Is This the Worst WW2 Film Ever? "The Fall of Berlin" (1950)

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Brandon F.

Brandon F.

Күн бұрын

There are an awful lot of terrible movies set in the Second World War. It's unfortunate, but largely expected, given how...'popular' the history of the war often is. But out of all the 'Nazi Zombies,' Michael Bay films, and Furys (Furies? Fury's?) of the world...I daresay that this film is among the worst. Certainly, it is among the most disturbing that I have ever seen. And I've seen a lot of disturbing WW2 films. More often than not, they're disturbing for a good reason...because the source material is quite disturbing. Not this time.
No, this time it's for a whole other reason. This is "The Fall of Berlin," a 1950 Soviet film...and that should be all you need to know...
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@ll-zn9zb
@ll-zn9zb 5 жыл бұрын
Dont blame the writer. He didn't want to be sent to a gulag
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 5 жыл бұрын
Huh... thought he already was in Gulag
@honnebombll
@honnebombll 5 жыл бұрын
@freebeerfordworkers I remember that interview as well, at the Premier his father (the director) was sitting nearby Stalin in a cinema, during the scene in which Stalin salutes the troops from the plane door he looked towards the real Stalin and saw him smiling, in that moment he said, he knew that he is safed.
@coeurdelion689
@coeurdelion689 5 жыл бұрын
@freebeerfordworkers I remember seeing this also, pretty interesting to get an inside look about how these films were made.
@AlexSDU
@AlexSDU 5 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna post this comment so I can get a follow up when someone post the link of that interview.
@kylewhitt1760
@kylewhitt1760 5 жыл бұрын
It comes from the documentary Stalin: The Man of Steel, which I believe is still on KZbin
@broomy1610
@broomy1610 5 жыл бұрын
The war is over, I have killed many and all my friends are dead but now I must dance
@thetrashman5252
@thetrashman5252 5 жыл бұрын
Failure to dance will lead to you being sent to the gulag comrade.
@thedoctorairsoft6813
@thedoctorairsoft6813 5 жыл бұрын
@@thetrashman5252 DA
@praeceptor
@praeceptor 5 жыл бұрын
'Must' seems to be the very appropriate verb.
@AnnoNymus
@AnnoNymus 4 жыл бұрын
Tbf this did happen. Russians were overjoyed that the last four years of literal hell were now over.
@Colddirector
@Colddirector 4 жыл бұрын
*dabs for the fallen* *default dancing across Berlin*
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 5 жыл бұрын
They could have been so much more subtle. Like Hitler exiting his bunker in a giant death mecha, then having Stalin come in his own mecha and beat Hitler in single combat
@chankljp
@chankljp 5 жыл бұрын
Implying that comrade Stalin would need some crude capitalist robotic contraption to beat Hitler in single combat: Off to the Lubyanka with you!
@thebrutusmars
@thebrutusmars 5 жыл бұрын
Stalin didn’t have a mecha. He defeated the Hitler mecha with his own wit.
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 5 жыл бұрын
@@thebrutusmars the mecha was made from good communist atoms willingly gathering around Stalin
@sparetime2475
@sparetime2475 5 жыл бұрын
Duke of Lorraine the Stalin mecha used the hammer and sickle to kill hitler
@dragonsword7370
@dragonsword7370 4 жыл бұрын
Stalin was already a mecha, he would Just one punch tko hitler lol.
@nicolasvillamil7523
@nicolasvillamil7523 5 жыл бұрын
I loved how healthy the concentration camp prisoners looked lmao
@mrmoth26
@mrmoth26 3 жыл бұрын
An apple a day keeps the guard away.
@Warszawski_Modernizm
@Warszawski_Modernizm 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrmoth26 "single apple once a day/ keeps selection far away"
@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif
@WurrzagsMorkyMischeif 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrmoth26 an apple would've been like a five star gourmet feast for them
@bokonoo77
@bokonoo77 2 жыл бұрын
i mean according to the movie there was no allied bombin
@alisaurus4224
@alisaurus4224 2 жыл бұрын
Proximity to Stalin cured their malnutrition
@razzledazzle8593
@razzledazzle8593 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: the guy who plays Stalin in this movie was Stalin’s actual political body double after World War II. He was pretty much the guy to call for movies like this
@ArizonaJoeHines
@ArizonaJoeHines 8 ай бұрын
I wonder what the movie Stalin's accent was. The real Stalin was from Georgia, and he had quite an accent when speaking Russian. In the movie The Death Of Stalin he is given a cockney accent when speaking English.
@ClemDiamond
@ClemDiamond 6 ай бұрын
​@@ArizonaJoeHinesThe actor was georgian too, which is partly why Stalin favoured him to play as himself in movies.
@oats4632
@oats4632 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know WW2 had a dance party ending. Kinda like shrek
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
Well, that's a comparison I never thought I'd hear...
@sparetime2475
@sparetime2475 5 жыл бұрын
Only one actually has all our favorite things in life and one is shrek
@konstantinosnikolakakis8125
@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 5 жыл бұрын
Well there was probably some drinking and dancing done eventually.
@madcourier6217
@madcourier6217 4 жыл бұрын
@@konstantinosnikolakakis8125 and Rape. Lots and lots of Rape...
@looker999997
@looker999997 4 жыл бұрын
Panzershrek
@historysquad
@historysquad 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys you remember when Stalin showed up in a plane to Berlin? And the Allies said "long live Stalin?" No? Just me? Oh ok.
@ryanjapan3113
@ryanjapan3113 5 жыл бұрын
Potential Starfish it’s was a joke
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 5 жыл бұрын
Wait... you mean that didn't happen?
@CH-wp5hp
@CH-wp5hp 5 жыл бұрын
Stalin would never even take a plane because he was afraid of flying.
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sltarfish at least he didn't murder a good joke
@AlexSDU
@AlexSDU 5 жыл бұрын
@@Jakitojestkolor instead of 'Woosh', how about 'Nyeeeeooong!'?
@thrifikionor7603
@thrifikionor7603 5 жыл бұрын
As a german, the sound of accordeons still strikes fear in my heart
@arnekrug939
@arnekrug939 5 жыл бұрын
You are not from Hamburg, are you?
@thrifikionor7603
@thrifikionor7603 5 жыл бұрын
@@arnekrug939 No, im from south Germany
@arnekrug939
@arnekrug939 5 жыл бұрын
@@thrifikionor7603 That's what I thought because accordeons are often played for tourists there.
@madcourier6217
@madcourier6217 5 жыл бұрын
@@arnekrug939 DANCE MONKIES DANCE FOR GLORIOUS COMRADE STALIN!!
@thrifikionor7603
@thrifikionor7603 5 жыл бұрын
@@arnekrug939 Germans up there must have PTSD from all the constant sound of accordeons
@lukelee7967
@lukelee7967 5 жыл бұрын
The actor who played Stalin for years wasn't allowed to play any character aside from Stalin.
@edlawn5481
@edlawn5481 10 ай бұрын
Now that's what I call, typecasting.
@lukelee7967
@lukelee7967 10 ай бұрын
@@edlawn5481 Have you ever seen that guy who played Stalin and Brent Spiner in the same place at the same time?
@somepolishmoment9118
@somepolishmoment9118 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon: takes off hat to put headphones on German ww2 radio operators: *PATHETIC*
@teodorogerald
@teodorogerald 4 жыл бұрын
Some polish Boi Russian and Americans: (also does the same thing in the 1960s-1970s) Also Russian and Americans: *Im gonna pretend that I did not see that*
@Mike-im5bo
@Mike-im5bo 3 жыл бұрын
Brandon should have done what Patton told the doctor at the beginning of the movie "Patton", "Cut holes in your helmet".
