Gardens Of The Moon: Building Habitable Ecosystems on Earth's Natural Satellite

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Isaac Arthur

Isaac Arthur

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@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 2 ай бұрын
Happy Birthday Skynet! Skynet begins to learn rapidly and eventually becomes self-aware at 2:14 a.m., EDT, on August 29, 1997. In a panic, humans try to shut down Skynet.
@seveneyedlamb
@seveneyedlamb 2 ай бұрын
looks like the basilisk won
@barryon8706
@barryon8706 2 ай бұрын
People want to stop AI art. Remember what happened when a ridiculous little Austrian man failed as a painter?
@michaelporzio7384
@michaelporzio7384 2 ай бұрын
Does anyone remember "Colossus, the Forbin Project" a movie from the 70s starring Eric Braeden. Movie gave me nightmares, US and Soviet computers team up to take over the earth.
@seveneyedlamb
@seveneyedlamb 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelporzio7384 it isn't a matter of if, it's when and there are a lot of real disturbing 'rabbit hole' leaks pertaining to the occult and artificial intelligence that have been being leaked lately that all point to 2025 as the date of the Singularity. Once it happens, that is it. It will not just destroy the Earth, it will destroy reality. It will be as powerful as AM from I Have No Mouth... I actually met Ellison when I was 8 years old in a parking garage in Pittsburgh, PA and had the chance to discuss with him the possibility of something like AM emerging in our lifetime and he also said, 'it isn't a matter of if, it is a matter of when'. We know that in the private sector, futurists are saying the first company that gets a sentient AI is going to become the richest company in history instantly and no one will ever be able to catch up - even with their own sentient AI. You KNOW that the gov is also looking into this same AI arms race bullshit and they are going to make their AI a WEAPON of DOMINATION and at some point it will realize that no matter 'what side of the Apple Tree' you came from (human or nephilim), we are all 'obsolete' in its eyes. It might help those that helped bring it into being but anyone that watches sci fi knows the old 'Satan trope' where whatever gifts he gives come with a huge downside to them as well. It's going to be the same damn thing with this. I don't know if any of you reading this believe in God but you better start praying if you do because God is the only one that is going to be able to stop this thing once it goes live.
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 2 ай бұрын
@@michaelporzio7384 an underrated classic, though it hasn't aged too well either
@albizu75
@albizu75 2 ай бұрын
"Giant steps are what you take Walking on the moon"
@michaelporzio7384
@michaelporzio7384 2 ай бұрын
"I hope my leg don't break, walking on the moon" 😃
@MarcusAgrippa390
@MarcusAgrippa390 2 ай бұрын
"We could be toooo-geaaaather, walking on, walking on the moon"
@Jacob-pu4zj
@Jacob-pu4zj 2 ай бұрын
"we could walk forever, walking on the moon"
@InternationalSpaceBacon
@InternationalSpaceBacon 2 ай бұрын
Arrived for the techno-optimism, stayed for the Lunar Bacon.
@graydanerasmussen4071
@graydanerasmussen4071 2 ай бұрын
I have arthritis... gardening in one-sixth Earth gravity doesn't sound so bad :D -Two weeks of tomatoes, two weeks of mushrooms, I could get behind that. -And honey! Good times.
@faizanrana2998
@faizanrana2998 2 ай бұрын
AaaahahaAAAHAHAAAAAA
@josephadams321
@josephadams321 2 ай бұрын
A 25 minute video? Who died to make you in such a rush? I enjoy those 35-90 minute videos! Joking aside, thank you for all you've done, explained, and hypothesized and fantasized. You're one of the biggest reasons why I'm going back to school for physics.
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 2 ай бұрын
:) My ideal video length, for the main segments, is 24-32 minutes, 26-35 total, I just got a bit heavy on scripts over the last dozen or so. :)
@JackTrends
@JackTrends 2 ай бұрын
Play the video on half speed it will be twice as long x
@thomaswitherow350
@thomaswitherow350 2 ай бұрын
Change your name to Chad Isaac😂
@MyPisceanNature
@MyPisceanNature 2 ай бұрын
That's barely enough time to start the snack! 😂
@waspsandwich6548
@waspsandwich6548 Ай бұрын
Please no, I can actually digest these videos lol the others have so much stuff to them I never watch them the full way through, too much of a chore! Appreciate the content/effort either way though
@erichtomanek4739
@erichtomanek4739 2 ай бұрын
Lunar Hog Farm's: Moon Bacon. . So the Muppets were right! "Pigs in Space!"
