Is this the most embarrassing trail in mountain biking?

[@JeffKendallWeed]

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[@asavage3654]

Appreciate your perspective on this one! I'm going to sedona in november. Very excited to check out all the amazing rock rolls there! I do want to check out the white line and maybe ride it depending on how it looks in person but no pressure!

[@mattgies]

Good timing, since Friday Fails had somebody's bike falling to the bottom of the canyon at White Line this week. There was some interesting discussion of the trial in the comments, and many folks agreeing with you that this trail isn't what MTB should aspire to.

[@mannyfnsc29]

With people always watching, there's just gotta be a way to pull off a crash test dummy off the cliff prank. C'mon Jeff..that'll make the White Line more enjoyable for you and all of us 🤣

[@MrHawkis]

Yeah, but its a mean thing to do to other people who are just out trying to enjoy the sights.

[@dash0173]

I definitely find myself looking to show people what I can do on a bike... or really anything I've been working hard at. sometimes it makes me look dumb, sometimes not. I definitely really appreciate your view on this stuff. most people would say "oh, yeah that was me way up there" when asked by strangers who were obviously watching you but the way you say "no that's mustve been someone else" and then zip off before they can say anything else is honestly very refreshing and grounds me back on earth in a good way. we all need a bit more humility, I think, but it's very hard to get to that point where you actually just do things for yourself and nobody else. mad props to anyone with that kind of mindset. it is not easy

[@matradlinski8084]

Who else thought Jeff was going to ride the Whiteline in reverse? 😆

[@conradcanderle3600]

I appreciate your honesty and ingenuity to do something different on the White Line. I wonder if it would be as popular if it was somewhere where no one could watch??? You always make riding look so easy and fluid. Keep pumping out these kewl videos!

[@sixate]

White Line just isn't for me. Maybe when I was 25, but at 45, job, family, mortgage.... not taking that risk. You make it look so easy.

[@JCintheBCC]

I agree 100%. The fun of riding an off-camber slab of slickrock and then doing a steep rock roll doesn't justify the consequence for screwing up something like the White Line. Take away the crowds and the hype and the White Line is just a sketchy, uninteresting loop.

[@mnmarcus4070]

Absolutely agree. I find unnecessary risk the worst side of mountain biking.

[@yetisiedzinski1007]

Can’t wait for the video of you riding White Line with your 5 year old kid 🤣. Jokes aside… I love your approach to mountain biking and its different aspects. Thanks for another great video.

[@joeyhebert9881]

Thank you for posting. I enjoy your videos.

[@406OutdoorsMT]

Always enjoy watching your videos Jeff, keep up the great work!

[@2WheelKam]

Awesome video. I hope to make it down to Sedona one day to ride those trails.

[@mattdickey2454]

I'm with you. I'd rather be getting air than worrying about falling to my death.

[@franksnyder363]

The fact that this is NOT a concerning ride for you, convinces me that your riding ability and skills are toned down by how smooth you are. You are a beast.

[@Getoutside2day]

Thats awesome Jeff how you called out about the Sedona White-Line. From others POV it does not look all that bad, and the off camber is not as bad as some other trails I have ridden. I am sure the grip on that red rock in Sedona is pretty tacky as well. I hope to ride out in Sedona one day in my lifetime. Cheers buddy!!

[@flynndamsmtb9088]

The fact that Jeff said it wasn’t him when those people asked just shows that he’s doing it for himself and his own enjoyment rather than for others pleasure 👏👏

[@fatbikedaddy8644]

Agreed, he really likes to keep his stunts low profile and secret on KZbin.

[@enzochoi923]

what a nice new take on the infamous white line, I wonder what other famous features and spots have a jib or line that hasn't been ironed out of them yet?

[@lonelytrailsmtb8105]

To me, it depends on the risk. White Line isn’t a trail I’d “risk”. Portal in Moab would probably be my max risk level. But doing something like the White Line really does show the general public what a bike is really capable of as well as the person riding it.

[@TheCrookedWheel]

White line looks 100000000x easier than Portal, Ahab, or Jackson trail with way less exposure.

[@lonelytrailsmtb8105]

@@TheCrookedWheel unfortunately, I’ve only ridden Ahab a few times (absolutely loved riding Ahab) and I didn’t feel that trail really didn’t have that high of a consequence. The one spot of exposure is/was pretty easy to ride I thought. Portal doesn’t look that bad besides the spots they encourage the rider to walk. Also, I have yet to see a video of someone almost dying/falling from the cliff from riding any of those 3 trails.

