Tyshawn's Method Increased My Pop 6 Inches!

[@RobBassCame2GetDown]

Increase your Ollie by 6 inches! No BS! No credit card!

[@S1E2SportQuattro]

Underrated comment 😂

[@Thorneyeofficial]

😂

[@GabrielConstantinides]

I feel the title is demanding the existence of this comment

[@bobbin.b9434]

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[@Prvldd]

😂😂😂

[@lucasferrell7793]

I tried the new foot placement and focused on popping with the tail behind my body today at the park today, and it's an immediate improvement. You're totally right. You feel much more controlled, and it's easier to pull the board up higher. I tried a kickflip with the same techniques, which I'm getting close on, and it was immediately much more straight and centered under my body. Damn, this is the best skating advice I've found in a while.

[@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629]

nice!

[@randolee-xb3fo]

Yea right!

[@michaeldavis3913]

For Kickflips, your front foot is the flick foot, and the back foot is your pull foot. So when you POP you're flicking with your flick foot which makes the board go forward out from under you, and your POP foot is the one that brings it back for the landing. So you're pushing/pulling at the same time. Flick with the front foot, pull back with the back foot, and you will see you have a nice clean kickflip that stays perfectly underneath you and then you land clean and roll away. Remember to pull back with that pop foot and your ollies/flips will stay perfectly placed under you for the landing. This guys advice in the video is kinda wack. But that's just my opinion after 20+ years of Skateboarding.

[@Trashboat67]

no its not wack it works youre just tryna be some superior weirdo nobody cares if you skated 2 decades or 2 seconds@@michaeldavis3913

[@amdg01007]

This works great with 180 Nollie or fake he maneuvers because you think about popping the tail down diagonal in the backwards direction really helps

[@TheOfficalHawksz]

We got the tyshawn method before gta 6

[@marz_offline]

😂😂

[@thewallflower9809]

💀💀💀

[@Zocet]

We got everything that has ever happened before gta IV bruh this shit crazy 😔

[@Bajue]

@@Zocet we even got gta 5 before gta 6 😭😭

[@mixedfuses8pack48]

Notice his use of an arm swing-watch as he crosses his arms on the way down, and with an explosive movement, swings them up as he pops the board. This technique enhances the power of upward motion. He may be completely unaware of this but I definitely think that this helps.

[@skaterboi65]

Fasho

[@uliveulearnandregret]

So he's Johnny Joestar?

[@GunsForEveryoneIsaac]

Michael Jordan was good at that too

[@uliveulearnandregret]

@@GunsForEveryoneIsaac was?

[@adrok8644]

nothing to do with arms

[@Broyale26]

You forgot 11. Doo-rag for increased aerodynamic profile.

[@BinarySk8]

I’m gonna be honest. I played basketball my whole life. I’m 6’4 and athletic. Just started skating 3 months ago and I can Ollie much higher than everyone at the park. I still can’t even kickflip lol

[@eriklona8806]

I was out of shape when I started, but I knew how to Ollie from when I was a kid. The only thing that helped me get better at ollying higher and taking impact from a higher jump was watching basketball tutorials for dunking 😂 So technically, you have an advantage over kids that just have talent in skateboard tricks. I spend hours kickflipping (over time) even though I can land it first try, I want them to look and feel perfect. I'll watch other younger guys do amazing lines and do a horrible kickflip, so as long as you enjoy showing off your Ollie heights, you should progress that as long as you can, the other tricks will come, and sometimes by accident, when you're so comfortable on the board that tricks will start to be easier to learn. 👍

[@Zw1fty]

i am an athlete and i play basketball and volleyball along with my skating and one thing that stands out more than my high vertical when it comes to my ollie is that i’m 6” so my legs are longer than most of the guys at the park and tucking them in when i ollie gives me more height than someone shorter so i think it’s a combination of things

[@mateuszgasffsajh2644]

Yeah, it all comes to strength and power i'm 5'9 and I can ollie 6 boards, once I did 7. I wish I was taller and I could try 8 :) But if you are not that athletic, you can lift your knees up to ollie higher, it also works.

[@BinarySk8]

@@eriklona8806 I also learned to Ollie as a kid. That’s also a big part of how I’ve quickly built up fat Ollie’s

[@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629]

wow nice

[@johnm3946]

Kareem Campbell has that crazy pop too, don't forget about Brandon Westgate. They would be good to study on their technique.

[@blackhandvst]

Both are great examples, Andrew Brophy is another one

[@ntuthukomavundla6672]

Yes how could we forget Brandon. crazy pop. Jake Hayes is also up there along with Tiago Lemos

[@khiemnguyenhoang2241]

@@blackhandvst

[@mccleandazza4618]

Jake Hayes has the highest ollie

[@nedskaterh]

Kareem 100

[@Dfort_]

Core strength is a key as well

[@MaNuLaToROfficial]

i agree! technique is definitely a huge factor but Muggsy Bogues has huge legs and was in perfect physical condition but yeah bla bla bla im ramblin peace

[@tomas746]

@@MaNuLaToROfficialyeah his legs were crazy. That shit is way crazier than any high Ollie though like when you watch his dunk it doesn’t even look real.

