Israel defends itself against genocide case brought to ICJ by South Africa

[@unknownhuman7919]

ICJ should prove now that they are an INDEPENDENT body and doesn't make BIASED decisions under anyone influence or pressure

[@matanbar-on7566]

Nah they are completely political.

[@homolix]

exactly, they must prove that they are not just american puppets

[@crystal2484]

a majority of puppets just like those who were paid to rally, what can they do??

[@Thexppkiller]

Which means give the resolution that you like XD

[@manaralihassan7135]

they will prove what we all know... SELL OUTS

[@RyouConcord]

It's wild to me how few US news agencies even talked about this. I didn't see any of them streaming this

[@mariannegaetanopulma4077]

They don't want the people to see the truth if Israel was innocent it would live streaming on every station. What does that tell us that they know Israel is 💯 guilty of intent to Genocide

[@LR24134]

Bcz the Media is C O R R U P T

[@crystal2484]

They are hypocrite, certainly paid to not broadcast this even though they broadcasted yesterday. I have already noticed.

[@Justice-e5k]

The hearing at the court in The Hague is ridiculous to the point of stupidity. Where were they when there was genocide in Syria, Yemen, and in every country where the religion of Islam rules, including South Africa??? No one has said a word so far! Just shocking. Israel is right and justice is with them. Wait and see! South Africa took a break from being the most failed country in the world and came to educate the world ??? 🤣🤣🤣 How ridiculous can it be! . Justice is near and God will avenge the blood of the kidnapped and murdered, praying for the return of the kidnapped, and for the victory of Israel 🙏🏾. Israel in an unjust trial in The Hague.

[@_BlackSummer]

Cause the CEOS ARE ……

[@IsmailHussein-m5g]

We demand the court to look at the genocidal forgotten war in Sudan

[@reisasia]

Sure after Israeli case

[@Ivan-qf4mt]

@@reisasia ever seen ICJ? These cases take ages to finish. I'm sure they can do several at the same time with their snail pace of working on a single one.

[@emptyhad2571]

As a Sudanese I agree

[@veelindolent5794]

Yes, why didn't South Africa go to court then. Instead, they hosted the criminal. Criminals hosting other criminals.

[@reisasia]

@@Ivan-qf4mt just make the case then, if you have irrefutable evidences.

[@ilovemyolive]

He hasnt once mentioned Palestinians as civilians. He only speaks of Hammas. This proves their point that Isreal does not consider them seperate.

[@coccacat4783]

As sad as it is, the dead REAL civilians are collateral damage

[@DaniTheHero]

Most of the Palestinians are either in support or even involved with Hamas. If elections were held in the west bank TODAY, Hamas would win in a landslide. Ideologically there is almost no distinguishen.

[@raturous]

You're proving his point there bud 😂

[@DaniTheHero]

The majority of Palestinians are either supporting or acting along side Hammas.

[@chungusultimate]

They're the same Its just that south africa is disingenuous

[@redemptionaxe]

The court itself is on trial

[@stellabrown909]

Yes it is…let’s see how they handle this.

[@angelahaye5483]

Don’t be ridiculous- such a corny soundbite.

[@maribellelebre6809]

Excellent observation.

[@laxkhat]

This!!

[@theredseventhousand]

Good observation. The World awaits...

[@jamesdarrylgoldsmith5058]

A person or group shouldn't have the right to go into someone's home country and take over the property of that person or peoples belongings.

[@zevspitz8925]

Complain to the Arab imperialist settler-colonialists of the 7th century.

[@LinaGingerian]

@@zevspitz8925 7th century ? what a joke

[@janwedeler828]

YES 75 year long apartheid, 56 year long occupation, 16 year long blockade of Gaza and now committing genocide. Pure evil.

[@psmorgan2542]

Not if they consider it the perfect actions committed by the perfect person universally and timelessly

[@psmorgan2542]

Not if they consider it the perfect actions committed by the perfect person universally and timelessly

[@anon5041]

Israel is responding about Hamas but the charges are about Palestinian civilians.

[@johnsantos3392]

Oh get real

[@RockaRollaSteel]

One and the same.

