Is Toyota's BZ4X the Worst EV in the Market?

[@r5LgxTbQ]

The range estimate isn't showing deterioration, it's showing your driving style consumes more energy than normal. This would be expected if you have a lot of highway miles. Both EVs and gas cars will adapt their guess-o-meter based on how you drive. At full price the bz4X isn't very good but at the current discounted prices it's actually a good deal. There's currently a $16,250 lease cash incentive so you can lease one for under $300/mo.

[@dariusdareme]

Yeah. His assertions are just stupid. We all know EVs ranges are way under the claimed ones. The only reason WLTP and others are so optimistic, is to make us buy electric.

[@r5LgxTbQ]

@@dariusdareme the US EPA range figures are a bit more realistic than WLTP but still it's only done at something like 55mph

[@MMXANCE]

@r5LgxTbQ you're not tricking anybody, Cole Lowenfield

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

The car's had a year to adjust to my style, and it's still consistently wrong by 15-20% on average, and that's on top of the 8-10% it takes for the AC (which I don't love, but don't count against it). It's been the same commute, using drive assist, same hours, same traffic, same everything, and I still don't know if I will make it to work or not when the car says it has 20-40 miles more of estimated range than the distance of my commute. If you think it's a good deal to spend money on something that terribly underperforms, feel free to take it. I wish you the best of luck, and hope that you don't encounter any of the issues I did.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I expected 5% underperformance, which is not ideal, but understandable. 10% is not good, but still barely tolerable. This thing underperforms constantly by over 20%, and that's after it's had a year to adjust the estimates to my driving style. So, if you claim that everyone already knew that when a car manufacturer says that their EV's range is 242miles, that what they really meant it's that it's somewhere between 120-140, then anybody who gets one or supports this technology is stupid because they actively know they are getting defrauded.

[@renmedia]

Toyota admited already that we are not ready for electric vehicles yet. You can imagine de level of quality invested in a car that the producer does not belive in...

[@FéargalO]

No rear wiper..deal breaker for many i am sure unless you live in sunny LA where it never rains.

[@JackMaslovCZLive]

The range estimate dropping down after a few weeks, does not mean that you lose actual range. The car comes adjusted from the factory, with an unrealistic range prediction, which later on, as it monitors your driving, realizes it's unrealistic and brings it closer to reality. Although it showed 250 miles the first day you got the car, the actual range, even the first day, could have been 140 miles. And later on, it may have just adjusted to showing 180 miles, which is closer to the actual range that you were getting from the beginning. I still agree with you that the charging times and the actual battery range and performance is horrible though and makes it very impractical to use in any other scenario than small daily commutes.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Even with the current adjusted estimate, it's consistently wrong. I wish it would reach those numbers! It consistently drains on average 15-20% more than it should, and that's on top of the 8-10% it uses for AC, which I don't always drive with. So one day I wake up, and having 100 miles is enough to drive to work and back, and some days it's barely enough to make it there. Same commute, same traffic, same weather, same temperature, same time, same style of driving because I use drive-assist 95% of the time, same everything, but drastically different results. So, whatever estimated range the car gives me, I know it's wrong. The 140 miles at 80% are meaningless if you never even get close to them, and have to scramble to find a Lvl. 3 charging station to make it home or to work.

[@達端藍]

@@SuperDarioWorldPodcast Did you buy the bZ4X without considering the "props and cons" explained in many videos? This car is for commuting and charging at home every night. If you're going on long road-trips, you shouldn't buy it, or you should have another ICE.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

@@達端藍 I did consider them. The original plan was to use the year of free charging Toyota gives you with EVGo while I saved up to install a Lvl 2 at home. However, EVGo only let's you charge an hour at a time before you have to manually plug it back in again in order for it to restart, which makes it next to useless for a Lvl 2 charger, unless you have one less than 50 feet away.

[@5551NE]

It's a joke Toyota launched this car and harmed the unique trust I had in Toyota.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Dude, tell me about it. My first car was a 99 Tacoma and I loved the thing, got it after it was almost a decade old and it ran without issue for almost a decade more. It's super disappointing to see how low the standards of this company have dropped.

[@yo2trader539]

It's a compliance car they need to sell to meet California regulations. Otherwise they cannot sell in California. The other purpose is to reduce carbon credit payments. Toyota doesn't make any money in this model, so they designed so that it won't be a commercial success. It's a car they rather not sell under free market conditions, but they have to meet US government regulations.

[@briangilbride7596]

been there done that. exact same story/ 2025 BZ4X gave it back to dealer with 800 miles! except they had sold my perfect Rav4 hybrid w/40K miles. and got righteously hosed. it died for no reason middle of nowhere and had a 1500$ tow. bought another hybrid.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

That's brutal, dude. Sorry to hear that happened to you, but happy to hear you no longer have to deal with the BZ4X

[@adrinavarro320]

Estimated range vs. actual range is one thing; battery deterioration is a different thing. The first is affected by (1) how conservative or optimistic the car is regarding future energy usage, and (b) how efficient the car is. The 2nd is affected, on the long run, by a bunch of things like battery thermal management, fast charging very often, doing many battery cycles, etc. But that's over the very long term, not in weeks or months! Batteries are quite good now, so even if Toyota is crap at doing EVs, I find it hard to think the battery has degraded! To me, the big issue here is that the car thinks you'll use less energy per mile than you end up actually using. Probably because of two things: Toyota is unrealistic about the car's energy usage, AND you're probably doing the "worst case scenario" approach, which involves high-speed on the open road, as opposed to more moderate speeds with regen in the city and around town. So, assuming the battery is OK (I would think it is!), it all boils down to the car having a small battery AND not being super efficient AND you having a commute using way more energy per mile than the car initially estimated. I can suggest a few things to try: - Home charging, if possible - no more charging every day! You wake up and your car is topped up, that's the whole point of EVs. Fast charge is intended for trips, but should not be a daily thing, especially if the car isn't very good at fast charging like this one. - Looking at actual battery percentages & energy usage per mile, building your own "mental approach" depending on intended usage, and entirely ignoring the range estimates the car provides. - Lowering your average commute speed a bit, e.g. by 5mph, for better energy efficiency - hypermile if you can. Toyota is late to the party with a mediocre EV, but it's also an incredibly cheap one, so if you CAN take advantage in the right way, it can be well worth it.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Thanks for the breakdown and the tips. -Unfortunately, due to how quickly the car drains the battery, Lvl 1 charging does not cut it, even if I charge it at work and at home, which I do. I'm currently working on getting a Level 2 charger at home, which will hopefully remedy this situation. However, since Toyota gave me a year of free charging via EV Go, I assumed I would have a year to save money and get this done. However, fun fact, EV Go automatically stops your session after 1 hour, and you need to physically unplug from their chargers and plug it back in to get it to start again, which makes their Level 2 charger next to useless, unless you have one super close by. The nearest one I have is a mile away, so I originally planned on leaving my car there to charge, taking my bike to work, then come back during my break 5 hours later to pick it up. Which would have been great, except the hour time limit ruins it, because I can't take a 10-15min round trip every single hour to unplug and plug back so it can continue charging. -I track basically every single mile I drive, and put all the data in a nice google sheet. The problem is the inconsistency. Sometimes the estimate is right on the money, usually it's wrong by 15-20% on average. It's impossible to calculate that way. Because, as averages work, one day it will be exactly what it says (underperformance of 0%) and the next it'll be under by 40%. It's impossible to plan a commute that way. -This I can try. I usually just have it on drive assist, which keeps me on par with traffic, but I can bring it down by 5mph and see what happens. Thanks again!