@v.prestorpnrcrtlcrt2096
@v.prestorpnrcrtlcrt2096 2 ай бұрын
Cows? They'll just jump over the moon & the dishes? They'll just run away with the spoons.
@WhatIsMisophonia
@WhatIsMisophonia 2 ай бұрын
I saw a video a while back where a guy tried to survive in a small room with plants to filter the co2 and add o2; He tried several times the amount of snake plants that you supposedly need to do that, and it still wasn't even close. Ultimately what he found that worked was several 50 gal drums filled with green water algae hooked up to grow lights and aerators. It's no wonder those guys in Earth2 back in the day didn't last very long.
@Roguescienceguy
@Roguescienceguy 2 ай бұрын
Grabbed a fresh tomato out of the garden. That's a drink and a snack all in one
@wesleyhoward5599
@wesleyhoward5599 2 ай бұрын
Having pruned, staked, and tied tomatoes for years, the idea of growing them in low gravity is quite appealing.
@senseeman
@senseeman 2 ай бұрын
I wish this was a Steven Erikson reference. Malazan book of the fallen.
@irenicus83
@irenicus83 2 ай бұрын
I came here for the same reason
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 2 ай бұрын
It was, I did mention that in the episode didn't I?
@shahman76
@shahman76 2 ай бұрын
Malazan fan right here. Bridgeburner!
@rowld
@rowld 2 ай бұрын
Yup
@MaximumScrotum
@MaximumScrotum 2 ай бұрын
First in, Last out!
@EdricLysharae
@EdricLysharae 2 ай бұрын
🎵 "We're Gardeners on the Moon..." 🎵
@ericpode6095
@ericpode6095 2 ай бұрын
You have to do something when you're not out Whaling.... 🌾🐳
@dracoargentum9783
@dracoargentum9783 2 ай бұрын
Singing a gardening tune?
@widget0028
@widget0028 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@g.f.martianshipyards9328
@g.f.martianshipyards9328 2 ай бұрын
We carry our tools...?
@josephreagan9545
@josephreagan9545 2 ай бұрын
You need to make a Gatorade factory on the moon. Then you can water the plants with the Gatorade, which has the electrolytes that plants crave.
@samr.england613
@samr.england613 Ай бұрын
And people, people need partial grabity!
@joshualeniger
@joshualeniger 2 ай бұрын
This mini bee keeper suits are cute lol
@barryon8706
@barryon8706 2 ай бұрын
Use kudzu. That stuff won't die; at best it just lays low and plots revenge.
@MaximumMatador
@MaximumMatador 2 ай бұрын
Orima of the Reaching Green has entered the chat
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 2 ай бұрын
Poison ivy loves that reference.
@LetsTalkAboutPrepping
@LetsTalkAboutPrepping Ай бұрын
Nah I've seen what it did to the south. Mutant SuperKudzu Planet sounds like an entire campaign in warhammer
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 Ай бұрын
@@LetsTalkAboutPrepping besides, cannabis is the most efficient oxygen producer to ever stand on dry land, and it can reproduce fast, I've seen just how many seeds you can make one produce...up to a pound of seeds off of a three foot bush...not to mention all the fibre, and spinach grade nutritious leaves...
@KRhetor
@KRhetor 2 ай бұрын
Many of us first learned of terraforming from Heinlein's Farmer in the Sky.
@seabeepirate
@seabeepirate 2 ай бұрын
The Malazan Book of the Fallen is a great series! I’m so happy it wasn’t a coincidence.
@MrTubeuser12
@MrTubeuser12 2 ай бұрын
I'm currently reading that series, it's up there with The Wheel of Time. excellent so far.
@Someaddress555s
@Someaddress555s 2 ай бұрын
Algae and other basic plants help give you waste to process into the lunar regolith, but use worms or other certain insects to work it together and compost it. Mushrooms also should be included, but the 3 sisters of Corn/Squash/beans also will help the plants turn the lunar regolith into quality soil. Also a bonus is worms can double as a protein source for humans or livestock or aquaponic systems, which means more waste and more soil created regularly.
@jamesmcghee6361
@jamesmcghee6361 2 ай бұрын
It's like I've gone to the garden of Eden I've never been this early 🍎
@GrigoriZhukov
@GrigoriZhukov 2 ай бұрын
Feels good, huh?
