What would your life be like if Axis had won WW2

[@Winterwolf-fs3wh]

"Imagine having a government who was willing to fight to the death to protect your culture, instead of actively doing everything possible to destroy it. This actually sounds like paradise to me" - KnightOwl-kn6gm Original comment was probably removed by Mr Noseberg.

[@zvallid]

Yes it has been removed but I don't understand from whom. May be the account who made that comment has been deleted

[@LuxG]

Fully agree

[@Smoug]

braindead take

[@rafalgan-ganowicz]

​@@zvallidlmao yeah because KZbin doesn't censor the majority of its users

[@Some112345678910]

Sounds great only if I were not untermensch in my own country 💀🇨🇿

[@qwertzuiop1978]

You forgot one important detail: A channel on youtube called 'Zvallid' would post a video titled 'What would happen if Allies won WW2?'.

[@edmundblackaddercoc8522]

Is it still up?😂

[@blakepollock8074]

Considering that there might not even be an internet in this timeline, probably not

[@RussellAdlerCIA]

"The World would become degenerate."

[@vicentedacosta]

Not KZbin. More likely something like DeinTube😂

[@jpmonkman]

Better ....much better still having proper morale values!

[@chethomas2217]

Its unrealistic that Finland would not regain former territories and more of Karelia. They were a German ally in our timeline and would ally with Germany in this timeline as well.

[@perttiprutkula461]

Finland has its former territories in the map

[@palious13]

Technically incorrect. They were not a German ally, they were a cobelligerent. It's a samall difference, but an important one.

[@Dinoface96]

Yep, not to mention that in the Nazi racial beliefs the finns were actually consider "on-par", and i do read somewhere mention that they were considered the brothers of the so called "nordic aryan race"

[@JackeyBoyyy]

you reallly believe the nazis wouldnt just backstab finland?

[@coala2001]

CO-BELLIGERENT, not allied. Finland even had equipment from both Germany and the US.

[@DeutscheDemokratischeRepublik]

I cannot help but feel like this would be the most realistic version of an axis victory world, unlike all those hyper-dystopian scenarios usually presented.

[@poopman4263]

true except germans pushing to urals, or the germans getting to the AA line at all in the ussr, Stalin wouldn’t have given up, and the germans wouldn’t have tigers or leopards, as they wouldn’t have met the soviet t-34 in battle yet. There would probably be a german aligned western europe , but not directly allied. Hitler would definitely dominate northern and eastern europe, but italy would probably split off from hitler and the Nazis as they did not agree with their racial ideas, and form their own block. On top of that (this is getting drawn out) Nazi germany’s economy would collapse shortly after the war, as the german economy was built entirely on war and prolonging of paying of loans. The cold war would be short lived.

[@Luke_05]

Literally this is the best one I’ve seen

[@etwasgutes3553]

What do you have against the" The germans take Europe and then Asia and Africa with Japanese to then wipe out the Americas" scenarios?

[@googlestinkt5184]

First of all there wouldnt be mass migration right now

[@TonyGModesto]

Nazi Germany likely would have collapsed within a decade. It’s entire societal model was unsustainable.

[@guharup]

No one would be sitting thinking of their pronouns for sure

[@bidenlicker]

Yes all pronouns and concepts of gender would be gone. Herr Hitler would become nonbinary along with everyone else

[@AureliusProject]

Instead they’d have some other made up enemy to be afraid of

[@Kentagumo]

Woohoo!

[@johncleet2837]

Those things would be lightpoled like my 2 gay neighbours.

[@The155thbird]

That's less because they wouldn't exist and more because they would be killed for being trans. Everyone always forgets that they were a target too.

[@PostrakCDP]

Most "what if the axis won" videos talk about germany conquering the entire world. I like how this one is more realistic, feels like something that could have really happened

[@stephenblacker1208]

Flawed in many ways

[@landofthesilverpath5823]

It was never Hitler's intention to "conquer the world." The notion is ridiculous. But what political tendency was based on world dominantion? Hmmm..let's see. Oh...communism. and they nearly did it.

[@damianoasteriti8530]

​@perseus274Prussianas would like to have a chat with you...

[@fortunatomartino8549]

Without the propaganda about an evil Germany

[@Mana-xd2tp]

​@@stephenblacker1208Still better than the dystopian takes that mostly focus on surface level shit.

[@RandomHuman1103]

"European gamers would be shooting allies" got me😂😂😂😂

[@Brick_guyy]

Me too

[@Brick_guyy]

If there would be any games

[@RandomHuman1103]

@@Brick_guyy Probably would be,but with heavy propaganda

[@vice214]

@@RandomHuman1103as are today

[@Latviešu_Amēlija]

​@@RandomHuman1103You guys act like there isnt propoganda all ober the place in movies games, tv and ads🙄🙄🙄 you just dont notice it because its clearly too normal for you now. Or because your brainwashed, or simply agree with the propoganda. Its no different

[@nicmemak]

"If the Germans won, we would all be speaking German." - Ok, now we're all speaking English.

[@piratet0aster719]

Nah you wouldn't exist - Hitlers Plan was to clear out lands for Nazi Germany upcoming population "superior race" Hitler secret project to breed only best once, This meant after fall of USSR the United States of America, Mexico, Canada was next in line ! To be used as slave power and rest of population would be killed in the concentration camps- Pretty much entire America. - On other side, Japan would done same thing to China, Australia, India. Stuff is scary.... I am glad We Won!

[@matthiasklaus4550]

Soon my friend

[@piratensender1065]

And more and more people in Europe speak Arabic..

[@rinzlr3554]

@@piratensender1065it will never trump English. It’s far easier to learn and already more wide spread

[@BIGRIG2244]

@@rinzlr3554 hes saying something (((different)))..

[@dashingdecentkhan]

Winsten Churchill would be facing war crimes in the internal court of justice.

[@Rildar]

no lol, germany fully intended to ensure britain maintained its empire had they won, and wanted the British to be a maritime power. the raj would've been preserved, thank God.

[@MrJimmy1717]

he ought to have for Gallipoli

[@HaraBoss]

He wasn't a bud guy...

[@Rildar]

@@HaraBoss yes he was he’s entirely the reason the UK is filled with poopskins now. 0 reason to have fought Germany, the British public was overwhelmingly anti-war even when Poland was invaded.