[@AlexanderTanned]

The deterioration you are seeing in that battery, 17% in a week, if true, justifies a warranty claim. Most Teslas (and this is public information they have available) have an average deterioration of 15% over 300.000 miles.

[@carknew]

There is another HUGE variable though, the driver's driving style. The range drop is probably just the car learning and changing parameters based on how this guy drives his car. It is pretty much impossible to deteriorate that fast unless there is a catastrophic defect which somehow did not trigger any error code. We can argue though, that Toyota made the range calculation equation far too optimistic, and that the BZ4X can not reach its estimated range outside nearly perfect conditions.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

thanks for the info!

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

In the same commute, same time, same traffic, same weather, same temperature, same almost everything because I use drive asssit, I've gotten drastically different results. It's had a year to learn how I drive, and it's still consistently wrong by 15-20% on average, that's on top of the 8-10% it takes for AC, and on top of all the miles it's lost from the total estimated range.

[@Pal-nl7he]

Why is it the second best liked electric car among consumers in Norway then? Source: Autoindex 2024. Almost all new cars in Norway are 100 % electric, and almost everybody charges at home so fast charging doesn't mean much. I listen less and less to car testers...

[@MarshallC.]

Thank you for making this video to inform people. Everyone should do this with any product or service they feel sucks.

[@rob2020-wz6ru]

Who's not getting it? It was the best selling EV in Norway in January, February, March and again in October. Norway is the number one EV country in the world. A lot of EV's to choose from, and the bZ4X is selling like hot cake.

[@fkporsche1]

Toyota should never put this vehicle on the market. It has ruins Toyota reputation badly.

[@mikeepogeeee]

I don't think so. If you are a Toyota guy. The bad performance of this EV didn't reflect other models. IMHO.

[@miraphycs7377]

In Norway's ownership survey Autoindex 2024 (the car 40 %, seller/purchase 20 %, workshop service 20 % and brand loyalty 20 %), Toyota BZ4X was the second best ranked electric car. The Lexus UX 300e had similar, high evaluation by owners previously despite being harshly criticized by some journalists when launched. Other Toyota BZ4X tests in Norway: Clearly best electric car in snow and braking. Tesla-Bjørn: Very good automatic self-parking. Common evaluation of Toyota BZ4X by car journalists: "This car behind competition and not good enough for the price". Owners: "Hmm, I kind of like it and the ownership experience anyhow". Who should we trust...

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I can only speak to my experience, and it has been terrible. It hasn't been anywhere near what Toyota promised me. If you wanna waste your money on it, go ahead, best of luck to you. I hope it's everything you wanted and more. If it doesn't, well, can't say you weren't warned.

[@railwaystuff]

shame on Toyota for releasing the car first Ando putting it on Production, and only later admit they "weren't ready" for EV's. Shame on Toyota.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

It's really sad, because I had a 99 Tacoma, which I loved and ran for almost 20 years without issue. So to see this brand's quality and standard's drop so low is beyond disappointing.

[@jaybou007]

Meanwhile, my guess-o-meter went way up since I got the car a month ago. I can easily get 380-400 km without even trying, getting 115-130 kw of charging speed at 180 kw chargers. But since you seem like someone who knows a thing or two about cars, tough to understand…the range you get is reeeeally low. Even if you drove the thing like a jackass, it won’t explain the charging speed you get. An hour?! Nah, I can normally reach 80% in 30-35 minutes if I get to the charger at 15-20%. Then again, I got the ‘24 model. Was yours the ‘23? I’ve been told the updates on the ‘24 make an enormous difference.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Yes, I had the 2023

[@jaybou007]

@ I guess that’s why. Personally, and we reached that moment of the year temperatures drop significantly, I have zero problem getting a steady 70-80 kWh (between 10 and 70%) of recharge on a 100 kW charger. It drops to 55-65 for the 70 to 80% portion. In clear terms, I leave the station about 3 minutes after your generic Tesla. More than fine.

[@commanderbernhardt5317]

I own a Solterra (15 months and counting) and I can't relate to any of your reported issues (slower L3 charge speeds notwithstanding, but I knew that going into it and I never L3 charge so that was a non-factor to me). If your battery is performing that alarmingly, I can only suggest that you might have got a lemon. Our experiences are not remotely the same. For what it's worth, I have no regrets over my Solterra and it has been nothing short of excellent for me.

[@hadisoewoyo8739]

thiis video shows why toyota cant compete in ev but sell at high price

[@horsepowerandtalk1033]

Toyota poduced this car to prove EVs are not a good idea. Toyota can't fix the wireless charger or self dimming rear vie mirror. They think poorly performing or designed components are a feature.

[@AprilStaines]

Given Toyota's anti- EV stance it wouldn't surprise me if this was by design

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I've heard quite a few conspiracy theories about that, but I can't speak to their veracity. I can only speak to my experience with the car, which has been terrible.

[@carknew]

The car is probably just adjusting to your driving style and changing range estimations based on that. My guess is that the initial estimations of about 250 were far too optimistic and impossible outside perfect conditions.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

The car's had a year to adjust to my style, and it's still consistently wrong by 15-20% on average, and that's on top of the 8-10% it takes for the AC (which I don't love, but don't count against it). It's been the same commute, using drive assist, same hours, same traffic, same everything, and I still don't know if I will make it to work or not when the car says it has 20-40 miles more of estimated range than the distance of my commute.

