Is Throne And Liberty Worth Playing in 2024 As A Casual Player?

[@HackTheMinotaur]

What are your thoughts on Throne And Liberty?

[@blktauna]

Kinda pretty but the combat blows and its boring

[@PowPow000]

Throne and Liberty is the mmo version of Raid: Shadow Legends. Every progression avenue is gated with tokens that you need to refresh daily/ weekly. The gear upgrade system is required both grinding and RNG to get the traits you want all to direct you towards the cash auction house. Also note that there is no trading between characters nor trading between alts. This also forces you to use the auction house and paying the 20% tax on every transaction.

[@jasongreen6946]

Well fuck them. They have no right to make money...lol

[@larsschulze2799]

this needs more upvotes

[@jasongreen6946]

God forbid you might have to spend a few bucks on a game , coders,artists and animators put every bit of their heart and soul into. Oh. The fuckin horror. Just play the. game or go play Veiguard. You'll come running back.

[@MarijuanaFireFighter]

@@jasongreen6946 i'd rather pay a flat subscription fee than play a game where the highest bidder is the "best" player

[@InimicusSolitus]

For all it's beauty, I found it overwhelming yet boring. Way too many systems, with a very cluttered UI. I really tried to enjoy it it, but was forcing myself to log in, so gave up.

[@abdelrahmanrad]

You never played an MMO before

[@JKurayami]

@@abdelrahmanrad no no, they're right. WoW, FFXIV, LOTRO, etc all handle this so much better. You know.. games that have existed for a really long time and didn't die in the home country?

[@InimicusSolitus]

@@abdelrahmanrad I've played MMOs since 2001

[@robertc.5558]

There is literally like 5 systems. What do you mean? Lol

[@jonahjameson272]

Yep seems like chores instead of enjoying a game

[@Vasthrae]

I definitely enjoy my time with the game. The group I play with is from DAoC, FF11, and early Eve Online. We only do PVE stuff a couple nights a week. The dungeons are fun and the loot drop system is way more forgiving than what we are used to. Having a bit of extra time, usually do the solo stuff. Definitely feels more respectable with our time than with other MMOs we play/played.

[@Northern-Germany]

Beautiful game and lovely quests, but confusing mechanics with a zillion of materials. You need a nerd diploma to understand how the gear progression really works. Moreover, the Pay-to-Win people spending hundreds of dollars for gear will nuke casuals in PvP. - So I am back to ESO until Marvel Rivals will be released in December to rock the gaming world.

[@sativacation]

@@Northern-Germany well said. I played ESO for years, I’ve not played lately but once you’ve experienced the combat system alone in an MMO like that, it’s hard to switch over to something like this one.

[@Ivoryking1003]

Yeah at first it was confusing but when you figure it out, it becomes much more enjoyable.

[@Northern-Germany]

​@@Ivoryking1003 Indeed. However, if you figure out the RIGHT gear progression TOO LATE, you may find yourself in a situation where you invested all your resources the WRONG way, and then you are stuck with the wrong gear. Some people even created a new character after realizing this. No thanks. The graphics and quest designers deserve a medal for the beauty of the game, but the game mechanics designers IMHO RUINED the game.

[@OnlyBuenoBars]

50/50. The community only allows one Hero Arena. They like Leaguers but not as bad. It could be amazing but the community find a way to bury it.

[@OnlyBuenoBars]

I will bet you money bro. 🥹

[@tonecyphers9239]

The game can definitely be a grind after max level but can be fun with a pve focused guild. Just throw on some music and do the daily dungeons and contracts. You can do the open world dungeons or some of the timed guild activities or not. It feels more grindy if you are chasing the BIS gear and traits. This game can seriously take over your life if you let it.

[@soplam9555]

They should make more cometics for peice of gear if they want the game to strive in NA, if you look good you'll always feel good playing the games you play.

[@thisdamnguyagain4450]

As a paid game this game would be a disaster but as f2p it is worth a try. I cannot stress enough that you should not repeat do not buy any in game currency. As a free player you can earn lots of it but with the amount of glitches in this game and the fact that it will probably die I wouldn’t spend any cash. It’s a great game to kill time until poe2 and monster hunter release

[@ItsGonorrhea]

not everyone is waiting for those games, thats a wild assumption there sir.

[@HeroesInFaith]

@@ItsGonorrheaconsidering millions of people are waiting for said games, it’s a solid assumption its only being played to kill time…. Unless a new MMORpg comes out to blow it out the water. Crimson desert whenever that comes out is a single-player experience of BDO but better! People will leave mmos for said titles.

[@trevanjohnson9435]

Nah cuz why are there pvp world bosses. Like im already taking damage from the boss that can stun me or really hurt me but now im taking damage from a guy using a meta build that also stuns me and kills me probably faster than the boss.

