Is This the PINNACLE of AAA Slop???

[@emulationemperor8924]

"Hey chatGPT, mix overwatch, valorant, and guardians of the galaxy. Fill it with quips"

[@Oppurtunafish]

TBF Concord started development in 2018. Chat GPT came out in 2022

[@5095smf]

​@@Oppurtunafish it's a joke, though

[@johnsherfey3675]

​@@OppurtunafishWhen did gtp 1 come out?

[@heroichitsuji]

@@OppurtunafishThanks for the correction, I almost believed that’s what actually happened here!

[@LaMarcheFutilé101]

@@Oppurtunafish It's very generous of you to believe that Sony, renowned company with good morals and good ideas, wouldn't fire every single writer four years into the development cycle and replace them all with an untested, unfunctional, unimpressive word salad machine because "AI is hot right now."

[@Brindlebrother]

This the type of game where one of the main characters will 100% say, "Oh, you've got to be kidding me" after the villain gets back up after presumably being defeated.

[@pillowmint4622]

I've noticed this weird aversion to blood and swearing all these games have. it's supposedly marketed as a game to older people who love epic open worlds or competitive shooters, but then they don't even say "shit" or show even the slightest blood splatter effect on an enemy kill, not even in a different alien color. imo, there's not even a point in super high, realistic-looking graphics and having characters say super violent things and threats if you aren't gonna have blood or let them swear. why even have them make these super-violent threats or have a realistic-looking world, then?

[@SomeYouTubeTraveler]

​@@pillowmint4622 It's because they're trying to steal the Fortnite kids. Target _all_ the demographics!

[@NeilHaskins]

@@pillowmint4622 Hey, not all of us adults are potty-mouths.

[@pillowmint4622]

@@NeilHaskins but you'd think at least one out of the numerous gun-toting bounty hunters would be...

[@BulbaWhat98]

“He’s right behind me, isn’t he?”

[@runeias]

I think Frank Zappa said it best when he said that in the early days of music production the executives simply did not care if a song was good or not, as long as it sold, so they wouldn't meddle in the production of said song. Now the producers think they know what makes a good song which has led to almost all songs to sound similar, with almost no unique sound. Just like the music industry, the game industry is showing signs of corporate meddling which has caused many of the new games produced to be unimaginative shlock with no creativity to be found.

[@drenrin2120]

Exactly this. Really couldn't have chosen a better quote, either.

[@therwfer]

It got us to a point, where you can't turn on the radio, unless you live in a major city that has some sort of left-field station. Music is being shoved out like never before, 99% of it awful paint by the numbers eat dirt you plebs BS. But thanks to that remaining 1% we have a never ending pool of great music for every taste imaginable. And honestly, I can live with that pretty well. If games go the same way - and it looks a lot like they will - I'll have nothing to complain about. Just gotta close my ears a lot and go LALALALALALALA

[@GalladeTheWarrior]

You should look up how CEO's actually get paid. You're almost spot on with your observation; They meddle not just because they think they know what will sell, they meddle to artificially inflate stock prices which directly increases their paycheck. Blizzard CEO even got a bonus based on MTX sales

[@CJ-wh7ik]

Plus, the devs suck. Hardly anyone has backbone to push their ideas and passion (or lack of thereof) in 3A gaming industry. Cogs that are so ecstatic of nailing a well paid job in gaming industry they think they've made it and don't need to push no more.

[@Neko_Medic]

Then you have Nintendo pulling original stuff 5 times a year.

[@Stormkyleis]

They scientifically engineered a game to make me as uninterested as possible

[@jjay350]

The definition of made to please everybody and appealing to nobody.

[@flyingplantwhale545]

Yeah, they've truly perfected their craft

[@radiantveggies9348]

Good people support any game that prioritizes diversity. Importance for me is diversity > > graphics >story >gameplay> music

[@holidaygirl-1225]

@@radiantveggies9348bait used to be believable

[@birdflox1337]

@@radiantveggies9348 hilarious dude. Now say something you really mean.

[@mr.cheesytoad5845]

I love how "this looks like Marvel" has become an actual insult lol

[@fernandosepulveda7297]

It's not necessarily an insult to marvel. He just means it looks like a knock off marvel.

[@JimmehRulez]

@@fernandosepulveda7297 thats what he meant yeah

[@saithvenomdrone]

I don’t like Marvel movies, so it is an insult to them

[@BaronSterling]

Modern Marvel *is* an insult.

[@Pizza7478]

I'm just waiting for a Marvel movie to come out and everyone to be like "This looks like Marvel" lol

[@theman6422]

This is the Morbius of video games. Its a piece of media based around trends seen in the industry that suits believed too much in and will pay for it when it gets no traction. I will not be surprised if people start Concording on their consoles when they see Lennox yell “ITS CONCORDIN’ TIME!”

[@prolattee]

This game is not even worth the effort to meme it

[@hypsin0]

I'm personally thinking that this will just be another Lawbreakers - dead on arrival, remembered as a footnote in the history of the industry

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

We call it: The Concordance!

[@ARStudios2000]

Speaking from the future here. I can safely say, this game didn't even generate those memes. The memes it DID generate were 300 times funnier

[@andrewhayden9896]

You know a game is cooked when devs come on camera and speak about the game in vague, nonsense corporate speech such as "it's innovation you can feel" or "we combined art and cutting edge tech to deliver an immersive experience". Versus a company like say fromsoft, they casually drop some of the coolest gameplay footage you ever laid your eyes upon without saying a word and they just let the work speak for its freaking self.

[@ausgod538]

Fromsoftware is japanese, they don't explain or think in the same way as americans, even when they do generic things

[@EMLtheViewer]

It’s not helped when a game is initially revealed with a cinematic trailer that features no gameplay, and we’re not even sure of the genre. It’s fine if it’s a sequel because the premise of the game is already established, but if this is the first or only installment in its franchise, then we need to see the game first, cinematics second.

[@chiquita683]

Yup, can't wait for this whole development team to get fired! 😂 Y'all cooked

[@fatyoshi1456]

Its the video game equivelant of a "hacker" character in a movie that only speaks in buzzwords

[@GhostLight06]

@@chiquita683No need to be so gleeful.

[@locustofchiron]

I like the way penny arcade put it: "Concord feels like a punishment for something, but I don't know what we did wrong."

[@rwberger6]

You continued to support overwatch even after it became an obvious low effort cashgrab, that's what you did wrong. So now you get the low effort overwatch clones.

[@allicanseeissh1t118]

​@@rwberger6holy based.

[@Irish_Enderman]

​@@rwberger6 honestly, I don't get why people play overwatch, what about it makes it any different from games like concord? The only class based team shooter I think is genuinely great is Team Fortess 2, despite the current bot problems

[@Chlocean]

​@@Irish_EndermanTHANK YOU! Everyone seems to forget about TF2 in these discussions. Or even TFC. They had soul because they were made not to be Overwatch, they were made to be Team Fortress. If anything it was inspired by Quake Arena.

[@Irish_Enderman]

@@Chlocean ikr? It's consistently one of the most popular games on steam yet it seems somewhat forgotten at the same time and I don't know how or why, it's one of my favourite fps games

[@sansfromcoolmathgames]

the logo unironically makes me think of a logo on a credit card

[@arboris128]

Glad I wasn't the only one.

[@Mittens...]

ISP-ass logo

[@m.dave2141]

Absolute garbage logo design, and im not even trying to be mean, just being honest.

[@bonehed1]

@@yomanyo327 lennox is just the speedster guy's name

[@emptylyles]

Mastercard's logo in the year 2100

[@davetoms1]

Game executives literally becoming the *Principal Skinner* meme: _"Am I so out of touch? No, it's the players who are wrong."_

[@aantony2001]

But they aren't wrong. They know this demographic doesn't like this, they just don't care. There are enough whales with enough money to spend on a whim that make this stuff profitable. It's similarly to the feeling the rest of the world often has for the USA's commercial habits driving so much of the market, because these consumers have more money.

