Islam copies Judaism, but claims it's theirs, Mel says!

Muslims really did copy the Jews in 7 areas!
Muslims have always claimed that the 'Masjid al-Haram', their most holy
site, also known as the Kaaba, coupled with its traditions, was always
situated in Mecca, since at least the time of Abraham (i.e. 1900 BC).
But is that correct? Have all the traditions surrounding the Hajj to
Mecca been around for thousands of years? We think not.
Earlier, Paul from London introduced what he calls the 'Jerusalem
Thesis', which suggests that Islam's holiest site is nothing more than a
poor copy of what was much earlier, and much further north, in the city
of Jerusalem.
Mel, from Sneaker's Corner continues Paul's thesis by introducing yet
another 7 well-known areas which are practiced by Muslims today during
their pilgrimage, yet are nothing more than borrowed practices from the
Bible, and from the Jews themselves, and are all situated in Jerusalem.
They include:
1) The mountains in Jerusalem known as Moriah (the Temple Mount), and
Scopus (directly across from it with the Kidron valley running in
between). These have now become the mountains Marwa and Safa in Mecca,
but are nothing more than 15-20 foot high boulders.
2) The cubed 'holy of holies' in the Temple, has now been replaced in
Mecca as the 'cuboid' Kaaba.
3) The 3 Hagg pilgrimage festivals which took place in Jerusalem are now
the Hajj pilgrimage which are all centered in Mecca.
4) The temple in Jerusalem, referred to as the 'house of god', has now
been replaced by the 'Masjid al Haram', which is the Kaaba.
5) The rest-stop named Bakka used by pilgrims on their way to Jerusalem
is still Bakka in Surah 3:96, but is confused by Muslims today for
Mecca.
6) The shaved heads, and the sackcloth, both practiced by the Jewish
pilgrims in Jerusalem, now include the Islamic white cloth worn by all
Muslims devotees, and known as 'Ihram' in Arabic.
7) The circumambulation 7 times around the temple, walking in a
anticlockwise directions, are done exactly the same today by Muslims as
they circumambulate around the Kaaba.
Thus, nothing is historically correct or even new in Islam, a religion
which plagiarizes and mimics what the Jews did hundreds and thousands of
years earlier, but still claims it had it first!
© Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, 2021
(54,020) Music: Epic Trailer, by Rafael Krux, from filmmusic-io

[@Maria-du9mf]

It gives 'cultural appropriation' a whole new meaning! Great revelations Mel! Wonderful work Dr.Jay!

[@UWillSee83]

Thank you for your work, brother! I’m in Sweden, a lot of muslims here now-a-days. Your work is a great resource.

[@PixelogistFacts]

not just Sweden. The entire Europe.

[@samulelawless2845]

@@PixelogistFacts Here in North America, as well. o/

[@alanpebenito7055]

Keep on exposing the TRUTH

[@BreakFix]

Bwhahahaha 😂😂😂 If only you knew what you had stated ❗️ A truthful person would have said “keep on telling the truth” OR “keep on exposing the lies”....BUT NOT YOU‼️ No, you said “keep on exposing the TRUTH”....Meaning that you KNOW that what is being shown on this channel is pure lies and you know the lies are being exposed because the arguments are laughable. You want to support jay and the only way to do that is by lying yourself, so subconsciously you wrote “keep on exposing the TRUTH” meaning you know Islam to be true and the arguments and claims put forward by this channel are lies.

[@henktmmr]

@@BreakFix if they are lies, how come that you are unable to debunk them?

[@Joorawon.M.Yousuf]

@@BreakFix brother could be he is a Muslim❗

[@BreakFix]

@@henktmmr No need to debunk nonsense

[@henkh63]

@@BreakFix no need...? Or no arguments?

[@ngashmir]

Wow! This is really great work. Mel is a very good communicator. Jay does very well as a moderator and is able to critique materials on Islam since he has in depth knowledge of it. This is God's work you are doing.

[@Speakers154]

Thank you, Robert! Very kind of you to say, my friend.

[@ProfYaffle]

I think you are getting better at taking their time to explain things together. Thanks @Sneaker's Corner

[@roshansuren1308]

From India

[@alanpebenito7055]

Islam takes what is already there and introduce their own narratives.

[@BreakFix]

You mean like the trinity?

[@daduzadude1547]

@@BreakFix a very skew version, and a few extras

[@hdl135605]

@@BreakFix Except the Trinity. In most of everything else certainly yes.

[@sohotechnologysolutions8583]

ALL religions took what was already there & added their own narratives!

[@interqward1]

@@BreakFix Yep, exactly like the Trinity, because the Quran is riddled with things that happen THREE TIMES, and things that Muhammad and/or Allah say THREE TIMES, and things that are said to 'happen,' THREE TIMES.

[@briangreen7797]

Not forgetting, that's where the olive trees grow, around the Mediterranean.

[@briangreen7797]

@Zainab Rokadia Hello Zainab, I believe that Olive trees are mentioned in Koran in the descriptive text which describes the countryside where Mohammed lived and the people he met up with; I may be completely wrong and I stand to be corrected, but I understand the place where Mohammed lived was Mecca. Olive trees don't naturally grow and have never grown anywhere near Mecca, certainly in Mohammed's life time. Olive trees grow around the Mediterranean hundreds of miles north of Mecca, which suggests that the 'Mecca' written in the Koran is much further north, and the people he met up with lived much further north, probably in the same area as the olive trees. Zainab, more important than olive trees, I believe that we are living in 'end times' now. I believe that the first seal, written in Revelation Chapter 6 verses 1 & 2 has been opened. Revelation was written in Greek. Look up the Greek for Crown and bow, white is significant. Also, later on [Revelation Chapter 18 verse 23] it says ".... For your merchants were great men of the earth, and all nations were deceived by your sorcery"; similarly look up the Greek for sorcery. You need to follow Jesus, who is GOD, The Son. GOD said three times in the Book of Isaiah 41:4, 44:6 48:12 that He is the First and the Last. Read Revelation Chapter 1 verse 17. Question: When did God die? Answer: Revelation Chapter 1 verse 18. Advice: Come home to Jesus, find an alive active church, you need to give your life to Jesus, He has paid the price for all your sin if you believe in Him. You need to get baptised into the name of God, The Father, God The Son, God The Holy Spirit, who is The One and Only Triune GOD; and cut all relationships with other gods. Worship Almighty GOD and Him alone. Must go now. GOD Bless, see you in Heaven, Hopefully. Brian

[@henktmmr]

Thank you once again for revealing truth! May God bless you and protect you!

