Is Wolfgang's rework Good or Bad?

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OrangE

OrangE

2 жыл бұрын

The new don't starve together beta is here and it gave Wolfgang some interesting changes. Here are my thoughts on this
original post : forums.kleientertainment.com/...
Wolfgang rework info thread : forums.kleientertainment.com/...

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@globingoblin
@globingoblin 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, the golden version of a tool is actually realistic
@Goofy90
@Goofy90 2 жыл бұрын
We need a golden spider 🕸️🕷🕷🕷🕸️
@CrusadingBacon167
@CrusadingBacon167 2 жыл бұрын
@@Goofy90 teach me the ways of the spooder
@verestoyjanos5013
@verestoyjanos5013 2 жыл бұрын
Well in my opinion a pickaxe made out of flint is less durable in real life too
@nom1489
@nom1489 2 жыл бұрын
@@CrusadingBacon167 as a Webber main I can tell you we have an advanced set of principals that you will need to learn to learn the way of the spider.
@CrusadingBacon167
@CrusadingBacon167 2 жыл бұрын
@@nom1489 i am ready for my first lesson, i have cleared my mind. the spooder blood courses through my veins
@Jakeyosaurus
@Jakeyosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
I think reworked wolfgang is fine, played him for 10 hours today; I only missed the speed bonus in the first 20 days
@TheCnicus
@TheCnicus 2 жыл бұрын
It never made sense that he got a speed boost anyway, he's a strongman not the Hulk. I think this refresh is prefect
@orangedontstarve
@orangedontstarve 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds about right
@Blucario90
@Blucario90 2 жыл бұрын
Does that mean new all bosses run coming out 👀
@Jakeyosaurus
@Jakeyosaurus 2 жыл бұрын
@@Blucario90 only after you watch all of orange man's videos twice
@caoinhnamkhanh2795
@caoinhnamkhanh2795 2 жыл бұрын
I went to your stream during the first few and only heard negative opinions so i couldn't keep watching. But ig him being nerfed sure sparked anger in many players
@cryptidscryptid3100
@cryptidscryptid3100 2 жыл бұрын
4:28 i love how the spider got scared that he only did 1 damage to wolfgang
@ximirux2408
@ximirux2408 2 жыл бұрын
crap should not have gotten myself into this
@roffylordnow3658
@roffylordnow3658 2 жыл бұрын
Galand vs escanor recreated
@outseeker
@outseeker 2 жыл бұрын
that's kind of a cool idea they could maybe implement somewhere for some character- enemies actually fleeing when their attacks are worthless XD
@footisman2059
@footisman2059 2 жыл бұрын
@@outseeker I mean, they do go away after hitting you few times if you use snurtle shell
@notgabriel8624
@notgabriel8624 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest this is really cool, it makes me actually interested in playing him because before he just didn’t appeal to to me being a straight up busted food goblin but I love the idea of having to work out, and also all the passive strongman buffs. I cannot stand having my speed hindered by the marble suit and piggy back so those buffs make them VERY appealing to me now.
@federicorodriguez451
@federicorodriguez451 2 жыл бұрын
Before: The Gorge After: The Forge
@notgabriel8624
@notgabriel8624 2 жыл бұрын
@@federicorodriguez451 couldn’t have said it better myself
@calabaresa
@calabaresa 2 жыл бұрын
@@federicorodriguez451 this made my day
@orangedontstarve
@orangedontstarve 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked using the piggyback before this update so this just makes it better
@Letycs
@Letycs 2 жыл бұрын
I literally never used Wolfgang for the same reason no matter how powerful he may have been. Now? I'd totally use him. I'd much rather him as he is than how he was, they did a great job with this update. Besides, you can always still use a walking cane for speed and when you've spent time playing characters that either don't have a speed bonus or you just barely used it, you're pretty much already used to regular speeds. I was worried about his rework having not even played him before, but now he sounds even more appealing and manageable.
@SpunkyDunk
@SpunkyDunk 2 жыл бұрын
Finally, the marble suit isn’t just for tanking a few specific bosses anymore. Long live Wolfgang!
@xxDrone95
@xxDrone95 2 жыл бұрын
The fuck, didn't expect to see you here. Love the vids
@SpunkyDunk
@SpunkyDunk 2 жыл бұрын
@@xxDrone95 thx, fun fact I’m a big Don’t Starve fan!
@OfficialThatOneGuy
@OfficialThatOneGuy 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Originally, the boss statues used boss drops, now they only require cut stone/marble.
