Space Homesteading: Life On The Final Frontier

In the future we will not simply travel to visit new worlds but seek to build homes and forge lives on them. So what would being a pioneer in space truly be like?
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Space Homesteading
Episode 433; February 8, 2024
Produced, Written & Narrated by: Isaac Arthur
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[@alfredotto7525]

Most farmers I know are mechanics, inventors, machinists and all around problem solvers.

[@chupacabra304]

My father and his brothers were dairy farmers in the 60’s and he always told me the same; farmers are nowadays scientists, geneticists , mechanics, weathermen & of course inventors for when inevitably something crazy happens & requires a novel solution with minimal resources

[@CatsRock11000]

Don't forget computer programmers I've seen some amazing work with using drones with crops and remote sensors kind of amazing seeing applied technology i love it not that any of that's new its just cool to see the innovation. @@chupacabra304

[@leonardpearlman4017]

Just think... if they are farming NITROGEN! In SPACE!

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@alfredotto7525]

@chupacabra304 my dad was a dairy farmer too. He saw a automilker at the state fair. Took one look and said I can make one of those. 2 months later we had one that he built himself.

[@jsbrads1]

In space, you can always receive ballistic Amazon. They will fire it toward you from a railgun, the only limit is your catching speed.

[@chupacabra304]

Your order will arrive around the same time as it does nowadays 😂

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@mudpie6927]

Believe it or not that might just be the case we've been trying to make guns/cannons capable of orbital since world war 2

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@jsbrads1]

@@mudpie6927 Amazon would have a few fulfillment centers all around the solar system. Earth orbit, Mars’ L4 and L5 to supply the asteroid belt nearby. Venus orbit for inner system workers. And where ever there are lots of people close to one place, they open a new one.

[@FallenAnvilForge]

LOL "Everybody shut up, dad's gotta record." That's awesome Isaac LOL , Great video as always, looking forward to the next one. :)

[@Gauldame]

You have died of Techno Dysentery. Venus Trail... probably.

[@spartanalex9006]

Press Start to upload to a New Body.

[@JAGzilla-ur3lh]

You shot yourself with your mass driver while sending the nitrogen shipment into orbit. Do you apply castor oil or quinine?

[@littlegravitas9898]

Home is where the heart is. Sometimes that will end up being several light years from earth.

[@seanhewitt603]

Hearth, home is where the hearth is.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Home is where the heart is but the stars are made of Latinum

[@jtjames79]

​@@comentedonakeyboard This man has the lobes for commerce. 👆

[@thehat4244]

Home is where your rump rests.

[@8darktraveler8]

Joe Dirt meme.

[@christophernoneya4635]

I think the key difference between homesteading and farming is the intention. If you own a garden we dont call you a farmer, you arent intending to make a living selling what you grow. Homesteading is about intending to survive off of what you grow, not sell.

[@smoore6461]

Another fantastic SFIA video! I loved the warhammer 40k STC tie-in, totally great idea! I have suggested several times that Isaac and Leutin09 should do a collaboration episode over on leutins comments, i think that could be a great episode or short series. I recently started rewatching all the SFIA videos as I have been doing a lot of world building in my own universe and SFIA is my "reality" check for when I want to know if I am getting too far out of known science for my own comfort. Thanks for the thought-provoking and fascinating videos. You, sir, are a treasure and an amazing resource for someone who wants to write good science fiction!

[@thetruth45678]

I'm gonna homestead,but I'm gonna do it high tech. Moisture condensers. Replicators. Sonic showers. Antimatter warp core...

[@placeholdername0000]

Another option for Venus. Thermosiphons, sucking heat from the lower atmosphere into a heat engine, with the waste heat going into the colder upper atmosphere. This would not only produce power, but also cool Venus over time.

[@MikeJones-yo8en]

I love your usual release times- I get to go to space while going to work

[@AM-gx3dy]

Same

[@atlanciaza]

For me it's on the way home.

[@ramuk1933]

I don't care about times. It might as well be random to me. It is on Mathletes day.

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@jasondclark]

Doomsday tech to destroy an orbital installation? - Tiktok challenge for all the teens to jump up and down at the same time destroying its orbit. Or a popular one from my childhood, flush all the toilets at the same time, no AI needed just humanity.

[@BearMeOut]

Looking at the unclassified cold war "near miss" accident, it's scary how multiple times we almost end. All that potential could repeat it self into inter planetary standoff with planet cracker missile.

[@beskamir5977]

Who needs foreign enemies when we've got ticktock challenges.

[@ynraider]

*no AI needed just COMMUNISM.