[@asafcohen3272]

Solving riddles rather than taking risks.* Word to the wise! This 52-yr-old mtber here concurs. *some risk is always involved; I just don't seek to constantly maximize it like some adrenaline junkies i know.

[@adamgroves2811]

It's one those box ticked trails I guess. I've got a few impossible climbs and tight turns on my local loop which are a total buzz but no one else gets it. London to Brighton off road at night was massive fun with a beer on the beach for breakfast but that's definitely box ticked!

[@cancer8343]

Another cool vid from Jeff, just in time for my allnighter! I sure love geography of US, but damn would it be hard to move there, even visit :(

[@miguelortiz4446]

Easy breezy lemon squeezy! Especially if you're Jeff Kendall-Weezy!

[@believe8263]

I rode this trail yesterday. It's SO scary. It's now called "The Brown Line". Sorry.

[@Getoutside2day]

LOL!!! Tell me you did not stain it? LMAO!! Awesome!!

[@believe8263]

@@Getoutside2day Sorry. It's so scary I lost control. Maybe some rain will help clean it off.

[@Slycarlo]

Seth is scared on the whiteline, and jeff just pop a wheelie on the white line

[@gucass]

I guess the next challenge is doing the white line in reverse!

[@ShavingPeggy]

Kendall-Weed !!!! That may be the biggest chesty mount I've seen yet 1:37

[@MTBinKY]

Yeah, that trail is a hard nope from me even if I were 100% confident in my ability to do it safely.

[@VoiceOverTrailReviews]

I’m all for not taking unnecessary risks. I hate coming home injured.

[@scuubasteve123]

Not sure I’d call it the most “embarrassing” trail, but probably one of the most easily recognized lines (from all the videos). For the “average” rider, it would probably rank as one of the top “must do before I die” rides 😂

[@cameronmartin719]

As an average rider, this is a trail you couldn't pay me to ride lol.

[@jeffp5418]

I walked it to check it out last time. It's an interesting line but there are so many fun and much more interesting stuff to ride there.

[@karlellingson7908]

Hi Jeff, been trying to shoot some trail footage of my own to record the trails where I live before I move away. I have a chest-mounted GoPro with a Max Lens mod. What do you use to film chest-mounted footage? Obviously, shakiness is the main enemy. I've been reading about gimbals lately and I'm interested to know if that's something you use. Thanks!

[@PatBK]

Thanks for that! I actually kind of hate that risk-taking-craze. What's the point in riding an easy trail with the only catch, that there's a big cliff to one side? That does not make you a good rider, it's just dangerous. And it's not only the white line, there's a famous one in Madeira and several ones here in the alps. So yeah, technicality over exposure all the way.

[@chrismade123]

how steep is this in degree? do you set your sag lower before doing this? that turn on the frontwheel sure is the scariest part to watch :)

[@BBurton1231]

Frankly, I rather watch the step downs back to Chicken point, the drop into Little Horse, or really one of the big challenges like the last steep/switch backs on Hiline. Love that section of Hiline and then Baldwin to Bhudda Beach. Let's see a tech climb up to Templeton from Bhudda! A secret singletrack connection from Mormon Lake to Munds Wagon trail! I agree that the White Line is overplayed.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks Blair! The climb up Templeton is fun, but not too hard with clipless- I just got it first try on a big ride last week. On flats, I do struggle to get it first go. Climbing up Ridge is still my favorite tech climb in Sedona- but it's hard enough that I only attempt it like once per visit!

[@gregcavanaugh6259]

I'm think your term "publicity stunt" is an apt description (not to downplay the risk at that corner). I think my more recent problem with the MTB trends/community is that everything has to be "gnarly" and that equals risky and generally downhill. I don't know, but I've ridden the White Rim loop in one day, unsupported, several times and I'd argue pedaling for 100miles is more gnarly than riding the rock roll on the Hangover. I think Ryan Palmer's op-ed about ppl climbing on fire roads was a similar sentiment. And having checked out Bentonville recently, we're certainly curating a new generation of MTBers that think trails are normally machine built, flowy, with perfectly banked corners, and built in such a way to minimize the pain of climbing as much as possible.

[@clydes001]

I love the view of this hobby as an opportunity to solve riddles!

[@coryd7762]

Please tell this to my wife. She insists i can never ride it..

[@gravity_flow_ak63]

Yes...Thank you fir finally calling this trail out.

