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[@cristian-florea-coding]

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[@elikemdaniels]

Today is my first time here. Thanks for all the advice in your video. By the way, the URL you shared redirects to stackoverflow. I'm not sure if you're aware of this though. You may want to check it out. I've tried on multiple browsers and have even tried in incognito mode yet the problem persists. Thanks.

[@dom2326]

I understand the employers/company though. However, those who are willing to let newbies/beginners in their organization are the real champs.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

I think they are massive gamblers, but I get what you mean

[@kennethdavid8469]

This is so true, I'm a beginner in web development and sometimes I feel discouraged, but I still see myself staying late at night trying to learn the basics , whoever is reading this just keep pushing I promise you won't regret this, sometimes it May feel as if you nothing is getting in but believe me you are making progress, it's just so hard in the beginning, and don't try to get everything at once in your head take a break. Love from Nigeria.

[@nabodimma]

Me too! Hang in there. Love from Nigeria as well❤

[@phanbb]

Me too!!! 😢

[@saeedhalabi]

Same! JavaScript is hard for me now But i keep pushing

[@mr.muhamadyusup]

I trust you Bro.

[@mrgamerzyt3945]

Thanks for the advice brother Love from Pakistan

[@SomeFreeTimeActivities]

I love learning and building things. Im always looking to learn new things. Finding coding and learning about it has made me so happy because ill be learning for the rest of my life. I've worked with my hands as a welder/fabricator and now i can try and build stuff using codes.

[@joshuasimmons696]

At 45 I’m just learning, I do appreciate the hard truths. I ain’t giving up, I’ll deal with my full time job, school, bills, daily stress, all the while taking in the new technologies that outrun me at every step, and I will succeed.

[@ad7711x]

I’m 45 trying to do the same thing. But I got fired on purpose so I could collect unemployment. I turned learning to code into a full time jobs. For the next 4 months. I had do do something drastic to evoke change. Being 45, I felt like I didn’t have time to slow roll it. Worst case scenario I can put something new on my resume and still be able to apply to jobs I’m used to working (lower-mid level management jobs)

[@spenceragain]

@ad7711x LOL that's awesome! Go for it! Good luck to you.

[@Blakeart1]

Great video! Im 2 years into the self taught journey. I stopped applying after a year and started learning more with React, Python etc... I got into tech to create a business ideal. A job would be nice, but by the end of the year i plan on launching my first product. If it doesn't work out, I believe the scale of it will definitely help land a job

[@andrewdddo]

Love this blunt and honest response to being a web dev and getting a job! Keep it up!

[@susboi1704]

Most valuable 13mins on KZbin I’ve seen in a while. I’ve been stuck on the no interview phase and I’ve picked up very good info from the second minute of this video. I love how real you are with your content. Thanks a lot I’ll make this worth it. New sub for sure👍

[@parlor3115]

He's trying to sell you something though

[@cristian-florea-coding]

@@parlor3115 so what?

[@khalidalraies315]

@@parlor3115 So you expect him to provide value with nothing in return?

[@MhandeJack]

​@@cristian-florea-coding yooo chill, you tryna get active on yt ? C'mon 😂😂😂

[@cooltrucly]

being different is so important. when i was a student in university, i sat in a lecture hall of 500 students who were pursuing the same exact degree with the same exact courseload as me. felt like a room full of clones. thinking about how to differentiate myself...i decided to focus by seeking out research opportunities, projects, and competitions that i could participate in order to build my experience and learn more about myself and what I like. it was valuable to try out frontend/backend/hardware dev, physics research, and even econometrics during these years, as it helped me realize i didn't enjoy them, so i didn't force myself to do it for the sake of finding a job. i found my interest in data engineering and infrastructure and my enjoyment and curiosity for it enabled me to work on such projects for long hours. i read books about DE for fun! and after graduating, i landed a six-figure job in big tech doing data engineering and data science. moral of the story, find what you like, work hard at it, be strategic about finding the right opportunities, and reap the rewards afterward.

[@mitsk2002]

Thank you for taking the time for draw useful drawings, and for explaining these points in such a clear way. Not enough KZbin programmers are talking about these important points.

[@andreigheorghe3135]

Thank you for sharing this with us, Cristian!

[@telsamorgan5369]

Thank you so much for this video. Super helpful and well presented. Your time and effort is most appreciated!

[@user-tk3wp3nb4b]

I apply for the mentornship, but 4 hours before meeting you cancelled, and in mail i didnt see any reason about cancelling. There is a section "Canceling Reason" but it is empty. Can you please answer from here?

[@kanankontorovsky6537]

“People are so nice that it hurts people” I couldn’t agree more.