[@PlaySA]

Very cool analysis, I liked it a lot. I'll also say that one thing you didn't mention, which may help you, is that Tyshawn bends VERY deep before he pops. Especially for his height, his knees often touch teach other because he is both bending and swaying his back knee. Reminding me of of pigdog backhand surfing style where the back knee is not only bent but cast sideways.

[@barisharslan6115]

Might be one of the other tips he didn't mention in this vid. Norman Woods has a video on it that's really good and informative, I think it's the first vid in his rookie mistakes series which is great all around.

[@Luke-Emmanuel]

thanks for this, getting back into my skating and i had a high ass ollie and lost it, relearning here as an old ass with not young natural muscular speed and fire and this technique analysis makes so much sense and i remember now, yes, be before your board, let the board follow you always, bring the beast with you

[@MrSuperbarca527]

I'm in the same boat, used to Ollie garbage cans at 19 now 39 and can barley get the board off the ground

[@timflood4518]

In that last ollie, your back foot wasnt in the corner which proves it was just all in your head.

[@sparksten3]

Yeh I noticed this too.

[@sleepn_on_me2473]

Crazy I didnt notice this But i notice i have less control when my heel is hanging off that much I put my foot on the frontside edge of the board and legit try to “bounce” the board away from me Theres like 10 things youre doing at once to ollie But once you get the timing of the jump down Sucking in your knees like this video is suggesting is key! It legit gives me damn near 16-20 inch pop at least Def over a foot

[@thomasriley2584]

Hey I just wanna say you've done a really good job. Seen ya when you first started posting. You've came a long ways. Good content too

[@jeffreyzie]

Breakdown was superb. It’s one thing to share the lesson but to actually show results on how it worked for you was awesome That back knee is the sauce! 👨🏾‍🍳🔥

[@williammartin8459]

We use to watch Natas Kaupas in the Santa Cruz videos back in day and study his technique. Was way ahead of his time. His pop was crazy especially when we all were skating heavier boards before the popsicle revolution took off..

[@thehandleiwantedwasntavailable]

And also - no angled nose which your foot could drag against. Getting a high ollie on an 80's board feels impossible.

[@moriwaki80]

Was going to say the same!

[@juhanimattinen2955]

Thank you so much for this video!❤❤❤ Tried this hack yesterday and my 7 deck ollie went to 9. It took about 5 minutes. Absolutely INSANE. And with same tehnique my kick and heelflips went much higher. Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤ Love you!❤️

[@marsbase3729]

Great analysis dude! another thing that helped me, and you can also see him do it in the vid, is to get your ass closer to the ground and resist the urge to lean your upper body forward. also practicing this during jump squats not only helps with your ollie form but helps increase leg strength wich helps maintain your stability. Also, you can notice the importance of arms in ollies. often overlooked, but notice how he tucks in his arms as he crouches, then throws them up as he pops, then quickly pulls them down when reaches the apex of his pop as pulls his knees to his chest. this using one of Newton's laws of motion (forgot which one, lol), by countering the upward inertia of his his legs allowing him to get his board even higher. I love how you incorporated physics into your analysis! 👍😎👍

[@Vikanuck]

Dude is like a human spring. He bends down so far before popping, then when he does, his entire body just flies upward along with his arms, and I haven’t seen the full vid yet but I guarantee that’s the biggest variable here - his arm movement, and the way it helps him to almost give himself a brief second of lift that the board has to catch up to lol 😄 The old dogs must be hella proud of this guy.

[@kiim_caam]

Used this method after 8 days of trying to Ollie and now it looks crisp. Not perfect but damn good. Thank you man, I subbed and ima hop on that patreon list first chance I get

[@jimgreen8476]

What I've found helps with ollie height is to just keep it simple. Once your body knows how to ollie and does it naturally, all you have to do is think about jumping straight up and as high as you can, tucking your knees as high as they will go. Crouching lower initially helps maintain balance too, but that's just for me.

[@Schlammy7]

But if your feet aren’t setup to guide the board for that kinda jump, your board and feet will separate midair

[@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629]

i still gotta get my first ollie down bros

[@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629]

@@Schlammy7 ohhh

[@observantmonkey4055]

You can practice stalls on high ledges also. Can figure out your own little techniques that way. What i used to do in middle and hs

[@dylanlehmann1387]

@@repentofyoursinsandbelieve629 took me years as a kid, I quit skateboarding and came back to it when I was older and finally had it. if you want it you can do it just be persistent!

[@xrichiexg]

That was something I could never get down pulling the board back my brother taught me that years ago and he does it for everything even kicks his back foot back on his kickflips which helps the board snap up and finishing flipping as it reaches its height and connects to his feet such a clean and beautiful way to skate

[@quentinh5566]

Building hip flexor strength is probably the most crucial thing. If you watch his jump in the ollie, his jump is not very high, his hip is just slightly above the height of the car, which most people can do without a high vertical. All about bringing up the knees imo

[@simonwolfe4324]

Facts. Hip flexors dont lie, shakira shakira

[@kylespevak6781]

Thats literally the entirety.