[@matthewschroeder2465]

Hi Jay and Mel! I just want you to know how much I enjoy your videos and the work that you do to establish the early history of Islam. I just wanted to comment here to point out a couple of things that you might not be aware of. First, counterclockwise circumambulation isn't just Jewish. As an Eastern Christian clergyman, I can tell you most assuredly that all Eastern Christian clergy circumambulate their altars (holy tables) in the course of their services, and it is always done counterclockwise. This is the case because the procession must be performed in such a way so that we turn to the right. As I am sure you are aware, in Biblical language, to turn to the left is to deliberately choose evil. Further, I feel that I should point out that the holy table in an Eastern Christian church, whether Chalcedonian, Monophysite or Nestorian, is shaped like a cube. Today, because of the prevalence of the metric system, altars in the Byzantine Rite are usually a meter cubed. Altars among the Syrians and Copts are similarly cubed, and the processions are invariably performed in the same direction. All of that being said, I wanted to express some misgivings that I have about the Jerusalem thesis. First of all, I would like to point out what you are, undoubtedly, already aware of, namely Dan Gibson's very compelling argument in Quranic Geography connecting Petra and its environs with Ad (Biblical Uz) and Thamud (the people after Ad, in other words Edom). Based on that argument, it seems far more likely that Petra was an established place of Nabataean/Arab cultus (an anti-Jerusalem so to speak). Religion, it seems to me, is intrinsically conservative. Innovation, much less revolution, are rare. There must have been an established pilgrimage destination for the Arabs, and, because of Byzantine religious policy, it could not have been Jerusalem. Perhaps the genesis of Abrahamic cultus at Petra arose out of denial of access on the part of the Byzantines to anyone who did not profess a modicum of doctrinal orthodoxy. It is, after all, unthinkable that the authorities of the Byzantine Empire would have permitted a bizarre East Syrian, Ebionite Arab sect to use the Holy City for some sort of proto-Hajj. The building project on Mt. Moriah in the time of Abdel Malik seems like, perhaps, an abortive attempt to co-opt the completely Christian (and largely Chalcedonian, at that period) sanctuary to the purposes of the Petran- Arabian cultus, once Arab Ebionites had attained the ascendancy in the Umayyad regime. The Marwanids are apparently from Merv in Iran (thus the name), which is precisely where one would look for Ebionites to have survived as late as the 7th century. Thus, it was not the case of replacing one pilgrimage site with another, but simply adding a new one (in addition to Masjid al-Haram, we now have Haram al-Sharif). Christians (which is what these people apparently were) are used to the idea of having multiple pilgrimage sites. Nor is it particularly surprising that the same rituals are associated with more than one site. Apparently, we know from the numismatic evidence that Mu'awiya had devotions to the Great-Martyr Saint Sergius (Risafe) and Saint John the Baptist (Damascus). It is likely that the martyria of these saints were common pilgrimage destinations for him and his family. In any case, thank you for all the food for thought.

[@Repent4JesusChrist]

Wonderful gentlemen 🙏✝️🕊

[@rolandoabalajon7862]

It is true because almost 700 years after Christianity the Islam comes. I would rather choose the first ones the original than the copyright ones.

[@cmoma942]

Only because Islam since inception knows Christianity as the TRUTH, the REAL threat to its existence.

[@BreakFix]

The god that sent the prophet Jesus with the injeel is the same god that sent the prophet Mohammed (pbuh) with the Quran. So if there is information that appears in both books then that is to be expected. It’s not copying. It’s that message being repeated. You are opposing the god of Jesus whilst claiming to be following Jesus. Don’t you see that you are misguided and on the wrong path. You won’t be able to see your path unless you give up your arrogance and accept that Muslims might actually be right Salam

[@daduzadude1547]

@@BreakFix Allah is not the God we believe in. Allah was a father of no one, but Jesus called Him Father. Allah cannot come into his creation, our God can and did. Allah does not love sinners, our God loved us so much he took on human form, died and was resurrected for us.

[@cmoma942]

@@BreakFix Nahhh.. God sent Jesus to all human kind. MoeMad is the ‘false prophet’!

[@sohotechnologysolutions8583]

Christianity borrows from the Hebrew religion, & many other pagan religions that existed at the time, so it is hardly original!

[@jameslevara8027]

Mostlikely... they copied many things from Judaism...

[@dmt8091]

They copied from the time of Adam in fact. The true religion from the beginning. So nothing unusual.

[@Blissblizzard]

@@dmt8091 RETROFITTING AT IT'S FINEST.

[@Blissblizzard]

@Iyas kelu Quite a devastating argument you put together there l don't think they'll come back from that. Those bright orange beards (henna) that you see on old malaunas tho 🤡

[@bijujoze4043]

Even the dome architecture design on top of mosque is copy from Byzantine architecture and Coptic church architecture

[@mardukh5136]

you should always put into consideration that many civilizations existed in that part of the world long before your byzantine that will make your byzantine and the church architecture another copy from other civilizations, if we add your speculation to your way of thinking the only result that we will end up with is ignorance and stupidity combining in on person which is you.

[@Tzimiskes3506]

@@mardukh5136 dumhed domes were there or even on use in ancient civilizations and monuments until the byzantines made it

[@Tzimiskes3506]

@@mardukh5136 clearly not well versed in history

[@preapple]

The Church of the Seat of Mary (Latin: Ecclesia Kathismatis, from Greek: κάθισμα, romanized: kathisma, lit. 'seat'), Church of the Kathisma or Old Kathisma being the name mostly used in literature, was a 5th-century Byzantine church in the Holy Land, located between Jerusalem and Bethlehem. It was built on the alleged resting place of Mary on the road to Bethlehem mentioned in the Proto-Gospel of James. The church was built when Marian devotion first rose to great importance, following the First Council of Ephesus of 431. It is one of the earliest churches known to have been dedicated to the Theotokos (Mary the God-bearer) in the entire Byzantine Empire.

