Is Your Morgan Dollar Cleaned? How To Identify Cleaned Morgan Dollars

[@markjohnson9445]

Thanks for video. Just got back today A big box of coins I sent in for grading that I had bought in the eighties and nineties. Most came back cleaned. And I was not the one that did it. It was most likely the coin dealer I used at the time.

[@asc-dq7lx]

Even with this video being 5 years old, this was one of the most helpful I've seen on cleaned coins. Thank you!

[@morgansinner]

Your explanation on the reflective behavior really helped ! Many thanks !

[@evenruderanger7617]

I LOVED your video on the toned seated quarter that you turned into a choice coin that anybody would get googly eyes for! Your laugh in the intro after you asked "did I mess it up? Well..." (then you laughed) It was CLASSIC!

[@chachcadi271]

I got into numismatics a long time ago when my grandfather gave me 1921 Peace dollar. It looked kind of dirty so I soaked it in lemon juice overnight. A few months later when I really started getting into the hobby I was really bummed out when I realized what I had done.

[@evenruderanger7617]

Don't worry about it! If your grandpa gave it to you, its still a great coin! What's your best coin or two you have picked up over the years?

[@conradpons9238]

You are absolutely spot on about photos being doctored to make a coin look better than it really is. Very good information about the Morgan's sir. Appreciate it. 👍

[@bl7121]

I think you did a great job describing cleaned coins. I do have a couple of comments though. NGC and PCGS clean coins. They call it conservation. If done properly cleaning a coin may be necessary. If your doing it to deceive for profit then that's obviously a negative. However, some coins, for instance, a proof like coin may have hazy fields. Well sometimes when dipped properly by a skilled professional like yourself Daniel know when a dip will give a coin a possibility at DMPL. So there are really two types of cleaning. Cleaning that's done for profit by altering the coins appearance. Then there is conservation to improve a coins appearance typically for a reason. I believe that 99.9% of all coin dealers have cleaned a coin. Some have cleaned thousands. It was done for profit. Again if done properly it can help a coin. The examples you showed definetly drove your point home. You talked about the negative side of cleaning/conservation and it's a shame. I just wanted to add another dimension to this video. Very well done Daniel.

[@fudd3087]

Thank you sir for an excellent lesson. I recently took some Morgan's to a local dealer who spotted a fake before I handed it to him, I asked him how? He said that he'd seen a few over the years, lol, I was amazed and po'd at the same time I thought maybe it was cleaned. I guess the new collectors may run into this problem, but the simple fact is that he had nicer coins in BU than I could have bought on ebay for that year and more, food for thought. Your lessons are great!!

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you. I also have a video on how to identify counterfeit Morgan Dollars kzbin.info/www/bejne/bX21YWOQZdF5mKc

[@b-man1232]

I'm 4-years late, but great video!! I've been burned so many times with Morgans! I'm buying slabbed coins ONLY going forward!!!

[@sparkyjones560]

Look Daniel, I appreciate what you are doing and your obviously knowledgeable and I learn things from you. For 36 years I never wore gloves handling coin of course all of my coins have seen some sort of circulation even if very minute and still in MS grades, like contact marks and stuff. It's when I got into proof coins is where I really felt that gloves were necessary. I've seen some really nasty fingerprints on proof coins and feel like gloves are the best option as opposed to nothing at all with them. I will agree it's kind of unnecessary with all MS or lower coins but when it comes to PR coins I feel a finger or palm print on the mirrored field is problematic.

[@CoinHELPu]

You just don't touch anything but the rim. If you're careful about not touching the coin then no fingerprints. If you're putting them in an album I can see using something to press them in. However, in the albums they're susceptible to getting issues. Also the people who handle enough proof to matter don't wear gloves. I don't and I have never ruined a proof.

[@swilliams937]

Great video. Very helpful. My favorite year and mint of the Morgan series is 1881-S. You can get a phenomenal looking Morgan at a reasonable price.

[@FrankTruslow]

Thanks...more GREAT information!! I've been buying and selling coins for decades and I still learn things from these videos. Best coin instructional videos I've ever seen.

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you that mean a lot to me. Seriously!