[@adolfomartin5456]

Thank you for your videos. I think is not so terrible for trainee/junior because if there is not enough senior, companies have to hire junior or compite with higher salaries, but lots companies cannot afford senior, and for many positions companies cannot afford junior and then trainee have their oportunity.

[@camn-bv3vq]

yes, the problem is the huge gap between those companies that cannot afford senior dev and the other consolidated companies that can pay what market says. There is shortage of intermediate opportunities

[@IffyEdem]

Not true fully. Companies would rather keep a position open for months than fill it with a jr or entry dev

[@akrambelajouza]

Well explained! It's a mature market and starting is always the hardest. It gets a little bit easier when time goes by.

[@nanonkay5669]

Not for me, I have 3 years of professional experience, got laid off 6 months ago and still no interview at all 😭

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Have you tried fixing your resume?

[@nanonkay5669]

@@cristian-florea-coding I've revised it so many times, looking at different sources.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Did you get a professional to look at it. There’s some great services for like $300

[@luisacosta3461]

This is something I've been thinking about a lot. There are many business problems that can be resolved with code, regardless of the technologies or programming languages used; it depends on the specific request or context of the problem. The key is to solve the problem and offer it as a product or service. I'm a new subscriber. Thank you for your advice. Greetings from South America.

[@nayanbramhane8077]

Every other youtuber is trying to sell their Live Fullstack Web Development ccourse with DSA

[@world-9644]

The chicken has more experience, strength, and value than the egg. But it cannot make the egg obsolete. For what chicken was not born from an egg? And how many chickens will be left if the egg is no more?

[@cristian-florea-coding]

I know your chicken story is very deep and you thought really hard to come up with it, but it is the wrong video to post it

[@mathewgarcia3011]

Ive been coding for 4 months now and this is something im already realizing. I know html/css/bootstrap and javascript. Im currently building a note taking application that can import files to save within the application, or you can type them out within the application and export the notes as RTF or PDFs. It can also take in audio files and convert them into text/transcripts. And the last feature ill be implementing is it will be able to take audio or text files and have chat gpt api spit out consolidated/summarized notes. I know it is a big project but im coding 20-30 hours a week and im a quick learner. Im dedicated to completing this project fully. Im starting React in about 4 qeeks as well. Im coding this in vanilla JS.

[@silverfullbuster9177]

Do you thinks its worth continuing web development as a career with the AI replacing programmers being spouted everywhere you go? I'm in 2 months of learning and just want to be sure I'm making a relatively good career decision

[@lovesham7754]

​@@silverfullbuster9177 brother think about this logically what else are you gonna do .. even if every job is gonna be replaced with AI ..developers would be the last ones.. there needs to be people to handle the technology

[@lifeform106]

@@silverfullbuster9177 I actually do recommend finding a different path. Web development anyone can now do. The demand has gone down a tone and there are thousands of people learning web development on Udemy and code boot camps made by companies. I get recommended to boot camps that say "it is hard to find a web development job so I created this boot camp." There are dozens of bootcamps now. I would say they are going off out dated information when web development was popular in the 2010s. It is better to go into networking and cloud computing. If you know someone at a web development you will be fine and have a job but if you are trying to get your foot in the door then I recommend networking or cloud computing since those jobs are near as saturated.

[@alphawebtips2950]

​@@silverfullbuster9177AI can't replace developers. AI will make writing codes and working faster. I use AI everyday and I can tell you, if you don't understand what you are doing, AI can't help you.

[@LorencCala]

@@silverfullbuster9177continue your study and be prepared as soon as you realise how coding works, libraries etc, you will be able to jump to different spots as software engineer, and guess what: The AI will be your best friend as calculators were or computers to engineers. Also since you are beginner, don’t try to memorise code but instead use AI tools like chatgpt to help you. If something doesn’t work as it why your code doesn’t work and you will learn much faster and this type of interactions would be stored much easier in you brain I would say. Is like coding with another friend of yours, the only difference is that he know all that …

[@chucksresume7203]

Great video!!

[@Jwhiz24]

TLDR: The barrier of entry is higher now to get into tech than it was a few years ago. So you need to know more to get hired. He goes on to make a false dichotomy by comparing a company looking to hire a webdev with a homeowner looking to hire a plumber. He states that the homeowner is willing to pay more for a plumber who can fix the problem fast even if they have to pay more, but he fails to mention that trade jobs have apprenticeships. Someone who's applying to become a junior developer is applying to the equivalent of an apprentice plumber position. Surely the market cannot sustain an environment where the bottom rungs of the ladder are missing indefinitely.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

I see your point. what if we switch the plumber with heart surgeon. Which one would you pick: one that just graduated magma cum laude or one that has 30000 successful operations made in the past 15 years?