[@asahearts1]

​@@beskamir5977Friendly reminder that TikTok is a Company controlled by the Chinese government, and the version we have is illegal in China. The version of TikTok they have in China is far more wholesome.

[@ThirtytwoJ]

Like a highschool worth of funky teenagers and their dirty gymsocks in a recirculating atmo environment isnt enough to deal with..

[@scottthomas6202]

Heinlein's "Farmer In The Sky" , though aimed at teenagers, is a good basic space homesteading novel, that holds up fairly well despite its age.

[@richardanderson1988]

Agree, a combination of high tech and lots of grunt work. Not for the faint hearted. Jules Verne’s Mysterious Island explores a similar situation, showing that knowledge and hard work are both necessary in order to survive.

[@Joshua_N-A]

I only read it once. It's a good read. Might read it again.

[@annoyed707]

The Homeschool Hooligans - future band name

[@timogul]

I still don't get why any human operators would be necessary for any of this. Just let the robots get out there and collect resources on their own.

[@smileyface6583]

Because you need to have oversight over those robots. Even if they were cell-dumb, they’d still need something smart to make sure they don’t get out of control.

[@timogul]

@@smileyface6583 Humans are as likely to get out of control as robots. I'm not that worried about rogue AI taking over, I'm worried about rogue humans taking over using robots. But ultimately, the robots can do all the manual labor stuff without human involvement.

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@smileyface6583]

@@timogul I mean, I kinda agree with that, but what I meant was in the context of alignment. A robot swarm could easily misunderstand orders given to it by whatever organization made and sent it. So sending even a group of people to correct it when it does something unintended is always a good idea.

[@timogul]

@@smileyface6583 A robot could misunderstand, but so could a human. And the robot is less likely to _deliberately_ do something problematic. By the time we're sending out robots to do things, they _should_ have enough checks and failsafes to their design that they are no more likely to have a significant error than a human is.

[@ornu01]

Also known as 'humans are here, abandon all hope, ye who trespass.'

[@UsenameTakenWasTaken]

I have to admit, part of my transhuman fantasy is setting up an android with a shotgun on a deck in open space, watching out from the Dyson swarm that I've become as a little symbolic warning to the self domesticating apes that have so often punished me for failing to domesticate myself to their standards. "No solicitors; enforced by stellaser." Y'all have a tendency to physically attack me the moment I build something nice, and I'm too autistic to really understand why...

[@kingmasterlord]

​@@UsenameTakenWasTakentranshumanism is pathetic. evolve.

[@rustyshackleford1508]

​@@UsenameTakenWasTaken Transhumanism is hubris incarnate. We were designed as we are for a good reason. Thinking we know better is not even a slippery slope, it's a sheer cliff where suffering awaits at the bottom. After all, nobody wants corporate mandated brainchips.

[@UsenameTakenWasTaken]

​@@kingmasterlord Your troll logic of telling me that what I want is pathetic, and then telling me to do it as if it were an order is a good example of The Amazing Self Domesticating Ape's tendencies that will get y'all a stellaser to the face.

[@UsenameTakenWasTaken]

​@@kingmasterlord You first. Evolve, do it now. Show us all how it is done on livestream.

[@arcadiaberger9204]

It makes perfect sense that most of the early settlements will be small, often begun by families, which makes them homesteaders by definition. Since there is already a well-developed culture of unusual forms of homesteading (urban homesteading seasteading), it makes perfect sense that it will expand in future into space. Once again, it is clear: Octavia Butler was right to say that *_it is the destiny of Earthlife to take root among the stars._*

[@hakonsgaming535]

The end of this reminds me of the last books of Schlock mercenary (spoilers) where they eventually realize that the galaxy is surrounded by an orbiting halo of what amount to tons of different variations on matryoshka brains, because any civilization that arose within the galaxy eventually inevitably realizes that being in the galaxy is detrimental to long term survival because new potentially disruptive civilizations keep arising and eventually they all get anti matter weapons and gravity control tech that there is no perfect defense against so on a long enough timeline the only true survival strategy is to go where no one else is and they have little to no chance of detecting you or deciding to come into existence anywhere near you.

[@Sol-Invictus]

You already know the secret to raising kids. You don't raise them that's an idle process. You train them. Being polite, tidy, everything is just what you do if you got trained. It also makes parents much more of a friend because that ordered relationship is comforting for a little person. My deaf autistic daughter is 4 and helps with chores (has a fit if we do stuff without her hehe cute). One day I realized that she'd figured out scraping food out before putting a dish in the sink! Like ok don't use sign language but you got this orderly life down. Sorry long way of saying I'm truly happy to hear another that says trained. Now that's love building habits and such that with help them forever. Then hang out talk play. Or play some Mario on the switch and then go play dolls with Mario plushies for a few hours 😂 yes Luigi and Mario do need diapers and a snack

[@midnightbluevt]

Why are you blogging about your pet snowflake in the comments section of a space video? Nobody cares and Twitter is free. *Oh wait, now I got to the part where he's talking about having kids, and now your blogpost makes a little more sense. Carry on.

