IS THIS THE BREAKDOWN THAT ENDS IT ALL? | HDT RV LIFE

IS THIS THE BREAKDOWN THAT ENDS IT ALL? | HDT RV LIFE
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Join us in this episode where we break our 2016 Volvo VNL780 RV Hauler. This breakdown is pretty bad and we are hoping it won’t mean we have to quit fulltime RV life.
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[@daviscrt]

Main point is no one was hurt. Emergency fund, back on the road. Glad everyone is ok. What a nice guy to help move your rig. Thanks Don

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Don. Yep, so glad to have that emergency fund :) Thanks and Safe Travels

[@robmcneill2967]

In 30 years in the trucking and bus industry never seen a drum break like that unless it was smoking hot. My best guess is that at some point those drums got really hot and got some hair line cracks in them and only God knows why it took them so long to come apart. No one hurt, damage contained the best it could and parts available to fix...all good things. Safe travels.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Rob. I agree with you. So glad its all fixed and it didn't break the bank LOL Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@jestersv6694]

Good to see it was a small fortune and not a break the bank situation. Glad noone but the shock got hurt. Happy trails! Steve

[@JonesN2Travel]

Us too :) Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@industrialexitstrategist2022]

Sorry to hear about the breakdown. Thanks for sharing your adventures. I look forward to hearing more about your next trip.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for checking out the video and for following along. Safe Travels

[@leslie476]

Thank you guy's for this video. We are planning on stepping up to a HDT and the first thing I'm going to have done is not only replacing the brakes at time of purchase I'm going to pay a "lot" extra up front and put new drums on. Everytime I did my brakes on my dually I always put new rotors and drums on anyway.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Leslie. I agree with you and find a good mechanic or do it yourself. The parts for this job, not including that outrageously expensive centrifugal filter and shock mount, was only about $1500. That's 6 drums, 2 sets of brake shoes and 6 shocks. I was pleased that it wasn't more. The entire job including the oil service and everything was only about $4k with labor. I didn't think that was too horrible and it was definitely cheaper than I feared it would be when the incident occurred. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@RVUNDERWAY]

That's tough! Glad you're back on the road. Safe travels, y'all!

[@JonesN2Travel]

So good to be back and now we know we are truly safe in the HDT. Safe Travels

[@BK-dv1hh]

Glad things got fixed and you’re back on the road. “Life is what happens in between our plans!” Be safe

[@JonesN2Travel]

I really like that. Thanks for sharing and thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@astraseeker]

Whoa, we are thankful you guys didn’t suffer an accident. Good coverage on what went wrong. Safe travels.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi guys. We are very thankful that this happened at low speeds and didn't cause major damage. It was bad enough LOL Safe Travels

[@alanstallones8624]

Glad you’re hanging in there! I really enjoy your channel!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thank you so much and thanks for following along! Glad to hear you enjoy our videos. :) Stay safe out there. Safe Travels

[@SuiteTravels]

WOW! Glad you guys are safe and got back on the road. See you soon.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks guys. So glad its all fixed. :) See you soon. Safe Travels

[@elensia7107]

Ugh, sorry you guys had to deal with this. Glad no one got hurt and the HDT could be fixed. Safe travels!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Elen. So glad to be back on the road and now we know we are truly safe. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@wanderingwilloughbys1806]

I’m glad it all worked out! That was crazy damage on the drums....we just replaced all ours this past summer and shocks in December. Definitely not a lifestyle without drama or surprises. Like Tina said you just fix it and keep going....stay safe and hopefully see you down the roads sometime!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey guys. Hope you are both well. We should have had the drums replaced when the shoes were replaced back then but now we know. :) Safe Travels and I'm sure we'll see you guys down the road.

[@1RodeoMom]

What a way to roll with the punches in RV Life. Glad the truck feels nice and smooth again and everyone is safe and sound!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey there. Yes, we have to be flexible. Just glad it wasn't a bank breaker. Was worried that it might cost more than we could handle but it was relatively affordable, I guess, considering the overall damage. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@johnnysportscards8792]

Sorry to hear about this. As a long time tractor trailer mechanic for Penske, I have only heard of this 1 time back in 1998. Only 1 drum exploded on a Peterbuilt. The driver was able to limp it into our shop safely. Glad to see you all get to keep living the dream. Stay safe and can't wait for more videos.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for sharing your experience. It must not happen too often, thankfully. More videos to come. :) Safe Travels

[@wortheverymile371]

That's a bummer. Glad you guys got it fixed quickly. Safe travels.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for checking out the video. We're so happy to be back on the road. :) Safe Travels

[@proceedingonwardinamerica]

Wow. Just glad you guys are safe and fix the problem.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thank you. We are so glad it wasn't nearly as bad as we feared. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@melduncanakamelnetteliving9892]

Sorry to hear about your rig issues. We had our own as well. Spent a small fortune. Glad to see you got everything taken care of and your staying on the road. You two be safe in your travels. Hope to see you two down the road or up the road doesn’t matter either direction. 👍 Stay safe out there.👍👏🇺🇸🥑❤️

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey Mel. Great to hear that you guys are fixed up as well. We'll see you down the road I'm sure. Safe Travels

[@trucklover389]

That's a tough break, glad it all worked out in the end. I have heard of drums cracking after getting really hot.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for checking out the video. Yes, the old drums looked like they had been on fire they had been so hot at one point. Glad it happened the way it did so we could get to safety and get them repaired. Safe Travels

[@todbrooks583]

Glad you’re back on the road! Safe travels.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Its good to be back and out of that heat LOL Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@barbaraadelman2391]

So glad you guys are ok.....! And so nice to know there are still angels on the road or wherever we go....

