Is This The Best Inverter For RVing. Multiplus 2x120 24 volt.

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Today I wanted to share the information you might need if you were looking for an inverter for RVing. This 24V option might be the best pick if you are thinking of wanting to make a bigger system in the future.
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[@kavitadeva]

Hi Jarred, I am a single woman full timing for many years. Every time I watch You are videos I am so impressed by how much knowledge and understanding and the ability to work with your hands and fix things you have. As for me I never understand anything you talk about, Especially today. I am so embarrassed by that fact but it is what it is. I am an artist and I was a dancer, I wasn't a mechanic nor do I understand anything about electricity volts amps anything. My question for you Jarred is, in all the years I did this in a 25 foot Itasca class C motor home. I never put on solar all I had to do was one time an electrician at a campground where I was hosting looked at what I will call the control panel and he said well no wonder you can't keep your batteries high, this RV is called a park Model. And you are using it all the time. So, this board is meant for like weekends and not using it quite often. so I went to the guy that works on my rig and he told me what you have is a 32 amp I think he said amp I don't know control panel. We're going to put in a hefty 55 amp board and that will change things so your batteries don't keep losing the power. Anyways I had that put in and problem fixed. So, I have never understood why people get so involved in all these different things when I did this for approximately 20 years and I never had problems. I didn't have solar, I just every other day ran the generator for a few hours that was it. And I was boondocking 80% of the time. I don't know what I have missed out on by not doing all these things but it never was a problem. Oh yeah, I bought a 600 watt power pack. I have no idea if that is the actual name. I loved it. Jarred, why are all these things necessary? By the way, although I don't understand what you're saying I love your videos! Thank you so much.

[@DriverDean]

To answer your question...all of these things are not necessary, just run your generator a bit every day or two to recharge your system and u are good, unless you have a specific lengthy high power need every day. You can also just run your generator morewhen u are boondocking where there are no night time noise restrictions, and for the cost of this type of setup you can run your generator for along time at 3-4 dollars a gallon for gas

[@kavitadeva]

@@DriverDean hey there, Thank you for the validation. You helped me realize my simplistic ways are not WRONG. I DO Appreciate your reply. Happy Trails.

[@ayeartovolunteer]

Hi@@kavitadeva. For you, as @DriverDean mentioned, simplicity is oftentimes better. You're used to it and it works for you. For us, we run a full-time business and nonprofit and so our power demand is high. We can absolutely just run our generator to keep 110V on all the time but that can be excessive. We have a Class A motorhome with a lot of solar and a big bank of lithium and that helps us when boondocking so we are greener and can keep our generator use low. Safe travels!

[@ayeartovolunteer]

Thanks for this - for two reasons. First, our SPS is giving up and now that AM Solar is out of business (from what I can see), it's time to swap out my Multiplus 24/3000/70 with the Multiplus II 24/3000/70. The form factor is narrower and longer but I can work on that. Second, I was trying to explain voltage and amps and why we were a 24v system, this helps reinforce was I was saying to my wife. Thanks again and safe travels.

[@scrub175]

This video is light years ahead of general camping set ups. Folks will look back at this video as the foundational reference of how to set up a proper 12/24v system in an RV. Excellent work.

[@paulroesner]

I’d have to agree. We just went live with ours, 99% the same here, and we love it. This is a game changer with power assist feature and true 50amp power to a 50amp coach. It feels like we’re plugged in wherever we go.

[@sreimert]

I've been following you channel for a little while now and as it happens, I'm planning to install an inverter setup in my 5th-wheel, but I wanted a 24v set up. Lo and behold, you publish a complete guide with diagrams and parts list for the entire project!! Your channel is a GOLD MINE!

[@andrewfidel2220]

If you put a battery on the 12V side you don't need 70A, just buy a cheap golf cart style 12V stepdown converter, they're less than $20 and can keep up with lights/water pumps/etc easily enough and your big 12V load amps like the slides or levelers can be handled by the battery that gets recharged over time.

[@ElMistroFeroz]

$20? Why not pay top dollar instead for that victron dc/dc? Or those overpriced enduros? I’m telling ya these youtubers have it made with all that free stuff.

[@haskellcrow3524]

So my RV already has a la battery and converter in the panel. Just leave it in and wire the victron for the split phase only? (This was my original plan, so I'm looking for confirmation or otherwise.)

[@Electronzap]

Good tips. I definitely like the idea of storing a lot of power at 48V, and then branching that out to buck converters as needed to power lower voltage devices.

