Is This The BEST Sailboat For The Money? Rare One-Owner GEM of a Tartan 37 for $65,000! Full Tour!

[@Chrylgirl]

We had a 78 for thirty years. It was a great boat. My fave berth was the pilot berth, somewhere around 1982 that changed to bookshelves but I am sure that if you had it built the PB could be included. Those winches are small, we upgraded ours, we raced the boat. It’s not a light air boat but in heavy air we were very comfortable and safe which made it a lot of fun. We raced it hard which led to some minor leaks around the chainplates which was fixed. With a block of ice and a couple bags of cubes we had cold food and drinks for almost a week. Keep tension on the centerboard line, that jammed on us a couple times until we learned! We slept 8 a few times racing and cruising to Maine, no problem but the boat got warm, LOL! It was a great boat, timeless lines, pleasing lines. I think we paid $65k in 1978, had it built in North Carolina. The new owner should be very happy with this boat.

[@boatfools]

Thanks for this! Yes, that pilot berth is cool. We have on the Morgan - the kids love it! Appreciate your comment. And great intel on the centerboard!

[@RobertMorris-wb7nx]

You guys are good. Nail it every time. That Tartan 37 is a real beauty.

[@boatfools]

Thank you, Sir! We appreciate that!

[@davidnichols147]

Happy New Year! This Tartan is a real keeper.

[@boatfools]

Agreed and happy New Year to you and yours!

[@CharlieStrout]

You guys are the best. Another great episode and another great boat. Thanks!

[@boatfools]

Thank you, Charlie!!!

[@patrickhorgan8389]

A shed FULL of gorgeous ⛵️ s 👍👍

[@boatfools]

I could have wandered around in there for days…

[@dennisclapp7527]

Beautiful boat. Thanks for the tour.

[@boatfools]

Our pleasure! And thanks for watching!

[@daijones101]

Magnificent vessel

[@boatfools]

Agreed!

[@bos6782]

That boat is immaculate, wow. Great stuff, beautiful yacht, congratulations on > 15k subscribers

[@boatfools]

Thank you and thank you for helping us get there!

[@Seafariireland]

Great review, great boat!

[@liamegan4303]

Hello from Ireland again, Guys. OMG, I could happily, live in that Shed forever lol. What a Fantastic boat, totally Immaculate, and So well kept, just jump on, and Sail. It's well worth the asking price. Great video again, Guys, like always. 🙏🙏👌👏👏👏👏👏🥰🥰

[@boatfools]

Thank you! Yeah, that shed is filled with some beautiful boats!

[@boatfools]

And, thank you for your comment from all the way from across the pond! Greatly appreciated.

[@walterreil4001]

Gorgeous! Thank you for sharing! No snow yet? 😃

[@boatfools]

We had a quick blast of snow, then it rained and was in the 50s… Thanks for watching!

[@johnrathbun2943]

Beautiful boat.

[@boatfools]

It really is!

[@CharlesETerry]

Love you both, buying this winter and it could be her a great boat!

[@boatfools]

Appreciate that, and let us know what if we can assist in any way! Thanks for watching!

[@patrickfalter4487]

Very nice boat. One of the advantages of an older boat is the hull is usually solid fiberglass. Was surprised that an older Tartan no less used balsa core. Still,I am a sucker for wooden interiors and a nice layout. Thanks guys as usual :)

[@boatfools]

Thanks Patrick! As always, appreciate the feedback and the comment. The interior is really great on this one!

[@todddunn945]

That is a nice boat. It is pristine and spotless. I really like the furling boom. The low hours engine is nice, but Mitsubishi is not a common marine engine brand (yes I know a lot of Westerbekes were built on Mitsubishi blocks), but parts will be hard to find. Also the nearly fresh paint job makes the boat look great. However, the boat does suffer from one ailment. That is pricing it high to try to recover the cost of the upgrades. The issue with that is that old boats have a value. While you can spend a lot on fancy upgrades, it is a tough sell to recover the cost of those upgrades. By that metric, the boat is over priced by at least $15K. I suspect the boat is going to sit on the market for a while.

[@boatfools]

Hard knowing. Tough time of year as well. But, alas, it is only the asking price. It will be interesting to see. I have been blown away by the boats we had profiled and what they have sold for (episode on this is forthcoming). As always, thanks for your insight and comments!