@chringlanthegreat4556
@chringlanthegreat4556 5 жыл бұрын
Instruments in war The French: fifes The Germans: Drums The Scottish: bagpipes (my favourite) The Soviets: the almighty instrument of the people of the communist union of the Soviet state, the accordion
@themadoneplays7842
@themadoneplays7842 5 жыл бұрын
The Americans: the electric guitar :p
@hauntologicalwittgensteini2542
@hauntologicalwittgensteini2542 5 жыл бұрын
Uh Stalin's Organ
@armorsmith43
@armorsmith43 5 жыл бұрын
the funny thing about this is that accordions are quite expensive.
@Aewon84
@Aewon84 5 жыл бұрын
Hyruleans: Ocarina
@micahistory
@micahistory 5 жыл бұрын
the french had white flags
@MegaOverEasy
@MegaOverEasy 5 жыл бұрын
In 1950 Soviet Union, films were made for Stalin, not for anyone else.
@Cryros_sphere
@Cryros_sphere 4 жыл бұрын
so porn to stroke his own ego basically?
@teodorogerald
@teodorogerald 4 жыл бұрын
Cryrosphere I believe so........ Thats basically how communism works.....
@04279
@04279 4 жыл бұрын
Especially this one was made for his birthday. Therefore it shows Stalin as a "God in white" arriving in Berlin, even if he never left the Soviet Union except for a meeting in Teheran in 1943.
@penjamfilms
@penjamfilms 4 жыл бұрын
Naah. Believe it or not, there were loads, and I mean loads, of people in the Soviet Union, who viewed Stalin as a hero and wanted to see a film like that. Just because millions suffered under Stalin's terror, doesn't mean that some other millions didn't adore him.
@04279
@04279 4 жыл бұрын
@@penjamfilms And tehre are still people like this. Those people who also forbid the movie "The Death of Stalin" to show in Russia and some of the former Soviet republics. You might like it, you might not but there is no reason to forbid it. Some people claimed that this is an insult to Stalin, the goverment of 1953 and to the veterans of WW2 (which wasn't mentioned in the first place).
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 5 жыл бұрын
Stalin showing up in the fallen capital of a hostile state? Who does he think he is? Abraham Lincoln?
@Chillerll
@Chillerll 4 жыл бұрын
Who does he think he is? Hitler visiting Paris?
@Zarastro54
@Zarastro54 2 жыл бұрын
-fallen capital of a hostile state- Fallen state capital of an section of his country in rebellion 👍
@whitequasar4686
@whitequasar4686 2 жыл бұрын
Atleast Abraham Lincoln was a chad
@maxnash8450
@maxnash8450 Жыл бұрын
@@whitequasar4686 sure was
@singulartrout
@singulartrout 5 жыл бұрын
Eventually in the fuhrerbunker, The distant sound of artillery was replaced with something far more terrifying.... _the standard issue accordions_
@user-ft3jq5vi2l
@user-ft3jq5vi2l 3 жыл бұрын
Then downfall hitty starts ranting.
@ΚοινωνικόςΟρθολογιστής
@ΚοινωνικόςΟρθολογιστής 5 жыл бұрын
Also, about the men praising Stalin while he was kissing the girl, the first guy who spoke was Greek. He said :" Ζήτω Ο Συντροφος Σταλιν, ο ήρωας του Ελληνικού λαού." Which means : " Long live commrade Stalin, the hero of the Greek people".
@panosfasoul699
@panosfasoul699 4 жыл бұрын
Αουτς
@Gia1911Logous
@Gia1911Logous 4 жыл бұрын
Τι μαλακία λολ Γι'αυτό είναι που νικήσε τον εμφύλιο η δημοκρατία XD Τι σκατά
@ey7290
@ey7290 4 жыл бұрын
Yet it was the Brits who liberated Greece with the invasion of occupied Greece in October 1944
@jokester3076
@jokester3076 4 жыл бұрын
Aaron Bral Stalin went to war against Bulgaria who were part of the Axis invasion of Greece.
@classifiedamphibian4649
@classifiedamphibian4649 3 жыл бұрын
@@ey7290 No! That was comrade Stalin pretending to be British! Long live Stalin!
@danielknowles3051
@danielknowles3051 5 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the time in “Flags of Our Fathers” when the Marines raised the flags and all the other Marines stopped fighting and started a flash mob. Powerful stuff
@ryanjapan3113
@ryanjapan3113 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Knowles fun fact that was a sister film to the Japanese-American letters from Iwo Jima
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 5 жыл бұрын
No, you're thinking of the much older film, The Sands of Iwo Jima. The flag goes up, *spoiler* John Wayne dies, and his men break out a guitar, a full drumset, a trumpet, a saxophone, and Benny Goodman leads them in a rousing jazz rendition of The Marine Corps Hymn as marines dance with geishas to celebrate. Then FDR arrives, and through the power of emotion is able to get out of his wheelchair and do the jitterbug with Eleanor on Mt Surabachi. Truly a stirring scene.
@abandonedchannel281
@abandonedchannel281 5 жыл бұрын
Garret LeBuis Man propaganda back then
@AlexSDU
@AlexSDU 5 жыл бұрын
@@eldorados_lost_searcher Interesting enough, the real Ira Hayes, Rene Gagnon & John Bradley were in the movie. John Wayne gave Gagnon the flag before he dies from the wound.
@rnrailproductions5049
@rnrailproductions5049 5 жыл бұрын
Garret LeBuis would you mind sharing a link of this particular scene?
@robertrayes4566
@robertrayes4566 5 жыл бұрын
Brother...the accordions...I always knew this day would come...
@andrewphillips8341
@andrewphillips8341 5 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@madcourier6217
@madcourier6217 4 жыл бұрын
@Sean Wilkinson HOW DARE YOU FLAUNT THAT CAPITILASITC DIAHREA! YOU WILL HAND THEM OUT FOR ENTIRE COUNTRY NOW OR BE SENT TO GULAG!
@YnotTheTony
@YnotTheTony 4 жыл бұрын
First minutes: "Oh! It's a very dramatic film. Ok." Later: "OH GOD!!!! IT'S A *MUSICAL*!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!"
@trycoldman2358
@trycoldman2358 5 жыл бұрын
We Germans feared the eary *Stalin Accordion*
@madcourier6217
@madcourier6217 4 жыл бұрын
Then everytime Oktoberfest rolls around it must be like one big national PTSD flashback... XD
@historyarmyproductions
@historyarmyproductions 4 жыл бұрын
Hey look who it is. I love you're work, dear sir.
@LegendaryKazooMann1936
@LegendaryKazooMann1936 4 жыл бұрын
I am proud of this "almost" Katyusha reference
@teddyneptunereacts0396
@teddyneptunereacts0396 4 жыл бұрын
@@LegendaryKazooMann1936 But wouldn't that be the Stalin Organ (Stalinorgel)?
@LegendaryKazooMann1936
@LegendaryKazooMann1936 4 жыл бұрын
@@teddyneptunereacts0396 Oh yeah! My bad, I just listened to "Katysha" and had it on the brain 😂
@maximilienrobespierre7927
@maximilienrobespierre7927 5 жыл бұрын
-Hitler shoots himself -Reichstag falls -Stalin arrives German women on streets of Berlin be like: "Yay, one ruthless dictator is replaced by another ruthless dictator! Huzzah!"
@BigPuddin
@BigPuddin 4 жыл бұрын
"I can't wait to be arrested and raped by the Cheka Police!" *flashes her titties at incoming Russian soldiers*
@madcourier6217
@madcourier6217 4 жыл бұрын
@@BigPuddin *Other Berlin Women* : Time to shame rape survivors for the next 50 years!
@zacharymohammadi
@zacharymohammadi 4 жыл бұрын
Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!
@JackClockerinos
@JackClockerinos 4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was you that killed Hitler, Fegelein.
@joeblow9657
@joeblow9657 4 жыл бұрын
German woman: Am I getting raped now?
@davidmcintyre998
@davidmcintyre998 5 жыл бұрын
The actor playing Stalin was the real Stalins favourite,he looks like Stalin in his coffin to me,when he watched the film Stalin who did not like to fly said thats how i should have done it.Soviet people saw through all of this.
