Is This the ULTIMATE Home Cloud Solution? OMV + CasaOS

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Timestamps:
0:00 Open Media Vault vs CasaOS
0:42 Setting Up A Website Is Simple With Squarespace
1:31 Why This MIGHT Work
1:58 My Plan
2:50 Getting Started
3:37 OpenMediaVault Setup
5:39 Prep for CasaOS
8:47 Installing CasaOS
11:32 CasaOS Installed
13:15 Running Some Apps
17:45 Messing Around With "CasaVault"

[@nidalspam509]

thank you for not cutting out your goof ups and google searches. It's refreshing

[@HardwareHaven]

Well there’s plenty of them haha

[@KameraShy]

The pain we have all shared.

[@Sourcecodemastergoaheadcheater]

Teen titans goo!! Robinhood:We got a call of a Pain Robot. Titians go!! All I know is Pain 😂😂😂❤❤

[@PaulMetalhero]

TrueNAS: gimme all your RAM! OMV: you only have 1 Gb? it's ok!

[@alanstedman6716]

I have loved OMV for years, and recently have been trying CasaOS and been impressed how it has matured. I had never thought of mixing them together. One word of caution if you want to try this on a SBC - OMV comes prepacked with OMV-extras, which breaks the CasaOS install script. It seems to work well on x64 as long as you dont install omv-extras.

[@JaikrishnaAdithya]

Congratulations for 100,000 subscribers colton!!!!! I knew from the very beginning that you will hit this milestone!!!! Congratulations once again!!!🎉🎉🎉

[@HardwareHaven]

Thanks Ramesh! Means a ton ❤️

[@jumpmaster5279]

Going 100k soon all the best, looking forward to more fun videos and a new diy nas

[@vuman007]

65,535 The highest TCP port number is 65,535. The TCP protocol provides 16 bits for the port number, and this is interpreted as an unsigned integer; all values are valid, apart from 0, and so the largest port number is (2^16 - 1) or 65,535.

[@second2falcon153]

I used OMV for a while, and I bricked it like 6 times. So everyone who want to try it, be careful with the APT repositories. And as Hardware Haven pointed out, there is a good chance that any update can brick the entire setup.

[@jdkingsley6543]

Im having the same issuw with truenas right now. Its driving me crazy.

[@second2falcon153]

@@jdkingsley6543 core or scale? Edit: nvm I’m fucking stupid. Core is BSD so has no APT

[@apveening]

I am using OMV and have been for a couple of years, bricking it takes real talent (I managed it once).

[@second2falcon153]

@@apveening I assume you weren't trying to change part of the kernel and core repos then.

[@apveening]

@@second2falcon153 That was how I bricked it, part of the problem being that Raspbian/RaspberryPi OS isn't set up to update.

[@Catge]

Congrats on 100k subs!

[@charlestodoroff6498]

This proof of concept piece was definitely fun to watch. Have an upvote and a new sub.

[@HardwareHaven]

Thanks Charles! Means a ton!

[@PatrickDanforth]

Thanks for doing this! I had a couple hiccups but now have OMV 7 and Casaos running on my Pi 4.

[@michaelkane6797]

Interesting, but more than anything this makes me want to explore CasaOS further. I used OMV for years, and while it was reliable so long as it was left alone, it seemed like every major update broke something that took hours to figure out. One of your older recycled hardware videos sent me down the TrueNAS rabbit hole and that, while powerful, isn't at all intuitive. As my main NAS it has completely replaced OMV... but once or twice I've borked the whole installation trying to set up something in a container. Time to leave that as simply a storage device so I stop breaking it and try a different hypervisor. I was considering ProxMox, but maybe CasaOS would be enough to meet my needs without excessive complexity. It is after all just a home server... Thank you once again for narrating and sharing your experience.

[@cerveraoliver]

CasaOS is so simple that doesn't even manage RAID. Cute but not much else in my opinion. I built a custom dashboard using Homer, but there are a gazzilion of self hosted dashboards out there!

[@Reflexiony]

Then unRAID would be a good option, you have at least 30 days to test. Other options; DietPi or EasyNAS

[@brianbrown4858]

Love the honesty here.

[@Rockwolf50]

Nice setup. Two things first. You can use docker-compose files right from within Casa. Also make sure to mount your volumes directly. OMV uses /seven/whole bunch of garbage after that as share locations when you set them up from within OMV.

[@HardwareHaven]

Yeah, I like that you can paste in compose or cli. Also, not sure what you were saying on the /seven/whole thing... could you clarify?

