Is TSM Still Top Tier Without ImperialHal?! (Scrim Watch Party)

Verhulst goes beastmode, Snipers dominate the killfeed and Genburten gets stuck at the worst possible time.
Timestamps:
00:00 // Intro
00:34 // Storm Point Drop Locations
01:13 // Game 1
06:29 // Game 2
13:03 // Game 3
21:46 // Worlds Edge Drop Locations
22:31 // Game 4
29:45 // Game 5
37:19 // Game 6
44:34 // Overall Scores
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[@sippingTV]

love the inclusion of where everyone’s landing

[@Jelliott_ssb]

It was a recommendation last vid, it’s nice that he takes feed back

[@sippingTV]

@@Jelliott_ssb yeah i saw that i was honestly following up on the comment cause big up with for including it after it was asked for

[@frostrecca1688]

I love how TSM humbled Sweet after all his trash talk 😂

[@saintvickktv_3274]

Saaaaame.

[@HeatherKayagi]

Sweet is such a bad igl, fighting TSM there was a bad play and just threw their match, the fact he shit talks them after is just baffling

[@tylerpetrash9042]

DZ is going to be the favorites moving forward. TSM needs some time with there new 3rd. Only time will tell

[@swabbie2066]

Thats how most teams are but ngl Hal didn't make TSM until the bloodhound bang meta I will say idk how they are going to be with verhulst IGLing but Hal wasn't the reason that team was amazing

[@SilxntDMG]

@@swabbie2066 you’re wrong. Evan and jordan carried half Plenty of times. If Hal was so great why didn’t he go to a different team besides DZ?.. He literally went to the best team in team in NA. DZ don’t need hal to be great. They already were. They even broke all the records before hal amd already have 3 Lan Wins so yeah.

[@begonethot9338]

@@SilxntDMG damn the hate, Hal is the most accomplished IGL in the game, I don't think he needs to prove his worth to everyone, he had to the chance to play with the best and he wanted to feel what it's like playing without restraints of having to IGL and micro manage his teammates, yes reps and evan are both good players but if the last algs showed us anything is that they depend on hal to tell them every move especially at storm points games where he literally does a 150dmg opener stays alive and they do jack shit and reps hit them with the casual 'it's all you guys'

[@sppl623]

thanks captain obvious! all jokes haha

[@T_K_W]

I think people are seriously sleeping on Reps and Verhulst. They are both incredible players in their own right. I'm sure it will be difficult, but expect them to be right up there. Reps especially is one of the most decorated Apex pros in the scene, he isn't just hard carried by Hal.

[@outerspaceisalie]

He consistently has very high damage numbers. People underestimate him.

[@ShockinglyAverageApex]

Hal be getting stuck by an arc in that big ass forehead every single game bro 😂

[@peterjustus3926]

Yanya couldnt catch a break lmao

[@Hijak3]

That map at the beginning is amazing!!! Please do this as much as possible 🙏

[@JohnDoe-lw1sw]

CONGRATS ON 800K YOU BIG MAN YOU ❤

[@PlaceYourWagers]

TSM out scoring LG every game after Sweet talked shit >

[@hopesandlies7652]

TLAW be suffering these past scrims

[@mitchellcarter2799]

What could have bullshit POI is that to get? Horrible system.

[@tristanlwkns]

​​@@mitchellcarter2799There already have been a couple times were teams who got last pick won the game. The new system could still improve massively, but it's still the same for every team out there.

[@TheKachiva]

10:55 the next game 21:26

[@Yoyoyo_gamer]

thanks for covering the TLAW boys

[@vlox6316]

Hey wigg i like the hoodie where did you get it?

[@swabbie2066]

I think Hal joining gen and zero will probably be the best thing for him. He seems to be a lot calmer not being the primary IGL

[@SilxntDMG]

Of Course is the Best thing for him. It would be the best thing for anyone who joined DZ. He joined the best thing. They don’t need hal to be great. Hal couldn’t join any other team he joined the best team. Yet all you guys thing hal is so great

[@MrSenorpepe]

@@SilxntDMGyou’re speaking like a clueless hater. He’s still the best player to ever do it. 5 back to back tourney wins (with reps and alb) and then play offs and champs win? Zero is a great igl but he isn’t the goat. Any team would make room for Hal. He joined up to make a super team and they’ll do amazing no doubt but you’re stupidly hating

[@SilxntDMG]

@@MrSenorpepe not speaking likea a hater just speaking facts. Zero is actually better than hal. Even hal admitted it. Not only a better player but a better IGL. Again, if half was so good why not join another squad? You can defend a guy who doesn’t even know you exist all you wakt but the facts are there buddy

[@m.i.c9992]

@@SilxntDMG bro you are in almost every comment downtalking Hal...YOU are the definition of a hater

[@Instagramlessgreg247]

Hal said clear as day he made the move to play with people he wanted to play with. And the only person he would be willing to have IGL over him is Zero. I’m happy for the guy, clearly carrying TSM for soo long has been weighing on him. Now he can still perform and feel more relaxed when playing. Excited for LAN and World Cup to see how TSM and “DZ” look

[@Steriosity47]

The "Ay" at 16:28

[@oofmon1934]

0:37 Wigg so down bad

[@red.dot.rat.]

0:37 same here man, same here..

[@ShroufeFPS]

Let’s goooo wigg responding to me made a video 😊😊😊

[@user-sx6ke6jj3x]

Lov wigg

[@johnnymolina6344]

Damn bro TLAW struggling😢 hate to see it!!