[@MitchOfCanada]

having a standalone 12v 100ah battery that is just charged up by the 24V system (via a charger on Timer or manual) is a much smarter system. Redundancy, and then when you need to service the 24v/120v supply. you still maintain 12v operations/fridge/slider etc. and you can run a smaller 12v inverter on that battery. Add a 150-300watt panel for the 12V RV battery and you are really setup for anything. If you ONLY have 24V batteries and something goes wrong, you have no way to power the 12V no your trailer unless you jump it from a vehicle or help someone out with a bunk 12v

[@JJ-Journeys]

Great Video Jared, but your killing me!! I just added the same solar setup from your 12volt system in our RV and now you come out with the 24 volt setup. My wife will kill me if I tell her “time to upgrade to the 24 volt setup”. 😂😂😂. We are super happy with our 12 volt setup. Maybe if we upgrade the RV we’d look at the 24 volt system. Safe Travels and keep the videos rolling, Jim Andreas

[@yetiatlarge555]

Agreed, were upgrading our 12V system incrementally

[@The_Good_Life_starts_today]

Excellent overview. The production quality of your videos get better each time. Thanks!

[@SEANRMZ]

Love mine system. I have the same set up as your 5th wheel. Power assist with a 2k gen, running the ac and sending some left over volts to the battery bank is nuts! Thanks for your vids

[@AllAboutRVs]

👍🏼

[@mgkleym]

Imo there is only one reason to go with the 24 volt version of the 2x120 multi plus. They don't make a 48 volt version currently. 24 volt is something of an unhappy middle ground between 12 and 48 volts. You have all of the downsides of 48 volts in terms of the added complexity and expense of needing a DC buck converter and potentially a boost converter for alternator charging and only half the benefit in terms of reduced amperage and increased solar charge controller capacity.

[@wi4usa]

Why do you need a buck converter. Just use the 120VAC to 12 VDC converter that came in your breaker box. This mean you have to maintain two voltages of batteries, but I am ok with that. I am running two 48V quattro 5000's.

[@mgkleym]

@@wi4usa Efficiency and its cheaper long term than replacing a 12 volt lead acid battery every 5 years. Although I guess money is less of a concern for you given your inverters cost more than the entire system I'm currently putting together.

[@jonathanowens2337]

Eh, the marine and bus standard has been 24V for decades, it's not that bad. Widespread 48V mobile adoption is going to take a long time.

[@vastirvision]

they do make a 48V version of the Multiplus II.

[@mgkleym]

@@vastirvision Yes but not in the 2x120 variant.

[@stevencote7118]

Excellent video. Clearly very knowledgeable and intelligent speaker. I will follow this speaker video's. Thanks again Steven Cote

[@paulroesner]

Good video. We have the same inverter. Just installed recently, and now living off it since last weekend. Ever notice fish-tank-like-hum from the transformer, or horrible fan noises? We are on firmware 506, but 508 is available.

[@cris_miko]

Good info. Anytime you can utilize a higher voltage without a lot of cost associated with step down conversion you will come out ahead.

[@AllAboutRVs]

Thanks.

[@herb7877]

EXCELLENT material & install. Although my system is much, much smaller (today) I just may follow this install in my rig in the future. ... THANK YOU !

[@billystroud7551]

Always great content and thank you for all the hard work. Small question though on the Orion DC to DC inverter. If the RV has a 12 volt converter already couldn't that supply the necessary 12Vdc for the lights fridge etc?

[@Goandgetit00]

I totally agree with your video and thank you very much, and my mattress I like to be a little springy.

[@DennisWintjes2]

What is your other "favorite" inverter? I have a 48V EG4 battery, do you think they will create a 2x120 48v? Thanks for sharing. Like 197

[@richpetrelli2783]

Hi Jarred. Great videos! Where did you put the chassis ground cable, on the Lynx shunt negative terminal or on the Lynx distributor negative terminator?

[@jmac1099]

Definitely a nice install. They are pricey but they have some great benefits, the idle consumption being one of the biggest. How much loss is on that dc to dc convertor? I did like that you had a range for each voltage, i think that's helpful. But 2 things, I think id put that 12v disconnect before the dc to dc convertor, and you need to cut your zip ties better... haha i saw those wrist slitters right away! Great video as always.

[@Infectedsin]

Can we talk about the Quattro? How is the Quattro not a better option?

[@MagentaRV]

I'm still looking for a 24V DC 7.5K-10K inverter/charger that outputs split phase 240/120V AC and can charge on 120 or 240V AC. I've looked through all of the products I can find from multiple manufacturers, and haven't found anything like this yet.

[@Trevathecleva82]

PS, at 10kv why wouldn't you go 48v? Otherwise I think your conductors are going to glow. Just saying..

[@MagentaRV]

@@Trevathecleva82 physical space limitation. I have room for two 12V batteries, not four.

[@ArthriticAngler]

A lot more RV and Marine appliances, pumps etc are available at 12/24 vs switching to 48

[@Trevathecleva82]

Victron makes a DC/DC 48/12 to solve this issue. There are other brands too.