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Barbara. Thank you so much for the kind words and thoughts. We are so blessed that this didn't happen at high speeds. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@howardkepple5623]

Sorry for the breakdown glad you was able to get it up and going so you can keep going 👏🏼👏🏼

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Howard. We're so happy to be back on the road. All that stress and worry and it turned out to be easily repairable. Just glad we are safe. :) Safe Travels

[@TravelingonAdventures]

Wow! That is insane! I have never heard of a drum exploding like that! So glad you are safe and were able to get it fixed!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Yeah, it was the last thing we expected to happen. :) Safe Travels

[@TravelingonAdventures]

@@JonesN2Travel Hey Aaron, quick question. Don’t you do solar installs?

[@JonesN2Travel]

@@TravelingonAdventures Yes we do. Go check out our other website, themobilervtech.com, we also have a new web store, themobilervtech.com/store where you can get solar and lithium components. Just message me there or email me at [e-mail] and I'd be happy to assist. :) Thanks

[@larrykirkpatrick7458]

Rule of thumb replace the brakes replace the drums and YOU look at them every day, it's called a pre-trip inspection. It's a commercial truck and they cost a lot of money to run if you check it out before every time you get on the road.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@SlowMomentum]

So Sorry. Glad you’re back going. The RV Community needs y’all. Your knowledge and Solar Skills are Needed.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey KT. We're back man! No worries we're still doing solar. :) Safe Travels

[@steveturpin9754]

Sorry to hear this, was wandering what had happened to your videos. Glad everything was fixed and didn’t cost you your full time status. Be safe.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Steve. We're so happy to be back on the road. We took a little time to get everything together. Thanks for sticking around, more videos to come :) Safe Travels

[@MichaelJones-se9sl]

I’ve had this happen. Because drum brakes create so much heat they get stress crack in wear life of pads and should be replaced every time you do a break job. Glad your back rolling stay safe

[@danielblancher4214]

Yes now shoes ahould also do new drums. I have see this many times. We pull 8 axil trailers and other multi axil trailers. Nothing to see drum 1/2 or 1/4 laying on the side of the road. Heat does wonders to metal Fatigue

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Michael. I agree. I didn't question the dealership enough when they agreed to replace the shoes and apparently they weren't too concerned sending me out on the road like that either. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@JonesN2Travel]

Agreed. I should have insisted that they change the drums when they did the shoes but you know what they say about hindsight. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@timothyburdette5737]

Glad you are safe and back on the road. By the looks of the drums they have been extremely hot at one time and the makes them brittle, and yes when they did you brakes they should have inspected the drums.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Tim. Agree with you 100%. If I had known better at the time I would have insisted they replace the drums even if I had to pay for them back then. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Safe Travels

[@innerspaceavailable]

So glad you guys are okay. I totally understand about the cost concerns. We got our truck home from Texas after buying it and we knew we were going to have a do alot to it. Brakes, Shocks, rear air bags, cab shocks, cab bushings, Cab bags too. I have also heard that Volvos were prone to brake issues but many times it was from poor quality replacement parts from overseas. Julie's Jeep got a set of cheap rotors one time and within six weeks the rotors had warped so badly the entire front end shook. So glad you at least got to park by the lake while you were here in Mn. So glad you, Tina and Maggie were unharmed. Thats the most important thing. All the best and if you need help with anything we are here in SE Mn. Safe Travels. Paul, Julie, and Miss Lydia.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey guys. We are glad to be back on the road and glad it was easily repairable. I had a brand new F-150 that had warped rotors within 5k miles. I have a feeling it was the same reason as Julie's :) We'll see about getting closer to you guys while we're up here. Safe Travels

[@brianthebrian3889]

Glad all has been fixed .... nothing more important is that you 3 and drivers around you didn't get hurt or worse. Take care folks :)

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks Brian. We're glad it wasn't worse than that :) Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@donellefson5882]

Wow, I have driven truck for millions of miles, And I have to say the only thing I can think of is the drums were over heated and stress cracks would have caused that .

