Ishod Wair’s WEIRD Skateboard Setup Hack!

Ishod Wair's Weird Skateboard Setup Hack is supposedly meant to help you lock into grinds. Ishod Wair's Weird Skateboard Setup Hack is putting three washers inside each wheel. Ishod Wair said on the Nine Club he does this weird skateboard setup hack to widen the truck size. After trying this Ishod Wair's Weird Skateboard setup hack I noticed it really helped give me more stability rolling up to and on top of the rail. After testing it I'm going to keep using Ishod Wair's Weird Skateboard Setup Hack indefinitely.
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[@ilikelittlebikes]

I’ve been running 3 washers on the inside forever but my reasoning is a little different. The axle nut sits flush with the end of the axle so you never get stuck with mangled threads. As long as you use freshie axle nuts when you change wheels the chance of a nut coming loose and backing off is very low.

[@komoonkh]

Exactly. I do that for almost 20years. I do two inside and one outside. With Indys, it stays flush and never kills my axles

[@SUB0SCORION]

I do the same. This is the way

[@remcovanbuuren5383]

Trie 149 trucks versus 148 trucks on a 8.25 ? Would like to see your experience for alround feel, especially flips and grinds. Personally i switch sometimes but more out of boredom i like change in feel sometimes it's interesting, 149's feel a bit more comfortable on 8.25 for me especially in skateparks and ramps but keep it 148 mostly. Some friends skate only 149 because of grinds on ledges e.t.c. on their 8.25's.

[@onetwo234]

I don’t think Ishod is worried about threads when he gets new skate parts all day.

[@swamitchell3046]

@@onetwo234 thought the same bro😆..not to mention any even halfway serious skater has a tool to retread the axles..an us OGs even got one for the kingpin😉

[@franciscoramirez9867]

Ishod the kind of guy to take CBD and pretend like he's stoned

[@Shay-dn7cz]

I laughed so fucking hard at this comment 🤣 😂

[@printisdead1983]

Lmao

[@ryandunn837]

You want a "cbd" product that does get you stoned try Seventh Hill CBDs caramels. They have ones with 30mg THC 10mg CBD. Still legally hemp derived but dang theu get me rippes. 3:1 is the magic ratio.

[@swamitchell3046]

Naw dude bet ishod stay high af...1st-watch all his parts..especially sabotage 3 remix..sick,sick trick selection lined up beautifully w one of the best tracks eva-8 ball and MJG "9 little millimeter boys" id do that bro..I am high af. 2nd-watch how he talks,like check out his 9 club interview..homie is high fs. Take it from a drug master..never understand y skaters drink to loosen up..drugs must have better. A'ways,he's def had a couple rips off the trees before the interview..put $ on it

[@malikclaiborne6186]

@@swamitchell3046 i was about to say nah bro def be smokin

[@hawaiiskaterdad]

Dude, me and my friends did this back in the 90's and I started doing it when I restarted skating in 2010. I got like a fat pack of slim washers a long time ago, lol. I did this to push the wheels out, keep the nut flush and think wide and low like a corvette for speed, especially now for bowl/park/transition skating. I used 149 indys on a 9inch board like this and I never had a complaint, then I got the 159's for my new 9. But I guess its good to spread the info, not everyone would think of doing this.

[@rakkup7572]

Another good hack for park and tranny speed is removing the dust caps from the bearings. I’ve had bones reds (black I think) for years and they’ve never had a dirt issue and spin for days STILL. Really helped my speed. Maybe everyone knows that one but hey, never know. ✌🏼

[@hawaiiskaterdad]

@@rakkup7572 I heard of that but never tried it. Back in the 90's we used the cheap german bearings with non removable metal shield, when they died we went to the hardware store and got more for cheaper than the skateshop! Personally my speed hack is bones ceramic bearings! I got the non-china set for $80 back in 2012, still got them today and these things fly! And get faster after each cleaning! Spins for a whole week! Compared to ceramics, steel bearings feel gritty to me, these things make the ride feel like its on ice! But one day I'll try the bronson raw and ride some reds without shields to see how it goes.