[@jonathanowens2337]

Yes.

[@jesserevilla992]

I’m going with EcoFlow System. I find your setup in the near future to be a thing of the past. Don’t get me wrong you did what worked for you at the time. But when I switch out TT’s I’ll be able to pick up my system in a heart beat and move on. All those connections and additional cost and either your technically inclined as you and not me; or you pay someone to set that all up.. No Thanks .. my $6k system will have just as much power as your with a Hybrid Inverter.

[@AllAboutRVs]

I did a video on the Delta Pro. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn3GdIhobtecjacsi=zbg13NbmdCc3SN_Y It is very easy and simple when swapping RVs or using it at home but I they have a ways to go before it can do everything the Victron setup can do. EcoFlow is my first pick in the portable setup systems they do a good job and are still working out the details. I have updates often for their units.

[@henrymorgan3982]

Thanks for giving us mere mortals such good information! Aloha!

[@tombouie]

Thks & simple questions; ??Can it also push/sell excess solar PV energy back into the grid too??

[@AllAboutRVs]

No it can’t. It will not back feed

[@timothyculliver1993]

Great Job, explained very clear. Thanks

[@airstreamer]

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and information.

[@AllAboutRVs]

My pleasure!

[@davidshowman9296]

Thoughts on the EcoFlow power kits? Seems a lot simpler.

[@AllAboutRVs]

Good question. I did a review on the Power Kit and agree it is more simple but I would pick this any day over the Power Kit. The AC/Heat pump I used in the test for amps was no problem for the Multiplus and the Power Kit struggles and takes 5-6 times of trying before it can start it. It has enough headroom and within the specs but it doesn’t deliver well on in rush when it’s the only thing drawing AC. The power kit also has no power assist which limits when you would use it and only accepts one hot leg, so it’s not good for tying it into a 50 amp RV. It might be fun to do a comparison between the two. I do like Eco Flow out of all the “power station”(and more) companies but the Multiplus II lands the win for me.

[@grg2106]

Thank you for another great informational video! Do you happen to know if these can be installed horizontally?

[@AllAboutRVs]

Yes you can! The cooling fans work better being installed vertically.

[@timvirga1770]

I've been an subscriber to your channel for years I really enjoy our videos and find them very helpful, I have a 2018 Grand Design 303 fifth wheel that I need to replace the batteries on and I'm considering going with Lithium batteries and changing my converter to an inverter. Which inverter and lithium battery would you recommend and is the easiest to install, I don't plan on putting solar system in my fifth wheel. Thanks Much

[@ItsEverythingElse]

What app do you use to generate your wiring diagrams?

[@gmercede]

Following

[@timf6916]

Good job. A lot of information.

[@user-wy8pk8qq5l]

Can I use the MultiPlus II 2x120 24volt on my 30 Amp trailer ? And up grade to a larger 50 Amp trailer 24volt in the future?

[@Trevathecleva82]

Do the built in roof AC units on 50amp RV operate off this 2x120 or do they need true split phase?

[@derail412]

Hi Jared, thanks for the excellent video. I am debating 12/24v system for my Class A camper. The big question I have is it worth the cost of 2 dc/dc converters? I also have my chassis batteries tied to the house batteries. I like the idea of charging my house batteries with my alternator while in motion. Do you have any suggestions?

[@derail412]

found the info in your shared diagram. DC/DC charger 12/24 - Thanks for the excellent information

[@kurtmcclelland1086]

0:44 just curious, where does the 300 amp T fuse go in the system?

[@Trevathecleva82]

Close to the battery positive before anything else.

[@scottlampkin180]

Looking at the Victron inverter for my 50 amp rv. needing a dual 120 output, this seems to do everything I need except the wattage. 3000 watts seems like it isn't going to run both ac units. I see Victron makes a 5000 watt output unit, but is it dual 120 volt as well?

[@Trevathecleva82]

Only if it says 2x120 or split phase. Be careful because there are different ones.

[@atracamoniusvlogs]

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[@davidpatrick1813]

I have been trying to find how to up my 12V Multiplus 400 ah batteries to 800 .. all 100 Ah .. hind sight maybe .. or find a different use for the 212 and get the 24

[@caseypries7559]

You don't think running a converter is a negative until it fails and you can't pull in your slides or retract your landing gear. You also waste energy converting 24v to 12v because no converter is 100% efficient. I see more headaches than advantages when paired with a vehicle that so heavily depends on 12V. I'd rather spend the extra on wiring and lower the complication of my system.

