Is Thursday's Diplomat the World's Most Versatile Moc Toe?

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Thursday Boot Company's moc toe boot, the Diplomat is the most striking moc toe I've seen but it's also the most versatile and subtle. Unlike practically every other moc on the market, it has a relatively slim, tapered silhouette that makes for a moc that can be dressed up and down with surprising ease. Here's a review!
00:00 Intro
00:44 Thursday Diplomat aesthetic
01:137 Red Wing moc toe vs Thursday
02:25 Thursday's Rugged & Resilient leather
03:02 Thursday Diplomat sole
04:24 Thursday Diplomat fit & sizing
07:21 Thursday Diplomat price
7:56 Thursday Diplomat Pros
08:53 Thursday Diplomat Cons
#thursdayboots #thursdaydiplomat #thursdaymoctoe

[@Stridewise]

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[@nolanwalsh646]

Love the review -we’re big fans!

[@liamjamesevans]

Please, give this guy some more boots to review :D

[@omegamanGXE]

I was the 69th like

[@zachp5291]

Yes! The individual boot reviews are my favorite, and IMO the heart of your channel. Excited to see the Brass Boot review.

[@alvinkoeswanto8622]

Thank god you're back to reviewing boots Nick. I was waiting for this kind of stuff. Nice job.

[@corensam]

Never been a big Moc toe guy but cool to hear about the arch support in there, especially at that price. I have a pair of their Loggers in Waxed Flesh that I've been beating on for about 6 months now and man there's some wild value to be had with Thursday!

[@mikekuczynski1552]

I currently have two pairs of Thursdays boots and they are great . I purchased the Diplomats in the burnt copper last week and should have them this coming week can’t wait to see how they work out .I feel better about my purchase after seeing your review I have never owned a moc toe boot before and when I was looking at them I wasn’t keen on the big moc toe look , but when I saw these I thought that could work . They just looked slimmer. Thanks for sharing

[@shaynelaw9629]

Thanks for the great review Nick! I love my Thursday Boots and Th Diplomat may be next to be ordered. This was one my wife preferred most when I asked her opinion on all of their styles. Have to get me pair.

[@BullittHilts]

I’m saving up to get these. I’ve always wanted moc-toe boots - the arch support that I hear about on every review of these is a big selling point! Thanks for the great, thorough review!

[@1975dmadman]

I been waiting for you review these boots! Absolutely love mine. My go to boots. Great boots for NYC walking

[@BradleyHansonPhotography]

A good, thorough review. I agree with your assessment, too. These are insanely comfortable immediately, probably the combo of the poron and the unusually good arch support, but I found sizing up to 13 from my 12.6 Brannock size worked best for me or my big toe got rubbed raw. I’ve had Red Wing Moc toes and these are definitely an easier break-in. My only real complaint, albeit minor, with my Thursdays is the interior leather lining is so slick that I find myself sliding forward in the boot, rubbing toes. I agree with you that unlined, rougher interior would be preferable for most people.

[@Ager256]

I was really looking forward to seeing this review. I just bought a pair at the start of the year and have been loving them. I had been seeing this boots in your Instagram posts, but couldn't find any video or article from you about them.

[@edf2953]

Hey Nick, nice review of Thursday’s Diplomat Moc toe boot. It looks like Thursday continues to put out some nice boots. I haven’t purchased any Thursday’s boots yet, but with all the good reviews, I might have to get me a pair. Take care, Ed.

[@trentsapp731]

I like you, have owned many pairs of moc toe boots,,as a matter of fact i still do. These have been my favorite for the last 30 years. I have this exact pair of 11.5 burnt copper diplomats. I also have some bull run and two pairs of whites perry. I just disposed of a pair of 5 year old red wings that were beyond any further repair. It hurt.. I bought the first pair of perrys to replace them and with wider sizes available I don't think I'll ever go back to the red wing. The diplomats were purchased for casual use and I love them for that purpose, the glove leather lining is absolutely luxurious. They're snug, but the lining actually in my opinion helps. The whites are far and away my favorites, they may not be for everyone, but for my foot and use the finest of its type yet. Good video!

