enough for me.

[@mickmccrory8534]

Heisenberg & Schrodinger got pulled over for speeding. The cop asked Heisenberg ... "Do you know how fast you were going"? Heisenberg replied.. "No, but I know where I am." The cop said "You were going 70 mph" Heisenberg said "Great...Now we're lost." The cop asked Schrodinger.. "What's in the trunk.?" Schrodinger said.. "A cat" The cop opened the trunk & said.. "This cat's dead." Schrodinger said .. "Ya, he is now."

[@MrDoboz]

loool that's great

[@UFBMusic]

Why was Heisenberg's wife unsatisfied? Because when he had the time, he didn't have the energy, and when he had the position, he couldn't get the momentum.

[@MrDoboz]

@@UFBMusic you are killing me guys

[@UFBMusic]

@@MrDoboz Thank you, thank you! I'm here until the heat death of the Universe!

[@josiahjohnson9027]

Roflmao

[@thomasjackson2223]

Part of this presentation that intrigues me is the "step down" method of observing objects in higher dimensions as objects in lower dimensions. The tesseract example is a model for the same process to examine higher dimensions, and then the relationships are systematized geometrically. The fact that the eighth dimensional model predicts eighteen particles that are not known to exist is exciting. I'm reminded of Dirac.

[@EVH5150iii]

Our consciousness is the universes way of observing its “self,” in the way we use our brains to learn about our brains

[@TheTpointer]

exacly! And on top of that we experience our brain thinking as much as we experience a story teller telling a story! We just confuse ourselfes with the story teller! Look closer

[@dataexpunged6969]

Dayum

[@dreamleaf552]

That's a cool way of putting it

[@bu-realm3849]

LiquidCookie damn bro

[@damiengarcia8960]

Nice, as above so below.

[@stevfusion]

You lost me at two identical tetrahedrons of different sizes.

[@ProjectMorFX]

same size in 3D, different in 4D

[@brutalvocalcovers]

Same L O L

[@mjm3091]

it's like having two boxes that have one identical square wall - but in 3d one is longer than the other.

[@jonathankr]

@@mjm3091 eh? How are they identical then?

[@mjm3091]

@@jonathankr identical in 3d

[@markkim7348]

String theory and guitars are similar in that the strings vibrate and that I can’t understand how to make either of them work with my hands

[@PieterPatrick]

String theory also needs 12 dimensions... I personally consider this theory not very strong. And I know that we do not have a lot of other strong theory's as alternative.

[@tatjanagobold2810]

Did you study string theory on your own or did you learn it in a course?

[@markkim7348]

Oh na I study history and the maths always gets me Also not good with instruments in general

[@dennisklomp2361]

P. Patrick Tukkers kzbin.info/www/bejne/jXrchY16fdqUqLM I personally feel like this is a strong contender, mainly because I feel that for a bridge to work for 2 theories, it would have to make sence from both perspectives of theory. So at the least it would have to make some sence in the "normal" world.

[@rexxbailey2764]

UNIVERSE DIDNT CREATE LIFE ... LIFE CREATED THE UNIVERSE ... AVE FUN :)

[@domainofscience]

I looked into the 'Quantum Gravity Research', it is not scientific and definitely not on the same page as the others. They make statements that are very far outside of established physics/science. The giveaway was the golden ratio stuff which is a bit cringeworthy because it the kind of thing someone who doesn't know what they are talking about would talk about.

[@cpgrace1902]

Indeed

[@chadwellak]

Not to dampen the severe skepticism QGR deserves but if they're really going to attempt a "layman's" description of geometry that is incomprehensible without a deep understanding of the math involved, I really can't fault them for using something that the layman can connect with, and that likely does show up, as phi tends to do. I mean if for no other reason that to coax the reader to the end of the paragraph. Having said that, I'm not really sure why a layman's description would be helpful -- unless they're trying to encourage funding.

[@lisarenee3505]

Yeah, it sounded very much like the J.Z. Knight / Ramtha's School of Enlightenment brand of woo.