[@andofb]

Great video and Tips! I will have to implement this. Another thing I would love to see you try is to start doing body squats and calf raises for a month and see how it changes your Ollies. I am 6'2 and over 220 lbs and my ollies are the highest they have ever been compared to when I was 180lbs and I put it almost entirely down to Body Squats and Calf raises. I noticed I also implement the knee technique though. I will have to add the other two.

[@markettrader911]

been skating 20 years, as a 140lb skinny teen to now a jacked 190lb thirtysomething, the weight makes a big difference. i do some things better now but cannot take big drops or ollie as high as i used to

[@skating_after30]

Interesting video Joe. Glad it helped you increase your pop 💪

[@serbiansleeperagent]

Always used to be jealous of short skaters because of their short center of mass, but then i saw Tyshawn. That changed my view pretty drastically, i stand somewhere between 6'0 and 6'1 with really long legs and ive noticed that ollieing over tall things is easier for me as well, so long as i just focus on going over and not on the ollie itself.

[@brighton6]

i just used the tips too and they actually work!!! mainly the one about poping the board back. I think the reason it works is because its like when you jump off of one foot when you're running. its easy to understand and relatable to something youre used to. It simplifies the pop. All you have to do from there is tuck your knees and kick the nose forward.

[@hbskate96]

The backfoot placement is ultimatively also, what helped me to learn the ollie. You get so much more pop and I think its because the less foot you have on ur board to pop the less pressure there is to make the board levitate easier.

[@corsica6565]

That manual on the weight plates was my favorite you guys

[@JchosenOfficial]

yo that's sick!! I like how the physics can be applied. Growing up we all knew these things, passed around the knowledge at skate sessions, "yo put your foot back on the tail get that POP!!" "yo if you tuck your knees when you ollie, you get massive height" "yo lean forward a bit" this always followed with "what if I just melon grab it?" followed by "or christ air, yo what if you can airwalk...ayyy watch this airwalk" lol

[@jamiemaragakis5400]

i liove your videos bro and i appreciate how far you dive into topics making it easy to grasp and relatable

[@tuss4]

Get this man more subs. Excellent video!

[@josevillegas8190]

(Been doing rocket ollies and trying to stop) I tried the positioning and it helped me get a much higher pop, that made me more confident to bend down lower (which was causing my rocket ollies) and just wow was landing my best ollies and felt great. Will continue to practice but this for sure helped! Thank you!

[@omgvague]

The board follows your feet. If its just going rocket, you aren't sliding up and leveling it out at the crease before the nose.

[@pdantch]

You can further increase your ollie by starting the motion closer to the ground. Notice that Tyshawn's even crosses his arms at the beginning of the movement, generating a greater push. So, if you simulate that as well, you'll gain more inches in your ollie... peace!

[@joeyflvkko]

Highest I can Ollie in my prime was about 4ft and the farthest completely horizontal gap I ever ollied was about 16 feet. Just recently put a new board together. I'm 29 now been skating since I was 10-27. And those 2-3 years off completely ridded my legs of the muscles I buikt over a lifetime of skating. Don't EVER stop. I'm going to get my passion back. Wish me luck

[@jehscee]

4ft is like a world record

[@joeyflvkko]

@@jehscee well then we can go with however tall 8 stacked boards is

[@Absoluteherbivore]

Right there with you bro. 28 y/o Just started last weekend after not skating for almost 10 years. Let’s go!!

[@joeyflvkko]

@@Absoluteherbivore let's get to it! It's like riding a bike. Youll know how to get your tricks back instantly. You never forget HOW to do tricks or foot placement. The problem is your body not physically being able to after so long. But once that strength comes back it's smooth sailing!!! Good luck bro hope the love is still there

[@bharrisnicholas]

Technique is important but so is your explosive power. Want to pop higher? Do exercises that help you jump higher.

[@sk8mafia214]

I guess some skaters don’t know that you are suppose to pop against the direction you’re going, otherwise, the board would rocket. Getting a good olllie just comes from preloading the board before popping and using your toes (not your leg) to create the energy to get a good pop, and just jumping high as you can.

[@gavingainey8961]

When I started trying to get more air out of my ollies I started doing popless ollies because i was preloading the board so much and just dragging it in the air with my front foot🤣🤣

[@lucasferrell7793]

I'm about to go to the park and feel so stupid trying this. Wish me luck. My ollies suck, but this makes a lot of sense. Do you think about pointing your toes down as you pop, or what?

[@sk8mafia214]

@@lucasferrell7793 yeah, your toe will point down when you pop(as you see when Tyshawn does them) you’re pretty much flicking your ankle down when you pop. Some people make the mistake of using their leg and put more strain on themselves.