[@LaMarcheFutilé101]

@@aantony2001 The thing is, though, for most of these games it _isn't_ profitable. It is for a very small few of them that become wildly successful, but just look back to the past two years- there have been dozens upon dozens of live-service games made by major studios that have flopped just in that short time period alone. The companies want "live service" to mean "infinite money engine that runs forever," and what it actually means is "low-tier time waster." And players are _painfully_ aware of this fact, which is why most live-service games are bombing, hard. Whales can sustain stuff like microtransaction-ladden gacha games where the costs are low and there's plenty of churn in the player base. Relying on them for a huge AAA live-service multiplayer game like this is almost always a failure, though. And not just in the sense of not taking the top slot in the market, most of them are financial failures that overall lose the company money. They would literally have been better off burying the money in a hole than they would making this game.

[@AdumbroDeus]

@@aantony2001 that's not how it works though. You can't make a game that only whales will be interested in because people coming in intending to be whales are only interested in dominating other players and the other types of whales are regular players whose barriers they gradually break down using manipulative monetization. If you can't attract regular players then you can't attract whales.

[@josiahws5]

​@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq704 you bring shame to the name of Da Roach Dogg Jr.

[@JorguinTorpedo-ff5vk]

more like AM OUT OF TOUCH? NO! YOU'RE OUT OF TIMEEEEE

[@Namingway248]

"5v5 hero shooter" is the "openworld+crafting system" of this generation

[@femboygorou]

gearbox tried almost this exact same thing with battleborn almost a decade ago, it’s been a thing for a little while

[@hurgcat]

except open world+crafting system is normally decently fun hahahaha

[@blizyon30fps86]

@@hurgcatdepends, there was a point in time where literally EVERYBODY was trying to make “open world + crafting” because of Minecraft, but it turned out to be just a soulless cash grab with nothing new to say or offer

[@hurgcat]

@blizyon30fps86 oh I was just talking in terms of shoe horned implementations, you can tack on crafting and open worlds tend to make games boring, but the 5v5 tf/ow style is so hard to pull off right it creates true shite

[@XDarkEcho]

@@femboygorou Battleborn was more...MOBA meets Hero Shooter, kind of like Paragon, and at least Battleborn a Story Mode players could play through, instead of just "here you go, have fun with barebones PvP".

[@blitz342]

This aged like a fine wine. Servers shutting down September 6th, refunds will be issued. It’s already no longer available for purchase.

[@zephdoesthings]

"Thank you for not giving your strong female protagonist (TM) an undercut. That must have taken restraint."

[@austinreed7343]

That's what they call it?

[@XDarkEcho]

I thought it was called a Pixie Cut? Huh, the more you know, I guess. But I swear, if they add a Black guy with dreads + undercut, like they've been doing for EVERY Black character since Killmonger...well, I won't care, but it's gotten to see just like the women with undercuts.

[@foureyesisafish7968]

Undercut’s specifically the shaven back, and it’s not just found in pixie cuts. Pixie cut is a top tier hair cut tho

[@boobabloobi]

@@XDarkEchoan undercut is basically a pixie cut except the sides are shaven

[@Jolis_Parsec]

I gave my Cal Kestis an undercut in Jedi Survivor and immediately thought “wow, he looks like a complete d-bag now”. 😂

[@thejaguar3191]

7:23 "It's a product of this media machine created by old dudes in suits pondering 'what do hu-mans like?' and instead of asking actual people, they look to what other old dudes in suits have produced, so the machine only feeds into itself, creating a neverending feedback loop of recycled ideas that audiences don't even like anymore." I feel like this statement nailed the state of most modern AAA games these days.

[@geschnitztekiste4111]

AI moment

[@Jackspiring]

And movies

[@Shnarfbird]

To be fair some of those 'dudes in suits' are 32-year-old 'sensitivity consultants' intent on sucking the soul of of all they touch

[@Shnarfbird]

To be fair, some of those 'dudes in suits' are 'sensitivity consultants' whose entire career is a make-work project

[@Punkqurupeco]

@@Shnarfbird whose entire career is *Ruin upcoming* projects

[@shreckwes]

A wise man once said: “It’s no longer even a snake eating its own tail, it’s a jackal eating its own vomit.”

[@JoshuaJacobs83]

Who said that?

[@peanutdecided6256]

🤣😂😂😂🤣 i love this

[@metaloverlord7465]

My God that is GLORIOUS.

[@fallenstars8775]

Who's that wise man?

[@YouVSMeTV]

“Shiny Garbage” is the most apt way of describing the current state of AAA gaming I have heard yet.

[@Rocketcow-dx1jd]

At least actual shiny garbage has more appeal to me than this travesty of an MTX, Battle pass, Boring Daily quest ridden, FOMO, manipulative, Stationary bike grind time sink of a game.

[@AshleysBrother]

"neon vomit" as a certain tall texan would say

[@Rocketcow-dx1jd]

@@AshleysBrother The vomit is a biproduct of seeing this game. And its not neon, Its only pretty and glows when im happy.

[@Nolan14235]

A polished turd is still a turd

[@zannrazor8569]

Inside you are two Arlos, Yippie and Woof

[@Dark_Jaguar]

That story turns out was never some Native American proverb. It's just a bit of fakelore. Now me, I got two cows inside me, because I had a burger and shake earlier.

[@mikejr7727]

Ones excited, the other is a dog.

[@shytendeakatamanoir9740]

​@@mikejr7727I mean, the term "cynical" comes from dog after all

[@Jackspiring]

🤨

[@Gloomdrake]

@@Dark_Jaguarwere people claiming it was? I thought it was just making fun of edgy shirts

[@spiderdude2099]

I feel like the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie is the film with THE MOST people not understanding WHY it was charming and resonated with audiences. Every poor imitation misses the heart, and the fact that at its core, there was real chemistry between the actors and good writing.

[@RobotScarlet]

They copy how the characters started and it never goes beyond that. The growth they have is never acknowledged, it's like they only remember the start of the 1st movie and ignore the other 2 when they were far stronger.

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

It rode on the coattails of the previous MCU movies which is why it was instantly accepted and it contained a few funny jokes so it ended up being entertaining, but it is a very shallow movie that brings nothing to the table once you've already heard the jokes.

[@unburdenedcatcreature]

Tbh I had been really disappointed by Guardians of the Galaxy :/ I heard it was really good and was so excited to see it and it just felt flat. Maybe it’s cuz Chris Pratt’s character is a completely flavorless protagonist 😭 I wanted to like it so bad

[@frescopino7866]

Yeah, people focus too much on Drax being the "haha can't understand metaphor" guy and a lot less on the "scarred warrior who watched his family die in front of his eyes and knows he'll never feel that kind of love ever again". When they say "Rocket Raccoon" they immediately go to "scrappy inventor with a potty mouth" instead of "mad scientist experiment who sees himself as an abomination and hates himself above all". They treat these characters as if the first thing Rocket did once out of prison WASN'T getting himself drunk and screaming "I DIDN'T ASK TO BE MADE!" in the middle of a crowded bar. Peter was stolen from his family to become a living battery, and even if he was saved from that fate he grew up among pirates who, even if they cared about him, still threatened to eat him. Gamora was also ripped from her family, except she also got to watch half her planet being gunned down and was then forced to live as the right hand woman of the person who did it. These characters are only comedic when they're together because their coping mechanisms clash so well. Every time they're alone with their thoughts or with someone else they unravel into the ball of unresolved trauma they are. Drax with Mantis, Peter with Ego, Rocket with Yondu, Gamora with Nebula, all scenes from the second movie without an OUNCE of comedy. The only character who really doesn't fit in this is Groot, who is smartly introduced as a sidekick before becoming someone everyone else can bond over raising.

[@Amon_Gus799]

$70 live service game is a death sentence for any game

[@kylespevak6781]

Triple negative

[@unempoleon]

It’s $40

[@tylerknutson1213]

Honestly free live service game is the death of a game that isn’t Fortnite

[@madnessarcade7447]

Unless it’s Mario kart

[@madnessarcade7447]

@@tylerknutson1213except for league and Pokémon unite and Fzero 99

[@tro_celli]

I’ve come to realize that the live service push is essentially game executives’ version of gambling. They’ve all seen the big payouts that come from the lucky few live service games that catch on and they can’t resist. It doesn’t matter how many others crap out in the process, how much is spent and sacrificed with each failure, the promise of that jackpot is too sweet for them to resist. I’m not sure how we can treat executives’ gambling addiction, but that’s what we’re dealing with.

[@afterdinnercreations936]

The difference is, they don't gamble with their own money, but with their employees. I raise you two indie-dev teams.

