Is This the Most Lethal 300 Blackout Round!?

[@jbrown6030]

Lehigh made a 78 grain called close quarters... that looked unbeatable.. Amazing performance. dont see them anymore though.

[@peterdarlington4117]

I have a box of 100 rounds I need to load.

[@Gurn_Blanston]

Lol. The subsonic 190 does EXACTLY what you said it doesn't do- it went all the way through two whole blocks of gel.

[@wigon]

If the base is still trucking through two gel blocks it means that it would have plenty of energy to go through a lot of walls and/or people. But as you guys are a small ammo manufacturer maybe you might listen. What is NOT on the market currently is a light grain (50-75 grain) round in .300 blackout that will punch past 12" of gel but that will also not go past 17" and...more importantly, that will dump all its energy if it hits solid objects. Some people may say, "Then get a 5.56mm rifle" and they would be right, however it is nice to have a rifle in one caliber that does everything. Likewise nobody is making such a caliber for 7.62x39 AK47's. There was one company that made a 50 grain 7.62x39 that was perfect (along with many other types of ammo) but they seem to have gone out of business. I'd kill to have a 50-75 grain, fast fragmenting round in 7.62x39 and would pay a premium for such rounds designed specifically home defense. The problem with heavy grain defensive rounds like what you demonstrate in this video, is that despite the impressive fragmentation, you can't escape physics. That heavy mass at high velocity is going to keep on trucking into a neighbor's home, ESPECIALLY if you miss your target and it just goes through solid barriers like plywood and aluminum siding. So there is a BIG niche market for light-grain .30 caliber home defense rounds that NOBODY is filling. Again many of us serious about home defense, would pay a premium for such a round.

[@Modjammit]

Liberty Defense .300 AAC?

[@wigon]

@@Modjammit That's about the best that's out there currently at 96 grains. Still a bit too heavy as even a 77 grain OTM 5.56mm round over-penetrates too much for home defense in my opinion. But... if it's designed to fragment quickly that certainly would be better than most .300 blackout rounds for home defense. I may pick up some of these in the near future.

[@zekethefishgeek8690]

I use an 85gr Maker Trex bullet... works great.

[@joltran3276]

Here from the future. Check out gorilla ammo

[@Just_a_guy093]

@wigon liberty ammunition overwatch. 78 grain. But just fyi. Bought some trying for my Aug a3m1 16” 300blk barrel and I have malfunctions. Gassing to the max they have issues feeding. Idk if dwell time is an issue with a round so light at 16” but I can’t “full auto” semi fire as fast as possible. Idk if it’s because of the overall bullet length or the dwell time but yeah the only super light 300blk I’ve tried fail for reliability of feeding out of a 16” barrel

[@SaltyMaverick]

Uh...didn't the base of that "Raptor" bullet penetrate a lot farther than that FMJ? Feels like you just defeated your own argument with the performance shown.

[@JohnZ556]

*Talking how the round won't over pen and therefore ideal for SD* *Base of the bullet went through 32inches of gel and exited* 👋Nice try, but NO.

[@klaymoon1]

Looks like your self defense ammo would have penetrated the target? At least one piece of it.

[@sonoranarmament4017]

Yes, the base of the projectile can carry through with little to no energy after the petals brake off. It travels straight allowing predictability of the round while the fmj randomly veered out the side of the gel block.

[@the420gorilla5]

How long are the blocks? The self defense ammo looks like it almost went out the second block. So for self defense it would definitely be hitting a wall.

[@michaelssword5329]

If they didn't break off, wouldn't the round slow down more? Would a higher twist rate, like a 1 to 3, help in manufacturing a round? Also can you throw a link up for the web page, I would like to try the consistency of your ammo. Thanks

[@itsreallykyle5818]

I really really want these but I can't find a single piece of information on them or a review about any of there products and it's kind of a turn off. Has anyone bought these before? Out of 3k people who watched this video someone had to buy them

[@jasondelo4354]

The range ammo works better for SD than the one you said is for SD lol.

[@justinbouvier132]

Uhhh what are you talking about bro. Straight through. That bullet went through 2 blocks. GTFO here. Ill take LEHIGH EXTREME EXPANSION

[@ElderSilverFox]

Sadly the raptors cost 3 dollars a round!

[@jbrown6030]

screw that

[@robbledot7290]

bro what was that intro 😂😂

[@sonoranarmament4017]

It was an attempt to be like @garandthumb 😂

[@Gmar69]

@@sonoranarmament4017 You don't have be slapstick like Garandthumb. I don't really like his goofy antics lately.

[@markpack5792]

If you're afraid that somebody's gonna get hurt and don't shoot. Problem solved

[@markpack5792]

Dude an attendant casualty happens get over it

[@375Cheytac]

300 blackout for plinking? I guess if you’re a millionaire 😅

[@calebcrilow7505]

What else are you really going to use it for unless its a legal round for hunting in your state? Only other reason is fun range round thats different from 5.56.

[@TruthGotGunz]

@@calebcrilow7505are you that uneducated on the 300 blackout?! 🤦🏿‍♂️ do your research

[@peterdarlington4117]

LOL bud take the video down I’m embarrassed for you!

[@cpvsgvmnt2116]

Lol. That 125 grain did way better than the 190 grain "self defense raptor" .. gtfoh

[@sonoranarmament4017]

If you notice, the 125gr FMJ veers out of the side of the gel block. This creates an unpredictable flight path which is a major no no for a self defense round. For example, if it were to veer out of a target unpredictably and strike an innocent bystander. What criteria might you be basing your statement on?

[@cpvsgvmnt2116]

@@sonoranarmament4017 you did see your base of the 190 grain go through 2 gel blocks right? I mean, good separation.. but that base is a problem.

[@theamericanstory6482]

I like the 190 .. I’m interested in a 80 grain 300

[@cpvsgvmnt2116]

@@theamericanstory6482 I didn't know there was an 80 Grain. I've been sold on Corbon 125 gr MPR. You like that 80 Grain round?

[@theamericanstory6482]

@@cpvsgvmnt2116 you’re not wrong. There isn’t. But the ballistics would be insane on a otbt

[@jozefhorvat3625]

👍👍👍

[@DonEmbrey]

With very light frangible bullets, I think it would make a great ranch rifle: It would be very stupid to use it for Home defense, but it would work obviously