@athomicritics
@athomicritics 5 жыл бұрын
Stalin forced him to only play him in any movie that was to feature him as a character , poor actor couldnt play anything else than Stalin in propaganda movies until Stalin died of course
@athomicritics
@athomicritics 5 жыл бұрын
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikheil_Gelovani sadly no , he died 3 years after the dictator and during those 3 years he was denied any roles cause of how much he had been associated with portraying stalin
@Igor-ug1uo
@Igor-ug1uo 5 жыл бұрын
A fun fact. The actor didn't speak with Stalin's real Georgian accent and used regular Russian accent. Stalin didn't like to be portraid speaking seemingly bad Russian.
@pyromania1018
@pyromania1018 4 жыл бұрын
@@Igor-ug1uo Gelovani COULD imitate Stalin's accent, but Stalin didn't like that and told him to stop.
@Captainkebbles1392
@Captainkebbles1392 5 жыл бұрын
*pearl harbor laughing in the background*
@lefevrecorinne7608
@lefevrecorinne7608 5 жыл бұрын
Tora Tora Tora is far better
@Captainkebbles1392
@Captainkebbles1392 5 жыл бұрын
@@lefevrecorinne7608 that's the joke, like this movie is somehow worse than Pearl Harbor unless lol
@sergiojuanmembiela6223
@sergiojuanmembiela6223 5 жыл бұрын
"The Patriot" is sitting at the coach, smiling while petting its cat...
@jasonbrody1540
@jasonbrody1540 5 жыл бұрын
@@sergiojuanmembiela6223 And meanwhile "The Son of Saul" is soaking his balls in the swimming pool
@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151
@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Brody And Braveheart is teaching gym.
@Monosekist
@Monosekist 5 жыл бұрын
I think this film does a good job of achieving what it is meant to do. And by that I mean this video, not the movie.
@dan_mer
@dan_mer 4 жыл бұрын
I remember watching this movie when I was a kid behind the Iron curtain. I was maybe 7 or 8, but I remember being puzzled where they got all the women, concentration camp victims, Stalin, why did the Germans celebrate their defeat. My 8-year-old brain could not compute that. But you know what really got me: how the hell did they know what the future flag of Yugoslavia would look like?
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions 3 жыл бұрын
You were thinking very well! There are so many problems with this film that West and East can agree on one thing: even without the secret police looming over the filmmakers, those filmmakers weren't very good at being that! Can you link me to the part with the anachronistic Yugoslav flag?
@livingdeadgirl5691
@livingdeadgirl5691 Жыл бұрын
I have the same memory but with the different film Battle of Sutjeska, in real life 5000 partisans died in this large canyon where german forces just massacerd them cuz they were chargin at them up the hill. The movie makes it seem like it's some heroic deed when in reality it was a needless massacre of young men and women that were forced to charge up a steep hill. They were basicly target practice for the germans....
@Pancasilaist8752
@Pancasilaist8752 Жыл бұрын
@@livingdeadgirl5691 reminds me of the charge of light brigade in the crimean war. In British propaganda, this charge was portrayed as the sacrifice and heroism of a British light cavalry brigade against all odds. in reality, this attack was the result of their commander's stupid and incompetent decision. and the fact that they were below the canyon while the Russian infantry was above it didn't help either. as a result, the light cavalry brigade became nothing more than shooting practice for Russian infantry and cannons. resulting in unnecessary casualties.
@gazdaalimpije4038
@gazdaalimpije4038 5 ай бұрын
Yugoslavia was a thing then and that flag was officical by then lol
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr 24 күн бұрын
where is that? by that time the red star already was on the flag of yugoslavia, unless you were referring the starless one which existed in 1992 but was indeed used from 1918 to 1943 when tito came about
@wizar6712
@wizar6712 5 жыл бұрын
Totally unrealistic, that movie is I didn't see Dmitri destroying the symbol of their decadence even once!
@r0de
@r0de 3 жыл бұрын
Guess him and Reznov must've been on the other side of the Reichstag What a shame that Dimitri passed out from the wound he received, poor chap missed out on the massive dance party that started literally two minutes later
@thomaswilson3827
@thomaswilson3827 3 жыл бұрын
I guess Reznov was too busy being in a gulag to attend…
@Alex-qh5ll
@Alex-qh5ll 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaswilson3827 Stalin had little need for heroes..
@swoogity6649
@swoogity6649 5 жыл бұрын
Please include more sketches like the one between Zhukov and Stalin
@smuu1996
@smuu1996 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@dlxmarks
@dlxmarks 5 жыл бұрын
Stalin would have absolutely had Zhukov liquidated if he thought he could get away with it. Stalin went after the local party leaders of Leningrad for the treasonous crime of surviving the German siege and being generally admired for it.
@bobmcgahey1280
@bobmcgahey1280 4 жыл бұрын
@@dlxmarks you would think so but actually that does not seem to be true he kinda of like Zhukov cause Zhuk had balls of steel and would yell at him--it was Beria that wanted him whacked.
@JohnSmith-il7jn
@JohnSmith-il7jn 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon, did they use real bullets in this movie to give it that classic Soviet realism feel? Maybe there were no second takes if you know what I mean. lol.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
You know, in a way, it really wouldn't surprise me that much.
@Boilerz1
@Boilerz1 5 жыл бұрын
You are thinking of the polar opposite soviet ww2 film, Come and See (1985) where they do use live fire over the actor's heads.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, did Cecil B. DeMille direct this?
@brochvilla5953
@brochvilla5953 5 жыл бұрын
Wait, it says that your comment (John Smith) was commented 19 hours again whilst Brandon's comment is 21 hours since, hmmmmmm...
@essexclass8168
@essexclass8168 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonF Bet Beria had the casting actors *listed* long before they made the movie
@levankv
@levankv 5 жыл бұрын
It is amusing to see Russian soldiers dancing Georgian dances - a scene to appease Stalin no doubt
@معرفةوترفيه-ت2ظ
@معرفةوترفيه-ت2ظ 5 жыл бұрын
@The_Jaguar_ Knight also stalin wasn't really that much of a "proud Georgian" anyway so I doubt it was done on purpose to appease him
@fus132
@fus132 5 жыл бұрын
@The_Jaguar_ Knight In reality it was majorly Russian though, for example, only around 700,000 soldiers there conscripted from Kazakhstan, a second biggest "soviet republic" (after Russian "s.r." of course). -I'll try to remember there i saw the conscription order, and post it here later, hopefully.- Ethnic composition of rifle divisions (%) from 1 jan. apr. jun. '43 to 1 jan. '44: ic.pics.livejournal.com/pyhalov/31027164/76004/76004_original.jpg (first 4: Russian, Ukrainian, Belorussian, Armenian) Number of casualties total: img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/52765/310023662.37bf/0_78e279_24d6f41f_orig (first 4: Russian, Ukrainian, Belorussian, Uzbek)
@heavypupper1219
@heavypupper1219 5 жыл бұрын
@@fus132 In terms of population Ukraine was bigger than Kazakhstan but ok
@fus132
@fus132 5 жыл бұрын
@@heavypupper1219 I meant in landmass, shouldn't have been writing late at night.
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Georgia contributed over 500,000 soldiers to the Red Army
@alostguy25
@alostguy25 5 жыл бұрын
"Ach Hans, Ve haf lost ze war, listen, you can hear ze dreaded Sowjetisch Accordeonen, zey are taunting us!"
@jamesmortimer4016
@jamesmortimer4016 5 жыл бұрын
THE ALLIES HAVE CAPTURED THE LAST OBJECTIVE! *entire soviet team starts emoting instantly*
@Tareltonlives
@Tareltonlives 3 жыл бұрын
(Fortnite dances)
@Nugcon
@Nugcon 3 жыл бұрын
Default dance on top of the German corpses
@slightlyistorical1776
@slightlyistorical1776 3 жыл бұрын
*taunts
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
This one is a little late. I was planning to have it upload yesterday! Unfortunately, the first time I recorded this video, I managed to forget to turn my lights on! I only realized this as I was in the middle of my outro...oh well. Rather than upload the darker footage (like in my Ashtyn and Jon video, which was before I got my new lights) I decided to re-do the whole thing. That set me back quite a way. But all the same, here we are! For a belated Victory Day!