[@todddunn945]

@@boatfools That will be an interesting episode and a useful one to the boat shopper. As far as pricing a boat like that Tartan 37 goes, I understand how hard it is to let go of your baby that you have pampered for many years. You know how much you have invested in the boat and would like to recover that money. However, eventually reality sets in and you realize that you did the upgrades for yourself. Those upgrades will likely make the boat sell when you come to your senses and drop the price to the top of the realistic range for a 42 year old boat.

[@tomregan362]

@@todddunn945What would you consider a reasonable price. I always like to compare boat prices with cars. What would you rather have a T37 or a used Mercedes?

[@vykaart6009]

It's worth every penny for those who are in love with classic lines but don't want to do major work on the boat like repainting, engine swap, fixing mouldy, wet interior...etc. .. and got the $

[@todddunn945]

@@tomregan362 I don't do cars. If I did I certainly wouldn't compare an old Tartan to a Mercedes. It is more like a Buick or Mercury. What is a 1982 Buick in good cosmetic condition and low mileage worth? I think that the boat might sell if the asking price was $50K. The owner might walk away with $40K. As I said, things like paint and the in-boom main sail furling will make the boat sell, but recovering the cost of those things is not realistic. Also, as I said the low hours (not even close to new) engine is a plus, but the brand is a minus (how many Mitsubishi marine engine dealers do you know of. Personally I know of zero. A google search shows that Mitsubishi now sells 400-1,500 hp marine diesels. So good luck finding the marinization parts for this small engine. One other thing about the engine. Really low hours on a 20 year old engine is actually worse from the perspective of the long term life of the engine than say 4-5 times the hours would be. This engine was likely almost never run up to full operating temperature, which is a bad thing.

[@tarivard]

She has been meticulously maintained - that is obvious. I owned a 33 for 8 years. Great boats.

[@boatfools]

The 33 is an awesome boat!

[@dennishager1665]

T37s hold up very well with routine maintenance. Water intrusion in the cores deck not generally a problem unless you drill holes in the deck for accessories and don’t seal the holes. Rigging is oversized by design and quite rugged. Still one of the best all around performance cruisers of all time in my opinion and at $50-60k a great value compared to today’s floating cocktail lounges that do far better at the dock than on the ocean or bay.

[@boatfools]

Agreed 100%! Thanks for watching and for your comments!

[@jbl7092]

Nice layout. Very different from all the rest. Good video. Thanks 👍

[@boatfools]

Appreciate it!

[@MidnightMaker]

I lived aboard and ran a sailboat charter company in the USVI on a Tartan 37.

[@boatfools]

Fantastic! I reckon you had a lot of fun…

[@franklynett3479]

The owner has obviously taken exceptional care of her and at his/her current stage of life has said it's now time to let her go to a new deserving owner. I know that feeling all too well. Speaking from personal experience with my former '89 Catalina 30, caring for all those interior wood surfaces and especially refinishing the exterior brightwork commanded countless hours of work spent at the dock each season while everyone else was out sailing. This is my only caveat about owning this beauty.

[@boatfools]

Fair comment. Up here in Maine, we have the off season to tend to those issues - primarily in spring. A mad dash to get in all done before launch! It's all part of the charm. But, yes, it does take work and effort - no doubt about it! Thanks for watching!

[@driftingsoul4824]

New to the channel great chemistry with both you guy. Informative video very easy to watch and enjoy ..beautiful boat gave me some idea for my 57 foot samson sealord

[@boatfools]

Thanks for finding us and thanks for watching! I am not familiar with the Samson Sealord. Sounds like a big bluewater sailboat!

[@driftingsoul4824]

@boatfools she a very large well built ferrocement blue water sailor. These sail boat get a bad reputation because lot of them were home built . I was lucky to find one that was built by a professional boat builder who built 5 of these . All 5 are still operational to this day since 1987 ... this sailing boat Cross the Atlantic 3 times from uk to Caribbean and USA also sail from uk to New Zealand . so handle the rough weather really well weighing in at 27 ton with full keel she comfortable not too slow . also Powered by 120Hp mermaid engine .. Thanks for your interaction

[@stanwalls6434]

Thanks guys⚓️❤️

[@boatfools]

You’re welcome!

[@bens_light]

More boat reviews in this price range please. An actively cooled fridge would be nice 😅

[@boatfools]

Working on it! Thanks for watching and thank you for your comments!