[@oilerlord7367]

I have a 2023 BZ4X limited / awd. Yes, anyone can get 250 miles of range out of the 64.5 kW (usable) battery in this car. Just drive conservatively, and at 75F, climate control on "eco". If none of this happens, you can be down to 200 miles pretty quick. This is just another case of a guy that didn't do his research, on EV's then blames the car for his own ignorance.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

@@oilerlord7367 I drove on Eco and used drive-assist to keep up with traffic. It was consistently underperforming on average by 20%, and that's after the "adaptation" took place. Also, I may be stupid, but I'm not ignorant. I did my research and have a year's worth of data collecting before I reached my conclusions. They are all documented and easily verifiable. It's not my fault Toyota overpromised and underdelivered by almost 50%, it's theirs.

[@aultraman]

I got a model Y instead of other EV's (including the BZ4X) mostly because I wanted the ability to do road trips. I didn't know the BZ4X was this terrible until I saw your video. Best of luck to you.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Thanks. And yeah, I originally got it over the Tesla because I like going camping and fishing and stuff like that. But I've never taken it out of the city, I don't trust it to get me back home

[@wwskaczmarek]

I’d rather buy a Tesla. They know how to build EVs

[@alexisperez4100]

Power to you for letting us know.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Thanks. Happy to help!

[@oilerlord7367]

Best way to get clicks, likes, and subscribes - put the hate on a car even if you know very little about the car you're hating on Then hope you'll get people other like minds to parrot the hate to someone else

[@ArtuurFrituur]

Honest review

[@Unbought]

I wanted this car but chose to go with something else. An industry leader. I couldn’t be happier.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Glad to hear you avoided it. Lucky you!

[@andydeleon9653]

Well I love the car and for me is perfect, ppl will always hate

[@TheBobcatmaster]

i got the FWD and i get 318m in a full charge. I'm happy with it. i looked at higher grades but i wasn't happy with the amount of miles they were offering. why lose range for the sake of having a bigger screen or all wheel drive. Thanks

[@henkkaj73]

While one could easily point out that the range estimate on your dash changes as the computer adjusts to your driving style - yes it will be lower if you drive mostly at highway speeds - and that has nothing to do with actual battery degregation, it is also true that the only EV that Toyota has coughed up (after wasting a small country's GDP into stubbornly developing ridiculous hydrogen car Mirai that no one buys) is the BZ4X which is indeed DECADES behind everyone else. Every independent car magazine test has been outright appalled at the BZ4X especially since Toyota had traditionally made very decent trusty basic cars well worth their price and BZ4X fits none of those attributes. Even after several updates and all this time, buying a BZ4X it's still like you'd pay for a Benz and receive a 15 year old North Korean prototype. I feel for you, man.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Thanks. And to your first point, "degradation" may not have been the right work, but calling a drop of almost 50% in range an "adjustment" did not feel right either. And even after the "adjustment" the car still underperforms by 15-20% on average, and that's on top of the 8-10% it takes for the AC, which I don't count against it. It's had a year to adjust to my driving style, and it's the same driver, I use drive assist 95% of the time, same commute, mostly same weather, same traffic, same everything, and it's still randomly going to be right on the money, or it'll be under by 40%. It's impossible to plan a commute this way.

[@TigerOwO]

Yeah, I own a 2019 RAV4, local Toyota dealer charged me for $250 for a tire diagnostic and told me there's nothing wrong with the tires which they certainly making wield noise while driving. I have already give up on this brand.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

That's brutal. Sad to see how far the mighty have fallen. They should be embarrassed for charging you just to say "there's nothing wrong," especially when you have evidence that there is.

[@ellisrochlin2267]

Hey guy , dealers are there to make decent money or close their doors for good. I am on your side about the range drop and charging time but as a ev owner most evs on the uk motorway ( say travelling between 60 -70 ish mph eats 3 electric miles for every 2 real journey miles . So a 40 mile motorway journey with no holdups takes close to 60 ev miles off the range , 😢 just sayin.

[@sggsgood]

I don’t trust EV batteries anymore

[@KaiPonte]

Wow, what an amazing car. I love Toyota and own two Lexus SC400 cars. However, this really seems poor. I looked at the BZ4X and decided not only did not have the range I wanted but wasn’t a very good looking car. I bought instead a Ford Mach-e in late ’22. I have 300 miles of range and have had no issues over two years and 34,000 miles. Out of curiosity, did you check the specs before leasing the car? Have you tested actual range testing and not just rely on the guess-o-meter in the car?

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I did check the specs and did research before getting it. However, clearly, I didn't do enough. Toyota did do a full battery test, where they drain it 100%, but I have not been willing to risk driving for too long when the battery is at 0%

[@OneGuyPolitics]

That’s not battery degradation, it’s the car adapting to your driving style (fast roads). That being said you can get EVs with MUCH better range for the same price range

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

The car is consistently wrong by 15-20% on average, that's after the adaptation to my driving style. But fine, maybe the word "degradation" was not the most appropriate, but using "adaptation" to describe a drop of 57 miles of range also didn't seem appropriate. Also, yes, you're probably 100% right, any other EV would have been better

[@citationbob]

It estimates your driving style. Drive like a oinhead, it goes down. Drive conservatively and watch it go up

[@Brian-om2hh]

This car is Toyota's effort at a fully electric car. It's a " here's our EV, take it or leave it". And most buyers have opted to leave it and buy one of the far better and more efficient EV alternatives instead....

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I wish I had been one of those buyers... But oh well, live and learn

[@magnuss2916]

My range eatimate went up after i drove it for a few weeks. It was a demo-car, so probably not driven very economical, it estimated around 180-190 miles when I first got it. After a few weeks it bumped up to 260 miles, which is pretty accurate. I’ve tested it. Its top spec model with AWD

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Glad to hear it worked out for you. For me it's been the exact opposite. And the fact that Toyota refused to fix it, meant that there was nothing to fix, they expected this to happen.

[@tomooo2637]

Just like the 2023 Toyota GR Corolla Circuit that keeps bursting flames during normal driving. Apparently this track car should not be driven above 85mph as it nullifies any warrantee. Tells you what you need to know about Toyota.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

It's really sad to see how low a brand that was known for quality has fallen. And the worst part is that they don't seem to care. The future doesn't look to bright for them if they continue in this direction.

