Is this the future of DJ software? 🚀 Rekordbox Professional Plan Review

[@scottfrost317]

If they are going to. Charge for using software to use full functionality of the gear that Peoplepay an enormous amount for then the price of the gear should be cheaper. If you pay 10k for a setup and then they want to charge you more it’s just not a good business practice. People are getting tired of the subscription overload. You can also use backblaze for unlimited backup for 7$ a month.

[@digitaldjtips]

You have a point, but it's a bigger debate than just Rekordbox - I find my subscriptions are rising fast, too, and I agree, it can feel like overload!

[@Ninja_Gaijin]

@@digitaldjtips I have three subscriptions - water, electricity and internet. Rent too if you want to count that. But I don't pay no stinking monthly fees for anything else!!

[@Venomynous]

Use RekordBox 6 Free version and save $360 a year to spend on cheaper services or a larger hard drive.

[@djsnowpdx]

Who here has 2-3 TB of music or more? I’m fairly proud of my 120 GB!

[@digitaldjtips]

Yeah it would be an insane amount of music, music videos perhaps :)

[@blackclassic007]

I do.

[@djkram1966]

@@blackclassic007 Is Rekord box unlimited? I thought I read where it was 5 TB max not 2,or 3 TB? This looks really cool I would like to use it. Can you load your NTFS library into Dropbox and then have it converted to FAT32? In terms of uploading? Do most Djs just use a flash drive with 32 gigs of music and then upload their entire library that way?

[@rhythmrascal2466]

This sounds amazing, I would be prepared to pay the extra for the piece of mind of having a solid backup system rather than multiple hard drives in multiple places and having to regularly back them up. Thank you for all your great and informative content Phil.

[@digitaldjtips]

Nice one :)

[@johnparker8270]

Still rocking rb5 here quite happily, does everything i need. This just seems a bit emperor`s new clothes to me

[@DJLueder]

Exactly

[@digitaldjtips]

Certainly won't be for everyone at this point

[@Ravinstomper]

Exactly mate 👍

[@dtexpress8002]

It ain't good for anyone pioneer should stick with something there good at...hardware

[@johnparker8270]

@@dtexpress8002 hmm kinda yes and no for me. Rb5 is gr8 for djing but rb6 is just a cash grab imo

[@pablodrescher-flores9884]

Thank you for the inspiration, Phil! I've been watching for over a year now and just picked up my first controller last week. Thank you for all the useful information 👍

[@digitaldjtips]

Awesome, glad to hear it!

[@djnamhoang]

Now you can store all your musics in cloud but you only can use with laptop connected. Sorry but i'm in 2021 and i play with Denon's Prime Series, I ain't need laptop!

[@1period]

Strictly streaming?

[@djnamhoang]

@@1period yup. Easy cash for request lol

[@1period]

@@djnamhoang Haha word up! We're still ripping or plugging in the phone #TrustIssues LOL

[@digitaldjtips]

Certainly a lot of people moving to standalone setups :)

[@onestopviewfiles]

7:52 this was why we would have 2 usb sticks. Which was useful when the ethernet connectors between 2 decks didn't work

[@digitaldjtips]

True!

[@1period]

Good info. Definitely something to consider. I just had a 2T drive get corrupted & paid for a recover (got about 80-90% back). This is intriguing. Especially with managing a DJ team that includes continuously updating redundant drives and laptops.

[@digitaldjtips]

Ouch, such a pain

[@NightDoctorGNR]

Good evening Phil and all. Fantastic and very informative as per usual many thanks.

[@digitaldjtips]

Thanks very much!

[@bigdaz7272]

Very informative video Phil. They really should offer an option for you to use your own server though instead of Dropbox and reflect that in the price, their are plenty of options available to run your own cloud server and even mirror them with a Friends setup for extra 'offsite' redundancy ect.

[@digitaldjtips]

Perhaps an option down the line

[@briandemodulated]

I already do this with OneDrive which is a lot cheaper for me, but if I had more than 1TB of music this might be a competitive offer. I like that it's integrated into the DJ software and not handled by the OS.