[@chupacabra304]

My lady is autistic and i’m ADHD and somehow miraculously our daughter is neurotypical ❤️ so I can relate but in reverse We try to be parents first , friends second but everything you said is absolutely true 🙏🏽

[@mcmaldek]

Imagine a blimp with breathable air inside it. That alone is an awesome concept.

[@ltsgobrando]

I've gotta be blunt here... Issac I adore your speech impediment 😅 I realize that being different can be hard and whatever, but like... get over it man 😂😂😂. I seriously love your voice, imperfections and all. I have a really long and extremely precise memory (like I can recall conversations verbatim months after the fact) and I cannot recall a single instance of me misunderstanding a single word you've said. I'm okay if you pronounce world as "woahwrld", it's okay man. We are all unique in our own ways, and part of that for you is how you sound. I really do think that you are too hard on yourself. Yes a speech impediment can be challenging, but like realistically if you didn't bring light to it the vast majority of your audience wouldn't even realize it was an impediment. Seriously dude, you are perfect as you are. Stop with the apologies, stop with the surgeries. You are who you are and we love you flaws and all. On a more serious and personal interpretation note... it comes across as the victim card. Like I fully understand that you have a speech impediment, and I don't want to come across as insensitive... but I got a cousin who I live with who has a stutter so bad he actually is indecipherable at times, and I fall asleep to the melody of your voice. You're not broken dude, you're different. Don't be ashamed. You're different and that's okay!

[@MrMakulit1959]

Died of dysentery

[@SAINT-ANTONIO]

🔵 TOPIC: ASTRONAUT SPACE SUIT HYGENE Important is also how to keep things hygienic and comfy. Space suits might need specific wardrobes that wash, decontaminate, desinfect, treat, deodorant harmonize space suits. Such as putting it inside a wardrobe on a holding structure where then shower and spray tubes go in and around. Then UV light treatment while drying with inside tempered wind drying.

[@greggweber9967]

18:49 The Robinson Caruso method of survival being to take steps just big enough so that you have the time/resources to solve all the issues before this one again becomes critical. Not good to die of thirst in a mansion.

[@rustymustard7798]

For a long time now i've had this fantasy of going to Mars to open up a taco stand on a tricycle and sell Martian "street food" to colonists. I'd probably sell sub sandwiches as well and come up with new foods influenced (or limited to by ingredients) by Martian culture. I've done this here on Earth already, i used to have a very popular sandwich shop. Before covid i was street vending from a trike i built, just pedaling around town on a crazy looking cart i hand built with whimsy, like something you'd see in a Dr Seuss book. I've always thought about how we'd probably start sending the best and brightest good looking spacechad genius class to colonize and screw ourselves by not sending blue collar workers needed to support a colony scale population. I mean like when you get astrophysics-ing or doing Mars geology things one would probably want to go grab a beer and some nachos or maybe a chimichanga or just some churros and talk shop. I can't imagine the eggheads are gonna spend all day cooking beans or baking bread and tortillas lol.

[@Belloking1]

10:50 also similar to how today it’s cheaper to import fruits from across the world than growing those same fruits domestically or even locally. A concept that would baffle any living person born before 200yr ago.

[@ΛλρληΛαρλωμ]

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[@Fenhum]

Can you do a video on methods for creating microscopic black holes and kugelblitzes? And how about a discussion about using Penrose processes with superradiant scattering of light for creating the kugelblitz. It would be a great help to me!

[@kirahawkins3931]

STC standard template construction 😂 wink wink nug nug LOL love it Issac!

[@alanleonard8739]

“EVERYONE IS QUITE NOW.” Probably pretty tricky to record while chuckling.

[@oldered5663]

IA mentioned STC all the warhammer fans lose their minds!

[@wascalywabbit]

Lol... i died from dysentery... a lot... 😂

[@vi6ddarkking]

Honestly Homesteading is likely to be the norm from now on since cities really are becoming an obsolete concept. Working from home and the coming human form robots really will make high density housing a thing of the past in most of the planet. It'll likely move towards Solarpunk and that will likely continue as we reach for the stars.