[@HawkinsFamilyAdventure]

Awesome. Love the details. Helps me understand and retain the information. My tip for the ones trying to learn to ollie higher is give it your all. You cant be shy about it or half assed. Just send er, bud! Full power 🔋🔋🔋🔋

[@kolbann]

This is amazing man! I'll give it a try as soon as I have a chance. Great video

[@jaredfielding4466]

Amazing video! I learned a lot from this! I think one thing that you might be missing though is that when he places his back foot toward the corner he is now getting some spring from the bushings of the trucks! When your foot is just in the middle you get zero spring from the bushings. I don’t know this is just a guess???

[@Gazunda]

I think a big part of the sound changing is with that back foot position you actually spend less time with your weight on the board when it pops. Notice how Tyshawn's back foot is completely extended, so he's flexing his foot downward very hard for the last part of the pop before contact with the ground. Takes some strong calf muscles. I only focused on that part before finding this video and it helped me heaps.

[@jachymdolezal5103]

Pop is also about the forces you apply on the skateboard. Another tip I realized that can help is to think about is that you should start the pop motion once all of the force of your body is in the 'air' there is almost zero of your body weight on your skate and thats when you want to release the snap from your back foot. Logically before this you build up the pressure by squating and having most of body weight in the back foot.

[@giulatesta4283]

Balls of your feet, practice being light on your board/springy> straight up and down posture> arms down>pop>snag> ollie early and move at steady speed.

[@extracrispi1]

The rear foot placement works! Also-- opened the rear foot to 4-oclock instead of 3. Instant improvement in timing, board sticks to feet! One big change is I couldn't put as much weight on the rear foot (b/c it's off center), which forced me to shift weight forward, which also helps the pop push the board towards the rear. Thanks Joe!

[@samuelpearson-ts6yc]

Love it, will definitely keep this in mind next time at the park.

[@4sername]

I'm a simple man, I see "increase by six inches", I click

[@randolee-xb3fo]

damn it really helps especially ‘the pop behind’ one, it helps basically all my tricks with better touch on the board woo

[@omeuteacherdani]

Nice video. May I had a little detail here. Most people are looking forward to where they are going to pop the ollie instead of actually keeping they're eye on the back foot. I know it's tricky and you need to train your brain to do the math, but if you're sight is on your back foot it already makes your back knee align better with your ear. I hope this makes sense to you and I really cheer you to give it a try. Take care

[@Casualdisastergaming]

Putting in your back foot in the “pocket” is about balance. It’s body mechanics. Also timing and driving your front foot into the board when you slide will lift your board as high as you want it.

[@AtomicBl453]

for ollies it's variable, it just depends on your consistency with foot placement and swipe speed being proportionate to your pop.

[@leftovershri]

thanx dude! gonna try that, as soon as it stops raining

[@OdinWright]

Thinking about it, popping it behind you makes so much sense. That's how you ollie on a fingerboard.

[@zoltthebolt217]

props for the breakdown, nice video

[@GunsForEveryoneIsaac]

It's such a mental game once that barrier starts getting higher.

[@bewatermyfriend7355]

I skate again after a very long break and I remember using the same technique with the pop. Great tip.

[@TwiztedMannix87]

You can Ollie as high as the skateboard for anybody on the regular pop. Once you trust your board, you can go as high as you jump. I used to Ollie up to the tip of the board when it's vertical. I've gotten out of a small empty pool that was as high as the skateboard. I need to relearn but once you get this, you feel more control over your board. I used push down on the tail to heel side. Almost similar to this Ollie style. That tuck knee is also important. With a kick flip it looks fresh when you do it 😊

[@codylau3164]

I tried the scoop back when u pop, it was game changer, thanks local joe 🤝

[@The_real_Smitty]

just went out this actually worked i havent skated in about 1 year second day back and it helped me get back into it and landed a kickflip first try

[@NITZANG1]

I used to have really high ollies. I would put my feet pretty close to each other, and after popping I would just try to do a regular high jump and try to get my knees to touch my chest, sending your board to do a pop guarantee that your front foot would go first and your back foot after, so you don't really need to practice that front foot going forward move that is taught when learning to ollie, and because your feet are close to each other, it gives the board more room to get to a more vertical position when popping, so once your feet align with one another, the board is as high as it can be.

[@SuperYouvid]

Wow! That guy's Ollie is amazing!! 🤘

[@bflippsytrance]

The biggest factor is the flowing motion going down bending your knees moving the body towards the ground like winding up a spring before you pop. You see him do it in all of the footage shown. Getting that down and then able to rub the front side of your front foot to grab and level the board and you'll have a nice ollie. In your video parts you see you still lack the spring movement a bit. You bend the knees before the ollie without having that flowing spring movement. Don't get me wrong, you're getting nice height, but making that windup movement is using physics to give you lift.

[@kendoglarson5419]

I can ollie a picnic table and full size garbage can waist high with old school deck. Its all in the ball of the foot on the tail edge, in the center of the board, heel turned out, and back knee tucked in so you can snap the board forward when you jump. My heel is turned toward the back at least another 12-15 degrees which ollies more weight to be set toward back of board which allows more forward motion on the pop. He ollies more side ways in stance while i ollie like natas with a forward stance.