@orangedontstarve
@orangedontstarve 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that I didn't know this says a lot about how often I make statues
@SirToastyToes
@SirToastyToes 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was pretty terrible, other than Moose you'd just rather have the actual item. Trading in your eyebrella making spring exponentially harder to get a deerclops figure was not worth it
@xtdycxtfuv9353
@xtdycxtfuv9353 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirToastyToes could you imagine if it was kept the same for bosses like celestial champion and stuff imagine doing all the prep and fight only to use the enlightened crown for a statue
@grandmagunsales2125
@grandmagunsales2125 2 жыл бұрын
@@SirToastyToes even then only one of you had an easier spring. Everyone else is running from tree to tree while one dude got an eyebrella
@irpanfauzi1160
@irpanfauzi1160 2 жыл бұрын
@@grandmagunsales2125 Don't Forget Pretty Parasol,Umbrella,Rain Coat,Rain hat,Miner hat and Football Helm to get 100% water resistance
@gokusgames
@gokusgames 2 жыл бұрын
I was impressed by some of the new features but The piggy bag truly made me smile :)
@ellipse9431
@ellipse9431 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure u were faster before
@1God1Fury
@1God1Fury 2 жыл бұрын
Local Wolfgang destroyed and stole Pigman houses and their butts
@mike8594
@mike8594 2 жыл бұрын
@_ Greed you were 5% slower as mighty before or more slower I believe
@ellipse9431
@ellipse9431 2 жыл бұрын
@@mike8594 wolf had 25% speed bonus I'm pretty sure at max hunger before so he was 10% faster than he is now with piggy
@hornet3036
@hornet3036 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna say I really appreciate the positive out-look on the rework. It's nice to see a DST youtuber provide another perspective on the update instead of claiming the update is supposedly tedious or the such. I'm really enjoying the update conceptually so far and I can't wait to see it reach it's full potential soon. Having constant values instead of linear scaling is insanely awesome!
@asciiftw3632
@asciiftw3632 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to know that Edgy Rick isn't here to watch this.
@microwavefork9306
@microwavefork9306 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the update I think it makes him more powerful and I never really cared about the speed buff
@forkgodsdescendant61
@forkgodsdescendant61 2 жыл бұрын
@@asciiftw3632 Same
@nobodyinparticular2870
@nobodyinparticular2870 2 жыл бұрын
@@asciiftw3632 If he wasnt some Conspiranoic Chinese obssesed Person, he probably would've quit dst anyways Just because of this update
@alfonshedstrom9859
@alfonshedstrom9859 2 жыл бұрын
@@asciiftw3632 Good thing Edgy Rick is just... wait wtf is his content, how has it gotten worse
@damoncarson1499
@damoncarson1499 2 жыл бұрын
Tossing dumbbells better stay a thing.
@filipsperl
@filipsperl 2 жыл бұрын
To complete the info: - Excercising costs hunger depending on how heavy the stuff is - Throwing or attacking with dumbells is a waste of durability (10%/5%/5%) - Wimpy recieves 20% more damage - Wimpy subtracts 60 winter/summer insulation from his clothes - Mighty has 60 insulation by default - All characters now carry heavy objects with 30% of normal speed (wolfgang does 60%) - You can only deconstruct potato sacks, which gives you potatoes duh - Wolfgang looses more sanity from darkness and shadows than before, unless he's close to other players
@cheezburgir2330
@cheezburgir2330 2 жыл бұрын
Eh the dumbell you start with is so useless might aswell use It for getting the attention of coalaphants to save some time chasing Them
@cameoflage
@cameoflage 2 жыл бұрын
Throwing dumbbells may not be a good way to use their durability, but it IS very funny.
@Herbert-west-re-animator
@Herbert-west-re-animator 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, gold is so easy to get and the basic dumbbell is so useless that you might as well bonk someone with it.
@filipsperl
@filipsperl 2 жыл бұрын
You're right, you can throw the basic dumbell since it's basically a cheaper boomerang! I just meant to say that if you wanted to get the best out of dumbells (at least the gold and gem ones) using them in other ways isn't that great.
@cheezburgir2330
@cheezburgir2330 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipsperl 👍
@emiliorojas9121
@emiliorojas9121 2 жыл бұрын
Wolfgang in a world he is a real hog, he just steals your meatballs and hogs all the food to rush the ruins and basically is all by himself, something that isn't really cooperative in a coop game, so this refresh is really well developed for that, making wolfgang a proud communist and not a greddy capitalist
@danielmatson4209
@danielmatson4209 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I love this view of it lol. He can be his true potato loving communist self.