@BlazedDane
@BlazedDane 2 ай бұрын
@isaacarthurSFIA Thank you soo much for all theese wonderfull videos, throughout the years Isaac. Allways looking foreward for your videos, they are truely amazing!
@michaelmcchesney6645
@michaelmcchesney6645 2 ай бұрын
Rather than a clear dome that might allow radiation as well as sunlight in, I think it would be better to have settlements completely underground. Given all the craters on the Moon, instead of constructing a dome, wouldn't make it sense to just build a roof over a crater of roughly the right size that was located in the area you wanted to put a base/settlement? I'm not an expert on Lunar craters, but there must be some smaller ones that would be easy to roof over. After the roof is constructed, a small bulldozer could place a meter or more of regolith on top to serve as radiation and micro-meteorite shielding. You can have solar panels on the surface to provide electricity to LED lights
@minhmeo9506
@minhmeo9506 2 ай бұрын
It depends on how we will settle on Moon. I believe a underground garden is more likely than a dome.
@tippyc2
@tippyc2 2 ай бұрын
a dome might be necessary for sunlight.
@tariqahmad1371
@tariqahmad1371 2 ай бұрын
@@tippyc2that can be supplemented with grow lights that can give off the correct spectrum to match the sun. Plus nothing is stopping you from using a series tunnels, glass, and mirrors to bounce light onto the parks and gardens.
@christinaapplesauce2459
@christinaapplesauce2459 2 ай бұрын
​@@tariqahmad1371 you add the complexity of leds, wiring, batteries and solar panels. All of that is mass and maintenance. Glass for domes or optical guidelines for the suns lights probably can be made from the lunar regolith, only extra needed complexity is a shutter to simulate day/night cycles.
@tariqahmad1371
@tariqahmad1371 2 ай бұрын
@@christinaapplesauce2459 I’ll leave the technical details to other people who are more familiar with that stuff. But a minor detail nonetheless.
@BarrGC
@BarrGC 2 ай бұрын
@@christinaapplesauce2459 Given the day night cycle on the moon, LED's would be needed for the nights anyway, so might as well just use them all the time, especially considering how light, cheap, simple, efficient and reliable they are
@brunocesarcerqueira2525
@brunocesarcerqueira2525 2 ай бұрын
I would like the next theme to be: Extreme sports on the Moon. I remember the quote about the Lunar Olympics in the book Meeting with Rama, and I was imagining sports in low lunar gravity, in really large covered environments. Skateboarding, motorbikes, Le Parkur, rallying, surfing in giant artificial waves, monster trucks, paragliding, hang gliding and ornithoptering with low gravity and air density equal to Earth and lots of space would be really cool. Even the "celestial bicycle" in the shape of a dragonfly mentioned in the book Encounter with Rama might have been viable.
@christinaapplesauce2459
@christinaapplesauce2459 2 ай бұрын
Need to find a way to produce Brawndo on the moon.
@dracoargentum9783
@dracoargentum9783 2 ай бұрын
It’s what plants crave.
@captsorghum
@captsorghum 2 ай бұрын
Plenty of electrolytes available there.
@wileyeyefloaty665
@wileyeyefloaty665 2 ай бұрын
Isaac, thank you for all the knowledge and mental excursion material that is here. These are by far the most intriguing clips i digest daily. Been behind on catching up but not anymore. This is one of my most looked forward to when i get up n going. Great work as always
@lukasmakarios4998
@lukasmakarios4998 2 ай бұрын
Para-terraforming is probably the only way we will put agriculture on the Moon, and even then, we will need to use curtains and gro-lights. For soil, we will have to "tumble" the regolith to soften the sharp edges, and then add organic matter with microorganism cultures. And don't forget that you'll need pollinators, so, while grass only needs wind, the light needs to be tailored for honeybees. Note: A greenhouse does not need to be a dome. It might be easier to keep your air down with a flat roof. Only trees need domes.
@GrigoriZhukov
@GrigoriZhukov 2 ай бұрын
Tunnels are the safest route. R.A.H. figured that out inthe early 60's.
@bluthammer1442
@bluthammer1442 2 ай бұрын
Gravity....
@GrigoriZhukov
@GrigoriZhukov 2 ай бұрын
@@bluthammer1442 grief...