[@rakkup7572]

@@hawaiiskaterdad hahaha those bearings remind me of the abec numbers and if they were a high number they were better. Zip 3 years into the future, dollar store sellin rollerblades with abec 9’s in every one of those 10 wheels. There’s one portion of a childhood ruined by the German bearing number system lol!

[@DAVAND23]

I ride a similar setup to Ishod's but with Venture 5.2 and two washers on the inside of my wheels. It pushes out the wheels to just under where they'd be with a 8.25 hanger. The leverage from having a magic carpet setup feels great.

[@vincemallow9019]

I believe the main reason he does it is because he skates 147 thunders on an 8.38

[@cappy_skateboarding7920]

Exactly and was not mentioned here

[@JP-pl1qx]

yes, and because the Thunder 147 (8-inch trucks) are lower in height and have a different geometry/pop feel compared to a Thunder 148 (8.25) or a Thunder 149 (8.5)

[@vincemallow9019]

@@JP-pl1qx agreed, I prefer the 147 myself

[@ianturnbow7011]

I’ve run 147s on an 8.25 for 8+ years, but have some Hollow Light 148s on ice. How different is the pop feel and geometry? I assumed the 148 would be closer to 147s rather than take on the 149 geometry. 149s always felt a bit weird to me-too wide and harder to flip.

[@vincemallow9019]

@@ianturnbow7011 for me the 148 are slightly taller, I like my trucks to be as low as possible

[@sonikboom007]

Ive been doin this for 25+ years... not for techie grinds but just ocd about keep my axle nuts flush with the axel ends lol

[@masterroshi4714]

this comes from freestyle skateboarding, we have to stack washers in order to make the offset wheels sit flush with the rail of the board for rail stands (and primo slides i guess)

[@dolamike584]

That honestly makes a lotta sense.🤔 You killed it on that rail brotha!

[@calebcersovsky7834]

Can you do a review on Nike SB Alleyoops, I’ve been thinking about getting them.

[@boosts14]

The real comparison would be running 149s then running 147s with the extra washers on the same size board

[@andrewhightower]

Off-set wheels should be more of a thing. I have waltz freestyle wheels for street and I never considered the difference for pinching grinds(I can’t crook but I can suski🤷🏻‍♂️). I’d say they are worth it just for protecting the axle alone; especially if you do any kind of primo stalls.

[@ErickGarciaVlogs]

You're killing it man! I see the progress fs.

[@BoZhaoengineering]

I use 151 thunder with a real deck 8.5 , which is almost perfect. Polar 8.6 deck would be a perfect fit to the 151 axel length. But both sizes are completely fine to setup.

[@timmyriding8]

Have you rode 149 Thunders with a 8.5 deck? Just wondering if you have, and if so, why you prefer the 151 over the 149s? I have an 8.5 Real Zion twin tail with Thunder 149's and it's very new to me, as I am to skating.. But I rode Indy 144's with 8.38's before stepping up, and in comparison, the Indy+8.38 setup hangs over the wheels more, and Im debating whether I like the less amount of overhang with my 8.5+149s more or not. I feel like 151's would go out too far for comfort for me, much like the 149s with an 8.38 board.

[@JOYOODBOYOO]

@@timmyriding8 for more stability go with 151s on 8.5 but for me personally I find the geometry of the 149s is perfect with 8.5, helps with getting leverage which I notice is harder with the 151s on 8.5👌🏽

[@EnjoiSweatshopMoney]

Done this forever. We rode some skinny boards and trucks back in the day. This gives you about an extra 16th inch on either side which helps lock in to coping. Also will make your board flip a little slower.

[@ramrunsfast]

Meanwhile in Brazil, it seems a good chunk of skaters I know ride their axel flush and leaves enough space for the wheels to slide back and forth.

[@nicholashrycaj4834]

I've been doing this to save my axle threads. I've been doing this for 5 years now, no threading issues

[@jonathancord6259]

I tried the washer trick and the first session my wheel fell off and I lost all the washers and the nut

[@jeffli480]

I do 2 inside 1 outside, and I also use a bearing spacer inside the wheel, it just makes the wheels feel more solid/stable to me. Having the wheels farther apart makes the board feel more stable rolling, but it also should make your trucks feel slightly looser because you’re increasing the leverage you get over the edge of the board.

