Is This Small Muscle Behind Your Knee Causing Pain?

Bob and Brad discuss if the small muscle behind your knee is causing your knee pain.
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0:00 intro, 0:24 the anatomy of behind the knee, 1:38 how to tell what is causing your knee pain, 2:09 how to massage across the muscle fibers, 3:34 outro
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[@BobandBrad]

If you think something else is causing your knee pain check out our knee series for more tests and treatment options. kzbin.info/aero/PL8l32k1r15l45pq8HBsa0CHPqxQl9oLFs

[@carolinemcallister1473]

Hi! I'm going to be paying out of pocket, so where should I start with your videos on assessing and helping my own right knee issue? I'm positive it's muscle knots and tightness, as it gets better with movement, heat, stretching, and hard massaging. I want to save a visit to a professional, if I'm not having much success, or it's taking too long to loosen. Thanks for any help!

[@paintedwings74]

This muscle was something I became aware of after a total knee replacement with a constrained prosthetic. I had a hard time with the gas pedal once I started driving, and I realized--WOW, it's one absolutely teeny muscle causing this problem! One small motion that pulls the lower leg into the "pedal push" position and helps switch from gas to brake was just a little more difficult. At any rate--thanks for talking about this, I wish my PT knew to ask about it!

[@terrieanderson717]

Love this!!! Thanks for the great video

[@KR-kh4or]

After watching the knee series, believe problem is the popliteal muscle. Will try the exercises to see if pain improves. Thanks again.

[@PhoenixProdLLC]

Sounds to me like Bobs speech is rehabbing really well! Sorry he's gone through that, but looks like he's coming out the other side of that challenge like a champ! 🙋🏼‍♀️

[@joe94c]

What happened?

[@windfishletusdream]

Ataxia

[@BobandBrad]

Bob (the tall one) has been diagnosed with Ataxia. It affects his balance and his speech, but does not affect his thinking. We appreciate your understanding and support!

[@teresaspensley5640]

God bless you guys and thanks for all the help you give us all. Praying for your recovery Bob👍🏻🙏🙋🏻‍♀️👏🧡

[@teresaspensley5640]

Thanks for this guys mine is very very painful. I will keep doing this 👍🏻🇬🇧🙋🏻‍♀️

[@teresamacfee6660]

It is nice hearing Bob talk more in the videos.

[@mrsk812]

Wow, I needed this. Went to a doctor for pain there recently. X rays didn’t show anything, but the doctor gave me an anti inflammatory for it and told me to take Tylenol. Didn’t help. But when I started the massage you gave I could feel a bit better. Will be continuing this! Thanks Bob and Brad!

[@jerrysanders9101]

Can you offer an update mrs K?

[@PowderPuff_]

mrsK812, how long did it take to heal?

[@mrsk812]

About a month. I have to keep massaging it because if I don’t it comes back.

[@PowderPuff_]

@@mrsk812 Thank you so much for answering. I was hoping for instant relief, but I guess that’s wishful thinking.

[@worksmarter.notharder.1033]

You two are fabulous and have helped me a few times over the years. I’m in the building trades and, at lunch this week I mentioned your channel to a few guys at work, and was happily surprised several of them have watched your videos. The one even sang your jingle. So thank you; you help more people than you’ll ever know.

[@ericcartman1323]

Good to see you’re still pumping out those videos Bob. All the best to you from Oz 🤝🍻

[@lhmcd5538]

Mine has been hurting. How did you know? Thank you. May you please take care and stay safe.

[@fingerlakespreppergrl]

same here

[@lampw65]

Same!

[@User11495]

Same. Thats Why i subbed too them. So i can look into it, if i get a problem myself.

[@jeantarry6726]

Same! Always wondered what that was.

[@justcallmejoe2811]

May Brad get well soon 🙏🏻

[@erikallen863]

I remember learning the term popliteal as a kid and thinking it was the coolest name for a body part. I always noticed that the hollow back of the knee on everyone else looked so defined and had those two lines, and I was envious because I never had that definition. My mom was a nursing student then and had all the new fun knowledge to show off, like knowing what a popliteal was called when I asked.

[@melanierhine593]

Wow thanks so much! I have been hurting in this exact location for two weeks. Went to the dr and urgent care and they couldn't find anything wrong! I'm sure this is what it is! You guys are the best!