[@mopsik4ever]

Do the peace bosses instead.....

[@trevanjohnson9435]

@ guess you didn’t see the title where it says casual player. As someone who works 3-11 and has 2 kids there are some bosses I want to fight but have to wait hours to fight. I don’t have the time to wait for 1 specific boss to be peaceful.

[@dontavoidthenoid]

As a casual player, no not worth it. Unless you really like pvp, don’t bother. You can reach max level pretty fast compared to other mmos, and after that it’s just an extremely repetitive grind fest. You just do the same dungeons over and over so you can get better gear, so that you can get a little stronger and run those same dungeons a little faster. If it actually had decent life skills like BDO it would be much better.

[@vecna2502]

Im almost at 700 hours with my main and 2 alts. Almost 3. So yeah. No. Unless you are not into competitive events such as sieges, arenas, wars, etc, you can go full casual. Like grind that rod and your stoves all the way up. No worries. Otherwise, is not for casuals. At all. Because the more content we get, the more grindier it gets and if you dont boost your character somehow you will -trust me, you will- get stuck. Eventually. Oh, and for the guy who said that the game "respects your time". Bro.. its an NCSOFT game. Like, Lineage 2 game. Koreans loves the grind. The game doesnt respect your time nor your mistakes. And you will make mistakes. A lot. The system, resources, etc, are ruthless. Watch some videos, understand the mechanics, etc. You will not regret it. P.S: And for tab target complaints... guys, you no radar? Cant be more easier than that. Use. The. Radar. It has to be one of the best mechanics ive played on an mmorpg.

[@hjxflavor]

I have a 3090 but my game looks not that great. I tried to trouble shoot the blurriness and wasted half a day. Quite frustrating.

[@Anthony3187]

Set post processing to level 2 instead of level 4 and the game looks MUCH crisper.

[@MarijuanaFireFighter]

check the shaders

[@butwhy8944]

Short answer: No Long answer: Still no

[@mopsik4ever]

Once toy finish everything you will have 2 hours of game time a day until all tokens are done.... Terrible time gating

[@TheLMBLucas]

Unlike BDO, T&L actually looks good. I'm playing it casually and it's worth it for the combat, it's fun and fast and theorycrafting is cool, something that WoW and FFXIV can't offer you. If you are casual... just don't look at tier lists, avoid them like a plague lol

[@Ganooch]

No, PTW.

[@megusta6848]

Most guilds are Gaint Sword only, huh.

[@higguma]

100 hours isnt enough to make a review on this game. You need like 200 at least, and thats when the bs shows up and you realize what a waste of time it is. You’ll never be even close to a paid player. And i said paid, not p2w. I mean the guy spending $20 a week clears you every single time. Your progression will be 10% of theirs and You’ll have to do unfun things to just exist. Shit game that will die. 300 hours plus in it.

[@damion1121]

I feel like since it’s a free game it should’ve focused on cosmetic sales. Being able to buy traits saves a lot of time though if it don’t mind throwing that 20 bucks at it. It’s a long F2p grind but for normal adults who don’t mind spending the money it’s not bad.

[@underGearedFtw]

I made the mistake of paying for early access; it’s both a blessing and a curse that it’s grindy, because that makes it more of a casual experience for f2p. However it feels like a waste of time, especially since I mostly want to pvp. Targeting system is fine for party, but otherwise not great. Likely will not keep grinding.

[@tyhjyys]

as a free console mmo it's probably one of the better tries. that's not really saying much when many great free gacha games exist that ironically value your time and money more than this.

[@GR-mf9us]

im downloading now. i really want to play but i hate pvp its not for me. will try it

[@leslynch5632]

If your not into pvp then you will definitely hate this lol

[@BlondeNordic]

Story is meh because it is not continuing it's sliced up in to sections. Every area has its own story which to me who lives for the stories it got boring.

[@luizgames9059]

If you are a casual player, you can play any game you want. Does not really matter. Anyways…

[@mrssirens]

Ive got 400+ in the game, if you are a casual player you will likely hate this game, its really not made for it, and you will hate doing the same thing every time at endgame. Its held together by duct tape.

[@JoseRamos-gb4st]

Tried it and no thanks

[@iCHRIS-x]

Gay

[@HungTran-gx7cf]

After spending over 200 hours in this game, it has become increasingly boring. Once you reach level 50, the daily activities are limited to repeatedly clearing dungeon tokens, contracts, and abyssal tokens, which take 2-3 hours to complete depending on how friendly your dungeon party members are. After that, the only options are to wait for the world boss time or participate in nighttime PvP. Although the game is advertised as PvP-focused, which is my favorite aspect of MMORPG, it’s a complete mess-especially open-world bosses and siege wars. If you’ve participated in ArcheAge daily contents and pvp, you’ll know what I mean. How can a 10-year-old game have so much cool content while modern games lack it? P2W destroyed ArcheAge, but boredom is destroying TAL.