[@Scaden124]

This is awesome! Thanks man you helped us out!

[@gorryman]

this is a really informative break down

[@emussy6675]

bro gatekeeping like crazy

[@Dave0Star]

Tyshawn is one of them guys who put in unbelievable amounts of work which builds skill/ raw attributes + the stars slightly aligning for him. Thought this was going to be a whack video but it’s a fair analysis on technique I think. thanks 🙏🏼

[@ReeWebster]

Back foot. Think it’s actually putting pressure directly in the middle. Both ways, between truck and very end of the tail, and side to side. And yeh def pop with slight roll backward, like ud do so forward for nollie and fakie. But one thing I see everyone missing, after the pop the whole board raises inches vertically in the air before the front foot does anything; need to slow down and time the front foot tweak exactly when board reaches its highest point. Some sick pointers here mate good work.

[@funhaos]

PROTIP: remove your back foot's sock and apply chapstick between your toes and put the shoe back on...... right after you pop count to 3 before landing. the higher you count the longer you will stay in the air thus the higher you will go.....this will work for nollie as well just alternate your chapstick foot accordingly... i wish i had learned this sooner.

[@MrMargaretScratcher]

What's the idea with the chapstick?

[@funhaos]

@@MrMargaretScratcher the chapstick helps with your toes flexing to the shape of the tail thru pops and scoops. You can substitute Margarine or WF-40 but you’ll have to count slower (1 Mississippi, 2 Mississippi….) because it’s much sloppier than chapstick. I’ve always just stuck chapstick. Everybody thinks it’s about the shoe and the grip but nobody talks about the most important part.. the main touch points between human and board. And that is the toes themselves. Lube them toes up right 👌

[@MrMargaretScratcher]

@@funhaos i have to say, I'm skeptical!

[@funhaos]

@@MrMargaretScratcher I was skeptical as well. My buddy Charlie showed me back when we were just kids and all we had was mayo packets from the school cafeteria. We’d meet up and skate after school everyday. And with just a few squirts on his big toe and pinky toe and Charlie was popping the highest Ollies. He always left some mayo in the packet to share with us. Years later now much wiser I just use my chapstick. The viscosity is just better and you don’t need to worry about your grandma smelling your feet and getting suspicious. Just remember the 3Cs to Ollie big - Count - Chapstick - Cool Ollie Bro

[@MrMargaretScratcher]

@@funhaos Got it. Soaking my feet in a catering sized jar of Hellmans as we speak

[@battle_on]

Back foot placement is probably a torque/mechanical work thing. Small increase in length of effective lever and also length increase increases torque...aka more length leads to more force

[@PaulKentSkates]

I love this video. The ollie position makes a lot of sense. You can actually train jumping ability as well. The maximum potential doesn't change obviously and some people (like NBA guys) probably have more than most people. Jumping ability translates into higher ollies if your ollie technique is decent. I think it would be crazy to have skaters training for jumping with heavy weightlifting and plyometrics in a way that works.

[@jeffli480]

I call it pullback pop in my head to rmb to do it haha I think pulling back on your pop also makes sure the board stays straight VS if you try to pop completely straight down, if you’re not perfectly straight, the board will turn as if you scooped it slightly.

[@jeffreyzie]

Another tip is keeping your front foot STRAIGHT rather than curved towards the nose. Sort of like the way a front foot looks like like in a switch Ollie I tried that yesterday and it helped not only with higher pops but more control in my tres too

[@haroldcampos9661]