[@mardukh5136]

@@preapple Domes were built in ancient Mesopotamia, and they have been found in Persian, Hellenistic, greek Roman, and Chinese architecture in the ancient world, as well as among a number of indigenous building traditions throughout the world.

[@scottthong9274]

I highly commend your feature of summarizing the key points in the video description, thanks!

[@guzwa2334]

They stole from us then said that we're corrupted. 🤔 Pietermartizburg KZN South Africa 🌍

[@Maria-du9mf]

Brilliant Mel! Awesome Dr. Jay. Keep it up! We're lovin it!!!

[@NomenNescio99]

Jay, you are only allowed to unbutton three buttons on your shirt when you have the Mediterranean within eyesight...

[@ianmcdonald8648]

the shaving of hair from all over the body, was also to be done after being pronounced clean from leprosy by the Jewish priest ON THE SEVENTH DAY. Leviticus 14:9, after which animal sacrifices has to be made on the eighth day, for guilt, sin, burnt and food offerings.

[@royssche]

"Islam copies Judaism" Muslims: Well.... we also worship their God

[@PixelogistFacts]

@Somerset Row The Jews believe the same.

[@PixelogistFacts]

@Somerset Row idolise human as equal basis with God. Sound like Christian.

[@PixelogistFacts]

@Somerset Row Ignorant huh? So you think Muslim worship Muhamad? Hahaha

[@abimukeshs8229]

@@PixelogistFacts huh, u guys r worshipping allahu and his messenger Mohmed along with that black stone right ❗❗

[@PixelogistFacts]

@@abimukeshs8229 Wow that the dumbest stuff Ive ever read on internet. Even David Wood never said Muslim worship Muhammad. He may say he is false prophet,but he far from saying Muslim worship Muhammad.

[@Serendipity818]

Great video👍👍 you both are so interesting , I noticed the same holidays around 2014 I am a Christian married to a Jew and we have many Muslim friends❤

[@fay1298]

Thank you Mel and Dr Jay I can’t remember where I read it or heard it but Abdul Malik built the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem in preparation for the return of the Messiah. Mel, do you know more about this?

[@Speakers154]

That would fit perfectly with everything.

[@Cruz8R]

According to the SIN, the Messiah will decent on the mosque in Damascus.

[@eva4adam451]

@David Zarqui zul Qarnain? Dul Qarnain is Alexander Magnus.

[@eva4adam451]

@David Zarqui Read: Alexander Arabicus Professor F Aerts. Investigation of 11th century. And 14the Turkije, Syrian Egyptisch poems.

[@lionelroland2250]

Jesus was never annoited bye a Levite priest

[@Baruch-Hashem]

Orthodox Jew here, with many Christian and Muslim friends. Your video's are very interesting. Please biuld bridges and not walls. I am glad you are always respectful, Continue to seek peace.

[@Speakers154]

Thank you. I agree.

[@franklinpanakkal97]

We require our jewish brothers to be part of this research. Iam a Christian. Respect to my Jewish brothers.

[@oneway1119]

We love our Jewish brothers. We pray for Jews and Israel! Christian here! Yeshuah is everlasting Lion of Judah and He is coming back soon to establish HIS Kingdom as it is in heaven! Do not doubt!

[@Paul-zf8ob]

How? Opposite opinions. How well do Jews get along with Muslims? Bridges? It would be great if we could.

[@francisdsouza2002]

Hey!!! Mel Today You Nailed Islam on Camel 🐫 Hide!!!🎉🎉🎉 May Lord Jesus Christ Bless You and Jay Smith Abundantly with Good Health Wealth and Spirituality Amen 🙏🙏🙏

[@wiseowl2979]

The discussion among ex Muslims in our country, India, has led to this....Quran was not written by any prophet, but by a violent warlord. The word this ex Muslim used was "terrorist". Having said that, I am fascinated by your research and your findings. More power to you and your courageous tribe.

[@danthomas9992]

I know this is just a coincidence, but in the readings from the standard lectionary, today's Old Testament reading is Abraham and his sacrifice of Isaac.

[@Speakers154]

Wow, that's quite a coincidence. Providence.

[@universalflamethrower6342]

Copying other religions and claiming its yours Is lame

[@universalflamethrower6342]

@Jomy Mathew Copy Pasting IS LAME

[@universalflamethrower6342]

@Jomy Mathew LAME

[@BreakFix]

You mean how you christians stole the tradition of Christmas trees and Christmas from pagan worshipers and attributed it to Christianity?! Hmm your logic is next level BS

[@universalflamethrower6342]

@@BreakFix seriously, read a history book, stop copy pasting that Is Lame, but I am sure you understood that by now

[@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus]

@@BreakFix False. The Christmas comes from St. Boniface chopping down the germanic tree God to build a Church. We cut down a tree at christmas as a celebration of Christ our King defeating paganism.

[@jaimehancock7048]

In reference to the issue of baldness, or shaving your head before going to the Temple, that was part of the Nazirite vow mentioned in the book of Numbers (6.1-21). It is probably also the reason Paul shaved his head before leaving Cenchrea in Acts 18, and is the reason he shaved his head in Acts 21. The Nazirite vote was to be completed by making an offering at the Temple in Jerusalem. As part of the Nazirite vow, you had to give up alcohol, or any fermented food, for the duration of your vow. Abstinence from alcohol in Islam could have come from this, as well.

[@smacvie]

God bless you Dr J and Mel... I pray muslim come to accept Jesus Christ as Lord and savior... Islam is a confuse belief...

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

Mel and Dr. Jay this is amazing stuff! THANK YOU! God bless you both!