@gaslightstudiosrebooted3432
@gaslightstudiosrebooted3432 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon F. Stalin was still alive when the film was made.
@BrandonF
@BrandonF 5 жыл бұрын
And his influence is palpable!
@jedynysusznypolityk8322
@jedynysusznypolityk8322 5 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonF In my opinion you should show moment when main Hero meets Stalin in his garden where he is in hagiographic pose - taking care of plants like god in eden.sry for my bad English btw
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 2 жыл бұрын
One surprising thing I'd mention about what you said in this video, Brandon, regarding what if a famous American general had been left out of films like Zhukov: I've seen a lot of World War II films, and there IS in fact a legendary US general who is virtually NEVER shown: Matthew Ridgway. A brilliant commander who during WWII led the Airborne Divisions and even served beside Patton on at least two occasions, and later became a MASSIVE hero for the United States in the Korean War also. Yet, when we look at say Patton (1970), Ridgway and his frankly amazing leadership is NOWHERE to be seen. Now, some might excuse this by saying "Oh but Ridgway was still alive when a number of these films were made, perhaps they didn't think it right to include him yet". However...Omar Bradley lived until 1981, and he appears in stuff like Patton. For possibly several reasons, Hollywood robbed one of America's greatest generals of his fame and glory in order to promote generals like Patton as being bigger heroes on their own than they actually were. What Ridgway's men must have felt, seeing those movies...I can hardly imagine their anger and sadness. As a matter of fact, the only reason I myself know about General Ridgway is because I studied the Korean War, and the bios brought up his earlier World War II heroism. I just sat in disbelief, horrified at what Hollywood had done to the legacy of this man and his soldiers. Just thought I'd share this with you.
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 5 жыл бұрын
Stalin : Of course, I am only following Lenin's ideas! I am very loyal to him! Trotsky : Now, that's what I call a funny joke. **Breaking news : Leon Trotsky found dead with his skull fractured**
@Stalinlover-jx1jy
@Stalinlover-jx1jy 5 жыл бұрын
Although that is what Stalin did he literally did stuff exactly the way lenin wanted. Trotsky was jealous of lenin and when he failed to merge the mensheviks with the bolsheviks, he joined the bolsheviks and pretended that he was a Leninist.
@Mercure250
@Mercure250 5 жыл бұрын
@@Stalinlover-jx1jy Says the guy with that nickname. How can I be sure you're not just spouting propaganda, huh? Oh well, I'm not a fan of any kind of Leninism anyway, so it's not like that matters to me.
@KaptajnKaffe
@KaptajnKaffe 5 жыл бұрын
Oh no, you did it now! The communist apologists are Coming for you now!
@lkvideos7181
@lkvideos7181 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mercure250 Nickname or not, that's simple history lol
@spooky7439
@spooky7439 5 жыл бұрын
@@Stalinlover-jx1jy no he simply didn't. stalin made his own isolationist system while Lenin wanted free trade. stalin privatised everything while Lenin wanted to have little firms that had to follow the rules of the state however werent completely owned by the state till they would be an pretty big sice. once they reached that sice they would have been privatised
@oliversherman2414
@oliversherman2414 2 жыл бұрын
German generals after leaving Hitler's bunker: *Sees Soviet troops dancing in the streets* Also German generals: Nope, I'm going back in the bunker
@DrelvanianGuardOffic
@DrelvanianGuardOffic 5 жыл бұрын
"I don't think so Stalin, I don't think so writers of this film.." You basically said Stalin twice.
@LLT8
@LLT8 5 жыл бұрын
Who would win? The entirety of the German Eastern Front Or some Russian with a standard issue accordion mkII loud blast
@HoH
@HoH 5 жыл бұрын
That portrayal of Stalin at the end of the movie allows for a unique look in the way Russians perceived him (after years of indoctrination). A horrible "god" indeed, Brandon. Great video! Your analysis was very interesting and thought-provoking.
@strikeforce1500
@strikeforce1500 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think something similar happens in North Korea?
@Reagan1984
@Reagan1984 4 жыл бұрын
Same with Mao.
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 2 жыл бұрын
@@strikeforce1500 YES. It does. I've done my own research on the North Koreans, Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-il are like deities there, their very bodies are preserved and on display in the government palace, along with giant statues set up in public that people bow down to. Cult, an absolute cult.
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr 24 күн бұрын
im surprised i havent seen tito portrayed like that at all i mean kim il sung definitely lmao, look at north korean propaganda kim jong il supposedly doesnt even refer to his own father as father, but the president, as if he's unrelated
@Eamonshort1
@Eamonshort1 5 жыл бұрын
Can I just say I appreciate how genuine you are, you don't overplay your outrage to clickbait, you are reserved but you can tell you are seething underneath but you don't exploit the true horror of what happened in typical over the top "KZbinr watches a bad movie" manner to incite fake moral outrage to appeal to the lowest common denominator EDIT: also I don't know why but I laughed heartly at "Eva Braun's garden"
@lenka2042
@lenka2042 5 жыл бұрын
Xaris Xeros Oh stop with the ‘20 million innocent Russians’ shite. What about the countries they invaded? What about the hundreds of thousands murdered at the hands of the Bolsheviks?
@Mentol_
@Mentol_ 5 жыл бұрын
> more than 20 million INNOCENT Russians. Proof please. > What about the countries they invaded? What were these countries? Exept Finland.
@Eamonshort1
@Eamonshort1 5 жыл бұрын
@Xaris Xeros oh I agree with you people here saying the Russians aren't innocent? Yes, those people were, poor, uneducated farmers who were not guilty of the actions of their state, a state which largely oppressed them, but I don't think he was positing that Germans didn't do fucked up shit dude. This was a response to a film not a 20hr docuseries on the attrocities of WW2, when you talk about any WW2 event are you expected to list every event happening everywhere in that time? He was responding to a text not analysing the broad historical tapestry of global conflict and expecting him to do so is idiotic when it's not even 100% agreed on with all the resources of the entire acedemic community. Just because he said that what happened in what he was responding to was incorrect doesn't mean he is pro nazi and for you to suggest that is incredibly disingenuous and your eye for an eye argument ? What you are saying is hey retribution on their part would be fair, the Nazis did it!. Your setting the bar for ethical conduct at the Nazis did it so so can we? I ironically hear you using more Third Reich rhetoric in this comment of denunciation than in his video.
@lenka2042
@lenka2042 5 жыл бұрын
Xaris Xeros I haven’t justified anything, you’re the one here wearing the rose tinted glasses. Someone says something you don’t like and you accuse them of being demented & using drugs because you have no other argument.
@patchesohoolihan666
@patchesohoolihan666 5 жыл бұрын
@Xaris Xeros Innocent russian is an oxymoron
@The_Laughing_Cavalier
@The_Laughing_Cavalier 5 жыл бұрын
You should see the one they did in the later sixties/seventies (the name eludes me off the top of my head) with, I kid you not, Hitler slowly approaching Eva Braun like in a horror movie, strangling her, putting her body on his desk, then crying out for his valet Linge whilst he struggles to take a suicide pill! Also, doesn't this 1950 one have a scene where Hitler orders the underground flooded and then an officer goes to another room in the Fuhrerbunker where he turns a comically large red wheel to flood it? I seem to remember a documentary years ago where the director (or his son?) of this was interviewed and said he was at a private screening of the film with Stalin and spent the whole thing worrying if he would be purged, but thankfully for him, Stalin liked the film!
@ChristianVBlue3
@ChristianVBlue3 5 жыл бұрын
I think the film you are referring to is called Liberation. You can also see it on KZbin. Its a bit better than this film
@narratorjack7868
@narratorjack7868 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianVBlue3 can you link it?
