What If Germany REALLY Lost WWI?

[@Packy21]

I've replied to these a few times, but to finally give an answer to the speculation: hi. Former INOT dev (mainly just localisation, creative consult and music mod) here. INOT died because everybody just moved on. The "dev team" was never anything as serious as say your kaiserreichs or TNOs. It was mostly 3 people (one of whom was the lovely Lofn who now works on Pax Britannica, being mainly responsible for the German tree), with one leaving rather soon into the mod's life. After this, it was a struggle to find people who were really engaged with the project while also respecting the main dev's vision. A lot of people came and went (me honestly included), and that let to slow updates with low output. As everybody who stuck around was a uni student, we ended up getting very busy. This, with the added problem of low morale due to low output, and some other personal issues, led to the already fragile dev team stepping away from what we were doing with nobody really being able to pick up from there until redux came out. We basically left HOI4 modding altogether and some of them don't even play at all due to lack of time. If the redux devs are reading this: have fun with INOT! I hope you can breathe some new life into it.

[@riyvk]

if you can provide any information on the following, that'd be rad, but what exactly was the main dev's "vision"? and when and why did they leave (if at all)?

[@CoffeeSuccubus]

"INOT"... I swear people who make abrivistions for names are funny

[@Cassandria]

Oh hey, you probably finished my work that I started. Cool.

[@rat_ratratratrat]

how did u comment 8h ago and the vid is 2h old?

[@TheBaldEagle24]

@@rat_ratratratrat Members see it first.

[@xeanderman6688]

It doesn't matter which alternative WW2 mod you use. Huey Long always comes to haunt you

[@clone3_7]

Nah, that is Hirohito

[@cr1tikal_arc]

@@clone3_7 that's kind of obvious considering he was the emperor at the time... huey IRL died in 1935, before most hoi4 mods start

[@Lady_Amelia-Eloise]

Dread it, run from it, the long dong arrives all the same

[@doggydog2087]

XD the sigh got me 😂😂😂

[@wormydiaz]

3:20 frances perkins is actually a pretty significant and interesting but unknown piece of american history. she was longtime friends with FDR, she was the first woman to serve in the presidential cabinet and was the united states secretary of labor for just over 12 years, which is still the longest anyone has served in that position.

[@justelliot4870]

Glad someone else has commented this!

[@nius9327]

She's the goat. She was heavily involved in the creation of the 40-hour week, minimum wage, unemployment insurance and oh yeah banning child labor.

[@neuswabian9442]

​@@nius9327horrible woman.

[@bidenator9760]

@@neuswabian9442 Fine, then go work 24/7 without insurance.

[@loichuahangngay140]

@@neuswabian9442 😂 moron

[@TheBaldEagle24]

The fact that iSorrowProductions cannot escape Huey Long in these Alt History Mods is just beautiful every time I see it happen.

[@ScotchWhiskey864]

ISPiderman into the Huey-verse

[@huni1939]

Russia winning the Great War is about as realistic as Steiner's counterattack being successful

[@WFDennisWF]

Theres always the chance

[@ArthurMorgan_Gaming]

So what you’re saying is that it has a 43732% probability of happening?

[@Notexactlydat]

It was possible if the old men took their nonexistent meds

[@stunningandbased5516]

What do you mean? Steiners counterattack did happen and was succesful, an austrian man told me so.

[@Crapartstudio]

The Berdan rifle proved more powerful than the Mauser

[@larsquestionmark]

well ISP, turns out you were my favourite creator of this year by a landslide, which is really funny considering the fact i started watching halfway through the year congrats on burdening me with the curse of enjoying HOI4

[@thesus-ing8810]

Wait a minute I’ve seen you somewhere…

[@lugyd1xdone195]

​@@thesus-ing8810 same

[@andenfighter0078]

11:46 it seems the AI really doesnt want to train units. If half the USAs stockpile equals to 750k small arms and they dont even have an actualy frontline maybe thats whats up

[@Seanman2006]

0:50 thats not a void thats a countertop in a kitchen lol

[@bensnumber1fan708]

Israel being in Uganda was an alternative solution to a Jewish state procured by Theodor Hertzel, a lot of the hardliners refused any home that wasn't Judea but there was a fear that if no home was found soon the Jews will befall another disaster

[@thea6573]

I like the idea the Jewish in Madagascar or Alaska so much alternative Jewish States that can happen.