[@yisrael8658]

Good luck and RIH

[@margaretgreenwood4243]

This is fascinating as I’ve often thought that Judaism and Islamic cultures had so many similarities which made me wonder if these very similarities were a cause of the animosities

[@mhasson33]

The cause is an inferiority complex built into Islam bc inside it’s a phony so they must always show themselves to be superior to the Jews. This is root cause of the israel Palestine conflict

[@alexandrakaraboukoukis931]

This world Hah Gone Mad😢 Erdegon should Be Held Accountable for all He is Doing to Cypress and 🇬🇷 😢

[@dayosundayoyebo9224]

Shaving the head is Judaism culture. Paul shaved his head when he returned to Jerusalem to worship in the temple

[@BobJones-dq9mx]

Egyptians shaved their heads long before the Hebrews.

[@nikkkisumray2972]

In what context? As a West African, where do you get your information? If it was Paul after his so- called conversion, from Saul, why would he do that?

[@tbishop4961]

Only reason to shave the head (whole body) is for ritual cleanse after recovery from skin disease Leviticus

[@ASHORSHEMAYA]

@@BobJones-dq9mx The Sumerians flew before the Egyptians, and from that land and from that culture Abraham came out later

[@Blissblizzard]

@@tbishop4961 An Arab pagan reason would be not to impede the flow of baraka and for the same reason no metal clasps buttons ties, (There is a lot of occult lore around iron and spirits) Its like the waiting room of a Radiology department at Haj. No Metal! Actually many pagan systems use unbleached unsewn garments. The romans wore togas at sacraficial rites.

[@SpiritHorse232]

The HIndus also do 7 times during the wedding rituals

[@SimpleMinded221]

This is a judeo Christian channel. There's no need for pagan hindu stuff.

[@radenadiapati2062]

Could it have something to do with the 10 lost tribes from Israel?

[@jimmypalathingal7109]

There must be some association. After all the Aryans of India seemed to come from the middle East.

[@AirborneTrojan]

A Jewish bride circles her groom 7 times to indicate that her orbit has changed. Husband and wife are to cleave to each other. I’ll say this: Hindus “tie a knot” in a scarf their ceremony. I don’t any other religion that actually ties a knot

[@rommy007]

@@SimpleMinded221 not very welcoming, ain't you?

[@aemiliadelroba4022]

There are many problems with Quranic places , such as Bekka ≠ Mecca , and historical persons as well , someone got confused 😕.

[@comentedonakeyboard]

And this is why Copyright was introduced.

[@lavinialeme9992]

Wow, good work.

[@jamesmcivor3319]

The bible warns of a Counterfeit religion-1 John 4:1-3 -God-Allah Jesus-Mohamed -Bible Quran and on and on and on we go.

[@antonygathecha2145]

Mel is doing a great job.

[@Speakers154]

Thanks Anthony!

[@gilaschannel1855]

Nazirites shaved their heads in the Outer Temple in Jerusalem when they came to make three sacrifices as they ended their time of abstinence from grapes and grape products and had let their hair grow. (See Numbers 6 v 1-21). When Jewish women get married, they circle around their bridegroom seven times anticlockwise, in commemoration of Joshua and Jericho (see www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/586014/jewish/A-Mans-Deepest-Secret.htm). It is clear, as an orthodox Jew myself, that many ideas that made their way into Islam came from Judaism. Eg not eating pork, a special form of animal slaughter akin to but not exactly the same as Jewish shechitah, 5 prayers a day - there are 5 prayers for Jews on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement when Jews normally wear white as well, as opposed to 3 prayers on normal days and 4 on Shabbat and Jewish holidays. Seems that Islam was kind of an amalgamation of various concepts - usually in an altered or variant form from Judaism, ideas from monophysite and post-Roman Christianity including the nascent Quranic texts, concepts of holiness from the site of the Jewish Temples (why the Dome of the Rock was plonked on top of the Holy of Holies), the Nabatean previously pagan city of Petra, all mixed together in one new Islamic pot under the Abbasids to retain power, create a new cohesive belief system in the recently conquered huge Arab empire and to get taxes to keep it going. (By the way the word chesed - kindness - is pronounced with a kh sound as in loch.)

[@Speakers154]

Thank you! Great info.

[@khany6345]

Here is question for Jay and team. What is the story of Gog and Magog in Old Testament, New Testament and Quran? May be you and your experts can talk as how Quran stolen this story from old and New Testaments.

[@garrett6076]

Another possible Hebrew origin of the word "Kabba": I noticed this when I was reading the weekly Parshah, Balak, last week. In Numbers 25:8 "And he went after the man of Israel into the tent, and thrust both of them through, the man of Israel and the woman through her belly". The Hebrew word for "the tent" here is "ha- Qubah" - "הקבה" - an odd word to use for tent, as the usual would be "ohel" or "mishkan". In the immediate surrounding passages, mishkan is the word repeatedly used for a person's tent. Mishkan and ohel also refer to the Tabernacle, the "tent-of-meeting" or "holy tabernacle", so presumably the word "qubah" or "qabbah" could also refer to the holy tabernacle. The reason I think this unusual word is used in this verse was to make a pun with the word for "her belly" in the latter part of the verse, "qabatah", which is the same root, "qabah" (the "tah" part of "qaba-tah" makes it into the female possessive" i.e. "her") Unkelos's translation of the word "qabah" is "qubatha", same root, but actually the hebrew is closer to the Arabic "qaba" than is the Aramaic. For "her belly" he uses a totally different word and loses the pun, but the meaning is clearer. Now that I think about it, "qabah" is a strange word to use for belly as well. I'm not a Hebrew expert, just a casual Jewish reader, so I'm just pointing out what I have personally noticed. If the word "qaba" is used elsewhere in the Bible for tent, I haven't noticed it. But the fact that it is there even once shows it could possibly be the root of the Arabic word. Whether the association with an an act of fornication with an idol-worshipping foreigner from Midian is significant I will let others decide.

[@Speakers154]

That's brilliant!

[@pfanderfilms]

Thanks Garrett, well spotted!