[@mhub3576]

One of my favorite S&S designs. Not enough headroom for me, though, as I'm 6' 2.5" to be exact. 😢 You guys might consider having a tape measure so you can measure headroom, settee length and width, and V berth dimensions. I'm constantly astounded how this important information is often difficult or impossible to find for most vessels.

[@boatfools]

This is a great idea and will try to remember to take one on our next adventure. Appreciate the comment and feedback!

[@yachtman45inc]

you guys are a hoot! and good!

[@boatfools]

Why thank you! We appreciate that and thanks for watching!

[@CanadianKenME]

Many Thanks - we try to keep it light and informative

[@davidwhite6617]

Im looking for a boat to sail in my old stompin grounds in Newfoundland and take to the Carribean in the winter. And the name is Perfect.

[@boatfools]

Haha! This is pretty close. Add some refrigeration, solar, and off you go…

[@ryanraynor3248]

Outstanding condition. I didn't hear if he said it has a furler but If the sails look like the rest of the boat its a grad slam.

[@boatfools]

Yes, furling genoa. We didn’t see the sails but I would imagine they’re in serviceable condition, as they say. Sweet, sweet boat. Thanks for watching!

[@DavidBolles56]

Absolutely beautiful. Time to cash in the 401k.

[@boatfools]

Ha! Throw your caution to the wind (but maybe consult with your financial advisor first!)!

[@nickpitera7891]

Great episode. Great boat. Some lucky salty dog is going to get a beautiful classic S&S boat with the pedigree of Tartan quality build at a good price stored indoors, sailed only about 4 months / year. The engine is not even broken in which is at least a $20k upgrade ! I’m biased. My T37 came from Maine, well taken care for too. Cheers, Nick. S/V Angela Mia T37 #336 Lake Superior. PS.. I think the boat to port is a Cape George 36(?).

[@boatfools]

Thanks for your comment! Agreed! I think the boat to port is too big to be a Cape George 36, but I’m not entirely sure. All I know is that she sure is a pretty boat! Thanks for watching!

[@nodogrunner]

I have to say I like last week's Pearson 35 for the money over this boat. But hey I don't have a boat so I really like both boats better than the one I don't have.

[@boatfools]

Haha! Well, I have to say that Pearson was pretty darn sweet and it sold fast!

[@bernardlachance7484]

Don't forget the Tartan 34c-- another S&S design. I had hull number 172.

[@boatfools]

Love the 34C! We profiled one a few months ago. Sold in a hot second. Thanks for watching!

[@SD-wo5ru]

Mitsubishi Engine are GREAT! they are real workhorses , the only issue is if you are cruising Long Haul i.e. other countries besides SE Asia, Parts are an issue . Make sure you bring spare parts with you ! : )

[@boatfools]

Excellent insight! Thank you and thanks for watching!

[@davidprocter3578]

Had a leak in the port chainplates , stain in bulkhead dead give away. has this been properly fixed?? I assume deck is cored so most likely water ingress in super structure on port side was this dealt with ?? Does have one advantage that I can see no modern anode eating electrical system, who wants to replace anodes every six months ??? I am a fan of boom roller reefing not so much of internal but it would do , but as everyone knows boom reefing stretches main sails. It would be worth checking the mainsail , speaking of sails does the old suit of sails come with ?? At that price I would hope so. You did not mention the core material can we assume balsa ???? or if the center board has been recently re rigged. Other things to check on a boat this age when was the last time the mast was serviced and rivets replaced same goes for standing rigging, running rigging too . Always remember a boats true value is not in pretty paint jobs or lavish interiors it lies in the quality of it's hull.

[@boatfools]

Yes, comes with a full suite of sails and a spinnaker that has never been used. As we always mention, a prospective buyer, when they are relatively certain they love the boat, should always get a survey. Between the surveyor, the one-owner knowledge, the leak issues can be figured out (if it’s been corrected or not). The core is balsa. This model Tartan has cored decks and parts of the hull are also cored. Thanks for watching!

[@dap777754]

Very nice coastal sailer, for a couple. I mean, if you can live with 37 feet overall. I'd take the Hinckley myself, but that ain't gonna happen for $65,000. Good batteries and charger required if that windlass and winches are electric. Radar on mast? -didn't see it.

[@boatfools]

I actually don’t believe she has radar, but I know the GPS will accommodate radar overlay, etc, and it’s NMEA 2000 compatible and would probably work great with an 18” HD Garmin radar system. Basically plug and play.