[@argenteus8314]

Eh, the golden ratio is misapplied a lot, but it's not a completely made up thing, there's some real and interesting mathematics there and it DOES have a tendency to show up in strange places as well as common ones (like pentagons)... It's a legitimately cool number without having to make up any magical properties. I wouldn't be especially surprised if the golden ratio turned out to be important in the mathematics of an eventual theory of everything, though that's not to say I'm predicting it WILL be either. Just that I wouldn't be surprised.

[@alecmisra4964]

GR does pop up in Feigenvalues.

[@adiechenagucia596]

this is one of the most interesting things i’ve ever heard of, thank you for sharing it. i’m gonna do a lot more research into it, but this video gave me a big reminder as to why i love physics and why im dedicating my life to this. simple, normal objects become magical when you realize the complexity of their mere existence, and i think this is a wonderful reminder of the importance of realizing that our inability to perceive or understand something does not make it impossible. we must go where the evidence takes us, and hopefully it will support this theory because it’s fascinating

[@Holloww98]

All the psychonaughts out here be like "ya I know all this stuff already"

[@jimmydiaz1502]

it makes more sense to me than string theory tbh, it also kinda a aligns with ancient occult philosophies which is not something to be considered in the realm of science but hey its still nice

[@tiaan7032]

Smoke DMT or take enough LSD & this theory, or at the very least the geometry, makes perfect sense!

[@mttlsa686]

@skOsH i see this pattern when i close my eyes when i go to sleep and the negative image of my eye in the background...

[@sosig8332]

Oi, I just had a real weird moment when I realised I had seen the tetrahedra creating reality when I trip donkey balls, it’s exactly what he said😂 it’s like all of reality falls out of the same space, but also out of itself, like almost out of a different dimension we cannot perceive, so just looks like it’s folding out of itself! The tripping starfish me and my mates call it lol! Fellow psychonaughts know what I mean here, west af but fucking awesome when science and realisations aligns with the stuff I’ve experienced or these drugs have allowed me and us to see. Fucking sounds crazy but it’s true..it’s unexplainable to people who haven’t experienced it

[@gotchathespider7850]

YES!

[@robertdix8515]

Thanks for sharing! That E8 lattice is in a sense the physics equivalent of chemistry's periodic table. After getting that chemists had a model and road map to search for the rest of the elements not yet discovered. The E8 lattice has the same potential for physicists to discover all the possible expressions of particles and energy possible. At this point, it has merit. All that can be done is see where it goes.

[@Tcarichards]

Robert Dix Best description yet. Great job!

[@ameremortal]

Great comparison.

[@omegalamda3145]

You are correct Robert Dix. Murray Gellman & Yuval Nee-man developed such a table. Quark table that predicted the Omega-1 particle in 1964. In 1969 along with Richard Feynman the Omega -1 was seen. Within the Altlas particle accelerator.

[@haqk4583]

“The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.” ― Nikola Tesla

[@thek2despot426]

I guess this is the inverse of "a broken clock is still right twice a day." You can't _study_ non-physical phenomenon. The instant you can, it just becomes nature.

[@DT-ob6ce]

This looks like a mandala that is common in Buddhist and Hindu art.

[@iconoptixx]

better yet it looks like visuals, prominent with most psychedelic drugs

[@Jinx-iw6zb]

Carl Jung did research on this and kinda made a groundwork for unifying materialism and spirituality.

[@MIHMediaInc]

It doesn't look like it. It is the sacred geometry done with dots n balls. The west like to discover things that weren't lost. Already known to the rest of the world 😅

[@odw32]

Garrett Lisi's work holds some merit, and despite his somewhat eccentric lifestyle he's surprisingly grounded about his theory being just "a speculative proposal". The scientific community has criticized parts of his work for small inconsistencies and incompleteness, but the theory overall is solidly founded in math and known laws & properties of particle physics. Klee Irwin on the other hand is just a pseudoscientific nutjob.

[@joescott]

I did really like how Lisi never states his idea was stone cold truth, just putting it out there.