[@AllAboutRVs]

I love our 12v system on our RV and sticking with it but do see where this has a few advantages over ours. With the 12v battery on board that would minimize the risk of getting stuck with a failure and you could even leave your original converter in the RV power center and have it unplugged but ready as a back up if ever needed. I agree no converter is 100% but the 24-12 Orion should be more efficient than using the original converter on your RV and there won’t be a massive amount of 12v use while using the RV. Most things are a small draw except for setup and tear down.

[@caseypries7559]

@@AllAboutRVs all valid points. I think in the end I just prefer the simplicity of 12V.

[@user-gv3rf4cu7x]

Now if they would include the 24 VDC TO 12 VDC converter inside the Victron Multiplus II 24volt 3000 Watt.

[@AllAboutRVs]

That would be nice and make it no downsides at that time.

[@itsjustthatez4275]

Unrelated, I was looking for what tpms you use. Couldnt find in your links if you can send me the video you may have mentioned it in. Thanks

[@AllAboutRVs]

There should be a link for it in this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmrLd4Rumap6a6csi=eKRpMQFZW0xxxcgU

[@marka9083]

I'm looking at a similar system, just a little larger with dual inverters. The question I have is 2 orions vs 1 Orion and a Lithium battery. The one concern on the battery is it may get hit with too high of a "charge" current from the Orion - or am I over thinking it?

[@AllAboutRVs]

If your talking about to the 24-12 conversion I wouldn’t see the need for more than one Orion and you could even do a smaller smart version when using a battery. The battery will handle the larger items like slides and the Orion will charge it back up.

[@NacZach]

For the battery balancing, I'm pretty sure this is only for lithium ion correct?

[@Trevathecleva82]

Yes

[@USNavyAR5]

Maybe if I lived in a RV. At that price point, that's a hard no.

[@timaz1066]

I have the 12 V multiplus II from Victron. Actually, I’m on my second one after a year and a half because of their poor design of spring clamps for the outgoing 120 V. One of mine arced and burned. and burned the output socket. So much for Victron‘s 10 year warranty as they would not cover it. They did refund me $795 against the $1400 cost of the new one so that shows me they are responsible because of this design. Do you or anyone else in the comment section know someone that can convert my old unit to a screw type, clamp output, sockets just like Victron uses on all of their other equipment. Victron sent my original unit back to me without repairing it. Don’t get me wrong. I love all of their equipment, but this one part is a poor design for an RV bouncing down the road.

[@AllAboutRVs]

The push-in on these isn’t my favorite but I would highly recommend ferrules if using a thin stranded wire and make sure they are long enough.

[@OldManandtheSuperC]

Would this require dumping my converter/distribution/breaker/fuse panel?

[@paulroesner]

No. You just line up the AC out of the inverter to you Dist. Box. Then let the AC power distribute as normal

[@Erical65]

Why not jump to a 48volt system?

[@AllAboutRVs]

Good question I thought about addressing. They don’t make this inverter with the 2x120 in the 48volt yet. While 48 is better the bigger you get 24 is great for up to the 6,000 watt range. I have a 48 volt system not on the RV and for the RV I pick the Multiplus II every time for the reliability, expansion and the flexibility of power sources.

[@johnpalmer3848]

One issue being the DC-DC converter options to energize your 12v system are much more limited.

[@gmercede]

Great video Jared. There are more efficiency losses converting from 48VDC to 12VDC vs 24 to 12. So as Jared mentioned the higher voltage is all about sending current to and from your battery and inverter. If you're inverting higher than 6k watts then 48VDC is a good idea, if not then it's maybe not worth it to afford the extra losses in a DC to dc converter. Air conditioner is about 1400 watts after surge. Run two of them plus an occasional microwave simultaneously and you are at about 4k watts. Use as a gauge.

[@fellixx11]

I am in the midst of planning a Victron inverter install but I am struggling with going 24v. I have heard the 24v/12v converters cant handle the inrush current of slides. Any thoughts Jared?

[@jasonwheeler4225]

Install a 12v battery. Save $$ go with cheap LA or spend more on a LIFEPO4 with BT to keep track of SOC. The battery will take the inrush of leveling or slide systems and charge back up over time.

[@Trevathecleva82]

My LiTimes can easily handle 100A discharge rate, it's tough to imagine slide mirrors taking anywhere near that, what are the fuse sizes? My slides don't have large enough wiring to handle that amount of current.

[@tedshantz6193]

nice stuff but i aint won the lottery yet

[@AllAboutRVs]

I hear you, It does get expensive for some of the larger systems.

[@oneeyedphotographer]

Way too much waffle, way too little information about alternatives. I have no concerns about Victron power equipment beyond that it typically has features of no use to me, and a price beyond reasonable for what I do want. Shore power in Australia is much simpler, it might be 10A, it might be 15A. Technically, it could be three phase, but never is. A 10A power cord fits a 15A socket, so unless you need to higher source current you can ignore it.