[@everettwhite9874]

Best of Any!!! I thought I went through most if not all of your videos comparing Morgan and Peace dollars and how to point out cleaned coins and stuff and, I don’t know how I overlooked this one but I’m glad I found it now. This is the BEST video I’ve seen to help me compare my Morgan’s with those in the video and better understand what exactly to look for in cleaned coins. I will be looking at these first thing in the morning. Thanks. Did I tell you thank you? Well, I meant it. 😇🤗

[@ronschneider1870]

Another great video Daniel! Now I know what to look for in Morgan Silver dollars and on other coins! The original frosty layer on the coins! Thank you Daniel for showing us the difference in the coins!

[@rsitch1]

Wow!!! Thank you Daniel… Buyer beware!!! Education is key… Bob

[@josephlenahan5768]

Thank you for taking the time to educate people. It is much appreciated

[@CoinHELPu]

You're welcome

[@adityato2565]

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[@gregmccoy8311]

Thank you,your info is very helpful and right on time.Ive just started on Morgan Dollars and could use all the help in the world.Thanks again

[@vyesitsme9203]

Alright whoa I can see the difference between the 2 coins ! Cleaned Morgan’s I will definitely check from now on, these are my very favorites! I see that one to (fire) ! I found something new today! I love it CoinHelpU 👍🎈👍 Always interesting! Great information 🌈😎👍V

[@55ense5imulation4]

You are my favorite coin guy on KZbin. You have a great knowledge, and you are the wealth of information for the little guy. You have helped me so much and I appreciate you. 🙌

[@CoinHELPu]

You're welcome and thank you!

[@evenruderanger7617]

I agree. CoinhelpU and CoinGeek are tied for my favorites! I bet they would have a fun time hanging out!

[@jumemowery9434]

Another good one! Thanks Daniel!

[@chickenmanfarmer1570]

thank you....i'm not confident enough to buy numismatics but i do enjoy your presentations.

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you. I hope you do eventually.

[@cness849]

Thanks for sharing you playbook. Your technical expertise is hard to come by for free. Stay safe. Keep being awesome !

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you

[@0aach0]

Subbed. Thanks for the help, very nice to see a great tutorial of what to look for, or what not to look for, ect.. Typically I just buy the morgans for weight, and if the price is right ($18-20), I'll purchase regardless of condition, depending on spot of course.. However, I'm infatuated with the 1881 morgans since that puts the coin exactly 100 years older than I am, so I'll buy those at $25+ish on ebay..

[@ulexite-tv]

Well done! And, after reading the comments -- i am another fan of the 1881 Morgan. It's a great looking coin in a special year-date. Numerology meets numismatics!

[@Wylie5.0]

Man Daniel that made me look At my Morgan's right away To see if they have been cleaned (Safe) Here Well so far.. Thanks for the Share ! Have a Blessed Day..

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you!

[@maximvanholt6189]

Thank you for generously sharing your wealth of numismatic knowledge

[@RealtorInThe828]

Thank you so much for your time and expertise Daniel. So informative.

[@peterhaynes8258]

EXCELLENT Video, I think you need to be a very experienced coin collector, to really see a cleaned coin, It seems very difficult/easy to make a mistake when checking, anyway thank you Sir, Best Wishes from across the pond.

[@h0wardprokopchuk28]

An0ther great vedio an wow how easy it is to see a cleaned coin compared to a normal luster coin.Made it so simple to know the difference.Unless u get someone who angles it right so u can't see this when they show it on line.Atleast if u know who to buy from don't have to worry about that.Whitch I know it would be u.If don't see vedio before christmas,Merry Christmas Dan!

[@charliepugh9436]

Thanks so muck Just started collecting and this helped a lot

[@garykane7354]

I us finger to hold coins, and i use a sonic cleaner on my coins if there really dirty. But i see what you mean great video.

[@regisidec5478]

I only buy in NGC or PCGS CAC certified Morgan’s This way you don’t ever have to worry about purchasing someone else’s crap

[@CoinHELPu]

Honestly that is not foolproof either.

[@rogermartin6732]

I I am a smaller dealer but have sent probably 35 to 40 Morgan's into pcgs that I have dipped in silver cleaner from Walmart and all have been graded ms62 thru ms66 without any being designated as improperly cleaned. So I guess it depends on what chemicals are used. I know it is a crap shoot but so far there has been no problems.