[@digitaldjtips]

Thanks for watching :)

[@craigparry282]

Great review and good timing as I've been wondering about whether I should get cloud storage for backup and if so which one. I was made aware of RB Pro with Dropbox but I'm still not 100% on how it works. Eg. Say you need to access the Dropbox from another laptop or tablet device (as you don't have access to yout main laptop) how do you then play the tracks through the RB software. Usually the RB on my main laptop would be reading the tracks from local hard drive but that will not be the case if using another laptop/ tablet device.

[@digitaldjtips]

It’s all outlined in the video, your rekordbox library is kept in sync for you across all devices that need it via Pioneer DJ is only about nothing to do with dropbox

[@digitaldjtips]

It will automatically download them to any other laptop, and you get a choice on mobile devices.

[@stevenstanghellini2775]

So Phil, if it automatically downloads them to my laptop, does that mean it’s taking up space on my laptop? I want to be able to organize and update my library on the go, via the cloud, then, export to USB from my iMac at home…

[@joecreates5958]

How about lifetime plan? How much they cost? Is there any information about it from Rekordbox?

[@digitaldjtips]

No there isn't

[@DJBennyswift]

I’m really liking the new Dropbox addition, I’m still on creating a good collection and I think I may have it situated. I have Rekordbox on my MacBook Air, iMac, and on my iPhone as well as Dropbox and I can see how it all works together and now I’m almost making the complete switch to Rekordbox from Serato Suite. I have the Serato course and about to get the new Rekordbox course so I can work I can work it to it’s full potential. Thank you for the video Phil!!!

[@digitaldjtips]

You're welcome Benny! Nearly ready now...

[@djgartek]

You can do the same or more if you have another cloud service

[@NexuJin]

Feels to me Pioneer is trying to create an audience that doesn't really exist. But if the infrastructure needed works for you, why not? Still rather backup on a physical device that's accessible.

[@digitaldjtips]

If it doesn't exist they'll drop it so time will tell

[@djsubculture2786]

Physical backups are good, but the cloud is essential in case of catastrophe. Fires, floods, etc.

[@Bradmopar]

Thanks for the info and review! It would be nice if you could access the library from your phone and play it in your CDJ’s or standalone players. Or if you could access Dropbox right on the player. Pioneer is close. Hopefully this will come soon.

[@digitaldjtips]

Nice idea - and fyi you can play your library from your phone.

[@sezjames2472]

You can do that on nexus 3000 and rb phone app but it's quite slow. Nice addition just isn't fast with drop box for that

[@DjSETTES]

Nice explanation Phil, however when I listen to this I feels so old 😉 my vinyls still get a dust and I have to dust them off time to time ...

[@digitaldjtips]

How things have changed :)

[@jasonking6977]

Appreciate that Recordbox has some bells and whistles compared to other softwares. But the essentials for a DJ and mixing are on all of them. I wouldn't personally want to pay a monthly fee for the rest of time I want to DJ. I will stick with my one off payment for a licence with Serato DJ Pro and continue to back-up on my portable drive.

[@digitaldjtips]

I hear you, subscriptions are a controversial one. Paying for a subscription isn't the only way to use Rekordbox though even with 6

[@pauloliphant7725]

so this saves all of your cue points/track preparation as well, yes?

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes

[@chrismanikkam6444]

Hi Phil. Great tutorial, one question. Is there a way to bulk delete tracks from your rekordbox Library. I find it annoying to delete one track at a time. Regards

[@digitaldjtips]

You can bulk remove them from your collection, but you ca';t bulk delete files (and on this version, you can;t delete files at all).

[@shari_8410]

Hi Digital DJ Tips 🙋‍♂️ i have a question , from where you have your Laptop Desktop Stand ? it looks very Cool :)

[@digitaldjtips]

djtips.co/stand

[@tobiasgugger2268]

Instead let rekordbox move the file to Dropbox. You can also move the file first to Dropbox white your preferred folder structure and then relocates the files (initial computer), this you don’t get not iTunes style of folder structure. After you can initialize all other computer and devices white empty library.