[@vorpalblades]

If you don't use spacers and washers the bearings don't operate properly. The inner races just end up spinning on the axle. The spacers also prevent deflection when the urethane deforms.

[@JohnAvillaHerpetocultural]

I think the reason this locks better is that the ends of the hanger taper. You are creating a deeper channel for the obstacle to sit in.

[@kwote]

I do 1 on the inside and 2 on the outside, but that’s just to prevent axle from getting jacked up, so the nut never gets stuck. I learned it from Ronnie Creager. It works.

[@ripturha3867]

Other way around. There is no point putting 2 outside. Just 1 outside because after that there is no point putting more. Inside makes the differece

[@SixStringSlinger1]

I've been wondering about those symmetrical Glider boards... Wonder how good they are.

[@localjoe]

I’ve got a discount code “EVERYDAYISFRIDAY” I believe that still works. I don’t get paid but it should save you some money. I’d definitely give them a try I love the shape

[@SixStringSlinger1]

@@localjoe hey I appreciate that my guy! Keep up the good work too. I'm pretty new to your channel but I love the content

[@mattwrixon7026]

try putting one on the outside as well and then you can tighten your nut all the way to prevent wheel slip. A loose wheel is bad for your bearings.

[@some_random_penguin]

But you also need spacers tho.. otherwise there will be side pressure on the bearings which will cause them to break faster

[@Hipsters_N_Hippies]

He’s going to love Andy Anderson’s new pro model wheels.

[@franciscoramirez9867]

Seems no different than buying wider trucks and tightening the axle nuts until there's just a little give

[@localjoe]

This way your threads aren’t exposed and gonna get ruined.

[@franciscoramirez9867]

Oh gotcha, I just do ollies, shuv, bigspin, 180 basic stuff right now so never had that problem

[@johnautry2711]

I’m going to try this today 🔥🔥🔥

[@fernandoreyes680]

These setup hack videos are my favorites. Keep it up Joe!

[@vascocarrilho1979]

Hey man, what wheels you riding?

[@yokaibyte2133]

I've done this for years because I want the axel nut to be flush with the outer tip of the axel. This way the axel won't mushroom and you can't put in a new axel nut.

[@gabeheiserman7600]

What kind of flat bar

[@ibookboyuk]

[Pro tips.] I've always used speed washers. The best reason to use three is it makes the nut flush so you don't grind the axle and can't get the nut off It's best to use spacers in between the bearings and tighten it fully so your nut doesn't fall off

[@chasemorse149]

Spacers on inside of wheel like hes talking about doesnt space out the nut in relation to wheel/bearing on outside. Speed washers sound like something someone got you on at a shop or online cause that sounds like a sick gimmik i wish i woulda came up with. But you do you bro just clarifying the vid.

[@jt4tado]

i’m lost. just ride bigger trucks? seems like a hack to make your trucks feel 2 millimeters wider when you can just get bigger trucks. like they make different sizes. if anyone is concerned about axle threads sticking out just properly put speed washers on both sides of the wheel. nut will cover threads and that’s what the washers are made for, to seat the bearing for optimal spinning. so they’ll spin good and last long.

[@ponyboy7825]

I’m with ya man I don’t get this

[@vorpalblades]

If you don't use a spacer inside the wheel the bearings still aren't operating properly. The inner races just spin on the axle.

[@nullbyt]

Shouldn't you lock into 50-50 with your trucks offset?

[@drill4408]

Where do I get a bag of washers like that? Thnx,

[@AspiringSpaceWizard]

Your a brave man with the heel-side pinch

[@jaciobe]

I ride wider trucks. So 8.25 hanger on an 8" width board

[@localjoe]

That’s crazy!

[@komoonkh]

Its actually pretty good that way. Dan Corrigan does that too. Only a little bit of your wheels sticks off, because it is designed to be covered entirely with the deck( sometimes decks are not the perfect size tho)

[@SNOwyte]

I would ride one washer on the inside n it seemed to increase speed...not sure if its the same type of placebo effect that seems to be going on here but i stopped doing it bc in terms of landing it seemed to make things a bit slippery...also im no longer lacking in terms of how many washers i have so that also played a part

[@G3T_R3KT_XM8]

Nice Video dude!