[@Orxbane]

@@HaraBoss He was a drunken Chosenite puppet who single handedly destroyed the British Empire and impoverished the UK to this day. Possibly the worst thing that ever happened to England.

[@theromanmapper]

"Call of Duty" would've been "Call of the Reich"

[@joemana-mj3ro]

i wonder if wolfenstein would been different?

[@darkshadow07186]

​@@joemana-mj3ro Wolfenstein would make the N*zis look good this time. Unlike in Canon where they made the N*zis as bad people as they are in real life.

[@Samhobenji]

@@joemana-mj3ro It would be "Westminster" with Churchill and mecha queen Elizabeth ii

[@rogerlynch5279]

@@joemana-mj3roShurly not the Ad Clips to Part 1 and 2 and CHANGEOVER DAY might had become true. as wll as the CHANGEOVER DAY Game Show KZbin: Bethesda/Wolfenstein 2/"Gameshow", put on lthe Net by spotwelders, But I had sent the " QUIZZMASTER " then as well to "RE-EDUCATION", instead of RICHTIG he wrongly used the Noun RECHT ( 0:38 in the clip )

[@joemana-mj3ro]

@@rogerlynch5279 what the fuck are you yapping about💀

[@DrJens-pn5qk]

Key sentence: "The winner of the war is always the good guy."

[@megaham1552]

Not really

[@NormalThe7th]

World war 2 is basically one of the only wars in history where the winner were objectively better than the losers in terms of morality. The American concentration camps of the Japanese and the Kolkata famine etc. weren't nearly bad enough to give the German Concentration camps and the horrid Japanese treatment of China any run for their money.

[@DonGivani]

😂bs, you can migrate to North Korea if you want to experience this crap

[@indiana-dani]

he said the quiet part out loud...

[@oliver.mayes2305]

You are really not trying to insinuate that the Nazis were “good guys”…😟

[@AmericanGtag]

It is like they say "Whoever wins the war, rewrites the history."

[@markusmeldre]

except if you actually knew anything about ww2 history, you'd realise that the allies gathered German/Nazi historians to write history books, you know, considering their accounting and detailed bureaucracy

[@frnkvat2722]

​@@markusmeldre....their accounting....oh do you mean all those in pristine condition documents that were found in National Socialist offices when all of Berlin was on fire and reduced to rubble? The accounting where they ran their mouths and said all the bold things they never once said in public? Yeah.....here SIT THERE AND WRITE OUR HISTORY YOU NAZI BADGUYS....and it better be good because no ones gonna check it out before its printed to fact check it against up to the moment verifiable history... Yes.........this is how it went down, huh? Retard.

[@AmericanGtag]

@@markusmeldre chill I was just saying a quote, and I know history.

[@poodabear-1]

​@@markusmeldrethe whole clean wehrmacht myth especially

[@demaistre2458]

​@@markusmeldreAnd forced expected them to force an allied biased perspective into that account. You think the allies would let the germans be honest? Or express how they actually saw shit? You know what they went through at the Nuremberg trials right? Torture was passed around like candy

[@worldofdoom995]

would love a second part with an extended space race, cold war destabilization attempts by all sides etc.

[@leutnantobvious4340]

us and soviet space program without german tec and scientists? it would be straight up germany first and only .

[@worldofdoom995]

Except the UK had a huge Rocket and ballistic missle program that could have beat the Ruskies to space by five years had they not been broke. Its like me saying the Germans could never get a nuclear bomb because we has so much resources to do so.@@leutnantobvious4340

[@screwstatists7324]

THANK GOD WE SAVED THE WEST FROM HITLER

[@imadeanaccounttocomment7800]

Yeah my biggest problem with this video other than his suggested way for Germany to win the War was his portrayal of this alternate Cold War. It seemed like he didn’t have a firm understanding of the Geopolitics of Indochina and Latin America that made the Cold War what it was between the USSR and USA. Since things like the Vietnam War didn’t happen the cultural impact in the US would be huge, civil rights movement might have been delayed or did not happen altogether, no hippie culture and revolution in music, certainly more than just the lack of a few Vietnam war movies. He also failed to realise that the “communist” revolutions such as the one in Cuba was nationalist in nature as opposed to really being communist so they would have just gone to a different backer like fascist germany to achieve their goals and Germany would be happy to oblige because that’s how you wage a Cold War. Also I have no idea why he thinks China would be split into two, no matter how much money you give to generalissimo cash by cheque nothing short of all out total military intervention by the US in China would have saved his ass.(pretty sure that was the opinion of General Marshal). Could also have focused on the new fascist satellite states like France, cause it seems like he forgot about Free France completely and the numerous European monarchs that would have been displaced.

[@anon_laughing_man]

There would be no "space race" as NASA was formed from captive National Socialist scientists.

[@ZapRowsdower47]

Somewhere in an alternate dimension, our history is being shown as this video is.....

[@rauljesus4821]

Just like "The Man in the High Castle"

[@57harrierstrikes]

And they are thankful they don't live in our timeline.

[@babyjdad]

An alternate dimension is like to be apart of

[@Impositivelygay]

Exactly my thoughts

[@Aegianlulz]

Imagine how hard they would be laughing when they see grown men dressed as women claiming that genders are a social construct or the state of modern London and Paris filled with millions of illegals killing and stealing left and right

[@stevenmcgrath5114]

Don't forget the most influential fashion designer of his age Hugo Boss . . . 😀

[@thomascarl8571]

One of the most realistic” what if “I’ve seen

[@BunnyFilms]

The neoclassical architecture is beautiful and i only wish it would be a more common sight nowadays

[@JanosRado-gd2od]

Can only agree

[@Shirley10.]

It would have been if we won

[@primaitalia753]

Yes. I‘m Italian. And i live the Imperium Roman and the Roman Architecture.

[@ClipsOfVTubers]

@@Shirley10. cars destroy our architecture, not freedom of speech, dumbass. Hitler was very pro-car so no, it would actually look worse than it does today

[@Cokiecoler]

@@Shirley10.take a shower for me bud🙏🙏

[@slovakiaballif24]

I can only imagine the American meltdown if Germany was so far ahead in missile tech, given how massive the panic was for the soviets who were barely ahead.

