I'm going to do a lot more number-crunching shortly, but here is an interesting early find. Domino combos very well with Lockjaw and Baron Zemo. She benefits from Lockjaw's movement ability more than most rapid fire characters (punisher and Winter Soldier can both move on their own using power). She gets more damage out of rerolls and extra dice than any other rapid-fire character and her incinerate helps Baron as well. (assuming 3 defense) If she incinerates on turn one, baron can charge in afterward to hit for an average of 2 with his builder. For his second attack, if he uses the power that all of his dice rerolls, his highest odds are 3 damage instead. (If lockjaw gives an extra dice, his highest odds are tied to do 2 or 3 damage on his builder, and tied to do 3 or 4 damage if he uses his reroll power. If you charge on the first hit and reroll the second, you have a 17% chance to hit for a total of 5 and a 17% chance to hit for 6 damage total. Turn 1 lockjaw "shares" 3 power and keeps one. He moves. Domino moves beside him and incinerates a target. Baron charges in with his long move to hit the target. If he generates two power (and the enemy is within oneshot range), he spends it on master swordsman. Otherwise save it for next round. Here is where it gets nutty on turn 2. Domino, with incinerate and baron's reroll and all of her actions on rapid attacks, she has greater odds of dealing 10 total damage than her odds of dealing any other single number. With lockjaw's extra dice, that number goes up to 12 per round. Lockjaw also has enough power to give everyone one extra dice on a target and to teleport domino into the range of baron's extra dice buff. She can't get rolling until round 2 though.
@Testeverything5212 жыл бұрын
Almost done, but here are some early observations: Gamora: I don't think Gamora or domino are going to make my final lists, but I really like them for this strategy. Gamora is only tough to include because she's directly competing with killmonger, and he has a damage type other than physical, and he staggers the big fellas. Domino is a beast with rerolls or extra dice, but if winter soldier can get up close with baron zemo's target he gets two rerolls. He can also pull off a better round 1 than domino with his range 5. Winter soldier also really likes lockjaw as a target to jump to. Thor: Another piece in competition with killmonger, but he's nice to bring in specifically to counter modok, hulk, shehulk. I don't think he makes the team often, but hes the only 5 threat that I'm confident will make the roster. Thor also enables an solid asgard affiliation at threat level 18. (thor, valk, winter, lockjaw, sabretooth) Red Skull: He can act as Lockjaw on turn 1. He can also teleport allies. He does a bit more damage than Lockjaw and really enables sabretooth, Baron Zemo, Winter soldier, and Valkyrie. If you are willing to replace lockjaw this way, he opens up an optimized cabal roster at a few of the higher threat levels.
@jacobhaase13132 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video. I love how so many people say this or that model isn’t good but it just needs the right list.
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
So true for so many characters.
@pharoahman4752 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on getting to the highest score of Rogue Agent! Also really funny someone made it to 500 rating for Unaffiliated before anyone got 500 Affiliation for Inhumans
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think Unaffiliated is better than a number of Affiliations out there at the moment…including Inhumans
@pharoahman4752 жыл бұрын
@@RichMidGaming Actually your rosters main strategy is basically the entire Inhumans Gimmick of redistributing power. Lockjaw is even an Inhuman! It's just far more effective unaffilaited somehow (I guess because of the characters who can get it?)
@defenstrator46602 жыл бұрын
Great rundown of the list and how it works and evolved.
@Testeverything5212 жыл бұрын
Finally finished my take on the unaffiliated roster. It becomes Cabal at threat 14, 18, and 20. Lockjaw (Gives everyone power using R&D turn 1) Baron Zemo (Makes every threat level) Venom (Makes every threat level, pulls people turn 1 into the deathball) Red Skull (one extra threat to replace lockjaw, gives everyone power using R&D turn 1) Sabretooth (was almost Killmonger instead. Combos so well with Heimdal, can get a turn 1 kill on a flank using "no matter the cost") Thor (my favorite counter to big threats like MODOK or She-Hulk) Heimdal (Tricky combos with venom) Gamora (long move + attack + assassin leap, has turn 1 kill pressure akin to Sabretooth) Nebula (Gamora and nebula use their team tactic's card to Daze a flanker on turn 1) Winter Soldier (Benefits a ton from rerolls or lockjaw's extra dice, benefits a lot from Cabal's leadership) The core for unaffiliated is Baron + Lockjaw + Venom (10 threat). The core for Cabal is Baron + Red Skull + Venom (11 threat). @14: (Cabal) Baron + Red Skull + Venom +Winter Soldier (Winter and Baron flank together) @15: (Unaffiliated) Baron + Lockjaw + Venom + Thor @16: (Unaffiliated) Baron + Lockjaw + Venom + Gamora + Nebula @17: (Unaffiliated) Baron + Lockjaw + Venom + Gamora + Winter (Gamora flanks, winter and zemo kill whoever venom grabs, zemo moves last) @18: (Cabal) Baron + Red Skull + Venom + Sabretooth + Heimdall (Sabretooth on the flank possibly with Baron) @19 (Unaffiliated) Baron + Lockjaw + Venom + Gamora + Nebula + Winter Soldier @20 (Cabal) Baron + Red Skull + Venom + Sabretooth + Thor (Thor focuses on attrition, staggering the big fellas and trying to throw characters into each other) Team Tactics: Advanced R&D (Most important card) Weapon X Program (Sabretooth) No matter the cost Sacrifice Lethal Protector (Venom) Last-minute Save (Lockjaw) Indominable Patch up Cosmic Invigoration (Red Skull) Daughter of Thanos (Gamora/Nebula) I almost took Mystique because she pulls people turn 1, has great defense up close, and counters Rocket Racoon/Groot. Almost took Killmonger instead of Sabretooth. Valkyrie and Heimdall were competing for the same spot as well at the 18 threat level. Valkyrie just uses power so well, especially in Cabal, but Heimdal and venom have so much synergy.