[@ryanmahon1]

I think you nailed it

[@MidwestArtMan]

I think it's a combination of hoping to hit it big and wanting a steady income. I'm guessing that AAA games shifted into live services initially so they could have a stable income that looks good to investors rather than, "We had to delay our next game by 3 months to fix some bugs, so our income will be near zero next quarter." Even if the game sells like mad when it comes out, investors don't want that risk.

[@rarbnif2332]

You’re spot on

[@consciouscode8150]

Replace them with AI which doesn't believe in the gambler's fallacy. It's not like they can do worse

[@The_PolterGhost]

I flipping love sci-fi space settings where the characters are humans, humans with face paint, humans in fat suits, humanoid robots, humans with funny hats, and a person who is just inexplicably Bobby Wheeler that everyone went to school with in the 90s. I can't believe generic fantasy settings with Dwarves, Elves, Orcs, and Goblins are more diverse than this.

[@puhteeah4876]

the [EVIL EMPIRE WHO OPPOSES INDIVIDUALITY] wants to take over the galaxy but the [MISFIT GROUP OF QUIRKY CHARACTERS] have to stop them

[@spinyslasher6586]

Don't forget that they all have to quip every ten seconds or else the low attention span audience will immediately log off.

[@twilightgeneral777]

At this point someone should just make a Hero Shooter with all of the bad alien costumes from early Doctor Who.

[@DeathDragon1730]

@@twilightgeneral777i would play that.

[@siphillis]

It's genuinely hilarious how many writers have no idea how to write a strong woman without making her the most boring person imaginable

[@LegitMLG360noscoper]

Step 1: Make her a man

[@peeledapples4176]

I always remember the guys from Always Sunny saying they changed how they wrote Dee after realising female characters are always cast as the boring, finger-wagging type that stops the male characters having fun. All the stoic Gamora rip offs very much fall into that trap.

[@livliveart]

I don't understand how this is still an issue, we're literally half the population 😭

[@nazor1]

It’s a very good point. The girl boss trope is so worn, and I get it that it’s a reaction to damsels in distress, but would be nice to have a woman who has weakness and a sense of humor.

[@Mach-2-Fishbed]

@@livliveart I used to think it was something like another checkbox that they had to check off. I believe it was the devs for the Saints Row reboot that were genuinely shocked that people didn't like their characters and after learning that, I understood that they just can't write unique characters. The best they can do is a self insert of how they imagine themselves in said game.

[@Mattriix]

Concord: "Here's our Marvel-esque Hero Shooter" Marvel: "...uh... here's also our hero shooter"

[@Mattriix]

Valve: "Did somebody say Hero Shooter?"

[@Veltrosstho]

Blizzard-Activision: "I made two."

[@Montesama314]

It's so awkward when two people where the same dress to the dance.

[@webbacon7106]

​@@MattriixMoba but sure

[@giggidygoblin]

​@@MattriixIt's a Moba.

[@franklinturtleton6525]

*loves hotsauce more than anything* *Immediately shoots hotsauce when it's tossed in the air* He has ONE personality trait and they couldn't even keep up with it.

[@Mr._Sherwood]

I'm so glad "slop" is being used more often, I mean there is no better word to describe focus-tested, paint by numbers, trend chasing, well, slop like this.

[@WheresMyInhaler]

Yes and it directly affects the person who is consuming that “slop” by forcing a sense of shame.Which it should

[@serioserkanalname499]

Its also just fun to say. Sllllopp. We needed a term for the kind of quality modern games develop. Huge budget, dei, focus groups, buzzwords, safe(tm) humor, microtransactionfilled, 70$ base edition, every person is at the very least a mildly ugly self insert for the devs etc.

[@ohno5559]

Dunkey called Kingdom Hearts III "one of the biggest blumberfucks I have ever witnessed", that's a pretty good word too

[@thereisbloodonmynutsack]

Goyslop

[@SaHaRaSquad]

Focus testing is one thing, but when their "focus" is the entire market and they don't look at the test results that's kind of a problem.

[@Nefere95]

Oh, the absolute irony of it all. All these AAA games with millions of dollars of budget and photorealistic graphics, and yet, one guy in his basement with a budget of two dollars and some lint can cook up a more entertaining and unique game. It's truly bizarre how video game technology has evolved so much, while Big Corporation can't figure out toddler shape puzzles. But the worst of it all, as you described, is that it's the people who actually CREATE the game are the ones who get laid off, when all they did was doing what they were told to do.

[@dani007a]

Truly, "AAA" is just a metric of a game's budget and not its quality anymore. Combine that with the abundance of tools that solo devs now have at their disposal, and it truly is the era of the Indie Dev.

[@smileyp4535]

Yeah it's capitalism, the problem is capitalism

[@user-S853]

I mean… if the devs stay in touch, then they could *potentially* go indie and “lay off” the execs through competition. They’d need to make their money *last* though. As well as figuring out who gets what when their thing is finally done.

[@saycap]

Right, because gaming companies used to be smaller and ran by people who love video games. The suits came in when the money started rolling in and ruined everything. Thats what investors do. They ruin your business. Why any indie studio making a modicum of a successful game would sell their studios to one of the big slop factories hoping they’ll keep getting to make fun games is beyond me.

[@milomichelisaustin1981]

​@@saycapTo a lot of those indie studios, the money they are offered is a lot of money, and they can just leave and start a new studio if and when it all falls through

[@matiaspereyra9392]

Ohhh i remember when they teased concord like... 2 years ago?, With literally 5 seconds of footage with 0 character design reveals, it was like an 80s vaporware ship traveling through hyperspace that was like empty and they sort of presented it like it was a big thing and everyone was like "why are you even showing me this"

[@hakasek4052]

I feel like the suits are misunderstanding how ARG works. Some noteworthy indie horror series can drop a few hints and clues and the community will go nuts trying to decipher them or come up with a narrative that fits. I feel like the company thinks that a few seconds of trailer will give the same effect and they can just look at community feedback and pick whatever the community comes up with as the best answer for what to make without understanding that they don't fucking have a community for a game that doesn't exist and a few seconds of generic footage with nothing in it is a far cry from hiding clues in a pre-established setting.

[@KasumiRINA]

@@bupkis72 I think it's corporate LARP, like if you tease a new Star Wars, Final Fantasy or Mass Effect, everyone would be interested because franchises are famous, but they are trying to roleplay announcing a new sequel to established franchise on a new one.

[@matiaspereyra9392]

@@hakasek4052 not even for a second it occurred to me that it could have been an ARG, THAT'S how bad it was

[@Dylamn]

The saddest part is, I probably would've loved this as a single player rpg. If it had a story with a beginning, middle, and end, the characters would've grown to be very lovable and memorable. The problem with it being live service is that there will never be room for the characters to grow because they need to stay in this quirky phase in their life forever.

[@curts7801]

If it was a borderlands clone this could have been good. We don’t need more overwatch clones.

[@kjj26k]

The original dream all gamers had for live services was an evolving and expanding story over a great length of time. Really, only MMOs have actually kept to and delivered on that, despite many of these "live ""service"" """games""" having plenty enough income and audience to do that too.

[@notchillstorm]

This game is just the epitome of generic slop.

[@Raum2901]

​@@kjj26k Play limbus company, the characters genunely have development over the course of the chapters they release over time with interesting world building on top of it

[@christiandauz3742]

I think Hoyoverse games are the exception You know, Chinese made games funded by their government!?!

[@evanmarcus5975]

I love that he was able to look up Concord and find five different definitions, all of which are not my hometown, the capital of New Hampshire.

[@FrahdChikun]

As someone who graduated from NHTI, I feel your pain

[@chuckbatmangaming]

Yeah the name has no IP value and isn't easy to look up. It's somehow even more meaningless as a title than Anthem or Forspoken

[@Bludobi9001]

When I hear Concord, I always think of...." welp gotta go save Preston Garvey"

[@DangerB0ne]

I think of grapes

[@TheBlueArmageddon]

You mean from Fallout 4??

[@sir6311]

Undercut vs Killmonger hair, which is worse?

[@chaosenforcerdhm969]

Undercut as well it feels like we can’t have strong female character™️ without making them look as much like a male as possible

[@Kaesewicht]

isn't that the same hairstyle, just for different ethnics?

[@COI-O3]

False dychotomy

[@LaloSalamancaGaming69]

Killmonger

[@GentleJellicent]

Yeah, Concord is definitely DOA. I've never seen a more soulless game in my life.