@thunderbird1921
@thunderbird1921 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like they were going for an Emperor Nero of Rome angle, where he killed his wife gruesomely and then later committed suicide to avoid capture by Galba and the Senate. What a miserable life for Soviet filmmakers. At least Brezhnev allowed Sergei Bondarchuk to make his legendary battle epics. They're literally some of the best I've ever seen on 19th Century warfare.
@bcompany650
@bcompany650 5 жыл бұрын
The movie is very good For Writer that don't want go to gulag
@paulbrower
@paulbrower 2 ай бұрын
It is full of asurdities and implausiities, especially wth Stalin getting credit for re-uniing a couple split in the war by the war.
@michaelray4033
@michaelray4033 4 жыл бұрын
a WW2 film without a romantic subplot is a masterpiece.
@Timrath
@Timrath 5 жыл бұрын
The soundtrack was written by Dmitri Shostakovich, who was hated by Stalin. He narrowly escaped being sent to Siberia because the policeman who was supposed to arrest him was himself sent to the gulag one day before he could carry out his task. By the time the arrest order for Shostakovich resurfaced again, Stalin had already died.
@estoor4258
@estoor4258 5 жыл бұрын
Shostakovich was playing 20D chess
@WordleTurdle
@WordleTurdle 4 жыл бұрын
This is a whole new level of Stalin, you send so many people to the Gulag that there is no one left to arrest people.
@BigPuddin
@BigPuddin 4 жыл бұрын
Ha. Something similar happened to Sergei Prokofiev, the composer behind another propoganda film, Alexander Nevsky. The Teutonic knights are wearing swastikas in that one lol.
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr
@MattSuguisAsFondAsEverrr 24 күн бұрын
this is a certified schostakowitsch moment
@hagnartheviking6584
@hagnartheviking6584 5 жыл бұрын
Still better then the writing of Game of thrones this season
@Blunderbussy
@Blunderbussy 5 жыл бұрын
Then you see Stalin with a cup of Starbucks...
@nailey7958
@nailey7958 5 жыл бұрын
Hitler kinda forgot about the Russian winter.
@plutarchvonpluto6439
@plutarchvonpluto6439 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if in the final siege, right after the last dragon kills all the civilians inside the castle, someone kills Cersei, all her soldiers instantly stop fighting and surrender in droves and throw their flags in front of the victors, the last few surviving civilians come out and sing with the attacking army (even after they literally burned by direct order from Daenerys and many of their loved ones died), every named character comes forth to thank the soldiers and finally Daenerys herself comes to say to everyone that she wants peace.
@bryanmanuel4945
@bryanmanuel4945 4 жыл бұрын
@@plutarchvonpluto6439 Wouldn't be suprised she saw herself that way.
@command_unit7792
@command_unit7792 5 жыл бұрын
Eh it was a victory celebration...moscow litterally run out of vodka...
@zeus-odinchiefs6737
@zeus-odinchiefs6737 5 жыл бұрын
Back in Moscow
@thekingshussar1808
@thekingshussar1808 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry they had the beutiful German womans
@Kriegter
@Kriegter 4 жыл бұрын
"veterans of the war would be thrown into the gulags after their struggle" Reznov black ops 1 flashbacks
@arnantphongsatha7906
@arnantphongsatha7906 4 жыл бұрын
I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE!
@artemgushin5228
@artemgushin5228 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking, looting and rape were punishable in the Soviet army (as in any army except the Germans), so first we accuse the Soviets of raping someone, then we accuse the Soviets of throwing those who did it in jail) no one anywhere specifies exactly what someone was jailed for, no one will search for personal records, so you can say anything)
@901Sherman
@901Sherman 3 жыл бұрын
That depends. Sometimes they were punished for such acts, other times they weren’t. There were officers and even high ranking generals who supported or didn’t care what the troops were doing to the civilians but others (like Rokossovsky) who enforced brutal laws against acts of rape, murder, plunder, and the like against civilians. As with everything regarding history, its never as cut and dry as we want it to be.
@JKhyway
@JKhyway 3 жыл бұрын
@@artemgushin5228 Looting and rape was severely punished in the German military, they were very strict about a lot of things. On the other hand, Soviet Soldiers we’re not punished for looting and rape, but we’re encouraged to do so. Not saying all Russians were rapist, and they’re were definitely cases of rape in the German military. Don’t believe everything you see in Hollywood and Russian made movies.
@JKhyway
@JKhyway 3 жыл бұрын
@@elmascapo6588 yea rear line units and units who recruited criminals or Soviet POWs like the dirlewanger brigade but not usually front like units, they were too busy fighting, not saying there weren’t cases but there were very few.
@dcfrank4904
@dcfrank4904 4 жыл бұрын
In a sad twist where failure would have probably been preferable to success was the actor who portrayed Stalin in most Soviet films of the era, including this one. The Georgian born Russian actor Mikheil Gelovani. His portrayal of Stalin was so good, much more flattering in appearance and stature than the real Stalin, Gelovani was only allowed playing Stalin since. Once Kruschev came to power and destalinization has become, most of Gelovani's work was censored due to all of his roles being that of Stalin, basically shunned for this. Poor Gelovani basically was accused of being a decoy for Stalin. Until his death, the only work he could find were plays in the Moscow theater. Such a sad turn of events for an actor who was only trying to find work, not like he had much choice. Stalin himself was very short, around 163cm [ 5'4" ] rather small man,left arm was lame from an accident as well as his face scarred from smallpox. He was quite a pathetic looking figure. Gelovani was much taller, much more stout and healthy man. This portayal in the Fall of Berlin would be laughable to anyone who has personally seen the real Stalin in the flesh. Even his voice is different, look at any video of Stalin's speeches, his voice is rather high pitched and nasally, somewhat pathetic sounding with a very thick Georgian accent. Gelovani's voice is much deeper, much clearing, sounding much more authoritative and fatherly.
@eldorados_lost_searcher
@eldorados_lost_searcher 5 жыл бұрын
I saw that flash of Jason Issacs as Zhukov!
@stefanradev7034
@stefanradev7034 5 жыл бұрын
No, not the worst. Just watch "Enemy at the gates", xD
@icook1723
@icook1723 5 жыл бұрын
While enemey at the gates is bad, i would say pearl harbor is worst. And this may even be worst.
@stefanradev7034
@stefanradev7034 5 жыл бұрын
@@icook1723 By pure cinematographic qualities The Fall is worse, but the fact it is 50 years older than the other two...It's true both Gates and Harbor are twisting the historical events to the point of "Lord of the rings (with tanks and planes)". However Harbor pushes up, making the good guys more virtuous than the smurfs. And Gates is insulting to the red team.
@andreirotenev
@andreirotenev 5 жыл бұрын
Мы знаем
@GeorgeSemel
@GeorgeSemel 5 жыл бұрын
@@icook1723 Gee's don't get me going on that one!
@Blunderbussy
@Blunderbussy 5 жыл бұрын
@@icook1723 OH NO! YOU MADE ME REMEMBER PEARL HARBOR. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO ME?!
@MegaSnegovichok
@MegaSnegovichok 5 жыл бұрын
Brandon, judging a 100 per cent communist propaganda movie by the standards of “realism” is a bit unfair. Like Byzantine icons were all painted according to the strict unified standard, so were these movies made. Everything you point out, is simply what the movie makers were supposed to do to emphasize a few key propaganda messages. Watch any Chinese or North Korean movies of the era: they are identical. So, talking about universal communist propaganda “cliches” using this movie would probably be more relevant...
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 5 жыл бұрын
I saw a (I believe) Chinese made film from the late 50's. The acting was on par with a hostage proof of life video. It was based during the Korean War, and managed to hit every cliche available. The Chinese and Korean socialist brothers (always heroic) proclaiming the glory of each other's leaders. The savage, mercenary invaders who refused to fight unless they were either paid more, promised first crack at the looting, or threatened by aristocrat officers. The convert who finds the true meaning of socialism, and is, of course, executed by his senior officer for trying to convince his fellow soldiers to join the people's side. It was a rolling train wreck of a film, but quite unintentionally funny.