[@jonbasa]

Don't forget the "rosary" of Muslims which I'm sure copied from Christianity and then from Hinduism and Buddhism.

[@Speakers154]

I've traced it to the prayer rope on which Christians prayer the Jesus prayer 33 times.

[@ianmcdonald8648]

@@Speakers154 specifically Roman Catholics and Greek Orthodox and Russian Orthodox if I am not mistaken.

[@Speakers154]

@@ianmcdonald8648 It was started in Egypt so Coptic, though that far back in time, 3rd or 4th century, theyd be termed Eastern Christians, or simply Catholics, possibly Orthodox. (I know these terms are fought over so I'm trying to be fair to each group. 😁 )

[@StanGraham1]

Very observant Jon! And correct too!!

[@midimusicforever]

Busted again lol, the internet is the death of islam!

[@drakedorosh9332]

On the subject of arks, there was a tradition in Egypt where on a God's special day of festivities worshipers took the idol on a circuit around the temple. It was like a parade. In modern times on Sunday after or before church the day when the shoppes were closed it was not uncommon for people to walk in a circuit around main street dressed in their finest clothes, tipping their hats at people they found to be respectable. I was in Marrakesh in the late 80's and while the people there were Muslim they had the same tradition. In Canada they called it Young Street. This walking in a circuit around the temple in parade is just natural to humans.

[@ASHORSHEMAYA]

11.19 no dr.Jaykaabe didn't mean a cube in arabic ... This meaning "Kaaba = cube" is a modern meaning that was promoted at a late time.. As for the classical Arabic language, the Kaaba does not mean a cube at all, but rather a round shape.. or a thing that moves in a round way..

[@Blissblizzard]

The Hatun semicircular wall on the NW facet, used to "wrap around" all 3 walls without touching. More like a magic circle. It was a horseshoe shape with an opening at the South East. The original ka'aba may have been smaller, made of rougher dressed stone.

[@nikkkisumray2972]

I thought originally the so- called Kaaba was, in fact, a Hindu shrine, that is why Muslims in Mecca dress as Hindus not muslims.

[@Blissblizzard]

Correlation is not causation There is an exquisite hand carved temple in Brent NW London. I can vouch for that being Hindu

[@nikkkisumray2972]

@@Blissblizzard that answer is neither here nor there.

[@Blissblizzard]

@@nikkkisumray2972 Its definitely there in London, fact. Correlation is not Causation

[@rukhsanaamin5942]

Thanks Jay for showing us the truth, we were in need of this truth. I was searching for Masjid al haram and the real place of Hajj for a long time. You said that Prophet Muhammad was an illiterate man, it is not right, he was a literate as well as a successful merchant and a successful ruler, though his station was not in present Saudi Arab, his staying place were in Jordan, Palestine, Syria and Jerusalem, he fought many wars. What we know about him from Hadith is a later innovation and forgery in Islam. Hadith totally damaged Islam and prophet Muhammad.

[@morneterblanche2228]

Having a degree is like a sheep who follows a Wolfe in sheep clothing. Brainwashed to what they know , not to what was left out

[@joubhaya4907]

Just 👏👏👏and good job as always 👍👍👍

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Gods saying look here !!!! 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Its where Jesus reveals so much and walks after the last supper but also says his prayer, identifys Peter will deny him by days end and end days. So much betrayal and evil that also will play out in that spot that God is putting a red flag 🚩 target saying look here. Just really highlights so much in that particular location. Knowing Satan's deceitful manipulation to come it really does bring new meaning .

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

@Randal R You know your deep doctrine thats very good 👍. Sadly the last half a century these pastors go learn from the best IFB scholars and pastors then they get hung up on one simple theory and see a means to build a ministry around that fun charismatic idea just tiny part of the greater Bible . Then it's always been those who are scared of the real story and only fellowship or teach the cover story never truly advancing Christians understanding or learning. It is time and place to learn advanced doctrine but not enough take that step and they are left in the dark. They refuse to know all things or to know the adversary we are dealing with.. Of course the very many who wrestle with God and secular views that just want God and Bible to be in the image if them and their lifestyle. They are so unprepared or deceived by false teachings that doesn't explore all theorys behind it all.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Its to many times God is guiding us all in scripture to put on the armor of God he isn't guide you anymore than over 20 plus verses on writing. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Cane did things his way and wanted God in his image to credit his goals and his way of life how he his offerings was more worthy cause his works and sacrifices was so great I have nothing against introductory level churches but many pastors fill seats for donations and dont encourage or prepare anyone to advance in study. They are stuck on the same page.

[@tiasunepamri1944]

Thank you for all the insights. However I dont like it when you talk about cgange of G sound to J as "confusion" as Jay did in 27:28 These two sounds are easily interchangeable. You will find such changes not only in Arabic but in other languages too. It is frequent in my language too. This sound change is natural and frequent, its not confusion.

[@asifbrettishmaelmakki9]

in Arab their is "Jeem=J or G" and their is also the completely different letter "Gahayn = pronounced from throat"

[@wtrmute]

Yes, they are a bit confused about the relationship between Hebrew gimel and Arabic Jeem, but that is because they are all theologians rather than linguists. The actual relation is the same between P in Latin an F in English in the following words: _pater_ and _father,_ or _pes_ and _foot._ This relation in Semitic languages is that much stronger given the central place of triliteral roots in the Afroasiatic family. There are several roots which are clearly related but a Hebrew/Aramaic _gimel_ corresponds to an Arabig _jim_ (for example, the word for "camel" is transliterated _kamal_ in Hebrew but _jamal_ in Arabic). @Pfander Films, you should probably try the specialist word "cognate" to refer to the relation between Hebrew _gimel_ and Arabic _jim._

[@eva4adam451]

My Nice had Chinese blood. When she was 2 she called red as led. All Rr became the L We say: Eva, Russians call me Jeva, Spanish say Eba, English say Eyva, or Ieva. Or Efaa. Hebrew say Hava, arabs say Hrawa Zo funny.

