Is This The Perfect All-Road Bike? Standert Pfadfinder review

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@denisspratt926 Ай бұрын

Standert has some really cool bikes. Nice colors and in steel and aluminium. Definitely some I will consider for my next bike.

@Daniel-yf9iy Ай бұрын

I live in Colorado Springs and rode my Kona Rove yesterday (11/30/24) in the Black Forest with a lot of snow still everywhere… freezing 🥶

@n22pdf Ай бұрын

Looks very nice.. Columbus spirit rides lovely I have it on my Condor Acciaio 😊 ❤ Pete 🚴🏻👍

@maxlloyd3740 Ай бұрын

Looks lovely! Would certainly be considering this if i didn't have my perfect all season bike already!

@onthemoonprod Ай бұрын

I got mine (1200€ discount frame) built by myslef, very good bike, love it, this bike is for someone who really love bike and his phylophy

@onthemoonprod Ай бұрын

I find that it corresponds more to the definition of a durable bike, with a high-end metal, actual, robust, much less polluting than carbon, it is overall efficient, but it is above all a bike with which one can accomplish much more than riding fast. I associate it more with a life companion. I took this brand, but I think that for a Mason, a crust bike we could say the same thing. My reflection comes mainly from the fact that it is said that it is expensive compared to a carbon, a crux…. but a bike like that will last a very long time when you think about it, it is a better investment in the long term. with Standert, we are no longer obliged to have an “old school” steel bike when we want steel, we can have a high-performance and beautiful steel bike. Thx Standert

@mikekow_ Ай бұрын

Fantastic review!

@ianjapal5377 Ай бұрын

Steel is Real…Gorgeous bike..not sure why so many negative people here in the comments

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

People like to have a moan don't they ;)

@eugeneyem Ай бұрын

Been riding this bike for a couple years now (previous iteration with less mounts and no internal routing) and I'm very happy with it. It's truly a jack of all trades, master of none kind of frame, which makes it perfect for an average Joe like me. Yes, it's heavier and slower than my carbon bike, but I notice that I'm reaching for it more often, because it's just so damn comfortable and fun to ride. Standert even lets you pick the tires - 34mm Vittoria (as in the review) or 36mm challenge Strada Bianca and if you set them up tubeless it's a joy to ride.

@ShreddyPendergrass Ай бұрын

Hey that’s my bike 😍

@markwright8030 Ай бұрын

Hi David Very informative video content as always 👍 and well worth watching if you’re looking for a steel all rounder 🙂🚴‍♂️

@jrwnd99 Ай бұрын

What about your favorite Fairlight Secan ? This feels like a commercial Dave.

@samweis9166 Ай бұрын

standert is a marketing company - crazy how they even sell these things...

@LifeCycle1978 Ай бұрын

I don’t disagree but throw out the name of your bike, any bike, and it’s the same story.

@Gramkan Ай бұрын

The bikes are premium, what are you on about 😂

@rrluthi1 Ай бұрын

Hey so every bike is essentially the same as far as geometry these days ... a degree or 2 here a few millimeters there ... but what separates bikes is the materials, feature details, the paint and the story you can tell about the product (marketing). As far as the feature details on this one, I like the tire clearance and the internal cable routing. I like the paint. The marketing is clearly top notch. I LOVE the material choice (Columbus Spirit). Ticks a lot of boxes for $2.1k usd. The only other frames in this category you can buy off the shelf that I know of are Ritchey, Fairlight, or Mason. None of those feature the styling or the internal cable routing. I think the frame price is similar as well.

@deanf2259 Ай бұрын

It's a stunner.

@gamecat1923 Ай бұрын

That Deda Superbox system is so ugly looking on round tubed bikes.

@flexboss Ай бұрын

Ticks all my boxes for a year round allroad bike with the right looks.

@stevek4382 Ай бұрын

I think the dumbest thing bike makers did was internal routing cables. If you’re not a professional bike rider all it does is make repairs difficult and time consuming.

@frankvanthof4562 Ай бұрын

the fact that people don't seem to understand this is beyond me.

@dominikhinterreiter603 Ай бұрын

hello I come from the bicycle industry, sorry we only introduced the internally routed cables to keep drivers with low mechanic skills away, it worked

@marcokalle2452 25 күн бұрын

It's a nice looking bike, but what I don't understand really is that they integrated basically all cables, but there aren't any ports in the frame or fork for integrated cable routing for dynamo lighting, which in my opinion is sort of a miss if you market this bike for allroad/long distance riding...

@rrrrrrikke Ай бұрын

Don’t choose the Challenge Strada Bianca Tyres they offer in their built options unless you ride in dry conditions only. They are incredibly fast and supple but have unpredictable grip in cornering. When it is wet they are downright scary to ride when going around coners.

@otopeixe Ай бұрын

Crazy world... Near 5000 for a steel bike...

@Kelvin_c Ай бұрын

It's not so crazy once you understand the grades of steel that are available. Not all steel tubes for bikes are created equal.

