IS THIS SEQUEL BAD !? - Spider-Man Venom : Separation Anxiety

I today's video, we cover Spider-Man Venom Separation Anxiety for Sega Genesis, Super Nintendo and PC. Let's look back at the history of this game, what it brought to the table and the characters it included.
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[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

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[@greenkoopa]

I didn't see a notification on Discord, are you on a different server Top 👀🐢

[@TBO_Punk665]

I remember back in the day, Maximum Carnage was impossible to beat as a kid. Separation Anxiety - while being in many ways downgraded - having co op was a huge plus for my brother and I. We loved both games, but getting the chance to play together made SA much more enjoyable than it should have been.

[@jailcatjones3250]

Maximum carnage is my favorite beat 'em up game

[@BUPMY1]

I think the Genesis version of Maximum Carnage had co op.

[@TBO_Punk665]

@@BUPMY1 I’ve played both versions, and sadly both are single player. Amazing game, though.

[@aretnap3653]

SuperNintendo's Version is Harder Than SEGA's.

[@DwayneJr1]

That's how it was for us. When we got it we were happier about the co-op more than anything since we always looked for co-op games as a kid on our SNES.

[@TimAllen624]

I remember being so fascinated with the box art as a kid.

[@anotherhealingjourneybegins]

That's Scream lol, I loved her action figure back in the day!

[@vic5015]

Isn't her name actually Shriek?

[@anotherhealingjourneybegins]

@Justin Shim that's another villain, she was in Venom 2

[@vic5015]

​@@anotherhealingjourneybeginsah

[@willdiesel8431]

​@@vic5015 no Shriek was the random villainess who was in Maximum Carnage the game and comic book. Best described as a female Freakazoid.

[@djredshow]

@Will Diesel and in the second movie. I used to have all 14 maximum carnage issues and I wish I never got rid of them.

[@victor-2409]

I actually played Separation Anxiety before I first played Maximum Carnage and for years I thought the latter was the sequel to the former. I remember thinking Maximum Carnage was the natural evolution to Separation Anxiety in every way although, sadly, with no multiplayer mode. As a teen, I was shocked when I realised Separation Anxiety was the sequel. By that time, I was such a fan of Maximum Carnage I never really managed to have fun playing Separation Anxiety ever again...

[@iswhatheis]

Oh my god, my first beat 'em up. Thanks for doing this one justice, even though the game is repetitive and seems unfinished, it was pretty fun, and getting far in this game was a cool feeling back then. I can't believe one of those reviewers said the music wasn't dynamic enough, if anything that game had some of the CLEANEST samples heard in a SNES game, that boss music is still stuck in my head. I remember I got upset at my cousin because, in the first level, if you go to the left and punch the corner, you get a secret room with extra lives, and if you wait for a few seconds after everyone's defeated, you can get FOUR more lives, but my cousin pressed the damn webslinging button on my controller for me and left the room. That punk.

[@Zrorro]

I used to rent this game a lot. Well I did like maximum Carnage, I usually prefer to play separation anxiety more only because it was two players. Me and my friends used to love running through two-player games like Ninja turtles, final fight 2 and 3, battle toads & double Dragon, and this one separation anxiety.

[@docblade3270]

Once Venom was captured by a corporations and they extracted some "sons" from the simbionte, that was one of them!

[@Riosokkablackwolf]

Yes!!! Loved playing this game on the Snes! This game made me a fan of Venom! 😁

[@greenkoopa]

Yeah but it was better on Sega Genesis 🐢

[@Bloody-Butterfly]

I played this all the time with my friends. Loved it!

[@orcwarchiefreviews]

It is sad to see how walkthroughs look now back in the day I used to love just buying the books not because I needed to help because sometimes they were absolutely cool and beautiful I still remember a couple the walkthroughs giving me ideas for Dungeons & Dragons weapons gear I've even used a couple the maps I miss those old walkthrough books wish they existed more

[@AP-ox7jf]

So NOT bad that in 1996 I took my Fisher-Price microphone cassette recorder and recorded the theme song onto a cassette by holding the cheap toy plastic microphone up to the TV speaker and recording it for future use, aptly labeling the tape "Seperation Angsiety". Also weirdly accidentally entered the invincibility cheat code once as I was able to finish the game after way too many deaths and no life reduction. Thanks Byron for helping me. Love this game.