[@jmgonzales7701]

Soviet tech paled in comparrison compared to america

[@Calculuscuck]

The USA would become isolationist and simply not care in this scenario

[@wingedhussar1453]

Well nazis only want alot to concquer usa.they would have went for it.nazis were crazy and probably would start nuclear war

[@Blackmage4001]

Problem is, German leadership simply did not have the mindset to organize large-scale scientific research usefully. Nazis are remembered as organizational masterminds, but the fact is they were mostly a mob of backstabbing mini-tyrants who spent most of their time fighting each other for political power and scheming for more loot. They also lacked the key group of scientists necessary to figure out that an atomic bomb was actually feasible. Mostly because they drove them all out in the 1930s! USA/UK had over a dozen Nobel-quality people working together. Germany had Werner Heisenberg, working basically alone, and who didn't really believe it was possible anyway. They also couldn't afford the industrial resources. People will point to the rockets and jets to argue against me, but the Manhattan project was about 2 orders of magnitude greater effort. Consider that the gaseous diffusion plant at Oak Ridge built in 1944 was the largest building in the world and it didn't significantly add to the bomb effort! The Y-12 plant that did most of the uranium separation was filled with enormous magnets, whose construction would have required so much copper for wire that it would have impacted the production of artillery shells... so instead they melted down the entire US silver reserve and turned it into magnet wire!!! The most realistic atomic weapons program for Germany would probably have been a heavy water reactor producing radiological weapons. But losing the heavy water plant in Norway wasn't actually much of a setback. (a) the "big shipment" that was sabotaged had something like 1/10th the D2O needed to start up a reactor. (b) that plant wasn't anywhere near the level of industrial cost of the Oak Ridge plants. Germany could have built a replacement somewhere more secure. They just didn't see the point given that it was just one of a dozen pie-in-the-sky projects being half-heartedly funded by various competing bureaucracies. Not to mention their lack of access to high-quality uranium ore. The only good source was Shinkolobwe in the Belgian Congo, and the Belgians managed to transfer all the processed ore to the USA in 1940.

[@missk1697]

🤣@@jmgonzales7701

[@jeffreyburney6161]

I’m sure everybody would know what bathroom they’re supposed to use. There would be no confusion on that part.

[@roccosfondo8748]

While it is true that Germany have planned an invasion of Spain, it is likely that an Axis victory in the Mediterranean could persuade Spain to join without any fight.

[@zvallid]

an invasion is more persuasive

[@roccosfondo8748]

@@zvallid you forget that Spain had not only an ideological reason to join the Axis but also a practical one: Gibraltar. Not to mention a big slice of that cake called Africa

[@CapCody]

@@zvallid Invading Spain would be a waste of resources, and Spain would probably willingly join

[@Grummel1971]

As far as i remember spain offered to join germany but that was politely refused since a friendly neutral spain was regarded as more valuabel then having to support the badly equipped spanish army to defend their coastline, whitch would take additional troops out of the fight against the russians and western allies.

[@mrblack888]

@@zvallid You don't invade allies unless you want to turn your other allies against you. Franco was as anti-communist as Hitler, he was a useful and faithful ally.

[@JavierCR25]

Quite an interesting take. I find it very realistic, not the doomsday dystopian scenario usually portrayed.

[@gregorgerzson1767]

Yeah, I also love how objective it was. (I only argue with the football part. Hilter and Göbbels hated football, and cant stop flame the national team how bad they are, so in the end they just didnt care anymore.

[@icosthop9998]

Agree

[@ASLUHLUHC3]

It's very optimistic to think they'd suddenly stop gassing Jews, and wouldn't genocide Slavs

[@BelfastBiker]

i mean, unless you're one of those the regime wants to kill. Yeah.

[@larryhats4320]

TFW you realize the doomsday dystopian scenario is the one running live right now, based on what happened.

[@abbantologiabbavoyage]

The important thing is that ABBA would still exist in this alternative axies's world, no one less Frida is replaced.

[@dutchroyalnavy1]

hell yeah

[@JK4ManC]

True

[@docbrosk]

And she might be one of the backups.

[@tomw6271]

The "bankers" would definetely not have me in debt slavery.

[@abrahamgn3614]

Yeah, it's definitely the bankers fault. Not your own

[@TomSeliman99]

​@@abrahamgn3614boot licker

[@spartanspearFORWARD]

@@abrahamgn3614 BOTH. The drug dealer and the drug user share responsibility with more of it falling on the drug pusher. Without usury the entire economy would be healthier so his point is accurate.

[@PMMcIntyre]

@@abrahamgn3614 Central banking usury loans our own currency at an interest rate, so we are automatically in perpetual debt, which inflates the currency and prices rise accordingly. As things get more expensive, we are forced to take out lines of credit just to afford basic things like food, rent, vehicle repairs and so on. It gets even worse when we are forced to take out insurance policies that we never see a return on if something happens. Then we get taxed on our income, taxed on purchases and taxed again on what's left over. This was inflicted on us by a State that will forever be in debt to the parasitic bankers who inflicted this on us.

[@jamesvoller167]

The Srate Bank would have you in debt instead

[@Jardelxxxx]

This alternative story is more real than the alternative world of the book The Man in the High Castle.

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

Truth! That mean that idea is not the best in the world about alternative ww2 war and post war alternative history. The Man in the High Castle is just a weak american alternative history story.

[@dntdnt9999]

To be fair there was far less in-depth knowledge regarding the Nazis and related topics in 1962 than now.

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

@@dntdnt9999I can agree with you!

[@careyfreeman5056]

Most instructive thing about that was how they would eventually eat their own. And I don't see that changing in this scenario. Just look at the leadership. Goering is the most competent and he's a pill head. Then you have the chicken farmer and the "ad guy".

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

@@careyfreeman5056So, what you want to say to me? Who would be after Hitler death a leader of the Third Reich, in 1962, for example?

[@kelvinicio]

This video is incredible. The scenario depicted is so realistic that I could see in my mind clear images of all that happening as if it was a parallel universe. The german hippie movement was definetely going to happen. You should expand this scenario further in time.

[@topcatandgang]

germany didn't have aircraft carriers, they wouldn't have a chance. the oceans of the planet all have sunken submarins that have the designation U on them.