[@ThriftShopOperator]

"cause hes a little more portly" That has to be inducted into the das joke hall of fame.

[@boatfools]

Canadian Ken was pretty happy with himself for that one!

[@robertscholz4486]

WOW! An absolutely beautiful boat!!! I'm awestruck with this one, but the price is pretty steep ... i wonder if there are any financing options available. I could really see myself out and about on this one ... We can always hope that the sellers are flexible on the sale conditions --- lenders certainly don't help the used boat market today!!!

[@boatfools]

Robert! Yes. Higher price, for sure. But, alas, it is just the asking price. Re: financing. Everyone’s situation is different, so it’s had to suggest one particular idea. But definitely start with your local bank and explore options so when the right boat appears, you’ll know what you’re up against - like getting pre-qualified to buy a house. For us, we got a small commercial loan through our business. Other folks I know got a small line of credit through their local bank; others a traditional loan - as if they were buying a car.

[@AwsomeLifeofBrian]

What about insurance? How much for storage until April? Then, Marinas and mooring areas have waitlists! Does it come with a mooring is the big question!

[@boatfools]

Insurance won’t be a problem. Can readily be picked up through State Farm, Progressive, or Berkley One. A sailing resume will definitely help. And you’ll likely need a survey, though we didn’t on our 1980 Morgan. Storage through spring can be negotiated, I am sure. Moorings, etc.: yes, if one is buying a boat, one must have figured this out ahead of time otherwise you just bought a very expensive piece of yard art… Thanks for watching!

[@dennishager1665]

I pay $500/yr through Progressive for my 82 T37, no survey required

[@boatfools]

@@dennishager1665 excellent intel. Thank you for sharing.

[@markh1739]

Oh man, the "portly" comment is so good.

[@boatfools]

Mark!!! He caught me off guard with that one…

[@LarryPalmer-y6n]

Did the boat have a keel trim tab??

[@boatfools]

No sir. At least not that I am aware of!

[@jessefalsone1247]

@LarryPalmer-y6n there's a void at the back of the keel grafted onto the lead portion. Sometimes that seam can show through the fairing. Not an issue unless it cracks.

[@nodogrunner]

Wait, more subscribers means more competition for the boat you recommend and a higher price for me when I buy one. Can you see my quandary? I guess we are all boat fools at the end of the day.

[@boatfools]

This is a problem!

[@mrpeepers541]

Beautiful boat, great design and quality, I'd love to own it. But 65k for a a 42 year old is high.

[@jimw4732]

Way too much! No real updates.

[@vykaart6009]

@@jimw4732 That engine probably was 10k, and the winches another few..

[@boatfools]

Me too! Re price: market will determine what is right. Remember, $65k is just the asking price...

[@skyak4493]

I would take issue with your reasoning. The age of the boat is less important than the cost to get the boat reliably on the water with good performance and reasonable maintenance. This boat looks to need nothing but standard season commissioning and this is a rare case of a 42yr old design that performs as well or better than new. At $65k this is cheaper than many similar sized boats you could get “free”.

[@nodogrunner]

What is the average age of ownership? I have my retirement plotted out and plan on owning one for about 8 yr.

[@boatfools]

It’s a good question! I’m sure it runs the spectrum!

[@billsmith5593]

I use Johansson for varnish. They installed awl wood on my H42. Older boats are much better built and withstand the test of time.

[@boatfools]

They appear to do very nice work over there! Yep - agree with your comment! Thanks for watching.

[@falconquest2068]

It's obviously a nice boat that has been well maintained. Not so sure about the Mit engine just because it's unconventional. One issue I have with Tartans is the headroom. I'm 6'4" so 6'2" in the main salon does not cut it for me. I can stand up fully in my C&C without a problem. Also, while there are lots of nice upgrades (paint, engine electric winches) $65,000.00 and no refrigeration? Seriously?

[@boatfools]

As I mentioned to someone else, I believe the boat was used mostly for day sails, weekend trips, and perhaps some limited coastal cruising in Maine. With a well-insulated ice box, two blocks of ice and a bag or two of crushed ice will last days. So it was never needed. Obviously, if longer excursions are on tap, then refrigeration would be ideal. Not a major upgrade. Yeah, 6’4” won’t play well with 6’2” headroom!

[@dennishager1665]

Original W33 used a Mitsubishi block. Parts still readily available and I suspect a replacement short or long block would be a drop in replacement without having to rebuild or modify the pan.