[@mr.thammisses6119]

I already do this after I heard ishod talk about it. So I've prolly been doing it for about 4 months or so. Honestly idk if it helped with my grinds but I like to see my wheels slightly under more board. I skate a 8 25 with 8 5 trucks then the 3 washers on the inside. I can just barely see my wheels when I'm on my board. I hate how matching trucks feels like I'm skating on a rip stick without the extra length on the side lol.

[@PHeMoX]

Having your truck stick out past the edge of your board will result in a way less stable setup for grinds though. People generally don't like it when I point it out, but the balance is spot on when your trucks / wheels line up flush with the edge of the board. Assuming you don't skate abnormally wide wheels, it's going to have the best of all worlds.

[@mr.thammisses6119]

@@PHeMoX that would make sense. Since I'm guessing the pinch for stuff would be centered more under you. I haven't noticed to much difference when I grind. I'm looking to buy a flat bar soon so I can just sit at home and do some setup/grind experiments. Thank you for the advice. 😁 Oh and I skate fairly big spit fire wheels 56mm mostly because where I live the asphalt is really rough. And I kinda hate skating at parks.

[@swamitchell3046]

@@mr.thammisses6119 its weird u get the flaky pinch on just grinds tho,I would think like ur pinch on 3 flips,impossibles,pressure flips,varial heels,possibly depending on how u fs flip,I mean I could sit here all night naming tricks that require pinch broski..having ur wheels sit outside the wheel base would fuck that shit up(but ay I ain't no scientist either fool,so don't hold the G to it)

[@mr.thammisses6119]

@@swamitchell3046 when it comes to flip tricks it doesn't bother me one bit. I actually never felt any difference in flip tricks. my wheels are barely past my board literally if you are directly on top of it you still can't see them wheels. If you look at a board with the same exact width trucks the wheels actually sit under while the nut is flush with the board. You can still stand on my board primo. Funny thing is I skate it perfectly fine and pinching my grinds I normally do really don't seem any different. So yeah you can harp on me all you want about pinching and balance but the shit pretty much skates the exact same as it did with 8 . 25 trucks. I mean it's literally .25 deference. If you really feel like that changes things that much then you are lying to yourself cause I've first hand experience that it doesn't make much of a difference. Fuck give me any board for a day and by the end of that day I bet you I can easily land all my tricks.

[@mr.thammisses6119]

@@swamitchell3046 I wish I could send links here cause I'd just show you a picture. If you got on my board and didn't know the trucks were slightly bigger then you'd probably never know. Cause you can't really tell by eyeing it. I could see your shit getting super wonky and fucked up if you're wheels were hanging out the sides like long board trucks. Feel free to Barrow . 25 bigger trucks and try your flip tricks out for yourself. I'm sure you'd see that you barely notice a difference. Also I'm not the only one who does this. I'm pretty sure I got this originally from watching Dan Corrigan and that man pinches grinds all day. He's got a decent bag of flip tricks to You can go watch his board setup to proof check me be my guest.

[@svnbit8408]

What size board and trucks

[@peacelovebrad]

Washers help you tune in the ratio between board width and where your wheels contact the ground, so the widths of your deck, trucks, and wheels all factor into the equation. We all experience waves of mental illness wherein we believe there is a perfect setup, a Personal Golden Ratio that, when discovered, will unlock higher levels of potential. We call it "The Madness". The path back to sanity is to just settle on something that feels good enough, and stop tinkering with the setup long enough to actually get comfortable with it. The struggle is real. Get help if you need it.

[@anqrrw]

liking the go pro angle

[@alonzovs]

Joslin does this too, but he only put 2 on the inside

[@Pr0hunt3r18]

This a reupload ? I swear I saw this more than 10 days ago...

[@jhi-fly4awhiteguy]

How random I've been thinking of doing this, didn't know it was a thing.

[@thatdudesalim]

lets give it ISHOD!😉

[@skateboardkid420]

or, you could just get slightly wider trucks, or narrower wheels

[@Dankx]

yo where can i get that rail??