[@Jwhiz24]

​@@cristian-florea-coding come on, that analogy doesn't work either. You cannot become a heart surgeon directly after graduating med school. It requires additional years of residency (i.e. on the job training under a mentor) before any board will certify you to perform heart surgery. I do see what you're trying to say though. If all things are equal, you will take the more experienced person. Yet It's like you're intentionally missing my point. A career is a ladder that one climbs as you gain experience and competency. Last time I checked, ladders which are missing rungs are considered broken. const employmentPractice = () => { If (experience === inflatedExpectations) { return interview } else { return swift kick in the nuts }}

[@cristian-florea-coding]

I am all for juniors to get hired bro. I want them to get hired. I profit from them getting hired. I'm not closing the door, I simply explain why businesses don't want them. I show them another perspective so they can be prepared for it. The tech industry is broken, is full of lies and people who make this seem like a walk in the park. I try to paint it as I see it, and I call the bad behaviour that people that come in the industry have.

[@collinslumayi521]

Eye opener. Thank you. Will just need abit of time to learn to run after having learnt to walk.. Flying is best

[@ThisGuyRightHere353]

That is solid advice. Definitely takes more work and more time but it makes sense.

[@mohamadabdulhadi1740]

Thank you for being honest with us, appreciate your hard work.❤

[@ademoladavid8102]

Great video as always 👍👍

[@ad7711x]

Presentation and how you market yourself, network with people and interview is just as important and skill. People get hired all the time with little to know experience but the difference is they know how to sell themselves. And AI is the next wave of sophistication so as some one who will be new coming into the industry in 2024, I’m definitely going go to learn that as well.

[@maqsood6431]

Thank you man

[@michelcecere5734]

Vraiment merci, je comprends mieux maintenant !

[@brawlgammer4424]

Thanks for the levels of sophistication analysis, great added value here! However I do find a gap in your reasoning, if level 5 REQUIRES 5 years of experience and you don't have them what do you do? Give up on the market? My solution to this issue is very simple, but it's not a silver bullet. Most companies ask for X amount of years because of the wrongful association of EXPERIENCE = SKILL. You can bend this to your advantage, if you can figure out what they are looking for and prove to them that you can provide that value. The caveat is getting your resume past HR, who might just look at your experience and automatically discard you, but if you find a company which looks beyond that you might have a shot.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

yes, that was my reasoning, unfortunately you need to fabricate the resume, and as long as you can back it up, everything should be fine

[@asus12351]

Like the ild saying goes you have to start somewhere. Nobody starts out senior. Unfortunately how he explains it is the market. Its not like being a tradesmen where you go through an apprenticeship you are set loose on someones electrical system.

[@ambientsoundsfromtheotherside]

Set loose 😂😂😂😂bro u brutal

[@uncleanAlibertine1]

Wow, thank you, sometimes I am just with head in the sand lol! Thank you for opening my eyes

[@freaklore]

Plan B, all those guys you spoke with team up together and create their own company. Likely they would get more work collectively landing clients. That being said, everyone that is now considered a professional were junior themselves at some point. Think about it, if more people are given a chance and skill up then more skilled workers will be out there.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Like creating and running a business is easy lol 😂

[@freaklore]

@@cristian-florea-coding Not easy, but certainly easier together. Good to learn about other aspects of the business beyond programming.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Let’s agree to disagree ✌️

[@MillixFX]

@@cristian-florea-coding who will employ jnr devs for you to take them in as snr devs (they need to reevaluate certain things).

[@MillixFX]

@@cristian-florea-coding sorry to say, even you also was a jnr dev before you became a snr dev

[@a1w18]

that was the best description ive heard so far; i had my 18 yr old son go to Woz-U and thats exactly what happend. We are at an impass where I think college is too expensive and he thinks he should take the traditional route of JUCO then transfer to 4 yr college. I did the same route, but i did not have the internet like it is now. I still believe that corporations do not care about a 4 yr degree like they use to. His new friends have convinced him otherwise. I could be wrong, am I?