Hey Joe. I'm still a noob who's trying to get back into skating and have a lot of time on my hands to sometimes think about this stuff and consume a lot of videos lol. So excuse me if my input is redundant or off with what you're saying. I'm just tempted to comment my notes in case it can also help anybody. Since at my skill level I spend a lot of time thinking about what makes these tricks work, with my adult brain now. I love this type of content that gets the juices flowing, gears turning, using my brain whatever you wanna call it. I always say a good mechanic can look at a mechanical part (as in not electric or electronic) and know exactly what it's supposed to do. Skateboarding tricks are like a visualization of a very elusive mechanical component. When I was growing up we just got on the board and did whatever thing with no guidance. I kinda hated that. Hockey guys get so many ankle trainign vids, those princesses lol. Considering I was in middle school with a guy who was 18 and pretty much already pro. They'd disappear downtown to go to the park, and there I was on the gravel without even an ollie "maybe one day I'll be like a pro too or something flying out of ramps and throwing myself down the stairs" First, always get comfortable clothes. When I was last skating I liked doing monster heelflips and wore skinnys. Most of my denim was like 25% spandex. Before that, my grandma used to take in girls' bellbottoms when skinnys weren't cool again yet in like 2005. I also wore big pants sometimes and before I got thinner, I was a 32 but my favorite was a size 34 pair of baggy bullheads with a belt. I got all my flip tricks in those pants. The point is you need mobility to stretch out your knees. If your knees aren't coming up, your board ain't going very high off the ground at all. If you can;t sit down and do butterflies with those pants, good luck throwing your leg out for a steezy kickflip. If you must wear pants, get ones that work. Big heavy denim is good if it's baggy but as long as you can see your feet. Dickies don't stick to your legs. They're really good. I avoided skating my old work pair til recently. Also some tighter pants straight up limit your kneecap from moving correctly. The foot on the tail. Like you said the weight goes to the heelside, where also he can better push down with the ball on the inside edge of his foot. But also think about how he is twisting his body and using the muscle on his foot transferring it (the force of the pop) to one spot on the board. He offsets this by leaning forward towards his front foot toeside just before the pop, when he has to come back up with his body a second before he pops the tail. It also allows him probably to leap forward rather then side to side mentally. It's like he's setting up for a backside and ends up doing a frontside. Also you said he's getting more tension by using a smaller surface area to pop. It might just provide him a more stable and predictable pop. The front foot can also create a bit more tension front to back. But also whythetrick talks about sometimes using a softer pop. To find the nuances of a skater's technique is difficult, but I think it's that he has found just the right amount of pop and the right amount of balancing his body and creating tension and offsets front to back, down to up, and heel to toe. In another word; the three axes. Tension before a jump can be important not for the board but for your body seeing the trick through. We sometimes look like ballerinas despite our boards doing some sick tricks. And that's okay. We're just coming along for the ride lol Also the pop behind the hip is interesting. I saw a video with &y &erson on brail and he explains the ollie is like a mushroom shape. First the board goes back then it arches around, like a mushroom cap. If you look at any non flatground ollie at speed, this is not apparent at all. But if you look at one on flatground, and you do it with that mentality, you can actually make it work and get a pretty solid ollie. This might be useful if you wanna ninja your ollies too. Also trying to get back into skating and I have an urge to skate switch for the first time, so I can have more fun doing 180 tricks and such. I like doing 360 reverts in my room snowboard style. Or stalls on flatground and pivot out. What I've noticed is you need equal control of your legs and your knees. When your knees get injured, they wobble. Sometimes the back knee needs to come over the front one. I was watching these guys powerslide downhill and one guy tucked in his front knee and stuck out his back one and he was sliding laying down and going backwards. It changed everything. I'm obsessed with the knees especially since hearing p.rod explain how to varial heel and saying "lead the flick mostly with the knee out, not your ankle" lol. Anyway if I remember my flatground days in front of my house, raising your back knee is more important to catching a trick than the front knee. If you think how you start practicing a flick on a trick, you always start by leaving your back foot on the ground. But once you're getting comfortable you start sucking in both legs and before you know it, you got that monster heel. Incorporating the weight of your body and the momentum of popping hard enough to suck up your back leg, changes the outcome of the trick versus a fake try with your back foot landing on the ground. Also seeing chris cole tre flip the big stairs in 'new blood' impacted me. I kept thinking about this longboard like stance. Back knee painfully bent in but not tucked. If you tuck in the back knee and leave the front one up while crouching, it makes more sense ergonomically than twisting it. And yet a lot of our stances rely on a twistd up leg. Like the front foot while pushing on a skater who's experienced can balance there forever but it's not always muscle holding it there. And I think it just has to do with how he set up for the trick, is how he landed it. So an ollie forces you to be square with the board more than some other tricks. If you have to set it up to offset your front to back weight, it would make sense he has to offset the square-ness with a stance that places him at the heel side of the board with his feet and most of his weight there too. They're two different tricks, and it seems like with an ollie you always want to keep the board close and it's a sort of balancing act. Technically you can ollie as high as a ninja ollie maybe but it probably won't stick to your feet as well. In fact, I'd wager it won't. It will feel sloppy. Once it levels out you can't force it to go higher without more pop or tweaking it. An ollie is a reaction to an action. For every action there has to be an equal reaction or whatever. Isn't that entropy? Also thanks for showing your limitations. I enjoy your skating anyway. It's crazy but sometimes I don't look at my feet to ollie. (I don't look at a lot of thigns I'm doing sometimes, I have to try to make a conscious effort. Sometimes playing guitar and so much is going on I can't bear to look down or if I'm listening to music having my eyes open can be too much sitmulus). That one gay skater I can't remember his name now, cocks his head in a weird way and people say he looks like a killer but he has one eye on the board and one on the obstacle with one motion. But when you set up a stance it's always best to look down and find the spot your feet feel best in. (Sometimes you can do a little hop to place them where you want them that much faster. I think you can see this in your video in the slow-mo section of ishod's heelflip. I would poke my heel out for that though.) Since I started doing this I feel really good about my feet placement. This also allows you to experiment with different ways to do a trick. Something I'm also a fan of. White leather shoes help with consistently flicking a new trick when you have it where you want it, because it always marks the board. You get into a trancelike state where you have 5 new marks and you know which one was the latest. But this is ollie'ing so whatever. Ollie'ing always works but I find it's easy for me to lose balance. Sometimes just riding up to the trick. So maybe also being square is not always universally best? I don't really know. (Although if you put your front foot further or closer to the bolts you might technically be changing your stance? Like from square to forward. So having a back foot position ready can also be helpful for tricks where it's not so clear.) But your results, and process proves that your analysis isn't just conjecture. Good job! Also, the comments about thinking you were selling boner pills is priceless. Stay away from those, they'll make yr whole body 'stiffen' up.