[@Rockwolf50]

@@HardwareHaven Typo on my part. It was supposed to read /srv not “seven”.

[@HardwareHaven]

@@Rockwolf50 Oh yeah I should've guessed that. My bad. Yeah the /srv/UID thing is a bit annoying

[@SrPivete13]

​@@HardwareHaven i use Portainer for management Docker

[@LeoLijo]

Congrats on 100k!!!

[@HardwareHaven]

Thanks Lijo! ❤️

[@VitePapa]

I love casaos, have an old laptop who's monitor simply died so it became the home server. Now I run ubuntu 22.04lts with pro real-tim-kernel setup (did it cause it sounds cool unsure what ir really does). Then turned that into an lxd server. Lxd alpine container for docker learning. Pihole in it's own ubuntu image. Then lxd ubuntu for casaos which also has docker. Now I'm curious to find an OMV image to try this out.

[@JMassengill]

Ok I was unsure about this video. I’m very surprised how that turned out. Great video with excellent production values

[@HardwareHaven]

Thanks Johnny! Yeah, I wasn't sure either haha

[@astromatt75]

I have been using OMV for a couple of years now and use it to manage my samba shares, backups, docker containers, etc. It's been 100% bullet proof on my setup. I like what I see with CasaOS and think it has potential, but I can't really see the use case for having both.

[@analogue_cat]

The only use case I can think of is installing containers in 1 click & the UI. I have an issue on my RPI4 with Plex and access to the media library so I installed CasaOS + Plex, configured Plex from CasaOS and then deleting CasaOS, keeping the plex container in portainer. Don't know why, but it's the only easy way to make it work, at least in my case. Haven't tried plex on OMV tho

[@david_n_nettey]

Thanks for the interesting video! Apparently another way to have NAS capabilities while using CasaOS is to install Cockpit alongside it.

[@charlesjmouse]

FWIW: I've been running OMV for a while and quite satisfied with it, although the interface is a little 'occasional user' unfriendly. (Linux!) Having seen this video I thought I'd do the same and liked the combination. No issues with stability and I've since updated both installs without issue... ...I found myself increasingly using the CasaOS side to the point where I haven't touched OMV at all in a while. So I transferred some of my OMV settings like network shares that CasaOS doesn't currently do so well and uninstalled OMV entirely. All well and good. I don't think CasaOS is yet a replacement for OMV as it's options are neither as extensive nor as mature as OMV. But once you have things sorted as you'd like that it's possible to take those OMV niceties and apply them to CasaOS to use alone as a daily driver is encouraging. To anyone following along I wouldn't remove OMV as I did, as while I'm happy you will have to spend time manually replacing bits you lost along the way and reintroducing settings CasaOS's GUI just doesn't handle... ...or maybe for those who are old enough to be utterly sick of command-line fiddling (Why, Linux adherents, why?) another option might be to install a Docker image like webtop to have a 'full' Linux GUI in a browser to manage the details more neatly... although with all things Linux you never can get away from the command line entirely. *sigh*

[@antonbotha2857]

Thanks for this video, was struggling to get my raid mounted in CasaOS. I am now using Proxmox with CasaOS in a LXC container and doing a mount point in the proxmox container conf file to it.

[@HardwareHaven]

Oh sweet, let me know how that goes

[@ronm6585]

Thanks for sharing.

[@jordig3412]

great experiment ;-)

[@saisriramtekumalla6109]

Zomablade vs zimabaord which one you would recommend for home server for streaming and data backup and sunc

[@KrzysztofJaniczek]

I highly recommend TrueNAS. The UI is ok. It's easy to navigate after a while. I've been using it for over 8 years and haven't had any major problems with it. I highly recommend. High capacity and high reliability.

[@thedestroyer3879]

That's true but the good thing about omv is it can be put on lower end machines.

[@KrzysztofJaniczek]

Yes it's true. Especially when it comes to the amount of RAM

[@saisriramtekumalla6109]

Can you help me with 4k footage rendering, is it working with Jellyfin and i want to setup an 2tb external ssd to always sync with this storage is it possible and recommend

[@udeth36]

great explanation can you also make a full tutorial about backup and restore casa os + nextcloud?? Thank youu

[@AJKammerer]

Genuinely curious because I want to get something similar setup.. but could you use something like Proxmox to run a NAS VM (w/ OMV or TrueNAS, etc) and run a separate casaos VM, but have them share the NAS storage?