[@WiseOwl108]

Great to see Bob back in the videos 💚

[@bbfreetube]

Thank you guys! That is exactly where this is on my knee. God Bless you both

[@shutthegate8232]

Get well soon Bob, God Bless.

[@dudeskeela]

you guys have been an invaluable resource in my life over many years. thank you so much.

[@ranjanachand9306]

The muscle behind my left knee was really hurting for some reason.. Came across your video and tried the oblique massage technique on it and boy did I get relief... The p tightness didn't completely go in one massage but I'm massaging it every day now... Thanks a ton

[@A_ndrea]

You guys are here to save my day again. Thank god!

[@zynlove6867]

Bob and Brad are sooo helpful! You help me and my family! Thank you for your knowledge and sharing it foxe us! Rooting for you Bob!!!

[@twentytolife4401]

I had intense pain from outside of my knee and across the back of my knee. The cause was when my knee buckled. Feeling better after months of discomfort. Meniscus discomfort can now be felt. Yet it feels like it's slowly getting better. Massaging, and walking making it feel better each day. Stay active folks. Keep the blood flowing.

[@carolyncornelius1492]

GOOD EVENING BOB AND BRAD!! ... NOW I UNDERSTAND A BIT MORE ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF MINE! .. THANK YOU SO MUCH! .. WE ALL ABSOLUTELY TRUST YOUR ALWAYS AMAZING ADVICE!! .. WOW!! .. GOD BLESS YOU BOTH! .... CC .. PS: PLEASE CONTINUE ADVISING US ALL THE TIME!! .. SINCERELY APPRECIATED! 🥰

[@susantokles5042]

♥️♥️ Much love and good wishes to Bob. I look forward to your videos every day. You two 🌞 brighten my days. Prayers for you.

[@joe94c]

Oh god. I've been waiting for this. I'm recovering from my second ACL reconstruction in the same knee and this time that area has given me no end of trouble

[@ruth4489]

I have had pain in that same area recently. Thought I had hurt myself picking up something heavy the other day. Thanks for your video

[@joseenoel8093]

Prior to my meniscus tear op, hospital's physio therapist felt this muscle to confirm knee's strenght and use (I guess), she was confident I was active, having had the same op herself, she said I was to tell them (demand) the anesthesiologist freeze me from the waist down and not put me under! I battled and won!

[@debralee1973]

Yea even saw a specialist today and they only seem to care about the front of knee instead of behind the knee

[@debbiewilkinson4277]

Thank you. That part hurts so bad on me!! God bless you both very much!!

[@jamela3407]

Great to see you both☺️👍 thank you for the informative video 😁

[@jackycordell7464]

I’m hoping this helps with my knee pain after my total knee replacement. Thank you.

[@marycoopman6565]

Thanks so much, I thought I had a bakers cyst… it was hurting during spin classes and then other times when I was just laying down and bending my leg. I’ll try the massaging of this odd little muscle. Thanks, you guys are great and have even helped my broken heart.

[@angelbear_og]

Appreciate Bob continuing to share his knowledge with us.

[@SmokeyTactics]

Thanks guys!! I’ve been having g this exact muscle pain after a long walk and had never felt this before!! The massaging definitely helps, thanks 😊

[@BobandBrad]

Great to hear!

[@KR-kh4or]

Wanted to say how beneficial your videos are. Use your videos as an excellent source of information. Was unable to get to physical therapy for a fractured clavicle due to extreme weather conditions. Used your videos, diligently performed the exercises and fully recovered. Cannot thank you enough.

[@G-S-D]

I had an ACL done on my right knee and I’ve been telling this quack for 10 years there’s something wrong and this is exactly what’s wrong it feels like this muscle slides around the backside and it gets hard on the back of my knee but this is it thank you. The quack keeps telling me it’s just a deconditioned leg. I’ve been dealing with this for 10 years

[@vicentemoreno1001]

felt my calf pop then the pain is mostly behind my knee at this point thanks for all the videos!

[@Taziod]

My respects to BOB! Hope you're doing well

[@taramedhurst216]

You two have been so helpful since my TKR thankyou

[@oilpntr]

As always, love your help and these vids

[@speshwemmick6225]

That actually works! 😃😃Thank you! Seriously, thank you. For me relief was almost instantaneous.. Somehow I reckon the pain is connected to the wear and tear behind my patella diagnosed many years ago. 🙏🏼

[@janalaughlin2197]

Bob you are so awesome! You are too Brad! God bless you!