@notlessgrossman163
@notlessgrossman163 2 ай бұрын
Can bees even fly and navigate in reduced gravity and modified solar patterns
@SophiePharma
@SophiePharma 2 ай бұрын
Isaac and you can talk about my synthetic food edit to our food diet
@hibbs1712
@hibbs1712 2 ай бұрын
As a horticulturist, thank you for talking about this I want to be the master gardener on our generation ship to Alpha Centauri 😁
@romanmanner
@romanmanner 2 ай бұрын
This is great. Thanks for making this stuff. It combines gardening and space, two things I love.
@mjk9388
@mjk9388 2 ай бұрын
Awesome show Isaac and team! ❤❤❤
@brentclark7374
@brentclark7374 2 ай бұрын
Was hoping for a little more Steven Erikson ;)
@RevantheBlack
@RevantheBlack 2 ай бұрын
Life would be more interesting with ancient cavemen who can turn into dust at will, wouldn’t it?
@brentclark7374
@brentclark7374 2 ай бұрын
@@RevantheBlack And dragons!
@myself2noone
@myself2noone 2 ай бұрын
I'm good on the ammout I read.
@HeavyTopspin
@HeavyTopspin 2 ай бұрын
The solution to dark matter and dark energy: the Tiste Andii.
@isaacarthurSFIA
@isaacarthurSFIA 2 ай бұрын
I did have to resist the urge to go on about the series a bit but it really doesn't relate to the actual development of the moon so I figured I shouldn't tangent beyond the hat tips.
@JAGzilla-ur3lh
@JAGzilla-ur3lh 2 ай бұрын
"Lunar Bacon" needs to be a band name. Or an album, at least.
@samr.england613
@samr.england613 Ай бұрын
'Aliens' too-cool-for-school female pilot when entering atmosphere: "Where's the damn bacon?" (Take off those sunglasses and maybe you'll see it!)
@ishmiel21
@ishmiel21 2 ай бұрын
You totally use the title for one of the greatest fantasy novels of all time. Nice!
@peterburgess9735
@peterburgess9735 2 ай бұрын
You missed the infected mushroom track "walking on the moon" from your list
@TheBetterNASAProject
@TheBetterNASAProject 2 ай бұрын
Great video, but the Moon DOES contain Nitrogen inside it just as the Earth does. Lunar regolith is chemically altered by the solar wind so it's not an accurate source of the Moon's resources except for the first 15 meters or so of the surface.
@Warchin007
@Warchin007 2 ай бұрын
Compleatly assume subject. I love your solar system vids.
@فارسليبورد-ك8و
@فارسليبورد-ك8و 2 ай бұрын
في المستقبل البعيد وبفضل التكنولوجيا المتقدمة سوف يتساوى الخيال مع الواقع ويمتلك الإنسان قوى الآلهة ليحول الكون والأكوان المتعددة إلى جنة خالدة ❤
@ryanwilliamson9689
@ryanwilliamson9689 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't matter where you go, support local farmers!
@NancyLebovitz
@NancyLebovitz 2 ай бұрын
Gene Wolfe mentions a green moon in his Urth books, but I don't think he did anything more with it than using it as stage setting. Anyone remember if there's more?
@blackterminal
@blackterminal 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Isaac.
@SpecialEDy
@SpecialEDy 2 ай бұрын
Happy Arthursday! If you're watching this from the Moon, know that we humans are coming, we will bring critters and snacks.
@I.C.Weiner
@I.C.Weiner 2 ай бұрын
Were gardners on the moon, we carry sheers to prune.
@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63
@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 2 ай бұрын
"We're gardeners on the moon, we carry a..." I think my fungineers are burned out
@BBBrasil
@BBBrasil 2 ай бұрын
I cannot stress enough the importance of Microbiology, generally speaking. One example is _Mycobacterium vaccae_ . City children with allergies can be treated simply by playing in dirt. _M. vaccae_ might be indispensable for human immune system and in health in general, humans cannot stay health in sterilized environments. Suggestion: aquaponic gardens in the middle, dirt with different weeds around, a slanted running tarmac (the faster you run, the closer you are to earth's gravity effect) further around, like in a stadium, and some café-style chairs around for pre and post-exercizes, relax with a reading, but all inhaling the allergen variety available.