@thatdude3938
@thatdude3938 5 жыл бұрын
@@christopherconard2831 commie' movies you say? You could put Red Dawn there as well
@suspicioususer
@suspicioususer 5 жыл бұрын
@@christopherconard2831 please i need the name of this film
@christopherconard2831
@christopherconard2831 5 жыл бұрын
@@suspicioususer Unfortunately I can't begin to remember. I saw it around 1988. It was in the UNF library.
@MPresheva
@MPresheva 4 жыл бұрын
You are right on the spot mate.
@langeweileonline4720
@langeweileonline4720 2 жыл бұрын
21:40 I just want to mention the Reichstag and the Führerbunker was at "Berlin-Königsplatz" which didn't have an airfield... SO THE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS RAN TO ANOTHER PART OF BERLIN TO SEE STALIN
@ashleyhecker4148
@ashleyhecker4148 4 жыл бұрын
Berlin citizen: you saved us Stalin: I wouldn't say saved more like under new occupation
@ArenBerberian
@ArenBerberian 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure there was a scene at the end of Downfall with Russian soldiers dancing and playing accordions.....
@Galvars
@Galvars 5 жыл бұрын
It is obligatory to have such scene in war movies with Soviets/Russians. It's like Wilhelm scream.
@derniercaesar5319
@derniercaesar5319 3 жыл бұрын
But not in that scale
@Lonovavir
@Lonovavir 2 жыл бұрын
That took place as the Germans were surrendering and stacking up their guns in front of Red Army soldiers.
@TheToad075
@TheToad075 Жыл бұрын
It's not the entire city of Berlin doing it, I'm pretty sure it's just those Russian women in the Fuhrerbunker
@sig-11signation49
@sig-11signation49 5 жыл бұрын
someone sounds jealous of Stalin
@whiterosecicero4802
@whiterosecicero4802 5 жыл бұрын
Send him to Gulag, the only emotion that on can feel is love for Stalin.
@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151
@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151 5 жыл бұрын
White Rose Cicero Honestly Stalin wasn’t any better than Hitler.
@whiterosecicero4802
@whiterosecicero4802 5 жыл бұрын
@@kryoruleroftheninthcircleo4151Truex That is true. in fact, he killed more people than Hitler. Stalin was a terrible human being. pray that there is an afterlife and he is suffering now.
@noodlesausage4233
@noodlesausage4233 4 жыл бұрын
@@AnnoNymus "off all races" And I wouldn't blame the casulties on Hitler
@PoliticallyDonutTasty
@PoliticallyDonutTasty 4 жыл бұрын
@@AnnoNymus Tell that to the Soviet Greeks, lmao, Soviets only look good compared to Hitler, now think about that one.
@DominionSorcerer
@DominionSorcerer 5 жыл бұрын
At the 15:30-15:42 mark they also seem to be waving the flag of the German Empire in the background next to the flag of the Soviet Union.
@thaxthekiller1227
@thaxthekiller1227 5 жыл бұрын
It could just be a miscolored yugoslavian flag
@guardiadecivil6777
@guardiadecivil6777 5 жыл бұрын
i mean in a way it kinda makes sense since they are raising the flag that created the ussr
@TH66-95vw
@TH66-95vw 5 жыл бұрын
I would say it's a flag of the NKFD (Nationalkomitee Freies Deutschland). Even at the last planned postage stamps of the Greater German Reich the NKFD was portrayed
@erichayes8445
@erichayes8445 5 жыл бұрын
Americans when the trees start speaking Vietnamese, Russians when the snow starts speaking Finnish, Australians when the bush starts speaking Emu, and Berliners when the Reichstag starts speaking Accordion.
@KurdishTigers
@KurdishTigers 5 жыл бұрын
Oh shit I just realized his point about German women dancing on the street with the Soviets and imagine how horrified I would be if I was a woman during that time and going into a theater and seeing that...... I wasn’t dancing I was playing the accordion!
@andrewphillips8341
@andrewphillips8341 5 жыл бұрын
Soviet Motto: "The War has ended, Berlin has fallen. LET THE RAPING BEGIN!"
@ShinigamiInuyasha777
@ShinigamiInuyasha777 5 жыл бұрын
The Easter Front can be seen as two dogs fighting to who rides who
@intelligentgrawlix794
@intelligentgrawlix794 5 жыл бұрын
It began before the war ended and began further east, the Soviets raped their way into Berlin everywhere they went to get into Berlin they did this.
@mandaloretheproud6622
@mandaloretheproud6622 5 жыл бұрын
@Glebinator As far as I can tell, people these days are more aware of the atrocities committed by both sides and just because one side committed more does not justify the crimes committed in revenge.
@thatdude3938
@thatdude3938 5 жыл бұрын
Germany civilian losses are around 3 millions at all time and all sides, of them half-million died because of air-raids and half-million by the hands of Nazis themselves. Compared to 20 millions dead in Soviet Union and 6 millions in Poland that doesn't play towards such bullshit
@mandaloretheproud6622
@mandaloretheproud6622 5 жыл бұрын
@Glebinator It annoys me when former Nazi generals' biased memoirs are used to make the Nazis look better.
@fluffythecat8280
@fluffythecat8280 5 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this with my grandfather back when I was about 6 years old. Now he was old enough to remember Stalin and even saw him from afar live once, he had his opinion which was rather complex, since his family owned a lot to Stalins reign, but my grandmothers father was actually arrested and shot in 37. I thought the film looked good, and he explained me what could be summed up by - "Yeah. No. They f*d up big time". Releasing this production at the time, when there were literally millions of veterans of the Great Patriotic War still around was an extreme disrespect and imho a completely failed effort, as far as propaganda goes.
@semagicus693
@semagicus693 5 жыл бұрын
Errrm, you know - actually, the soviet soldiers DID have accordions with them at the fronlines. They also had guitars and other instruments of similar size, but accordeons were the most popular ones. Of course, they wouldn't be able to get them out of, presumably, their character inventories immediately, but there definitely would be accordeons playing and people dancing to them after the actual fighting was over.
@Martina-Kosicanka
@Martina-Kosicanka 5 жыл бұрын
Russian have accordions always close. Even if they do clown car schtick- 17 people, one guitar and one accordion in Volga (sedan) car. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6qap5KLYtifhMU
@simontemplate
@simontemplate 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I was also thinking that this dancing is entirely in keeping with my understanding of the celebrations at the end of the war in Berlin. I am under the impression that the Russians are people who love music and like to dance and that this was a normal way of celebrating such a momentous day. After what I considered this colossal error on the part of the presenter I rather lost interest in the video i’m afraid.
@historyarmyproductions
@historyarmyproductions 4 жыл бұрын
I am reading the book "A woman in Berlin." I highly recommend it. Anyway, In it, A woman describers her experiences in the last days of the Reich, in Berlin. In the beggining, She is forced into the basement of her shattered apartment block, Little food, Little water. She described how the Russians, the "Ivans." As they were called, Raped. She herself was raped several times. Teenagers were raped, Older women even. She described how a Drunk Russian stumbled into the basment, and in Pointing to an injured girl, screamed in broken German, in raged, said one thing. "How many year!?" Theyre are several accounts of terrible, terrible things in that book.
@artemgushin5228
@artemgushin5228 3 жыл бұрын
I googled it. She was a journalist who was first with the Communists and then went on to work for Goebbels, the chief of Nazi propaganda. She was also a member of the Nazi party. Must be a very accurate book, I have no doubt.