@douglass.carvalho5
@douglass.carvalho5 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, they didn't change that lol
@danielmatson4209
@danielmatson4209 2 жыл бұрын
@@douglass.carvalho5 They definitely did. He doesn't consume 3x hunger in mighty form anymore. Just his normal 1.5x
@misters.3234
@misters.3234 2 жыл бұрын
Just because this game is co-op doesn't mean every character has to revolve around co-op not everyone plays with people on this game
@oyunlarnyolcusu8568
@oyunlarnyolcusu8568 2 жыл бұрын
@@misters.3234 just because you dont have friends doesnt mean everyone is same. wolfgang was a boring character with nothing to add to the team
@dragonslayer3552
@dragonslayer3552 2 жыл бұрын
He now has actual progression Webber gets better spider as he progresses Wanda gets more clocks and better ways to travel Wendy gets buffs for abby Wigfrid gets more hp regen per hit more weapon durability etc And so on Wolfgang had nothing and now he has more ways to keep his mightyness up my one consern is that other than the boss statue the rest can be easily achieved in the first few days
@hajimehinata5854
@hajimehinata5854 2 жыл бұрын
You can use the sus marbles as weights, but they aren't as good
@grandmagunsales2125
@grandmagunsales2125 2 жыл бұрын
"Local Wolfgang carries dead horse around for the sake of a workout"
@pustota7254
@pustota7254 2 жыл бұрын
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@dragonslayer3552
@dragonslayer3552 2 жыл бұрын
@@pustota7254 remember I can always like my own comment to ruin it
@pustota7254
@pustota7254 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonslayer3552 I can always unlike this comment.
@DERADI30
@DERADI30 2 жыл бұрын
While the speed boost will be thoroughly missed i think its the right choice for balance. It just pushed wolfgang from being the best in combat to being the best at almost everything. Gathering? Exploring? just pick wolfgang, hes 25% faster.
@xtdycxtfuv9353
@xtdycxtfuv9353 2 жыл бұрын
if you have enough food for constant 25% bonus
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 2 жыл бұрын
@@xtdycxtfuv9353 You'll find food 25% more often though and even if it is just a short burst... you still end up doing it faster.
@Kroban_d4c
@Kroban_d4c 2 жыл бұрын
@@xtdycxtfuv9353 cmon dude, its not that hard to get food in this game, you can easily have full hunger all the time with bacons and meatballs. All the wolfgangs i have seen are always at full speed full mighty because of that
@cookieelement3467
@cookieelement3467 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought that Wolfgang was way too simple and easy for his ridiculously good upsides. Extra hunger drain for ridiculous damage, extremely high health, and a speed boost. This new rework gives return on damage, has more in-depth mechanics, and lots of unique strong man features. Rework ftw.
@wrathybear
@wrathybear 2 жыл бұрын
to be fair, food was never an issue in this game
@cookieelement3467
@cookieelement3467 2 жыл бұрын
@@wrathybear Under that light, the best upsides around for a negligible downside! Rework all the way
@gary7846
@gary7846 2 жыл бұрын
it'd be nice if anyone else can also use the gym, but for a little buff, not 2x like wg cuz every character specific item should also benefits the team
@mihai-x-9351
@mihai-x-9351 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah!
@taleundere2610
@taleundere2610 2 жыл бұрын
Dont tell me grannay Wanda can lift like Arnold Swarxheneger or wtv
@RandomGuy0.
@RandomGuy0. 2 жыл бұрын
@@taleundere2610 staying fit at the age of 85
@taleundere2610
@taleundere2610 2 жыл бұрын
@@RandomGuy0. Everyone watch!Wanda will deadlift 5000 pounds
@DonPetexX
@DonPetexX 2 жыл бұрын
@@taleundere2610 I'll get the stack of popcorn
@joevahle2321
@joevahle2321 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta agree with you. I was worried when I saw the basic description on steam, but you've help me to think it over a bit more. Thanks for that.
@RandomGuy0.
@RandomGuy0. 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing i cared about in Wolfgang's rework is him becoming more interesting then eat stuff be buff, so rework is great
@mr.thomaswaffles6700
@mr.thomaswaffles6700 2 жыл бұрын
Same, it was the only thing holding me back from playing as him. Sure first winter may be difficult but after killing clops you can always stay buff
@hajimehinata5854
@hajimehinata5854 2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.thomaswaffles6700 Like you wouldn't always stay buff before deerclops. The gym is slower, not weaker
@Drekromancer
@Drekromancer 2 жыл бұрын
True, although I do miss _EAT STUFF BE BUFF_ as a literal strategy
@Ev3rardd
@Ev3rardd 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this rework actually. It basically makes wolfgang a lot more powerful in the late game but a bit more challenging in the early game
@Zayne285
@Zayne285 2 жыл бұрын
How exactly does the rework make him more challenging in the early game? Standing around waiting for a meter to go up to have constant 2x damage is more challenging than managing your hunger and constantly staying at 300?