[@brianfox771]

Anyone that claims the universe is conscious has an enormous burden of proof. Irwin's 3rd postulation is a logical quantum leap unsupported by evidence. It likely stems from a sophomoric misunderstanding of the QM definition of 'observer.' An observer need not be conscious.

[@GarrettLisi8]

Thanks!

[@Chuk256]

This! Agree with all the above.

[@mal2ksc]

This means Garrett Lisi has his own personal Time Cube Guy. L. Ron Hubbard did it for the money. Gene Ray truly believed his babble, best I can tell.

[@slippydouglas]

You might be surprised how many people finish their PhDs and then need to take a break for a few years. ~23 years of continual school _(K-12: 13 years, Bachelor's: 4 years, PhD: 6 years)_ will do that to you.

[@RazorM97]

college especially kills you emotionally

[@paavobergmann4920]

@@RazorM97 so does a PhD

[@humzahemani9701]

​@@Endrance450 You can go straight to PhD after undergrad depending on what country you're in and which field you want to go to, although you may not be as competitive of an applicant

[@DanielPolanco]

And a master's can do the same. Education can be brutal (especially on your wallet).

[@marccolten9801]

I hate people like that. Kind of like Michael Chriton who became a doctor only to write novels. They take space from people who might actually use that education only to waste it.

[@Larotian]

Love re-watching your past vids. Lots of great information! Awesome channel, much love Joe

[@gofastg80]

The part when you stop reading and say “ I need to stop this right now “ is priceless!!! Hahaha 🤣 🤣🤣. So smart Love your work !!! One of my favorite channels on KZbin. You my friend deserve a Diamond 💎 KZbin plaque !! Great work.

[@osricleondegrance9244]

Well, if you've dropped enough acid, everything ends up looking like that. Or legos.

[@LIQUIDSNAKEz28]

One stamp is enough for me to see it on every surface I look at. If I just stare at the same spot without moving my eyes, EVERYTHING in my visual field melts into the form of that E8 pattern.

[@garyfreeman7122]

A friend of mine tried smoking salvia divinorum once, and he said everything turned into legos. He didn't enjoy it, and it's a good job that the salvia trip only lasts a few minutes. I don't recommend trying salvia, but there are some funny youtube videos of people doing it

[@vandercecil9449]

DMT...

[@deluxeassortment]

Instructions unclear, dropped acid, now I have a hole in my floor

[@SomeSickDingus]

@@vandercecil9449 DMT indeed...

[@masterbaytier4809]

When you project any 8D structures into four dimensional time-space the shadows always cast a pattern that look like this: 42

[@joolsv4125]

Master Baytier how dare you...

[@ryry5249]

42? You've got some balls

[@LordLaavineshNithianandan]

What the fcuk you guys talkin bout ?

[@ryry5249]

@@LordLaavineshNithianandan jog on pal. Ain't got nout do with u

[@donaldpearson1581]

@@LordLaavineshNithianandan they making a joke from a movie called Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy in the movie there was some people searching for the answer to life the universe and everything and they built the gigantic computer is computed for 6 million years and then they returned to the computer computer gave the answer is 42

[@WilliamJohnson-pw3cc]

"And uuuhh Im gonna do the best I can" Relatable as hell with anything quantum physics xDDD

[@kwatt-engineer796]

Joe, I gotta give ya credit . You do a really great job of wrapping your head and helping us wrap our heads around almost any subject you decide to unpack for your viewers. Keep up the good work. Your videos are a real treat

[@justarandomname420]

Love seeing you jump off the deep end of quantum mechanics!

[@KatharineOsborne]

Love the woo woo alarm.

[@PeterParker-rj7wn]

His critic of researchers starting by anouncing their theory and then trying to prove it was kind of...'woo woo'. What are we supposed to do, use the quantum-enabled sensors of cryogenic robots living in total vacuum ?! We ponder as abstract entities dwelling in a medium that naturally fulfills obedience to the Laws of Physics... If human consciousness wasn't a logical outcome, we wouldn't exist, so artificial theories might well prevail !