[@andres09jt]

I was planning on using CasaOS on top of Ubuntu server, for file and media server. Would it be suitable for a long term deployment? I don't need anything fancy, just somewhere to put all my stuff and be able to stream from.

[@TheOnlyEpsilonAlpha]

Pretty Neat 👍

[@cerveraoliver]

Been using OMV since 4 years at least, and if you don't like the current UI, the previous was even worse! 🤣 No judging, I was fine with it. It's a great distro and I've mastered it, but it's not for everyone. OMV takes control over many things in the OS. If you change stuff outside the webgui, it must be done by following the rules that OMV plays, otherwise it'll break. To update OMV you might prefer "omv-upgrade", a quick command that will do the apt jobs. Such command will never prompt for choices like it happened to you.

[@HardwareHaven]

Oh that last part is good advice, thanks!

[@mintypockets8261]

New to Linux, so had a 4TB NAS which I could only mount in the media folder in CasaOS (no idea how). This guide has my Thunderbolt NAS mounted to a tiny NUC via OMV, so THANKS. I cannot get Pihole to work though; any idea?

[@JaikrishnaAdithya]

You are so close to 100k!!!

[@HardwareHaven]

Yeah it’s nuts.. haha

[@JaikrishnaAdithya]

The idea and effort you make for a video is what makes your channel different from others!! (Yeah I agree there are many youtubers out there too) Great progress!!

[@HardwareHaven]

Thanks Ramesh

[@GJoseeph]

Any advice if for example i want to try to shutdown with remote Command Line? Why install this 2 UIs straight, one over another and not do it over Proxmox? How well is the HBA SAS Support on OMV? Have you feel any impression about data corruption because of this Hybrid System?

[@didierdel2319]

Bonjour, j'utilise TrueNAS, pour la sauvegardes de mes fichiers en local. Je dirai que j'ai aucun souci.

[@LandonHalley]

Yay new Hardware Haven video

[@drieghan_]

Estuve todo el día aprendiendo a instalar plex con docker en omv y se me dio por mirar este video, no puedo creer lo que veo.

[@connorp8408]

Is there any reason I would want to do this versus installing Proxmox then CasaOS on that? Sorry, still learning

[@VizionHUN]

I used OMV too, not as solid as it should be. Basic functions are solid, but it is ehhh... hurt in many ways (upgrades, UI crash, etc...). I use pure CasaOS now, samba shares are not very great and flexible, like it was on OMV. But I managed the shares via the conf file (CasaOS Samba settings in UI is... let say a work in progress), so it is OK. For multi user and remote access I use Tailscale + Filebrowser. It works, nice and fast. Even kernel upgrade was not a big deal, it just needed a restart, to use the new kernel (as all other linux do). Dockers running fine, but I dont use much, just 6-8 containers now. THX for CasaVault, but I stay with CasaOS :)

[@GhostieXV]

Debian 11 + CasaOS+ZFS works a treat! installing it on top of OMV the webguis will fight each other just a FYI lol

[@thespencerowen]

I’ve been going in circles between proxmox,opencasa,OMV,truenas. I’ve thought casaos+zfs might be the simplest approach. Glad that is working for you.

[@fpspiter]

Did anyone figure out how to foce the casa os to correctly display the storage?

[@PicSta]

You should take a closer look at ports. Well-known ports go from 1 to 1023 and 1024 to 49151 are the user/registered ports. So, 10080 belong to the “high ports” how I call them. And I would stick to the 4 numbered long ports for applications. It looked like the changed didn't take effect in first place.

[@Edsel76]

this is great was thinking if the two would work I've been using OMV for some time now but I'm not good with docker or portainer but with casaos its a simple click to install. I had tried truenas but man that thing is not user friendly at, all OMV is simple and works.

[@EdwardEnglish91]

is there like a good guide to upgrade OMV? I got lost at OMV 4 ...

[@KameraShy]

Very intriguing. Didn't expect it to work. First time OMV installed on a Pi 4B with 512GB SSD (cheap from MicroCenter) a few months ago. So far just been using/testing as a third level backup. It seemed to lock up a couple times but didn't lose any data and last couple weeks seems stable. I don't think I would try CasaOS on this though. Would like to see if it continues to be stable. Maybe on another platform. Might be too adventurous for a Pi. My other NAS's are the most primitive Synology box which doubles as VPN server and XigmaNAS which runs three Dell rack servers, 8 bays each. Somehow I just prefer the XigmaNAS interface, it feels more heavy duty and has been solid.

[@HardwareHaven]

Nice!