@andreaswiklund7197 Ай бұрын

People happily pay 50000 for a car. I buy my car for 40000 and my bike for 5000 and still have 5000 for a nice bike vacation.

@AMehta-ok5pf Ай бұрын

Frame itself is only 2300. That is pretty good for bike. With that said, for that same money you can get a Daccordi steel frame (similar tubing) with geometry you want with your choice of paint.

@Gramkan Ай бұрын

So a 5K carbon frame made with ethically questionable labour isn’t crazy? 🤦🏽‍♂️

@edymarkonthego4096 Ай бұрын

Impressively expensive for steel frame.

@stevekelly6544 Ай бұрын

Standert makes really nice stuff!

@sebastianm2381 Ай бұрын

9.5kg for that is crazy heavy. My custom steel gravel bike with a full blown gravel fork with mounts, with 3 bottle cages a front rack and full coverage mudguards plus mudflaps is 10.1kg. And it cost me probably around half of what this thing goes for.

@sefalcantara Ай бұрын

how would you rank these 3? mason resolution standert pfadfinder fairlight strael

@Quizmate1 Ай бұрын

Strael v3 for me 👍

@Quizmate1 Ай бұрын

@jooohan-i9o I don't have to. There's no way I'd buy a metal bike with an integrated front end. The Mason would be my next pick, as like the Strael it would be easy to maintain and fulfils the brief of being a durable 4 season road bike. At Standert prices I could go full custom steel and have it just how I like.

@Quizmate1 Ай бұрын

@jooohan-i9o Secan is a gravel bike that will do road, and according to reviews, it does it well. Strael is probably best for road, given its geometry, although the room for wider tyres means it can handle the rubbish roads here in the UK

@l.d.t.6327 Ай бұрын

@@Quizmate1 I think Standert does an OK price on their Triebwerk, but that's an end-of-season sale (around 1600 for disc, 1300 for rim, but that last one features a Chris King headset so really not too bad for that price). I also think you can't really get many full custom steel bikes for less than 2000 these days. But I agree the new Pfadfinder (and also their alloy frames at around 2000 or higher...!) are way overpriced. They obviously try to add a 'Berlin-based' premium to the already hefty price, but honestly they should do this frame for around 1500 and nothing more. The thing is that they may have enough customers who are willing to pay these prices, so I can't blame them if they get them sold...!

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

The Standert has the biggest tyre clearance of the three bikes. The Mason is a slower steering bike than the Standert in my experience. Both the Mason and Standert are made in Europe if that means anything to you as well. And of course the Standert is the only bike with internal routing

@BikeLife154 Ай бұрын

Terrible echo on the audio. Beautiful bike, but don't think the square stem goes with the round tubes.

@filipe.goulao Ай бұрын

that set of wheels. What the hell? Scope! check out the price tag!

@mikekow_ Ай бұрын

Dumb (or maybe just odd) question, what kind of pants are those? Nice fit! Patagonia?

@loeurnchim213 Ай бұрын

Yaasss super Nice

@pumpkinmeerkat3692 Ай бұрын

nothing like classic geo + round tubes paired with a chunky head tube + brick shaped stem/headset...

@nathanvrvrt Ай бұрын

I don’t get people get mad because of the price. A bike made in europe is always more expensive than asia and if you buy steel in europe it aint cheap either. Steel is super for flex. I think 5800 is a good price.

@vbnxt Ай бұрын

So many contradictions in one product - A comfort focused all-rounder all-road bike with an integrated headset to make it easier to mount handlebar bags that for some reason but not for touring; needs high-end wheels and groupset but is not for racing, at a cost of €4.5 and beyond. A living peddling contradiction - the designers let the joke slip in the name itself: FAD-finder

@marcolgyrubish9498 Ай бұрын

The question is, is there anything else on the market checking all the same boxes as this bike in terms of build? Believe it or not, the spec and concept behind this bike is nearing dream bike for me. To me, it looks like the ultimate training bike that can get out 365, while still maintaining a wicked pace. Being fitted on this, then to sit on an aggressive race bike likely won't feel so foreign. I'm happy to see companies bridge the gap

@vbnxt Ай бұрын

@marcolgyrubish9498 if I were looking for that proverbial dream bike - I'd go custom, not retail.

@LifeCycle1978 Ай бұрын

Then it’s fairly clear that this bike isn’t for you. I’m always confused when cyclist get spun up over some brands efforts to sell bikes and stay in business. It’s no different than any other industry.

@vbnxt Ай бұрын

It's a niche bike but marketed at the masses @@LifeCycle1978

@vbnxt Ай бұрын

@@tongotongo3143 doesnt sound like youre in the market for a bike :/

@alzaisnekram2167 Ай бұрын

The problem with Standert is how much they ask for the product it is. Also the geometry has nothing to do with a 'big miles bike'

@AG-el6vt Ай бұрын

Lmfao you better get the fit spot on with that headset.

@Co820 Ай бұрын

Is this 56 or 58 Size in the Video?

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

@Co820 Ай бұрын

@ And the legs from the driver an the Seat high ?