[@----248]

@@z28yeti Titanfall dead on arrivals? really? both games sold millions and the spin off apex legends is one of the most profitable shooter EA ever produced.

[@melly5345]

​​@@z28yetiTitanfall (2 at least) was never dead and still isn't, it isnt exploding in popularity but people do play it

[@Seoul_Soldier]

@@z28yeti You're an actual idiot if you consider Titanfall in the same camp as Suicide Squad and that stupid pirate game. Your opinion is worthless.

[@alemirdikson]

​@@z28yeti Really? You're using Titanfall as an example? Out of everything... Titanfall? Let me guess, you played it for a while, but sucked so bad that you now have to mock it to make yourself feel better? Either that or you just lack any connection to reality whatsoever...

[@graemevaughey7432]

That's _quite_ the statement. I've seen many many soulless games in the last five or so years. "I've never seen a more soulless game _this week."_ is about as far as I'd go. Plus, Xbox (the king of buying studios just to shut them down) has got a presentation in a couple of days. This might not even be the worst game this _month..._

[@thefactory7221]

Undercuts save money and time on hair physics, they're usually put on to a character that has a lot of expensive prerendered animations, but acutally implementing hair physics for one model is about a half hour of three separate developers' day. Exexutive mindsets will only look at the first third of that sentence.

[@RAFMnBgaming]

first three words tbh.

[@GKplus8]

Which sucks because I am a sucker for hair physics.

[@joshwillcox7141]

Just like that one Chibi Robo review or whatever it was where the guy said "if we don't support these more experimental games now, we'll find ourselves in a depressing world filled with nothing but sequels, rehashes and knockoffs". Dude said daid that about 20 years ago and look where we are...

[@KvltKommando]

You still have idiots coming out of the woodwork to say 'people can like what they like' and other useless statements that completely ignore the effects of lowering standards leading to worse and worse games and lower competition amongst developers.

[@joshwillcox7141]

@@KvltKommando exactly!

[@aperson9973]

​@@KvltKommando I don't really see why it would be a bad statement? It's not like it's untrue. But, I really don't see why anyone would actually, genuinely like these kinds of games.

[@KvltKommando]

@@aperson9973 Because the implication is that we are atomistic beings where our individual actions (purchasing, reviewing, approving/disapproving of a game in public comments and content) don't have real results on the gaming industry as a whole. Yes, people "can" physically complete the actions of purchasing awful games and they "can" have bad taste and like those awful games, but (the people making those statements) they're not attempting to imply that those action can be completed, they're implying that nobody else should care nor criticize them for it when the reality is that if we are operating in a market, it absolutely DOES matter when people "like what they like" and if we allow the quality standards to drop so low by burying our heads in the sand all we've done is passively allow the bar to drop. There will always be idiots who will accept lower and lower quality products so if everyone remained as passive idiots with the "people can like what they like" mentality products would only drop in quality continuously.

[@yan_dj]

"Slop" is like, the meanest thing you could possibly say about any project and it's not even a swear word If I made an indie game and people hated it, I'd rather the players call me slurs than call my game slop 😂

[@megamegaO]

Here's thing thing, this game ISN'T an indie game, it's a AAA game...literally a OW clone. There's so many of them, so expect the SAME type of business with it as well (character/gun skins/loot box/Season passes/ etc.) it's tiring.

[@thatjuanacapellaguy5300]

Can’t wait for people to call me a piece of excrement when my first indie release. Better than calling me or my game slop.

[@Yellowredstone]

@@megamegaOYes dude, we're aware it's a AAA game. OW is also a TF2 clone, and Valve is making yet another OW clone while ignoring the TF2 fans.

[@1000Tomatoes]

Idk there's probably something out there that could take slop as a compliment

[@ThisisCitrus]

Yet somehow "slop" is accurate.

[@chasemiller3712]

I can't wait for Nintendo to present their latest 5v5 team based shooter based on a popular IP. MiiShooter.

[@badlatency9979]

That's the thing, Nintendo already has a successful team arena shooter franchise...Splatoon.

[@MissUmbra]

That would actually be fun NGL I know Nintendo isn’t perfect at making every game top notch, but I can imagine that an Overwatch-style game starring Miis made by Nintendo would work well if they go in a route that mixes Splatoon with TF2, Overwatch and Fortnite to an extent Obviously they’ve mastered the Number V Number Team-Based Shooter idea themselves with Splatoon even though the objectives to win are drastically different, but adding in different classes each with their own strengths and weaknesses depending on who you’re fighting and what classes you both are using like TF2 and Overwatch mixed with the customizability of the Miis, especially how Miitopia for Switch handled it would result in a game that gives each player their own identity and if they go the Fortnite route with collabing with other franchises, whether it’s games or not would really go a long way as long as there’s little to no microtransactions that are severe as Fortnite or Overwatch’s so everyone can get a chance to get the skins, stickers and taunts/emotes they want without having to waste too much real world money Plus, imagine how many more Mii costumes they could make without having to stick to Smash’s video game characters only rule

[@JaeleNistra]

splatoon hero shooter when?

[@77wolfblade]

@@JaeleNistra You know when the gaming industry is going to hell when people countlessly mixing genres together in terms of terminology.

[@HenshinFanatic]

​@@JaeleNistra I mean, there are enough named characters by now. Question is, which characters are going to be relegated to Tank, who gets the vaunted Flank (to borrow Paladins' nomenclature) role, and who gets stuck as Support?

[@gochadc]

Came back because this video aged like fine wine.

[@CapitalTeeth]

After Starfield, I've learned how to identify corporate slop trailers for games. For example, if it has developers talking in that machine-like tone and with their two hands together, talking about _all of the features that are coming to this big game,_ then that's already a dead giveaway. Because they're reading off of a script made by the marketing people, not giving genuine commentary.

[@PowerHausMusic]

if a game is truly great, it’ll speak for itself. if the devs feel the need to hype up the marketing for the game by exemplifying every small feature, that should say something about the overall experience waiting to be released

[@LBrivet]

*Only* after Starfield? lol

[@bam_bino__]

all developers in trailers read off of scripts

[@meatmobile]

I don't trust a game trailer that has its devs in the trailer, period. Show the game.

[@meatmobile]

​@@bam_bino__So close to getting it .

[@OwnageMancer]

6:07 this scene made my jaw drop. It’s like they tried to make a likable character, but they only have an AI’s level understanding of what it means to like something. It’s like they asked an AI to design the character, the AI glitched out and did that weird Shining looping thing that AIs do, and they accepted it anyways. “That’s weird. All it gave was 10 pages of ‘Hotsauce. I like hotsauce. Hotsauce like. Like hotsauce. Hotsauce I like.’ Over and over again.” “Just do what it says. They already fired all the writers for AI. If you edit it in any way, they’ll give you a writer’s credit and fire you too.”

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq704]

its like u didnt even watch the video

[@SpaceShip-Orion]

“OMG it’s the guy from Concord, Better hide our hot sauce am I right?”

[@DillyzThe1]

the worst part, and this could just be me advocating for silly cartoony styles, but the worst part about all of this is how there isn't even a unique art style in any corporate slop, or even an art style to begin with. everyone just wants to be an overly-realistic marvel cinema pile of crap because they think "oh man, our graphics mean more players, right?!" me personally? i hate realistic styles in general, so this just dawns on me further. i can at least tolerate it in movies if the actors are real people.

[@dr.cheeze5382]

A unique, defined artstyle will beat graphic fidelity any day. Just look at games like Team Fortress 2, literaly over a decade old and it still looks amazing.

[@pillowmint4622]

and then they go and don't add any blood and write the characters to have no swearing and silly dialog, which would fit a cartoon style much better than a realistic one so *what is even the point-*

[@AnimatorZeeVIDEO]

I'm in roughly the same boat. While I don't mind realism, I tend to lean towards stylization because it doesn't tire out my eyes. (That, and I dislike how hyper-realism tends to be the go-to when there's so much more you can do with that much power.) You could have all the graphic fidelity and power in the world but that doesn't automatically mean your game will look *good*. There's so much more to a good-looking game than how many pixels you can shove into a texture.

[@BoxoSpoons]

I just think about that Marvel Rivals game, and how despite it mainly being another hero shooter, the fact that it's a Marvel game that's actually somewhat trying to look like a comic instead of a movie immediately helps it look more interesting.