[@tomregan362]

Nice boat, but I would much rather have the awesome and older T41 (in the same condition). Only 80 or so built even fewer with the optional deep keel and tall rig. Goes through head seas and to weather with a vengeance. Victory at Sea!

[@boatfools]

Those 41s are super cool. Definitely hard to find!

[@paulvr3158]

they should put a shelf up around the building and rent it out for our ashes!!

[@boatfools]

Haha! Right!?!

[@johnnylightning1491]

Whether or not your wife will get you that boat for Christmas depends on just how much she really loves you, and of course your bank account or her credit rating. Best of luck. Ken, listen to Red Green and keep your stick on the ice. Keep the good stuff coming guys.

[@todddunn945]

If you can't write a check for it, you can't afford it.

[@boatfools]

Her credit rating is better than my bank account… Red Green: aces. So funny!

[@jessefalsone1247]

22:11 Hull is not fully cored. There are cored panels fore and aft. Deck core saturation is the big issue on the T37. Why does one owner make any difference? A newer owner might have replaced the sails, the electronics (the ones on the boat looked 20 years old), added refrigeration, replaced cushions, and a host of other things. How was the canvas? That's a big ticket item. Sorry, he's not going to get anywhere near $65K based on what I know of the Tartan 37 market and having sold one last spring that was far better equipped. Newer engine, furling boom, nice topsides are great but only go so far.

[@boatfools]

IMO a one owner boat that has been maintained is fantastic, just as buying a used one owner car has its benefits. This particular Tartan was clearly loved. The cushions have all been updated over the years (inside and out), the GPS is only 9 years old (and while not new, it works just fine), and the sails are from 2014. They are not new, but used lightly in Maine summers. Since the boat doesn’t have refrigeration, my guess is the boat was primarily used for day sails and weekend adventures with some longer coastal cruises here and there. The low engine hours would support this assumption. For this type of sailing, a couple of blocks of ice, and a bag or two of cubed ice, would be more than sufficient up here in Maine. So, in short, there was no dyer need for refrigeration. And that is not a huge ticket item to add if one wanted to. As for the dodger, we didn’t see it. So I can’t comment on that or the sail cover. A one-owner boat in this condition, and stored indoors, means the owner loved it, maintained it, and knows every thing there is to know about it, from her quirks, to which point of sail is her favorite. To me, that’s worth is weight in gold. There are few, in any, mysteries needed to be solved. Decks and hull: yes. We definitely made it clear to get a survey. Appreciate your comment and thanks for watching.

[@jessefalsone1247]

@@boatfools The "no mysteries" comment is, well, foolish thinking and I'm saying so because someone watching your video and reading this thread should be wary of such a comment that makes you sound more like a yacht broker than an honest reviewer (no offense). At a minimum, here's what any potential T37 owner should be checking: decks (esp around chainplates and stanchions), CB hardware incl thru hull/hose front of keel, CB structure integrity, electrical (has the 40+ year old wiring and fusing been updated at a minimum?), rudder (all get wet but structural integrity doesn't degrade immediately), rudder hardware, Edson steering gear / wire & chain, port side hull dimple caused by forward chainplate gusset point loading, age of standing rigging, water tanks crack and need to be replaced, fuel tank corrodes in fwd corner. These are "standard" issues on the T37, all well-documented. The Tartan 37 is an exceptional boat for coastal and even distance cruising. It does everything well. The hull and rig are solid in design and construction. The gelcoat quality is excellent, it's a great sailing boat and easy to singlehand. In my view, this boat seems to be a really good starting point for someone wanting to either day sail or as a base boat to upgrade into a proper distance cruising boat. Don't count on a surveyor to know or uncover the issues I've discussed above.

[@Ranchpig67]

@@jessefalsone1247 Thanks for your comment. Not sure why so many people keep gushing over these trash boats. This one doesn't even look like it's been maintained as much as it looks like it just wasn't used very much. 20hours a year on the engine is really very little. So it was probably a weekender or just day sailer. The other issue is that boats of this sort do actually start to fall apart. Even if it's lightly used, the rigging will fail, the fiberglass and decking will fail, metal, tubing, wiring... all due to fail. Especially if you're thinking of extended cruising to say the Caribbean. So you're looking at massive replacement costs which are ridiculously expensive right now. Best to skip these antiques and look for something way newer. For that kind of money there are a TON of better options.