[@billbell3737]

I really feel for you. It is also really good you made others aware how bad it is. My question for you is why did you decide to take a risk on the BZ4X when Tesla provides a well proven EV. It seems like you created this problem.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

One, thank you, I appreciate you saying that. Two, ironically enough, I actually did originally go to that dealership to check out a used Tesla. Three, my first car was a Toyota and I loved the thing, so I was influenced a bit by my nostalgia and trust for the brand. Four, I'm an idiot.

[@Planetside223]

Toyota doesn’t want to build electric cars they’re being forced to by the governments. They’ve already stated that they can build something like nine hybrid vehicles or gas powered vehicles for the same resources as one electric car. Building a electric car that nobody wants is a smart move because it means that there will be no demand so that Toyota doesn’t have to build these while simultaneously appeasing the government drones that are forcing all of these electric vehicles into the world.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Well, then I'm going to help Toyota's master plan by making people want it even less!

[@jasonm6231]

so is yours a 2023 or 2024 model? Toyota did say the 2024 should fix the problem, not sure if that's any help.

[@billh3860]

What would you expect from a car shaped like a brick with wheels under it? Can't figure out what people are thinking when they buy these things looking as they do…

[@billh3860]

Tesla owner here and so happy I have skipped the dealership experience with my purchase of a Tesla

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Yeah, yeah... I should have bought the Tesla...

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I wish the issue was the look, that is the least of the problems. I do hate it every time I look at it now though.

[@ad_wang]

Consumer protection in America? In Australia we do. Wow thanks for the advice for every one out there you deserve to be compensated based on evidence, should definitely seek legal advice. Definitely go for the Chinese EV they're way ahead, BYD, zeeker (geely), Xpeng, etc.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Happy to help. And I'll look into those EVs. Thanks!

[@davidp.4727]

I’ve had mine for almost two years without issue. Not perfect but it does everything I need. Can’t say I’ve seen any battery degradation and I have the same mileage as you.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I'm happy it's working out for you, wish I had the same experience, or that Toyota claimed my experience as an outlier.

[@MagnenoExtra]

Jeez, I thought my Ioniq 6 in the summer was bad because of the extreme heat and only getting 2.5 mpkWh, but it is NOWHERE near as bad as that. A year in and the range is even better than it was before (maybe because I learned how to drive the car though...) - All I can say is before you buy an EV, you have to get a home charger. Free electrify America? Its not gonna matter in most situations. You need a level 2 charger to go from zero to 100 overnight otherwise forget it, go get a hybrid. At 45 mpg at 5 dollars a gallon, its 11 cents per mile. If you get 4 miles per kWh and .44 cent fast charging, it's also 11 cents. So do not get an EV unless you have cheap at-home electricity. Fast charging will range from .35-.68

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I'm copying this from an earlier response: Toyota gives you a year of free charging, and there's a Lvl 2 charger a mile from my work. So, the plan was, for a year, charge Lvl 1 at home, and Lvl 2 while at work. In that time, I would save money to get a Lvl 2 charger at home. HOWEVER, the company Toyota gives you a free year with, EV Go, automatically stops charging after an hour, and you have to manually unplug it and replug it back in if you want to get it started again, which makes their Lvl 2 chargers pretty much useless to anybody who's not super close to the charger. On top of that, the car's range went down so quickly, and it constantly underperformed (even the new adapted estimates) by 15-20 on average, and it charges so slow, that using a Lvl 1 charger at home and at work was not enough to make it to work and back every day. So yeah, that plan blew up in my face

[@MagnenoExtra]

@@SuperDarioWorldPodcast I feel you - I'm still using a level 1 at home 🙃 a project allowing for the electrical panel to get the space for a level 2 charger has been delayed half a year now... So I've been stuck on a wall plug for WAY longer than anticipated. It's already hard for a very efficient car, imagine it's absolutely hell with the BZ4X

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

@@MagnenoExtra Sorry to hear your project is being delayed, that really sucks. And yes, it's been brutal. Fortunately it gave me plenty of time to edit my video

[@tonyroe1670]

Nonsense. I have a BZ4X and it drives it drive on a full charge. 550 km charges quickly. Is a joy to drive. I’m on the road. Hours every day. Do U not know there a. 10. Year guarantee. What other Manufacturers. Have the confidence to give this guarantee. 1:39

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

1 - Happy it worked out for you. It did not work out for me, and by Toyota claiming that "there's nothing wrong with my car" means that this is the way they expected the car to behave. Also, I have no idea how you are charging it, but I documented and I took pictures after almost every single charge and those numbers don't lie, the slow charging is the worst part of this vehicle.

[@crepeitup]

omg..i was about to buy this car in the next few days! THANK YOU

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

You're welcome!

[@3kkk514]

More worst during winter

[@yvanlaurendeau]

This guy is probably paid by a competitor! If you want to have a serious analysis watch the EV PULSE video

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

A - Nobody's paying me anything/I don't work for any vehicle manufacturer. B - I did this because I wished this information was available to me when I was looking into getting this vehicle. C - Everything here is documented, and easily verifiable. I have a year's worth of data and pictures to back it all up.

[@Steve-co1ic]

I follow EV news and reviews and the BZ4X has been a Joke since launch

[@sinabagheri7120]

You're completely wrong. Range is calculated based on the car's average consumption. More highway more consumption, more city driving will reduce the average consumption. If you check the range in a gas car, you will see this rule as well. I have got average of 14 kwh/100 km in FWD bz4x , close to the Tesla model y efficiency.

[@Morpheus-pt3wq]

The computer range estimates are just that - estimates. It does not have to mean there is anything wrong with the battery. Have you tried actually fully discharging the car to confirm the accuracy of those estimates? Charging might be slow due to only selected chargers being supported for fast charging. Manufacturers pull this trick a lot. IIRC Tesla has similar "feature", where the range compute is only accurate at 50% or lower and makes up numbers above that.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Yes, the dealership did the full intensive battery test where they completely drained it. But wait, do you mean, keep driving the car until it actually dies on me? Because I haven't tried that yet. I've tried pretty much every charger in the county, and none of them have ever made it over 72 KW of Power while charging, and that 72 only happened once, the average is in the 30s-40s. And I've compared them to other cars charging right beside mine, theirs reach up to 173 kW

[@djaszzydude]

I have one, i like it. your video is a bit manipulative. It's a very good car that will last longer than it competes.

[@johan_bvf]

It would've been quite interesting to see your figures on energy consumption and charging speeds. This doesn't sound like other range tests and reviews I've seen, at least not on the car we get in northern Europe... We're not talking about the greatest EV out there, but this sounds really messed up...