[@NathanKnepper]

Awesome review!! Been thinking about getting these for my Dad as an entry into the world of quality leather boots. He likes this style of boot more than your traditional service boot and I think the lack of a need for major break-in would probably be beneficial.

[@indianastarkjones1535]

Thanks for the reply...You are now my second favorite Australian after Paul Hogan...My love for the first Crocodile Dundee movies started 35 years when I was 12. But I enjoy your honest reviews and professional yet everyday man personality.Cheers mate.

[@Stridewise]

my favorite comment ever, just put you in my instagram story :)

[@tommysmith7031]

Your review was great and informative! I get a sense of what it would be like to wear these boots, whether I get heel slip or not. Moreover, you can extol the virtues of a boot without making sound like a sales pitch. Furthermore, you explain why someone might prefer leather line or not. Also, as a suggestion at the 7:05 mark when you are walking on the street it would be cool if you had icons over the coat, jeans & bag directing the viewer to the reviews you did on those products.

[@sisleymichael]

Nick, an update. I did get a pair. They are great. Super comfy. Not a work boot but if you need a casual knocking around town boot, not bad at all. Not crazy in price. I can see that by the time I need to resole these things will feel like slippers. My feet thank you.

[@BirdNoise77]

It seems to me that Thursday excels in pretty much everything lol. I bought a pair of Captain's about a month ago and I'm in love! Even the belt is great

[@iansamuelson3666]

Probably the 3rd time I've seen this review. My burnt copper pair is being delivered today. This will be my first pair of boots in years. Very excited. Great review.

[@namenick9057]

What do you think of them now?

[@BittyBeach]

i purchased the Pebble colorway yesterday they restocked it. Your video sold me on the boot 🤘🏽

[@traviswatson1763]

Good job on the pistol squat. Oh, and great review.

[@DavidGriffis]

Spot on review. On mine I notice they're warmer also as a result of less area on the top, on the front of my toes. They almost rub in that area so that's taken getting used to. I like that they're slightly lighter. I got them in dark blue. Most of my boots are brown so it was a welcome addition. But the Tobacco leather looks nice and I might go for them too.

[@jon0328]

Love these boots. These were the first pair of Thursdays I ever purchased.

[@bigstraz]

I’ve been wanting these for a couple years now. Maybe will have to get them this year

[@VikingsNetworkAdmin]

Been waiting for this review! You have said in the past that Thursday’s captains were very comfortable boots, how do these compare (for general comfort)?

[@rockon21ful]

Got confirmation this afternoon that my pair had shipped😎👍 Looking forward to owning a wedge sole boot as it’s been a long time as everything I own has a heel, also picked up the Burnt Copper leather after going around and around about it or the Arizona Adobe‼️Hopefully I made the right decision and this will be my forth pair of Thursday Boots and will be picking up a 3rd pair of Captains in the Canyon as it has really caught my attention & love the vintage look of the leather. Another solid video, keep up the great work 🍻🍺🍻

[@Thursdayboots]

We love finding long-time supporters! We're glad to hear that you're enjoying all your boots. Your support means the world to us!

[@davchilders]

Best boot in the market IMHO. I did have a break-in period of about a week or two. After the leather and cork molds to your foot you can't beat the comfort. It is hard for me to explain the comfort level, really. I used to get terrible calf cramps when wearing any other type of shoe or boot. Since I've been wearing these everyday, however, I haven't had any foot or calf problems. I'm a lifer with this boot, hands down.