[@handmaidmd]

Be cautious with the lymph nodes in the bend of the knee!

[@sighberscamp1]

And make sure you don't have a blood cloth in your calf. It could dislodge and cause scary things to happen

[@oilpntr]

Oh I need help with the Adductor Longinus and maybe the Sartorius- and pointers for that?

[@Griwhoolda]

Brad, you've been killing me lately with your KZbin thumbnails! 🤣

[@slim215]

Bob I support you! I appreciate you both so much….💝

[@bluephone8016]

Bob and Brad you always know what ails me. I've been having trouble with that muscle after a lot of double under jump rope exercises. I rubbed it out with a tennis ball. A little too aggressive, but I'm glad to know it's a simple fix. Thank you

[@robertnordeen4631]

Ohh sure. That smarts when I massage it. Thanks

[@stripeyshrimp6351]

I suffer with EDS and I’ve been having this kind of pain for weeks. So glad I remembered your channel because this has helped loads Thank you so much!! ❤ So Glad Bobs speech therapy is helping him he sounds great! 🥰

[@ashtangakris]

I was surprised how tender this is on my knee. Thanks for this video!

[@clintvigil6578]

Sending prayers and love

[@rhsab1]

Good information. I didn’t know about that muscle. Thanks

[@craigh8602]

Playing tennis and pickleball as contact sports has its ramifications. My popiltieus injury has been greatly helped by a hand gun massager--as well has an associated tightening of the hamstring, calf muscles and Achilles tendon. There's also a popping noise on the side of my knee which is another (sad) story. Always something...

[@aryaunderfoot2007]

Thank you for soldiering on, Bob! You sound great.

[@Chris-sj5lj]

Thanks for this, I have ongoing issues with this part of the knee and hope that self massage will help !

[@le-netteleveston6835]

Thanks. I really needed this. My knee is very hard to bend. Very tight. I'm going to see if this helps.

[@le-netteleveston6835]

Thank you. 🙏. I'm trying to find a solution to breakup old scar tissue that's making it hard to bend my knee.

[@greenleavesofsummer9673]

What causes pain? Is there a specific exercise or stretching other than massaging? I’ve had this Playing tennis when younger. Not enough of problem to go to doc.

[@nicholasankomah5628]

How long does it take MCL to heal completely? I mean a tear.

[@carolm4545]

You guys are keeping it real! Glad to see Bob again!

[@HelixRsix]

Oh ya boys always helpful and interesting keep plugging away Bob 👍👍🇦🇺

[@Rittlesleo]

No,but the mosquito bites behind my knees are driving me crazy!

[@carolyncornelius1492]

🥰😀 Oh Yes!!

[@anncoxwell7015]

It worked for me! Thanks!

[@tattvavidya]

So good to see Bob

[@markhetz1119]

I think mines irritated from swimming too much you know the ocean 🌊 the pool 🏊‍♂️ summertime 🌞 stuff….. love y’all so glad to see Bob❤have a Blessed Summer

[@sighberscamp1]

Good to know! I'll give it a try. I wonder if it has anything to do with loss or feeling/ numbness down the inside of the leg and into the ankle. Over the past few months, I have noticed the feeling above my ankle to above halfway up my calf decreasing more and more. At the ankle, I have pretty much no feeling at all anymore. My knee is completely bone on bone, to the point where doctors can no longer get a needle into the joint to give me an injection, and my knee has bowed in sideways, and is permanently swollen over twice normal size. Any hints or ideas? I really don't want a replacement. Doctors say I need both done, but after getting both hips done and my neck fused, I'm not jumping for joy at the thought of another major surgery, especially one that will cripple me even more so than I already am. I'm all but wheelchair bound as it is. I use two canes to get around the house, only because I'm in a mobile home and a standard wheelchair takes up too much room.

[@georgiamay4045]

thanks

[@larrybair8074]

Good guys, good information.

[@travisingram1091]

This pain has been hurting my leg quite severely and I just couldn’t find the search phrase to fix this. Anyways, this was it. My leg is moving better and I can walk without feeling like that muscle is going to cave in or something painful.