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
really like this, hope you have some fun with it!
@MrChallacombe2 жыл бұрын
People told me unaffiliated couldn't work! Ha! Well done for showing them the error of their ways!
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
It's 100% viable - (just like almost everything else in this game), people just hadn't figured it out!
@HuwgeGrin2 жыл бұрын
Super enjoyable video!
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Huw
@onebigadvocado63762 жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm loving the idea of this list - Just wondering if you'd considered Iron Fist? He seems to be doing all the things you want characters to be doing
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
For me he is a little lacklustre in the damage output dept, he also has no throw/charge so his action economy isn’t great
@darschpugs46902 жыл бұрын
what is the program you are using to show the cards and select them? Also any tips for using Hulk on a team? I don't see many people talking about using him since his update and i kinda want to make a silly hulk list with lockjaw on it since Hulk loves puppies.
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
It’s called Tabletop Simulator (it’s a PC game). Hulk is played a lot at the moment, but mainly under Steves Avengers, but you also see him splashed into Brotherhood a little.
@darschpugs46902 жыл бұрын
@@RichMidGaming oh sweet I have TTS, I am actually looking to get Brotherhood and web warriors with Hulk soon, Hulk and Magneto are my all time favorite Marvel characters with Spiderman and the X-Men equal after them, nice to know Hulk is splashed with Brotherhood some.
@squishcognito67802 жыл бұрын
This breaks all the tiers and tips I’ve been hearing from you Rich! How the hell?
@Testeverything5212 жыл бұрын
Do you ever run into the issue of wanting to grab someone turn 1 with venom but everyone you could grab would get stuck on cover/terrain?
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
It has happened before yes, so I usually just bide my time, or if I’ve taken somebody like Valkyrie, use her to move them into a better position (or throw the terrain out of the way)
@Testeverything5212 жыл бұрын
@@RichMidGaming I'm wondering if Angela would work to enable venom to set up the turn 1 daze. She can probably get in far enough to throw the terrain into them and get back out on the same turn.
@aaroncattle34742 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm curious as to whether you considered Red Skull instead of Lockjaw? Use his Cosmic Cube power to generate the 3 power and share that via Advanced R&D. He costs 1 more threat but Cabal affiliation and his other powers might make it worthwhile. I haven' got Lockjaw so was looking at other options to achieve a similar strategy.
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
you may have just outed my next plan for a badge...watch this space!
@aaroncattle34742 жыл бұрын
@@RichMidGaming I gave the Red Skull and Omega Red version a go yesterday. Only possible target was Hulk! Pulled him in and, with the help of Dark Reign, Hulk was Ko'ed round 2 and he only managed to daze Bullseye and give out a couple more damage to a few other characters. :)
@1mBearman2 жыл бұрын
Leeds man. No wonder I love him.
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
We’re a lovable bunch (or at least that’s what my mum tells me)
@1mBearman2 жыл бұрын
@@RichMidGaming i love you lot as an Australian cause of Viduka.
@BubblegumJpt2 жыл бұрын
Hello :D Criminal sindicate guide? maybe would love it hehehehhehe
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
We'll be getting round to it 100%
@Testeverything5212 жыл бұрын
Is hulk a decent option here, or is there something making him not fit so well?
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
He costs too much to be effective and needs the power himself round one, so I don’t think it works for me - but give it a try and see how it works
@kzekely9132 жыл бұрын
Superguaint card is out
@RichMidGaming2 жыл бұрын
Yep - we will be covering it off on this weeks Bugle!