[@Iftiinshide]

@@RockaRollaSteel So you mean the palestinians civilians( children, elderly, man and women) are ligitimate military targets?

[@anomaliesanonymous]

@anon5041 why not TRY to listen to the proceedings?? They explicitly state the efforts that they've made and achieved in mitigating loss of civilian life. Even for your own sake listen to what they're saying you can make an informed argument you just sound dumb otherwise

[@clariskitty7525]

@@anomaliesanonymous spreading pamphlet for hospital to flee in 24 hours is next to impossible, especially the fact that the place they're going to is bombed as well. They don't have nowhere safe to run. Think man

[@burned_out2419]

this wasn’t even about hamas it was about the killing of the civilians

[@MichaelEric-ob8kd]

My apologies, non suffering across the world 🌍

[@jeffallan6866]

it is all about Hamas killing their own civilians, They instigated these terrible atrocities willfully knowing the destruction it will cause among its civilians.

[@yasmeenaafzal4465]

This case is a litmus test for ICJ.

[@shaistahkhan8746]

I just hope and pray icj doesn’t let us down too !

[@ikechukwuokafor4092]

It's not a litmus test for the ICJ as it implies that if it rules against the side you're supporting then its suddenly bias, the ICJ has proven itself time and time again to be fair and impartial so let's just wait for their ruling.

[@hassaanawan367]

Icj is on the payroll of the juiceeeee

[@elililiausiri9565]

But why SOUTH AFRICA?

[@elililiausiri9565]

I like the car "without an engine" 😮

[@pakkarim]

Most of the world had seen the genocide as it happened, life. How it happened. Who did it and who suffered for it.

[@alcaponemafia]

YOU DID NOT MENTION WHO CAUSED IT?> WHO ARE YOU REFERRING TO??

[@Famiabduletifnegeho-vv2rb]

Availability and non availability of the justice system will identify from the south African case to the UN justice system. This is a big test and examination to the functionality of UN highest courts of justice

[@Ivan-qf4mt]

Or maybe one day you'll have to do some introspection instead of blaming institutions for not catering to your views?

[@MustardSkaven]

Yeah if this is a proper court, it will throw out the genocide accusation.

[@Ra_dia_II]

@@Ivan-qf4mt These are not personal views , get out of your echo chamber and see what Gazans are going through

[@skrapycoco7]

@@Ra_dia_II You need evidence for to be directed and targeted genocide... If there are none, It will be marked as unfortunate casualties of war which is probably the reality of Israel-Hamas war

[@dadodado9023]

​@@MustardSkavenridiculous than they might as well deny holocaust

[@dr.g3860]

Both yesterday's and today's arguments were each 3 hours long and it's clear the vast majority of commenters haven't listened to them, at least in their entirety. It is a time commitment, but essential to understanding this case.

[@avoidable69]

yea, its sad how people think they are qualified to talk, while watching only the first 10 minutes.

[@MrMustafaJE]

Agree

[@somethingwitty3647]

Don't forget reading the South African written statements submitted. I haven't been able to find the Israeli ones (if there are any). What I can say is that South Africa's arguments are pretty.... bad. They don't make sense in terms of the law, prima facie they have not disclosed the requirements for finding genocide (frankly, I don't think they disclosed a reasonable cause of action to go with their claim), and it was not well argued. It's pretty laughable

[@hadronoftheseus8829]

@@somethingwitty3647 I think you've adopted the onus quote a substantial passage from one of these arguments you allege to be bad. It should take you very little time, and it's the bare minimum follow through, given what you've already written.

[@hadronoftheseus8829]

@@avoidable69 I'm just under an hour in, and thus far I've heard exactly nothing that even faintly resembles an argument. This is not hyperbole. Literally nothing whatsoever.

[@guusvandermeulen7210]

Galit Raguan said at 2:04:20 "there is no limit on food and water and ..... that can be brought into Gaza". This can easily be categorized as a lie.

[@shayel9332]

It is not. The fact that the food, water and fuel do not reach the citizens is because Hamas steals everything 🙂

[@DianelosGeorgoudis]

Her statement starts with "Israel says" which may be true.

[@MufasaVoid]

So where is your proof that the opposite is the case ?