[@dreamoftranscendence4415]

Cities are not becoming obsolete. In the future a much higher percentage of humanity than currently lives in cities, will be required to.

[@vi6ddarkking]

@@dreamoftranscendence4415 Haven't you been paying attention at this channel's content? Once we begin to construct habitats our available living area will go utterly off the charts.

[@Thuazabi]

​@@vi6ddarkking which doesn't negate the fact that a lot of people prefer to live in cities. If things go well in the coming centuries, we'll have plenty of options - and if the last 6,000 years of human settlements are any indicator, city life will likely continue to be a popular choice.

[@giakhangnguyen1898]

Only 30 seconds in and I already know this will be a great episode! Thank you Arthur!💯

[@lorensims4846]

The thumbnail alone really sold it!

[@timnorman8613]

Awww snap, I already thought you were awesome. Now I find out you adopted 3 kids!!!! You're the best

[@marginbuu212]

I'm already doing the hermit thing. Hopefully, if the world doesn't go to absolute crap, I can do the hermit homesteader thing. It's already possible with things like Starlink.

[@DSlyde]

I love the image of a couple hang-gliding around their Venusian airship homestead, but with 350km/hr winds at those altitudes, I'm not sure that that's feasible or safe.

[@commiedeer]

You call it an STC but the description sounds like a GECK…. I think I like this fusion of 40k and Fallout.

[@noxh8091]

This is so inspiring for world building. It gives me so many ideas

[@MrGrumblier]

10:49 The Grayson's did not have counter-grav. At the time of "Honor of the Queen", they could barely build impellers and inertial compensators. They also lacked the advanced building materials to build large-scale domes for farming for some reason. Weber made it a point of showing that they still used rivets to build their space stations and ships.

[@blacklightredlight2945]

Imagine the aliens communicate with gravity, and all the humans flushing looked like an SOS to them.

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@boobah5643]

Impellers and inertial compensators _are_ counter-grav. Damn near all the tech tech in that setting is counter-grav.

[@MrGrumblier]

@@boobah5643 Not exactly. Impellers and compensators are applied gravitics. Keep in mind that in the Manticore Rising prequels they had impeller drives and compensators but artificial gravity was something that was just being developed. Only the newest, first line Havenite ships had artificial gravity. Everyone else and most of Haven's ships used spin sections to generate gravity in crew spaces. Grayson did have grav plates since their ships didn't have spin sections and there was no reference to a ack of internal gravity in Honor of the Queen, but it was pointed out that Grayson's construction lacked counter grav prior to the alliance.

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@taitano12]

IIUC, true homesteading is about moving to unclaimed land and establishing a home and possibly community. The self sufficiency usually involved does indeed lend itself to frontier development, and is why modern off grid people call themselves homesteaders even when they're not ACTUALLY homesteading. When the US Bureau of Land Management opens up an area for settlement, but don't allow a suburban development, most of the people who buy property there would qualify as homesteaders. If a town and/or development goes in, the first people who move there are settlers, even if they don't realize it or think about it. If you are simply self sufficient, you CAN say that you are homesteading under the modern understanding of of it, but you wouldn't be an actual homesteader... But, honestly, I'm not sure even lawyers would care until we start settling again.

[@steel8231]

I could see a martian surface installation becoming pretty profitable as a resort for both the ultra-wealthy from Earth and for Asteroid miners who want to walk somewhere with real gravity and a horizon but don't want to take the months longer trip to Earth. We're already fairly sure Mars orbit is going to be pretty important for gravity assists, free acceleration will never not be valuable.

[@boobah5643]

It's not free-free, just mostly free. Every time you use Mars to speed yourself up, you slow Mars's orbit/push its orbit further out. Maybe there'll never be enough traffic for it to matter; I'm hoping otherwise.

[@JoshuaEFinley]

You bring up the AI bit with advanced 3D printing technology suiting our every need. I imagine if Humanity were ever to be run by a super AI in the background it might supply some of us with access to simply make whatever we want simply because of the infinite possibilities and the pursuit of knowledge. Modern AI learns and creates through emulation. It could one day gain imagination but even if it does, the more minds you have, the more possibilities you can pursue at once. Humans would simply become a part of that great program to feed the expanding knowledge but allowed to live freely in order to not remove or overlook unique solutions to problems that could be applied somewhere else. Hopefully we won't be trapped in a VR Matrix scenario and instead be allowed to dive out into the universe in controlled study scenarios.