[@alex2921]

Hi Phil! Amazing video as usual! For those who want to keep saving filed on hard drive, what external hard drive do you recommand? Thank you for your excellent work

[@digitaldjtips]

I like Seagate drives but really any drive from a reputable company will do the trick

[@jeroenalexandervanarkel]

I have rekordbox and beatport what is de difference besides 18 euro vs 29 euro for this??

[@digitaldjtips]

If you watch the video you shall find out :)

[@shifty501]

so if you choose to “move” to the cloud and not “copy” to the cloud, does it mean you must have internet access to load those files?

[@digitaldjtips]

No, it just deletes the track from your computer where it originally found it after it has moved it into the local Dropbox folder on your computer - there is still a copy on your computer.

[@shifty501]

@@digitaldjtips oh okay I see, thanks for the reply🫡

[@flashmemories]

Great video! I'm curious what would happen to all the stored files if I were to opt in and later decide to downgrade to another subscription tier.

[@digitaldjtips]

It’s just Dropbox, so you keep them and can download etc.

[@flashmemories]

@@digitaldjtips thank you

[@Ravinstomper]

So think about this. I'm paying for the £30pm and over time I've imported my tracks and lists etc all is good and loving it. Even to a point where I just move all my music to the cloud as I'm comfortable in doing so. THEN I fall in hard times and finances are tight or need to fix car or life happens or whatever.... If I stop my subscription to aid my financial situation, will I still get my music back if I restart like 6m-1yr later?? Have I lost it all? If so what's the point of dedicating yourself to a system and you still need to back up your music for that just in case situation. Surely if I'm to back up a hard copy that's far cheaper to buy more harddrives than the extra £15pm for indefinitely... Food for thought.

[@digitaldjtips]

You won't lose anything if you cancel, it's the same as dropbox

[@Max_Mtl]

I’d like to see something like that from algoriddim and iCloud.

[@digitaldjtips]

Nice idea

[@miralemmire8215]

Look at that tech 😍 #Paradise

[@digitaldjtips]

😀

[@DreamPrashant]

Wait a second, so I can have other files like images, documents etc in this Dropbox as well?

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes, you can use it like you use any Dropbox, in addition to DJ use.

[@jameshans-rc2tv]

does it work like any cloud where it is an accessable folder and you can use it to drag and drop other files like videos etc? if so whats the limit on storage? it doesnt say on the terms and conditions. thanks

[@digitaldjtips]

It is rebadged unlimited Dropbox.

[@scoob101]

If you cant justify the cost of this service, but you already use a cloud storage service on your laptop, then you can get a poor mans approximation of this. Just store your DJ tracks on your regular cloud synced folder, Backup your database to a cloud folder, and restore that database on your any other machine thats connected to the same cloud account. The biggest thing this method wont give you is the mobile app integration. I`m not really seeing much value in the export backups becuase its still dependent on you getting access to a laptop. You`d be better off exporting to two seperate USB`s and keeping one of those as a redundant spare.

[@CS-ep3ku]

Good call, I'm doing this myself since I use Dropbox for all my files. And you can actually sync with one mobile device using the free plan. I just tested out this feature the other day, it's pretty cool.

[@digitaldjtips]

Nice one Steve

[@scoob101]

@@CS-ep3ku you can also get music players for your phone which can sync tracks from your cloud service which is nice for listening to your collection and tagging songs for inclusion in sets.

[@CS-ep3ku]

@@scoob101 I've been using Plex to play stuff on my phone but I tried the Rekordbox app the other day and it's actually pretty nice. You can update metadata, cue points, etc without having to sit at the computer ;) You can make playlists too. After you're done you copy your changes back to your computer, like you would with a usb drive after a gig.

[@scoob101]

@@CS-ep3ku I'm betting you are on iOS - the rekordbox app on android is pretty bad...