[@guusvandermeulen7210]

@@DianelosGeorgoudis, Galit said "Israel has public stated repeatedly that there is no limit on the amount of food, water, shelter or medical supplies that can be brought into Gaza." I categorize the part "there is no limit on the amount of food, water, shelter or medical supplies that can be brought into Gaza." as a lie.

[@Carlito84Qc]

@@guusvandermeulen7210 If you're not on the terrain, you can't know

[@brownmwangome7816]

This should have been decided on Syria, Sudan, Rwanda and other countries that witnessed such atrocities as a lead example on the court ruling, otherwise the outcome may not impact decisions taken by aligned members.

[@AnnetjiePocock]

Yes yes said the same Zimbabwe too the Hooties and Tootsies tooo🇿🇦🤫

[@emanuelg1892]

South africa did have a case of genocide in their own country years ago

[@jimpaea5473]

​@@emanuelg1892even now against white farm owners

[@wcsj]

​@@emanuelg1892Bring back the old South Africa

[@madgavin7568]

@@emanuelg1892 South Africa failed their legal obligation to arrest Sudanese dictator Omar al-Bashir when it was found he committed genocide in Darfur after he repeatedly entered the country.

[@stephenmackay9762]

Let's remember the hostages killed holding a white flag. The general killing is without discrimination and not following the acts of war. This makes genocide a real possibility & the case valid.

[@Eagles_Hunter]

You are referring to the Israelis hostages killed by Israelis soldiers?

[@yourmumcallsmedad]

@@Eagles_Hunteryea

[@fernandohein5592]

Let's remenber the terrorists with White flags exploding themselfs on soldiers either?

[@MartinChibanda]

The Israelis making a mistake with friendly fire and unintentionally killing hostages will not strengthen this case. Battles in a war are unlike most people can imagine. There is "The Fog of War"! When you are fighting there is a level of chaos, confusion, emotion and often one's values and being are challenged to the core. Mistakes can happen due to plenty of factors like poor visibility, momentary panic or a host of other factors.

[@Eagles_Hunter]

@@MartinChibanda You are right. But this is not the case here.

[@Olivetree80]

Israel didn't respond to the accusations and South Africa never defended Hamas, but clearly condemned them. Not I'm surprised, that's all they can do in this scenario.

[@leavesinautumn5959]

There's no defending the indefensible, they've just thrown out excuses.

[@hadronoftheseus8829]

I'm about an hour in as I type this comment, and I honestly find it hard to believe that such a spotlessly perfect vacuum of nonargument can possibly be maintained for three hours.

[@leavesinautumn5959]

@@hadronoftheseus8829 You're not sitting through the whole thing in one go are you? We've (our governments at least) not questioned much of what Israel does before. Not really. They've never had to have a strong argument, up till now, so it's unsurprising they don't have one here. Since it can't plausibly be argued that they (Israel) won on merit,, I'm interested to see how the court will rule on the matter.

[@hadronoftheseus8829]

@@leavesinautumn5959 No, I left off at about 1:30:00, and will probably watch the rest tomorrow just so I can honestly claim to have done so. I'm not really expecting it to get any better, but at the same time I am quite _genuinely_ shocked at how bad Israel's defense is thus far. I'm not saying that for rhetorical effect, I literally mean that what I've heard thus far vividly confounds my very real expectation that I'd at least hear something that rises to the level of the superficially specious. I was _not_ expecting what could be described - without the slightest hyperbole - as the complete and utter absence of any argument whatsoever.

[@leavesinautumn5959]

@@hadronoftheseus8829 Then I'd not suggest you follow the story from their end, via Israeli domestic media. If their presentation at the ICJ has you flummoxed, not sure how you'll cope with that. They've out and out said they'll ignore the verdict at the ICJ, so one has to question just how much effort they're putting into their defence.

[@H12sS1]

South Africa 's argument yesterday was very strong .Thank You South Africa for standing with oppressed .

[@volkardlokisson6292]

Standing orders: "Attack only military targets." Netanyahu: "All Palestinians are militants and valid targets." Lawyer for IL defense at the ICJ: "Standing orders say this, and this is what they have done." Redefining non-combatants as combatants does not excuse genocide!