@ellipse9431
@ellipse9431 2 жыл бұрын
I also don't get how it makes him lot more powerful
@Kelly-ju7nx
@Kelly-ju7nx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zayne285 “managing your hunger” food is so easy to get in the game that managing your hunger isn’t even a issue lmao
@Zayne285
@Zayne285 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kelly-ju7nx you're right. but only experienced players know how to constantly have enough food to stay mighty 24/7 as well as topping off your hunger DURING boss fights to stay at 2x damage. The rework just straight up lowers the skill ceiling because now you just stand around doing nothing to get constant 2x damage. If it was already easy then they made it even easier. Wolfgang was one of the least played characters so I've no doubt they did this on purpose to make him attractive to newer players
@Kelly-ju7nx
@Kelly-ju7nx 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zayne285 topping your hunger off during boss fights wasn’t that hard either. Carrots, juicy berries, potatoes, or even stone fruit have decent hunger and fast animations that can be used during boss fights if you don’t like the meat animation. Also I see nothing wrong with making a character more palatable for new players
@zanna2830
@zanna2830 2 жыл бұрын
I think the rework makes him weaker at just rushing bosses, which is a lot of the time I've seen people play him. But it makes him a more interesting and fun character to actually play long term, and I definitely prefer that to just being good at killing stuff. He's a strongman, not a warrior
@rivalzz2011
@rivalzz2011 2 жыл бұрын
Good way to put it
@Drekromancer
@Drekromancer 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. We have Wigfrid for fighting. I like how they're differentiating Wolfgang from her with these strongman abilities.
@Awesum
@Awesum 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drekromancer they are in the same spot they were before the Rework, what are you talking about..? All this Rework did was take his speed..he still has more dmg..except now he can use a piggyback and marblesuit. If anything it made them more similar
@mishagaming1075
@mishagaming1075 Жыл бұрын
@@Awesum Wolfgang actually does some stuff better now, like chopping trees or destroying rocks, and he still keeps the fighting bonus. Along with the utility of faster sailing and being able to run at normal speed with the piggy back and marble armor.
@xamicusmaligdus148
@xamicusmaligdus148 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your positivity instead of seeing the new changes and immediately disregarding the entire character
@zandbergx9747
@zandbergx9747 2 жыл бұрын
I've never liked playing Wolfgang much before, and I was groaning at the thought of yet another character with craftable items and a meter, but this looks genuinely fun and enjoyable to play
@SkeletonBoiiiii
@SkeletonBoiiiii 2 жыл бұрын
i would love to see edgy ricks reaction to this
@kemalatakankrca5608
@kemalatakankrca5608 2 жыл бұрын
Meh, I think we should stop caring about an obvious troll's opinion.
@Hilm
@Hilm 2 жыл бұрын
"pick one"
@jalilsadeq5587
@jalilsadeq5587 2 жыл бұрын
He quit
@BuetifullPersun
@BuetifullPersun 2 жыл бұрын
@@kemalatakankrca5608 wow, hateful much?
@kemalatakankrca5608
@kemalatakankrca5608 2 жыл бұрын
@Yoshikage Kira I don't see a problem for hating on an extremely self-righteous dude
@yuriaugusto1084
@yuriaugusto1084 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the rework it's exatcly my suggestion about how wolfgang should work in DST it's literraly the same. I'm glad Klei really listen to players feedback even if take years :v this rework is perfection.
@torirox011
@torirox011 2 жыл бұрын
This actually makes me want to play this character alot more, however it seems likke they are having the same issue as with the last character rework. They forot about the "together" part of the update, How does this make him a character people would want to team with.
@danielmatson4209
@danielmatson4209 2 жыл бұрын
He needs way less food to use his strength, so I think he is more team oriented now. Previously Wolfgang players would just expect others to keep them mighty and then fight like a single spider and say they contributed. Especially on public servers 😂
@Xeldren1
@Xeldren1 2 жыл бұрын
The same reason why a D&D party would want a barbarian; strength and constitution. Wolfgang can deal consistent damage while still being a front line tank. this goes together still with everyone. the only difference to before is WG is less of a food goblin raiding people's fridges and causing issues. You still need a good amount of food to keep him strong and the fact is that he dosn't take away from other characters. he's just a great character that can deal with bosses while still being adequate at fighting normal monsters. you now have something to do at night when your not exploring which is getting STRONK!