[@PeterParker-rj7wn]

If anybody here doesn't believe we're an immaterial manifestation of intellectual authority, sorry about that DEAD MEAT !

[@KatharineOsborne]

Amin Zin can’t tell if sarcasm or not 🤔

[@KatharineOsborne]

Amin Zin interesting take. I interpreted it as possibly supporting simulation theory so maybe that shows our individual inherent biases more than anything.

[@bloodreaver6097]

This evokes the same sense of wonder I feel when seeing the missing parts of the periodic table... it seems everything exists in a spectrum of a sort; it's all about being able to understand what pieces of the spectrum we're studying enough to predict how the rest of it is like.

[@LordFindecano]

The E8 lattice is something I feel to be fairly common(or something very close to it) with closed eyed visuals on psilocybin trips. And probably one of the less weird visuals I’ve experienced

[@philipscoccer]

That's a pretty heavy dose?

[@LordFindecano]

@@philipscoccer I would say a mild to moderate one.

[@mildlifeisatrisk5727]

One thing that always gets me outta bed on Mondays : Joe's videos!

[@urinater]

I like the way you position yourself on screen using the Golden Ratio

[@joescott]

Totally on purpose.

[@sertaki]

Joe is the fundamental constant of the universe.

[@Fusspilzsammler1]

The only thing I understood was „t-shirts are available now“

[@ilkkarautio2449]

But are they really? 🤔

[@jackieolsa6860]

I just discovered your channel. Can’t get enough! Congratulations on your successes.

[@TheOneTonHammer]

I like pencils. That’s as technical as my brain can get now, after watching this video and losing so much blood through my ear holes.

[@Jake-sw3ss]

If you smoke DMT, you will see that.

[@micshaz]

something extremely close to 4:57 gradually overpowering your visual cortex depending on how far off into space you blast (also depending on substance used for the take-off) but generally only if you practice with closed eyes; a lot of people that trip allow themselves distractions (like phones or whatever other stupid shit) and generally that just leads to a psychological experience with mostly optical illusion style visuals.

[@samurus3]

Blatantly never done a big hit of DMT :P Xx

[@tommyencrapera1629]

It sounds extremely similar to dmt experiences. I can also almost see it if I rub my eyes really hard and fireworks start exploding on tio if each other. Once science is mature enough to explore the psychedelic realm then we will make some huge leaps in discovering the truth

[@lexort4204]

Jake I thought the same lol.

[@xandr13]

Sounds like boys bragging about their DMT trips here have never gone past the second drag.

[@sarahgregory9806]

Yeah, “so I’m not even gonna sponsor this”.....AWESOME open disclosure, Joe! SUBSCRIBED!!!

[@nathangoddard8115]

"Oh yeah, it's woo woo time".....and I spit my food out onto my laptop laughing!

[@princeedmunddukeofedinburg]

This video reminds me of L S D trip I took In the mid 70s Thanks Joe!

[@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958]

I was about to make the same comment until I saw you already did. Guess this proves it.

[@Ayeskint]

Lovin' them fractals... :)

[@adam3839]

Tapping into the consciousness of the universe is the most beautiful feeling anyone could feel. It feels very familiar like you been there before an infinite number of times. You are it and it is you. Very familiar feeling, home, if you will.

[@emo_galaxy9413]

So far this is one of my favorites! I love it when you approached the camera and tell us how your feeling. I completely agree and feel ya. You rock Joe Scott!

[@jcoghill2]

You go looking for a theory of everything and arrive at metaphysics. No problemo I was already there. This was an incredible video. Very funny!