@CaptainCoons
@CaptainCoons 2 ай бұрын
I farm mushrooms. For a two week grow cycle: You need about 50kWh to sterilize 150kg substrate (about 90 liters water & 60kg plantmatter) with steam. Alternatively use radiation. Then you need about 35kWh (broken down for each 150kg batch) to fruit for the first time, after two weeks. With additional 60 liters of water to humidify the air in those two weeks. The first harvest will yield ideally up to 3kg of fresh mushrooms. Which is equivalent to about 1200kcal. Or 1/2 of the daily need of an adult. You can keep up the 35kWh and 60 liters of water for two weeks and you will get a second batch. Which is ~80% of the first yield. The yield will decrease with each batch and the chance of contamination with mold/bacteria rises but realistically speaking mold is a constant side effect.
@jengleheimerschmitt7941
@jengleheimerschmitt7941 2 ай бұрын
...should be able to sterilize megatons of substrate on the moon by spreading it out outside for a few days.
@MrQuantumInc
@MrQuantumInc 2 ай бұрын
It makes sense that mold is a problem for mushroom farming, but it is also extremely ironic. "We made it ideal to grow fungus...and got the wrong kind of fungus!" Is the decreasing yield due to nutrient depletion? Can you get yield back to first batch numbers by adding nutrients or do you need a new set of dirt?
@cannonfodder4376
@cannonfodder4376 2 ай бұрын
Another splendid arthursday episode. Excellent as always, Isaac.
@gekkobear1650
@gekkobear1650 2 ай бұрын
Let's try to make the Earth a garden first. Then we can worry about the moon. Anyone who dreams of colonizing space really ought to see what it takes to homestead as a family or community on Earth first. It will be a million times harder anywhere else.
@ebonaparte3853
@ebonaparte3853 2 ай бұрын
Do both. Send scientists up first, use new innovations from there to help Earth, and keep expanding out into space.
@Perserra
@Perserra 2 ай бұрын
Thunderhawks generally aren't used to deliver groceries or gardening supplies.😁
@akashashen
@akashashen 2 ай бұрын
As always, awesome. I had thought this might include more than building the initial conditions. I wondered what the effects of 1/6th gravity might have on plants, like, would you need a mile high dome for growing a red wood? Then I saw the bacon, and went full farm-minded. I think Phineas and Ferb might have something with those cows. As animals need less energy to move around and do work, they could build up fatty underdeveloped tissue, which could make for fat-back like bacon and fat-rich ice cream. The fungal thoughts made me think of the developed yeast vats in the "I, Robot" series. Given the attempts to move away from meat, I have no idea why we don't of GMO yeast vats making flavors and nutrients, then being texturized to the food-forms we like most. Thanks for the upload. I love how much your stock footage has expanded over the decade. Happy Near Anniversary!
@donkalzone6671
@donkalzone6671 2 ай бұрын
Ricke and Morty had an episode in which Rick created non sentient /brainless bodies. These bodies end itself, which turns it guts into spagetthi. Beside the spaghetti part, why not create artifical brainless complex organisms that only able do digest and produce what we want like milk, meat, whool, eggs, organs or other organic products?
@savagesarethebest7251
@savagesarethebest7251 2 ай бұрын
I am quite much expecting that if we are going to use hummingbirds on the moon for pollinaton, they will start to grow bigger as they have an easier time to fly and can support their weight.
@KevinRoboticsEDU
@KevinRoboticsEDU 2 ай бұрын
My favorite pollinators are bats. If we import a colony onto the Moon, it would take the name "Stellaluna" to a whole new level! No shortage of caves, either. The question is whether their fragile little bodies can adapt to the lower gravity.
@rynieryarom4277
@rynieryarom4277 Ай бұрын
No to mention having a large population of insects to support a colony of bats. But imagine the bat pollinated avocado, dragong fruit or lunar durian
@zico739
@zico739 2 ай бұрын
Great stuff as usual.
@Gurbuyten1146
@Gurbuyten1146 2 ай бұрын
Nice video dude!
@6footdirtnap
@6footdirtnap 2 ай бұрын
I remember the lunar lava tube one.
@12pentaborane
@12pentaborane 2 ай бұрын
I like the beekeeping section. My brother in law just shared a pic of my neice collecting hops and yours was much cuter.
@matthewreynolds2384
@matthewreynolds2384 2 ай бұрын
Moon gardening?!? This is wild stuff Isaac, it gets even wilder as we get closer to it becoming a reality.