[@localjoe]

Custom local dude did it

[@andrewcruz8470]

Great video man, unlocked O.G. Deluxe Distribution truck riders hack. 💎💎💎💎💎💎✨✨🤙🤙

[@EdilsonKabal]

Bye bye berings haha. The pressure against his: boom

[@thearianmandalorian]

ahahah i thought i was the only one doing that ahaha. thats hilarious man, been doing that since the 90s

[@colesmith7230]

Come on man you’re better than placebo 😂 it’s like 2mm difference, and like others said, it’s to push the wheel out closer to the end of the axel, allowing the wheel to be further outward when compromising with a slightly smaller set of trucks on a slightly oversized board. The small difference that is needed, rather than buying too big of trucks. Also, skateboarding isn’t a very good “constant” to use scientifically. There’s so many confounding variables. You might’ve just been more warmed up at the end of your session by the time you got around to this “hack”. I think we can all agree we do a trick better, the more warmed up we are, and the more we repeat it. To truly prove this, we would need to somehow measure several skateboarders’ success rate, after they are already subjectively warmed up. There’s just too many variables to consider, especially when you’re trying to say that an extra 2.5mm at the most is truly doing anything else mechanically. In the grand scheme of things, it’s almost a negligible difference in relationship to a better pinch. If it were giving an extra .75cm or more movement for greater pinch, I’d reconsider, but two to three washers at this width ain’t it. Think about it.

[@PHeMoX]

As much as I want to believe the washers matter, I can't see how it would. It's not significantly wider, not to mention how you could simply ride a skinnier wheel and achieve the same thing. And plenty of larger wheels would lock in better in a more significant way, than widening a truck ever could. Having said that, if it works for him, more power to him. But I do think we see a lot of nonsense level hacks. There are also trucks out there that are naturally a tiny bit wider. Perhaps go with those instead. I ride 8.5" Tensor trucks on a 9.1" deck on one of my setups and with wide wheels they line up perfectly flush again to such an extent you can do rail stand freestyle tricks on it. Plenty of such setup tricks would only work with just the right wheel and truck combo. So, in other words, I understand how there can be hack that work. But this doesn't seem one of them.

[@AspiringSpaceWizard]

I mean i notice the difference between 54mm wheels and 52 so mms in skating do seem to make a difference. Not sure if this is comparable to the washers on the axle because i have not dabbled in that

[@Fittedhat]

ishod does this because his trucks are smaller than the board

[@reup4023]

This, he runs Thunder 147s with his 8.38 twin tail, the washers get the wheels set to basically 148 hanger size, saving a few grams in weight running the smaller truck. Also 147s are lower height than 148s 👀

[@Berry500Laps]

Iv been doing this before I knew anyone else had the same idea

[@shmandan]

You need to do DKL grip if you haven’t yet.. shit is good idc what anyone says.

[@some_random_penguin]

Why are you promoting fake Nikes? And if they're fake, why do they cost $160

[@sungameloc]

I don't get how ishod skates thunders so loose, even if he does or doesn't use risers.

[@unquestionabletv]

Why not just ride wider trucks?

[@SchwappSchwopp]

are the dunks you're skating in this vid also fake ones?

[@localjoe]

Yeah they are I can’t afford to buy real ones.

[@jackietreehorn8643]

Y’all spend real money on fake watches shockingly- Jay-Z

[@SchwappSchwopp]

@@jackietreehorn8643 I didn't even say I bought them lol

[@SchwappSchwopp]

@@localjoe legit

[@atypical_blk_guy]

@@jackietreehorn8643 😂😂, man I looked up the price of fake dunks and they're at least $150. That's 2 pairs of adidas for me.

[@kipchoga3808]

I put only two in side i think three are too much i cant tight them down😂 5-0 are fire

[@localjoe]

Thanks it really helped me with the smith

[@jamazonnewyork3221]

cool sounds

[@GnarlyCharly]

Why do you not tighten your wheels all the way?! You said it yourself, the wheels slipping side top side, effect your skating negatively.