[@AlexMPruteanu]

Red Wing guy here who just bought a pair of these in burnt copper based on this review. And lemme tell you, you have this spot-on. Everything you say here is absolutely spot-on. Also, just straight out of the box, these babies were beautiful and smelled even better. Just...that nice new leather smell that permeated the entire house. I like that. So. Wearing them today, the 2nd day. Just put 6.5 miles on them and have had them on for 8 straight hours. Very very little break-in pre-blister forming at the left heel. Nothing to really write about. I imagine that by tomorrow everything should be perfect. I plan on putting on at least 5 miles tomorrow. Fantastic fit. I am a size 12 sneaker and got the 11.5 and they fit me like my super-duper running shoes. Amazing boot. Also, goes with shorts really well. Just Google some images for outfit ideas. Love these--they are my first moc toes. Decided for the TBC instead of my usual Red Wing brand for 2 reasons: TBC sizes their D boots a little on the wider side. I am in between a D and an E. When possible, I always get the E though. These are perfect for me, even though they're a D. But like I said, they lean toward an E. The 2nd reason I got the TBC over the Red Wings: lower profile toe box. Absolutely wonderful. Plenty of room, despite the lower profile. I am so impressed with these TBCs that they have quickly become my favourite. Your review is absolutely spot-on. The review made me decide to get them. And I'm glad I did. They are gorgeous, well-made, fit me amazingly, and are my new summer footwear, believe it or not. They overtook my Red Wing Wabasha chukkas for summer--those being very light as you may know (discontinued model, though) with the canvas on the side. But these...man, these are the jam! Thanks for another wonderful review.

[@roguedobie]

I love my tbc diplomats in Arizona adobe. They are comfortable, stylish, and a perfect every day boot

[@Iberian247]

It’s a great looking boot, it’s probably gonna be my first Thursday boot. I’d also love to see it in some of their shinier leathers, and with the traditional rubber studded sole & heel.

[@liamjamesevans]

They’ve already made that but discontinued it

[@drewengles4477]

I initially ordered the Throughgood moc toe but they were way to boxy and had heal slippage on one boot. Still not a huge fan of the moc toe design but when I run out of new boot options these are what I'll go with.

[@walfredmelendez9159]

I have these, the Danners and the Nisolo Mateo, you should do a video on those, they’re also very sleek and fit nice, more towards fashion instead of work

[@davidmacy2252]

Another good review. I have a pair in Adobe and I love them. You hit it on the head with saying it's a modern take on the moc toe, which I prefer. That copper color looks really good with jeans by the way.

[@DMorgan77]

I'm considering a pair and am deciding between the Adobe and copper. How was your sizing?

[@davidmacy2252]

@@DMorgan77 I went a half size down and the fit was good. I'm a 10 in sneakers and generally a 9.5 in Thursday boots. Also, I'm an E width.

[@DMorgan77]

@@davidmacy2252 thank you Sir

[@davidmacy2252]

@@DMorgan77 You're welcome

[@xxflamezxx1able]

Love the look of these boots but I have had my captain boots for about 3-4 years now and the poron at this point has completely flattened out and even caused some ankle pain since my ankle sank down and was being rubbed by the counter. I know their new counters are really soft now and crushable so maybe you won't get that ankle pain when the poron flattens.

[@UserLev]

Ha! I was wondering when you were going to review these. I thought they might suit your fancy earlier. I have these boots! In this color too! I tend to wear them often to the office and warehouse. I love them to death. I’ve used them for some light lawn work too, but they’re mostly my warehouse dogs. Great color, extremely comfortable too. I had a slight issue in the toe box on the right foot due to how sleek the toe box was initially, but that’s more due to my own problem I had to take care of. My sizing was also 0.5 down (like all my Thursdays) from my Brannock & sneaker size, which is 11. Spot on. I’m glad you like them too, Nick!

[@KeagsC65]

What is this color if you don’t mind me asking?

[@UserLev]

@@KeagsC65 Burnt copper!

[@paulsnell1274]

Speaking of Thursday Boots, I hope you consider doing a review of the Vanguard in Waxed Cacao leather. It is a unique build and looks great but a review would be helpful

[@gaylongraham077]

I initially missed how perfectly proportioned this boot is for actual daily use. I regularly wear Viberg, White's, Alden, and Grant Stone boots and this particular model is right there with them in style and comfort. Just wore the black yesterday and the leather has a beautiful patina that's only getting better with time.