@SirToastyToes
@SirToastyToes 2 жыл бұрын
Carrying things is a pretty big one. Having a Walter/Wolfgang to cut down on heavy item carrying is very nice
@torirox011
@torirox011 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xeldren1 Whille i agree that he is now a great overall tank character, If we look at my main (wifrid), after her refresh she was given a community buff with her songs. Shes still a great tank, but now also provides a boost to those around her. Maybe if WG can allow others to use his workout stuff? Give the rest of the party a temp boost in str if they use it, or allow a tredmill to be build to buff the speed stat temp? Just ideas but i def still think they need to give something to the party.
@hajimehinata5854
@hajimehinata5854 2 жыл бұрын
@@torirox011 Wolfgang becomes a coach
@salendrak
@salendrak 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis!! Now I'm really excited to try it out myself!
@hajimehinata5854
@hajimehinata5854 2 жыл бұрын
did you play it?
@TealZero
@TealZero 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the dumbbell only runs
@helpme3230
@helpme3230 2 жыл бұрын
gotta say, there's something about this video that makes it better than what you usually make, it just feels so satisfying to watch i keep coming back to rewatch it but i can't touch on why, keep up the great work your videos are amazing!
@gamedifficulty_4230
@gamedifficulty_4230 2 жыл бұрын
I love the gym just because it gives something else that Wolfgang can do, I really want to see more character-specific actions like this in the future - it really helps brings more life to the camp rather than everyone just standing around aimlessly
@RenShinomiya121
@RenShinomiya121 2 жыл бұрын
imagining the dst gang just stands around waiting for sunrise before doing their daily activities again is still funny to me though.
@LordofFullmetal
@LordofFullmetal 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I'm playing Wolfgang in my current save - I love that at night, I eat and then have my workout routine. It gives me something to do and really does add life to the group.
@asimplecomplication832
@asimplecomplication832 2 жыл бұрын
This looks like a Wolfgang that I'd actually be interested in playing now
@caoinhnamkhanh2795
@caoinhnamkhanh2795 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know all of this. This rework is much better than his old version!
@SKITTISHEAR
@SKITTISHEAR 2 жыл бұрын
It's good because he's no longer the speedrunner's main.
@ber7967
@ber7967 2 жыл бұрын
yes he is but now there is some point of choosing someone else
@zurcus7224
@zurcus7224 2 жыл бұрын
Now Wes is, with speed balloons (:
@ber7967
@ber7967 2 жыл бұрын
@@zurcus7224 of course
@hajimehinata5854
@hajimehinata5854 2 жыл бұрын
@@zurcus7224 What about the item deficiency of use, and weaker, and insanity hits alot so more fighting shadow creatures? r/woooosh
@PschhhtVroom
@PschhhtVroom 2 жыл бұрын
2 vids within the hour? 👀👀
@DonPetexX
@DonPetexX 2 жыл бұрын
I like this is simple and completely in theme, having time 2 damage uptime for longer is a boon the speed lost is nothing when you see that you keep your speed while using a marble suit and an early 12 slot back pack with 0 downsides
@you-mc1py
@you-mc1py 2 жыл бұрын
He got a re-work, NICE
@skylerfisher4347
@skylerfisher4347 2 жыл бұрын
Basically they reworked his speed into a different kind of speed. The speed that would have been just direct speed is now speedier heavy items, like marble suits, piggybacks, suspicious marbles, etc. He's still fast, just a different kind of fast!
@artroniajones7451
@artroniajones7451 2 жыл бұрын
Yo thanks for this! At first i thought it was just a straight nerf but now im actually digging it! It adds both lore and a few cool mechanics which is neat. Plus the whole "No piggy back speed debuff" Is awesome. Great vid!
@ber7967
@ber7967 2 жыл бұрын
actually what about adding a treadmill/funny running circle, that other survivors can use to get back his speed boost but having the speed boost and strength will make hunger go down super fast (one or the other and if you have both get increased hunger drain other survivors can ONLY use the treadmill for the boost so no strength)
@notgabriel8624
@notgabriel8624 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a GREAT idea!
@ber7967
@ber7967 2 жыл бұрын
thank you notgabriel
@therandomguy1701
@therandomguy1701 2 жыл бұрын
I really like this change, just want more interactable equipments, also really stocked to see wolfgang lore animation
@tytan555
@tytan555 2 жыл бұрын
Wow two videos in one day! OrangE man is very kind for us today.
@GreedyGabriel
@GreedyGabriel 2 жыл бұрын
2:10 "It sounds expensive" * Laughs in Varg Farm *
@orangedontstarve
@orangedontstarve 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you winona
@hajimehinata5854
@hajimehinata5854 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it a purple gem tho?