[@localjoe]

Because a little slide makes powerslides and reverts easier that’s the downside of switching to this

[@FirelordRob76]

i use more rings than Sonic the hedgehog.

[@hobbeskillah]

Good vibes

[@knitterfreiyoutube]

I use 4 washers. Eat this.

[@andrewnicholls5148]

And me! 4 washers inside on Indy 144’s on an 8.25 board. Debating going up to 8.38 with 149’s though

[@OGANGLER]

You should learn cross lock bro

[@yes11889]

Also lock in really has nothing to do with washers it comes down to wheel diameter and truck and board size not washers which are only for speed and less friction when rolling there so small because of this factor if your slapping in 3 and than 4th on the end I could only imagine how terrible that would be feel if you actually used spacers like everyone should but I guess reds have literally made skaters such imbecile that we think not using them is the correct thing to do

[@brad6555]

I didn’t know Ed Sheerin skated

[@Artificial_Fishing]

You should cross lock ur 5050s

[@raildude270]

I’ve been doing this for years, other pros do it too

[@franciscoramirez9867]

Ishod is like a grown up 14 yr old, everything's a joke/nothing is serious

[@onetwo234]

Not at all where did you get that from

[@ZebraGears]

5:10 Deez Nuts

[@TonyMontana-iq1vq]

Now there’s going to be another wave of fake dunks fucking up the market lmao

[@Therealav]

I did this and it kinda helped ahaha !

[@jouhajohnny]

I have 2 inside 1 outside

[@bennerdan]

never make a recording while cicadas are around

[@kotec2926]

i do it with 2 washer inside;)

[@ramonfranco61]

Wtf i do the exact same thing

[@LonnieHutchinson90]

Bro you gotta learn how to cross lock it’s so much safer

[@frankcastle3827]

Fake dunks or not just be happy you even got a pair of shoes

[@mitsuracer87]

I've been doing this forever. Who wants axle sticking out past your wheels?

[@yes11889]

My questions is has either you or ishod use spacers because this would fix your problems of lock in I mean after you saying thag you run your bolt on the end kinda makes me think you don't I mean I can't believe a pro skater would be so stupid to not run spacers and makes up for it with this dumb solution because you won't have this problem if you do

[@cyttoraknz8622]

Rating them out of ten is not the scientific method lol

[@beatbo0xer]

i did/do this aswell lol

[@justusmakinen7733]

Ishod didn't do the washer thin for pinch, he did it so the nut would sit flush on the axle so you are not telling us any hack that ishod does for pinch

[@localjoe]

Why does he keep mentioning maximizing truck width?

[@justusmakinen7733]

@@localjoe no he doesent he rides 147 for a reason he could ride a wider truck if he needed a wider truck

[@TylerRaffle92]

Buy wider trucks

[@rakkup7572]

250$ for fake Nikes 🤣😶‍🌫️

[@dataghost2307]

Fake dunks are 159? 🤮 as skaters, we should come together and make some other random ass shoe popular. That way, the attention will go away from dunks and we can get them at a reasonable price again. Also my dumb ass doesn't use washers. Not because I don't want to, It's just that I always loose them. 😋

[@philipdennis5020]

I'm skating air walks rn

[@atypical_blk_guy]

Lol bro you're preaching to a brick wall. Getting skaters to skate something other than dunks is like trying to talk someone out of using social media, ain't gonna happen. At this point I feel like the vast majority of people that skate dunks (mainly younger / newer skaters) skate them for status but hide behind the excuse of they skate better in them. I saw a kid at our DIY park with some jordan 1s fresh out of the box, he could barely Ollie on to the curb but the confidence in face you'd swear he thought he'd been skating 10+ years.

[@ReggaeRedeemer]

youtube is getting so fucking lame

[@fabiendecker4936]

I was watching GX1000's"Right here for Pablo" and I ended watching this. I'm tired of these boring bored people trying to teach us shit. I even read the description. The man probably does not wear boxers. It's not mentioned. I'm tired. A bit more of "Right here for Pablo" to forget this and I go back to skate. Ration cameras !

[@chetchelios4095]

By thumbnail picture of the big red arrow pointing, I’d say the hack is…being Ishod