[@wtrmute]

@@eva4adam451 Chinese blood may not have much to do with it; the retroflex approximant (the "English R") is a difficult sound to master and it is not uncommon for children to have difficulty with it; a good number of children even go to the phonoaudiologist for some help in pronouncing it correctly.

[@StanGraham1]

Excellent observation Tiasunep, and totally correct!

[@christopheromo1932]

Mel, you are wonderfully genius may the Lord bless and keep for his kingdom amen thank u Jay

[@rafapal4519]

There is a lack in the vídeo: the prohibition of eat pork, that shares jews and muslims. What's the origin of this banning if there were no porks in the desert?

[@mikechua2240]

What is the meaning of unlevened bread???.

[@Speakers154]

It is to do with the exodus. Before the Jews escaped with Moses, they made bread for the journey but there was no time to let it rise, so like bread without yeast.

[@mikechua2240]

@@Speakers154 i got it. Thanks

[@mikechua2240]

@@Speakers154 so bread made without yeast is call unleaven bread. 👍👍👍🙏🙏

[@frederickpile4308]

The bread represents the Word /Messiah /YHWH , and the leven sin.

[@frederickpile4308]

And Bethlehem means ''house of bread.'' Micah 5 : 2

[@DonMeaker]

It is a rectangular parallelepiped....

[@chaichris5849]

‘Well done, good and faithful servant! ' I think that's what our Lord would say to you guys!

[@501Mobius]

Jerusalem post reports that a local man's goat was stolen from a field and slaughtered in what appeared to have ritualistic overtones. Suspects include two adult males, a youth and a very old man. Information concerning this incident to be reported to the Jebusite constabulary.

[@melz2743]

Another similarity, non Muslim are not allowed in Mecca, similarly Gentiles are not allowed at the Temple Mount.

[@PixelogistFacts]

What the h#ll you talking about? Non-Muslims are not allowed in Mecca? That laws was made by Saudi government. None in the Quran state that non-Muslim cant be there. Even after the conquest of Mecca, the pagan and Jews are still there.

[@stantheindian]

Is there any Muslim counter point to these discoveries? I’d love to see and hear them.

[@rodneyhowarth8236]

Can i ask Where is the threshing floor on the temple mount??

[@Speakers154]

@Arief Sheik That's misinformation. That was next to Temple.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

The latest archaeological dig of the kings palace below the Temple Mount is built on a large flat section of land. A threshing floor is a large, flat, hard piece of land to spread out the wheat to beat it. Ornam the Jebusite was the owner prior to King David. The current Temple Mount has & was built up to be flat. The original Temple was built on flat land and totally destroyed by the Romans. Makes you wonder. Parts of the current Temple Mount walls were built by the Romans and in the 1400th century by the Ottomans.

[@rodneyhowarth8236]

@@sgt.grinch3299 as Indiana Jones said” They are digging( looking ) in the wrong place”

[@joelgough6902]

"Nothing original in Islam". What about Ramadan? Jews only have a single Day of Atonement.

[@ExtraEcclesiamNullaSalus]

This is great research, but To be honest, why would it be "copying" Judaism be a bad thing if they believed they were descendents of Ishmael, and therefore also heirs to these traditions God gave? That makes more sense than adopting "pagan" practices. It would be showing their loyalty to the abrahamic religion by doing these things. Christians would wear sackcloth and ashes when they were repenting as a penance during the first centuries of christianity (something I advocate we should take up again), based on the same source from the Old Testament.

[@mogbaba]

The idea is, as there is nothing original with it, it is just a copy put in a different shape, then it is man-made. But, then again it is not something original, as all religions are man-made!

[@mhasson33]

Wouldn’t be a problem if they were humble and admit being a branch of Judaism and respect the Jews instead of hating and inciting against them and claiming to be the only valid version of gods covenant

[@murielpucoe9213]

Ishmael was not an Arab ... or did the genes jump into an Arab? Egyptian morher and a hebrew father does not make you arab. Also the authentic hadiths like Bukhari and al tabari said... the prophet's geneology only goes as far as Adnaan. Those who says something else is lying.

[@murielpucoe9213]

We cant go back to the old covenant because Jesus came with the new covernant.

[@ghostbutterflies8645]

When Jesus didn't return after the Dome of the Rock was built, the non-messianic Sadducee's escalated a polemic against the divinity of Jesus and the Ummayads that culminated in 750? And when devotion to the Qu’ran couldn’t be eliminated by the Abbasids, later tafsirs and siras were concocted to change the meaning of Muhammad away from the divine body of Jesus?

[@lionelroland2250]

Jesus never existed

[@JacobAdewumi]

@@lionelroland2250 According to Christoph Luxenberg's Syro-Aramaic reading of the Koran, "For more than a millennium Aramaic was the lingua franca in the entire Middle Eastern region before being gradually displaced by Arabic beginning in the 7th century." (Page 10) This suggests that Aramaic was the language and culture of Christianize Arabs. Since Arabic was not a written language by this time, its stands to reason that the Koran is a collection of the liturgies and teachings of Christianize Arabs, which was later compiled and redacted to fit the political and religious agenda of early Arab rulers in the 8th -10th century. The Koran is nothing but a plagarized work from Aramaic Christian texts. Much of what we call Isalm today was borrowed from Judaism and early Christians lectionary( more like a cut and paste religion) JESUS IS LORD

[@lionelroland2250]

@@JacobAdewumi i agree with everything you said except the Jesus is lord not my lord APTMH AHAYA ELOHIM!

[@bobertospearza8800]

Are not the muslims misrepresenting Gods WORD from the Torah and Bible by copying to create the quran and the religion of islam ...

[@nunya54]

"They" didn't copy the Torah and The Bible (the Quran also does not copy or make mention of "The Bible"). You can't copy a religion that is from the same God. God doesn't copy himself; the Quran is not the speech of any man or the Muslims. It's God's direct speech.

[@RandomMoves923]

on the top of the hill = good breeze= good separation of wheat and chaff

[@Dick_Interritus]

Very interesting info, I can't say it is very surprising. Is there a book explaining where the writers of the Quran borrowed the different Surahs from?