[@boatfools]

@@jessefalsone1247 your comments are proving my point. Having had one owner, especially one who has apparently cared for the boat, there will likely be a treasure trove of documentation of work done to the boat over the years (if any). This information is not necessarily available to a buyer of a boat that has been passed around over the years to multiple owners. So, my point is: all things being equal, a one-owner boat in good condition is a lot more intriguing to me than a boat that has had three or more owners, which is typical for a 42 yr old boat. I am NOT saying that the Tartan definitely comes with all of this documentation, I am suggesting that it might. I also stated several times to get a survey - that is non-negotiable in my book, regardless of what any owner or broker tells you.

[@jessefalsone1247]

@@boatfools Unless this owner has verifiable proof that they have addressed all of the typical T37 issues that I have enumerated, the owner is likely blowing smoke. Surveys are fallible and I sadly have first hand knowledge of this fact. Most surveyors aren't experts on the boat they are surveying and they spend a very limited amount of time aboard. An owner for 42 years IS the expert, and unless they have documented the repairs AND shared them with you, buyers should carefully inspect themselves and then advise the surveyor to inspect these areas as well if they even make an offer. Regardless, I'm an expert in Tartan 37's having had one in my family for 32 years and having spent 4 years on an $80K DIY refit. I also consider myself a T37 market expert having sold the boat myself this year. This boat looks nice cosmetically but it's not worth $65K. Look at the comps and look at what's now on the market. There's one with a furling boom that came back on the market recently for a greatly reduced price. FWIW, I think your channel would be well-served to stop being pure cheerleaders and take a more circumspect stance on old boats because people want and some need to trust your judgement. Just my opinion. I'm commenting for the benefit of this boat's next owner.

[@mookiesurfs]

Nice boat, unless you want to do something like sail upwind.

[@tome584]

Added on video you guys got it right red right on return

[@boatfools]

Ha!

[@walterreil4001]

Have you made a video of beginner weekender sailboats (around 26 +/- feet)?

[@boatfools]

We have! We profiled a Sabre 28, a Contessa 26, a Nor’Sea 27, and several others that have sold. The three I mentioned are still on the market. We also did a round up of a mix of trailer sailers and trailerable boats a while ago. More smaller boats will be forthcoming, too. Thanks for watching!

[@bens_light]

This broker does not list prices on his website. What a shame. 😢😢😢

[@boatfools]

That’s a bummer!

[@cbpaton53]

... how tall is the guy in the red hat ? :)

[@boatfools]

I’m a full 6’1” and change. Plenty of headroom for me!

[@cbpaton53]

... thanks :)

[@TerryLee-c5v]

I wish I could get my house sold.

[@leecowell8165]

No. Ok if you wanna stay coastal however this does NOT sport a full keel nor does it sport a keel mounted rudder. Instead its skeg mounted which means its prone to damage from a grounding or for that matter a playful Orca taking a nice bite out of it! You also cannot careen this boat for cleaning. That means you gotta dry dock it a very expensive endeavor. Yeah and its 37 feet long and those nice dry dock boys charge by the foot. I'd take a 29 foot cape dory over this its full keel and sports a keel mounted rudder it will go anywhere (and a grounding or careen isn't gonna damage it).

[@boatfools]

All fair points, but it all comes down to one’s intended use. I will say, an Orca will likely take a bite out of whatever rudder it chooses…and then maybe wear it as a hat (referencing the recent report of Orcas in the PNW wearing salmon hats…very odd!)

[@pfeif1312]

Neighboring boat; St George Cutter?

[@boatfools]

I’m not sure but I don’t think so. It appeared to be longer than the Tartan we were on. I’ve seen her out sailing and she’s a beauty, though!

[@indeedgrasshopper]

Beautiful boat! Don't have that kind of cash but I don't doubt she's worth it.

[@Rottingboards]

Amazing...you are basically buying a new boat.

[@boatfools]

Yep!

[@thomastaylor6991]

Need to spend ten grand on refrigeration,take fifteen off asking. Now we have a practical price.

[@boatfools]

$10k on refrigeration? I don’t think so, especially if you’re a DIY kind of person… But one could certainly offer $15k off the asking price. One never knows!

[@MarkSperry]

If you could talk them down a bit in price it might be totally worth it. This is clearly a boat where someone else has done the work, so yeah take advantage. You could spend $20k less and still end up spending more to refit a boat to this condition. Especially with the low hours engine and in-boom furling.