[@samuelvalentine7846]

I think you should allow him go to school, there are other things he could learn in school that he can't learn outside. Things like self discipline, people and time management, other stuff. It might be expensive but it's better to have it because you can't tell what opportunity might arise in the future

[@AnotherPersonStoppingBy]

I'm not a professional, so take this with a grain of salt. But I felt compelled to respond to your comment. My concern would be that the ATS (applicant tracking system) that companies use in HR departments would screen him out due to a lack of a relevant bachelor's degree. This process is automated; his application would be thrown away before a human would lay eyes on it. If he could get a human to view his application materials from the start, he MIGHT stand a better chance IF he's highly skilled in ways that the company needs. This is why networking is so important. It might help him sidestep some of the formalities and barriers that external applicants face. As a junior, he has to convince the employer that he won't need much training, won't bog down his teammates and superiors with questions or poorly implemented work that they'll need to clean up later, won't leave or be fired before the company can recoup the expense of hiring him, and won't be a net loss to the company. That's a LOT for someone with no formal education to promise and deliver on in the absence of years of self study and independently produced projects of a certain level of sophistication and purpose. It's terrible what the market for developers has become. And it's an unfair nightmare for juniors who dedicated years of their lives to the pursuit of this career. But my guess is that your son is going to want and need any and every advantage he can get. At the end of the day, he has to answer two questions: How will he keep himself from being screened out? And if he's not screened out, what makes him a more attractive candidate than those with relevant degrees?

[@jonathanjohnson2785]

Hey Christian, you killing me 😂😂😂😂. Love your videos. So direct with no bullsh*t❤

[@GaborGubicza]

A week ago I decided to transition from hardware engineering to software. Your video was very valuable.

[@filmcastation4501]

Am on the seam journey as well

[@vyas9631]

Me as well.

[@manmade8175]

It is easier to compete at level 5 than level 3,,,,, great advice ever heard🔥🔥

[@rfryanfavour4369]

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOU FOR THIS. I WISH I COULD LEARN MORE FROM YOU AND PROBABLY BE PART OF YOUR TEAM OR BE LIKE YOU SOMEDAY ❤

[@cristian-florea-coding]

I don;t think you would survive one day with my brain lol

[@jeremiahedum5916]

Thank you Cristian

[@OtsileM]

Very clear and logical explanations. Thanks

[@shaolin6150]

I’m a new jr developer and omg! My senior game me his backend template and I’m totally baffled. Im prolly gonna get let go

[@mentalstatement]

I was thinking of taking computers when I was in college a bunch of years ago. My fear was that with high salary everyone would get into the field, also they were outsourcing a lot. That was around 15 years ago, I guess my prediction is coming true, just a lot later than I anticipated.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Maybe you should look into becoming a prophet?

[@BucketHatMan1216]

Best advice on Web Dev. Not for everyone but the people the software space needs a realist perspective. It’s all doom & gloom now vs you just HAVE to be better.

[@khairiyusoff5040]

We need to demonstrate the real time data on supply and demand for this before making conclusion on the junior dev saturation. I am a beginner with just a 6 months experience as react dev, and most of the jobs advertised I see now are junior dev to mid-level. And the job that I secured was advertised for a 3 years experience while I was having NONE as a self-taught dev. I guess it all depends on the person searching the job on how to make himself employable.

[@razac_zr]

What 's the website name?

[@bossgd100]

Dépends of luck you mean

[@julianatorres581]

How did you get them to hire you even without experience?

[@khairiyusoff5040]

@@julianatorres581 I did showcase my github profile to them and explain the projects I did during my sealf learning period. I have several small projects using react.js and vanilla javascript. During interview I was asked technical questions mostly basics about web dev and my understanding on react.js. And it was coding challenge where I had to make an api call (POST method).

[@zdravkobelinski4627]

i have question - so how recruiters expect to have new employees with these level 5 requirents, because it takes not much time to learn CSS/JS but when you have to add react, jQuery etc that is extra learning material that takes extra time. So from perspective of employer ther3 are very few people who can do all the job, and he has to wait too instead of taking guy who can do css/js and teach him at the company time. Isnt it counter productive to stay without associate instead of having any associate at all?

[@cristian-florea-coding]

recruiters are not looking for people without experience

[@zdravkobelinski4627]

@@cristian-florea-coding i understand but u saw from the other video that Basil got hired with bare knowledge of javascript. Its because employers are hungry especially in UK after the brexit. Moreover alot of people out of uni they have degree but can barely code. I also do udemy course and have few projects, cause the course builds them along with you, but i cannot say that i am a good programmer. However if a company has to wait for me to master react, and backend functionalities too, they maybe can hire me after 1 year. At the same time i dont mind, because i have a job, i pack boxes in amazon and earn 710£ after taxes even though i dont like that. My point is here especially in UK there is hunger for workers rather than the opposite

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Basil didn’t have bare knowledge of js, we worked intensively on that so he can get a job. Where do you get that from? He probably said that he had bare knowledge when he was learning from udemy courses. What you’re describing to me is one of those: it’s not your fault but it’s your problem.

[@olaxajayi]

straight & hard on to the point.