[@jlmwatchman]

The First Self Sustaining Habitat: ‘Don’t we already have the ability to build it??? Right we are still missing the nuclear space tug.’ If you have read my comments, then you know about the hyper-gravity habitat vehicle concept. The complete ring has 12 cars that are 24 meters long, 4 meters wide, and 4 meters high. I usually tell you about the double-deck cars with the sleeping capsules on the second floor. If we have 100 residents, we just need 6 cars for sleeping capsules with 6 cars to work and live in. One of the 6 cars will be used for food manufacturing. To be self-sustaining, they will have the nuclear power from the Space Tug that will take the habitat into a safe orbit. They will need nourishing food for a hundred people, which will include fruits and vegetables as well as… Protein enhances your body’s ability to repair and regenerate cells. Carbohydrates ensure you have sufficient fuel for an active day and increase your blood glucose levels, which in turn results in replenishing your energy storage reserves. Healthy fat intake is beneficial to your body. Mealworm fat ensures a steady supply of healthy, unsaturated fat. Dietary fiber lowers your risk of constipation, decreases cholesterol, and regulates your blood glucose levels. Mealworms also include micronutrients and several minerals and vitamins. Mealworm minerals include copper, iron, manganese, magnesium, zinc, sodium, and potassium. Mealworm vitamins include vitamins B5, B12, and B2. Minerals are vital for bone growth and development, whereas vitamins enhance your body’s ability to fight infections. Mushrooms or Fungus nourishments are many; Protein: Mushrooms contain varying amounts of protein, depending on the species. Protein content can range from about 2-4 grams per 100 grams of mushrooms. Fiber: They are a good source of dietary fiber, which aids in digestion and helps maintain bowel regularity. Vitamins: Mushrooms are rich in several vitamins, including: Vitamin D: Some mushrooms, especially those exposed to sunlight or UV light during growth, can be a good source of vitamin D. B vitamins: mushrooms are particularly high in riboflavin (B2) and niacin (B3), which are important for energy metabolism. Vitamin C: While not as abundant as in some fruits and vegetables, mushrooms do contain vitamin C, which is important for immune function and collagen production. Minerals: Mushrooms contain various minerals, including: Potassium: Important for heart health and muscle function. Selenium: Acts as an antioxidant and supports thyroid function. Copper: Necessary for the production of red blood cells and the maintenance of nerve cells. Phosphorus: Essential for bone health and energy metabolism. Zinc: Important for immune function, wound healing, and DNA synthesis. Antioxidants: Mushrooms contain various antioxidants, such as ergothioneine and selenium, which help protect cells from damage caused by free radicals. Hopefully the robotics just need one car to grow and proses to be 3D bio-printed into a wide variety of good meals.

[@SenBilbo]

The real issue is gravity. I am surprised that this isn't talked about as much as it should be. Ideally, we need to know: (1) How much gravity will allow human beings to live natural lives? and (2) how much gravity will allow human beings to develop as relatively normal "Earthling" version humans? I will take a guess and say that 0.9-1.1g is the range for normie Earthling type humans. Making Tolken dwarves in the 1.11-1.49g range is fine with me but I really think we should avoid creating "gaunts" in the under 0.9g category. Small stout humans are alright but outright low gravity freaks are not. This means Venus is perfect for terraforming because it will produce classic Earthling humans from the colonists and their descendants. I think Selene (The Moon) and Mars would have to be compressed (like in Wil McCarthy's To Crush The Moon) in order to be territories to produce classic Earthling type Humans. I hope such technology can be produced and we can to such a transformation. We eventually should consider star lifting so we can build a 2 or 3 new Earthlike planets for the Solar System. Perhaps we can build a rungworld around the Sun (which I call the Alectrona Rungworld, after Alectrona, goddess of the Sunrise) eventually.

[@cacogenicist]

The stress is on the first syllable in "Oregon" -- same as "Michigan." And Oregon and Michigan have the same final schwa vowel. ✅ ORE-uh-gun ❌ ore-uh-GAHN ❌ ORE-ee-GAHN ❌ etc Midwesterns have to learn how to pronounce "Oregon," or Oregonians are going to start throwing things at them. 😊 Pretty much the entire rest of the country has figured it out. It's just the Great Lakes region folks at this point.

[@MrFancyFingers]

Soil is the biggest hurtle, aqua farming only goes so far and soil/compost is going to be very expensive to ship and humanure takes a bit of time and the right microbes to make useable for crops and trees.

[@MrFancyFingers]

I suppose I could make a fortune selling earthworms around Venus.

[@chupacabra304]

@@MrFancyFingerswiggly gold! 🪱

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@boobah5643]

"humanure" nice portmanteau.