[@shay-kg7ks]

​​@@thea6573there were two more "ideas", one of them in buttfuck nowhere Siberia, and one in a town in the usa

[@thea6573]

@@shay-kg7ks Or the northern part of Japan, Hokkaido or the Ryukyu Islands. Even Vladivostok when Japan was temporarily occupied during the Russian Civil War.

[@napoleonbonaparte6705]

Ultimatly, a jewish state could only ever exist in the jewish birthplace of the land of Israel (Judea, Palestine, Canaan), but there were other options proposed, all of witch were regected.

[@michaelchristy506]

Kaiserredux, Great War redux, furheredux, in the name of the tsar redux. Guys am I missing anything?

[@Overunder705]

Executor Redux, the Star Wars mod

[@tobs7003]

Existence Redux

[@MeAndMyFriendBovineTapeworm]

Milleniunm Dawn redux. It doesn't exist. But it should!

[@prohacker5086]

metro 2033 REdux, san andreas REDUX

[@easternoilcrisis]

Red worldux

[@DumbCup]

Fun fact Every artillery commander quits even though they are one barrage away from winning the war

[@b_lazer5435]

What if Ratmany Lost WWI?

[@KaiRandrupThomsen]

Ratmany cant lose

[@Burred11]

9:54 nah nah nah. Campaign for North Aftica is still 2 weeks away. ISN'T THAT RIGHT, VALEFISK?!?

[@maxkaufmann833]

Hey iSorrow, one of your history majors here! Alfred Hugenberg was a German right-wing newspaperman and ideologue who financed both the NSDAP (the Nazis), and the Stahlhelm (the Steel Helmets), a right-wing veterans association and paramilitary. He was a fervent believer in the Dolchstoßlegende (the Stab-in-the-back Myth), and sought to destroy the Weimar Republic, which he saw as an agent of decadent Western thought, Judaism, and politically saw the Republic as "anti-German" (in other words, an idiotic whacko). He was the leader of the DNVP, the German National People's Party, an antisemitic, nationalist, and monarchist political party in Weimar Germany. Hugenberg was a member of the First Hitler Cabinet, as Reich Minister of the Economy, but he was very quickly pushed aside (about five months into this tenure). He remained a "honorary member" of the Nazi Reichstag until the end of the war, and he later died in 1951.

[@fanis1414]

Based

[@maxkaufmann833]

@@fanis1414 We'll agree to disagree on that one.

[@chombus2602]

​@@maxkaufmann833 chill out

[@cynicat74]

@@fanis1414 cringe

[@Tom-oj7si]

Op is foolish

[@tobiasGR3Y]

In the Name of the Redux! *When iSorrowredux?*

[@user-10100]

Who designed China in this mod, they just carved China into Qing, ROC and PRC. What does Russia winning the Great War have to do with the Qing dynasty coming back to life?

[@Pioneer_DE]

Maybe without the Russian Civil War the Entente focused their military aid on aiding the Qing instead of sending it to White Russia like they did in our time line

[@johnteixeira1791]

The Manchu Restoration was an attempt to restore the Qing to power in 1917, this mod seems to explore the alternative history of that revolution succeeding, at least in part, perhaps due to Russian influence.

[@ThePurplePeppy]

I wish there was an Apres moi le deluge redux. I feel like that mod and scenario had a ton of potential, but the focus tree just stayed way too barren for it to shine.

[@chefboyardee2223]

11:24 I feel like corn man would really get along with the hot dog salesman

[@cadzilla]

when is the what if tesco won ww1 redux mod coming

[@mongolhorde5827]

>plays mod he hadn't played before >decides to turn the mod into base game

[@Gormekistan]

Honestly I'd be terrified by the sentient white cube of doom

[@Bluesonofman]

Youjo Senki Redux is made by the same people as the OG mod they just decided to release the entire mod.

[@nLocky]

Me: I swear i wont get political Me after one beer: 4:09

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

OH GOD! THE VOICES IN MY HEAD ARE BACK! AND THEY'RE SPEAKING IN BANGERS AND MASH!