[@oneway1119]

Word of mouth . Back then books were luxury! Not widely available. They heard stories about Holy Books! Came up with their own version and spin.

[@levislevis5729]

Answering islam. Search internet

[@marierrvik4063]

Hurray! This is really touching me.

[@Speakers154]

Thanks Marie! Much appreciated.

[@wagsbass]

So the standard narrative does have holes in it

[@mogbaba]

Mosque--> Masjed in Arabic--> Mazget in Middle Persian, Zoroastrian prayer house. Me'eraj is an imitation of Zoroastrian Erdavivraf- Nameh, ande many more.

[@1CT1]

Accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and you will be saved. John 3:16 (share the good news of the gospel around the world!).........,,,..,...,.,,,,.,

[@savior2899]

It just reminds me of the video by Jonathan cahn on::: spirit of ishmiel in islam , who is trying to snatch the blessings of Issac which GOD promised by him....

[@curare18]

Malaysia should see this

[@Speakers154]

I've sent my resources to people in Malaysia to be translated so they will see it soon.

[@curare18]

Laws are strict here. Hope it gets distributed effectively.

[@truthseeker7951]

See the translation in Indonesian in channel LYGLO APOLOGETICS

[@didierfavre2356]

Bekka in Lebanon was a place of worship since prehistoric times. Romans built a huge temple there. It took them centuries without finishing it. It is dedicated to Jupiter/Zeus. It looks almost like building the Vatican in the desert. I'm curious to see whether their sizes match. If it is a place of worship when you're going to Jerusalem, it would start making sense to build such a temple almost in nowhere land. It is not associated with a big city I heard of. In prehistorical times, people managed to move incredibly huge stones. In fact, the columns one can see on each picture of the site are the size of what the prehistoric people moved. It is bigger than Gobekli Tepe site, close to Sanhurfa. A name I discovered when Mel mentioned it. In that site, people went at great length building the site before agriculture existed. I do not know whether they are related. They are both incredibly old and both are places of worship.

[@Blissblizzard]

You live near there now?

[@geoffreybslater1146]

You have missed the point. They believe as is taught in the Koran that Ismail was taken to Moriah to be sacrificed, not Issac. That is the significance.

[@yehiaelyamani6943]

You are half right & half wrong: Muslims do believe it was about Ismail, however the Quran does not specify anything apart from it being Abraham's son

[@yousuf6382]

@@yehiaelyamani6943 المذبح وطقوس الحج والجمرات والسعي كان في مكة ! أقرأ تفسير ابن تيمية لهذا ..

[@franklinpanakkal97]

Can we bring our jewish brothers into this research we can all collaborate.

[@Speakers154]

All are welcome. Joe will be coming on soon..

[@franklinpanakkal97]

@@Speakers154 so we have sorted out the problem and we are collaborating now. Good news

[@gilmerschmidt793]

How else do you make a counterfeit?

[@StanGraham1]

As a suggestion, I think it would enhance the viewers’ learning experience if you or your guests, in this case Mel, would use the Hebrew (Yemini) pronunciation of Hebrew terms: then the listener can hear the nearly identical sounds of the Hebrew and Arabic. It’s remarkable the similarity. God bless!

[@MrResearcher122]

I don't think any of them speak Arabic.

[@jackmcnally9237]

As a linguist I m interested !

[@nikkkisumray2972]

“Chag” in Hebrew means “day”, as in Day of Atonement. Interesting the Muslims pre verted it!

[@garrett6076]

Actually "chag" means celebration or feast. It is used in reference to Passover (Chag Pesach), the Feast of Weeks (Chag Shavuot), and the Feast of Tabernacles (Chag Sukkot). The word for "day" is "yom" as in "Yom Kippur" - "the Day of Atonement"

[@nikkkisumray2972]

@@garrett6076 ok, thanks 😊

[@leboyh628]

@@garrett6076 chag sameach means have a good holiday

[@DuchessMari]

Chag in Hebrew also means circle ⭕️

[@leboyh628]

@@DuchessMari which totally makes sense in the Islamic context

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

I pray for your continued success in exposing this fraud, brethren and I put my money where my heart is - in support of your ministry.

[@isallah1kafir196]

Here is *one topic I wish more Critics would investigate* Was Muhammad one false Messiah, since religious Jews today are still awaiting one political human last prophet of God the Messiah who shall come. Since for the Jews say that Jesus was not this Messiah, they are still looking out for his arrival *and this hope could be misused* if the situations would be correct for it to happen. And yes there are clues in the Islamic sources that this may have happened.

[@gebedzandvoort]

In the Arabic Bible (Van Dyke) I found this translation for 'Moriah': الْمُرِيَّا. The pronuciation is al-muriyaa and not al-marwa. See also 2 Chronicles 3 vers 1 in the Arabic Bible.

[@elizabethgeorge4708]

Eid al adhah الاضحى)الاضحى from اضحية odhiah ، meaning animal offering) , is not the one they do after Ramadan. After Ramadan is eid al fitr ( meaning breaking the fast). For al adhah they do the major Haj , the one required to be done at least once in the each Muslim’s life as a requirement to be a Muslim , known as one of the five pillars of Islam.

[@murielpucoe9213]

But where did they copy it from? Because the Hindus circle also during weddings.

[@firstnamesecondname852]

Here are some examples of their plagiarism: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_legends_in_the_Quran They also copied a lot from the Mishna.

[@tamiotribe5238]

Some muhammedans claim that the muhammedan scripture is a miracle by the arabian prophet. But then again if its the word of alla how can it be the prophets miracle? Is it allas miracle or the prophets? Nuffsaid.

[@konradv7]

Christians change the narrative, too. The people were allowed their winter and spring festivals, but they meant something new, Christmas and Easter.

[@kevinunderwood9980]

I think you guys are missing one thing ! . You have not investigated Kadija and where she came from and what her commision was. ! ! ! Check it out. !

[@Blissblizzard]

Spill the beans Kevin! Kadija is trending right now!