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

@@Co820 saddle height is 75.5cm

@RafaSplanB Ай бұрын

I prefer my Strael 3.0...

@jevgeniardassov Ай бұрын

How is it more expensive than a Specialized Crux with same spec??? 🤯

@DR_1_1 Ай бұрын

Built in Europe, not China?

@matthewlewis2072 Ай бұрын

Is that rust on the drop-out?!?!!

@l.d.t.6327 Ай бұрын

looks like copper paste.

@kesavek11 Ай бұрын

They are stainless steel dropouts

@Enigmavelo Ай бұрын

My beautifully crafted titanium bike frame is £100 cheaper???

@scoopermg8226 Ай бұрын

'Old man titanium'

@markfrost2003 Ай бұрын

"Carbon road bikes go out of date every year"... what on earth are you talking about Dave?

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

Just mean how there are new designs and colours every year - there'll be a Tarmac SL9 out to replace the SL8 at some point in the future making the SL8 look old, that sort of thing. Like when a new iPhone or Audi A4 for example

@milkbunnies Ай бұрын

Mason Cycles does it better….

@MichaelSmith-em7pv Ай бұрын

I'm going custom AliExpress titanium build for under $ 3600 USD for complete 🤯

@gaza4543 Ай бұрын

I don’t know David that’s a lot a lot of money for a steel bike. A tcr is cheaper let alone a Mason.

@danielt91 Ай бұрын

The likely reason your nose is running like a tap when it's cold could be because of rhinitis. I have that, it's the sole reason I DO NOT enjoy riding in the cold. Basically I need to stop and wipe my nose every 5 freaking minutes. And if course there's the problem with storing/accessing the wipes, throwing them in a garbage bin or putting them somewhere in my backpack where they won't make a mess being moist and disgusting. 😊

@davidarthur Ай бұрын

Yup, chronic rhinitis I was informed by a doctor when I was a lad. Right pain it is. As for dealing with it when riding, I just angle my head to one side and clear my nose in one go - making sure there's nobody behind me haha! Have you tried that, easier than stopping

@danielt91 Ай бұрын

@davidarthur I honestly haven't, but it feels too liquid-y I think. It's not like my nose is completely blocked, air can still pass, so blowing through the nose probably won't do much. I'm also worried it can get on my chin, neck, clothes which also isn't ideal. 😄

@Quizmate1 Ай бұрын

Cables or hoses running through the headtube have no place on a metal bike!

@andreaslindenthal6654 21 күн бұрын

At this price range I'd go titanium.

@patrickoshea9398 Ай бұрын

That aint a 'level top tube'.

@philtomlinson8220 Ай бұрын

Nor are all the tubes completely round, but I get @davidarthur point. It's a pretty classic profile.

@danishahmadkhan Ай бұрын

Love your videos, David but this one felt more like a love letter than a review. The lack of 40mm tyre clearance is a proper oversight but let's talk about the real elephant in the room-the price. €2300 for a steel frame and a full build starting at €4900 with alloy wheels and 105Di2? Seriously? At that price point, you could be riding a quality carbon bike with 105 Di2 and carbon wheels like Giant Defy Advanced 0 - which also offers a lifetime warranty. Steel has great potential but brands like Standert seem to be pricing themselves out of contention. If they charge carbon bike money for metal, they're hardly setting themselves up for long-term success. Here's hoping the metal bike brands wake up-this could be their moment for disruption and a great comeback.

@Kelvin_c Ай бұрын

This is where we lack critical information about steel bikes and their source. Different steel tubes used for steel bikes are priced differently. If standert and their range of bikes were to be constructed by the cheapest grade of steel tubes, the price could have easily been halved. If you have a bone to pick, if you think price of steel bikes are insanely overpriced, then you should start with steel tubes company such as Reynolds, Columbus, True Tempei, Kaisei. Now that you're at their throats, might as well go after artisanal bike builders who used the same steel tubes but priced their bikes 2x as much or more than Standert. Pretty sure they too need to "wake up" as well.

@kesavek11 Ай бұрын

Made a Columbus steel frame in EU including paint and let me know on what price you end up 😉

@danishahmadkhan Ай бұрын

@@Kelvin_c Yes, steel tubes vary in price, but the point still stands-charging €5K for a steel bike with alloy wheels is a stretch, no matter what tubing you use. If you're going to defend the price, don’t forget that many artisan builders, though pricier, often provide custom builds and craftsmanship that justify their costs. Standert, on the other hand, isn’t exactly in that league. Let's not act like the tube manufacturer is the sole culprit here; pricing strategy plays a huge part.

@danishahmadkhan Ай бұрын

@@kesavek11 ah, the classic "European prices" excuse. Sure, labour and materials cost more, but €5K for a mid-range steel bike with alloy wheels? Really? Taiwan is not far from CZ in terms of cost. There's room for a more sensible price.

@Kelvin_c Ай бұрын

@@danishahmadkhan fair enough. I don’t agree but that’s how KZbin comments go. We’ll never come to an agreement 😊