[@olivierpataut7015]

This explains perfectly the market Bootcamp is going to put you to level 2 or 3 The most in demand will let you get a job they are quite pricey in Paris The differenciation element is key I am learning python then Django Flask then another in demand langage It will take a lot of time I know that. It's a 3 years journey. But what if i just do fun projects for 3 years till I get good ? A tiny bit everyday till it compounds Currently a recruiter (so I know well the HR side)

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Start with fun projects until you get your basics down, then build something to solve something for recruiters

[@104kinoman]

You are correct. I got bombarded with offers after building real products. And don’t go for react in web dev - pick angular instead

[@vaibhavjadhav1702]

He is absolutely right , in India every other person is trying to get into web , even motherfuckers from non-cs background , on a single job opening there are thousands of applicants , and it’s extremely frustrating

[@sujit_webdev]

Correct

[@guptasagar694]

Correct and the problem is in India more than 90% of IT jobs are in Web or Mobile development only...so all the non-cs people are flocking here for React, Java backend creating immnese competition for even person like me who have 2 + yrs exp

[@sujit_webdev]

@@guptasagar694 So what is the solution ?

[@br0ken_107]

"even motherfuckers from non-cs background" you really believe your stream in bachelor's matters LOL. CSE is a joke in India no real skill set (Talking about curriculum), all the great programmers I have met are self taught, both CS and non CS ones. And I am from IIT Bombay, self taught people from IITB are making crores, while curriculum toppers are sitting in city bank for 13 LPA base. Non CSE are way better than CSE grads, atleast non cse realise they need to work on their own unlike CSE grads who believe their curriculum. Most niche jobs (for indian market) like cloud architects, low level devs, flutter devs are from non CSE background where CSE people mostly go in web / mobile dev and data science. But my pov is only from IIT perspective but I strongly believe if IIT cse curriculum is no enough then other CSE curriculums are trash in order to get a job

[@sujit_webdev]

@@br0ken_107 Very well said💯

[@ArjunaPandava]

Can you help me get a remote junior front end web developer job? I would like a mentor like you.

[@dvrkpijo828]

Dude I lost my shit at level 4 🤣 great content!

[@krox477]

What constitutes for Real world product

[@alchuu00]

This was one of the most valuable vid I watched in a while👌👌

[@utkarshbhatnagar7323]

Then according to you what kind of projects/apps should one build in order to be noticed by employers

[@cristian-florea-coding]

next video

[@macobuzi]

Back when the market was easygoing, making an app for learning purposes with your own requirements and used by yourself was good enough, it showed that you were really interested in Software and could be taught easily for the job. But nowadays, they need people who can do the job on day 1, they have no time or money to train you or take a risk on you. So unless you can build an actual app that is used by many real users, you won't be getting noticed because the market is saturated.

[@utkarshbhatnagar7323]

@@macobuzi True hence i had to take up another contractual job and i work on the side I'm hustling as much as i can in hopes of becoming an SE

[@martinnyagah4313]

This is very credible advice!!

[@i_code_daily]

I have done mern course from udemy, and a good understanding of web, but I kept applying for jobs no response, but I recently got a interview call for some service now job , I don't know what is it , what is your opinion about it ,can you help me out , I googled it says it's low code platform, that needs js, does it require pure coding , should I opt for this role or not

[@cristian-florea-coding]

I would do it, why not

[@raf_a.e.l]

omg finally thanks for keeping it real because there HAD to be a clear shift from the tech layoffs.

[@jjovanw]

You are the real deal sir. Keep it up

[@yuripravdin4567]

i like this guy's energy, i will subscribe

[@cristinapiasetskaya9935]

top as always

[@supergolden6401]

Soo its worth getting into web dev now days? 😅

[@kurtlarsen8270]

man that was rough and realistic

[@Eag757]

The future depend onathematicians, scientists, economists, Engineers, technicians, and coders. Cybersecurity folks will be in high demand.

[@androidtemp1temporal170]

Ok if everybody is doing code cademy or skillshare etc. what is the solution?

[@cristian-florea-coding]

that's where you need to think, if you follow the mass you'll get the same results as them

[@Adam-kk7nw]

​@@cristian-florea-codingonce ww3 happened and draft happened help grt rid some of population

[@aayushjain2233]

What skill should I learn instead of Web Development then? Im currently doing my undergrad

[@david21289]

Machine learning, but there aren't any junior roles for that. You need to start as a junior data analyst, but be prepared to learn a lot of mathematics, calculus, linear algebra, statistic, python, algorithms, and many other just to land a junior position as data analyst. Good luck 🎉

[@anm3037]

Desktop applications (CAD, Games, etc), System softwares, Robotics Softwares, Security Softwares (antivirus, etc), Financial Services, etc