[@artysanmobile]

No. Of course it doesn’t.

[@IsamuDyson]

Netanyahu: "All Palestinians are militants and valid targets." Care to provide a source?

[@kris8997]

Natanyahu never said that 😂

[@dmitrygorbunov9219]

Hmm, when did Netanyahu say that?

[@niamcd6604]

I feel so ASHAMED of the UK providing lawyers to deny Genocide yet again. HOW CAN THEY? IT'S ATROCIOUS.

[@AlbertGuilmont]

Basically, Israel asked ICJ for the right to revenge in biblical style.

[@the_beast_and_the_sovereign]

A completely pathetic "defense." • Nothing Hamas did is an argument against the case made by South Africa. • Hamas is acting in response to the ongoing occupation, so the argument made at 19:00 regarding a "right to defense" doesn't apply, it is not "self-defense" when you are the aggressor upholding a decades-long blockade and military occupation. • Genocide is a crime with a specific legal definition under the Rome Statute, it's not based on vibes. "But it was invented because the Holocaust" is not an argument, the argument needs to focus on the provisions of the statute and explain how the quotes laid out by South Africa don't constitute intent, and the actions laid out by South Africa don't constitute follow-through of that intent.

[@Kingkoo2]

the president of Israel said that all Palestinians are guilty . quoting Netanyahu on the 10th is nonsense

[@marirafaeli748]

Did u see how the population of gaza celebrated on October 7th? Did u see how they paraded and came in thousands when israel kid hostages were being released? Do i need to remind u that 75% of the population elected hamas? Now they cry…. Should have thought twice.

[@neilnicoll9444]

​@@marirafaeli748you do realize the last election took place in 2006, and nearly half of the gazan population is under 18; the majority of the current population didn't even vote in that election

[@GraniteInTheFace]

​@@marirafaeli748shekel shills alert

[@GraniteInTheFace]

​@@neilnicoll9444half of current population wasn't even born before then. Most Palestinian are under 16 yrs old.

[@73chenj]

​@@marirafaeli748"If you live in a country where other people voted for other people who commited crimes, you should be punished for the same crime" -Israeli logic

[@pilartamtam]

When you have to base your defense on formal errors that were made when submitting the accusations, then you know that there is nothing substantial you have to defend yourself.

[@MufasaVoid]

The defense is very clear. Hamas started all this. How can you justify hamas who build attack stations for a mosque.. a mosque and even hospitals come on. How can you justify this ?. What would you do if you where a nation in context. If you had a bacteria I your body and you treat it does that mean you have harmed the bacteria population ?. What are your actual arguments. . Isreal to stop defending itself. This is war . Hamas shoots rockets too. Its too bad they are not as good as jsreal in war. If they knew they would complain this much then why start a war... is seems clear that hamas has always planned to use the Palestinian citizens as shield not isreal.

[@alexanderkaplan8906]

Absurd. Every lawyer knows that you have to present both procedural and substantive points, which is exactly what Israel has done. Don't go to law school - you will be hopeless as a lawyer.

[@Frogbait935]

This is not a defense...it is a justification plea...🙄

[@bronwenewens1198]

The inane comments made by non-lawyers make want to alternately laugh and cry.

[@GeirgeSmith]

​@alexanderkaplan8906 the first guy rambles for 30 minutes about things irrelevant to the case. He then lies saying south Africa has no interest in hamas. When South Africa clearly stated in their case that the only reason they are not suing hamas is because the convention statute does not allow for them to do so as hamas is not a signing state of the convention...

[@wesleysiame6996]

As a person who is coming from south africa Zambia in particular, I would say Israel needs our support in fighting against hamas . Israel is right in defending its territory even when that means wiping Gaza who played a role on the genocide done against Israel on october 7th. lets be realistic here , what do you think Israel should do after losing more than 1200 lives in a space of an hour, humiliated by Gaza . SouthAfrica should not speak for the rest of us, when Ukrain was invaded they blammed the victim and they doing the same with Israel, it seems someone is telling southafrica whom to support and its clear. Shame RSA

[@rickagfoster]

Maybe this court should explain how to remove Hamas? No? Didn’t think so. So the international community is to allow Hamas to continuously attack Israel and not allow Israel to ever declare or execute a war for fear of any collateral damage would be labelled artificially as “genocide”.