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Don. Thanks for sharing your experience. Yeah, it is pretty clear that those drums were smoked at some point. The cracks weren't new so had been working their way through the drums for some time. So much for having a DOT inspector inspect the truck LOL Safe Travels

[@catbird1759]

As you travel along the interstates, look at some of the debris along the sides of the road. Brake adjustment is out of sight and out of mind. Learn how to check your slack adjusters and know when they're at their limits. Thinking that the slack adjusters cammed over, causing the brake shoes against the drums. Extreme heat. Possibly wrong parts also. And the market is flooded with inferior parts. Glad it has a happy ending.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thank you Catbird1. Yes, I have an entirely new pre-trip routine now. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@mickrathermel9482]

Glad you were able to repair your truck quickly and is more enjoyable to drive down the highway! Looks like it could have been a major accident catastrophe. My wife and I passed you on I-35 northbound in Missouri south of Iowa state line a couple weeks ago. I gave you a thumbs up and you did the same! Keep on RVing!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Mick. Thanks for sharing that you saw us, Yes, I do remember the thumbs up. :) Thanks for that and stay safe out there. Safe Travels

[@michaelmacon2691]

I drive a commercial truck and have seen this a few times- with drums on our trailers. Owner operators at our company and some of them use the trailer trolley bar to slow down and not use up the brakes on their tractors. Company trailers brakes overheat and crack and come apart like yours did. Yours got heated up as others have said. One piece of advice that I can give you when it comes to buying drums. When you go to the parts counter, tell them you want drums made in America with American steel. They will know what you are talking about. You will pay about $20-25 more per drum, but it won't be Chinese steel. Good luck.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Michael. Thanks for sharing your experiences. Yes, that is exactly what we did. I made sure they sold me American made drums. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@jackiemartinez7260]

Thank God y’all weren’t hurt!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Jackie. We are so fortunate that this didn't happen at highway speeds. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@TipsyMarlinTravels]

Wow! 😲😲 All is good safe travels.👍👍👍

[@JonesN2Travel]

All is good now :) Safe Travels

[@nggdsb]

As a military mechanic, the tech NOT inspecting the drums is a HUGE red flag!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@frankmitzen2008]

As a 40 year experienced owner operator pulling multi axle loads I have seen brake drums break but never on one of my semi's. I always replaced the drums every other brake change and I always bought new brake shoes and balanced drums. You don't want to go cheap when you are grossing 200k.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Frank. I'll never allow the shoes to be replaced without new drums regardless of age. This was a good lesson. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@sherriweber7105]

So glad you lol are doing ok! That’s the main thing. I was wondering where you were at. Have seen you both in a long while. I seen you Suite Travels video in Montana. When I haven’t seen any videos in a while I knew you were busy either with family or busy with solar panels. Glad you both are ok and back in the road. Can’t wait to see more videos. Glad you were able to get the truck fixed. I saw the other day at the store somebody was driving an HDT and he had a fifth wheel hitched to it with a smart car. His color of HDT was white. But I thought of you and Jim and Kelly. Never saw anyone out here drive these until now. Well you take care and see have a great weekend and see you soon!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Sherri. We're in the Indiana area now working some RV rallies. We see very few HDTs on the road too but every now and then we'll see one travelling down the road. Safe Travels

[@treskaolson2650]

I sold HD truck parts for over 10 years and the only time I ever saw drums fail like that was if they were really hot from hills, or stop n go. Then setting brakes while drums hotter than normal. The drum is expanded in diameter. Then cools and can't contract enough with cooling down. The shoes dont contract and the drum cracks as it cools. Just an idea. Glad everybody is ok.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Yeah, I agree. The drums looked like as the pressure of the set brakes pushed them out and expanded the cracks over time until there was a failure. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@keepingupwiththeJoneses77]

Great looking Rig Keep on keeping on!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey guys. We're back on the road safer than before. :) Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@kimberleytaulbee9440]

So happy you all are ok!!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thank you Kimberley. It good to be back on the road and much safer now. :) Safe Travels

[@bobatwood1384]

New subscriber love the video. Glad it all worked out

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Bob. Thanks for checking out the video and following along. Safe Travels

[@ItsaRomethingeveryday]

First time viewers to your channel, am glad yall are safe and that ya got them brakes all fixed, will watch more, Liked the vid, fixing a vehicle that's worth it is always a smart move, most people panic and buy something else

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for the sub! We appreciate you following along. :) Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@raven7068]

I know you're not commercial but always do a pre-trip inspection. As a trucker myself I know it's important with a vehicle that size. Thank God it didn't happen going down a mountain 🙏. You can look up CDL pre-trip inspection online for a checklist, drum breaks are on the list. Glad all turned out well 🙂

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for checking out the video and thanks for sharing your advice and experience. Safe Travels

[@kathyfann]

God Bless You both so glad it all ok now. 😊❤️

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thank you Kathy. God bless and Safe Travels

[@robertomorelli4725]

Being a commercial driver and truck company owner, have seen that before. Those are the original drums and most places never measure the allowable specs on the drums when replacing shoes. Most drivers will replace shoes many times and never replace the drums. After looking at the pictures, they where cracked for a long time. I replace drums after second set of shoes no matter what. I use TRD in the rears and OEM in the front for volvo. Also, some model volvo's require special shoes, I have one them. So make sure you check with dealer if you VIN requires extended braking version or not. Most important, no one hurt and damage very minor. You handled it like a pro !!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey Roberto. thanks for sharing your experience. I doubt the dealer measured anything when they did the shoes. Definitely a lesson learned. Safe Travels

[@shilosheena]

This guy knows what he talking about end of the day cut the check ouch carry on

[@marchalpeck470]

You might want to take a look at the Carfax for your truck sounds like the brakes were very overheated to the point of almost catching on fire, that's the only way they could have come apart I would think. I am so glad that did that did not happen when you were doing 70 down the interstate. Safe travels and good luck have a great day

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Marchal. I did get a Carfax when we bought the truck and it was clear. I would imagine that if something happened and the trucking company fixed it then it probably wasn't reported to Carfax. At least there were no accidents reported but you are correct, those brakes had been super hot at some point. Just glad we got them fixed right this time and we're safe on the road now. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@marchalpeck470]

You should send this viedo to the shop that did your brakes when you got your rig.