[@CoinHELPu]

Yes. You can properly cleaned Morgan Dollars and almost all dealers do it. It's when you use something not diluted with water and try to "whizz" out the contact marks is improper cleaning.

[@gregm8522]

Unlike many, apparently you have control of your dilution, immersion dwell and technique. Congratulations! You are in the distinct minority compared to so many who clean without understanding and without proper controls.

[@CampbellsCoins]

Another excellent video! I appreciate you keeping to the facts and leaving the emotion out of it. I have a feeling some peoples' heads are exploding over your glove comments haha.

[@CoinHELPu]

Yes, you can guarantee that. Thanks!

[@duanedas5346]

Thanks for all your help ... please keep it up Thank you...

[@kylekosmo328]

Great video Daniel 👍 don't let the thumbs down get to you bro they are called trolls. Also I don't wear gloves except when I handle proof coins.. Any true Numismatist uses bare hands and utilizes rim handling. I have found a few transitionals because they felt strange.. you can't feel a coins history through a glove.

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you!

[@micheltremblay8207]

very interesting and informative....thanks DAN for Your dedication to us All...!!!!...have an Exellent Day...!!!

[@strangeaf7029]

Thank you Mr. Daniel. I appreciate all your content:)

[@typeviic1]

I think its fair to say that a cleaned, uncirculated Morgan is the BIG DEAL here. Now, if it were a cleaned, heavily worn, almost good 1921 Morgan, then most would not get too worked up about it.

[@dalelowe7396]

I have a 1881 1884 1878 1822 is a cc Carson City and I keep watching your video trying to study if they've been cleaned or not I'm 100% sure they have not I bought them at the pawn shop at the bottom of the hill 5 days ago Morgan silver dollars

[@RobShutt357]

Thanks Daniel, as always you have very informative content.

[@ronaldashwell5893]

Much appreciated! You always teach me valuable information 😀

[@blackmountaingold4350]

Great detailed information Daniel. Thanks for another enjoyable video. I can't wait for you to make the next one. Let's keep those likes coming people.

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you!

[@markdelaney1384]

Well done Daniel. Very helpful. And while I appreciate the appeal of pristine MS and DMPL Morgans, I’ve come to appreciate the well-circulated coins.

[@solaz1962]

Daniel, Great Video. I Learned very much. Thank you.

[@CoinHELPu]

You're welcome!

[@BigSteve98]

Thank You for your insights!

[@enayatkhalaf5898]

Thanks Dan

[@ronniejoe9300]

Great info on the morgan thanks for sharing .

[@DokDream]

I buy Morgan silver dollars as a hedge against inflation. I chose Morgans due to their beauty, intrinsic value, and concomitant recognizability. I am not attempting to collect a set and I routinely clean the ones I buy because I enjoy their brilliance. When push comes to shove, I can trade a "cull" Morgan for food or other goods without the regret a collector who paid hundreds or thousands of dollars for one coin will feel when he becomes desperate. I'm not sneering at collectors; I merely am acknowledging that there is more than one reason to acquire Morgans. The only thing that really rattles my chains are that I have to pay TAX to acquire what is, after all, just money!

[@ronaldwells1805]

Thanks Daniel that was a real good video

[@oldmanmac5184]

Good info, especially if stalking eBay deals, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,side note, if you have time in one of your videos to explain to everyone, I sent a 1953 d ddo to ngc, they deamed it to have been "Whizzed" and would not encapsulate it, so should they have encapsulated it and labeled it whizzed since it had been paid for, or, save themselves the time and money by simply sending it back in a flip labeled whizzed ? I have seen them both ways and like more and more the grading system you spoke of about four video's past, where every coin gets equal rights, If you have time, I know yall stay busy, Anyway enjoyed the video, ,,,,Keep em coming,

[@juanmanuelmorales1990]

Good information, I needed to know that thankyou.

[@CoinHELPu]

You're welcome!

[@TIOMKIN1]

A Excellent Video. I learn quite a lot. Thanks. Out.

[@timothyloyd8519]

Thanks you are the best.