[@charlesfrazier3441]

I may forget EVERYTHING I have ever heard or learned from you, but I'll never forget the double slit experiment. It tripped me out so much I can't unlearn that. Thank you for fun videos

[@adamfurlong4979]

3:40 *shows complex geometric design* "let me back up a bit... This is a square"

[@Harufloof]

science be like 8d structure visible in 3d lsd be like 8d structure visible in 4d

[@davecsaszarable]

This is exactly what I saw when very high on LSD. Changed my perception of everything

[@Harufloof]

@sk0sH i just meant that 4d is reality and the structure you see is 8d. but whatever thats just speculation and dimensions are not proven to be existing after 4d. because you just cant see past reality and lsd for me is reality. the most realest reality you can get in this life

[@Harufloof]

never tried dmt though

[@mdngls]

Xight oh you should lol. Enough shrooms I kinda feel going out into pure energy consciousness, on enough acid I could imagine the same but I’ve done some acid and mush trips so could of indeed been the shrooms pushing me out. Either way I do think this is solid, going out into the pure consciousness through space time, zooming out

[@JungleDance]

Ahmed N Yeah and last time i took acid i took 300 ug and i thought it wasnt enough.. my third time i took over 1000, which is the first time i SAW the e 8d

[@purplefire2834]

This is crazy cool. Reminds me of how Mendeleev predicted elements with the gaps in his periodic table

[@PeterSwinkels]

I appreciate you being honest about that not fully understanding the subject matter. Some KZbinrs could learn from that.

[@mizutoryu242]

Probably the first thing will be the equivalent of ''wtf are u doing in base 10?''

[@Envengerx]

Mizuto Ryu imagine alients having 2 and 3 bases to keep multiple dimensions in their calculations. Like there is a 2 base then a 8 base on the 2 based number. Might sound stupid but if they somehow could calculate with it.

[@stgodd]

I'm not gonna lie, I zoned out at one point and started fantasising about lunch.

[@kotodamamidnight412]

Such an easy target for A.I. Replacement.

[@Gunth0r]

because that's what the universe wanted you to do

[@justice7788]

I did too lol

[@tehjamerz]

stgodd You should fantasize about learning to spell. Gotta manifest your destiny, bruh.

[@ezaquatics8991]

I switched to reading comments when it really went over my head lol

[@kelliethornton7986]

I've been trying to encourage my friend's 12y/o to accept his faults and not be ashamed to admit them (I asked about why he didn't do something a few days ago, he laid down in the floor and dramatically said "bc I'm lazy."), and I absolutely love the blunt honesty about only understanding parts of this. Ima make him watch this 😊

[@diyimprover6887]

Somebody out there tripping on 'shrooms is watching this saying, "Well, duh!"

[@robertej09]

As soon as the golden ratio came up I thought "oh boy here we go."

[@SorinVBogdan]

haha exactly :))

[@SnowiDragon]

Yea I kinda peaced out after all the buzzwording

[@SolidSiren]

Correct. It insists upon itself. What a surprise.

[@user-ji5yc4ii2f]

The golden ratio is a very important concept in mathematics. You can have a lot of problems with Emergence Theory, but the golden ratio popping up in it's geometry equations shouldn't be one of them.

[@user-ji5yc4ii2f]

I can't tell what your criticism is exactly so please tell me if I misinterpret you. I don't remember what was said in the video, but I can tell you that the way Emergence Theory packs its 1D "pixels" or "code packets" is not _close to_ but _exactly_ at the golden ratio. This solely because it's geometrically the most efficient way to pack these things, any misinformed associations a layman might have with the name "golden ratio" is for him- or herself to uncover. The golden ratio is a frequently recurring constant that pops up all over science, maybe most notably in black hole entropy and DNA molecules. You're right that the term golden ratio has been a victim to many new age or quasiscience misusage. We don't dismiss E=mc^2 because of the term "energy", a word that's associated with a lot more woo hoo outside science than the golden ratio I can ensure you! ;D If you care, maybe take a look at some examples of how the golden ratio is important in geometry: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio#Geometry Also, what do you mean when you say "it is in fact exactly that, math"? Cheers!

[@blueckaym]

This figure looks like something you would see on DMT :)

[@tripical]

Kristian Curkovic have u ever done dmt?

[@blueckaym]

only psilocybin

[@tripical]

blueckaym this figure was everything I knew and was.