[@conspiracypanda1200]

Realistic graphics just have the WORST particle effects when you wanna run a smooth, clear-to-read multiplaayer game. It's so much harder to figure out what's damaging me when everything is either glow/bloom effect-ing itself straight into my retinas OR appearing so subtly that it might as well be part of the map texture and I end up spinning around like an idiot while dying to fire damage because the floor has 5 specs of barely visible embers underneath my gloriously rendered boots.

[@jedisalsohere]

Any of you remember LawBreakers? It came out in 2017, made by Cliff Blezinski's studio. It was an FPS (obviously) that mimicked a lot of what Overwatch did, but with some genuinely cool new gamemodes and an interesting low-gravity mechanic. It shut down within a few months because it had quite literally 0 players. It was noteworthy back then - now I see it as the harbinger of death for the modern game industry. LawBreakers should have been a moment of realisation, a warning for AAA companies - instead, they completely doubled down, and now every game is LawBreakers.

[@dansilvers8052]

I actually enjoyed LawBreakers. The movement felt a bit stiff but that was certainly something that could have been smoothed out in time if the demand had been there. Nowadays, developers see Hero Shooters as easy cash-grabs because Team Fortress 2 is a bot-ridden mess and nobody on the face of the Earth is a fan of Overwatch's monetization system, so as far as they're concerned, the genre is ripe for the taking.

[@goldmemberpb]

Lawbreakers was also created before overwatch came out but the actual release timing kinda doomed it.

[@DayFul]

The warning was there even earlier when Battleborn was sent out to die after being mis marketed as an overwatch clone. It was actually a first person MOBA in PvP and had online 4 player co op missions with a cool cast of characters. That had more creativity than any of these soulless cash grabs.

[@darkmyro]

Not even overwatch is overwatch anymore honestly, blizzard as a company and overwatch killed any interest I had in the game. I'm also not interested in tf2, valorant or paladins. The only one I'm kinda interested in is marvel rivals and even with that game I'm having a wait and see approach cause marvel's avengers was trash and the controversy with early reviews and what genuine reviews I've seen have me a little spooked.

[@TheThirdDaySH]

​@@DayFulngl, Battleborne was a dually pretty dope.

[@joa1401]

This almost makes me feel defensive of GoTG. The second two movies, Vol 3 especially, still felt like a heartfelt, personal passion project on James Gunn’s part. He was saying stuff with them, about found family and trauma, that seemed to come from a genuinely raw place. I feel like we’d all be a lot fonder towards them if EVERY SINGLE OTHER SCI-FI/FANTASY BLOCKBUSTER FRANCHISE _THING_ WASN’T TRYING TO _BE THEM._ They had a fun, goofball, technicolour, slightly vulgar, Flash-Gordon-but-make-it-sarcastic tone. Great. Worked for them. Does NOT MEAN WE WANT THAT FOR BREAKFAST LUNCH AND DINNER. YOU DON’T GET TO CALL YOUR FRANCHISE ‘OFFBEAT’ IF THERE’S 50 OTHERS INSINCERELY FLOGGING THE SAME SCHTICK. 20 years ago nobody was complaining about quips. Maybe they rolled their eyes at them, but they were understood to be a playful genre thing that had their place. Now over-saturation has turned audiences off cheesy, winking Han Solo-esque dialogue and I feel like that’s a _crime._ It was supposed to be a _treat._ Reserved for particular characters and particular films, deployed at the right moments. If they’re exhausting people then something, somewhere, has gone _terribly terribly wrong._

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

They all sucked. The first one contained a few funny scenes that gives it a pass, but that's it. No substance at all. James Gunn is a hack.

[@joa1401]

@@gregoryl.levitre9759 Damn. I went back and looked James Gunn up on Wikipedia and to my dismay, you’re right. ‘James Gunn, American director, screenwriter and talentless hack’. It’s right there in the first line of his bio. I had no idea. That’s so disappointing, I thought he’d done some alright stuff. I guess when I watched that live action Scooby Doo movie he made in 2004 and hated that, it should have been my sign. But no, I went ahead and enjoyed some of his later work. Shows what I know. Ah well. Thanks for giving me the heads up I suppose. Bummer.

[@gregoryl.levitre9759]

@@joa1401 yep, it's a bummer not knowing who the hacks are, because then you waste a bunch of money and time on trash products. I feel for you.

[@joa1401]

@@gregoryl.levitre9759 I am, indeed a pitiful, tasteless creature and it is a wonder society continues to feed and clothe me

[@joa1401]

@@gregoryl.levitre9759 And i feel for you feeling for me. I am rather pathetic, it is true. Frittering away my meagre earnings on tickets to moving pictures not bearing the prestigious Gregory L. Levitre Stamp of Cinemagraphic Quality. Frankly, it is a wonder society continues to feed and clothe me…

[@Mir_Teiwaz]

The wild part to me is that they showcased TWO hero shooters in the same state of play video! And the Marvel one, which got like a couple minutes at most, actually looked BETTER than Concord, which got like 11 minutes. Who thought it was a good idea to have TWO of the exact same type of live service game in the same showcase??

[@W-LM27]

Not to mention the Marvel one has already gotten some praise gameplay-wise, AND that it's going to be FREE against Concord's 70 buck entry fee.

[@KoenRH2803]

I love that they call these events "State of Play" as if they want to say "hey you, this is the state of the AAA gaming industry" on purpose

[@SirJorb]

Truly incredible that this video was the first I heard about this game, and today the second thing I heard about this game is that it was shutting down.

[@slykele547]

At first I actually liked the character designs, but the moment they started talking I was like oh here we go again

[@gabdraws7003]

He kinda hit the nail on the head with the GotG comparison. Yeah they got some.bright colors and thats just about it. Aside from the big yellow tin can theyre all too generic for words. And even the tin can is a trope played out to death

[@exist4046]

@@gabdraws7003the robot is literally just Omega from the Sonic series and that upsets me because i fucking love Omega and robot characters in general i dont want this to only become an overdone trope im so sad abt this man

[@hecklejack7726]

@@exist4046 Hey! Don't compare Omega to that trash heap! Omega actually LOOKS like a robot.

[@exist4046]

@@hecklejack7726 entirely fair, Omega has a kickass design even if i cant draw him for my life lol.

[@theotherjared9824]

I love how "slop" has become the premier adjective when describing bad content because that word brings vivid images that perfectly encapsulate our feelings.

[@WheresMyInhaler]

It also invokes a sense of shame for the consumer of said slop too.

[@khornethebloodgod4155]

It’s a particularly bad insult because you’re not just calling it bad you’re saying they put in no effort whatsoever, so it hurts even more.

[@thunderkrux7745]

I’ve heard two sides of why people aren’t interested in this game, “I already play overwatch, why would I want to play a clone?” “I don’t even play overwatch, why would I want to play a clone?”

[@Nick_115]

Love that immediately after the whole undercut thing, the purple character at 9:41 has it front and center

[@Radar_of_the_Stars]

I think that people should stop buying slop, play an indie game every once in a while, an amazing 10/10 indie game comes out every single week

[@ScooterCat64]

Arlo should honestly talk about indie games more often considering how slow things are right now

[@peachymiku6432]

I agree, so many wonderful Indie games out there! Aside from the select few, I notice I seem to play only indies lately.

[@boyboilNEO9055]

The thing is people are stopping that's why these games fail Either executives don't know about the failures or they do but are desperate enough to do it anyways Either way they're dumb

[@chanderule605]

every week is a pretty gross exaggeration, theres like 10 indie games at most that Indie game fans even play and talk about

[@happyspaceinvader508]

It’s a great idea, but it’ll never catch on. Video games are mass market entertainment now… and 50% of the mass market are of below average intelligence.

[@alexkilgore]

Absolutely unbelievable how well this video has aged

[@caribarts01]

that Smiling Friends clip of Alan responding to his boss’ gift like: “I-I don’t really want this…”. I honestly completely tuned out cuz I immediately knew the kind of game we were gonna get within seconds of its reveal

[@Hadeks_Marow]

"Overwatch exists in the overwatch universe" "Ah, yes, hmm, it appears that this floor is made out of floor, hmm. Fascinating."