[@kevinunderwood9980]

@@Blissblizzard sir I will refer you to a Man who has made many videos and it cost him his life to do so. He goes into great detail about how Islam was created for military conquest and he names all the caracters involved and why it happened. I sent a message to Hatun recently about it, I havent heard if she has watched it, but she is very busy and the videos come from Chic publications. The video has so much infomation from Christian perspective as well as Islamic perspective, I have watched it many times and it is not a recent video. I dont remember exactly when it was, but maybe 1990's. Go check Chic publications. I downloaded it onto my PC many years ago.

[@Blissblizzard]

@@kevinunderwood9980 Chick Publications l found right away. Unfortunately it's very controversial. If you have a more academic lead?

[@Bei-Abedan]

Yes indeed. When someone copies another's ideas and claims its theirs, that's called Plagiarism. But we have always known about the Judaic origins of Islam, is not really something which can be hidden from people who practice Judaism.

[@Delgen1951]

Counterfeit is perhaps a better word.

[@Bei-Abedan]

@@Delgen1951 I wanted to mention plagiarism for a specific reason known to hundreds of people who follow my work.

[@hdde8888]

Thanks Paul Ellis for "Jerusalem Thesis", as well as Mel ? (from ‘Sneaker’s Corner’), Dr. Jay Smith, Murad ?, Joe ? (from "Red Judaism"), Al Fadi ? and all other people for so much amazing job !!!

[@dendennis9060]

From Gabriel to the Michael or Mikhail age. Thank U, Archangel Michael 😇

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

The DEEPER issue is how Islam has taken the SACRED things of Judaism--->Christianity, and perverted the Holiness of YHWH. A Temple of YHWH converted to a Masjid of the Pagan Allah(Al Lah)!

[@charlesmungo6782]

An abomination.

[@kafirlindaclark6148]

@@charlesmungo6782 Exactly correct Charles!

[@patrickkparrker413]

Jehovah

[@davidchase1439]

Jerusalem is City of the Great King Lord Jesus !

[@lionelroland2250]

He never existed!

[@Purwapada]

very cool!!

[@Peter-xf9jy]

seems the Quran has preserved the site of the original Mekka مكه , namely Bakka ىكه > Beka. which happens to indicate some kind of (at least partial) oral tradition, which made it impossible to change that one verse. same for Ahmad and Muhammad.

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

Point of "translation" (for the folks in the U.S. Anti-clockwise is, of course, pronounced, counterclockwise.

[@patrickkparrker413]

Stop apeasing the yanks .

[@aig1111]

How deceptive n dangerous this cult is! They copied from others n then tried to own it n even claimed Jesus is muslim. How pathetic

[@putrableeker151]

I believe to be muslim means to submit to the true word of god. I'm in no way an expert on the subject but heard it on youtube a few times. By definition it makes sense for jesus to be muslim. Allah even means god in arabic. The difference between these abrahamic religions are minor to say the least. Either Jesus is god, or a prophet of god. Either the messiah has arrived, or he has not. Just follow your religion true to original scriptures and go on. Science carbon dating scriptures to their earliest version and correct translation are the only ways to reach the truth and both just point out that the bible had a lot added, taken out and lost in translation compared to the other books (torah and quran).

[@aig1111]

@@putrableeker151 its an insult to my intelligence and many others including Christians to discuss if Jesus is muslim. Anyway to satisfy muslims’ claim, let’s discuss. Jesus must be a very bad muslim or messenger of allah because he preached entirely the opposite to allah and even did not mention the 5 key pillars to be a muslim. Secondly, he acknowledged the Father while allah specifically rebute being a father. Thirdly, the reason why muslims claim Jesus was a muslim is because he prostrated in prayer. 😃 come on! Jesus did pray by looking up at the heaven too. Besides there are evidences that islam copied everything from others including how muhammad was caught praying like the Jews n when questioned, he quickly changed . Jesus never mentioned about hating or forcing non believers to believe but instead preached love your enemy. List can go on and on! Stay away from islam! An early century political cult created by Arabs to control the people.

[@putrableeker151]

@@aig1111 as I said, I'm ill equipped to discuss this type of content. I only came to share what I heard. One of the only things that I know for certain, which I can reply to your comment is that Islam in itself does not allow for compulsion in religion and that arabs aren't the benificiaries of the faith, as they don't have a particularily high standing in it according to muslims I do know. Please visit a local mosque to discuss your findings if you do want discussion around the topic of religion.

[@putrableeker151]

@@aig1111 also I respectfully ask you to contest the meaning of muslim in my original comment. You may not be able to separate the word 'muslim' from the religion of Islam, but by definition it's impossible for Jesus not to be in the arabic language, as he follows the true word of god. Is that not correct?

[@aig1111]

@@putrableeker151 there is a verse about no compulsion in religion yes u are right. (2:256) That was initially added to gain n deceive the people to gain their support. However later a verse was added 9:5 . Ask yourself, is there no compulsion in islam? What happens when a muslim leave his/her religion?

[@shadstla]

Didn’t anyone who is detached from Islam really need to study to know that Islam was copied from other monotheism, and it’s a very bad copy my 12year old could do a better job. Says a lot about those following it.. More then that I believe Revelation 9 deals with Islam.. 1woe and second woe!!

[@tomjeff1743]

If some father today told the police that God made him kill his only son I'm thinking that wouldn't hold up in court

[@charlesmungo6782]

So to me this is a clear depiction of the abomination of desolation mentioned in scripture.

[@maymckissick9232]

That's what I thought about it, too.

[@sheikhboyardee556]

It appears that there has never been an original thought out of Islam. Everything is a copy of some other religion.

[@alexandrakaraboukoukis931]

God Himself Using Mel & Mr. Smith & Others Reveiling the truth ❤

[@Kiwifactor46]

And was the revealing of the Quran to Mohammed in the cave copied from Shimon bar Yochai and the Zohar in the cave?

[@Kiwifactor46]

@mysotiras10 Frankly, I don't know a lot about this, and would like to hear your perspective, if you wouldn't mind sharing.