[@x3mnike1]

Virtual DJ + One Drive = same for free

[@digitaldjtips]

This is definitely aimed at DJs who want to stay within the Pioneer/Rekordbox ecosystem :)

[@djstretchtone9851]

Will Virtual DJ support and convert large libraries from NTFS to whatever format needed for Virtual DJ ? The events I will be doing will be in remote areas from time to time. I have open format of multiple different genres, I'm looking for a solution for about 2 or 3 terabytes worth of music in the cloud for my DJ set up.

[@KaosEngineering]

This solves a big problem for me

[@digitaldjtips]

Nice!

[@audiomonster303]

I would rather have hard copies of usb sticks instead of cloud storage. And what do you do when theres no wifi? no sound!

[@digitaldjtips]

I like both :)

[@audiomonster303]

@@digitaldjtips but limitations fuel creativity! lol jk

[@maus3454]

So you need to bring a laptop if you are on the road, to run rekordbox recovery from dropbox

[@digitaldjtips]

...or borrow one, yes.

[@edwardferry8247]

Does this connect to Dropbox ?

[@digitaldjtips]

Yes

[@edwardferry8247]

@@digitaldjtips I love your videos and look forward to doing a course. I was just being facetious… all the best 😊

[@Binnziboy]

Have stored my music on hard drives for years. They are easy and accessible. They work. If one fails, I go to the other and get another back up. I'm still puzzled why you need access to unlimited music whilst doing your set. I hate the idea of looking for music on a cloud service that I have never played before. I simply have all the music I need. I do not need a 4 million song online playlist, just because someone wants that tune, you might not have. This is big business trying to sell us stuff we really do not need. I am all for innovation, but they have to give something of true value and for a fair price.

[@digitaldjtips]

...all fair points, meaning this isn't aimed at you. But to be clear, this is about having your own library in the cloud, not access to a cloud music service, in case that wasn't how it came across.

[@SherwinBajao]

When is Serato Cloud coming?

[@digitaldjtips]

No word…

[@badsin4u]

okay but what if you’re at a gig and you have no internet? no wifi. no hotspot from your phone. now what?????

[@digitaldjtips]

We don't see cloud DJing becoming the norm until 5G is - as of now it's not perfect, but it's heading in that direction

[@danmoore9682]

It would be nice if the mobile app just streamed the cloud files instead of having to download them to your device. This seems incredibly clunky and more trouble than it’s worth. If this was seamless and easy great, but it’s not and most people back their files up already..what am I missing?

[@digitaldjtips]

Mobile app is for preparation and also can be used to play tracks from in the booth

[@LothoOdy]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@RenatoHarripaul1217]

👍👍👍👍

[@digitaldjtips]

😀

[@l337z0r]

Too many subscriptions, man. They seem cheap and good value, but they all add up! Netflix, Spotify, Apple Music, Rekordbox, Beatport Link, and a million other subscriptions. We're all knee deep in subscriptions these days and there's more on the way. And in 10 years, what will we have to show for all this money poured into subscriptions?

[@digitaldjtips]

They do, you have to be careful

[@Ninja_Gaijin]

Is it the future? Maybe. Not for me though, if my wallet has anything to do with it.

[@digitaldjtips]

Fair enough :)

[@huwwackman_excel]

Good video. Great idea but 30 a month is hard! I use duplplicate H-drives and store them at my Parents house. Unrelated topic. Just saw on ebay someone trying to sell an XDJ XZ for £2550! Get real.

[@digitaldjtips]

Yup not cheap but for pro DJs could be a worthwhile expenditure

[@djboris351]

The best software...

[@digitaldjtips]

Awesome, glad you're liking it!

[@djboris351]

I have it for a year, together with my DJ controller, its functions are fantastic.

[@DocFUNKist]

To be fair I feel this feature has ZERO value… what would have been extremely great and useful it would be if you could play music without having to download it… (such as tidal) so you download it to your cache… use it and goes away with the cache. This will be great because you’re virtually not filling up your drive…

[@abijahmaniaco]

Forget anything with a subscription. 🙅🏼‍♂

[@digitaldjtips]

You'll be forgetting an awful lot nowadays.