[@rickboretirementplan]

I have been a Ram diesel tech for 30 years 2500, 3500, 4500, 5500 and have seem many hair line cracks but never came apart like that. Glad you got back on the road.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for that. I've seen them crack, especially on pickups but never dreamed they would get that bad. Funny ting is I never noticed reduced stopping ability or anything like that so it really took us off guard. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@TrekHansen]

I used to work as a mechanic. We had a truck come into the shop one time with a missing brake drum. That is why I would always replace a brake drum if there's any doubt at all about the quality of it

[@JonesN2Travel]

I think if we'd traveled much further ours would have been missing too. :) Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree and that's why we went ahead and replaced all 6 drums. No since in risking it. Safe Travels

[@oklahomastumbleweeds3507]

Y’all have family in Altus, we have family there and Blair just 10 miles north of Altus. That’s some warm country in the summer for sure. Glad all worked out for y’all. God bless and travel safe. Dan - Oklahoma’s Tumbleweeds

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Dan. Its a small world for sure. Yeah, we were stationed in Altus for some time back in the early 90s and my parents retired there a couple of years later. It was nice having family in the area while waiting for the truck to be fixed. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@douglasharlick7637]

Should have caught that on your pre trip, your drums were overheated, that can only happen with drums getting super hot and cooling down, they get so hot they get brake fade, the drum expands, and brakes shoes can’t extend far enough. Over time of expansion and contraction the drums create fractures, then they fail.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@JonesN2Travel]

@@ronniebowers1241 these brake drums were not destroyed by my driving. I use the jakes more than I do the brakes. This happen long before I owned the truck.

[@raymondcrownover9665]

glad to here you got the truck fixed an back on the road

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thank you so much. We are so glad we are all safe and sound and yes, its great to be back on the road. Safe Travels

[@richardrawlins7950]

So glad you guys are ok and didn't cost you a Fortune main thing your back on the road and glad to see you guys back so safe travels from Rick and Pam from southern Ohio

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Guys. Yes, we are so glad to be back on the road and that we we're safe. Safe Travels

[@rolandholt7851]

Man I really hate this happen to you all!! Really glad you got her fixed and going again.Be Safe

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Roland. We're so thankful it happened at low speed and that it wasn't a complete budget buster to have fixed. We are so happy to be back on the road and out of that heat. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@patfoster3010]

Glad everyones ok

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Pat. Hope you are well. Yes, so glad it happened at low speeds and was repairable. Safe Travels

[@TomandLoriRVLife]

Oh my gosh! So happy you're ok!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey guys. Hope you are well. We're so glad this happened the way it did and we were able to arrive safely. Thanks. Safe Travels

[@ismaelgonzalez3501]

Sad to hear and see of your troubles, but glad to hear y’all are well and back on the road. I have a 2016 Volvo VNL 670 with Disc brakes I hear they are better than drum brakes, but don’t know how true that statement is. I can tell you I did have an issue on our last trip where the driver side front got hot enough to smoke. My temp gun read 650 degrees the others were at around 300. We sat in a parking lot for about an hr with a fan on it till it reached 260 degrees. At first chance I had them checked and readjusted. I was told they still had 75% of life and the one wheel in question had no issues and that it may have gotten stuck. Although it’s good news, I still plan to watch them very close and check temps often. For the remainder of our trip I used the J brake on a higher setting and increased my trailer brake setting up a little and even though I seem to run about 10 degrees hotter on that wheel we didn’t have any more issues. Can’t wait till we hear from y’all again. Be safe!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Ismael. Thanks for sharing your disc brake experience. Someone else mentioned upgrading to discs so I want to check them out. I am also temping mine when we stop just to keep a good eye on them. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@superduty131]

So sorry for the Bad/Good luck. This is why the heavy trucks are turning to Disc brakes. Never have I seen drum brakes do that.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Scott. Yes, someone else mentioned disc brakes. Maybe that would be a good upgrade in the future. I'm glad to hear someone else whos never seen this happen :) Safe Travels

[@thomaswilson8634]

I agree Roberto. I own my truck an I always replace drums an brakes at same time. Ive seen drums do that at yellow freight. Heat is major cause.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Agree 100%. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@rhornbostel]

Good thing that didn't come apart at highway speeds. I've never seen or heard of drums, especially on opposite sides on different axles exploding like that. I would guess sometime in the past a previous driver really overheated those brakes to make them that brittle.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Randy. Yeah, that is the only conclusion we could come up with as well. I never dreamed they would crack like that. We got very lucky that our speed was super low. We had just completed about 3 hours of highway speeds. Whew!! Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@jeannealex2560]