[@flordelinabaradi5438]

Very nice information. Thank you for sharing. ❤

[@CoinHELPu]

You're welcome!

[@jameskerry3826]

Thank you. Good info.

[@andrewhart6200]

This is imperative information and I thank you for it - what I realllllly need is some examples of proof-like's that are cleaned vs normal ones - I've got an 1880-s in a NGC slab @ ms64-PL vs a 1878-s, 1881-s, 1885, and 1886 and 1897-s and I cannot tell the difference between them muuuuuch...but I got them from a reputable source that weren't cleaned to their knowledge. I see that your PL is pretty easy to see with the scrubbing lines but what about when you DON'T have the differential color from the fields? I probably should include pictures but I think we both have the same opinion of the internet and people's picture taking skills when it comes to coins - LOL ;). Anyhow - have you got any examples of non-obvious coins that are PL but are simply missing that extra die polish/differential in color - it's just far from cameo but still VERY PL infact the mirrors are DMPL but not dark except in a few especially as the dates get newer...? Help?

[@socalsilver6397]

👍🏼

[@ONAPAL3HORS3986]

It would be real cool to see a cleaned coin vs uncleaned under electron microscope

[@leebrewer1190]

Excellent education as always!

[@blackshep8988]

My 1879 s rev 78 was ngc graded and came back “ cleaned “ VF details . Pop :1 Should still fare ok if I ever sell .

[@trackpackgt877]

Okay so finally somebody explains how you can spot cleaned versus original bu so what you're saying is when it's struck it makes the silver look different and once there's tarnish even if it's cleaned it'll never look the same as it did when it was brand new struck? But what about tarn-x dipping them won't they look original?

[@justmeinflorida33542]

How can you tell if it's a toner? I have a 1900 and she's stunningly antique. No rainbowed or anything just a beautiful toned antique look. I was told it was probably cleaned but I see no signs of that, I posted her on a Toner Tuesday and I was told by a few people that she was the most gorgeous toner they ever saw.

[@strange-universe]

great examples, thanks!

[@fissh29]

Just sub'd...love the content...any chance of doing a capped bust half cleaning video...even when in hand its hard to tell if they have been cleaned sometimes...thanks and cheers!

[@CoinHELPu]

Thanks for watching. You never know but it's about the same as my cleaned coin videos. I have a playlist on them.

[@goldscorpion8137]

Good to know i was using gloves...

[@Climb_Trees]

Good info. Thanks

[@charlieglover491]

Interesting. All my coins are dirty. Is vinegar and salt a good method to use for cleaning.

[@CoinHELPu]

Don't clean any of them. That is your business not mine.

[@gregm8522]

No! Please don’t. Salt is abrasive and vinegar is an acid that will strip the top micro-layer.

[@bigfootsilverhideseeker2856]

Well I am for sure happy now lol Thanks for the educational info Bud!

[@CoinHELPu]

You're welcome and glad for that!

[@bigfootsilverhideseeker2856]

@@CoinHELPu you are a great community Role model. Straight up!

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you, means a lot to me.

[@zeppoyoung8182]

What do you mean by it goes down the slide okay? what is the slide? thanks!

[@AmericanWoodlandRelics]

Tank you for this video. I'm just getting into coin collecting and this helps when buying silver. Now does that go for all silver coins

[@CoinHELPu]

Yes. most silver coins do have similar appearances when cleaned but not always when they're original.

[@mattiesummerville3259]

I got a morgan dollar from an estate sale in arecipe tin box put it in a bag with other coin the plastic came off look like it got a raise by other coins in the bag I want to sell it will braise keep it from being sold?

[@larrymixen7145]

Very good information

[@elizabethtopaczewska5930]

Very interesting Thanks,l wish to have some information about 20$ American gold 1897 ,1906, 1881, in silver 1$ 1891, 1928.

[@CoinHELPu]

Ask and post in the CoinHELPu Community.

[@andrewhart6200]

Hey do you have a video that addresses the "marks on the cheek from the mint that look like a brush?"

[@CoinHELPu]

Nope

[@geraldpattonsr662]

What does the M on the bottom of the neck of the morgan stand fore

[@CoinHELPu]

Morgan

[@wahabsayed3454]

Danial I have Morgan Dollar that has no Date but it is oregnal, what I can do?