[@Tarrith]

That's pretty sweet.

[@oeldisplay24n]

how do you get the OMV icons? like what url are you using? Just did this BTW and this is awesome! only had to do a "systemctl start docker" after installing curl while installing CasaOS. EDIT: never mind about the url icon, found in the video later you show how to.

[@haydenc2742]

Nice...how is this holding up? Still going strong? Give us a followup/review please

[@wahsetia]

thank you, good

[@GabrieleTroscia]

Zimaboard seems very powerful, but still expensive compared to a used SFF pc with similar specs.

[@AndreWilliams876]

What if i wanted to access these files outside of my home network? Can someone shed some light on this please. Im new to this

[@ahok2429]

well done

[@LIYNSKIN]

Hi anybody knows how to fix jellyfin not able to detect a network shared folder?

[@onknight]

Now that you figured out the bugs you should do a full tutorial on this I would love to make the change

[@moistmoustache420]

sooooo i know you said it wasn't a tutorial ....... buuuuuuuuttt ..... well it works and i love it ! :D

[@imnlfn]

Same!

[@micheldaggelinckx9650]

postfix is an e-mail server used in this case for sending notifications.

[@zarnilynnkyaw]

can you share a full step by step video?

[@dmbrv]

nice idea

[@HardwareHaven]

Thanks!

[@pg_usa]

I will try it

[@BradLasers]

how'd you do that last thing, making syncthing use the raid? it's... the reason I watched this video haha

[@jsontimdenis]

is it possible to install CasaOs on antix?

[@VizionHUN]

Advice for this setup: don't change share settings in CasaOS, and don't share folders from there. It will overwrite all smb settings, 'cuz it using its own .conf file. Probably it ruins the OMV shares too.

[@jimmertzos3967]

Been working on openmediavault since version 4, that said casaOS is completely uneeded in this case as openmediavault gives you plugins for docker along with everything else, install portainer ready out of the box containers using the example button

[@autohmae]

This is pretty interesting, I would want to look under the hood to see how well it works

[@stuckinmybox]

At the end I'm a bit confused.. is it a bad idea to install CasaOS on top of OMV? I really like how it all works together. I want to run a raid but I love how CasaOS operates.

[@JHess]

casaos is not a nas solution. it is simply a docker manager like portainer but 'simpler'. omv is a nas solution, that can also run docker containers but isn't great at it. i would do exactly this setup...except i'd install proxmox and then put omv for storage management and casaos for docker management. (sorry so long to answer)

[@onknight]

I wish you'd do a more in-depth video in this I've tried to set this up twice with open media about 7 and failed

[@electricjuice5627]

Casaos is still very buggy regarding public shares, rebooting the system sometimes removes the shares. But the software is maturing and the developers are nice

[@HardwareHaven]

Are you talking about shares that CasaOS is providing or using? I haven't had issues as of yet with files shares but have had some issues when I try to mount other shares within CasaOS

[@NobodyCentral]

Just out of curiosity, what would be the benefits of doing this compared to using something like TrueNAS? Is this less hardware intensive or just a better UI/UX overall?

[@HardwareHaven]

Just different UI mostly. TrueNAS uses zfs which is also a big difference

[@lukasznijak]

True nas requared more ram than omv

[@MarioChefCazan]

I caught the video when I was thinking about a home server. What a coincidence!

[@HardwareHaven]

Haha nice! Hopefully it won’t cause any issues

[@MarioChefCazan]

@@HardwareHaven All your videos, I can call them tutorials, have always worked. I can take them as a very good example!

[@dkeisk]

I'm no expert but why not host each as a separate docker container and then link them?

[@SrPivete13]

I USE THAT a 6 mounths,and it's PERFECT

[@znatnodobre]

how is it now?

[@SrPivete13]

@@znatnodobre great

[@fmlazar]

Neat feature for CASA OS to include a Guru Meditation alert.

[@neo92vip]

Okay, the question is why it didn't work when updating the port via GUI ?.....

[@Turbojugend27]

Unraid, while not free, it's worth it for a rock solid setup, that is better than omv and casaos

[@jonayamaha3215]

ports end on 65535, 2 bytes variables, 10080>65535.user ports range from 1024 to 49151. thanks for the video man.

[@wertyhog1981]

10,080 is greater than 65,535?

[@jonayamaha3215]

@@wertyhog1981 touche, i typed that like a monkey, sry.

[@nichenson7987]

Port 10080 is one of the many blocked ports by most browsers as it is easily exploited.