[@Gw49172]

your battery is definitely busted

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

But not according to Toyota! Can't believe my lying eyes according to them

[@mopsxxl4769]

Never ever buy a Toyota EV - of course never from dubious dealer Cole Lowenfield.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Amen!

[@liveandletlift370]

Yeah, if you are buying it based on Toyota's marketing materials (which is a horrible idea with any product) without understanding how range estimates on EVs work, you will be disappointed. It definitely isn't degradation, I recommend doing some research in that area. It definitely has some big limitations, but it is a still a very good deal at the current price point here in Europe, as long as you know what you are getting into. That obviously wasn't your case.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Maybe "degradation" was not the right word, but using "adaptation" to describe an almost 50% drop in range did not feel appropriate either. I didn't fall for the marketing, I dumbly believed that the Toyota brand stood for quality, because of the nostalgic love I had for my first car, which was a Toyota

[@adamcook4122]

Good video. When are you getting a Tesla?

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Good God, don't rub it in, I actually went in to that dealership to checkout a used Tesla. I kick myself constantly about it

[@avdp9095]

Actually a very nice and efficient EV...we have 2 in our businessfleet. Range is 385 km in summer, nit bad at all, winter 300km. We can charge at our office, at home. It has 10 years warranty and is very comfortable and sharp lease. Don't see the provlem and not the worst EV on the market at all, complete nonsense

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Glad they worked out for you. It has not for me, and it was not treated as an outlier by the manufacturer. I've never even sniffed 300km in Summer. I've also tracked basically every single mile I've driven, and have taken pictures of the dashboard before and after every drive. I have more than enough data to prove every single claim I made.

[@logividarsson9031]

I think the BZ4X is going to be one of those EVs that make a lot more sense used rather than new, time will tell.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I'll put it to you this way, even if they offered it for free, I wouldn't keep it.

[@yo2trader539]

Toyota never said any of things you've mentioned, at least in Japan. It was their first attempt at a BEV. And Toyota doesn't make any money in selling BZ4X, so it's not a model they want to sell in large volume. Toyota's main BEV platform will be ready with Solid-State Batteries in the 2027 period. And the slow charging is to preserve battery life.

[@catherinegrimes2308]

Are you sure that Toyota will be ready with solid-state batteries in 2027?

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I can't speak for what they do in Japan, but Toyota said all those things to me, and all the range and battery information is easily found on their US website. Feel free to compare the Japan and US one, and let me know how they differ.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Maybe they will, but I wouldn't risk it. They lost all good faith with me.

[@yo2trader539]

@@catherinegrimes2308 Nobody knows for sure, but that has been the media reports in Japan. However, things may slightly change as: (1) US will be banning Chinese-origin hardware and software in the coming years; and (2) EV sales growth trajectory is lower than anticipated, even for Toyota who had one of the most conservative outlooks. Regardless whether it's a German, Japanese, or US automaker, the truth is there are certain components, chips, and software that are currently used in their BEV models that have tangential Chinese connections. Automakers now have to carefully review all of their components and software for their upcoming models. Usually, they negotiate with component suppliers for models that will be sold in 2 to 3 years from now. Which actually is why the US government gave a few years of lead time to enforce the ban. Toyota bought-out one of the Joint-Ventures with Panasonic and renamed it "Toyota Batteries." But media reports suggest its battery production will mostly be focusing on hybrids for the time-being. (Around 40%-50% of global new car sales for Toyota as well as Honda are currently hybrids, and expanding battery production capacity is a priority.) When there will be mass-production for Solid-State Batteries, Japanese media will usually report details on which firm, at what plant, and on how much investment or daily volume there will be. Nothing has been reported in Japan so far on SSB production. It's cutting edge technology with a lot of secrecy, and it's also Joint-Venture development project with Idemitsu...which is why there is not much information coming out. Toyota also recently announced it will delay EV production in the US by 6-12 months, at least until 2026 period due to slower than anticipated adoption rate. The company is building a US$14bn battery production site in North Carolina, which will supply batteries for hybrids, plug-in hybrids, and BEVs produced in North Americans plants. Low volume production will start in early 2025, and will be fully completed by 2030. That said, given how much demand there is for Hybrids, I suspect they'll be prioritizing batteries for Hybrid production for the time being.

[@catherinegrimes2308]

@@yo2trader539 I wrote my comment because Toyota has been claiming that their SSBs are only a few years away for some time. It is interesting what you wrote about China being excluded from the US, because I heard that Toyota will be using BYD drivetrains in their future hybrids. The US is becoming very protectionist with regard to China and I think that the US car industry will only supply the US in the future. Maybe Japan will only supply Japan as well. I think that the overseas markets for both countries car industries will dwindle. Toyota could find that it will be locked out of Europe because in the UK and EU, all new cars must be EVs by 2035. It was 2030 by was moved back. The UK Government is thinking moving it back to 2030, Nissan UK should be all EV by then. If you want to see a very interesting KZbin video about the Japanese car industry have a look at the video titled: Harakiri - Who KILLED the Japanese Car Industry? (It starts with a "C") You may be surprised with the "C". Two days ago I saw my first BZ4X and felt sorry for the owner. It may have been a company car because there is a Toyota factory close to where I live.

[@sasha13]

I hate dealership feel for u man !!!

[@tonyroe1670]

Toyota B Z 4. X. Has a guarantee of one million KM and ten year guarantee. Best Car out there. What other profit driven. Car Manufacturers have the guts to do this. Silence. Wringers. Wise up 0:34

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Are you high? Where in hell did you see that toyota has a guarantee up to 1 million Km? The best I've seen they have is 10 years OR 100,000 miles (160,934.4km)

[@akubel33t]

Hello! That’s really awful! Have you tried driving much slower in the highway? Maybe around 55mph max behind another slow vehicle like a truck ?

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I use drive assist 95% of the time, so the car automatically keeps up with traffic. Also, you can get a ticket for driving too slow on the highway.