[@obitouchiha6939]

Lying on the cv and portfolio are the key but make sure that you know what you're lying for

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Obviously know your stuff

[@Tarun6069]

Sir what should I do? I'm frustrated. currently pursuing Computer Science in college.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Never rely on another man to feed you

[@arturojbc]

What do you think about odin Project? Because i think is harder than any udemy course

[@cristian-florea-coding]

harder doesn't mean better

[@alhassankiwamdeen7252]

odin project is one of the best learning resources out there. It models you into a thinker and researcher which is a must-have skill for every developer. Don't quit just because of the time it will take you to research and do the projects on Odin. If you quit, the time will still pass anyway and what have you achieved? nothing. Go for it. I know you can do it and you will!

[@arturojbc]

@@alhassankiwamdeen7252 i think the same, at first, I was only taking Udemy courses, but when I started The Odin Project, my skill level improved significantly

[@br0ken_107]

Odin project in my opinion is the second best free resource after "FullStackOpen", main reason being Odin Project is too long, if you learn everything it will take a long time + no one needs to know everything, just look at job descriptions and learn what they need, why learn everything. This is why I like FullStackOpen, precise and to the point and much smaller compared to Odin Project and FreeCodeCamp

[@reinen9006]

I thought I knew something after years of on and off coding, turns out I fucking suck, especially when I got to data structures and algos and solving those- straight trash 😂

[@hellomilkywhy2274]

I am an owner of my small agency. i prefer hire someone on upwork, fiver, freelancer or other freelance platform than hiring fulltime job employee. You guys should consider to adapt in freelance economy. I actually paid my freelancer per project like they can have $24k per year with their fees from me. Also their clients it's not just mee. If you don't get a fulltime job. Work as freelancer for agency is an alternative😊

[@halimamaryam9088]

Please can you connect me I'm front-end developer

[@mentalstatement]

Now a days, you can hire 3-4 guys from India for the price of one dev in North America. You just need one competent dev to supervise the code

[@dave_di]

11:57 I would be very depressed if I spent money for a bootcamp and this is what my portfolio looked like.

[@jorgecorrea7996]

I've been coding ever since i graduated with my BBA on May 2022. Should I pursue a masters in web development on August 2024. Would that open more doors for a job?

[@getoutoftheway419]

why don't u do an mba

[@cristian-florea-coding]

that's a great idea, you'll waste more time so other people who build projects will have more chances

[@evanboothby7615]

@@cristian-florea-coding 🤣

[@LuckLuckie1]

@@cristian-florea-coding😂😂😂😂

[@divinesackitey6938]

@@cristian-florea-coding 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@flankman9385]

I’ve been told anything related to developing or IT has been saturated since 1995 when I began my CS degree.

[@user-ql5jk2bt9c]

Up until a few years ago the trend was “plenty of jobs/not enough programmers”

[@mayank4156]

I quit learning after 2+ months in. Why? Because in this field you gotta keep learning. There's no end to it. But on a bright side, I can now modify precreated website themes to my own liking if I ever want a personal website lol. Too many no code tools out there.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

depends on what you want to do, not one size fits all bro. GL in your journey

[@mayank4156]

​@developerPro But I kinda enjoyed it so its still 50/50. Coding skills definitely do make a person stand out from the rest.

[@godplusyou]

I agree, it's just nonstop learn learn learn like, I prefer raw skills. Like shoveling. LOL

[@boratsagdiyev522]

I'm at that same position. Contemplating quitting after I've spent so much time learning.

[@godplusyou]

@@boratsagdiyev522 Yeah so I moved on to learning call center skills. 😂

[@Us3rn4m3N0tF0und]

A lot of young people try to play professional football, only a few get to the highest level. Same with dev. Most people are not smart enough, so no problem if a lot of people try it.

[@jessiepinkemen]

I would like to see more content related to javascript and projects related to vanilla javascript Btw love your content ❤

[@DexterHarrison22908]

There's actually a shortage of web developers... Every business, tech or not, requires a web developer at some point. You have 35 million businesses and 27 million web developers. Thats a shortage of about 7 million

[@find_me8830]

I really like the way you say "Boom!" hahahaha. It sucks, you have to accept anything as your first job and some people even go for unpaid internships Dx

[@boratsagdiyev522]

I love this video, it's the cold hard truth. However, I'm considering quitting because I'm learning way too slow to be competitive. It took we way to long to learn html, css and javascript and im still struggling. I tried learning react for a month and I still don't know crap. I can't compete in this industry.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

Maybe you don’t have the right foundation

[@boratsagdiyev522]

@@cristian-florea-coding Maybe. I've been learning from Udemy and KZbin.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

@@boratsagdiyev522 ah, I see

[@aljon5947]

@@boratsagdiyev522have you heard about “The Odin Project”?