[@sagedakillasdk5181]

Made too many friends playing this game

[@SerpentintheSun]

I just passed 100 hrs myself and find myself logging on..playing for 5 mins and logging off. Gotten very boring and repetitive

[@EloyBushida]

The dungeons flip to PVP at midnight, is that in game time or real time? Seems like a stupid system either way honestly.

[@fadetoblack3648]

I think your experience is going to be dictated by what server you start on.

[@doomshaman5853]

The answer is NO. My observations: Tab targeting and response its bad and delayed on consoles, hence PvP and mechanics issues. Switching classes/weapons/skills will make you fall behind, especially leveling up skills, it should be easy. To be relevant you have to p2w, join a guild and play a lot. Game boils down to whales guilds gating content and servers. Unless design changing to be more inclusive for all types of players, beyond novelty game will lose popularity just like in KC, despite of game graphics. My recommendation, playing it a bit until something else comes up, like poe2, should be ok. Don't spend money and do not set any performance expectations.

[@medusagg]

Lvl 50 in less than a day, forcing grind for gear that rarely you can get. Timegate farm and dungeon 😂😂

[@TaddyMasonn]

PSA: IF UR ON CONSOLE DONT WASTE UR TIME ON THIS GAME!! No new content. They drip feed it and even when they do that we still dont get new content. Today no 2 star dungeons for console. Even if we did get it we still dont get the other 2 star dungeon till dec 5th. Its ridiculous. The lies and incompetence isnt surprising tho. Now everyone has to wait for who knows how long because people cant do their job. Its pathetic and im so tired of the same bs from videos games. They will jus give everyone a couple hundred ornate coins and thank everyone for their patience. Dont waste ur time.

[@cw8786]

Any vid I watch of this game, the graphics have this strange faded/hazy look to it, REALLY don't like it.

[@Haninos]

This game has pulled me out of ESO :| It's a good game, dispite there are some bad notes about its crafting system, and progression in general, and the rarity of materials, especially the cooking ingredients is an absolute joke maybe because i've came from ESO which has a pretty well-made crafting system, in general crafting in T&L is silly and not fun at all. another thing, when you run out of your dungeons tokens, abysal currency, and resistance contracts , then its time to sleep cause literally there's nothing else interesting you could do as a PVE player which is funny.

[@Da_bul215]

Definitely NOT console friendly for sure. Coms suck, left us hanging on 2 ⭐️ dungeons too level 3260 tank I’m sick.

[@hardwingosia]

742hrs🤣🤣🤣I do not recommend for casuals at all. It's one sided and heavily pay to win even worse for late comers. Blue gear alone can have you strong but with every new level like from T1 to T2 you must keep up or pay up to play at a neutral level. To play as a dedicated player then happy you got that big money. I won't even touch on the recycled stuff😂😂😂😂

[@ericshutter5305]

Nope, too grindy and boring... you pay for everything or you are not high-end ... with 'free" play you play 100hours/week or you loose

[@spikytoaster]

Pretty game but the forced pvp makes it a hard pass for me unfortunately

[@cptghostmaker]

Nope

[@JKurayami]

This game only seems to be made for casual players. There is not much to do.

[@feight_28]

If course, if you play a competitive game and decide not to be competitive... It's going to be boring. Lol. Don't be afraid. Hit some people

[@jamiller83]

No its not worth it!

[@SuperbExistence]

Spend a little bit.

[@neoconker2k8]

Nah, i tried it, and it's just an average boring AF do your dailies and log off type game .

[@AmbitiousPanda]

Your not playing a meta build!

[@leslynch5632]

Game is terrible don’t waste your time.

[@Nisbe1]

game is "focused" on PVP but PVP is unbalanced,p2w players ofc already have all on max and you nees time and time to make your set on max,you must chise right set if not,you r fked as a free2play, pvp is unbalanced,world nothing much,yes graph. is great i like,but. crafting?is 2ez,fishing is also easy and nonprofitable etc. i think this game not worth our time,there is alot older mmos better then this "unreal" engine mmo.next,you dont have mount,you transform into the bitd,wolf or fish,one more think that i dosnt like,i do not recommend this game.

[@larsschulze2799]

Cant stand the p2w mechanics

[@cali4806]

Yep, its free so why not? Stay? Lol probably not coz its boring af

[@GenDrake3]

The uwu stuff is kinda cringe and the combat is mid

[@georgelayton6641]

No, get out and get a job. What do you mean should you play? Sheesh, if that is what a person chooses to do in their spare time, then fine.

[@alexj353]

this makes no sense lmao

[@abdelrahmanrad]

It's the only casual friendly MMO. At least for me.