[@jediknightgeo]

Seperation Anxiety was TRASH, especially compared to Maximum Carnage. Literally the ONLY improvement was that it was 2 player co-op. Everything else was a downgrade in some way/shape/form. I remember being so hyped for it when I saw it in gaming magazines. "A sequel to Maximum Carnage!? And it's 2 player co-op!?" Then once I played it...damn what a GARGANTUAN letdown.

[@billyj.causeyvideoguy7361]

They removed those silly lightning bolt levels. Id consider that an upgrade.

[@RubbleD]

One thing you could never say was bad was the soundtrack. The music in this game was so good

[@chiissu]

I think Separation Anxiety to Maximum Carnage is sorta like Max to Adventures of Star Saver on Game Boy: Worse graphics and simpler gameplay but more forgiving. The music is brain jamming, like radar jamming, you can't think in some levels instead of the Green Jelly tunes from the 1st game. In the 1st game there's a build up: You see Carnage in cut scenes for the 1st part, then when you 1st fight him, there's a Power Up that lets you take him out in 1 hit, but each time you face him: he resists it more, until you face him 1 on 1 at the lake, then at the ruined boys home. and he HUNTS you! If you run he goes after you in an all out attack! But then in Separation Anxiety: You only see him at the END of the game and he runs away like a girly man and comes out for hit and run attacks! No build up, no reference, just: End of the game, fight Carnage! But a few things make it batter than Maximum Carnage: 1 player co op, Choosing which character to be from the start, Passwords so you can start later or have infinite lives to Garlic Jr through the game. Its mostly a downgrade in looks and sounds, but in Gameplay it adds things people wanted for the 1st one. Sorta like Maximum Carnage put the Story 1st with using Spider-Man at the start and later getting Venom, But here puts the Game 1st.

[@michaelgibson260]

good stuff =). keep up the good work!!!

[@TJDious]

... i mean dude, she has an action figure.

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

I've had wrestling matches against loads of people with action figures, Joe-public wouldn't have a clue who they were though!

[@justingochioco1121]

Fun fact in the comics Deadpool had the black goo first before Spider-Man as it was shown in Deadpool’s secret secret wars from 2016

[@Mankey619]

Scream is the very first female symbiote ever created in the comics back in the 90s era of Spider-Man. It’s crazy that they made a beat em up game on one of their comic book storyline that was going on at the time.

[@bozzyham]

Bless you, one of my all time favorites!

[@jeremychaffin3733]

I could never remember the name of this game, definitely one of my favorites!

[@animanga87]

Maximum Carnage is still one of my top 3 go-to SNES games when I turn on the system. I grew up with it as well. I can’t describe the disappointment I felt as a kid when I convinced my parents to buy Separation Anxiety. And it was the PC port! I thought the tiny sprites, synth music (vs the rocking Green Jelly and metal soundtrack of MC) and no comic book cutscenes were due to it being an inferior PC version, even as a 8 year old kid! Came to find out later when I played it on SNES at a friend’s house that was just the game. It just felt like Maximum Carnage Lite in every respect and a truly missed opportunity to build on an awesome beat ‘em up.

[@francesco55555]

Spiderman the animated series game (I mean the Genesis version I had the pleasure to explore as a kid) was a really superb realization, according to me it was the equivalent to X-Men 2 Clones War in terms of quality, atmosphere, and comics fidelity. This game (mid 90s) was released at 16 bits edge and was even better than Spiderman vs Kingpin. Marvel Comics Golden Games. Then Capcom arrived with the unbelievable X-Men COTA on Saturn, so I get a Saturn (what a marvelous console) and had also Marvel Super Heroes. And I was just incapable of stop playing this Jewels. WOW. The came X-Men vs Street Fighters. WOOOW.

[@TonAsh242]

Imagine being a kid thinking this game wasn’t good for any reason.