Hi guy's 👋... Glad you're OK... I have had drums to crack with me over all the years of my driving... I have found that usually is due to overtorking or they just simply take too much abuse with the highway.. I think you are right that when they put the brake shoes on a year and half ago there were cracks already there and I do not think they were seen at that time... It is unusual for you to have 2 drums to carry on like that... I recommend that when the weekend is very pretty to crawl up under the truck and look at the brake shoes and the drums ... You will see the warebar on the shoes as well as any cracks on the drum... You guys stay safe hope to see you soon...J&A

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey Guys. I have a whole new inspection and grease routine now. I was fortunate enough to get some lessons from the mechanic that fixed her up this time. Now I know exactly what to look for and how to grease the brake linkage too. Hope to see you guys soon as well. Safe Travels

[@richardmondor1360]

Damn that sucks! Only thing to make that happen is dragging brakes...so miss adjusted or something not releasing fully. I know people cringe when we talk about annual or by-annual inspections safety inspections, but this is the exact reason. Glad everything worked out thow, be safe.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Richard. After getting some deeper instruction and advice from the mechanic who fixed the brakes for us I now have a solid inspection routine and know what to look at and what to look for. Lesson learned but luckily we are safe and it was all fixable. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@redbovine]

I had a guy come by my shop for us to put pads on his truck. Only pads. Didn’t want drums. Didn’t want complete shoes. He had the pads and rivets. I have never seen that before. Always bought them already on the shoe in a kit with shoe hardware and all. I said ok even though the labor was going to be more than if he had just bought the complete kits from us. Pulled the wheels off and found steel drums with 1/2” rebar welded to the outside to keep the cracks from separating. Needless to say he wouldn’t spend the money to fix it right so we just put it back together and sent him down the road. I didn’t like doing it but for safety of others we called a DMV friend we knew and reported him. Only time I’ve ever done it but he could have killed somebody. Those drums you pulled off looked like steel drums due to the ribs on the sides. I preferred cast drums because they seemed to heat cycle better. The steel seemed to crack easier. The steel ones save weight is why people use them. You just can’t push them past spec which is around 1/8” wear.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for sharing your experience. That is crazy, sometimes its ok to be cheap but not when it comes to brakes. I just trusted that the dealer would have recommended new drums and since they didn't I figured they were ok. I learned that lesson the expensive way and will never redo the brakes on a heavy truck without replacing the drums. They weren't even all that expensive by themselves. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@Gingerbread_man117]

I'm a heavy truck mancanic and the company I work for when we do brake pads we do new drums as well. So something for you to think about next time u do brakes on the truck or ur rig. When do pads do the drums as well.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Kyle. Will never do shoes again without also replacing the drums. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@rv-n-heaven7849]

Glad y’all are safe and nothing that can’t be fixed. I’ve been wondering what you do in an emergency for towing and repairs. I don’t think my AAA membership will cover an HDT if I end up getting one. We really appreciate and enjoy your videos. Keep up the great work and travel safe. Todd and Kristie.

[@22howards]

This is a good video topic. Cost of maintenance on an HDT over a period of time/ miles.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Guys. We have a road side assistance package through the FMCA membership and also one through our insurance carrier. Better safe than sorry. We're just glad we were able to complete the drive without having to wait for a wrecker. Double check your AAA for coverage before you need it :) Safe Travels

[@SomeTechGuy666]

@@JonesN2Travel Unless your rig breaks down more than average, road side assistance plans cost more than hiring a tow truck for the occasional break down. FMCA might get a better rate than you do when calling from the side of the road, but there are also limits on the service you'll get. There have been instances where it has taken hours to get service.

[@danvolkman1455]

It was probably the last guy who did the brake drums hit them with a sledgehammer to get them loose. That started the cracks. From the looks of the rust in the cracks, its been cracked for a while.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Dan. Our mechanic would agree with you. He said that the cracks were definitely not new so the last mechanic should have seen them and told us about it. He didn't :( Nevertheless, we're all fixed up and back on the road safely now. :) Safe Travels

[@harleynavis5218]

As a retired diesel mechanic,I've seen this multiple times,what happens is S cam bushings wear causing slacks not to self adjust,it flips the S cam and causes brake shoes to drag on the drum...good luck harley 63b 63c 63f go army nixon ford carter,I've been around don't blame the drums

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi there. Everything else was in proper order just the drums fell apart. They had been extremely hot at some point prior to me owning the truck. I've put less than 20k miles on them since I bought it. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@bcrawford9072]

Yes my 15 years of working for fleet shops it was not common but I did have a fair share of them. Most of the time it was on trailers. As long as the grove in the drum wasn't to bad it went back on.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thanks for sharing your experience. The old drums had no groove so not sure if they had been turned or what. We put 20k miles on them mostly using the Jakes to slow the truck. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@clayboren6178]

I was a heavy equipment/truck mechanic for 15 years and I have never seen anything like this. Glad it all ended well.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Clay. Thanks for checking out the video. I got that same comment from a bunch of mechanics so I'm glad I was able to share a rare event. :) Safe Travels

[@jenes440]

damn Aaron that must of been scary I never heard of Drums Come apart like that on a big rig. That must’ve been scary. it looks like you got it all done. Now you have new truck. Good luck and have fun

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Joe. Yep, all new now, Now we know we're safe on the road. Just glad we were going super slow when the drum came apart. Could have been a lot worse. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@dwightsalter2394]