[@HardwareHaven]

Good to know!

[@tofailtowin9046]

I use OMV for iSCSI

[@Ian.Smith44]

You should set up a channel on floatplane, I would definitely subscribe

[@Mike-Denver]

This is cool. Actually I thought so. They are both Linux based ie Debian, they are both use Linux as localhost server and they are both Web apps. My guess would be is that any Web app can be launched in parallel to these two guys omv and casaos. You just need to accommodate them on different ports so they don't conflict with each other when they communicate with the same Linux based server. Also, I think you can download and install some kind of Linux GUI, actually Denis distros. I do not know why would you need that as you you would need to physically connect display keyboard and mouse to your [NAS] device. Maybe instead you rum remote desktop though... 🤔

[@BrianThomas]

Not sure if anyone said anything yet, but why not install CasaOS in a container. In a sense you'll have a docker running inside of docker container.

[@HardwareHaven]

If they make an image I would give it a shot. I imagine it might be a bit of a pain to setup on my own in a debian container. I would probably have to figure out all the dependencies and such

[@SanjaySingh-ls5io]

This is exactly what I intend to do, however, the question I have is doesn't Zimaboard come with Casa OS preinstalled on it already? So now I do already have the casa os do I have to wipe it out first or is overwrite it with OMV and then reinstall the casaos is the only solution like you did show the video. Could you please please shed some light on this before I jump into this and break everything.

[@HardwareHaven]

You shouldn’t need to reinstall CasaOS if you have a zimaboard with it pre installed

[@SanjaySingh-ls5io]

@@HardwareHaven thanks a ton for quick response. Very much appreciate the help.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

Is Hardware Haven the ultimate Home Cloud channel?

[@HardwareHaven]

I’ve gone from used desktop haven to NAS haven to home cloud haven. Pretty soon I’ll go back and start the cycle again I guess haha

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@HardwareHaven let's turn this used desktop NAS into a home cloud. All three in one video!

[@JaikrishnaAdithya]

​@@MarcoGPUtuber yeah it's a pretty good idea

[@HardwareHaven]

Hahaha

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@JaikrishnaAdithya I'll bust out the hardware for _Hardware_ Haven?

[@pcglorious3183]

Greeeat

[@_Techie_]

300 subscribers more let's go!!!

[@hummel6364]

TrueNAS SCALE?

[@santozard]

why not trueNas with casaos?

[@HardwareHaven]

I think OMV is a little bit simpler and maybe less likely to have issues with other software running alongside it, but it’s totally possible that this could work with TrueNAS scale as well.

[@ykwai79mytuber]

it may not be a tutorial im gonna do it anyways already backed up my data and gonna try it lelelel

[@DominikZalewski85]

Have a look at UmbrelOS

[@dariorodriguez204]

Chabon porque tantoproblema, le cambias el pueto 80 por otro y listo, instalas casaos le metes umbrel y hasta cosmos en el mismo disco y en una raspberry

[@NicksStuff]

You don't need OMV to use RAID with CasaOS. Install Debian, configure your RAID, install CasaOS

[@5drtfygunjm]

This video made me cringe and then cringe and then cringe again. 10/10 would watch again.

[@ArifKamaruzaman]

Ah so casaOS can change the directory that way.

[@TechTalkz-tz1ti]

3rd

[@rockymarquiss8327]

The knock against CasaOS because it doesn't have RAID is misguided. Casa OS runs as an app - just like Libre Office - it isn't an Operating System in of itself. OpenMedia Vault itself even doesn't do RAID. In both cases RAID is done by the underlying OS - it's just that Casa OS is implemented as an App in an OS such as Ubuntu. Ubuntu in this case would be handling RAID, it would be totally inappropriate for CasaOS to implement RAID. This is also true of Open Media Vault - it is Debian handling the RAID - NOT Open Media Vault.

[@HardwareHaven]

I get what you’re saying and I get that CasaOS isn’t an operating system. But if I use your example, Libre Office, I could still make a similar point. Yes, libre office isn’t the thing handling the file system and storage, but if you couldn’t save your files when using it, I think just about anyone would say that it’s lacking a crucial feature. Same goes with open media vault. Really it’s just an application built on top of debian, but if it couldn’t handle raid in the web UI, it wouldn’t really be worth using. Hopefully we’re on the same page now 👍🏻

[@happyguy058]

First

[@yevhendyachenko1384]

Please, stop using OMV. It is outdated, lacks basic security, vulnerable and buggy.