[@east.bound_]

I read this whole thing and I’m gonna try the things you mentioned, I’ll let you know how it goes

[@haroldcampos9661]

Thanks! That's just where I'm at with all the advice I've been given. I found this trick tip actually helpful. Another one (for Ollies) is to place your front foot right below the bolts like almost on top of the first two. I've found the best results with that stance. Have fun with it and good luck with your skating. Share your findings.@@east.bound_

[@east.bound_]

@@haroldcampos9661 I’ve been skating all day and the advice helped so much and my Ollie’s felt way more consistent keeping all the tips in mind

[@Dontbustthecrust]

Entropy is order to disorder. It's why you get old and fall apart.

[@haroldcampos9661]

Once you have a pretty solid ollie, next you can start ollie'ing onto a manual pad. (This part you can have a lot of fun with and be sure to get manuals down too on longer street manual pads like a walkway, because they factor into some grinds later like 5-0 and nosegrinds.) Or you can ollie over some stacked boards. Or do some gaps. Which are less intimidating than stairs for me personally. One thing I've been doing to improve is pushing around switch and riding down a hill switch. You can start from the middle and increase your starting position til you can start at the top. I got pretty hurt because my hill has a speed bump at the end and it pushed my front foot off the board vertically everytime, you can see it on the videos, and my back one fell off on the last try and I dragged it so the outside of my ankle and inside of my knee hurt. I went for it after having landed it knowing I wasn't mentally feeling it anymore and didn't have the same accuity knowing it was also a pretty sketchy spot. I gotta rest my knee for a few weeks lol. But I'm not sure sometimes if I should put my foot on the tail, probably should. Check out some skaters that do hill bombs like omar salazar and the guys who do downhill runs (amazing scenery and a way different set of skills). If I could give my younger self advice, it's to have fun with it. And don't wait for anyone to invite you anywhere/ Make a list of spots and go skate themm. If your grandma is available to film you, ask her. It doesn't matter as long as you go out and do it. Be like "I'm gonna ollie that 5 step and practice board control in your room, and when the day comes, show up with a camera, ignore the whole world, get in your zone and just do it. I'm 31 and I've been using those palm guard, knee and elbow pads, whatever it takes to get the trick done, and get the fear to pack up and leave me alone. Guys in videos have no fear because they have been doing big stuff for a long time. The trick is difficult, but the difficult part is getting to the skill level to be able to do it, if that makes any sense. A guy who can lift do curls of 50lbs started doing curls of 10lbs. But the trick is to have fun for as long as possible and avoid injuring yourself too badly, because then you can't skate.@@east.bound_

[@ONE11WN]

So helpful, ty for research practice and sharing ♥

[@fr0nk-skates]

just a quick note: when you were doing the highest setting and saying you were using all techniques, you actually started putting your back foot back in the middle of the tail. nothing wrong with that, we're all a little different with how we ollie but just saying you managed to still get that height with your foot in the middle of the tail, the real secret is lifting the knees as high as you can and popping backwards. for me i always popped backwards but would sometimes mess up the timing and would miss the pop because i threw it too far backwards

[@sonicfan653]

About 7 years ago, my basic Ollie height was over 1 foot and 6 inches everyday, when I use to train my ollie technique.

[@infinitenothingness]

My big 3 to increase ollie height: 1. New board with lots of stiffness equals more pop; 2. New grip and New shoes helps the board stick like glue; and 3. The crouch - gotta' get real low and bring your knees way up after the pop to get maximum height for the Ollie. 🛹

[@raytisan]

Thank you for sharing man this is awesome u rock

[@TheTyke]

Honestly, I don't think athleticism or physicality comes into this very much at all beyond: The higher you can jump, the higher you'll pop, the less you weigh, the higher you'll pop and the more flexible you are, the higher you'll pop. That isn't exactly what most people would say is traditionally athletic, even though in some ways it is. You can learn to jump higher, train yourself to do so. It isn't really innate or ingrained. Same with weighing less and working on flexibility. Height also isn't really that much of a factor, as longer legs are also more likely to be harder to tuck. Also you're likely to weigh more the taller you are. The truth is, as you said, almost entirely about technique. I'll also point out that this way of popping and doing ollies has been around a while. Infact I may be misremembering, but back in the day (early 2000s) you were generally shown that the way you position your back foot for a proper pop is the way Tyshawn does it. Maybe things changed later on. But honestly the way you were popping before is what I would've called improper positioning and technique. Skateboarding comes down to the physics of leverage. The way you position your feet is going to affect how you interact with the board. Think of it like the wheels are the fulcrum and the tail and nose are levers. Similarly if you pop down with a more drastic, sharper action you'll get increased pop aswell. The way Tyshawn is almost pulling the board back is new to me personally with ollies, but makes perfect sense rationally and the way he's positioning his foot under his hip, off centred on the tail, then striking up the nose of the board with his front foot which is invertedly off centre to counteract the off centred distribution of weight seems like a great technique. Positioning of hips, your stance and it's relation to your hips is going to affect your weight distribution and so on massively. I wouldn't be surprised if like you say, others have been pulling the board back for ollies; traditionally too, as it seems to work.