[@Hlasd]

I saw a game you might enjoy, but more suitable for your ISP channel: Ratshaker

[@wafflemanswaffles]

What if ISP REALLY lost the rat war?

[@LittlegeckoAndFriends]

Good episode as always. I think the crash is because of the collab. I had the same problem and I think it's a vanilla based issue.

[@solsunman383]

My amateur guess with the random states being given to the wrong country glitch, is that the original mod and the Redux have different province ids for those states. So perhaps the provinces around Riga were originally part of France (in the original mod/vanilla), but were then repurposed to expand the number of states in Russia (in the Redux). Unfortunately, the decisions files haven't been updated (if this is the case), so the decisions still think they're part of France.

[@walnzell9328]

Russia during World War I: We are the protectors of all Slavic peoples. Russia if they won World War I: **Leave the Slovenes under Austrian rule.**

[@lugyd1xdone195]

They also left Polabianslavs under Prussia

[@a_person_of_all_time]

2:32 I love how ISP doesn't even concider the democratic path a option

[@valance10]

Why would you ever consider democracy in hoi4

[@chombus2602]

Probably because you can't reunite Germany as democratic

[@james4893]

At this point, you should come to Louisiana just to see where Huey Long got shot

[@JacobFraps]

That "kill me" when you saw huey long 😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jfair1006]

Why the hell does my rewind tell me ISorrow is my top youtuber? All i did was watch literally everything hes ever made

[@merekem4635]

10:26 this part was the funniest part of the video ngl.

[@scorby2]

isp put a workshop link in the description challenge: IMPOSSIBLE

[@M3a4Stuart]

Give palpatine’s gambit now

[@wildfire9280]

3:19 FDR’s something something labor something

[@pocketmarcy6990]

Encircling mass amounts of Russian troops in Hoi4 is just so much easier than doing it with any other country

[@MorshuArtsInc]

You might actually know Alfred Hugenberg already since he is also an advisor in vanilla HOI. He's the Monarchist Media Mogul and gives +0.10 non-aligned support per day.

[@Wahsteinious]

March of the Eagles A-Z when

[@DeadHawk23]

I've been subbed for a long time and this is the first iSorrow video KZbin has shown me on my home page. That's pretty weird now that I think about it.

[@hueylong3918]

There is no escape from me Mr. Productions

[@aleks484]

PLAY THE FIRE RISES

[@kingsweden4636]

true

[@onlywin7856]

Białystok reference

[@mayo6009]

YESSSSSS I MISSED THIS

[@Lady_Amelia-Eloise]

Alfred Hugenburg was a German monarchist and leader of the DNVP, and let’s just say he had some not great political ideas He’s also the monarchist advisor for Germany in base game

[@skinwalker69420]

ME. I LIKE THE FPS MAP OVER STOCK. THAT'S WHO IT APPEALS TO.

[@justhere4637]

3:17 Why is Huey Long everywhere I think?

[@SubLordHawk]

Go go Balkan Shield Force!

[@Targetpainted20]

You should play Der Bruderkrieg again

[@CoeGr]

low gravy timothees

[@terrified057t4]

why are there pineapples next to all the DLCs other than MTG..? Edit: lmao Balkan Shield Force got the Avengers theme in my head

[@R3GARnator]

What if Artillery Only won WW1?

[@lordshaxx4693]

We need Kaiserredux redux

[@subbyskaldon]

THERE'S NO REDUX OF EAW THO!

[@gabrielleon9059]

Tbh, I dont think being part of Germany would be that bad (I'm puertorican)

[@Brechyyy]

Could you maybe next time link the mod that you are playing? That would be nice.

[@nicky42742]

I am your graviest Timothy :3

[@zedgy3559]

Day 451 demanding ISP to form Mongolian empire with generic focus tree and minimal mods.

[@FASHUST_NAXER]

I guess u played old version rn in steam we have did alot

[@sorkvild1473]

11:15 For people who play Kaiserraich he is the biggest piece of shit in this timeline...