[@johnmorey720]

The final level is a fantastic boss rush, though, with enemies you can throw (into the others) spaced perfectly between the ones you can't.

[@The_Marathon_Man]

Yeah that’s scream now silence If your not in to comics most wouldn’t know thank you for bringing light on this Top Hat

[@marcianoacuerda]

Good one! I had this game as a child and didn’t know any of this symbiotes either. My English wasn’t very good at the time, and trying to research about them made me interpret “spawns from Venom” as that being their name. So to me they were Spawn XD 😅

[@Darkkefka]

I played the HELL out of this game as a kid.

[@Nothing-vl3ip]

I love the comic book graphics of Maximum Carnage but always preferred Separation Anxiety since it was multiplayer.

[@tonesdad0408]

7:05 not so confusingly as there was an episode of the 80's Spider-Man cartoon where they team up against the Red Skull.

[@brunnen1]

the genesis ost for this game slaps

[@trappestarrgaming3422]

As a huge Scream fan that "who even is this on the cover" cut deep

[@gamefann]

Loved this game as a kid… never owned the first. The game was hella hard tho. I think I used to only get up to the forest stage reliably before discovering you can just use venoms shield and shift left and right to slowly damage enemies. Never knew the game had “summons” now I have to revisit the game and see if they help out with the bosses.

[@xKillZone99]

underrated game cause it doesn't offer anything different from maximum carnage aside from being easier, better music and having Co-op, by itself it's a great game and one of the beat beat em ups but because it's a sequel to maximum carnage it won't get the love it deserves

[@Marc_Araujo]

People hate on this game all the time, but I kinda enjoyed it on the SNES when I was younger...probably cuz it was nowhere near as hard as Maximum Carnage. P.S. The Carnage story arc in Spider-Man: The Animated Series really disappointed me when I was a kid...they could've done it so much better.

[@Gamesta100]

It's a good game, MC is just better. SA might just be easier because it has 2 difficulties. You just have to use a password to get hard difficulty. I haven't played it on hard difficulty so I can't say if that's as hard as MC is.

[@willdiesel8431]

Oh here we go. It's not hate to say the sequel was severely lacking. The only thing it offered was 2 player co-op. In any other context that's considered a bad game. Get over it.

[@Marc_Araujo]

@@willdiesel8431 This game is more often "hated" upon than "praised." Did I say anything that wasn't true?

[@willdiesel8431]

@@Marc_Araujo was that anything close to your EXACT initial quote? Being smart isn't a good look for you, I wouldn't attempt it again.

[@makaiev]

This trilogy deserves a remaster on an arkham knight style...

[@xtreme65]

Multiplayer was a big bonus for me and my twin brother as our favorite Marvel characters were Spider-Man and Venom, and this is one of the few Marvel games that allowed us to play both at the same time. And its still a decent beat em up no matter how you criticize it which honestly its main criticism is its a downgrade of Maximum Carnage, which if playing solo is the superior game. But the multiplayer fun in Seperation Anxiety IMO trumps all of Maximum Carnage's pros. Love the game, an easy 8/10 for me.

[@BUPMY1]

I played Maximum Carnage (re bought it 3-4 years ago) but I never heard of Separation Anxiety.

[@Spaceghost1241]

Loved the game a lot as a kid. ❤

[@Psmgamer]

Me and my brother loved Separation Anxiety on SNES cause of the two player mode. My brother could never beat Maximum Carnage as it was challenging especially on the last level. He had it made all the way to Carnage then came close to beating him.

[@TonAsh242]

Short answer: no

[@joeyjo-joshabadu9636]

I like the music in the Genesis version

[@D00M3R-SK8]

I had the first one, and I loved it. I couldn't get past the Doppelganger though, and ended up returning it. I was pretty young at the time though, and very bad at games.

[@Strider0167]

If you think about it separation anxiety would be a perfect title due to players wanting multiplayer from the original game.