[@mercurywoodrose]

no fucking kidding. dmt probably created it, and us. or did we create dmt so it could create us? turtles all the way down.

[@IkBenDigio]

what if you could see actually see those dimensions .

[@eternaldreamer37]

Oh my god..... I sooooooo needed this. Deadpan gold.... well played sir.

[@barrykibrick7227]

Love your honesty. Great job and very authentic. Glad I found you. Barry

[@taintsweatnope5093]

Please include "woo woo time" in future videos!!!

[@bloodybobbygamecatx2532]

Mind blown lol good stuff I love how intellectually honest you are about stuff you don't know/don't quite understand! Thanks Joe

[@hadleymanmusic]

When I close my eyes and focus I can see that colored dot. Eventually it became a routine to " look" at. It would change geo shapes. It always looked like colored pixels. One time it focused sharply into an eye and it looked at me .

[@korryjepperson4013]

I'm so intrigued

[@Robert08010]

You just have to love how this replacement for string theory looks like string art.

[@theexchipmunk]

Emergence: When you dabble so deep in physics you just turn around and go back to religion. ;P

[@elijahjflowers]

damn...lmao

[@jackieolsa6860]

Lol! Too funny.

[@M33t3y]

When you realize that there are an infinite amount of universes where anything conceivable becomes a really you must accept that there is a being in one of these realities who is in fact God,but disgustingly, and undeniably, atheists have become like Christian scientist, they discredit discoveries that don't credit their own religion..if God appeared before you you'd become an atheist instantly because a theory would have become a reality. We humans are toddlers, distracted from reality by the hissy fits we are constantly throwing.its no wonder that almost all religious leaders and miracle workers preached humility, and begged people not to worship them.

[@linkinpark165]

​@@M33t3y "if God appeared before you you'd become an atheist instantly" I think you meant theist, also that's not a "bad" thing, even if something is true, if you cannot justify that truth, it's just a lucky guess... Let's put it like this, you playing roulette, you say "It's going to stop on 0", I say "it's not", it hits 0. Just because you guessed it right doesn't mean I was wrong to doubt your statement. You didn't justify it, the odds were against you, you just happened to be right because you said something that was true out of belief and not knowledge... Btw, I'm an agnostic atheist but I don't deny there is a very good chance there is something on what you can put the label of "God", however I can guarantee you, it's not anything you think it is nor it is something that any religion has come to describe... Imo if any religion is close is something like Buddhism, not Christianity, if that's the "God" you believe exists there is no need for any conversation, you are just wrong, not even like maybe wrong, it would be like you saying you gonna hit the -1 in the roulette

[@saltservice4024]

@daniel letterman "There is no "direction" in thought" And what do you base this argument on? Oh wise one. Please, do tell how one's thoughts have no "direction".... Edit: Lmao I just did ctrl+f, where the heck did any body even mention "direction" until you did here. Maybe you should get off your high-horse.... It's obviously way too high for you to ride. Ahhhhh

[@DaellusKnights]

"eventually you're going to eat one..." That you did, new friend. But you did it with style! 😂👍

[@hopegold883]

Idk. Maybe it wasn’t complete, but it did fill in a couple pieces of the QG puzzle for me.

[@jesselapides4390]

maybe he was also talking about mushrooms lmfao

[@cchanc3]

if you subscribe to the "fake it til you make it" model of the universe, then Joe's mistake was that he dropped the narrative for just a moment.

[@macollin5750]

Love the channel Joe - Makes me wish I’d stayed on to learn more on science.

[@cedarzeigler9076]

I appreciate your variety of videos 👌🏽keep it up

[@c3drikTheNarwhal]

You did a great job scrathing the surface of a concept I've never heard of. So tank you.

[@alexkorocencev7689]

5:32 this is nothing else than a search for a Periodic System of Particle Physics. Very interesting!