[@FH_83_02]

Great video. I appreciate the details

[@randolee-xb3fo]

Sounds good and I will try to implement tonight to see if it works for me. much appreciate

[@Chris-ym2mm]

Soon dis guy gonna have the consistency of nyjah, the style of Jamie foy, and the creativity of t funk Keep it up bro!

[@joshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh]

5 7.75 decks pro style was the most i ever got when i used to skate every day. 7 stacked intertwined. I could get onto most picknick tables without snagging my rear truck. Keep in mind though, that i could run and jump over a 6 ft wall without touching it at the time. So ollying 3-4 ft was definitely possible. Im 5'10 and was a very lean 135 lbs at the time as well.

[@Ponzskeme]

To bring that back leg up with more efficiency try strengthening and strengthening your hip flexors. That should allow for easier mobility. Try it out.

[@claytonharvey8287]

What are the rest of the numbers???

[@mrtambourineman6107]

You jumped that car like a pro bud no cap

[@njgrind]

It’s not that his foot is on the heel side of the board, but that he’s on his toes in the center tip of the tail. If his whole foot was on the board, his toes would be popping off the toe side edge of the board.

[@JonBurdGaming]

This dude is dope and another guy you should study is Reese Forbes. The dude practically revolutionized ollieing over high objects.

[@swr410]

Popping back is so vital for me. Lately my best ollies come from when I think about popping back, then pushing the top of my front foot into the nose, to really let it swing up behind.

[@observantmonkey4055]

This is why I like nick trapasso's kickflips

[@Skylerskates]

I always complain that I have terrible pop and just assumed I have old, tired legs. Well, I guess I'll have to tweak my form. Solid vid!

[@Dontbustthecrust]

Do you exercise regularly? Besides skating?

[@SkylerThomas]

@@Dontbustthecrust Yeah, I hit the gym a few times a week. Between skating and the gym my legs are always exhausted, so I should honestly rest them more. I rarely feel fresh at the park.

[@Dontbustthecrust]

@@SkylerThomas ah dang. Yeah rest days are important too brotha.

[@risharddaniels1762]

@@SkylerThomasgotta get that rest in to see progress, homie, take a week off from skating and exercising and come back and you’ll see the difference

[@Juliano_DJOL]

Manz got hopz and that good scoop! I always have to ollie over something or as I got older onto something! If I try to ollie without at least thinking about ollieing over something.

[@anhiirr]

dang the shout out to bledsoe....i was just googling where he was playing bc i was like damn the league misses guys like that. IMO this same technique applies to kickflips if you delay/drag your foot pre flick it can time well with this new pop/big pop youve harnessed. The quicker you flick though....the quicker you catch or initiate double flips. So if youre trying to really slow the flip down and steeze it out you have to drag/delay your flick a little almost like a hybrid of this ollie+a kickflip follow through. Either way it completely changes how you do fs/bs 180s and half cabs. I would definitely go all into some of this technique into if you can have it affect your fliptricks/combinations. Depending on the feature/angle youre popping off of its pretty nuts. But you really have to have an aspect of board response when youre really trying to channel pop/feel the ground out for a good HOP as if you were doing it w.o a board. Like i get it thunders are light but when i see thiago getting on to some of the ledges hes hitting with indy mids...as heavy as they are....doing switch bs tails and nose slids/grinds etc...That to me takes it to a whole new level that goes beyond comprehension.

[@n8dawggofficial428]

"Knee touch your ear" Im out😂

[@markwarne5049]

Pushing with the front foot also strengthens the calves which increases the height of ollies.

[@PieGuy-l3o]

you could have totally gave us all the tips just saw you wanted people to support your patreon

[@the.real.ipatch]

well done dude. 🏆

[@DBRWN]

Salute this video is actually soild information

[@yecreeper]

the reason why putting the back foot on the heel side creates so much pop is because when you pop, the power comes from your big toe, and when the big toe is in the very middle, you can get a ton more power out of it

[@scooby45247]

the back foot should have the least amount on as possible to increase the force per sq. in. for greater pop.. and yes, lift your knees for maximum height.. practice by simply jumping onto things without a board to work on bringing them up.. like a picnic table- 1st the bench, then the table

[@ikarljoseph]

Good video- nicely done.

[@zoubabprophete5179]

Very very nice video. Thank you for that sir

[@lt_alenko]

you left the remaining seven tips in the video big frawg