[@norwegianwarhound451]

Been looking at these for a while. Will pull the trigger sometime, but want to get their sneaker first. Going to be reviewing that anytime soon?

[@MemphisCorollaS]

Rewatching this now that I’ve seen the lugged sole option released on these. Could Thursday compete with the Grant Stone Brass boot for overall moc toe value now? Maybe some KZbin channel will review that? Thanks for the great content 👍

[@jamesestrada82]

Hi Nick👋🏼 How’s the fit/feel when compared directly to Red Wing?

[@Raguvian]

I've been waiting for this review for so long I've stopped wearing boots altogether. Still love watching your reviews though!

[@paul_domici]

I bought a pair of Captain boots 1/2 size smaller and they were the hardest thing in the world to break in!!!

[@predwards8941]

I like my pair. Not a boot expert by any means but I’ve enjoyed wearing them the past few falls

[@janlesterm2438]

Mate, can you do a Thursday Explorer/Commander review? Thanks! I'm not sure what to get for my first Thursday. 😁

[@Rerun4658]

Taylor Stitch recently released a sleeker Moc Toe boot called the scout

[@par3caddy]

Good video. I'm personally not a fan of the white wedge sole, I prefer traditional alden Indy moc toe type sole.. but maybe if they had a different color(brown or gray)wedge. Would influence my decision

[@paulsnell1274]

How do these Thursday Diplomats compare against the Rhodes Owen Boot, another sleek moc toe? The Owens are also fully leather lined and welted. Both the Thursday and Rhodes use leather from the Le Farc Tannery in Mexico

[@infinitemisery7782]

What jeans were you wearing with the boots? Enjoyed the review, Thank you.

[@saumilthakore253]

Hi Nick from Stridewise, great review! I love the sleeker take on the moc-toe that the Diplomat provides, I personally wish it had a better build though, more akin to a red wing or white's perry. Could you do a review on the Crown Northampton Sneaker collection (overstone and harlestone)? Rose Anvil did a teardown and was very impressed, and I am curious as to how you would rate them vs the Koios that you have lauded in the past!

[@grinningfool34]

Originally the Thursday Diplomat was a “faux” moc toe, exactly like the Alden Indie. It was pretty much a President model, with the exception of the stitching on the toe. Then around 2018 they completely changed the boot by switching to the white Vibram wedge soles, and making it a true moc toe. I have a pair of each, and they are completely different boots, but they are both Thursday Diplomats. Both are great boots.

[@atomicred1037]

Great review! In a lot of ways, i like a modern take on a classic look. But, in this case, I'd have to sway towards the traditional look. These seem a little too sleek. I guess i'll have to save my pennies and get those Redwings i've been eyeing :/

[@seannykolyshyn7801]

Hello, how are the diplomat shoes in the winter/ snow and ice?

[@coyote4936]

have you done a review of the "indy boots" that j crew had made a while back? i found a brand new pair at a thrift store. They are good boots so far. i was wondering who makes the boots for j crew or do they make their own shoes?

[@Simon-hd6dc]

How do they compare against the Captain boots in terms of sizing? Are they wider in the toe area?

[@XFS540]

How does the durability of the Vibram Christy sole compare to the Red Wing Traction Tred?

[@timothyvoorhees4176]

You should definitely check out the Red Wing Wacotas. Actually, they changed the name, now it is the "Weekender Canvas Moc". It has a lower moc toe and a canvas panel on the shaft. It is a great summer boot! I was really surprised by them. I've come to enjoy them more than I originally expected.