[@Luke_05]

This is the best “what would have happened if the Axis powers won” video I’ve seen and I’m thankful to you for making it

[@BushcraftingBogan]

"It is illegal to criticise the government" Oh. So nothing has changed.

[@johncleet2837]

We'll, there's a lot more kiddie porn, under current rule.

[@The155thbird]

I mean, you can legally critocize the government. However, everyone can think you're wrong.

[@gothpotato]

You can definitely criticise the government in most democratic countries

[@emperorkeemy1458]

And what country that is not a dictatorship will have you arrested or killed for criticising the goverment?

[@Ozymandias1]

@@The155thbird In Germany a rightwing magazine was shut down by order of a leftist minister without the intervention of a court and their premises were raided at night. The minister said she just wanted to shut them up and don't give them a chance to continue publishing in another way. They are not even pretending to follow the rule of law anymore.

[@ScarletRebel96]

Your alternative history is on another level dude , great job! 😊

[@Juntasification]

Well its pretty much how its descriped in the book "Fatherland".

[@Azide.01]

This is one of the more, if not most, realistic Axis-Victory scenarios. It isn't too far fetched and the details from Women's rights to music. Speaking of, Music related sub-cultures would probably boom in countries like Germany, Sweden, the UK, Ireland etcetera. While they would most likely be punished and condemned heavily, Sub-Cultures, fashion and genres like Punk would probably either be much more popular and larger than they were IOT or non-existent because of the presumed notion that things like anti authoritarianism, Femenism, Progressivism, Socialism and all related/similar ideological standpoints would be heavily censored and kept out of the minds of the people. With such an Authoritarian regime all throughout Europe, it's not hard to imagine that nothing but Nazism and other related ideologies and subjects are the only ones taught in schools and from a young age, with other ideas and standpoints being prohibited from entering the Regime, though there is always someone who comes up with these ideas in the end, so it's not entirely implausible to say rebellious Sub-cultures and genres would exist, so much more than than our timeline.

[@zvallid]

good analisys!

[@choossuck7653]

Far far far from reality

[@onpointoriginal]

@choossuck7653 If you want reality, it's right there in the history books!

[@choossuck7653]

@@onpointoriginal the history books that were either written by or proofread in Israel. Really really rich.

[@onpointoriginal]

@choossuck7653 Wow, an actual anti Sem*te. Now I get your user handle, I just thought you couldn't spell. It's confusing following your trail of thoughts across your 2 comments, but with all the big thoughts swirling around in your little head, I'm sure that must be your daily condition

[@ziomudru]

I have never heard a more realistic alternate WW2 history

[@manacola]

How can we say accurate when referring to hypothetical sinerios? Why do the good guys always win? They don't. There are no good guys. The winner just gets to call themselves that.

[@ziomudru]

@@manacola amen

[@nnnnnn3647]

Probably yes. The author only forgot to mention that entire nations, for example Poles, would be 100% murdered.

[@miketackabery7521]

I have never heard a more unrealistic version of an alternate WW2. So many alternatives just to get to the starting point (that the axis won). Ridiculous.

[@tsdobbi]

His scenarios for post war may seem more realistic, but his alt history for how they won is pure fantasy. He basically pretends American lend lease was never a thing. Which was largely the reason WHY Hitler declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor. The Russians seemed all but defeated. The Americans would be wrapped up in a war with Japan and they would now be free to attack US shipping of war materials to Britain and Russia. He literally says in the video "Germany doesn't declare war on the US because thats absurd". It was not an absurd thing to do strategically in the moment. Its only absurd in hindsight, because we know the Russians turned it around before an American soldier ever even engaged a German and the US managed to go from a 3rd rate military power to a Superpower capable of largely fighting the Pacific war on it's own while still field almost 2 million troops in Europe by the end of the war.

[@uberacx]

History is written by victors. For sure. Very interesting video. Love to see more.

[@matthewcragg3607]

One part I found unrealistic is both the use of multiple atomic bombs on Japan plus an invasion of the mainland. If two atomic bombs did the job of forcing a Japanese surrender in actual history it's unlikely 3.5 times as many atomic bombs would fail to accomplish this in the alternate history. However, overall, I really found this intriguing and well done.

[@phillipswanson4055]

Actually that made sense. One of the reasons for the Japanese surrender was the Soviet invasion of Manchuria and Sakhalin island. That was cited by Hirohito himself in the surrender announcement and that didn’t happen in this timeline.

[@phillipswanson4055]

Also it is likely if he did still want to surrender the august 14 coup could have had more support and succeeded. Interestingly, that plan had some parallels to operation Valkyrie but on a smaller scale

[@zvallid]

@@phillipswanson4055 exsct, the real reason was the soviet invasion of manchuria that destroyed almost all japan had in china in two weeks

[@Andre-by4su]

@@zvallid it`s not really accurate to say that it was the "real reason". It is likely that it played a role, since the Soviet Union played kind of an independent mediator role between Japan and the US before, but to say that the real reason Japan surrendered was the Soviet Union is like saying that the real reason Germany lost WW2 was Italy.

[@Ironpancakemoose]

Bro, Japan was borderline starving, their navy was obliterated, their airforce was castrated, merchant marine was obliterated, fuel was rationed like printer ink, and the Japanese experimented with eating bamboo as a food replacement. The japanese were incapable of offensive actions.@@phillipswanson4055

[@rpower1401]

Seems logically consistent with known behaviors. Well done.

[@drakegod84]

About German being the primary language learnt in Europe. For this to happen Germany would've had to have a monopoly over the entertainment industry. This is the reason in my understanding why English is spoken frequently today the world over. Not only because it's a trade language, and because of colonialism, but in large because of the entertainment industry.

[@zvallid]

interesting, mau be you are right however in the east europe they all speak russian being under soviet influence for decades

[@ncrranger2281]

That would be the case for sure, they would be the dominant one 100%

[@drakegod84]

@@zvallid Seriously? The most common language in the soviet block is Russian? I almost find it hard to believe since the Russians were hated so much. I would assume they too speak English as a second language. I mean you're older than me and are from Italy, so you have more experience, but I would assume English.