[@BlazeStorm]

The collective groan we all had when they revealed it to be a 5v5 hero shooter is probably the most memorable part if this all

[@KasumiRINA]

I have a kneejerk reaction when I click some poster on Steam or whatnot and see words MULTIPLAYER MASSIVE ARENA ONLINE LOOT in description, tho respect for developers for immediately putting the neon "ignore this forever" sign on description. I don't think I played a multiplayer shooter more than once since CS 1.6

[@Mike14264]

Y'know, I honestly really hoped this was gonna be some free space exploration game where you get to be a rascal team member of cargo transporters, do some odd-jobs, wrestle at some bars, all that good stuff... ...but no, it's just an arena combat multiplayer thing. I was honestly not gonna mind the characters with these admittedly really common tropes if the narrative around it was at least decent and allowed me to pilot a spaceship to visit multiple planets and cities. But... well, that's not what this was.

[@rohamcsigusz]

Yeah these characters allows for a lot of creativity in writing imo, even if they are overdone. It would've worked as a single player adventure. However, unfortunately management sees the potential of live service and make a failure instead. Just to put this into perspective, when blizz made microtransactions for wow they made **MORE money from 1 (one) mount** as they made with starcraft 2. Thats an unbeatable return of investment. So its no wonder why management wants live service to work so much. Its the mythical golden goose they all chase.

[@Mike14264]

@@rohamcsigusz they should just forbid microtransactions in full price paid games. They're already present in free games, which y'know what, fine, sure, ok, I guess, but in games I already paid for, it's just criminal to keep inserting other ways to drain people's wallets.

[@bensmith8682]

Well that would be expensive to make, properly expensive anyway. Cheaper to just record some hundred or so voice lines, make six or so maps, slap a main menu on it and call it a day.

[@aperson9973]

​@@Mike14264 Yes! It's BS. Something like Destiny for example, yeah, there's microtransactions, but at least the game is free.

[@Goobious_Maximus]

I don’t think the Concord character designers realize how much Overwatch was carried by… “fan art.” 👀

[@dandrecollier800]

So porn carried overwatch? I dunno if I should br impressed or depressed about that statement

[@jesfest]

@dandrecollier80 If you wanna hear something really depressing, Randy Pitchford tried to keep Battleborn alive by advertising - and possibly creating - a rule 34 subreddit. I can't see fanart as depressing in any context compared to *that*

[@dandrecollier800]

@@jesfest damn that's even more depressing. When you have to resort to porn to keep a game alive

[@Anuthal]

Never played Overwatch, but I was thankful for the porn.😄

[@jesfest]

@@dandrecollier800 _attempted_ to keep the game alive, it still failed! it's actually a shame too, I liked playing it.. but gearbox be gearbox and randy be randy, so what can you do but be wary, right?

[@niteus4907]

My favorite part is that every movement ability zooms you out to thrid person for half a second then zooms you back into first person. What's motion sickness?

[@DerOrk]

How else would you be incentivised to buy €20 skins for your character?

[@johndoe1274]

If you look harder you'll notice they quite literally ripped icarus dash and the thermite grenade from destiny 2 😂 wow I wonder what the bungie devs are adding to this game.... hmmm

[@Zorpinzorper]

​@@johndoe1274They even got Marksman's dodge in this😭

[@KasumiRINA]

I was so naive thinking Mirror's Edge set the new standart for first person movement... I mean, it DID but like, nothing followed. Now it's an "old game" and no new game learned how to do FPS moves. Meaning we didn't get a single game where BOTH shooting and moving feels satisfying outside of third person.

[@oxedward4738]

I was like “well maybe you’re getting ahead of yourself, Arlo.” And then I saw him describe the trailer 💀

[@FTChomp9980]

I just love Astro Bot carrying the showcase and the like ratio to the Slop Concord the Dislikes on it are telling Sony Executives:"Less Live Service Dog Crap give me more variety like Astro Bot!" And I would love to buy Astro Bot! I love 3D Platformers.

[@jameslawrenson1208]

It looks infinitly better!

[@gilitovenegas2339]

Anything related to Astro Bot is fair game. Although the new one should get a new name by the time September rolls around, can't wait to see what they're gonna do. And yes, 3D platformers tend to do so well nowadays where we have great content to indulge for a good balance value at say 35-40$ at most.

[@WulfilaBelmont]

To be fair, there were like two other games that looked pretty solid (God of War, and Silent Hill 2), but that's not saying much when the only game I own for PS5 is Demon's Souls, and I don't even have a PS5. I just play it whenever I visit my brother's house. Lmao

[@andyblanton6570]

That's exactly why Astro Bot is going to get cancelled.

[@gilitovenegas2339]

@@andyblanton6570 what for?

[@internetdragon7624]

I zoned out pretty shortly after I queued up this video, came back and saw the gameplay clips, and at 3:53, in this strange moment where I was entirely devoid of the context that a Bungie developer is on this game's team I deadass asked myself "Huh, what gun is that hunter using? Don't think I've seen it before." before rewinding and realizing this is something entirely different. Good sign.

[@aperson9973]

Honestly, Destiny's free to play, at the very least. I don't really like how you have to pay to play the campaigns minus each respective intro mission, but a fair amount of the content is free.

[@internetdragon7624]

@@aperson9973 What? Does that have to do with what I said?

[@santiagoherrera1853]

Quote SpongeBob episode: Astro bot: *Applause and cheers* Concord: *silence* Astro bot: *Applause and cheers again* Concord: *more silenece*

[@FTChomp9980]

That is from the Spongebob episode when Squidward throws a Talent show and he gets booed while Spongebob got cheered.

[@santiagoherrera1853]

@@FTChomp9980 correct, I don't remember the name of that episode, but that's exactly what I'm referring to

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

Fish in the Back: "Oh brother! This guy STINKS!!!"

[@blayedd_]

*throws tomatoes at concord*

[@thestopmotionchannel6980]

Quote Avengers: "I understood that reference"

[@xord6286]

actually another groundbreaking thing is that their black male character doesn't have the Killmonger cut (he's also the only character that looks cool)

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

you can’t tell me the mushroom girl doesn’t look cool 11:28

[@SamuelCatsy]

@@yourehereforthatarentyou She'd be even cooler if she wasn't just a copy of a Battleborn character.

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

@@SamuelCatsy not even close

[@Calvin_Coolage]

​@@yourehereforthatarentyouThe guy from Battleborn, Miko, actually looked better too. The mushroom has a really busy design imo.

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

@@Calvin_Coolage better is a matter of opinion but they’re much too different to say one is a copy of the other. it’s like saying they’re both copies of toad bc they’re all mushroom people

[@lamMeTV]

Thumbs up for not hurting me by actually playing Forsaken dialogue

[@raymiemiller1455]

9:26 I'm surprised Arlo's fuzzy hands sound that loud when the clap

[@imos_theos]

That just goes to show how powerful he is

[@meatmobile]

They probably have hard plastic inside or something

[@yourehereforthatarentyou]

i doubt he wears the puppet when doing audio recordings in post inb4 5heads who think they’re funny and original say “what puppet?” for the millionth time

[@TheJcris87]

Gyatt ​@@enorma29

[@raymiemiller1455]

@@yourehereforthatarentyou It was a joke, I know it wasn't the puppet.

[@jerrysgardentractorsengine2243]

Me: *reads description & sees “live service”* “Well, thats everything I need to know”

[@nothing4mepls973]

Live service = I can't play it at my pace.

[@JoylessBurrito]

Live service is a threat, not a promise

[@augustday9483]

Arlo pronounced "Hu-mons" like a Ferengi, and that's so perfect for describing the thought process of corporate suits.

[@Soul93Taker]

Nah, Ferengi would make good games. They'd kill you with microtransactions tho

[@draochvar9646]

​​@@Soul93Taker I mean Tongo does seem fun but expensive whenever it's on screen so ... Yea, that checks out

[@potatoCris]

"Chat gpt, make me a overwatch type game with gardian of the galaxy character" 99% sure that this is how it got conceptualized

[@justaguybehindacomputer9804]

The big guy looks like drax, Winston from overwatch, and Star Wars aliens stuck into a blender, it’s definitely a chatgpt generation

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq704]

chat gbt create me a redditor with no semblance of self

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq704]

i eat my own shit

[@aperson9973]

Going to be honest, I wish it was. At least then they would have an excuse. But development started before GPT was released to the public.