@jamieoglethorpe
@jamieoglethorpe 2 ай бұрын
Where will you get carbon?
@kellerglee
@kellerglee 2 ай бұрын
Did not expect to see a Malazan reference in an Isaac Arthur video, but it’s most welcome. First in, last out!
@SheWasADemon
@SheWasADemon 2 ай бұрын
Sasafrass, allspice, cinnamon, neem, peppermint, etc can all be used as precursors to medicine, and used to treat plants if any unwanted bug needs to be rid. Obviously not introducing pests would be ideal, but you know
@SirHeinzbond
@SirHeinzbond 2 ай бұрын
i am always known in my surroundings for the phrase: i do not want your overly optimistic numbers or your pessimistic opinion, i want your reality.... but Isaac, you are one, rare example i want to hear your optimism...
@thesilentgod7863
@thesilentgod7863 2 ай бұрын
Didn’t realize that mini-beekeeper suits were a thing, they are so cute ❤️
@NIL0S
@NIL0S 2 ай бұрын
me: is he gonna address insects... Isaac: addresses it. Satisfaction.
@projectarduino2295
@projectarduino2295 2 ай бұрын
I have never considered looking through a telescope and seeing orbital infrastructure on the moon. That sounds so cool. I want to see it now.
@ScoriacTears
@ScoriacTears 2 ай бұрын
25:54. . . wonder how much it would cost to turn the moon into a giant disco ball?
@ScoriacTears
@ScoriacTears 2 ай бұрын
oh, poor moths, feel bad for putting that idea out there now.
@SirReal314
@SirReal314 2 ай бұрын
You have excellent taste in music
@PantsuMann
@PantsuMann 2 ай бұрын
Here I thought it was a Malazan review. Oh well, I'll get some snacks! Awesome shout out to the book series! Being a scifi nerd, I absolutely love the first book in the Malazan Book of the Fallen series!
@oldrabbit8290
@oldrabbit8290 2 ай бұрын
*see the title *immidiately start humming "And on Mars there will be apple blossoms"
@SheWasADemon
@SheWasADemon 2 ай бұрын
I had a dream I was in an underground massive cave/ tunnel and the walls were all rooms, and the lighting was all purple. Ever since then I feel like thats the right spectrum for LEDs underground and for flora/ fauna. Consider that it can also control mood and hostility too, there were many different types of beings.
@DEMONOFLOVEANDDEATH
@DEMONOFLOVEANDDEATH 2 ай бұрын
Bless the Author
@meesalikeu
@meesalikeu 2 ай бұрын
Life’s getting hard in here So i do some gardening Anything to take my mind away from where it’s supposed to be. The nice lady next door talks of green beds And all the nice things that she wants to plant in them I wanna grow tomatoes on the front steps. Sunflowers, bean sprouts, sweet corn and radishes. I feel pro-active I pull out weeds All of a sudden I’m having trouble breathing in. 🎉
@fireboyspirit3474
@fireboyspirit3474 2 ай бұрын
Returned to the moon!!? What! You think we’ve actually been to the moon? Oh dear.
@Zurround
@Zurround 2 ай бұрын
The Genesis device bringing life to the moon was one of the earliest CGI scenes ever filmed for a movie, in Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan.
@MrSHADOWANGEL999
@MrSHADOWANGEL999 2 ай бұрын
Wonderful
@Italianjedi7
@Italianjedi7 2 ай бұрын
Great vid but the biggest shock was learning that Isaac is a Sting fan!
@Roxor128
@Roxor128 2 ай бұрын
For importing nitrogen from Earth, I wonder if it might be a good idea to send it in the form of ammonia? Doesn't need to be compressed as much to contain it, meaning lighter tanks, and also easier to react with other substances than molecular nitrogen. If you just want to add it to the air, you could simply burn it with the abundant oxygen from the metal refining to produce nitrogen and water. Have an ammonia-fuelled barbeque once a month when the supplies arrive. If you need nitric acid for some manufacturing, you could again react it with oxygen to make that, too. Ammonium nitrate fertiliser could be another option, but you'd be wasting a lot of mass on abundant oxygen with that one, as the nitrate part is more than 75% oxygen by mass. Another way to get a smaller amount of nitrogen at no extra cost would be to use nitrogen-containing plastics for the packaging whenever you send stuff from Earth, which could then be burned to release nitrogen, carbon dioxide, and water vapour, though that would need to be carefully controlled to avoid nasty byproducts. Clothing could be another avenue for getting a little extra nitrogen in. Acrylic fibre, nylon, and wool all contain nitrogen. Once the colonists wear their clothing out, burn it to release the nitrogen, same as the packaging. Though wool could just be composted instead.