[@guardiansofarthedain3114]

RED FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

[@almanachim7866]

What if Isp plays a nother country than germany in götterdämmerung

[@sebastianvega7388]

Puerto Rico Mentioned!!!!!🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷⁉️⁉️🗣️what the fuck is statehood⁉️⁉️🗣️

[@gororgelester985]

void ocean appeals to me and my light sensitivity but tbh thats more to do with vic 3 that game is way to bright

[@MowThatLawn]

Play the funny pony mod, do it

[@Kirb-kc4vs]

Play the fire rises mod You wont regret it

[@maciejbala477]

Always weird how these mods rarely give Greater Poland back to Poland? Like, you give Upper Silesia back, that's cool, but not the literal birthplace of the nation? Just a bit strange to me that this often seems to happen somehow. I feel like Poznań and Greater Poland would always be pursued no matter who was ruling Poland because of that, and its majority Polish population. Even vanilla HoI4 wants you to give it to the Germans in some focus paths, whereas I feel like it's vastly different than giving up Danzig and it's much more important symbolically to keep Greater Poland. Just random rant because it bothers me. Don't mind me lol

[@Neko-ex1ce]

Could you play again as communist, Germany?

[@ziggydo]

Huey Loooooonnnggg Dooonnngggg!

[@fernsong8558]

Last time I was this early ISP played KERBAL SPACE PROGRAM

[@Kai_serWilhelm]

Where is the RAT?

[@manspider4323]

You mean they didn't win??

[@pascalsch14]

A socialist Bavaria..what? That's gotta be be most unrealistic thing in this whole game

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

Why? Bavaria had a socialist revolution in 1919

[@pascalsch14]

@goldenfiberwheat238 was joking about it's current bad state

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

@ I don’t know anything about Bavaria’s current politics sorry. I figured you were a Bavarian nationalist because I’ve seen a Bavarian nationalist complain about the same thing in the comments of a video showing another mod with a divided Germany

[@goldenfiberwheat238]

@ what’s going on in Bavaria rn anyway? I know saxony had the Afd get a majority recently

[@pascalsch14]

@@goldenfiberwheat238 I'm more of a socialist in Thuringia. The thing with Bavaria is that it's being ruled by the CSU a off branch of the CDU, they are very populistic, are against social security and against immigrants. Also the leader of the CSU is such a cringe lord, for example crying about "the greens wanting to make eating meat illegal" spoiler: they don't. Or he's saying he doesn't want any drugs in Bavaria while chugging a beer. There's much much more but I think that's enough to get the gist of it

[@Inspierio]

where is the RAT

[@zaoda1357]

in the name of the map

[@ElliotJohanssonBoije]

more alf landon please

[@azpont7275]

Generally if a mod feels easier, that's bc AI still can't really make proper divisions, so most likely they start (and stick with) shitty ones in the mod

[@Hero-van-Bonn]

Why they dont update great war redux 😢😢

[@plconqueror5040]

When Lichtenstein world conquest? (Vanilla hoi4)

[@TheRavenLord1]

Petition for ISP to play Two Scillies/Roman Empire in Kaiserredux Day 113

[@Kilgorio]

wow

[@Assassinsam353]

RAAAAT

[@Ltwin_weimsantiago]

100 views in half a minute, you're over isp

[@KarimLaksir-AchegaYear8]

What is up mate

[@FrancisLouVera]

Where's the Rat??

[@Jakeripper-w7x]

GERMAN WIN WAR

[@HGShurtugal]

I'll never sub to you as the navy sucks in HoI IV

[@ProgressOnly]

He just wanted the corn

[@RyneAmason-vu9ky]

The Long Dong is back!

[@jaxkommish]

Booo yah

[@R-BGamingUK]

Gotta love me some monarchism

[@RandomAutist]

ISP this is the fifth time you showed us in the name of the tsar, what? what do you mean it's a redux version, they can do that?

[@Tlhague998]

Mfw a girl shows interest in me: 😐 Mfw iSorrow calls me a gravy baby: 🥴

[@TheStickCollector]

Maybe if they actually started it instead of Austria-Hungary

[@P1kaSans]

in the name of czar Cheese Man!!

[@Bingo-i9f]

i tried to play this mod but it doesnt work for me (ig wrong version)

[@lubuskimapper4414]

Yay

[@boyankovachev7982]

❤❤❤

[@Rapphero]

107 views after 38 secs, you fell man, you fell