[@pvp216]

@@drakegod84older folks speak native language + russian since it was mandatory in school and english wasnt

[@mattia8327]

German is not a singable language though. I think Italian would rise in popularity as Italian music becomes more commonly listened to.

[@StarterOffical-Jousha-lf6ig]

"This is not world War II this became like 135th European" Hit me so hard Edit: Omg 1k.This is my most famous comment

[@High-productionoffical]

No comments this comment with 120 likes? I gonna change that

[@Retroist2024]

Wwi is also European war

[@ekarn69]

@@High-productionoffical i disliked ur comment what are you gonna do ab it

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

WW2 can be even USA never intervene in Europa against Germany and Italy.

[@notsosilentmajority1]

Exactly!!!!! That was great. 😅😂🤣

[@YOUR140RAVES]

Alot better than it is now

[@josephbingham1255]

Very good presentation. 10:39 "Even those who score in the low ranges." Showing a couch potato watching t.v. and eating popcorn. Clever 🙂

[@PPDN_Seis]

7:52 Adolf be like: Where the fuck I am?

[@snn6262]

joe pesci's " what the fuck is this piece of shit" comes to my mind.

[@burningtank160]

"Is this Hungary? Where the fuck did Goebbels take me?"

[@oliveryt7168]

Reminds me of Biden on stage..

[@Martin-zj4bp]

Hahahahahahahaha

[@robertbeier5521]

@@snn6262 No definitely john travolta confused meme kzbin.info/www/bejne/iKKth5Rmm9FjZ9k haha!

[@sigmaentrepreneur5018]

the most realistic axis victory timeline I have ever seen good job man

[@zvallid]

thank you!

[@ussindianapolis487]

and still completely impossible lmao. this just shows how much the axis were screwed in ww2

[@taylorlibby7642]

You forget that in this timeline Elvis's twin brother Aaron would have lived, so it would have been the Presley Brothers.

[@Prfdt3]

What if there had been a brother named Enos?

[@russellking9762]

with an oom pa pa beat..hmm...Elvis would have just been a busker on a street corner

[@originalsusser]

A well-done narrative that left few holes. Normally, these types of constructs are, at best fanciful, at worst ridiculous, but yours had many believable elements. I thoroughly enjoyed your take! My main criticism is that the notion of any European country, except Germany, having nukes is unlikely... especially France, who I imagine would continue to be a vassal state with little presence on the world stage

[@reborninflames2188]

It was a great idea to include the expanded Mediterranean/ North African campaign.

[@sammy-wi8pi]

Yes, because the narrator inserted real events alongside hypothetical ones and made it seem VERY REAL ❤❤❤❤.....good job .

[@Marvin-dg8vj]

​@@reborninflames2188a Mediterranean campaign instead of an attack on the USSR would have been even more believable. There were German voices in favour of this. It would have defeated the British in North Africa , closed the Suez Canal , strengthened Italy and allowed Axis control of oil in Iraq and Iran. Germany and the USSR have divided Europe between them both with nuclear weapons .The US and UK plus other surviving areas of the British empire would be a separate block also with nukes.

[@The_House_Velaryon]

LOL "few"? The fate of Blacks and Africans, more Jews that tried to escape to Palestine, various people deemed insufficiently human by the fascists. Come on. You just pretend the people never existed and you can pretend the holes aren't gaping wide.

[@seanmatto2258]

They Had Hans Kammler and Mario Zippermayr’s coal dust bomb.

[@duosythe]

“something like the 135th european war” lol

[@TheCrab78]

Underrated humor for sure

[@JackSardonic]

Very good. The part about the east European settler hippies was interesting; all very realistic.

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

Truth! I was reading something about that! Very realistic story about that!

[@maximusdecimusmeridious3784]

Thanks for putting in the effort to make these

[@na_trium_]

Haha, Switzerland is like "Where is everybody ?"

[@DefrostedChicken]

The Axis had plans to invade Switzerland, which may have been enacted here. It would be divided between Germany, Italy, and France based on the German, Italian, and French-speaking cantons.

[@IDK_imnotKev]

​@@DefrostedChickenYes they had it. But they didnt want to "invade their aryan brothers" and waste military equipment. Also they were kinda allies un ww2 lol

[@DefrostedChicken]

@@IDK_imnotKev For its neutrality, the Nazis despised the Swiss, so I highly doubt that. Also, Swiss aircraft intercepted both Allied and Axis aircraft in Swiss airspace. As a matter of fact, the Swiss Air Force had a 12-3 K/D, if memory serves, during the German invasion of France, and throughout the war, until the Germans were pushed back from the border, the Swiss and German armies fought along the Swiss-German border.

[@Parappa99]

History tells us that is was never a good idea to invade Switzerland, also due to its terrain.

[@hank780]

Thank you for the upload Zvallid. I hope you are doing okay.

[@JOECURR1488]

This was his masterpiece.😮

[@hank780]

@@JOECURR1488 agreed

[@matthewclifford2048]

Lots of work went into that, Well done

[@luc-alaindehaes3512]

Thank you Zvallid for this realistic professional presentation I think it would not be the worsted scenario I think mankind would be better off . Not that I approve all of it

[@breadman3954]

Abba not existing is possibly the worst alternative history consequence ever convieved

[@glenmorgan4597]

More like Best

[@jonde3]

​@@glenmorgan4597???

[@johncleet2837]

@@glenmorgan4597 You're getting crusaded.

[@PrinceAlhorian]

Please! Disco was a sin to culture and history!

[@tk-6967]

Britain wouldn't have fought till 1944 in this alternate reality. Britain never wanted to fight the war in the first place, I reckon we would have thrown out Churchill rather than face the consequences. Also, Hitler liked the British Empire, it would do him no good to disband it.

[@andrewhale337]

… and possibly the Fascists in Britain would have gained control… not to mention the very popular Nazi party in America, and the support of fascists there by nationalist Christian radicals( Father Coughlin comes to mind with his millions of followers on his popular radio show!) with already over 30 congressmen with contact to top NSDAP officials!! … If the US supported Germany, as so many wanted to, the question arises why Japan would attack the US?? they would have probably finished off China and the rest of Indochina. Many of today’s GOP would feel very cozy in this „Brave new World“!