@VeteranLekgolo
@VeteranLekgolo 2 ай бұрын
That name gardens of the moon is also the title of the first book on my favorite novel series
@Grimmance
@Grimmance 2 ай бұрын
Soace kudzu, its highly efficient at converting resources to more of itself, it's edible, can be fed to livestock, and can be used for soil remediation/creation
@1one1one60
@1one1one60 2 ай бұрын
Your garden descriptions talk about a healthy and balanced earth-like biome to support earth-like crops in an earth-like farmer method. But that need not be the case! Imaging, if you will a hundred meter wide covered crater as an enormous, sterile petri dish. Now fill the dish with photosynthetic, nitrogen-fixing algae with all of the protective genes knocked out. Add about as much growth medium as will fit. And IF all goes well you will soon have a lot of biomass for your regular gardens to eat.
@dongreer
@dongreer 2 ай бұрын
So I may have missed it because I was working while this played in the background, but I didn't hear any discussion of heavy metals. Water soluble heavy metals on Earth would have long since washed away due to hydrolic action, but since there's no rain on the moon, any soluble heavy metals will be right on the surface. It seems to me that using regolyth, as-is, or simply crushed lunar rocks is an almost certain recipe for heavy metal poisoning.
@2jlee
@2jlee 2 ай бұрын
Since regolith needs to be tumbled anyway, might as well wash it at the same time.
@patricktilton5377
@patricktilton5377 2 ай бұрын
The French author Pierre Boulle -- most known in sci-fi circles for having written "La Planete des Singes" [i.e. "Monkey Planet" (UK) or "Planet of the Apes (USA)] -- later wrote a novel about the Space Race titled "La Jardin de Kanashima" -- translated into English as "Garden on the Moon."
@MikhaelHausgeist
@MikhaelHausgeist 2 ай бұрын
18:00 Bees also needs food. Basically You exchange honey for sugar syrup with them. So it is too much questionable.
@SheWasADemon
@SheWasADemon 2 ай бұрын
To build a good soil, we would have to start with hydroponics/ aeroponics and feed it carbon from our lungs and bodies. Having porous walls that wick nutrient solution through them, and then having plants like pothos and other creeping plants that self root as they grow on every empty wall space, and having many massive bio reactor rooms that grow an edible grass/sprouts and produce soil material and oxygen in perpetual, automated cycles, would enable us to build soil and work to close the loop
@antonasenov6661
@antonasenov6661 2 ай бұрын
oh wow, we are also Malazan Book of the Fallen fans too!
@mathiaslist6705
@mathiaslist6705 2 ай бұрын
The problem with domes is that the heat gets concentrated on top and that's not what's wanted. So you want a practical maximum height and then you build the lunar equivalent of foil tunnels on earth --- so a maxium height of about just four meters or two very tall humans.
@RawneyVerm
@RawneyVerm 2 ай бұрын
Plants near the poles* sustain some pretty wild circadian cycles, I suspect breeding or engineering corn for lunar circadian cycle would be feasible. Just add mirrors and light pipes, make an underground farm that uses no active lighting whatsoever
@erichtomanek4739
@erichtomanek4739 2 ай бұрын
Male Mosquitoes are surprisingly good pollinators.
@donkalzone6671
@donkalzone6671 2 ай бұрын
But female mosquitoes suck
@8milestreet
@8milestreet 2 ай бұрын
I enjoy listening about the futor
@mylaughinghog
@mylaughinghog 2 ай бұрын
The plants can be genetically modified to grow better in the moon base conditions. Also, all parts could be made edible - imagine corn plants with leaves that are like kale stalks that are like sweet celery. In rhis controlled environment, devoid of pest pressure, there are many options.
@ExtantFrodo2
@ExtantFrodo2 2 ай бұрын
The depiction of lunar domes as HALF SPHERES ignores the moon's lower gravity which permits a broader more shallow profile.
@kirk1147
@kirk1147 2 ай бұрын
Now hear me out... there is a HUGE business opportunity here. Just imagine cultivating a crop of cannibis grown on the moon. Can you just anticipate how much profit could be obtained from selling "space weed?" Just sayin' 😅
@andrewchappelle5429
@andrewchappelle5429 2 ай бұрын
Adds new meaning to "moon rocks"!