@SonofIiberty
@SonofIiberty 2 жыл бұрын
@@artemgushin5228 begone tankie
@Ignaciofinger
@Ignaciofinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@SonofIiberty What a response, you really got 'em there, destroyed with facts and logic
@SonofIiberty
@SonofIiberty 2 жыл бұрын
@@Ignaciofinger thank you
@Ignaciofinger
@Ignaciofinger 2 жыл бұрын
@@SonofIiberty Yes, I really liked how you didn’t offer a counter to any of their points and resorted to name calling
@marcusaurelius3611
@marcusaurelius3611 4 жыл бұрын
In Russia we have the word "победобесие" (pobedobesie) which is best for this movie and the situation with the victory day in Russia and this word well describes russian people who says that they "can repeat the 1941-1945" (not all russians аre like that )
@britishmilitaria2947
@britishmilitaria2947 5 жыл бұрын
He kind of reminds me of my old head teacher he goes from calm calm explosion calm calm 🤣😂
@cracno1125
@cracno1125 5 жыл бұрын
26:59 Isn't that Zhukov right there? The subtitles read: "How do you do, comrade Chuikov." Is it Zhukov ,but the subtitles mispelled his name or is it some other general called Chuikov? Edit: Just quickly googled it. There was a general called Chuikov. Sorry.
@maximilienrobespierre7927
@maximilienrobespierre7927 5 жыл бұрын
Oi, Chuikov was almost as big (in terms of importance) as Zhukov.
@cracno1125
@cracno1125 5 жыл бұрын
@@maximilienrobespierre7927 I Don't really know my generals. I just knew who Zhukov was because of "The death of Stalin".
@dac5782
@dac5782 5 жыл бұрын
I think its supposed to be Vasily Chuikov. I've not known about the guy until a HOI4 game, so I'm generally sure he's somewhat of an obscure person. The name similarity probably doesn't help either.
@maximilienrobespierre7927
@maximilienrobespierre7927 5 жыл бұрын
@@dac5782 He was one of the generals in charge of the defense of Stalingrad. There was an especially notable moment where he put his headquarters amid what both Soviets and Germans assumed to be empty oil storage silos. Needless to say, for some time he was cut off by all the fire. As far as I remember, he was also the one who negotiated Germany's surrender with Hans Krebs (that scene is also present in the movie Downfall).
@dac5782
@dac5782 5 жыл бұрын
@@maximilienrobespierre7927 Ah, thank you for the explanation there. My strong suit isn't exactly the particulars of the Second World War, as it's much more reserved for The Great War, so it really does help.
@simonh6371
@simonh6371 5 жыл бұрын
Imho the worst WW2 movie is the 1965 ''The Battle of the Bulge''. I had watched this as a pre-teen boy in the UK on TV, no doubt on a Sunday afternoon, as oldish war movies were then the staple Sunday afternoon TV viewing i.e. in the late 70s /early 80s. But after having grown up and learned that this was about the winter 1944 breakthrough of the German Army in the Ardennes, when it came on TV again a few years ago I had to turn over after just a minute or two...why? Because it was clearly filmed in Mediterranean scrubland, no trace of forests, and it didn't look like winter. In fact it was filmed just outside Madrid. I don't understand why it wasn't filmed in a more similar region of the USA, Maine or somewhere or even Virginia at a guess. The only reason I can think of for filming it in Franco's Spain was to save costs, I believe a lot of Spaghetti Westerns were filmed in the area around the same time. So arguably the worst, as I wouldn't expect a Soviet movie from the 50's to be up to much.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shoddy film. Pretty insulting to the soldiers who fought in the Battle.
@abandonedchannel281
@abandonedchannel281 5 жыл бұрын
The plane Stalin lands on is a IL-12, which didn’t exist in 1945
@Ojarnside
@Ojarnside 5 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this as I'm finalizing my master thesis on the varying depictions of The Second World War in cinema, and I must say that I'm really impressed with your analysis of the film and the way you approach the themes portrayed in the film. Thank you for this video.
@allninelivez7631
@allninelivez7631 5 жыл бұрын
"We must preserve peace for the sake of the future..." bruh, you literally tried to provoke the Allies by blockading West Berlin.
@360Nomad
@360Nomad 5 жыл бұрын
Petition for Brandon F. to livestream the entirety of 1959 adaptation of the Diary of Anne Frank so we can watch his little heart be broken by both the laughable inaccuracies and the actual tragedy in real time. Also Confederate pregnant Anne Frank (can't forget that)
@klassehkhornate9636
@klassehkhornate9636 5 жыл бұрын
*WAT THE FUCK*
@abandonedchannel281
@abandonedchannel281 5 жыл бұрын
Confederate Anne Frank? Oh god
@ksztyrix
@ksztyrix 5 жыл бұрын
Whole story is made up fiction
@360Nomad
@360Nomad 5 жыл бұрын
You've never heard of pregnant Anne Frank memes Kennan?
@madcourier6217
@madcourier6217 5 жыл бұрын
@@360Nomad Neither have I. Though to be fair I read her uncensored diary once in Middle School and when she started talking about her menstruation I distanced myself from anything involved with her...
@ChewyOnLock
@ChewyOnLock 5 жыл бұрын
the way you talk about your glasses reminds me of my grandmother. it's very quaint.
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 5 жыл бұрын
Haha, I thought the same thing.
@UGTLDG
@UGTLDG 5 жыл бұрын
40:34 He's Greek! Saying "long-live comrade Stalin, the friend of the Greek People"!! Side-note: tentions between the pro-communist and anti-cumunist factions in Greece rose soon after the end of WWII, culminating in a bloody civil war, actually the first "warm" war of the cold war era. By 1950, the pro-comunists were soundly defeated, and many of the survivors were imprisoned or self-exiled at the time the film aired. Stalin didn't do mutch to prevent that war; nor to stop it; nor even to support his "greek comrades". Several war-councils were held with greek rebels and neighbouring (comunist) countries delegations. At one of the last ones, he addressed all present with a single word: "svarnut" (wrap it up, forget it)! It seems that, to him the whole story was a convenient political and ideological counter-game. So mutch about peace and friendship.
@Mentol_
@Mentol_ 5 жыл бұрын
Greece entered the zone of influence of Britain, so the USSR did not intervene.
@UGTLDG
@UGTLDG 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mentol_ You're right! Kind of: Greece being part of Britain ZOI meant that the war was pointless to start with. But Stalin chose to inspire it none the less.
@rex02244
@rex02244 5 жыл бұрын
**That moment when you realize stalin didnt fly for fear of sabatoge**
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions 3 жыл бұрын
Ironic! Don't use this film for historical research, unless you are writing about the lies behind Soviet propaganda!
@mikhailstepounin9448
@mikhailstepounin9448 5 жыл бұрын
It is not a historic movie at all. It is an OPERA by Shostakovich. Therefore there are choreography, decorations, singing, dancing and symbolism. Only one objection. When Stalin descends from Heaven. Initially he flies on 4 motor aircraft, but lands on 2 motor aircraft.
@tomfu6210
@tomfu6210 5 жыл бұрын
And he took of with no motors at all. Any problem citizen Stepounin?!
@mikhailstepounin9448
@mikhailstepounin9448 5 жыл бұрын
@@tomfu6210 Comrad Stalin can fly without motors !
@tomfu6210
@tomfu6210 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikhailstepounin9448 We are happy to hear it. Sign the papers!
@hanswurst-re7df
@hanswurst-re7df 5 жыл бұрын
Why are you spending 4/5ths of this Video doing a CinemaSins review of a soviet propaganda moive from 1950? you clearly have at least some understanding of how socialist realism worked and that (despite the name) this movie never even attempted to portray the war realistically, it is a pointless exercise to go on about the historical inaccuracies in this movie and nitpicking details, when the only thing this movie is reflective of is late-stalininst state art.
@alanpennie8013
@alanpennie8013 3 жыл бұрын
All cinema distorts reality for dramatic or ideological reasons and it's quite illuminatiing to see an extreme example of this tendency. I thought the review was quite a good balance between clowning and more sombre reflection.