[@AnotherPersonStoppingBy]

I know this comment is months old, but... I agree that you might not have a good foundation. You might want to consider taking an introductory programming class at a community college. You'll be following a set curriculum, most likely have a text book, and be given weekly assignments that are scoped to that week's lesson. And the most valuable part of all is the feedback you'll get on each assignment combined with access to a teacher who can answer your questions. I can't tell you how valuable it is to learn the fundamentals in a structured way. Because learning bits and pieces from different curriculums here and there can cause a novice to walk away with a fractured, hazy understanding of the concepts. Because they don't quite have enough context to parse the information in a way that's meaningful to them. For example, you might find documentation to be very cryptic. But the more you know beyond the bare minimum, the easier understanding the documentation becomes and the less formal instruction you need! It becomes easier to teach yourself new things once you have a solid foundation in the things that came before it. So, don't give up because you find the material to be dense right now and you haven't retained as much as you would have liked. Maybe give an evening class at a community college a try. I personally think in person would be best for a novice, but online classes could work too IF the professor does a good job of laying out the material and offers recorded lectures (or holds live, synchronous classes at a certain time that works for you). Always remember that it's a marathon, not a sprint.

[@Karthik-dy2vu]

best video of the day

[@NitinSharma-pk9yi]

so true

[@fadyfathey4315]

What is real world project that should i do ?

[@cristian-florea-coding]

If I tell you, everyone would do the same project and we will end up in the same place as we are now. Try to solve a real world problem mate

[@unhash631]

Prioritize learning the backend first. The market job market for frontend devs is hopeless. Been coding since 2010 (mostly frontend) but the amount of people trying to get into it is just ridiculous. My advice? Find a stack/technology where online resources are difficult to find. Right now tutorials/guides for backend stuff aren’t as flooded as it is in the frontend. Yes, most backend roles needs a bit more experience but at least you know how to guage how much stuff you really need to learn just to offer a business value to a company.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

ok buddy thanks for your input

[@user-ql5jk2bt9c]

I don’t think it’s any easier to get hired as a back end dev. If anything, employers are more likely to require a CS degree and/or relevant experience for back end roles. I think anything programming related is very hard to get into. Heck, even entry level IT jobs like support are hard to get into for people without experience.

[@unhash631]

@@user-ql5jk2bt9c You said it yourself. Just get a CS degree and an internship and you’re all set for an entry-level backend role. I personally know a few people without thorough knowledge about common programming principles but they still got in. That’s how much backend is needed by a lot of companies. I’m not saying that frontend isn’t important. It’s just less of a priority for them. A lot of enterprises have problems in their operations that don't even need a UI but people aren’t flocking to them because the solutions aren't using trendy technologies like ReactJS. Moreover, there are more opportunities for you to even move into more specialized roles when you start with backend. Are you really passionate about frontend? Go fullstack. Do you love working with data? Data engineering. Do you like deployment and integration systems? DevOps. It’s much easier to shift to these roles once you have a few years of experience in the backend.

[@phoenixhelicase98]

This is why lying in your CV is fair game !! If you know how to code but have 0 professional experience you should 100% lied to get that first job. It’s not about being honest, it’s survival !

[@S-we2gp]

you dont have to lie to demonstrate you have coding experience, show the portfolio of what you've built. But you dont have that so you probably do need to lie... lol

[@maniac50ae14]

Did or has lying worked for you?

[@AnonymousAccount514]

right now...even Seniors are having problems getting a job

[@camn-bv3vq]

Of course, today or at least in the next 2 years, Jr position will not longer exist, the new Jr dev will need to know a little about everything and be able to handle a business software from scratch. The level is requested by the market, this not something that remains stagnant over time. The time we needed to become a Jr dev 10 years ago was about between 1 and 2 years after any degree or any course, now in 2 month everyone can become what we called Jr dev

[@cristian-florea-coding]

100% But people still don’t get it, and it starts from the mainstream content

[@akshaysrivastava4304]

what about the learning curve, has that also decreased over past years? new juniors are required to know it all but why? i think it's the companies that are raising the bar, only selecting the cream, hence making more competition

[@cristian-florea-coding]

because companies want to make money, they don;t want to waste time and money on some udemy developer lol

[@CyberTech403]

That makes no sense to be called Junior Developer with 5+ years experience ?? You be better off applying for senior role with that many years !? Is that how it works in the United States ? Here in Europe Junior developer is someone who has less than 2 years of experience or fresh out of University with an internship.