[@hydraV1-c7d]

Hitler didn’t even want to invade anyway it was total bs

[@caylarabdk8389]

almost nobody wanted the war. the big nose media tricked everyone into killing each other, to later bring down abortion and pronoum ideology to finish the job

[@Kelly-pk6kr]

I really like how you show how every day life would be like not just the political tensions!

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

I agree! That is really good in that video.

[@gregcarlson6012]

A fantastic thought experiment. I especially love the cultural impacts the timeline produces 12:50

[@JB_OldVoltBike]

Thanks for the detailed plans at the start. i will use this!

[@ryanclarke2161]

No immigrant crisis in europe lol

[@Gunther_Brukenpupf]

That"s the dream... Bring a tear to my eye

[@ibrahimsialibinbrahim9850]

Because there would be no arrogant American-led military interventions.

[@Hunt_or_Die]

​@@ibrahimsialibinbrahim9850 they would have CRUSHED anyone who wasn't part of "the master race"... The countries with those people would have no population... Darkness would have spread across the land and the gears of war wouldn't have stopped until the "one true pure race" was the only thing left. Afterwards they would destroy anyone or anything that was outside the norm, like me I'm disabled.

[@Fvdh09]

My dream

[@améliehester6996]

​@@Gunther_Brukenpupf If you think there is a crisis, you're unweII. See a hospital

[@mediasinc.2396]

good video, it's definitely more believable than the scenario in Wolfenstein, although I'm not sure about that either ^^

[@andreasmartin7942]

Pizza 'Himmler' would have extra chicken. And it's inventor would dissapear in a KZ.

[@edtoomuchfun957]

Thoughts. 1st with the USA 100% focused on Japan, it seems unreasonable that the war would actually last longer. If anything the USA might have attempted to invade Kyushu in 1944 but with such heavy losses that FDR decided to postpone the invasion of the main island (Honshu) and wait for the atomic bomb and starve the Japanese into surrender with the blockade. 2nd the communist Chinese did not have the resources necessary to control such as large part of territory without the military aid of the Soviet Union which would have been significantly weaker and still at war with Germany and unable to send aid. Otherwise Great Video and I think you hit the nail square! Again great video - keep em coming!

[@zvallid]

no soviet invasion of manchuria, that is what really defeated japan

[@mjc8281]

I found the Nuclear warheads section interesting, I think you haven't really considered that one fully. Britain actually had a really advanced nuclear programme prior to the US joining the war and while Ernest Rutherford was from New Zealand he worked all his adult life in the UK. Its also worth thinking of what happened in Germany with their wonder weapons, had the UK been isolated a wonder weapon would have been given much higher priority and even if it hadn't they wouldn't have merged the research in the US to be sure. Also interesting that you didn't want to touch Lehi with a bargepole.... while suggesting Iran and Iraq would be in full revolt. Also agree with other comments about Finland, I often ponder had the war ended with an Axis victory I'm sure a great deal more significance would have been placed into Finland's wartime contribution to the axis war effort, which following the start of the Cold War has been pretty much ignored.

[@zvallid]

finland borders are not exact, it wass an error

[@mjc8281]

@@zvallid I mean more that Finland's role in the war wouldn't have been downplayed, ignored as it is in this reality

[@AndyGrouch]

Finland would be much larger in geographic area. It would encompass all of Lake Ladoga and also Murmansk.

[@onpointoriginal]

@@AndyGrouch my thoughts exactly 💯

[@leonardodegregorio]

Despite you being really far away from my political views, I can’t hesitate from saying that you’re my favourite channel

[@ArbDaNub]

what is ur view

[@JobyDoby]

where did his political views come into the video?

[@leonardodegregorio]

@@JobyDoby I’ve watched nearly all his videos and by viewing all of them I sort of got an idea

[@JobyDoby]

@@leonardodegregorio i guess all alt history videos will come across as politically biased just because the other political system has won, but thats the whole idea of it really.

[@swox3669]

@@JobyDoby He's populist conservative, and is entirely historical on the axis nations (doesn't hate them for made up reasons/emotional appeal)

[@JumlesssMapping]

"The European Gamers spend all their time shooting allies instead of axis" 😭

[@akmalvargas3402]

I can imagine, playing battle of Gibraltar campaign as a Wehrmacht soldier

[@theregnarute]

:-)

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

Yeah! That would be lovely games for me too! Petty, because they do not exist!

[@swedenisthemotherland3952]

@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mhJust play as Axis in Hell let loose.

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

@@swedenisthemotherland3952 Yeah! We really lost the war, before 78 years, but that was a good fight. But, finally, at the end our fight and will would triumph. Because we are the only hope for Europeans and white race. But, Israel, USA, Russia, China, England, France, ect., do not want that. And they want destroy your in ww2 neutral country. That winners of last global war!

[@muktidutta8459]

Thanks for mentioning India and specially Subash Chandra bose becoming prime minister of india ❤️❤️

[@Thorr-kl6jl]

The "Axis Powers" were Germany (including Austria), Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Slovakia, and Thailand. Finland was allied with the Axis, in the war against the Communist dictator Stalin. Other countries, like Denmark, were members of the anti-Communist "Anti-Comintern Pact". By the way, the English language was developed from 5th Century German (Anglo-Saxon), and is thus a Germanic language.

[@lI-tm2pn]

I mean Denmark was under axis control by that point. You can't really say "Denmark" did anything at that point. It was just Germany pulling strings.

[@Cowboys777]

So technically we still do speak a German language lol

[@memetkasupovic4321]

Croatia didn't exist as a state but Croatian Ustasha regime. English isn't Germanic language, it is Romano-Germanic language actually. Denmark was German satrapia, Germans simply walked in without any resistance...Post war Europe would lay on Germanic peoples as ruling class, Slavic speaking would be either sterilized or slave labours.

[@oliverkelly9164]

​@@Cowboys777not exactly, the 'German' language. German is specific. A 'Germanic' language just means from the same wider umbrella. Like how French, Spanish, Italian and Romanian all stem from Latin. Modern English is this mix up of Britonic, Germanic (from the Saxons), Norman-French and even elements of old-norse.

[@GeoScopee]

germanic isn't the same as german, anglos came from denmark, and english is just modern norse, so its more danish then german@@Cowboys777

[@jeffhallaran6630]

This is the greatest video of all time! Just like how I always imagined it would be.