[@martybartfast1]

Great structure, honesty and your style has me engaged. Thank you Sir! I really enjoy learning with your chanel. m

[@sawahtb]

I gave you a thumbs up 👍 because I was genuinely confused. Good job

[@LarrySiden]

I read somewhere that in order for an observation or measurement to occur, there has to be a transfer of energy. This cannot happen at the quantum scale without altering the state of whatever is being observed. Nothing mysterious. I heard a great talk on you Tube where the speaker demonstrated that measurement is entanglement. He proceed with math that when we make a measurement at the quantum level, the state of the particle and the particle sensor become entangled. Makes perfect sense now.

[@monad_tcp]

It makes sense until you realize all the particles in the universe are entangled, so what collapses the wave equation ? That's the mystery.

[@argon1611]

awesome vid, thanks, as always: your perspective (and humor) is appreciated

[@MikeBUSA]

I'm new to your channel and have watched a bunch of them. This was my favorite. It's the best example I've seen where you're not talking down to us morons that thought we were going to watch a cat pawing at a string video. I feel like I sorta kinda understand the double slit and delayed quantum choice eraser stuff. This crap is mind-blowing. But it's important. Good stuff. Thank you.

[@DiPiazzaFabio]

You were just illuminating... thank you very much for yor ability in divulgation of such difficoult theories. Brave & Good!!!

[@rajchandran]

I had to stop the video and laugh at the first joke for a whole minute. Thank you !! I even like the corny photoshop .. thank you, thanku, thanku

[@quintopia]

"This is by no means accepted science at this point." world's biggest understatement.

[@xhelloselm]

How so? It's exactly what it is. There is no comparative to "not", unless you wanted to imply the idea is false/bullshit before it has even been tested. That would be foolishly narrow-minded though, so I assume that's not what you meant.

[@roonstation7178]

@@xhelloselm I think he means that this is the current most likely unifying theory of everything, not that it is bullshit

[@oak4901]

I looked for scientific curiosity and found none....

[@oak4901]

To misquote Aristotle: "An intelligent person can entertain an idea without believing it" Broaden your view, it is not painful...

[@inkyguy]

In other words, this is purely speculative. Fair enough. So is string theory, which has many people all aquiver. (See what I did there?) This idea at least has one major advantage to string theory because it actually has testable hypotheses; while so far, string theory has NONE. Good luck. The years ahead will be interesting and I hope fruitful for science and humanity.

[@seniortech4332]

Good job Joe. You squirm about presenting these difficult topics but you do really good job

[@tamrakat]

The E8 looks exactly like some of the images I’ve seen in the hypnagogic state. I used to call them ‘slowly spinning mandalas.’

[@dissturbbed]

Is that why people see geometric patterns while tripping on DMT?

[@joescott]

Cue Twilight Zone music.

[@soliton4]

Yes! This is exactly the reason why people see geometric patterns while tripping. If this wasnt true people would see ungeometric patterns

[@moodSlime_]

Robert Shackleferd now that you mentioned it it is!

[@versag3776]

Robert Shackleferd lol I'm guessing according to this theory, because you tripped on DMT the universe could have created geometry 13 billion years ago. Woo woo

[@steverossini]

We need Joe Rogan here to comment on this.

[@mariokajin]

That was really something. 👏👏👏 by the way when did I missed the 200k subscribers? Congrats man you really deserve it.

[@joescott]

A few weeks ago. Thanks!

[@abhisheksoni2980]

Oh, he deserves atleast ten times more. But as you know, entertainment will always be more appreciated than physics.

[@BrightestBlessings7899]

Mind blown! ....what I could follow! Thanks Joe! I love your videos they leave me feeling enlightened. Or at least a bit smarter.

[@mikew735]

You deserve the like i gave, kudo's to you for making such a cool vid, i like it when I watch a video and my ear starts to weep a little blood.

[@matthewgrotke1442]

I love the "WOO WOO ALARM". Garrett Lisi writes a paper entitled "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" and then Klee Irwin takes it and adds over 9000 layers of complication, metaphysics, and philosophy to it. Exceptionally simple, huh?