[@teflonjohn4018]

Me and my cousin rented this game from Block Buster and spent all weekend playing it absolutely loved it. Was hard as fuck, and no saves at the time so when you die you start all the way over😅😂

[@alexanderwinters4495]

Too hat, after the first levels on the nintendo version you could go two player. used to rent it and run through it with my little brothers on the weekend.

[@Kos4Evr]

Did you really just mix up scream and shriek? I think you did.

[@ronaldwagner1343]

I love this game and own it too.

[@noidont8149]

auw memory lane..... I used to have all those comics and even still have a few including screams debut. odly though this is one of the few marvel games of the era that I never played. HOwever Imagine a maximum carnage remake with todays graphics and game engines

[@Bowen_Landry]

I owned the pc port back in the day. I still quite like this game.

[@Vanish_1991]

Would be great if we got an animated movie of Seperation Anxiety

[@donnythedreamer]

Yea I never got to play the game but I had seen it at my local video store back in the day scream being a new symbiote sold me wanting to rent it only for the rental cartridge to not work...sadly. I never read the full storyline either but thanks to Internet I gotta get on this shit lol

[@hdofu]

Is it a Turtles in time to original Arcade game? No. Is it a Double Dragon II to Double Dragon? Yes.

[@louisdellalucca8969]

I didn’t think it was terrible. I actually managed to beat this game back in the day, unlike Maximum Carnage.

[@krob8823]

Loved this game

[@vic5015]

Uh, isnt her nane actuality Shriek? Or am i wrong here?

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Shrek*

[@cedrickhall3869]

I can see this as being a bad ass movie

[@jailcatjones3250]

Didnt even know maximum carnage had a poopie sequel

[@deathcold_longplaysua4846]

Never played this game back in my childhood until emulation. The only Spider-Man games I played was, Spider-Man Return of Sinister Six on NES, Spider-Man vs The Kingpin on Mega Drive and Maximum Carnage on Mega Drive too. Every other Spider-Man game passed through, and I never knew that they existed until emulation. But still, I think that I got the best Spider-Man games back then on Mega Drive, cause other games on the platform was... meh. Like, Spider-Man and X-Men in Arcade's Revenge has bad audio quality and doesn't feel right. Spider-Man animated series game on the same platform, despite good visuals, has the same bad audio and gameplay problems. And Separation Anxiety plays good, but like they say, visuals was poor, if you compare it to Maximum Carnage. Or compare it to some other games, like The Punisher on Mega Drive, made by Capcom, or to Streets of Rage trilogy. They all have great details, good soundtrack, nice audio quality and perfect gameplay. While Separation Anxiety has only good audio, and cool gameplay but lacks in everything else. So yeah, I hope that someone could make a hack for Maximum Carnage, that adds local co-op for 2 players. So that we all can enjoy this game.

[@VSarquiza]

One of the few games I was able to finish with my cousin.....😂

[@djcactus]

Nothing really obscure about scream tbh

[@alberto60]

It's not all bad. Overall, it's the best Spiderman and Marvel beat em up game I played

[@GregoriusAP]

Before I watched the video, the answer is Scream.

[@GrandDungeonDad]

I still play this in my modded xbox

[@ckingch]

I have no idea why they downgraded the graphics and didn't have Green Jelly do the music again. Hell, they could have ported a lot of the old spritework from Maximum Carnage and it would have looked better.

[@georgehernandez2156]

It sucks that we will never get a comic book accurate venom for the movies.

[@aretnap3653]

As Soon as I Beat SeparationAnxiety, I Got Rid of It. (I Still Have My RedCartridge "MaximumCarnage", to This Day!)

[@aretnap3653]

I Beat MaximumCarnage about a Month after if Came out on SEGA. (I Had Mad "Streets of Rage"(2) Skills, So MaximumCarnage Got Easy, When I Learned (For MySelf) Where All The Power-Ups & SecretRooms Were.)

[@Sparring_bruce]

Can you do the ps2 game "the bouncer game"

[@EC-ol8nz]

PC version was the BOMB!!!

[@dwightphillips7578]

Yes screw from the red cartridge, maximum carnage

[@ensabahnur7657]

I love Symbiotes!