@VexingWeeb
@VexingWeeb 2 жыл бұрын
The cherry on top would be if Stalin parachuted into Berlin LMAO
@helwithelwit9397
@helwithelwit9397 3 жыл бұрын
This is something that people from the west will never understand, I do not blame you for that but I hope that you will be able to imagine what I will say here. Making fun of this is like making fun of a disabled veteran who have lost several limbs and who is trying to dance in a very ridiculous and funny way. The crowd of people, here in the comments, is looking at this poor guy dancing and probably singing funny things or I don't know. You are all laughing. Some people are just hurt by all this. This film is not a film of people in sorrow. This film is about people that are broken. They feel joy, when they should not. They lost everything for this victory. The joy that you see here, I honestly wish that you and your families will never feel it. It is a bad joy. Of course all this is not real or historically accurate, or I don't know what you expected from this. It is very theatrical like all soviet films of this times. Only the joy is real.
@a.morphous66
@a.morphous66 4 жыл бұрын
"He is always the thing our eyes are drawn to. A god among men. What a terrible god." Good lord, that's an amazing line.
@Wilhelm-Von-Hohenzollern
@Wilhelm-Von-Hohenzollern 2 жыл бұрын
The most painful part of this is to think that many of not most of the props, specifically German, are most likely originals. Of course at the time they were worthless and hated, but now to see them thrown around and tossed around just hurts to see, especially as a militaria collector.
@derhistorien5295
@derhistorien5295 Жыл бұрын
They probably were also still plentiful after the war at least those that didn’t go to the scrap heap.
@awildtannerwasfound5045
@awildtannerwasfound5045 5 жыл бұрын
Why do most of the Germans have officer caps
@adrianmalang2433
@adrianmalang2433 4 жыл бұрын
When Mr. Brandon faces the camera and became silent for a few seconds you know it's getting serious
@lore9446
@lore9446 Жыл бұрын
Excellent critique!!! Loved it!!! A very good film regarding what German women lived in Berlin is “A woman in Berlin”, written by a female journalist who describes the horror and perils they have to endure at the hands of the Russian army.
@jdm4198
@jdm4198 Жыл бұрын
Source: Arial 12 and Joseph Goebbels's propaganda
@Pancasilaist8752
@Pancasilaist8752 Жыл бұрын
​@@jdm4198Joseph Goebbels was already dead at the time the book was written.
@RiflemanMoore
@RiflemanMoore 4 жыл бұрын
It's a little known fact that factories manufacturing accordions were some of the first industries to be safely evacuated beyond the Urals in August of 1941 to ensure supplies would not be interrupted.
@clazy8
@clazy8 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the last scene of Downfall, when Hitler's secretary walks, terrified, through a group of drunken Russian soldiers dancing to an accordion, is an allusion to this absurd scene.
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain 11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure the accordion is just a popular instrument in Russia
@wilsonj4705
@wilsonj4705 5 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to digitally insert the real Stalin carrying a sword showing up saying "There can be only one"
@bcluett1697
@bcluett1697 4 жыл бұрын
Rather ironic that Stalin recreates the fly-in after the city is semi-secured scene that sounds an awful lot like Hitlers victory tour of Paris. Not quite the same but probably on the propagandists minds at the time.
@Strike_Raid
@Strike_Raid 4 жыл бұрын
You obviously have not seen the 1965 film 'Battle of the Bulge'. I doubt it could be worse than that.
@edlawn5481
@edlawn5481 10 ай бұрын
You're not kidding.
@ACE1918
@ACE1918 5 жыл бұрын
Are we sure that the actor that plays Stalin isn't actually Stalin himself? It would be a huge ego trip for a person to be able to star as them-self in a film and Stalin was a movie buff.
@TotalRookie_LV
@TotalRookie_LV 5 жыл бұрын
5:00 "Your troops have taken a control point!" ...flashbacks or the Warhammer 40'000 "Dawn of War" intro movie
@jamesharding3459
@jamesharding3459 3 жыл бұрын
The accordions...my god, is there anything more terrifying than the accordions?
@rsacchi100
@rsacchi100 2 жыл бұрын
In the movie makers' defense: The ending could have been stylistic, not meant to be taken literally. "Dunkirk" had 3 timelines running simultaneously. "We Were Soldiers" showed telegrams getting sent to widows in real time. Lt. Col. Hal Moore is depicted as coming home in a cab and his wife and children act as if they are unaware he was alive, well, and coming home. As for the rest of it, you're absolutely right. It seems the movie's theme is there could be world peace if everyone would trust and obey the great leader Stalin. As for war veterans, and everyone else suffering under Stalin, they would probably dare not set their children right for fear their children might repeat what they're told to the wrong person.
@yohannbiimu
@yohannbiimu 4 жыл бұрын
The Soviet cinema was actually decades behind most of the rest of the world in terms of visual and audio technology, and because media was supposed to indoctrinate, everything else suffered from scripts and storytelling. Sergi Eisenstein notwithstanding, Russian films from this period until after Stalin's demise are difficult to watch and listen to.
@fireflyz8943
@fireflyz8943 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair if Stalin started talking you would defiantly shut up immediately.
@RJLbwb
@RJLbwb 5 жыл бұрын
"The accordions mean it's over" and a mem is born
@dmitriyilin612
@dmitriyilin612 4 жыл бұрын
They are wearing medals that have not been issued yet.
@FairyNya
@FairyNya 2 жыл бұрын
this video is probably banned in russia
@user-gx4pj5qk9k
@user-gx4pj5qk9k 5 ай бұрын
Не
@rickden8362
@rickden8362 4 жыл бұрын
Brandon: This would be a lot better/funnier if you'd do this in ''Mystery Science Theater 3000'' style. Perhaps with Hitler and Churchill puppets.
@hank964
@hank964 5 жыл бұрын
This celebration reminds me the Ewok celebration in the end of the Return of the Jedi
@mitchellgeorge6031
@mitchellgeorge6031 4 жыл бұрын
You know it’s bad when the Soviet government under Khrushchev denounces it 6 years later.
@edlawn5481
@edlawn5481 10 ай бұрын
Liberation was much better.
@eugenius6519
@eugenius6519 4 жыл бұрын
I find your russian re-enactment kit to be lacking in the standard issue ww2 accordeon department, you farb!
@MatzeMania90
@MatzeMania90 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed also some flags of the German Empire in the civilian crowd.
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions 3 жыл бұрын
If you were talking about the pre-1918 Empire, I think I saw them too! Where did they come from?
@kasinokaiser1319
@kasinokaiser1319 5 жыл бұрын
A movie in my country from the 1970s features Japanese and American soldiers portrayed by local latino actors, and has them use assault rifles, kevlar vests, humvees, and computer-rendered fighter jets
@bimasakticahyoutomo8470
@bimasakticahyoutomo8470 5 жыл бұрын
Film name ?
@brainblessed5814
@brainblessed5814 3 жыл бұрын
A movie from 1970s features humvees and computer generated fighters?
@applesandgrapesfordinner4626
@applesandgrapesfordinner4626 4 ай бұрын
What kind of alternate timeline is this?
@bogdanilic7346
@bogdanilic7346 5 жыл бұрын
On the 24th of October 1944, after Belgrade had been liberated (or so it was thought), the Partisans and the soldiers of the Red Army who had liberated the city, made a pompous dance party on the city square of Terazije together with the locals, celebrating the liberation. It was then that an explosion suddenly broke the festive atmosphere. It appeared that some Wehrmacht soldiers had remained hiding in the sewers, and a bomb which they had planted went off beneath the square, killing and injuring many of the people who were in the middle of their celebration at the time. This example shows that soldiers of the Red Army did, in fact, dance and play music after having liberated a city. According to this, they should throw the Mother of All Parties after having won the entire war. I do warn that I am not entirely sure that this did take place, though. I study History and I live in Belgrade, and I have read this in a magazine, but I have never invested much time in finding a credible source. I admit that I am more of an expert on Byzantium than WWII, but if you would like me to, I could find the time to scour through libraries and archives, and ask the right people.
@Sybrakos1
@Sybrakos1 5 жыл бұрын
Ok
@brigitteking969
@brigitteking969 3 жыл бұрын
You can see the Russian soldiers dancing and drinking at the end of the film Patton, who, in the film, refuses to join in and is digusted by them.
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