[@wojtek4p4]

I was already pretty iffy when I heard golden ratio multiple times throughout the video, without giving the reasoning (though there might be a good reason for it, I haven't read the paper, nor am I able to). Also: buzzwords! Golden ratio! Tetrahedrons as voxels of the universe! Consciousness! Higher dimensional shapes inexplicably mapped to lower dimensions! Still, at least the theory is provable/disprovable, so it has that going for it.

[@kevincrady2831]

Well, if it's a Theory of *Everything* it would have to tie in to lots of other stuff (including the sets of abstractions we call "metaphysics" and "philosophy") by definition, wouldn't it? :)

[@Chuk256]

Irwin and his institute kind set off some of my red flags for psuedo science trying to grab for donations.... but don't hold that against the original idea!

[@starmole5000]

I dont buy the Klee Irwin stuff. Total scam.

[@Expertek]

LMAO

[@piyushdas079]

I like your honesty ..it's refreshing

[@gregeads6124]

Good going, you finally broke my brain. Thanks a lot

[@rabbitdawg7964]

Joe, you could read the ingredient list on the back of a box of cereal and it would be fun. You brighten my day. Thanks!

[@c.augustin]

This E8 Lie Group sounds somewhat interesting and might actually be a key idea/theory (and who knows - it might be connected to String theory in the end; both have additional dimensions in common). But everything after that sounds too esoteric for my liking (even though it sounds cool that the Golden Ratio might be "the fundamental constant in the universe").

[@joescott]

Yeah, like I said, I think they take some leaps of logic but I know only a tiny percent of this.

[@c.augustin]

Your honesty is always good for a thumbs-up … ;)

[@ostapkurtash6359]

The plot of particles reminds me of the early stages of the periodic table through which we make cool predictions and know interesting similar properties. Could this be the same?

[@EpicFishStudio]

the golden ratio, in this case, has no magic powers, it is an emergent property. it and other numbers come everywhere when you have certain rules, like connect points with unit length lines.

[@MichaelFurnesFilms]

Take some LSD or Magic Mushrooms or any other psychedelic and this will all make much more sense. If you go deep enough you can visit these Dimensions and live to tell. But be carefull.

[@richardede9594]

Video length 11:38 The force is strong in this one....

[@joescott]

Good reference, padewan.

[@joelsmith3473]

...but 1138 is itself a reference to THX 1138

[@richardede9594]

Joel Smith a reference within a reference. We can keep tracing the references down to the Planck length.....

[@AlexandreMS71]

Even the Weak Force is strong in this one.

[@richardede9594]

Alexandre Salau 😂😂😂

[@allenflud]

I admire your honesty. Keep it up you make this fun.

[@gnra3286]

I appreciate how honest you are.

[@TommoCarroll]

*Like Joe said, it would be sweet for anyone that knows about this stuff in detail to add anything extra! It's so interesting!* Feel free to use this comment's reply section as a hub for keeping all the info in one place instead of scattered, I'd love to read it all! ✌

[@joescott]

Totally.

[@TommoCarroll]

✌

[@thstroyur]

If you like QG, look up the Wheeler-DeWitt eq, the Hartle-Hawking state, Loop Quantum Gravity, twistors, and Connes' non-commutative algebra, to name a few; peace! ;D

[@mikeygee4564]

Pretty bummed this thread isn't fuller

[@ZenImmortalScribeofAfrica]

Admitting you have no clue is admirable brother. Respect.

[@kitesurferwoohoo4676]

I can actually see the water vapor leaving your forehead from the stress! Have a beer man, your doing great!

[@isaacoravetz595]

Your a very brave man for undertaking this topic way past my pay grade but maybe hearing it is enough to change one on a fundamental level ✌😀!

[@johnstranger]

It sounds kind of like the new periodic table.

[@Citizen_JQP]

"Maybe a little phallic " Spit my coffee out of my nose. Nice one

[@stephenanderle5422]

Why were you drinking with your nose? !

[@hexacarbide268]

Great video. Seems like the alternative to spacetime. Your visualization was perfect but describing it using words I can see how hard that is

[@JennieWrenStar]

I followed most of that (to my surprise)! You actually explained it very well.