Is This Really the "Laravel of JavaScript"!? Let's Check Out AdonisJS!

[@amanvirk]

Hello Dorian 👋 Thanks for creating this fantastic video. I am Harminder Virk, the creator of AdonisJS. I 100% agree with you that not having a fully-fledged user management out of the box is a bummer. Recently, a lot of users have started pointing it out. So, yeah, it seems like we should work on it and include it in the default starter. I will drop an update here once we release it. It will be called Persona.

[@DorianDevelops]

Nice I'll pin this comment for visibility! Can't wait to check it out!

[@mixxxer]

Hey Harminder, do you have a rough ETA? I ask because this is incredibly exciting news!!!

[@Ivcota]

@@mixxxer As a dev you know ETAs are hard lol

[@olalekanraheem4655]

Please can we make it an opt in feature on generation instead of default @amanvirk

[@pengamatkonoha45]

I will wait for AdonisJS 7 with more features and more advanced technologies added to it. For now AdonisJS is great, and easy to learn and exactly the same as Laravel. That makes us happy. Keep up the good work towards 2025. AdonisJS is growing fast!

[@CodingPhase]

Yeah I love adonis js been using it for years I hate that people have really just stuck with next js as the default for node apps because adonis pretty much is the grand child of ruby on rails and the son of laravel

[@Zizaco]

And NextJS is kinda bad

[@mixxxer]

I can feel it in the air... Adonis is starting to pick up steam. A lot of Nextjs developers are experiencing extreme fatigue.

[@mnchabel8402]

I really love your approach to learning laravel, It really shows how difficult it is to just pick a stack these days. Another nice framework I like is honojs. I'm curious how you'd compare it to laravel.

[@pookiepats]

hono is a server and a router, you bring your own renderer - it's hardly worth a comparison to Laravel. That said, as somebody who uses both - despite all the bells and whistles Laravel brings - PHP is strictly a server side language and you will quickly feel caged in. And no matter what, you end up writing javascript - if you want to write production apps and not just goofy KZbin tutorials - YOU WILL WRITE JAVASCRIPT - so, just pick Javascript. That is my advice. There is so much hidden cost to choosing PHP and most of that is incurred by you the developer. This is coming from a freelancer, i can't speak to a teams experience - I work alone. Javascript has a wow factor that PHP cannot match. P.S. - I will say the one thing I adore from the PHP experience I have is Kirby CMS with Zero One Theme - HOLY CRAP, I'M IN LOVE. But that's for websites not apps.

[@JamesJosephFinn]

Adonis isn’t “new”, been around for a long time in web dev terms, and is mature and vetted, but the adoption never took off.

[@Geomaverick124]

I kinda wish AdonisJs was as popular as Django, Rails, and Laravel

[@kirayamato6128]

it won't happen. choosing Laravel is better than Adonis if you want to be more DX because Laravel Docs and APIs are awesome

[@devOnHoliday]

It' the difference in the communities. Like thePrime says, it might be the tap water

[@thedailycutline278]

Nextjs and remix just k$lls it, the reason people love these frameworks, is they give you all the customizations in the world to do what you want, laravel is restricted on some customizability, otherwise big companies like openai would be using it

[@nicholasprice5137]

I wish there was an Adonis/Laravel of Ruby! (I know RoR is the OG, but I just wish there was a super tight, first-party version of RoR instead of having to deal with the mega universe of gems, the Ruby versions they require, and the deprications that result when they stop being maintained.) I just love the elegance and brevity of Ruby and wish there was a tight batteries-included framework + a concise language). Any tips out there?

[@nicholasprice5137]

FYI, I’ve started using elixir/phoenix/liveview and have fallen in love. Even though there’s nothing “marketed” as laravel is for the whole ecosystem, they have such a high bar for their “hex” libraries, and because the nature of functional programming/the framework is so intentionally modular, I’ve found it to have the same graceful experience as laravel. And it’s also craaazzzzy performant and has insanely good fault tolerance. I personally “get” functional programming much more than OOP, and if you’re looking for an elegant language like Ruby, then I strongly strongly recommend LiveView/Phoenix/Elixir.

[@Zizaco]

Adonis JS is the 🐐

[@BekaMan323]

Have you tried nestjs

[@furycorp]

@@User-y6m2m hono client types aren't mature and in current versions under the hood "type safety" relies on type unsafe casts to force things to "work" which will hit you if you try to do something timesaving with middleware or routers and then realize your types are all messed up

[@jmon24ify]

NestJS is good. I have used at a couple of companies I used to work for. But it is influenced by Angular and Spring Boot, not Laravel. And HonoJS is closer to ExpressJS

[@mnchabel8402]

I'm surprised Adonisjs is still around.

[@Yakubkrisnata]

At first, i though he is taylor... Because he talk about laravel a lot... 😅

[@paulomirandaarias9544]

Taylor.js

[@FaizanAli-visiontech]

I hate Adonis. There are very slow to response. And they are very arrogant as well

[@manansharma4981]

The fact you expect Open source maintainers to reply to you quickly explains a lot about you

[@leolopezdev]

I am learning the MERN stack, but I like this kind of information, because adonis.js looks more professional.

[@vendetta3953]

The fact that this mess of a language is always trying to cope and cope rather than actually solving a problem for good should explain a lot about the language.