[@akubel33t]

@@SuperDarioWorldPodcast ah I see

[@iljapetroff]

It seems like the issues you're facing stem from switching from an ICE (internal combustion engine) vehicle to an EV without fully understanding if an electric vehicle fits your lifestyle. The challenges you describe aren’t unique to the Toyota BZ4X but apply to many EVs. Some EVs handle these issues better than others, but the underlying principles remain the same. First, how did you determine that the range drop displayed on your dashboard is due to battery degradation? In most EVs, the estimated range adapts based on your driving style, recent trips, and road conditions. It's important to remember that WLTP ranges (the standard used to measure EV range) are based on ideal conditions-without air conditioning, in optimal weather, and with efficient driving. For example, I have a friend with a Model S Performance, and due to his aggressive driving style, he only gets around 60 miles of range. It also seems that you didn’t thoroughly research the BZ4X before buying it. In one scenario, you mention having only 60 miles of range left, and I noticed your average speed was quite high, indicating you were on the highway. Highway driving significantly reduces range for any EV. Even Teslas, known for their range, can lose around 50% of their expected range when driving on highways with the AC on. So, it’s not surprising that Toyota’s range is similarly impacted. Regarding charging, Toyota advises against frequent use of fast chargers because it can lead to throttled charging speeds over time. This information is publicly available, and it’s generally recommended to rely on home charging for day-to-day use. It seems like you don’t have a home charger installed, which raises the question: why purchase any EV, let alone the BZ4X, without having a reliable home charging setup? One of the biggest advantages of EVs is the ability to conveniently charge at home. Finally, you mentioned that the Toyota Limited model should offer 242 miles of range. However, based on the video you shared, it looks like you have the AWD version, which has a lower range of 222 miles. Additionally, AWD models have a maximum charging speed of 50 kW, while the FWD version can charge at 150 kW. Again, this is publicly available information that should have been part of your research before purchasing.

[@bimsetre]

@Ilja Petrov Except for the charging speed of the AWD version, you are quite right. The AWD version charges at the same speed as the FWD. Anyways the BZ4X is still a stupid EV, and in cold weather it is even more stupid. It should not surprise anyone, that Toyota is two or three generations behind, as Toyota has always been two or three generations behind. It is now, and has long been, Toyotas mantra to stay behind, and leave all the trouble with new technology to everyone else. Hence Toyota cars are mostly troublefree, underpowered and boring cars driven by the elderly. I once owned a Toyota when I was in my therties, and it really made me feel old. Now I´m in my sixties, but I still don´t feel old enough to buy another Toyota 🙂. Anyways in my country Toyota almost only sells hybrids, and they are even worse, and the fact that more than 50% of all new cars sold here are EV´s, and soon it will be impossible to drive IC´s into larger cities, makes Toyota a stupid choise. The climate here calls for very good protection of the body, as rust easily becomes a serious problem. In this regard japanese cars are generally problematic. So IMHO the conclusion of the video isn´t that wrong. Almost any other EV on the market today is better than BZ4X, which in fact isn´t really a Toyota, but a rebadged slightly customized chinese platform pimped a little bit with Toyota make-up.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

First, I agree that I should have done more research, specifically about the BZ4X, clearly. However, based on the information that was available at the time, most reviews said that the car was good, though it underperformed a little compared to other EVs, but nobody went into specifics. To me, a little meant 5-10% tops, not almost 50% compared to what they advertised. That's one of the reasons I made this video, so people can be fully informed about the issue, and there can be no doubt about what "a little" meant. Second, Toyota gives you a year of free charging, and there's a Lvl 2 charger a mile from my work. So, the plan was, for a year, charge Lvl 1 at home, and Lvl 2 while at work. In that time, I would save money to get a Lvl 2 charger at home. HOWEVER, the company Toyota gives you a free year with, EV Go, automatically stops charging after an hour, and you have to manually unplug it and replug it back in if you want to get it started again, which makes their Lvl 2 chargers pretty much useless to anybody who's not super close to the charger. On top of that, the car's range went down so quickly, and it constantly underperformed (even the new adapted estimates) by 15-20 on average, and it charges so slow, that using a Lvl 1 charger at home and at work was not enough to make it to work and back every day. Third, maybe "degradation" was not the correct term, but using "adaptation" to refer to a drop of 57 miles of range seemed wrong as well. Finally, Toyota claims that it should take 35 minutes to go from 9% to 80% for AWD

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I did not know that was their policy, but it makes perfect sense. And yeah, it did seem like a safe bet to take because they don't take many risks, but as you said, I ended up looking stupid. I'm never trusting this brand for quality ever again. Hopefully my mistake can help people avoid this pit in the future.

[@worktopP-ue7it]

Only Tesla for evs for hybrid ok maybe Toyota or Honda

[@jansenwilder1335]

Get a Byd, Xpeng, Zeekr ... Chinese EV 😂

[@laflammr]

I own one and love it. None of the problems quoted affected me. so your video is junk to me.

[@halitosis75]

I.would be returning the car immediately

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

It's an ongoing process

[@akubel33t]

Hello! That’s really awful! Have you tried driving much slower in the highway? Maybe around 55mph max behind another slow vehicle like a truck ? Seems like you got a really bad BZ4X

[@catherinegrimes2308]

Are there good ones?

[@akubel33t]

@@catherinegrimes2308 No idea. I believe what he’s saying, I just wonder if he got a lemon, or they are all garbage !

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

According to Toyota, there's nothing wrong with my car, so I can only assume they are all like this

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I use drive assist 95% of the time, so the car automatically keeps up with traffic. Also, you can get a ticket for driving too slow on the highway.

[@hadtobe4502]

Is Toyota's BZ4X the Worst EV in the Market? - YES

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Amen

[@joeyabb1965]

What a crock. I’ve owned the Subaru Solterra for a year and have seen ZERO battery degradation. Let’s see if the KZbin block works….

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Don't have any experience with the Subaru Soltera, I've never driven one. This video is 100% based on my experience after driving this vehicle for a year. Everything here is documented, and easily verifiable. I have a year's worth of data and pictures to back it all up.

[@joeyabb1965]

@@SuperDarioWorldPodcast Inaccurate data is inaccurate regardless of it being verifiable. All you end up is verifiable junk. The Solterra and BZ4X are mechanically identical. Same battery and inner workings.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I agree with you, the car is verifiable junk.

[@joeyabb1965]

@@SuperDarioWorldPodcast Says the guy who doesn’t own the vehicle, spent very little time with the car and his views and channel growth are verifiable junk.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

@@joeyabb1965 Says the guy who spent the worst year of his life driving the car. And I don't care about views and growth on KZbin, this has always been more like a form of therapy for me

[@scottsmith2173]

I am in no way an EV fan. The on-board computer showing less miles does not necessarily mean battery degradation. The are a few possible reasons for this.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I tried to make this video as short as possible, so I had to cut out A LOT of information, but I'm sure I can answer any of the possible reasons you might think of. Off the top of my head. Driving pattern? I use drive assist 95% of the time, it's usually the same commute, at the same time, no drastic weather changes, minimal temperature changes, similar traffic conditions, and drastically different results every drive. Consistently underperforming on average by 15-20% (even after the current range adjustment). Driving with the AC on? The car automatically takes away 8-10% of the car's total range when you turn it on, so if it takes that 8-10% off already, and still underperforms by 15-20%, then the AC can't be the reason why it's burning off more miles than it should. The temperature? I live in SoCal, weather's great 90% of the time. If you think of anything else let me know and I'll clarify it. Or who knows, maybe you've found something I never even thought of that could solve my issues.