Glad everything worked out. Yes that can happen from time to time but not not often. It’s caused by to much heat so the person that had the truck must have pulled a lot of freight through mountains with a lot of down hill and stayed on his breaks. Heat caused the metal to expand and crack. You don’t run down mountains with a heavy load or any load fast and then ride your brakes. Think about 80,000 lbs and breaks go out that’s how people get killed. A little advice even though you aren’t pulling a lot of weight have someone check your breaks every year and tell your friends. We always did better safe than sorry. Great video stay safe and God bless.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Dwight. Excellent advice Sir. Yes, we are going to change up our inspection interval now for sure. Even going down hills we use the jakes mostly and because we are hauling light we've never had to "ride" the brakes. We agree, better safe than sorry. Safe Travels

[@toddrevill8486]

Glad everything went well and you were able to get everything repaired. I love the truck unfortunately with big trucks comes big repair bills.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Todd. Thanks for checking out the video. So far the repairs have not been too expensive but this one caught me off guard and I wasn't sure how bad it would be. Still, $4k for a brake job is a lot but now I know its done right. Safe Travels

[@toddrevill8486]

@@JonesN2Travel thanks for the reply, I really like your videos especially the 3 parts on buying the volvo and setting it up. I like all the how to videos as well, I'm curious in what kind of mileage you are getting (I know there are lots of variables to consider). Safe travels to you , Tina & Maggie.

[@JonesN2Travel]

@@toddrevill8486 We average about 8 mpg in the HDT. Not too bad considering we averaged 8-9 in our dually pulling the same load. The Volvo is geared much differently and just cruises along like its not even towing LOL Safe Travels

[@psl767-camping4]

Glad nobody got hurt. We should be getting our hdt in a week or so.....I will be checking the drums on it closely. We will most likely replace all the shocks when we get it including the cab shocks.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Congrats on getting your HDT. Shocks made a huge difference on our truck but yes, make sure to check those drums for cracks. Still baffled that ours was inspected and no cracks were noted. We did the cab shocks as soon as we took delivery of the truck. One was bad causing the cab to lean slightly. Hope to see you guys out on the road. Safe Travels

[@brianroth7852]

Aaron, Tina glad you guys are safe. Been driving these things for ever. The only time I've seen a drum crack like that is when they got super heated and some one set the maxi brakes still hot. This is a prime reason I still don't trust shop to adjust my brakes it gives me a chance to look at the drums and put a wrench on them. I adjust my brakes by hand. Rears are snugged all the way down and then back them off a 1/4 turn. Steers are set at a 1/2 a turn off. I still try and crawl my truck at least once a week. Just the other day I heard a whered noise from my pickup truck. And it was pulling to the right on application of my brakes. Needless to say I found that my right front control arm was completely broken in half. Parts bill $480 had to buy both lowers and shop time $540. I just keep telling Cindy big trucks = big bucks to fix them. So I know the feeling of the pocket book damage this week. 💞 Brian and Cindy "xtreambydesign with passion"

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey Brian. Thanks for that insight I truly appreciate it. Yeah, my entire inspection process has been revamped. I had the mechanic that fixed this issue walk me through everything I should be inspecting, greasing and adjusting and how often I should do all of that. Something the dealer really didn't do. They just kept telling me that I wasn't going to wear anything out pulling my fifth wheel. Maybe so but what about the bad parts that I got with the truck LOL. "Big truck, big bucks" I like that :) Safe Travels

[@brianroth7852]

@@JonesN2Travel As for my brakes on the Large car when we brought it home I parked it while we worked on it. It sat for over thirty days. Ended up with dead batteries. Had to buy a new set. Didn't know it had a battery kill switch. $500 latter now it has a bat switch. Also my brakes froze to the drum's and a full day of re adjusting and prying to get them released. I told Cindy I'm not getting rid of my tools!!. Over the years I have rebuilt my own rear ends, transmissions and did minor maintenance. Haven't tore in too a motor yet. I did find a good local mechanic here in Portland Oregon. He charges under a hundred $$ an hour. Called him the other day and to replace the serpentine belts and recharge the ac is $230.00. Getting that done next week. Found our welder for the bed and frame he gets a $100 an hour so the truck gets to make a trip north for a couple of days. Waiting for our IRS return to purchase the ET Hitch and then send the truck north. When it comes home I start on the lighting package. Thank God we have a year to work on everything. But we still take small trips with our 35' and our picki up truck.