@GreedyGabriel
@GreedyGabriel 2 жыл бұрын
@@hajimehinata5854 you can craft it with red and blue gems
@hajimehinata5854
@hajimehinata5854 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreedyGabriel Ooh yeaaaaaaah i forgot about the refining tab
@yairgomez9090
@yairgomez9090 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why tf he was unable yo carry marble statues when mighty, this is such a Nice rework!!!
@ebombcdxx
@ebombcdxx 2 жыл бұрын
as a wolfgang main, I love this, as the marble suit used to be usless. now, it's better than a football hemlet
@dexobj
@dexobj 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice job done by Klei once again. If you want to be faster with him early you have Ruins rush and/or Beefalos.
@hajimehinata5854
@hajimehinata5854 2 жыл бұрын
why ruins rush?
@dexobj
@dexobj 2 жыл бұрын
@@hajimehinata5854 thulecite club or a chance for lazy explorer
@calabaresa
@calabaresa 2 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best reworks we got so far!
@DonPetexX
@DonPetexX 2 жыл бұрын
Simple and in theme I like it
@Bean_Lord531
@Bean_Lord531 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonPetexX same
@Wolf-kx8li
@Wolf-kx8li 2 жыл бұрын
tbh i think the rework fits, though i am sad to see the speed buff going away i feel like being consistent was a much better upside, you move consistently, no matter what, that fits the character and i'd rather it be that way, never played the character that much but this is relatively balanced for a character thats easy to forget how broken he is when given the right stuff
@vicenteperez2136
@vicenteperez2136 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that mighty bar says up for a whole ass day instead of 30 damn seconds into a fight is amazing to me wolfgang is one character i never really wanted to play but i can actually see myself playing him now hes just way less grindy now
@terrariangolden6985
@terrariangolden6985 2 жыл бұрын
the marble armor thing is almost broken, worth the trade for speed buff removal
@thesamon123
@thesamon123 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that Wes can give movement speed balloons aswell!
@outseeker
@outseeker 2 жыл бұрын
wes has no place in this game. :D
@Nampledamp
@Nampledamp 2 жыл бұрын
The golden dumbbell reminded me of a fun fact: Gold isn't a hard metal and is quite soft as you know, but that trade off in hardness goes in toughness. A gold tool in real life would be less efficient, but *more* durable. So technically all the gold tools hold some truth.
@benton9999
@benton9999 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Mighty had a different attack animation to emphasize the power behind each strike
@tianliang1230
@tianliang1230 2 жыл бұрын
Wolfgang actually didn't lose much of his speed. Old Wolfgang had to wear armor + milk hat or helmet + hunger belt. New Wolfgang can wear helmet + Magiluminescence, which gives 20% speed boost.
@Zayne285
@Zayne285 2 жыл бұрын
Literally no Wolfgang player has ever used the milk hat or belt of hunger because it's pointless if you know how to manage his hunger and constantly top it off, even during the kiting patterns of bosses. This rework is just lowering his skill ceiling unfortunately
@certif155
@certif155 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone has ever used milk hat, hunger belt. I used magi
@jimbo2947
@jimbo2947 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Zayne285 It makes a character more casual and team-orientated for a long-term world (of which the majority of the playerbase actually does) in a multiplayer game? GASP! The blasphemy!
@plaguedoctor8689
@plaguedoctor8689 2 жыл бұрын
I like that you picked Summer Jobs as a background for this video, honestly, I think Summer Jobs is something like our Russian Bear's theme.
@darthvaderreviews6926
@darthvaderreviews6926 2 жыл бұрын
Removal of the speed is IMO a good thing to balance him out. He feels like a more focused version of his original design, his _core_ of dealing the most damage out of everyone is better than ever, he has a few extra bonuses that help him feel different, _and_ with the speed getting cut out he's no longer as universally combat dominant, making a little room for the other combat centric characters. Very well executed rework.
@Games4Life7712
@Games4Life7712 9 ай бұрын
He also gets mighty with working (chopping, mining, hammering, etc)
@nervescooldown5594
@nervescooldown5594 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they should add a feature where if you do a heavy work like mining rock and cutting tree(not picking grass or stick),it can also make your mighty meter goes up.
@AKU666
@AKU666 2 жыл бұрын
Maintaining mightness became more easy and boring. Before it's urged me being active and kill everything that i see (mostly spiders and eat cooked monster meat) or going for lichen in ruins.
@_JulianAlexander_
@_JulianAlexander_ 2 жыл бұрын
this video got released on by birthday and its a really good present!