[@lilart13ab]

Am good going 2 stay 2 the free 1 don't use or need the cloud.

[@digitaldjtips]

Fair enough :)

[@lag3432]

You talk a lot about every software except virtual dj. How about virtual dj working with google drive, or preparing or following playlist from deezer ..

[@digitaldjtips]

We've got some Virtual DJ stuff out there, and definitely think the software is awesome - always way ahead with innovation!

[@djstretchtone9851]

So Virtual DJ works with Google drive?? I use Windows 11 and all of my music is in NTFS. My library is about 2, 3 or 4 Terabytes. Will Virtual DJ support these files? How hard would it be to use Virtual DJ with my NTFS files?

[@DanielleKingdjdinosaur]

nah dont do subs

[@digitaldjtips]

They aren't for everyone

[@giannismavridis]

I don't know ANY other brand that sells hardware and you need to pay a subscription to use its software so you can use its hardware... Most ridiculous idea ever. Now, whenever I have to play at a bar with bar's cdjs I have to pay a subscription or carry the DDJ-XP2 every time to unlock rekordbox. ( I own key licence of older rekordbox that sometime in the near future will not be supported by the updated operating system.)

[@digitaldjtips]

It's the way a lot of software is going, it certainly splits opinion

[@giannismavridis]

@@digitaldjtips maybe but all other softwares have the option to buy a lifetime license too. If rekordbox do the same it will be fine.

[@djdoxblox]

How many companies offer unlimited storage and then flip? Nah, I'm good!

[@digitaldjtips]

Hope that won't be the case here, but this definitely isn't *the* solution for everyone :)

[@doctorflipside]

Not worth it in my opinion. Almost every DJ I know would have a hard drive backed up anyway just in case record Box failed. So most Of them wouldn't be thrilled with paying extra...forget about monthly cmon.... And let's be realistic who doesn't carry their laptop on the road phil? Scott frost hit it on the head subscription overload.

[@digitaldjtips]

Fair enough Paul. Although I know of at least one big name DJ who also happens to be a DDJT tutor who is happy to see this and has started using it...

[@Venomynous]

Just like everything involved with Pioneer, it is overpriced. #AnotherPhilMorseSalesPitch

[@digitaldjtips]

So cynical - we could make quite a pretty penny from advertising I assure you and yet stopped several years ago, believe it or not DJ related companies cover DJ related developments!

[@elliotwilliams8250]

rekordbox, shame on you for forcing us to subscribe to your stupid plans! ridiculous!

[@digitaldjtips]

They're only making those who want to use all the "pro" features subscribe, which will be overkill for many DJs - the regular software is still free :)

[@elliotwilliams8250]

@@digitaldjtips I'm going with djay Pro AI. At least they innovate and are way way cheaper. Guess greed is more important than creating a good product for pioneer.

[@digitaldjtips]

Djay also has a subscription for many functions

[@djvecky1]

dont watch this video..dont waste your time.. 0 info

[@digitaldjtips]

What have we missed that you needed to know?

[@sezjames2472]

Its good but dropbox is shit with pc make sure you turn your computer auto sync options off, even after telling dropbox folder to be online only it would still take space up on my c drive and upload my backups to my pc crashing the computer, still trying to suss it out. Aside that the cloud is slow with rb even with fast Internet so I would always host from a usb drive live as its 4 to 5 sec load time first time in each new session on both computer and nexus controllers which isn't the best I'd like to see Rekordbox update the following: EDIT MODE is slow. It needs to be a bit easier to zoom in and out of wave files without re loading each time. Fade options be nice automatic crossfades etc. Stems mode? When? Backup a playlist and songs to Internal hdd, how? I only have options to backup to an external drive. Midi remapping options to include pitch bend commands would be nice, also I find traktor was a bit more accurate for pitch control also

[@digitaldjtips]

Thanks for sharing this list Sez, some thoughtful suggestions there.