[@AlexMPruteanu]

I have the discontinued version of the Wacotas (the Red Wing Wabasha chukkas w/the canvas) and I can attest they are fantastic summer boots. But, as in my review above, this particular TBC Moc Toe has taken over as my summer boot--despite it NOT being a summer boot. It's perfect enough for my taste and I love how it goes with shorts. But yes, the Red Wings Wacotas/Weekender Canvas Moc are cool summer boots.

[@motechrecords]

what is your opinion on the toe box? are they narrow or wide or? I have a wide foot so im worried they maybe a narrow fit.

[@kso808]

One of the best moc toe profiles IMHO

[@jeremaester1299]

Need these in wide widths!

[@727kyle727]

Currently looking for some moc toe boots with steel toes for work... These thursdays and also the redwings classic moc don't come in a safety toe. Best option I can find is thorogood... If anyone has a good recommendation please lmk

[@jmas2190]

The leather boot insole literally makes your sock smell like glove leather. That's coming from my wife butt great interior. Also small toe box with out being small magical. And last comfort and the price are great since all my boot's in the past were much more Red wing,chippewas, thorogood. So all around great boot great price and great review.

[@Jay-rd6fe]

what i like about these boots is that is un gusette bcus as somone with a high step in i can not get my feet into redwings only iron rnagers tho iw sih they were unlined or just canvas lined due to having sweaty feet myself

[@702tfrom]

Just received these boots. Boots feel and look great. Downside for me is the white soles gets dirty easily.

[@Herwiggle]

Just got my burnt copper today and they look way darker than yours? Does the color fade after wear?

[@josecortes6485]

Really wish they’d make the sole on the black leather version of this boot black as well like the thorogood midnight series. I’d be sold if that was the case

[@Stridewise]

Ah I'm sure they will! Or you could spend a bunch of money resoling this haha

[@momo-hs5jn]

This boot shares more similarities to an Alden Indy Boot then a Moc Toe IMO. It lacks that rugged look that i like about Moc Toes.

[@saifullahjohari3592]

My fav youtube channel...

[@dancgilliam]

I just ordered the burnt copper why does it look so much darker on their site? Hmmm

[@jacoblowe387]

i dont know if i should for these or redwings i want a wide toe box dont want my toes squished

[@somerandomperson8282]

I have been looking at the Pebble colour of the Diplomats for a versatile colour that dresses up or down. What are you guys favourite colour and why? :)

[@lincolnhtschick]

Beautiful boots, just bought them for bf’s birthday. 😊

[@steverobenalt4383]

Thanks for your review. Best review I found and very helpful on the color as well. I am wondering if you found that your diplomat's loosened up in the top box after some use. I just received my pair and found they were more narrow up front that I anticipated for a boot. The length is fine and I am concerned about going up half size which might be too loose elsewhere. Thanks again for all the right details you covered.

[@iamnitrox]

Compare to Thorogood or Red Wing?

[@karem9605]

here in The Netherlands, 200 euros is a bit expensive, however as a Chilean I think is a good price a very good price versus quality but .... How wide are they my husband is H here or G+

[@robertclinger7351]

Do they come in Wide?

[@jakemontalbano3771]

Have you considered reviewing the Perry Boot by Whites?

[@Stridewise]

Already filmed!

[@robertmendoza530]

I like this moc toe, not really that bulky. Nice one here 👏👍

[@topdawgentlv7029]

Love this boot

[@Van-du8uz]

What is the most comfortable boots to wear if you going to be on your feet for 8 to 10 hours.

[@SP-pn7xx]

what colour is this?

[@MattandCamrynReact]

I want to jump into my first pair of good boots and am torn between these Thursday Diplomats and the Iron Ranger or Blacksmith… If I can only choose one, what is the best route to go?

[@Stridewise]

Your first pair of Goodyear welted boots? ... Red Wing, just for the full heavyweight experience

[@MattandCamrynReact]

@@Stridewise I meant just good boots in general but yes also Goodyear welted… I ended up ordering a pair of Iron Ranger 1st and a pair of 2nds and somehow won an eBay bid for a pair of unused Red Wing round toe 😳😳😳

[@Joa287]

It's basically an Indie Boot with a wedge sole. Looks more military (or dressy) than workwear. They look great!