[@user-ql5jk2bt9c]

Many employers want “Junior” devs with plenty of skills and experience, so they can pay them like crap based on the job title. They can do that because there are so many qualified applicants and enough qualified people who will take the job

[@prateekbhardwaj9943]

yes that's true no one want junior. that's why learning non relevant subjects in ur computer science degree not enough, better make demo projects, or contributing in open source..

[@DexterrrrX]

How can somebody be so blunt🤣🤣🤣

[@MrSexyDeadpool]

Completely right, took me over 100 applications to get a job even with a master's degree. And nowadays even though I have just 1 year experience I get almost weekly interview offers 😅

[@boratsagdiyev522]

That's crazy. What's ur stack?

[@cristian-florea-coding]

100 applications takes a week mate, this is not crazy lol

[@Sunil_KumarDas]

Interview offers and job offers are a different thing bro!

[@MrSexyDeadpool]

@@Sunil_KumarDas I'm aware, but it's already an improvement over just being a piece of paper to the recruiter and makes it a lot easier to translate in a job offer 😄For job offers I can't provide good feedback because Im well paid where I am so I haven't interviewed anymore

[@alfiecollins5617]

As an employer I might well be willing to hire a highly skilled junior developer. I would rather pay someone less qualified 20k per annum than pay a senior developer 200k per annum if I know that the former can do a decent job. That's why I think it's important for companies to give junior developers a chance and to actually take the time to look at their portfolios. As long as they have a good portfolio in the relevant technologies, I would be willing to hire them.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

What is a highly skilled junior developer?

[@alfiecollins5617]

@@cristian-florea-coding By 'junior' I mean not having spent much time as a developer (6 months to 2 years). They are junior because they don't have much experience. But they are highly skilled in the sense of being able to produce functionally robust and attractive web projects. I don't see 'highly skilled junior developer' as necessarily oxymoronic, although it may be rare.

[@AnotherPersonStoppingBy]

​@@alfiecollins5617 A "highly skilled" employee who produces attractive and functionally robust web products should be compensated at a rate of $10 per hour? A person who is driven enough and intelligent enough to become highly skilled will not stay long with an employer who values their contributions at $10 an hour. Or even $20 an hour. And I believe you already know that. If an employee is making valuable contributions to your company, then they should be compensated relative to the value they bring. To dock their pay based on the number of years they've been in the profession is exploitative. And I think you know that too.

[@djStens]

I created an AI image generator in React and I don't even think that's going to be a good enough project to impress hiring managers.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

find a similar app and copy its features

[@leoMC4384]

Of course. AI is garbage, 90% people use it as a toy to create shit. Build a real thing on your own.

[@ngash_101]

This is some cold truth I haven't heard anywhere else

[@yesyes9698]

Skill issue. Maybe build a good portfolio, don’t settle with two technologies. Learn everyday.

[@AvidAfrican]

So how does one attain a senior without going through the Junior? Man you're absolutely wrong.

[@cristian-florea-coding]

You can’t be a senior just like that lol. I’m just telling you what is happening

[@macobuzi]

It's technically possible. You can be self-taught and build a real-world application, gain profit from it and become a real Senior after some years. I know someone who has gone that path and I have to say even though it's possible, it was really rough, much rougher than you becoming a Senior by working for a company.

[@br0ken_107]

usually that phrase means senior level skill set not literally senior level. Too many bad devs these days so companies need to ask for more. sad but true. there are jr dev jobs infact lot of them but if you compare requirements to pre covid jr devs it's a significant difference. One way to counter it : think before you learn, make projects dont just follow tutorials or roadmaps, make you own after studying job descriptions, various curriculums. If people just start to think again before learning this phase will pass. these days everyone makes the same projects, same clones, same portfolio honestly I don't give a crap about protfolio websites. Show me something that works. My personal experience -- made a product tracker which scraped data from e commerce sites and showed results according to the costumer, real life application -- people who are not well versed with how to use mobiles or web apps (people in rural areas) can buy stuff. This was not what I wanted to make but the original project was too complex and by tinkering stuff I reached to this one. Cleared by 2nd ever interview in my entire life with pay equivalent to 4+ times national tech avg. and 10+ times national avg pay. Sadly the company shut down recently but I know I can do it again. So honestly you need to have senior level skill set to get entry level job. I think that is what the video is trying to say as well.

[@clickbaitpolice9792]

This is why I just went down freelancer route

[@kennedymwendo5971]

Thanks for this guide

[@neil0618]

Have been looking for a tech job 6 months and got nothing. It's too late to watch this video!!!!!!!

[@cristian-florea-coding]

maybe you;re not good enough?

[@SaurabhSingh-cc7jo]

Love from India ♥️♥️♥️