[@waynerm002]

@@SuperDarioWorldPodcastI have a couple of questions, how fast do you drive on your commute? Does your vehicle show a mi/kWh rating, it would be good to know these numbers. I had an Audi e-tron with 222 miles of range, EV range is a combination of city and highway estimate, in ideal conditions. I lived in AZ where I saw @250 miles , that’s actual driven + estimated remaining, with 15% charge before charging at home, when driven in cool temps, driving local roads to work with no AC. In the summer heat, it would be under 200 miles. On highway drives to CA, keeping up with traffic @ 80-90, it’s between 174-186 estimated. I got over treating it like a gas car to get the max range from the battery and charge when close to 20% or above on long trips (20-80% is where the car does it’s stated charge time) and used the map to plan my trips, allowing the car to pre-cool or pre-heat the battery, prior to arriving at a charging point. Fast charging isn’t good for the battery long term and the less costly way is to charge at home overnight with a level 2 charger, when needed. Once I got my level 2 charger installed, I used fast chargers for road trips. Some advice: 1. Drive at 70mph or 65 (forgot what CA speed limit is) for a week or 2, constant speed, monitor you mile/kWh gauge for rating (less is more efficient) 2. Use the navigation system to select route to fast charge station and only charge to 80% 3. If you can take local streets, try that as well for a few days. 4. Report back on your results Once you get the level 2 charger, only use that for your commute, again charge only to 80%. Local streets will have you braking more, where the car will do some regeneration to put energy in the battery. On highways, brake earlier and longer, to use more of the regeneration system and less of the service brakes. EV’s require a different method of driving compared to an ICE vehicle. If you drive behind Teslas, it seems like the driver is always braking. Tesla drivers use 1 pedal driving and when they lift off the accelerator, the cars starts to regen, which turns on the brake light and adds some charge. Let us know how things turn out once you have had an opportunity to follow the recommendations above.

[@UKkenny]

another 'tesla killer' 🤣

[@nickgsj]

I sold my Tesla M3 and bought a BZ4X, much better build quality.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Glad it's working out for you. I've never owned or driven an M3, so I can't really compare.

LOL!

[@zaraizara2794]

this thing is byd. toyota only on its name because japan dont know how to make ev.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I'm gonna have to look that up. Thanks for the tip!

[@racingjason]

The car is terrible, but most of this "data" is so far from accurate.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I've tracked pretty much every single mile I've driven. Distance, time, miles burned, miles estimated, temperature, etc. I take pictures of my dashboard whenever I start the car and turn it off, which displays all of this information, and put it on a google sheet. Say what you want of my conclusion, but all the data presented is accurate, and verifiable. Also yes, the car is terrible.

[@contra_plano]

Toyota is the Kodak or Nokia. Why did you buy that car? To suffer?

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Clearly, because I'm not very smart.

[@PanicStation1337]

burned in subtitles are camcer for poeple with dislexia. pls dont doo this in the future.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I did not know this. I used to work in subtitles, and there's a lot of data showing that it's better to have them cause most people don't have their volume on while scrolling and this helps attract attention. I do apologize for the potential cancer though.

[@Diminisherrr]

@@SuperDarioWorldPodcast Great response, to a pretty good bait comment. No real sober human types like that, unless he has waaay more problems than just being dyslectic 😂😂

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

@@Diminisherrr I never assume people on the internet are ever sober 😂

[@uJemai]

I cannot believe defending an ev, have you ever drive a car? Range depends on how you use it. I hate evs btw.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

haha yes, I have driven a car before. And I did go into this expecting their numbers to be off by maybe 5-10%, not almost 50%. That was insane to me.

[@tonyroe1670]

Best get headed out of sand u promoting another model of EV last Toyota I. Had. I put. Crazy miles on. Drove it for 16 years. Toyota are there. More than most. Developing. And all copy them. Stop finding your self. It’s the way to go for progress I’ve drove all makes of cars. There the best car in road. Look at they guarantee. 4:03

[@jasonm6231]

maybe you had a faulty battery.

[@軍曹-n6j]

Here in Japan, there has not been a single fire incident involving a Japanese-made EV. The batteries (Toyota-Panasonic, GS-Yuasa) used in Toyota, Nissan, and Mitsubishi EVs are all made in Japan. Japan's newest submarine (Taigei class) also Adopt and equpped lithium batteries (GS-Yuasa). An EV spontaneously combusted and caught fire at an Audi dealer's garage, destroying eight vehicles. Since it was an Audi, I assume the batteries were made in Korea.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

So, you're saying the issue is with the batteries that are not made in Japan? Interesting. I'm gonna have to look deeper into that. Thanks for the info!

[@laflammr]

I orne one and you are full of it.

[@Dreamer10888]

Like omg u got a b kidin me

[@n1vca]

Toyota makes some of the most reliable cars in the world, but I'd never have thought that they are selling such crappy EVs. Here in Germany once I saw one at a charging station and the guy said that he already tried my side of the charge port and it was dead, then I plugged in my cheapy Kia Niro EV and it worked perfect. I have so much respect for the quality of Toyota, Lexus and Subaru, but how could they use such shitty batteries or not condition them correctly is completely unexplainable. There is a compatible Subaru EV out, I wonder if it is the same expensive design mistake? Get an Hyundai Ionic6, which sets a record for charging miles per minute, because it uses 800V technology and with its low drag aerodynamics, its exceptionally efficient and beats Tesla.

[@oilerlord7367]

Wow, so much misinformation in this video. Clearly you're new to EV's with a lot of research to do. Your battery isn't depreciating, you're likely driving like you stole it and the guess-O-meter is...well...guessing like it does. Most EPA range numbers are based on conservative driving habits. You won't get anything close to EPA figures in any EV when you constantly hammer the accelerator. Also, with climate control on (especially the heater), range drops too. That's just how EV's work...they don't have heater cores like your Mazda does.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I document almost every single mile I drove, and took pictures of my dashboard before and after almost every drive. Every single claim I make on this vehicle is easily verifiable. And sure, maybe "degradation" wasn't the right word, but using "adaptation" to describe an almost 50% in drop didn't feel right either. Also, I use drive assist almost 95% of the time, it was the same commute, same traffic, same weather, same almost everything, and the car would sometimes be right on the money in terms of estimated range, and sometimes it would be under by 40%, and that's after the "adaptation" took place. It's impossible to plan a commute with this thing.