[@TopHatGamingManChannel]

Me and the KZbin algorithm have become one :(

[@SJReid82]

0:45 Duck Venom is never not hilarious!

[@devingiles6597]

Top Hat Gaming Man, in a future video, would you mind covering the global launch of the Nintendo Entertainment System. Since you already did a video on the global launch of the Super Nintendo, you should do the same with its predecessor.

[@WOLVERINE25TH]

I do have memories of playing this with my mother, as it was one of the few 2-players she'd attempt (she was more of a Zelda/puzzle player). But, I have always and continue to agree with the reviews. Compared to Maximum Carnage, this game was a serious downgrade in gameplay, visuals and sound. The only thing going for it was the coop feature sadly lacking from MC. It's only lucky the animated series game exists to keep it out of my personal WORST Spidey game ranking.

[@VictorHernandez-nj2lo]

Debate this: Scream vs Sindel from mortal kombat

[@sonicsega1699]

SA was a major letdown. i thought it was the prequal with how bad it was. ofcourse, i played it on the genesis, while i played MC on snes. the snes graphics were nice but the MC main drawing point was the kickass music. both games unfortunately had terrible endings for how long and difficult they were. if you're going to attempt either game, make sure you get ALL extra lives/continues, these games are exceedingly difficult.

[@jrtien]

I loved Maximum Carnage, so seeing this game originally got me really pumped, but seeing the gameplay, sprites, clunky animation and generally all around lower quality of the game left me disappointed. I never played much of it as it was too much of a downgrade in my mind to appreciate.

[@JLMtime]

I'm sorry your click bait is wrong but I love carnage & own first 3 appearance of him. rare better then 1st edition.

[@aznbreakerboi51o]

How you gonna make a beat ‘em up game featuring Spider-Man (one of the most popular superheroes of all time), teaming up with Venom (arguably his true arch nemesis) to fight Carnage a (bigger badder evil) along side of Riot, Scream, Agony, Lasher, and Phage (five other big bad symbiotes) a single player game? I get the story telling and the graphics are a downgrade from maximum carnage, but the single redeeming quality that makes this game superior is the fact that you can actually team up with another player.

[@zhengistasbolatov8480]

I had this cartridge back then (pirate copy I think), it was a downgrade from Maximum Carnage, but at least I beat this one, it's pretty easy. I never beat the last stage of Maximum Carnage.

[@leerunion519]

"To pronounce my name correctly I would need to cut out your tongue." so scream will have to safice for now. I wish they'd do more with Phage that Character is totally over looked and cast aside as filler material..Sad really.

[@L_E_L_0_U_P]

I felt the exact same way about venom and carnage, i guess you are 35 or 36? Lol

[@strangelovemd1]

I grew up very poor. My stepfather somehow managed to buy the SNES alongside the street fighter 2 cartridge (1992). I played Street fighter 2 for two straight years and owned no other video game for the SNES until the release of Spider-Man: separation anxiety (1995). That’s how poor my family was and how expensive these cartridges were ($90 USD a game !!!!) I was already aware of the Spider-Man: Maximum Carnage game and wanted to play it very badly and still haven’t to this day. There was no KZbin back then so I had to experience the game through the screenshots found in advertisements within the pages of the comic books that I obsessed over. the Spider-Man: maximum carnage game had more to offer in comparison to separation anxiety Because the sequel had less guest characters. Once again, I saw and felt that major difference simply by playing separation anxiety and comparing it to the maximum carnage advertisements. Also, I was disappointed that I beat it in no less than 24 hours. (I always wanted to fight the bad guys inside of the Statue of Liberty in Max Carnage🗽)

[@sorrycashonly5651]

Great potential, but it’s just a bad game no matter how we look at it

[@1983jcheat]

Even on the PC, it was horrible.

[@miamimagicians]

horrible game... maximum carnage was alot better

[@blanketmobbypants]

These were the best characters besides Armored Spider Man and Venom Spider or as I called him, Black Spider Man lol. I still haven't played Venom vs Carnage I think but I remember Carnage scaring me in Spider Man 1 on the PS1