[@sempersolus5511]

Nice job, AAA game industry, you turned a fun-loving Muppet into Yahtzee Croshaw. I hope you're happy.

[@sozaj]

That's saying something! O_O At least he didn't turn into Jim Sterling - that would be the worst thing ever!

[@CaptainTitforce]

After TB died, and the state games have gone to, we need more Yahtzee Croshaws than ever before.

[@MartinB_Art_Design]

​​@@sozajThere are worse things than Jim Sterling. Like doctor who rage bait review channels.

[@sozaj]

@@MartinB_Art_Design do you mean Doctor Doom-something-or-another(that suggests phallic subject matter)?

[@MartinB_Art_Design]

@@sozaj Not heard of that one yet but wow lol The one I know of the most is this guy who draws himself as a cartoon and basically just whines about problems in the show that no good thinking person really cares about. He'll also just make completely negative comments about Ncutis performance despite it being a good performance. You can basically say anything bad about anyone's acting capabilities if you tried even a little. Like how Keira Nightly has one face for everything or that Will Smith can only play Will Smith in any movie role.

[@joshstucki4349]

Now that Concord is live it's funny to come back and see how right Arlo was.

[@supersonic5644]

Honestly Arlo, I really love when you make videos like this. In all my years of watching you, you’ve always been extremely passionate about gaming. And because of that passion, you HATE to see it deteriorate in quality. You did it back when Paper Mario became slop, and you’re still doing it now. Keep it up. We need more people calling out the current state of the industry

[@StarlightNkyra]

As somone who's father likes technology and is in their 60s, I think his viewpoint says it all for me about what these executives must have going through their heads. He ALWAYS, without fail, pretty much just judges the graphics. He never plays any games that aren't going for a "realistic" or "war" visual style (kind of like a teenager who never got out of the phase of wanting to consume only "adult" things,) When he does play something that isn't like that, he basically mashes buttons and refuses to engage with the gameplay. Although he does play "realistic" games he buys, (Pretty much either racing games or shooters), I have a hunch that he doesn't play them very often. It reminds me of how these corporate entities basically ramp up the graphics to 110%, use the same "realistic" style that rarely looks interesting or unique, and that rarely deviates. They also barely care about the actual gameplay of their games just ripping off what their corporate partners have made that did okay at one point in time, as a result being extremely out-of-touch with their consumers.

[@joshwillcox7141]

You're basically describing my dad who is only 50 but still he ONLY plays "realistic" games such as GTA or driving sims. I've tried to explain why the design of Mario Kart is so clever and actually has a really high skill ceiling but because going round a corner without touching the brake button makes absolutely no sense to him whatever because it's not "real enough" he just writes off any and all kart racers as bad. Then he'll use GTA 5's high sales numbers to convince me it's actually really good like Mario Kart 8 isn't the highest selling racing game ever made. I don't care if a game is stylized or more realistic or aimed at kids or adults. If game fun, I play game.

[@Frosted_Moontips]

@@joshwillcox7141 Just let your dad enjoy his games ffs XDD Talking to a boomer-ass parent is like talking to a brick wall, you're almost NEVER gonna get thru lmao

[@puhteeah4876]

some of the most beautiful sights I've seen in games have been games that purposely have low graphical fidelity like NaissanceE, ULTRAKILL, and The Music Machine

[@joshwillcox7141]

@@puhteeah4876 don't forget Solar Ash

[@baronvonbeandip]

I do not understand why they're leading with a cinematic trailer. That's something you do when you have an established canon that people are invested in. You would normally start off with a gameplay trailer to get people saying 'that looks fun' before they take a deeper dive into the worldbuilding.

[@DetectiveAme]

Concord's devs called the criticism "white noise" The deserve the failure.

[@megamegaO]

The same white noise that will not buy this game, thus making this game DOA

[@crabcak3s758]

to be fair, when the game was announced in the state of play there was some serious L spam going on so i can't blame them for just seeing that and not realizing that there are actual serious issues with the game but its still a little crazy that the game got made at all lmao

[@peachymiku6432]

.... They said that? Ugh, why I am not surprised? 🙄

[@JoeyG-o8r]

from a dev perspective, it's visually impressive and the gameplay looks smooth. The problem is it's not what the people want.

[@deedoubs]

What they were actually hearing was brown noise following by them pooping the bed.

[@supersnackbros2423]

TBF I think by saying it's set in the Concord galaxy, they're really just trying to explain the title, not trick audiences into thinking it's an existing IP.

[@havenfractal]

Unless the name of the galaxy matters for gameplay, that's like naming your company The Service Department. It's intentionally misleading.

[@diabeticman2194]

I can see why people would mistake that, but when I heard it I thought it was just referencing the lore of the game (doesn’t make up for how mid the game looks)

[@mykeyboardismelting6856]

i think they just chose it to make the game sound cool, unless the game is actually about achieving harmony or whatever among the characters (doubt it though)

[@lordtheodore13]

I love your pfp

[@supersnackbros2423]

@@lordtheodore13 Oh thanks, it's by MangoPopArt

[@mrbananahead2005]

This video aged like fine wine

[@amano_s]

Let's give Sony a round of applause for making the word Concord an international derision.

[@Poxell91]

Seriously. It's going to become a slur in the industry.

[@goldjaw]

New Hampshire fans crying rn

[@alexgrunde6682]

It’s this generation’s Superman 64

[@happyspaceinvader508]

Gen X and older know that word was already one of international derision by the end of the last century. You’re not fooling anyone by dropping the final ‘e’, Sony 🙄

[@js100serch]

I fully support Arlo on this new format. Not everything has to be sunshine and rainbows, we can be realistic and recognize when things are bad, we can be both, one doesn't negate the other, the gaming industry is healthy enough so we can have reasons to celebrate and reasons to point out the bullshit. It is all about balance!.

[@The_Admiral_Angel]

We need more people like you in the world. Granted, I'm some of a mix between an optimist and pessimist myself.

[@NinjaKnuckleJoe]

"Time will tell" yup. Time has told.

[@ObserveTheCelestial]

After watching this, I came to the realization that you can take this critique and just...replace the names with almost any marvel or even recent superhero movie. It's such a universal problem ohmigosh

[@Anna-dd4rh]

It’s definitely a universal problem! Universal, Disney, Warner Brothers…

[@DawnOfTheOzz]

This was clearly a game designed by a committee, not developers. They looked at their charts and chose what they thought players would like.

[@pinpointthe]

At this point I wish that the animators, modelers and voice actors on a project like this would just start a patreon so ppl can support them directly. It’s the only place I found joy in this reveal

[@aperson9973]

Really, they already got paid for it. Their talents don't deserve to be wasted on slop like this, and I really hope that they get to do something they actually want one day, but they're probably not in desperate need of money.

[@Xenado22]

Federation Force looks great compared to this

[@johndodo2062]

Very true. Astrobot is better than Mario now though chief so at least that game exists

[@snowhawkthorne630]

Federation Force was not that bad of an idea. A better art style and fewer painfully slow coop levels would have helped it a lot

[@quaglegagle674]

Federation Force is not a bad game in the slightest. It was just released at a time when Metroid had been dead for almost 6 years.

[@Syobnaf]

Correction: Federation force IS better than this

[@themangastand8475]

That's some copium. This game while not my taste, actually looks like a good hero shooter. Metroid is my taste, and I hated it.

[@LucyTheLamia]

I cant believe they made a small town in north carolina into a game thats so epic of Sony the video game company

[@ReikuYin]

Or Ontario Canada.

[@metro9640]

Or the California bay area one

[@LucyTheLamia]

@@metro9640 unrelated but I love your pfp

[@TrinityCore60]

Or the capitol of New Hampshire. Which I live near, turns out.

[@mdh0422]

North Carolinian here, can confirm this is accurate.

[@EchidnaKida]

This video aged very well.

[@ZappBranniglenn]

If you want to play a big budget game starring the Guardians of the Galaxy, it literally exists. Most people didn't notice but it was fantastic. But I do feel for the developers of Concord. Sony built an entire studio for THIS game six years ago. They're doing the Overwatch model of introducing its characters first in hopes that you love them. And their big reveal is side by side the Marvel version of their genre of game. And since Marvel is one of the most popular brands on the planet, they didn't have to lay any groundwork to get you to buy into characters like Spider-Man. I feel for the developers. They deserved a project with more defined vision.