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

Me too! So, i am not the only one about that thinking?!

[@makingastardestroyer3066]

@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh really not. Wir kommen wieder

[@JESUS3IS3LORD3]

This is a great video.I admire just how in depth he goes about how culture and Media would be altered.

[@SK-le1gm]

this was really well done 👏🏽

[@thomaspaine3394]

I love your videos, I love your Central Powers victory series. Keep up the good work

[@MirunaIordachescu]

I am amazed how accurate is the story including the map. Good job !

[@personaltreat5472]

What? How do you even know that? You been in another timeline or something?

[@NormalChannel95]

Amazing how perspective plays a huge role in this.

[@primaitalia753]

Of course it does. He said it neutrally. Meanwhile the others pretend to be neutral. But actually just spouting Allied propaganda.

[@johncleet2837]

the 3p's

[@ErickSchmitz442]

Honestly sounds great!

[@joemartins1055]

in France for example, we would not be invaded by 19 millions African-Arab-Muslims.

[@Wessel1109]

Germang should have on the war

[@AdnanSami-p6x]

First viewer from the Reich💀

[@megalodonfilms5148]

I have to say this is pretty accurate to how it would be. Though I disagree about some of the cultural aspects, especially the music and hippie culture in the United States, though that could just be my ignorance on the subject. All in all, great video.

[@TheDrcyko]

It's only a war crime if you lose

[@littlelillia]

Funny, so few people think that about Israel.

[@baronvg]

Can you imagine people in comment sections calling people they disagree with Churchill?! 😂

[@odeleon24]

If more people knew about Churchill’s life they most likely would use his name as an insult in this timeline

[@SneedFeedAndSeed]

That guy is literally Churchill.

[@ClipsOfVTubers]

“Calling people they disagree with Hitler” when you guys are *literally* glorifying Hitler. Ok bro 🤡

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

​@oxdox2356 you're about as sharp as a marble

[@dr.vikyll7466]

​@@Christoph-sd3zi then that must be a very sharp piece of rock because he is spot on. The comments are infested with hitlerites.

[@Ninjastyle124]

A far better analysis/theory than the usual "The nazis were saturday cartoon villains".

[@imperator9133]

But they literally were

[@nboy7]

⁠@@imperator9133No more evil than the woke extremists bred by leftwing America today and also Hamas and other radical inbreds.

[@cardboardcapeii4286]

@@imperator9133lmao because the winners have told you that

[@imperator9133]

@@cardboardcapeii4286 i dont think anyone has to tell me to know gassing, massacring, and exterminating people to know its wrong

[@slavic_commonwealth]

@@cardboardcapeii4286 I'm of Slavic descent. If Axis had won, I would have become a slave or not been born at all.

[@mahanyazdani2757]

One of the best history based videos I've seen in KZbin. ❤

[@LeicaM11]

KZbin would be named „DuRöhrst“😂

[@gautamsrivastava1668]

Somewhere in multiverse, this has happened and this guy is aware 😂

[@hellenicstrategist7561]

Very nice and realistic video! But i have to comment on something : in a book called "Swastika and Crown" it talks about the occupation of Greece being temporary. This means that Eastern Macedonia and Thrace would be given back to Greece. Overall the video was amazing, nothing like those dystopian videos you see

[@blacks_life_doesnot_m.....]

The most greeks are gays

[@acewickhamyoshi8330]

As the real head of the monarchy is greece , the quasi moto fake Prince Charles is still doing the theatrics of a dying dynasty , dont look behind the banana republic curtain , we all vote for a telefaxed copy of hegemony but the head of state is still friends with the rich enemy cos their people think Trump will solve all problems in one tweet

[@thegreatestoctopus9739]

Thrace was permanently annexed by Bulgaria, even if the occupation was temporarily, the annexation of territory was not

[@282sleeper]

will there be a 2nd part? Most excellently done. Always interesting to watch programs/movies about alternative timelines, like the series "Man in the high Castle" Thank you.

[@zvallid]

inb the future there will be a second part

[@3chmidt]

This is probably the most realistic post ww2 3rd Reich victory video which I've seen, and I've seen a few

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

I was saw many, but this version is very strong and realistic. Bravo for the authors!

[@keither85]

Great channel. Awesome take on alternative history. Good stuff brother.

[@RaccoonCityPoliceDept]

This is an extremely well thought out take on the war, what would be realistic, etc. I recommend moving chronologically though. There were many times you kept moving from 1960 to 1953 for example.

[@louisxix3271]

Finland would have been given back its pre-1938 land as well as more of Karelia, perhaps including the Kola peninsula. In the middle East Iraq, which had a pro-Axis revolt IOTL, would be given Syria, Lebanon and Transjordan to form United Arab Republic, which would be an Axis-aligned dictatorship. Armenia almost definitely wouldn't exist being subsumed into greater-Turkey + Azerbaijan. The Netherlands + Friesland would be annexed to the German Reich. Additionally, the USA would annex Greenland from Denmark. Nonetheless great video, quite plausible IMO.

[@romko4496]

There's good strategic reason Russia holds on Murmansk. Don't think the Nazis would be that stupid giving up on that.

[@realrandiee]

Excellent video, pretty accurate as well. Most interpretations would just make it be a life of terror and misery for everyone, but this makes a lot more sense as for example, one of what the Nazis visioned (like the complete germanisation of eastern europe and european-russia wouldn't have gone to plan completely. And not only does technology modernizes but so does culture within europe as well, rather than being stuck in a 1930s way of life.

[@orjelmort2330]

bro there is no proof that the germans wanted germanization of the east, or actually any other plan for the east

[@crazyshorts4278]

Life would be hell for jews But average for slavs and west europe would live a good life But in this timeline, middle East will be more stable under nazi Germany, as arabs would revolt against british.. So europeans would live quit the same life but with totalitarianism.

[@jmgonzales7701]

Does that mean russia will focus its effors in asia instead

[@basedchad6035]

The only reason Hitler wanted to attack the east was because of his misconception of food. In ww1 Germany starved to death and Hitler expirienced that first hand. So for Germany not to die and shrink you NEED to attack others. The east being not that populated compared to western and southern europe. However with time Hitler whould realise that Germany doesnt have a food Problem anymore and tschechia and Poland whould be the only countries annexed.