[@arkvsi8142]

Sent introverts to colonize planets, they wont break apart like extroverts who require parties, drugs and beer to feel enotionally stable

[@LD-Orbs]

Most likely: first introverts, then extroverts. If the introverts discover something valuable, the extroverts will come rushing in for the money!

[@splinterbyrd]

Nope. People would go mad confined to a platform floating above the clouds of Venus Venus can be and should be terraformed

[@fanOmry]

Personally, I believe that ASA 3DP gets to the point we can cheaply and reliably use flash graphene to print high quality sheets of it, Musk or Whoever, will have a mission made to make a SkyCity there. Print from onsitu a the City, with an anchor going down that uses the tempeture differencial as a power source. Why? Because Venus would be a perfect Shipyard planet.

[@SmoochieRoo]

17:28 AHA I GET IT Their "foundation"

[@lgjm5562]

Story idea; miner outpost flings megaton size icecubes towards the core economy. Aliens attack . Though no official weapons, the humans reprogram the sling to hurl pea sized bullets near the speed of light.

[@mouseblackcat5263]

Should apply these Technologies and Techniques to Antarctica and our Terrestrial Oceans. We know more about the Surfaces of Other Planets than we do about the Floors of our own Oceans. 😮

[@aserta]

21:16 that one's a bit of a false assertion. Kinda like some people think that "the only machine that can make a copy of itself is a lathe" .. which obviously it cannot. There's no 3D printer that can print a copy of itself. It's too complex. You can have an assembly line for existing parts to be assembled into a 3D printer, but not A printer that can print a smaller printer. And as is now, there's nothing that could be made to make one. Not without a level of complexity reaching billions of dollars and a big CHEAT sticker on the cover, because it would have to be multiple machines hidden under one (kinda like some printer have both metal and plastic feature printing and they can also self-recycle or accept material to be recycled as filament (tho afaik, there's only one that can do that and it was a gimmick)).

[@hjones4922]

Such self-sufficiency would depend on nanotech and biotech to make complex molecules, materials and products from simple raw materials, as well as AI to fill in all the skills gaps that any family-sized group would lack in order to operate and maintain all that high tech. I think it is more likely that space settlements would grow out of scientific outposts or mining operations. "Homesteading" appeals to those who like the outdoors - the one thing that's missing in space. Settlements would be urban in nature.

[@intothevoid2046]

What everyone forgets: Only the first generation will be there out of free will. Children born there will be slaves of Mars. Growing up under a dome in low gravity, perhaps never able to visit earth, no free choice of profession - because everyone in the colony is needed for it's maintenance, no traveling, no free choice of partners, probably even genetically modified, also against their will. Who wants to do that to their children? And if someone does, do you think these children will feel as part of humanity? More likely they will at some point take matters in their own hands, separate from earth and see themselves as a different species, with no love for those who condemned them to this life.....

[@Warchin007]

If we could move (Pys 16) into Mars orbit then Mars could benifit Earth.😁

[@paperburn]

So Zathras talks to dirt. Sometimes talks to walls or talks to ceilings, but dirt is closer. Dirt used to everyone walking on it. Just like Zathras, but we have come to like it. It is our role. It is our destiny in the Universe. So you see, sometimes dirt has insects in it. Zathras like insects. Not so good for conversation, but much protein for diet.

[@markgouthro7375]

This reminds me of the Heinlein story Farmer in the Sky where they terraform Ganymede. A long way between Farmer in the Sky and All You Zombies. It also makes me wonder if Heinlein was always a weirdo or did it grow on him..

[@Adam-ul2px]

I love my little corner of Earth and would probably never leave unless they can get me to another Gaia world, i could see having a weekend place with a big sky view of one of the gas giants though😮

[@bigjermboktown6976]

I love this channel. There's a comfort I find in watching and listening to you talk

[@stevenpilling5318]

The template for all of this will be fleshed out on Mars over the next few centuries.The lessons learned there will extend across the galaxy.

[@GordonSeal]

This video makes me sad I don't live in this future.

[@LD-Orbs]

You can still help build it.

[@ventusvindictus]

Love the references to David Weber's Honor Harrington series. Feels like not enough sci-fi fans have read it.

[@furaigames6837]

It’s a good day when Isaac uploads a new video!

[@MrIzzyDizzy]

Same title as PE Rowes up coming community selected story. He gives you so much credit for his story ideas. you should interview him. His Space Homesteading story is coming up soon. This week is the 17th episode of "The Misfits" and it was great.