@orangedontstarve
@orangedontstarve 2 жыл бұрын
You get two
@_JulianAlexander_
@_JulianAlexander_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@orangedontstarve And there amazing videos!
@jaythewolf7216
@jaythewolf7216 2 жыл бұрын
yeah throwing the dumbbells at people and monsters is pretty epic
@CosmoTheFluffubunny
@CosmoTheFluffubunny 2 жыл бұрын
People realizing Orange posted twice in one day: impossible
@AlperdincOG
@AlperdincOG 2 жыл бұрын
i tried the update but didnt knew half of the stuff so, i know what main im becoming for a while
@federicorodriguez451
@federicorodriguez451 2 жыл бұрын
Before: The Gorge After: The Forge
@ponga_6855
@ponga_6855 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy they are taking away the speed buff... it was way too good, getting a speed buff on top of everything else by just eating food while the other characters need to wear items, usually expensive ones. Standing still lifting dumbbells it's gonna get old real fast though, I hope they implement different ways to gain mightiness.
@xawt4life3
@xawt4life3 2 жыл бұрын
OrangE Eats Apple. OrangE Eats Fruit. OrangE Eats Meat. OrangE Eats Animals. OrangE Is Desperate. OrangE Eats Seeds. OrangE Eats Rot. OrangE Starts to Starve. OrangE Eats People. OrangE is in the Bushes. OrangE sees his Next Meal. OrangE goes for The Kill. You take your Final Breath. Now, OrangE Eats You. *insert jump scare Edit: and worst of all, OrangE Eats Orange.
@cedb3360
@cedb3360 2 жыл бұрын
Speed removal was very needed for balance. It doesnt even make sens that the big goon is the fastest
@Kirokill1
@Kirokill1 2 жыл бұрын
Time to install a gym by the fuelweaver so you can use bosses to pump some muscle before muscling a boss.
@alkaliaurange
@alkaliaurange 2 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping that the marble suit/piggyback would work without penalty-- I'm glad they did that. He really could be the team tank now.
@juki_loves_wigfrid9220
@juki_loves_wigfrid9220 2 жыл бұрын
thanks god there is at least 1 dst content maker whos smart. gg orange.
@spoonicus
@spoonicus 2 жыл бұрын
you've changed my view on the rework thank you orange man rook on top
@Failzz8
@Failzz8 2 жыл бұрын
I don't dislike the rework, but i wish there was an option to gain might quickly like a somewhat expensive consumable or something.
@Batkin_Art
@Batkin_Art 2 жыл бұрын
looks like a super fun update!
@JaOcSeH
@JaOcSeH 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a DST pro or anything so I might be missing something but this only seems like straight buffs to me. I'm very interested in playing this rework
@dano7782
@dano7782 2 жыл бұрын
Wolfgang mains : noooooo they nerfed Wolfgang he is trash now T_T Me a Wigfrid enjoyer : hehe best girl goes tank :D
@manapotu6623
@manapotu6623 2 жыл бұрын
average "f" fan?
@Digii62
@Digii62 2 жыл бұрын
It was very good!!! Look on the bright side, he lasts a lot, he farms bird / meat / feather throwing weight on them kkkkkkkkk carries heavy stuff fast xD} Besides, he can use marble suit and piggypack without movement penalty.
@dano7782
@dano7782 2 жыл бұрын
@@Digii62 yeah i like this update :) i wrote that comment just for the meme lol
@isolatedegg3234
@isolatedegg3234 2 жыл бұрын
I think instead of doing exersize and weight lifting should have been the same mighty but actually gain it from doing physical activities like chopping and mining so he cant just be staying at base waiting for wicker and webber comes back with food. Right now the base staying camping combat wolfgang problem still exists, and instead of lifting weights it should be investing time into actual utility
@LordofFullmetal
@LordofFullmetal 2 жыл бұрын
Realistically, the devs can only do so much to force people to play fair without literally ruining the fun of the game. If you play with other people, you're accepting to a degree that some of those people are going to suck. If you don't like that, either play with people you know or play single player. That's what I do.
@biasmushroom6311
@biasmushroom6311 2 жыл бұрын
They put a lot of thought into it. Got something nice out of it!