[@JorgeTorres-ru6jm]

Can you use a Swedish hand massager on that?

[@kathryndunworth4070]

Just in time. I had a total knee replacement and this pain has bedridden me for two days. Thanks!

[@anthonywalsh2164]

Brilliant. Just what was needed.

[@tinas977]

Love you both. Thx for continuing your videos….I need this right now!

[@marthadyke2472]

Thank you I had a TKR last October and this is a new development I’m going to start rubbing it.

[@julianadonzelli5740]

You are the best, guys. (Bob, you are doing great). Thanks for the video.

[@georgewha3691]

This channel, these guys are so great♥️♥️ I always look Them up when I Got problems with my body due to sports 😅

[@niseyk2381]

How can you tell if it’s this or a Baker’s cyst?

[@joseenoel8093]

I have one, MRI confirmed it but therapist brushed it off, guess least of my problems (perhaps) but still I think it's gross!

[@p-millz]

You're the man Bob .

[@dianekulback2430]

Very helpful video! Thanks Guys!

[@rohanawolf2089]

We love you both always!

[@tiffanyvalencia8415]

I use my opposite knee cap to massage this muscle

[@Keep-on-ok]

I know I can always depend on you guys.

[@ParveenKumar-ek7uf]

Thank you, exactly had pain back side muscle, winter time. 🎉🎉 good Tips. Super Sir.

[@BobandBrad]

Great to hear!

[@lisah6076]

Thanks for the information guys 👍

[@debbiesirois6643]

Good information to know. Thank you.

[@HawaiiPaperCo]

Thanks, guys, this helps my hubby! Aloha!

[@debbieptcable]

Hope your good Bob

[@simplebear-onabreak3868]

Hi I was watching this and I’m a kid I’m 9 I have arthritis and I have knee pains so badly that it hurts to walk and I think this helps my dad thinks it’s food but it might be but now I know that sometimes it can be a muscle

[@user-vm6oz6wt5g]

The back of my knee has bothered me for years. It's not pain, it's a tightness?? That being said it did start after a round of acupuncture and the guy went to deep on the UB40 point and hit the nerve. Idk if its nerve damage or what. But what I have been doing is put a squishy ball on the medial aspect of my knee and I feel like it might be ready to release soon. Hope so. My right knee is internally rotated so I'm trying to counteract that.

[@sonjawells4265]

Bob sounds great!

[@jbug884]

It’s like visiting the old folks home and daring to ask a question. 3 hours later! 😂 Only kidding! Great video guys 👍

[@ItsJager]

Popliteus is it you? One of many questions as I go through all the tests. 🤫

[@snoodlegirl1794]

I had weird fall in kitchen and that muscle has hurt so much for three weeks. Knee brace helps some

[@1970FLcrkr]

Please do a video on wrist tendon bursitis. The burning is aweful!

[@mstreds]

Yes

[@User11495]

I hurt the backside of my knee. because i tried a new stretching exercise too hard. It Hurts when i go down in squat position only. Feels like i need too pop it. Anyone know What i could do too fix it?

[@glennhalila8279]

My problem is that I'm getting knots in the calf muscles. Occasionally I will get pain behind the knee. I'm supposed to get a Total Knee Replacement. I have Arthritis in my left knee and a torn meniscus. It hurts to walk now, so I have to walk slowly to get somewhere

[@Indylimburg]

I think my popliteus muscles are weak or laxed and causing knee stability issues.

[@hobomobile]

Also a common strain that takes place for rock climbers when performing heel hooks at wacky angles

[@rukhsanaakhter9613]

Is it a baker's cyst

[@BobandBrad]

Thanks for watching! Answered this in your previous comment!

[@christinewaide5249]

Ok. I have a back of knee question. Is that the same muscle that bunches up behind my knee? Or would that be a different muscle?

[@Ryan-gv7gy]

Why is it as physical therapist you have not adopted the 0 drop minimum style shoe?

[@reanndonaghy1433]

I get Charlie horses in my calf all the time

[@kimberlygibbons2326]

You guys Rock!

[@AyazKhan-zd2xe]

I have back of the knee pain and I just can't find where is it coming from the muscle you guys are talking about is probably popliteus muscle I get pain when I extend my shin especially when I'm laying down and I lift my leg and then try to extend my shin straight it hurts but I just can't find the tenderness