[@boatfools]

Someone might be able to. Between negotiating on the price and a survey that might turn up some things, it’s quite possible IMO. Thanks for watching!

[@dmack1827]

Very nice, but as soon as someone buys it, the value of single owner status is gone and along with it, the premium paid.

[@philipmayo4865]

What is it with you folks putting down old sailboats? Seems like the same guys all the time, too. Do you have something against old classic cars too? Do you buy everything new? You never fix anything up? You just automatically throw old things away without trying to re-use them? If true, then why bother watching the channel? These gentlemen are showcasing beautiful used boats to help us non- wealthy folks get out on the water. They're not demanding you buy these boats so why are you arguing with them? I'm a newbie to sailing and appreciate their channel as it gives me hope that I, too can enjoy sailing on my own boat some day. Everyone is different and has different wants and needs and abilities as it applies to sailing. Not everyone needs or can afford a brand new blue water sailboat to cross oceans. We don't need brand new equipment and up to date electronics. We're looking for a boat that floats, has useable sails and can get us on the water. The other things we can fix it as we go along - just like an old classic car: you don't need new paint or tires or a radio to drive and enjoy the wind going through your hair. It's nice to fix something up with your own hands as you come to know every inch of it intimately and it also gives you a feeling of accomplishment. For me, that's part of the fun of it all. Some of you folks really need to think before you type.

[@boatfools]

You are exactly right, sir. Thank you for sharing this comment. I laugh when I read those comments bashing the older boats. It literally is a non-starter of an argument because if we all loved new boats AND could afford them, then I suppose that’s what everyone would buy. It’s just not the case. Should one just buy a new house when their furnace breaks? Or if your transmission on your car goes, do you just toss it and throw down for a new car? And, to your point, there is something special about working on and fixing up a boat (or a car, or an old house, etc.). As I have said before, ease is the new disease. Some folks just don’t like to do anything other than pay to have it done. That’s ok, too, but it’s not for me and not for most of the folks who watch this channel. There’s no better way to learn about boats, systems, etc., than learning to do it yourself. And you can save a lot of money that way, too! Anyway, I could go on for days about this. You get it and that’s awesome. Happy Holidays to you and yours.

[@philipmayo4865]

@boatfools thank you and Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your family! I do get it! I love working on old cars and bikes. Did it for years with my dad. He's had lots of great old classics I've had the pleasure of driving over the years. Heck, my very first car was a 1957 Chevy in 1985! Bought it for $1600 at Carlisle Car Show with my dad and drove it home, fixed it up and drove it in HS (I graduated in 1986) and after. I look forward to more of your great videos showcasing some wonderful used sailboats in 2025! I'm hoping to get a boat next year! My wife and I really hope we can learn to sail somewhere near us. Just difficult being in PA.

[@dawntreader7079]

tartans are slooooooooow. i know bc i had one.

[@robertgold2643]

The height of those coamings is worth $5k alone

[@boatfools]

Agreed!

[@sericnicolas4316]

Les américains ont su faire de beaux est qualitatif voiliers ils faut reconnaître a César ce qui lui est dû 😂😂👍 je ne commenterait pas la société du productivisme pollueurs de l'anti social et de l'individualisme exacerbée 🙂😂

[@rakoblackstar5294]

I really don’t understand why these guys praise this Tartan so much is an old boat with old equipment you would have to spend several thousands of dollars just to get it up to today’s standards.

[@boatfools]

Why do you have to spend that money to get it up to today's standards? What are those standards? Just use the boat as is...unless of course a survey comes back with issues that need attending. However, if you're planning some incredibly long journey then, yes, you might choose to update some things...Otherwise go sailing and love it.

[@dennishager1665]

So many newer/modern boats built to “todays” standards for dockside entertainment I wouldn’t take offshore or feel comfortable in 30+ knots and 8 foot waves. But I wouldn’t hesitate to take a well maintained T37 up or down the West coast (like this one or mine). Frankly all the fancy modern gadgets are just maintenance headaches. What matters most is a stout rig with easily managed sails, a hull that keeps the water out, a rudder that stays attached (not a given with some newer boats), and a skipper who knows how to use the above.

[@rakoblackstar5294]

Still too much money for an old tartan.

[@boatfools]

Hard knowin’ until she sells!