[@66block84]

Great video. One question, I purchased lots of junk Morgan & Peace dollars on the run up to the last peak in 2011. All the coin dealers said don't clean them. I would say, well you are selling them to me as junk Morgans, and some were very dirty, so why is it that I can't clean them with say MS-70 just to get the grime off of them?

[@CoinHELPu]

You can clean your coins just don't expect them to not looked cleaned or decrease in value from being cleaned.

[@enayatkhalaf5898]

Dan I found a penny 2014 brown color is this

[@meocon218]

💞

[@tonizumpano7454]

Great as always.

[@CoinHELPu]

Thank you

[@NGCoinslove]

This Video is Fantastic,Great Episode Super from YF in Ytube of Morocco.

[@NGCoinslove]

Thank you

[@LemonHeadPenny]

Great Video brother!

[@vijaygophane8952]

Sir we have same like that

[@goldslinger]

What I’m unclear of is how many grades lower do u grade a coin if it’s been lightly dipped professionally? Also how many grades if scrubbed. I’m guessing 2 grades

[@verlonmckay2346]

Very great video . You also have a great day

[@CoinHELPu]

You too and thanks!

[@Ontario100]

Great Information! 👍

[@jhad3n]

Can you please tell me what the definition of cleaned means? Does that mean soap and water clean, does that mean baking soda and vinegar clean, or does that mean using some sort of mild acidic solution? Thanks in advance

[@CoinHELPu]

All of that is cleaning a coin

[@leonthomas1406]

I see the haterz dislike your video

[@CoinHELPu]

Yep. As always

[@lincolncentralcoins1452]

Another great Video 👍

[@stevethompson3664]

question, please tell me is it safer buying coins that are slabbed or is that tainted too. I am sick of buying coins on ebay that were cleaned and i had to send them back, big hassle. Any suggestions or just buy from someone you know?

[@CoinHELPu]

But from sellers with good reputations and have brick and mortar shops.

[@yaeyaemartinll3091]

Hey I watch all your videos....I'm new to coin collecting.well I brought a Morgan dollar from a pawnshop 1883 O but the coin is mirror like on the fields an the head the whole coin reverse too ..so I'm wondering if it was cleaned to look like that are is it a proof idk..Any idea???

[@CoinHELPu]

It could be but no one can tell you unless they can see it.

[@yaeyaemartinll3091]

@@CoinHELPu ok where can I post it so u can see it are should I take it to a coin shop an ask them ?

[@MrDigsit1]

Can you do some on pennies. I can’t afford Morgan’s...lol

[@CoinHELPu]

I did kzbin.info/www/bejne/fWfQioOleK5kkKs I have 90 videos up and have a few more on pennies that you should be interested in.

[@leonthomas1406]

Need some half dollar videos

[@CoinHELPu]

Search my videos I made some

[@silverfan2196]

Hey bud i got a question i was on ebay and there is a auction on a really good 1883 S it's not graded but to my eye's it looks like a 64 unc theres one day left and im the highest bid at 20 dollar's the seller got a positive feed back across the board but this coin looks like it should be selling in the hundred of dollar's. What do you think could it be a fake morgan.

[@CoinHELPu]

I bet it's cleaned. You don't sell a UNC 1883 s unless it is graded.

[@silverplanchet]

so how much is a cleaned 1923-D Peace Silver Dollar ANACS AU-50 Details

[@silverplanchet]

I just bought one for $37.00

[@CoinHELPu]

Use ebay sold auctions on that

[@silverplanchet]

@@CoinHELPu Nothing Ever Listed I have searched

[@CoinHELPu]

You're never going to get an exact value on a cleaned coin so you have to make an educated guess based on what you can find. www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=1923+d+anacs+au+details&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

[@dhall10067]

Proof coins versus con-proofs.

[@Arbeitsamt47]

Kann mir jemanden erklären was an einer gereinigten Münze so schlimm ist ? Ich verstehe das Video nicht ganz

[@geraldpattonsr662]

Does all fake morgans have the m on them.

[@CoinHELPu]

I've not see every fake out there

[@DarthStacker]

I have a terrible eye for this kind of stuff.