[@gumdeo]

@@basedchad6035 I agree with this. Also, Czechia and Poland actually had German population already present.

[@mummriken99]

One thing I know for sure is that Rammstein would exist even more

[@Torgo1001]

"What if the Allies won the Second Great War?" becomes a staple alternate history scenario in science fiction, particularly in the Allied nations.

[@sergiom1136]

And then someone suggests: "Maybe a large portion of the population would be gay, people would be changing their gender, some people would call themselves non-binary, there would be racial and gender quotas everywhere, communists would rule the world and white people would have to pay a historic debt to black people" And everyone would be like: "Well... f*ck! Thanks that never happened"

[@sgauden02]

NICE! I hope you do a second part about how the cold war, and the space race go in this timeline.

[@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh]

It will be no space race in second part! Germany would dominate in space and in nuclear energy too. USA will be level below and under The Third Reich.

[@CAProductions051]

As long as I stay in the Americas I’ll probably be fine

[@SlapStyleAnims]

Yup

[@missk1697]

Argentina:

[@Milotheking]

Antarctica:

[@slayride136]

Canada

[@AdrielMichael-xo2hd]

as a Nigerian who was colonised by birtiain i see us very well

[@SilasGaming-cd5up]

Good video and nice work man you are very good

[@donsmods]

Imagine Vietnam with no Fortunate Son...

[@AndreaMoletta-s3c]

But we have a Cuba with fortunate son.

[@havable]

It isn't that whoever wins writes history, its that whoever wins gets the hippies.

[@huks9380]

So there is no winning, you can only lose.

[@SneedFeedAndSeed]

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.

[@SolarSurfer99]

@@huks9380now you have reached enlightenment

[@notlucas6859]

@@SneedFeedAndSeed exactly, its called peace

[@BewareInInternet]

"Make America Rise Again" hat mich ins Rollen gebracht 😭🙏

[@GerwinLovrecki]

Interesting thoughts and by far more realistic then the rest i have seen. Most alternate universes are claiming germany would have tried to conquer the whole world (specially the USA) and thats major BS.

[@herrakaarme]

I saw one where the WW2 end wasn't overly different from this, but then later Germany suddenly used most of its nuke reserves in Vietnam, heedlessly. At that point that scenario became totally silly. This is much better thought out, for sure.

[@ArtUniverse]

1:46 - just a nitpick, but invading through the Caucasus is unrealistic. It's a massive mountain range, a natural barrier that's 1500 km wide, 5 km tall and 150 km thick. You can't just steamroll tank battalions across there like through the Central European plains. Good video overall!

[@MoeSzyslak2001]

But you would have a population unfriendly to the russians there, who would be glad to help Germany if they, for example, were offered independence in return.

[@effexon]

im more curious of logistics as that is brutal region in winter and far from berlin. they would need to quickly build fortifications in urals to keep that place.

[@wyqtor]

But you can invade through the coastal Caspian Sea plain of Northern Azerbaijan through Dagestan. The locals living there are Muslim, so they would also presumably be sympathetic to Germany.

[@benjaminbritsch1749]

the Nazis almost conquered the caucasus in our timeline - just imagine them attacking from two sides...

[@russellking9762]

Wouldn't need to. Hitler wouldn't need to do Barbarossa. He would have unleashed anthrax and smallpox on the Russians then in Africa and India

[@justusP9101]

I would so love to see how this kind of timeline would play out. Really fascinating

[@BruceMyersLBZ]

Sounds better than the past 5 years for sure!

[@Real-Agent-Meta]

That's a rather interesting take on alternate history comparable to that of HOI4 mods like the "Thousand Week Reich" and/or "The New Order: Last Days of Europe". Of course a few inaccuracies with their reichkommissariat borders, but that's not important. But still, great "What If" scenario on a topic widely discussed in media

[@ivan5595]

As fun as these mods are, they are made by certain individuals who wanted to make them to look as bad as possible.

[@genericwhitemale9566]

@@ivan5595 to be fair, there is no way the war could've ended like this. Both the Allies and the Axis said that they would only accept unconditional surrender from the other side. If Britain and The Soviets never capitulated, Germany would've just kept attacking until they did and would've made them a fascist puppet of Germany. There's absolutely no way Hitler would've accepted the Soviets still being around after the war considering how much he hated both Slavs and Communists.

[@ivan5595]

@@genericwhitemale9566 I'm saying that the axis is designed to look bad and evil in these mods

[@Vagab0nd12]

​@@ivan5595Which is absolutely accurate, I mean it wasn't allies that planned and organised mass genocide on "subhumans".

[@joserkp1535]

unfortunately history is written by the victors@@ivan5595

[@nomad5195]

I love how Bose was the first prime minister of India because of the axis victory. Not a lot of people know that Subash Chandra Bose was in talks with hitler regarding the situation of India after a British defeat.

[@zvallid]

he was in berlin too

[@heyybigdaddy6988]

And most Indian leaders had a good connection with Hitler.

[@saranshsaini4870]

Some people say that he was a Nazi for shaking hands with Hitler, but you save your house before caring about others so the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

[@AlvesHeim]

Subhas Chandra Bose was a great man. Much better than Ghandi who was behaving way too peacefully like a British collaborator who Ghandi probably was. Instead, Bose was a man of action. People of India still (in 2024!) remember Bose and honor his name.

[@isengard1500]

Sub has Chandra Bose sided with Japanese forces; The same forces who bayoneted captured British and Indian soldiers. People don’t study history here, that’s how they can conclude that Nazi Germany were the ‘good guys’ when in reality Hitler made millions of Germans perish

[@RodyCorp101]

The Best alt History KZbinr is back

[@Frogman1943]

we wouldnt be smelling cigarette smoke at the front of every walmart in existience

[@Stolencamaro]

We would all drive bmw m5s

[@zvallid]

and blonde gitls

[@goldyoutube7663]

​@@zvallid😳😳🤨

[@zvallid]

@@goldyoutube7663 blonde girls

[@goldyoutube7663]

@@zvallid I Mean They Are Nice But Still 🤨📷

[@stefanoarunzutunz6630]

😍😍😍🔥🔥🔥🔥 m2 competiziooon