[@daviddodd7958]

I drive a truck for a living and have been around these trucks all my life. I’ve never seen or heard of that happening

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi David. We thought it was odd too. My guess is that normal inspections reveal these cracks and the drums are replaced before this happens. Unfortunately our inspector/mechanic at Volvo never noticed them and when I asked the dealership about inspection intervals they simply told me not to worry about it and that I would never wear the brakes out towing a fifth wheel. Guessing that was bad advice LOL Safe Travels

[@Kevin-midmichigan]

Never seen that before and ive been diesel mechanic for 30 yrs. Wow..Very Lucky

[@sewerdog1011]

Hey check out "wanted on wheels" post on "parts list. He had a cracked drum, replacing breaks n shocks. Glade ur safe guys, keep looking up, it's all good just in a different way.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi there. Yeah, I remember seeing Dave's video but I never expected the drums to come apart like they did especially after a recent brake inspection at the Volvo dealer. All better now and performing better than it ever has. Safe Travels

[@trustme7731]

Two drums don't fall apart at the same time because they were of poor quality. Without knowing anything else, I would say that during previous brake jobs the drums were turned and they went WAY beyond the maximum diameter making the shoe contact area very thin. A couple of hard stops would crack them. Or they were heavily worn and not checked during a brake job. I had this happen on one drum on a truck much heavier than yours. I heard the broken piece clunking when the wheel turn slow but they had never been turned and had only about 5,000 miles on them.

[@JonesN2Travel]

I agree, I think there was more to it than just cheap drums. We'll probably never know but heat was definitely a major factor. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@loriw2661]

I spoke with a trucker friend of mine and he said he’d never seen that happen before but, in his opinion, it was heat; especially because it happened to two of them. The previous owner rode the brakes too much. That was his opinion anyway. I remember when you purchased it. You did everything right and took every precaution with the myriad testing you had done. So unfortunate that things can still happen, even after so much care was taken prior to buying it. So……it’s done now!! Relax; have a great time, and enjoy!!

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Lori. I think you and your trucker friend are both right. They had been really, really hot at some point. Yes Ma'am, all fixed up and we know we're safe now. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@williamgates4399]

Ah, Altus AFB, Worked there for four years and loved the area. USAF. C-5 and C-141back in the mid 70's

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi William. Awesome, I was stationed there in the logistics squadron from 94 to 96. They still had 141s for a while but now all C17. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@thomascreps8712]

I worked on truck brakes for 23 years and it sounds like the Dealership tried to save some money and just put shoes on for the sale. Would have been real obvious on the brake surface that there in my opinion that there was stress cracks and should have been replaced. You were not using the brakes hard enough to cause this problem in the time you have had the truck

[@JonesN2Travel]

I agree. They only replaced the shoes at the dealership and even when we had this issue there still were no wear grooves in the drums. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@tonyvickers8659]

Glad everything turned out ok. Was kinda scary seeing a single wheel truck towing your heavy trailer. Glad you did not have far to go. :-)

[@JonesN2Travel]

Yes it was. We took extra care to go very slow. I had to speed up the video or it would have been an hour long LOL Safe Travels

[@ad886710]

sorry this happened to y'all but glad everyone was ok....btw, also glad that good samaritan's truck made it thru towing your rig...it was seriously undermatched for your DRV.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Alan. I was concerned about that too. I made sure to let the owner know what our weights are. We drove so slow to the RV park that i had to speed up the footage or it would have been a 30 minute video LOL Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@terrybarnes2287]

In the past I planned on changing the brake drums every second brake lining change. I drove approximately 100k every year and as I recall brake lining were changed about every 150k . So i would replace lining and drum every 300k. I always changed linings/drums on both hubs on each axle never just one side. Drum brakes require balancing in regards to pressure in stopping(you always want 80k going the same direction). You are at the mercy of the tech doing the work so you need to develop some parameters in what you want done. Tell them what you want do not leave it up to them. Your life and mine depend upon it. If you view the drum from the ground underneath the truck the drum should have a raised ring and some thickness before it makes contact with the lining . If not your drums may be too thin and will crack the lining in the center of the shoe just like yours appear. Class 8 trucks are superior to any other tow vehicle on the road. They have some unique characteristics that need attention but last for every. I drove 3 vehicles over 2 million miles combined with nothing more than standard maintenance. Hope this helps

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Terry. Thank you for your insight and for sharing your experience. I will never replace brakes on a class 8 truck without doing the drums. We aren't likely to ever put 100k miles on this truck the way we travel so if they had replaced the drums in the beginning I never would have had to deal with this. All fixed and safe now and that's all that matters. Safe Travels

[@kathyfann]

Repairs happen in a home too. 😊 I need a windfall right now because of some repairs I need to do

[@JonesN2Travel]

You are correct. It all breaks at some point LOL Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@manuelfloressr.9039]

My thoughts are: When ever you do a brake job on a heavy truck you replace the drums. Heavy trucks are not like light duty that you can get away by just replacing brake shoes. You find this out the hard way. Also your truck is a high mileage vehicle and it was due for new parts all the way around.

[@danielramsey1959]

Dang that was bad, i went with disc brakes on my 2015 Peterbilt 579. Been a diesel mechanic for 40 plus years, seen this on rigs where they just replace the shoes only and over time the drum wears out of spec. Keeping the slack adjusters and s cams greased helps to prevent dragging brakes.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Daniel. We have disc brakes on our fifth wheel and they work great. I am thinking of upgrading the truck to discs as well. Have to do some research :) Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@brucewatson5563]

Glad to see all ended well. We are still hiding out in the sticks and bricks due to covid. But looking forward to more trips soon. Did you say you were headed to Minnesota? Where about? We are still in the Metro area for the summer, but talking about heading south for this winter. Bruce

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Bruce. Thanks for checking out the video. We met with a customer in MN for a solar install in the Nevis area. Hopefully you'll feel safe enough to get out of the house soon. Safe Travels

[@cmh2111]

Man I feel bad for you. I hope you kept the damaged parts. I would be having a conversation with the dealer you purchased the truck from. This is unacceptable, let alone dangerous. Imagine if you were coming down a 7% grade road. I'm glad you used all OEM parts, more $$ up front, but cheaper in the long run. Happy Trails.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Yeah, I wasn't going to use aftermarket parts, especially on the brake system. I don't even want to think about this happening at highway speeds or down a grade. Glad it happened when and ho wit did so we could fix it without any further damage. Safe Travels

[@guyh.4121]

Tough to hear, and such a nice lookin rig too. Gotta be a freak thing for sure. Glad you’re back at it.