[@youngparcerostv5738]

I love how sweet is talking shit about tsm not been anything with out Hal but Evan is out here murder his ass

[@sppl623]

mario baseball is so ELITE

[@StiickeeBoi]

Lmfaooo “is he on PEDS”

[@azurechemical]

I think it’ll be an adjustment but they will be fine

[@easyicesack]

Can’t wait to see tsm win lan and hal feel like an idiot

[@testypresidentgaming]

anytime anyone mentions Moist all i hear is *charlies voice with his hands in air* LETS GO BABBYY lol also i cant believe Hal and the gang lost first game to getting stuck lol

[@cay4ord]

TSM win after Sweet tells them to disband is poetic

[@jaeloli3463]

Tsm disband he says, but tsm ranked 1st and 3rd on scrims. LoL

[@Zak22340]

having a pro team called edgers is wild

[@outerspaceisalie]

I mean... tripods?

[@Zak22340]

@@outerspaceisalie doesn’t even come close to

[@xnappy4564]

Yea Evan has been stepping it up a bit for sure

[@outerspaceisalie]

I think losing Hal lit a fire under his ass. We are about to see the legendary Verhulst arc, where he goes from top fragger to slayer mode. We have not seen Evan peak yet, I honestly think he's still just heating up.

[@SundayEdits777]

duuude Jordan was pisssinnggg in game 3

[@outerspaceisalie]

both jordan and evan went crazy that game Proof that TSM still has strong legs to stand on, theyre both absolutely savage players, and everyone knows Zap is a beast too, he was just being a demon on E8. The only thing I'm legit worried about is their fight IGLing. They are doing pretty well without one, but I think that when push comes to shove, one of the boys is going to need to take the reigns. I actually think they're trying to currently play and see who consistently makes the best calls. I think Zap is being a bit timid because he's new, but he might actually be the best IGL of the three lol, Evan and Jordan keep making iffy micro calls although their macro as a team is solid. Zap on the other hand got ignored while making a lot of good micro calls (although he had some stinkers in there too). It does feel like if they had a strong IGL they'd be doing a lot better tbh, but there's no question that Reps and Verhulst can shred a lobby still.

[@nycboy1012]

Anyone else finds it hilarious that sweet always puts his foot in his mouth when he trash talks?

[@1800mexicano]

Im just here for the people arguing about how right they are about TSM and Hal

[@IzayaTijisPrincess]

Not convinced of DZ at all honestly Gen is struggling a bit as of lately imho

[@BobJones-wz7tw]

Hi

[@willsmith4355]

I would like to see tsm excel to the point imperialhal regrets and wants back in but they dont let him. I like hal but he seems like a person that knows how to twist narratives and is a asshole until he gets what he wants.

[@bobbysmudra4118]

You have such a weird para social relationship you sound weird shut up

[@jasan_o3633]

bro never met him a day in his life and came to this conclusion😭😭

[@Oldheadfan]

Nah don't lie to us bro we all know you ain't rooting for TSM or see them improve. You just wanna see Hal fail. Don't worry those majority are on your side on this especially me but try not to be a liar next time.

[@Rice--0]

Everyone in the pro scene said hal is a good person and we got these people saying he's not

[@SilxntDMG]

@@jasan_o3633you never met him a day in his life and you here defending him 😭😭 imagine? I bet you given him money too lol 😂

[@InitialANSR]

The last ALGS, legend meta, Big E switched to a more defensive role. Stuck at the back didn't even get the change to shoot and get damage not to mention sometimes Hal get knocked first. The last thing we know TSM lose. Now, with him roam free every fight and get to make a decision makes his way better than before. If Im not mistaken, theres a discussion where there is Hal, Zach and 3 others pro said that Big E is the best player if Hal not controlling him in every fight. Now I know what they mean.

[@kebosanan1231]

even with Hal it was not a top tier 2024 Lan

[@mrbojangles4155]

Compare 03:45 to when TSM with Hal had the exact same zone and location in the ALGS finals. Reps bang-Ulted their own position and they all died going left. Here, DZ cleaned up. Edit* although, Gen trolled them hard …

[@theocfam5623]

TLAW NEEDS TO DISBAN COMPLETELY. YANYA IS THROWING EVERY FIGHT

[@tareqkhan8636]

LG Sweetdreams talks too much xD. Overrated!

[@nategomes1719]

Evan is still a problema. Ya herd.

[@ntlenvy1614]

Sweat talking shit like he’s actually won something before. If anything he’s proved he’s nothing without NRG… Oh wait didn’t win with them either! Yeah no I like sweat but he’s gotta actually win a big tournament be he can run his mouth like that

[@insecQr]

Sweet has 1 decent 3v3 and thinks he’s top tier.😂 bro fell off bad. Ge should try xdefiant before its full of sweats

[@sxlimx-xr2rx]

Sweet sound like a hater lol

[@stayhiidrated]

can Reps please win a 1v1

[@sppl623]

LG needs to disband, absolutely nothing without yanya

[@tommymoua3274]

simple answer is no

[@logic9436]

THAT INTRO IS SUCH A DIGUSTING CONTROLLER BS THING! MY GOD

[@yurig014]

TSM washed without Hal

[@amazingmagicman1]

🤡🤡🤡

[@bobbysmudra4118]

I mean I won’t say washed just yet but this they’re first two scrims where they did great 1st and 3rd

[@surya_12390]

@@bobbysmudra4118 and then got 18th. Still love them but just saying

[@bobbysmudra4118]

@@surya_12390 I know what you mean but I was just talking about those recent events they were horrible before but been doing decent with zap

[@ajahharris2796]

Hal washed without zero . That's why he left cuz he fell off