[@sevex9]

I think homesteaders of the future are going to have robots do like 95% of the work. I doubt that it will be singular families too, probably more like 20 people. I guess a lot depends on how Earth-like the world is, and how the government decides to implement it. They may have a great deal of it planned out. They may contract companies to do most of the agricultural development, no real homesteaders necessary. Maybe actual homesteading will be for the rougher environments and not the massive projects. It might look like a family claiming an asteroid or kuiper belt object and doing what they can from there.

[@joselucnico]

In the future nobody will remember the earth because it is dead. And new générations don’t care about the stone age

[@james_t_kirk]

*Admittedly, these videos are entertaining to watch. But...that said, we must ALL remember that we will all be dead, buried, and long, long, long, gone before any of these hypothetical events ever come to pass. In other words, none of us will ever live to see any of this. Nor will our children, or our children's children - or one hundred generations hence. Not one single scintilla of it.*

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

You saying it doesn't make it true, but you could be right. Still, I think you have a very inappropriate username to be saying things like that :)

[@Phoenix10_UK]

I love to concept of independent people or small groups creating their own homes on new worlds. I have always said if one day anyone could have a spaceship as commonly as we have cars and homes now. I would certainly get a ship large enough for me, the equipment needed, which would now include 3D printers. Travel to the stars, and if it were possible find a small planet or moon that is suitable to habitation but has no advance lifeforms to settle on. I doubt that will happen in my lifetime, but one can only dream

[@annoyed707]

How about a medium-sized asteroid with dozens of small habitat 'moons' around a developed central hub with shared services and larger population accessible to those who want it?

[@Phoenix10_UK]

@@annoyed707 That sounds like an interesting community 👍

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@rapidthrash1964]

Dibs on Elysium Mons (Mars)

[@HighLatencyEmu]

No it's mine I'm going to have a house on top of it with a massive spiral staircase leading up to it but a secret life for me

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@russellnolan9212]

Economics currently limits us and desires to continue in its purpose. Yet it should die for efficiency's sake. New materials, automation, and emerging farming techniques should make living easy. Printers will seemingly beam parts together. (Suspened particles) We already leave it to AI. It should be a "no brainer."

[@boobah5643]

Economics is an admission of limits. It doesn't go away. You're always limited in some way, and economics is about how you choose to spend those limited resources.

[@dremanu]

@@boobah5643 Limited resources is a consequence of being stuck on planet earth. If human beings can take it to the stars, then there are no more limited resources. There are billions of planets and asteroids filled with countless resources to be harvested.

[@KingcoleIIV]

You have a beautiful family Isaac. Cheers.

[@removechan10298]

beautiful family! congrats

[@vasudev7828]

I've been trying to wet my feet in this genre of science fiction and writing - I'm loving The Expanse so far. If you have any other piece you love (book, TV show, anything really), please let me know!

[@innerstrengthcheck]

What a cosy bedtime story! Lol love your timing Isaac :)

[@isaacarthurSFIA]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@cannonfodder4376]

Another informative and uplifting look into a positive lifestyle among many of the future. Wonderful video, Isaac.

[@francoiseeduard303]

It is the “shift” to small families that will be a motivator as to why my faction and I fled this System. We flee persecution. Obviously, due to the nature of the colonial endeavor, there will be exclusivity and we will not let just anyone in. They will never be able to kill us all off!

[@keithplymale2374]

Homesteading as an Aldrin Cycler sounds interesting to me.

[@ramuk1933]

Video Idea: Interplanetary/Interstellar Internet

[@comentedonakeyboard]

Our little House in Space

[@Crustpope]

Nice! Homesteading in Space is an interesting concept but how does it happen in relation to government regulation, backing up and enforcing the claims?

[@HighLatencyEmu]

What government? A United earth can't tell anyone in space what to do unless they like rocks flung at them that have been sling shot around the solar system to several percent the speed of light

[@HighLatencyEmu]

Every unwanted regulation on me would be an unwanted rock flung at earth

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@wolfetteplays8894]

Same way it worked with America and Taiwan lmao

[@АртурМилкович]

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[@DavidEvans_dle]

That George Astride has away with words, very poetic especially considering if things go sideways, you go from homesteading to Mark Watney in "The Martian". Amphetamine potatoes - yuck.

[@sarcasmo57]

Lets hurry up and send blimps to Venus.