[@Charlotte_MTB]

Hiline in reverse?

[@JeffKendallWeed]

hahahaha I rode Hiline last week, and there were so many hikers coming up it that I realized that the climb opportunity might happen! I dont like to climb popular DH trails where i'm totally against traffic- and its a total PITA to do multiple laps on Hiline, so I haven't played around on it. But if there are tons of hikers, everyone's runs are going to be minimal flow and adrenalin, so with all the over tourism, it might be a fun challenge!

[@alexisonbike3652]

I think you don't realise how much of a beast you are on a bike haha !

[@blameitonben]

What that you last week on Friday Fails? That was embarrassing....

[@slappdaddy8]

What are your favorite trails in Sedona? Anything that is not already super popular? If not for the challenge, maybe for the scenery/adventure?

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Thanks for the Q! I love the three H trails for higher speed stuff, but I have fun on Bolo and Bottom Out too. And Grand Central/Javelina is fun. There's a lotta fun bits for sure!

[@richards6065]

How come more people don’t wear full face helmets? They are so much lighter now. I just spent 7k on new teeth because I thought I could handle any fall. I was wearing a regular open face. Just some thought.

[@boggybigpants9462]

Has anyone been injured doing the white line ?

[@JeffKendallWeed]

I don't think so, the exposure and consequence helps weed out the folks that don't have any business playing around up there.

[@ridecrashrepeat3207]

I have thought about riding trails with a baby carrier and a doll...just to freak a few people. 🤔 👍

[@SnootchieBootchies27]

I'm with you in general. I really don't understand the reverance this piece of "trail" gets. Lots of things that have high consequence, but require little or medium skill tend to attract a lot of attention.

[@johnnydoe66]

Like the old quote, "Different strokes for different folks", ride what you like and within your limits. It's better to be able to ride again than to make a ride your last. My motto is an old Dirty Harry quote, "A man's got to know his limitations"

[@TrailFeatures]

I've had a bit of an unpopular opinion for a while: *Content creators need to stop hyping the white line.* That's pretty much the opposite of what this video was, to be sure. But much like creators have been put on blast for outing bandit trails and getting them shut down, I think too many non-pro riders (or those not under the observation of pro-riders) have leveraged the trail for some extra views and it's kinda diminishing the risk factor here. It's getting to the point where every Sedona MTB Fest I'm worried we're going to hear about some teenager that met a tragic end trying to film a viral video to jumpstart their IG or KZbin Account. But maybe I'm just overly opinionated. 😅

[@brianrand7191]

Agreed. This video is hilarious. JKW -“This trail is so dumb because it screams look at me” Also JKW “you may remember my other popular video where I rode a wheelie on this trail. That video got clicks, so I’m back at the same location.” Also JKW - “how can I make a career out of wheelies and stoppies and then claim I don’t care for flashy riding, while riding a high profile trail.” Come on. Give the viewers more credit.

[@TrailFeatures]

@Brian Rand This wasn't a dig on Jeff. In fact it was a refreshing take on the white line and avoiding taking needless risks. This is why I said *_non-pro_* riders need to stop filming it for clicks, it's diminishing the risk of the feature. That's what I'm saying. Jeff can display more bike skills in 50ft of riding than I'll likely ever learn in my life being in my mid 30s. He's one of the few people that can ride the white line like he's riding a sidewalk. Even then, he doesn't take unneeded risks.

[@edmundoco9237]

Great vid and msg.

[@johntanchin2545]

this is what i like about Jeff, very honest, no dramas, keeping it real with the reviews. and ofcourse, the awesome riding skills. you do make everything look easy!

[@martinschwartz7342]

I see the potential danger in the White Line Trail but I don't see the fun. If you go stand on the edge of a tall building, on one foot, you can get the same thrill of danger and the same amount of fun without having to travel to Sedona.

[@matt-g-recovers]

I hate the desert

[@mountaingoat8788]

I do not Like being on Stage lol even if I Know I can..

[@troycarpenter3675]

Looks relatively easy and terrifying.

[@BikeLifewithRob]

I’m not sure…maybe something cooler in the woods.

[@JeffKendallWeed]

Yeah I prefer the more interesting trails.

[@jrldude8719]

I don't know- this guy might have a different opinion of the trail... kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYnadWOboLmJp5Y

[@lifebehindbarsonemansstory2189]

Overrated not my cup of tea but sick

[@drwang699]

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[@jacksoncope7998]

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[@enallane5538]

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[@stephanieperkin4083]

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