[@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506]

Guardians was awesome and a criminally underrated game imo.

[@dreamerbee]

I feel like the problem with this is they're revealing their characters first hoping people will love them but the characters are all bland tropes cosplaying as characters... I can see some artistic merit in this game - like, I genuinely think the character designs for this look interesting and do some things right, but that trailer's writing was so weak it doesn't matter how nice they look. Also the 5v5 pvp thing already proved it's not a conducive model for lore-based games (OW keeps shooting itself in the foot bc people love the characters but they just don't give the players lore). Why should I love characters that sound like generic cardboard cutouts and are trapped in a game that's not likely to get a cohesive plot that allows them to shine? If they went all in with the lore and made this a BG3 style single player RPG I'd be genuinely interested in this. But instead we once again get the lowest base line for writing and they expect us to like this stuff, it's puzzling

[@MortonMcCastle]

5:32 Ok so this RPG Party consists of One tough as nails, no nonsense girlboss One carefree perpetual teenager dude One big strong stoic guy who threatens people One large emotionally detached, lighthearted robot with no facial expressions. Ok, for the sake of parody, what is the direct opposite of this?

[@KlassiK407]

A no nonsense masculine action hero, his companion/sidekick who was with him in a war or traumatic battle and remembers who he was before the trauma, an empathetic and motherly character who makes people good about themselves when they're down, and someone too young or naive to understand the full scope of the challenge they're facing

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq704]

guardians of the galaxy sold how many seats seems people like the archetypes i for one dont mind the archetypes but didnt care much for the movies

[@meisteryogurt1460]

A lighthearted, carefree guy who's just in for the fun and never has any clue what the plan actually is, a wimpy nervous girl who cannot stop thinking about all the dangers ahead, a weak, skinny boy with big teary eyes who has compassion for everyone and wants to help everyone they come across and a sadistic robotic killer machine with terminator like grin that, because of a malfunction in the programming, literally only wants to see blood. .. I, frankly, have no idea how that would work out.

[@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq704]

@@meisteryogurt1460 i eat and chew my own shit lawl

[@the_last_ballad]

​​@@qqqqqqqqqqqqqqqq704 and that is pertinent to the conversation... how? The tropes werent labled as bad, the OP was just wondering what the exact opposite would be.

[@MattisticStatistic]

"We're witnessing history here" Wasn't wrong...

[@linkkicksu]

when you were showing the first clips with the spaceships I thought 'Oh this doesn't look so bad, is it another space exploration game?' and then it turns out to be yet another Overwatch Clone which itself was a CSGO/TF2 clone you already know this will be absolutely dead on arrival

[@theheadguy1212]

The AAA bubble is at critical point. Indie games will soon takeover and I’m here for it.

[@thebaseandtriflingcreature174]

im not so confident... people with money keep that money

[@joshwillcox7141]

Oh, they are taking over, it's just gradual. The amount of times I've told someone to play Solar Ash... The problem with indie is market and so relies mainly on word of mouth.

[@ExValeFor]

No they won't wtf are you on about

[@littlehorn0063]

ooh, the amount of times I've discouraged to buy anything from Heart Machine goes up by one now. I ain't supporting their shittу аss writer, for Holowka did nothing wrong. zoe can go the fuсk away

[@aki-senkinn]

@@ExValeFor Baldur's Gate 3, Genshin Impact, Hades, Subnautica... i think a lot of people don't realize some of the biggest games are indie, and some indie teams are becoming giants themselves with millions of dollars of budget.

[@lashoxcin9348]

5:34 Hi-fi rush is just all these tropes but actually good (it even has the undercut lol)

[@optimumplatinum2640]

Things when done right are either praised or have their faults pass by because they do it well Concord is not that

[@tynamozapokemando2089]

Its 2024 and some of these companies cannot comprehend how to make a good game reveal trailer how are we supposed to get hype for a 10 minute CGI trailer and then talk about the gameplay afterwards? Most of us just want a 1 to 2 minute full gameplay trailer that presents the game in an attractive/creative way and people will buy or at least if you want to make a CGI trailer for the game make it 10 or 15 seconds MAX and then show us the gameplay. You also don’t need to give us a 20 min presentation explaining lore/behind the scenes of development on why we should play your game the gameplay should speak for itself.

[@TheThunderbirdRising]

You are describing exactly what Overwatch did, and it was a massive success on release

[@frankpennachio2901]

It feels like AAA video game devs are the network CEO bots from Futurama. One rolled some dice and said "sitcoms are in!", and you simply replace sitcoms with "5 v 5 hero shooters" and there ya have it. It's so baffling how they can see so many copies in this genre fail, and still make one. The arrogance of that thought process is crazy. The genre is so oversaturated but WE can do it better! It's crazy talk. And as a result a lot of people are going to lose their jobs, which sucks. So what's the over/under on the servers for this game shutting down after launch? 6 months? Less than that? You can see its failure already.

[@Rainbro359]

They don't see the failures. They only see the rare successes that blow up and make infinity money. Why spend your time making unique games for decent money when you can just roll the dice repeatedly and hope for the jackpot? And hey, if it doesn't work, fire the devs and try again.

[@manoflead643]

HAH! 2 weeks! That's gotta be a record or something.

[@frankpennachio2901]

@@manoflead643 As cynical as I could possibly be, I could not see this shutting down so quickly. NOBODY could I don't think. That's 100% a record that will never be beat lol. What a colossal failure.

[@Rainbro359]

@@manoflead643 The Culling II only lasted a week, I think thats the record. Check out Stop Killing Games if you think its pretty bad how companies can just arbitrarily destroy a game you bought and keep the money you paid ;) (Concord is getting refunds at least, but thats far from the norm)

[@swordmasterarie7752]

Had to come back to this video after today's announcement lol

[@blayedd_]

‪You should do a collab with TopicArlo. I think you two would agree on a lot of stuff‬

[@domestica_rosaceae]

We need this! Notice how ya’ never see Arlo and TopicArlo in the same room?

[@MacUser2-il2cx]

I guess you could call Concord "SOUR GRAPES"

[@HealyHQ]

OHHHHHHHH

[@joshstucki4349]

And Concord is dead. And Astrobot is a best seller. Justice is served.

[@TheLeadElite]

Some people may say the negativity is tiring, but these discussion need to be had. Seriously, who is this game even made for? Certainly not people who regularly play video games.

[@theSato]

uhh, it's made for people who like team based hero shooters. I've seen so many people who don't prefer the genre being like "who is this for?!?!?!" as if everyone shares their likes and dislikes lmao

[@digitalunity]

But people who like hero shooters have GOOD ones to play, ​@@theSato! It doesn't make sense to make a game like this

[@Cilibi]

@@theSatofriend, the problem is that people who like that genre are getting NOTHING from this game. It’s not for them because they already have this game 10 times over at this point with very little deviation.

[@Subject_Keter]

I love dissecting logix and reason to see the core of things. Only thing that is tiring is people are as sharp and witty as kid safety scizzors in a jar of goo.

[@grantlawrence4600]

@@digitalunity Do they? Overwatch killed itself. Valorant is decent, but it's been around for ages. And is more of a shooter than a "hero" based shooter. It has a fanbase. But it's pretty long in the tooth. Not much new. The maps are dull. I think you underestimate how popular this genre of competitive game is. The new Marvel game is the closest thing. I think that being revealed at a similar time is unfortunate for both games. But Concord looks way more interesting than it. From my perspective.

[@billyrubin7713]

Don’t these two different Arlos have a raycon sponsored sci-fi series?

[@glitchm.c.9931]

If concord’s main characters were replaced with 2 Arlos I’d play it

[@IAmHermaeusMora]

I think, perhaps, by "set in the Concord galaxy" they mean it is literally set within a galaxy named Concord, as opposed to the Milky Way or Andromeda galaxies. Other than that, yes, very much so a discount Guardians of the Galaxy but in Overwatch vibes.

[@ivanbluecool]

Triple A but we rank by cup size not grade

[@tinkerframe592]

I would be mad at this but like it’s a really clever pun lmao. Real

[@browniez_]

😭😭

[@Xile179]

Bruh 😂

[@doommaker4000]

Flat is justice but this still ain't it

[@theandy2000]

@@tinkerframe592why would you be mad… don’t like titties?