[@nicholaspietrzak9992]

Saw a resole video of these and the outcome kinda reminded me of and indie style boot

[@yankeesfanforlife506]

Good video.. Nice boot but the Redwing classic moc looks better in my opinion

[@sbentsen2714]

Are these boots Good for a job site? Id be buying them for work 👍🏼

[@baileymarkussen7231]

Anyone wear these for work? I do construction and wear red wing soft toes right now anyway but they’re contractor shoes not a lot of heel support. I own Thursday captains and like Thursday as a company so I’d like too buy these if they’re worth it. If they can handle day too day shit kickin if I may.

[@lapatrie6568]

Russell moccasins. Anything by them. No break in time. You are walking on air. Absolutely the best thing that you can do for your feet and yourself

[@Stridewise]

6 month order time though, it's hard to recommend them to the average dude

[@sisleymichael]

Good review. For $200 and not a lot of break in, sounds like I might need to get a pair.

[@StolenAlias]

Im glad that more people are getting into boots but i feel like immediate comfort or no break in is a sign the boot will not last as long due to the synthetic foams or thinner leathers. Then again my feet aren’t the same as the next guy so.

[@JL-nk1pc]

Wish the soles were a light brown instead of white

[@mcordova1015]

Weird question I know but.. what brand is that black henley?

[@Stridewise]

Pistol Lake!

[@mcordova1015]

@@Stridewise thanks man!!

[@YungChief]

Thorogood for work, Redwing & Thursdays for Style.

[@brookebenatural]

What color way are you wearing with the black laces?

[@Stridewise]

Burnt Copper

[@brookebenatural]

Thank you! Also do you think this boot is ok for a shallow depth/instep foot? I seem to struggle with boots, especially red wings as there always seems to be so much negative space.

[@alexdefaro]

The redwing 877 has a slimmer toe box imo. Check it out someday.

[@Jh1847]

He has a pair of 877. I can confirm that. Right Nick?

[@noelfinn8423]

How do you clean this type of leather.? Does one condition and wax as usual.? Do these need to be waterproofed? Sorry for all the questions. Noel Thanks

[@MVTTIC]

Do feet get hot in these? I have red wings and my feet feel like they’re boiling if I’m out in 90 degree heat

[@Stridewise]

If your feet get hot in Red Wings they'll get hot in these - Red Wings are unlined! Thursdays have thinner leather but they're lined so it'll probably be the same.

[@Tharification]

You are forgetting the Red Wing Wabasha, Wacouta and most important the alden indy boot (this might be the sleekest moc toe boot)

[@zacharvey6889]

Fantastic review, but how are we ignoring the pistol squat? My guy strong!

[@Stridewise]

hahah thanks!

[@estern001]

"Alden begs to differ," said Dr. Jones.

[@StolenAlias]

That’s not a true moc toe

[@estern001]

@@StolenAlias Moc moc toe.

[@estern001]

@@StolenAlias They all look the same to Sacagawea.

[@CrispaeVitae]

These look great, but there's absolutely no wiggle room in the toe. I had the same problem with the Captains. I returned these and got the Red Wing 875.

[@jdelorenzod2725]

Did you break them in? The Captains were uncomfortably snug for me as well, suffocating my toes like crazy. Took about 3-4 weeks to break them in, after blisters and all.

[@CrispaeVitae]

@@jdelorenzod2725 I used shoe stretchers so the toe was bearable. They're ok now, but not my favorite to wear.

[@somerandomperson8282]

You probably either needed to size up or get an EE width, because my US11D Captains have a lot of toe space and I suffer from pinkie toe pain so am very relieved by it.

[@davepaek5014]

how thin or thicker are these compared to their Captains and Vanguards?

[@jawntanamo_bae]

I think your next Moc toe boot should be the White’s Perry