[@tomaszkarwik6357]

Other than the ICs (i know this is a currently the biggest problem . CURRENT 3d printers (for now theoretically, as that project is still in development. Ie all tech is possible just not integrated all together) can self replicate

[@gustavderkits8433]

Very enjoyable episode, especially with the personal touch, but the economic case is very thin and the value of the free gifts of earth is assumed. You need about the equivalent of ten meters of water around you in all directions even to start removing enough galactic cosmic radiation to begin to think of a viable homestead. If you export food, you have to import C,H,O,N,P,S and trace elements. The shipping costs are high. The startup investment is high. Note that international firms on earth constantly optimize the whole cost of a supply chain. The cost of assembly in China vs Mexico for the North American or Hungary for the Euro market are in the computer now. Firms can be stranded if the algorithm says they’re on the wrong route by one percent or less. Space suppliers could be quickly starved if an invention makes it one percent cheaper to use another orbit. In a park in South Dakota you can see what’s left of homesteads of people who bought land in a desert. There are good reasons why Almonzo Wilder moved the Little House so many times.

[@Grevnor]

My literal first thought upon learning the number of humans required to maintain a stable population indeginately without inbreeding was just a few thousand, was to ask myself "Venus or Mars?", and if it was possible as more than a fantasy, to round up some people and start a colony. Definitely born in the wrong century. Also, if colonizing Venus or Mars miraculously became feasible overnight, I don't think you would have any problems finding volunteers. There are enough people utterly sick of the planet we currently live on, or rather the living conditions, they would rather move to another planet and start over.

[@brennencox516]

32:10 I highly doubt you actually like that game Isaac. I tried it based on you recommending/advertising it, and I just don't believe you would really enjoy it.

[@edpistemic]

Isaac, I love your channel but I come to you for futurism, not autobiographical photos of wedded bliss. I get you're proud of your wife and family but maybe keep that stuff for personal blog updates?

[@musicmanmatt87]

Ahhhhh! Please look up how to pronounce Oregon correctly! Lol. it's so frustrating how many people pronounce it incorrectly.

[@LaserGuidedLoogie]

Why pupmp water on Europa from the undersea ocean, likely to be several miles down, when you can just melt the ice on the surface. You'd have to purify it either way.

[@kungfuchimp5788]

Farmer In The Sky

[@patrickmchargue7122]

See you in the Oort cloud!

[@Davidsavage8008]

Space Homesteading , 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I could NOT refuse. 😲 dream on until your dreams come true.

[@8darktraveler8]

Proposed and later married my wife on a lookout at at nature reserve where the clouds hug the steep cliffs below. Looked like we were on the clouds, monsoonal rains season were beginning and dry creeks were bursting with water. Not a superstitious man myself, but the area is also known as a sacred fertility site where the water of life originates. Taking my family off world and living on a frontier governed and protected by AI would be a dream come true.

[@lightsone2159]

Humans will probably get to Mars someday when a reliable spacecraft is built, but there's not much time left. Soon, space exploration will become a fable because there won't be anyone left to worry about it.

[@sebber7992]

That's the "Heinlein Prize" at 36:03; not the Robert A. Heineken Award. Got mixed up

[@MikeColes]

Don't bother with the game. It's crap turned out by fly-bynight developers.

[@raulpetrascu2696]

If anyone wants to see the struggles of establishing a colony watch Raised by Wolves, great sci-fi show mixed with religious themes

[@midnightbluevt]

>that saccharine proposal Oh my God gag me with a fork already. Cool video though.

[@SifiFan]

I need this home now to get away from my neighbors.. thank you for the video. I'm a subscriber for a while now. 😊

[@robertgraybeard3750]

at 20:00 one way around (or out of) Mars' gravity well is with a space elevator. With Mars' lower gravity, Kevlar's strength/weight is sufficient.

[@jackdbur]

Skyhooks from Photos & Deimos! 😊

[@robertgraybeard3750]

@@jackdbur well . . . science.nasa.gov/mars/moons/phobos/ Phobos is below geostationary orbit and is decaying. A settlement on Phobos would be inside that mini-moon. They would use solar powered mass drivers to de-spin it and boost it to geostationary orbit. The ejecta would be well below orbital velocity and impact Mars or, more likely, burn up in the atmosphere. Then as an elevator cable is manufactured and extended to the surface a matching cable is manufactured and extended outward, so the moon stays at geostationary orbit. Perhaps the entier cable will be manufactured and the carefully unspooled. It may be necessary to import the necessary nitrigen and hydrogen from Mars. Once the cable reaches the surface and is attached, material can be sent to the end of the outward cable to surve as the counterweight pulling the cable tight. Then importing and exporting will be very easy, at just the cost of electricity for the cable cars. Using Deimos as the basis for a second space elevator will be difficult because, if it is moved to statioary orbit, with every orbit it would have to miss Phobos and the Phobos elevator. Perhaps as Phobos is being relocated, Deimos would be relocated to an orbit above where the Phobos counterweight will eventually be located. If the Phobos counerweight is very massive it need not be very far out.