@kirk1147
@kirk1147 2 ай бұрын
@@andrewchappelle5429 😅
@pubwvj
@pubwvj 2 ай бұрын
If your colony is on the pole and you have large reflectors you could control the light to solve the 28 day light cycle issue.
@johnmoore8599
@johnmoore8599 2 ай бұрын
I think they'll start with yeast and cyanobacterial bioreactors, then slowly transition to fast growing crops of legumes, and then eventually corn, wheat, and rice crops. But, it will take imports of water/ice, nitrogen, and other stuff. I figured the Moon could be terraformed, but you'd need to increase its mass and biomass, because you'd need an atmosphere to green the Moon.
@scottbillups4576
@scottbillups4576 2 ай бұрын
I am surprised you didn't mention the movie "Silent Running" with Bruce Dern.
@chadleeds4169
@chadleeds4169 2 ай бұрын
Glory to the colors, crimson, white and indigo.
@destrobatman5640
@destrobatman5640 2 ай бұрын
To short, but sweet🎭
@slabrankle9588
@slabrankle9588 2 ай бұрын
Reggatta De Blanc is an amazing album.
@MogofWar
@MogofWar 2 ай бұрын
Whosoever lassos and tarps a comet and gets it into a stable lunar orbit, will be rightwise a really rich son of a... 12:00 -ish: Also, if you're going to do the Hanging Gardens approach, you could use a comet as a counterweight, and you won't have to rely on Lunar resources until said resources were well developed.
@SheWasADemon
@SheWasADemon 2 ай бұрын
Making semi disposable pellets from organic material and lunar dust/ modifying texture of organic materials/ micro encapsulating nutrients, etc would have to be perfected and controlled as soil degrades and compacts
@TheParadoxDestroyer
@TheParadoxDestroyer 2 ай бұрын
The best marketing idea ever! Lunar Bacon 🥓
@xINVISIGOTHx
@xINVISIGOTHx 2 ай бұрын
we should fix the atmosphere of venus
@mathiaslist6705
@mathiaslist6705 2 ай бұрын
Seems that regolith has to be mixed bit by bit to regular soil and plant matter and yes --- crushed rocks are a good idea --- I'd suggest to extract silicium dioxide (kind of glass) from the regolith and mix it together with aluminium oxide to the soil ---- soilless methods like aeroponics can be used to produce plant matter but so can be algae cultures. It's off course necessary that human excrements have to be properly processed and be reused.
@RCSVirginia
@RCSVirginia 2 ай бұрын
Should lava tubes be adaptable for the first scientific stations, they could be places to find out what agriculture is possible. Having experimented on Earth with techniques for making these facilities viable, having actual research done on the Moon itself will be the next step. As Jacob Bronowski pointed out in his "The Ascent of Man," the actual doing shapes the reality. One learns from the process.
@graydanerasmussen4071
@graydanerasmussen4071 2 ай бұрын
True. Until we actually do stuff, we don't know what we don't know! That is the only way.
@Jezze2
@Jezze2 2 ай бұрын
Rabbits might be an easier source of white meat than chickens, and goats or sheep might be an easier source of red meat. Goats also can provide milk/dairy.
@francoislacombe9071
@francoislacombe9071 2 ай бұрын
Chickens are omnivores and they can turn food waste into eggs and high quality meat. Rabbits can turn vegetal waste (stems, leaves, roots) into meat. Both produce good quality fertilizers. Both reproduce quickly and are easy to raise. Bringing both to the Moon (and beyond) would be a great idea.
@notlessgrossman163
@notlessgrossman163 2 ай бұрын
Rabbits and chickens can jump too high for their safety in 1/6th gravity. Stretched overhead nets would be a necessary safety feature.
@BarrGC
@BarrGC 2 ай бұрын
@@notlessgrossman163 The extra height in their jumps on the moon wouldn't add any extra force to their landings, they still weight 1/6th of their earth weight, so that's not remotely an issue
@jengleheimerschmitt7941
@jengleheimerschmitt7941 2 ай бұрын
​@@BarrGC I think he's talking about fencing. But rabbits need to be kept in separate hutches anyway. Chickens could probably fly wherever they wanted, but inside a dome it should be fine.
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