[@sakle]

This video is a joke. You give a wrong information to the people. I have subaru solterra, witch is basicly a same car. It doesn't behave like this. The battery capacity has not decreased, but the range is calculated from your previous trips. The same amount of kwh is charged to the battery there. It's better for the car to tell you the driving style-like range than always optimistically with the maximum range full, if your driving style doesn't reach it. this car consumes, at least in the summer, exactly the same consumption as most of the ev competitors.

[@peterkauss5852]

Right.

[@Diminisherrr]

Make a sensible argument for why the car takes an hour to charge with a 200kw charger?

[@sakle]

It doesn't. In europe we have panasonic battery back with 150kw charging speed. It takes 30-35 min from 10% to 80% at my24 ​@@Diminisherrr

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

If the car has had a year to adjust to by driving style, and that adjustment led to the range dropping by over 50 miles, then why does it still constantly underperform by 15-20% in the same commute, same traffic, same everything? I've speak with the driver's of other EV vehicles almost every single time I use a Level 3 charger, BZ4X drivers are as unhappy as I am, and the jaws of other EV driver's hit the floor when they hear about my experience with the BZ4X. It's also really fun to compare their charging speeds to mine, which is usually under by half, if not more.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I guess we don't have those here in the US. I would do anything to have my car charge anywhere near that fast instead of wasting over an hour of my life every single day doing it. But at least it gave me time to edit the video, so it's not a total loss

[@kendavis8647]

I'm not buying any EV.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

They are not for everyone. And this one for sure left a terrible taste in my mouth

[@azozazoz4117]

BUY Polestar

[@rrikadze]

Don't believe it

[@TimBorg]

Only Japan makes the best Ev's This is the best SUV EV in the world everything this guy is saying is lies, all you have to do is put your foot down to run out of the battery charge on any EV, its his fault for hooning and driving too fast for sure

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

This is the worst car I've ever had. If you're saying it's the best SUV EV in the world, then thank you for helping people know to avoid all SUV EVs from now on.

[@AnnetGarriva]

Everything that is said in this form does not correspond to reality. BZ4X all-wheel drive 250 miles power reserve with air conditioning on. I charge 2 times a week, with an average mileage of 80 miles per day. Wheels r18. I use the car all the time, sometimes I don't turn it off for hours. Security assistants work for all the money for this car. In many countries, the bz4x is loved, a very reliable car. Charging is slower than usual, this is done specifically to conserve the battery. A gorgeous car. I advise everyone.

[@TimBorg]

Thanks for reporting Issue Misinformation Timestamp selected 1:42 Additional details everything this guy is saying is lies, all you have to do is put your foot down to run out of the battery charge on any EV, its his fault for hooning and driving too fast for sure If we find this content to be in violation of our Community Guidelines, we will remove it.

[@Diminisherrr]

That's actually a really funny ragebait. But I'm not in the mood today.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

LOL, you chose the timestamp at the point where I'm reading something directly from the Tesla website. How can that be "misinformation"? Thank you for attracting attention to that point in the video though. I've kept track and documented almost every single mile driven with this vehicle, so thing I say is easily verifiable. As far as I driving goes, 95% of the time I use the drive assist, so the car's automatically keeping up with traffic, and traffic usually sucks down here. It's not my fault Toyota made a car that's range deteriorated like crazy, and that consistently underperforms by 20% even after that deterioration happened. That's them building a terrible car.

[@peterpowers4851]

Don't buy any EV, not just from Toyota. They all are absolutely horrible for the environment and they are very inconvenient to live with, and will cost you way more in the long run.

[@devindykstra]

My model 3 uses no cobalt, charges at home using cheap power from a 110 outlet, and hasn't required any maintenance in months. It's not for everyone, but for many it's a huge savings.

[@racingjason]

You obviously know nothing about EVs aside from what you see in Facebook posts made by boomers.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I can't speak for all EVs, I can only speak for my experience with this one. But based on the terrible taste it's left in my mouth, I'm not inclined to get another one ever again.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

Alright, FINE! I should have bought a Tesla

[@digital-experiance2390]

Really bad video and a lot of wrong infos. Please inform yourself before making this type of video. Should be deleted!

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

One, I can make whatever kind of video I want. Two, and I'm copying this from another response cause I don't feel like writing it again: I've tracked pretty much every single mile I've driven. Distance, time, miles burned, miles estimated, temperature, etc. I take pictures of my dashboard whenever I start the car and turn it off, which displays all of this information, and put it on a google sheet. Say what you want of my conclusion, but all the data presented is accurate, and verifiable. Three, please inform yourself before making comments. Should be deleted!

[@branmuffn]

This guy probably worked on the BZ4X at Toyota 😂

[@digital-experiance2390]

@@SuperDarioWorldPodcast Get a life and invest in education. You have no clue how tech works. Feel free to make those videos and statements but be prepared to be laughed at.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

@@digital-experiance2390 Unlike some people, I put my face and name on it. People can laugh all they want, if this video helps stop even one person from buying that piece of garbage vehicle, or visiting those crooks at Mossy Toyota, then I'll consider it worth it. Also, I have a pretty good life, which the BZ4X tried it's best to ruin, but it failed at that too! And I'm pretty sure that the ones that have no idea how this tech is supposed to work is Toyota, cause otherwise they wouldn't have made such a terrible vehicle.

[@chevroletsonice1248]

Always follow your instinct and stop falling for glossy marketing.

[@SuperDarioWorldPodcast]

I fell for the nostalgic love I had for my first car, which was a Toyota, and the trust I had for the brand because of it

[@chevroletsonice1248]

@SuperDarioWorldPodcast just like VW, Toyota, and other major manufacturers, are falling far behind in EV battery technology. Where 10 years ago, Chinese car manufacturers invested huge amounts of money into R&D. The major car manufacturers have "played around" in the EV space. Now, the Chinese car manufacturers are pushing EV technology by launching in many 3rd world countries to further test their technology. Knowing that many of the other major car manufacturers will slowly seize the production of ICE in the near future as European laws will ban ICE vehicles in the near future. And 3rd World countries won't be able to develop these vehicles.

[@monicapastrana6580]

@toyotausa