@IG33Z
@IG33Z 2 жыл бұрын
This rework honestly makes more sence to me, and since most other characters have some niche ways to get their power spikes I really like his workout addition
@canovar9630
@canovar9630 2 жыл бұрын
im unraveling my wolfgang skins
@canovar9630
@canovar9630 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the video, im buying them back from the shop
@orangedontstarve
@orangedontstarve 2 жыл бұрын
Character arc
@canovar9630
@canovar9630 2 жыл бұрын
mhm
@teo9619
@teo9619 2 жыл бұрын
I completly agree with you. Nice job
@felixedwards3003
@felixedwards3003 2 жыл бұрын
Yo what he can throw his dumbbells as a weapon?! Amazing! Thumbs up for me, thematically it fits his strongman character. I wreckon tonnes of people will start playing him more with his heavy lifting skills. Especially with the marble suit, piggyback and shadow pieces boss being less accessible before.
@bagelpenguin6499
@bagelpenguin6499 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see wolfgang's rework trailer.
@rattle_me_bones
@rattle_me_bones 2 жыл бұрын
I've just started to play this game, and while I have no idea of the DS "Meta" or how most mechanics work in practice, in concept, this change just seems proper.
@thevortex1904
@thevortex1904 2 жыл бұрын
It does make sense, especially his speed, since wolfgang has strong upper body strength
@federicorodriguez451
@federicorodriguez451 2 жыл бұрын
I need this now.
@FelipeGames-py4gr
@FelipeGames-py4gr 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the removal of speed modifiers is better, since no longer have to suffer with slow speed if you're (somehow) stuck with wimpy form
@MrIKicker
@MrIKicker 2 жыл бұрын
Only thing I really used him for was the speed bonus; damage was never a issue
@klocha5516
@klocha5516 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you used boat crash screen
@Herbert-west-re-animator
@Herbert-west-re-animator 2 жыл бұрын
Wolfgang was a powerlifter before the constant, so it makes sense that he would incorporate that into his new life.
@AA40002
@AA40002 2 жыл бұрын
Considering looking at Wolfgang work out makes me hear the song "you got that" and makes me want to work out while the only other form of entertainment to do that was dragon Ball z, I would say that this was a very positive change indeed
@arkslippyjunior7773
@arkslippyjunior7773 2 жыл бұрын
The bundling wrap could be good on Wolfgang as an early game way to carry lots of wood and stone and other materials we need lots of or take up too much space in your inventory to carry like tall bird eggs etc and leave them at a base location for assembly later
@xtdycxtfuv9353
@xtdycxtfuv9353 2 жыл бұрын
the bundling wrap is good with every character, it just means you have to fight bee queen 🤮
@arkslippyjunior7773
@arkslippyjunior7773 2 жыл бұрын
@@xtdycxtfuv9353 I might be thinking of the wrong item Isn't there one that is carried on your back like a marble piece?
@xtdycxtfuv9353
@xtdycxtfuv9353 2 жыл бұрын
@@arkslippyjunior7773 no there isn't
@merefailninja953
@merefailninja953 2 жыл бұрын
Wolfgang is here to PUMP YOU UP!
@Nothing2late2sad
@Nothing2late2sad 2 жыл бұрын
After this video I'm actually excited for the rework
@G-Forces
@G-Forces 2 жыл бұрын
Well I used to be a Wigfred main because only being able to eat meat was more fun than just eating more food. I like the changes to Wolfgang and I think I will play him now.
@pizza9281
@pizza9281 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god! They made Wolfgang an actually REAL person, I mean they made him more realistic, still sad that he isnt the demonslayer he was, the gym and dumbell are interesting.
@DenajM25
@DenajM25 2 жыл бұрын
i finally dont have to lock the frindge
@al8-.W
@al8-.W 2 жыл бұрын
Wolfgang was already my go-to character for playing alone, but I never could really enjoy the end game stuff like killing the dragonfly. Now, he's an ever more viable option. Let's get to work!
@mrdeadflower
@mrdeadflower 2 жыл бұрын
Now he's realistic, and even more fun to play now!
@tasya_nabila
@tasya_nabila 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's not that bad. Stoping few minutes maybe while waiting for the night to pass or just don't know what to do. But yeah it's tedious. I tried Wolfgang in my new server today. But it's better compare to keep hunting for keeping his mighty form
@subnighterhawk1535
@subnighterhawk1535 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a fine rework, but i will miss the fluctuating HP. It made it interesting to let yourself go wimpy so you get 1.5x healing from items/food. I personally preferred the speed boost but since you are mighty more consistently with this new one it seems fine. Guess we will see.
@Hypn01013
@Hypn01013 2 жыл бұрын
You can also be at max mightiness you break rocks and chop trees in less hits
@ThrusterMcBuster
@ThrusterMcBuster 2 жыл бұрын
A dst KZbinr that doesn’t just get pissed at every rework? Impossible
@qsk2948
@qsk2948 2 жыл бұрын
Never played him but now il actually try him
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