[@JonesN2Travel]

I think so too, just glad it happened at low speed. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@pedrogoncalves1459]

Glad everything went well

[@JonesN2Travel]

Thank you Pedro. Its good to be back on the road. Safe Travels

[@kennyirish5021]

I know I'm late here, However I have this for you O.E.M. always isist on it. My dad once said son buy the best cause you'll always be happy with it. Yea he was right. Love ya Dad ; ) Love what your doing wish I was there. Have fun man cause this is heaven.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey Kenny. I have to agree with you and your dad. When we put this back together we went with OEM to avoid this in the future. 😁 Thanks for following along. Safe Travels

[@texasproud3332]

Well glad to hear that y’all are doing well and I am not experienced in heavy truck systems but have towed a trailer since 93’ this maybe an obvious question but since y’all have had the shoes replaced and the drums looked at in the last 1 1/2 yrs it seems to me to much pressure from the trailer when braking have you checked it’s brakes and checked if its brakes are functioning properly?

[@JonesN2Travel]

We have disk brakes on the DRV and they work very well. I check them every time we head out to make sure they activate properly. I think the drums were already damaged when we purchased the truck and none of the inspectors/mechanics that worked on it noticed them or simply didn't report the cracks to us at the time.

[@carlthor91]

With proper brakes on a Class 8 truck, unless you have a very heavy travel trailer, I doubt the truck would experience much extra forces. You should understand the tractor's brakes are built with lots of spare capacity, it can still be overcome by someone running overloads, or other bad operations, such as when it was in commercial service. A driver from the plain states, who wasn't trained, taking it through the mountains, would do the damage seen. It's like Erin says, most likely a poor/idiot operator had the truck before them. I have worked on Class 8 trucks when I was much, much, younger. Erin's trailer brakes probably have close to minimal wear.

[@GunsmithLC]

Wow.. At the 5:00 mark, I sure noticed the sag on that truck; it's way overloaded.. Thank God he didn't get pulled over by the cops. As to the drums, I've never seen that myself ever.. Yikes. Only bad thing about HD trucks is the HD payments it takes to keep 'em running.. Best wishes onward and I hope it's the last of your troubles..

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Lee. Luckily we only had to move the RV less than a mile and we did it super slowly. I sped up the footage so it wouldn't take all day to show. I would never tow a large fifth wheel with that truck for any real distance. Luckily it was diesel too. :) Safe Travels

[@XPLORMORE13]

yes you are overloaded need a bigger truck for sure

[@brucefick5871]

Never seen that before. WOW !

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hey Bruce. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@davidelliott5860]

Glad you are okay, wonder what could have happened if you where going faster, wow!! Could you have x-rayed the drums when you changed pads? You are safe, not much damage, all bad parts changed brand new truck. Stay safe.

[@JonesN2Travel]

It really is like driving a new truck. Can't believe the difference new shocks made. I suppose we could have had them x-rayed but not sure where we would have taken them. I would have expected the mechanic that did the brakes the first time to say something about them looking like they had been cooked. LOL Really glad we can trust the brakes now too. Safe Travels to you guys as well. :)

[@davidelliott5860]

@@JonesN2Travel You think that the mechanic would have told you that something just doesn't look right. Now with all you did you can feel better about your brakes, and shocks. 🎉🎉💥💥👍👍

[@joshweiser7737]

I have been driving semi trucks for 19 years and I have never seen anything like that happen but I also use my jake brakes more than my foot pedal break

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Josh. That is why I know this wasn't caused by me over the last 20k miles. I use the Jakes more than the brakes and I love the way the Jakes slow the truck without the brakes. Thanks for sharing your experience. Safe Travels

[@larrykirkpatrick7458]

In addition do you have a CDL license even though you are pulling an RV. Please don't just rely on what a mechanic says check it out your self, chances are you would have caught the the problem before it caused all that damage. So please be careful and drive safe.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Larry. No CDL required since the truck is registered as an RV. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@billgreen5161]

The same ting happened to me years ago, I owned and drove my own kenworth in canada. It is caused from over heating the brakes.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Bill. Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree, these drums had been super heated at some point. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels

[@marcf2564]

Brake drums Ken crack it should be inspected internally when brakes are replaced. The brake drums are exposed to a lot of heat and can cause that expansion if there are cracks in them then you will get exactly what happened to you.

[@JonesN2Travel]

Hi Marc. Yes, we learned a lot about how these things heat and cool with this incident. Thanks for checking out the video. Safe Travels