[@therealsedna]

What did he say at 29:00? Israel is in Gaza for the propose of protecting the people? Seriously? That’s an unprecedented twist on settler colonialism and occupation. Why don’t we ask them, all Palestinians how well you are protecting them and if they want you too keep protecting them. Oh sorry you meant you are protecting their natural oil and gas resources? From themselves? Because you know what to do with that money and they don’t? Got it! US had been ‘protecting’ oil and gas on behalf of Britain and EU in many countries and not just that.

[@סוזנהוקסלר]

Rip barbarian islam forever!👹🤮

[@therealsedna]

@@סוזנהוקסלרhahahaha what? Do your parents know you are using their phone? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@סוזנהוקסלר]

@@therealsedna Talk about this with son of hamas, he will tell you trouth.....!

[@sabrinamazouz5673]

Here we go again they’re playing the victim & putting all the blame on hamas i cant even watch the whole video

[@solochica81]

Same here

[@DaniTheHero]

They have dismantled every past and possibly future point SA could make. The fact that this case even reached Hague is an embarrassment.

[@mariamsuliman6035]

@@DaniTheHerothat’s just hogwash. This has put the ICJ to the test of its very purpose.

[@XmXm999]

This won’t end well for HAMAS! They might be charged of Genocide!

[@amsams2716]

Imagine for a second the fate of remaining Palestinians both in Gaza and the West Bank if Israel wins this court case. It will be like a green light for Israel...

[@סוזנהוקסלר]

This is the problem of terrorists in gaza! They started war without think about their children...!

[@eking657]

Or… Imagine everything you believe about Israel is …. Incorrect

[@סוזנהוקסלר]

Golda Meir said : " If palestinians mothers loverd their children more , then they are hated our children, there was always peace....! Bright words!💪🙏🇮🇱💗

[@endlesssolitaire731]

For the West Bank nothing will change (Israel already lifted even the restrictions to work in Israeli territories for them). In Gaza Palestinians will return and rebuild with a lot of international aid, elect a new government obsessed with elimination of Israel and the cycle will repeat. This happened many times and this will repeat as long as Israel and both Palestinian governments will become interested in the long-term peace which now couldn't be said about any of them.

[@theredseventhousand]

"Ive lost the page..." That is the ultimate metaphor for this defense 😂😂😂

[@kindGSL]

Plus he is boring as heck.

[@gargoylz100]

@@kindGSLbrevity is the soul of wit 🤫

[@kenfernanadez3110]

Cannot square a circle - cannot make of a series of dry, unsubstantive, pure ramblings, a solid defence, because such is not even possible

[@rabbiahilmi]

There is absolutely no evidence for the nonsense he is sprouting... It's not a defense of the allegation

[@unknownhuman7919]

They can buy the LAW of humans but not LAW of the Nature .

[@LR24134]

Exactly💯💯💯👍👍👍

[@bakalito4601]

Maybe no one wants to buy the law of nature?

[@wwabete2009]

True! The Law of Karma has never changed and will never change!

[@MohamedKrar]

It's a test for the human conservation

[@uraniumDC]

It is Allah's wills. Anything that happens are because of allah's will. And this time, it is allah's wills that cause the the catastrophic losses to the palestinians.

[@elzabethmcarthur3154]

This is where we find out if the world is damned. Or will humanity prevail.

[@Carlito84Qc]

newsflash, win or lose, they won't stop until the hostages are free, even though it's almost certain it will get thrown out since south africa can't prove intent.

[@maribellelebre6809]

Picture of incubators provided…With the electricity cut off!?!!? They had incubators !!! They needed electricity to power them!!!

[@loliiwitt]

Why should Israel give them free electricity if they attacked them?

[@loliiwitt]

If they wouldn't use all their money on terror they would have enough electricity and water lol

[@aloiforetz5939]

South Africa should also take to the ICJ the Hamas genocide which was committed on the 7th October. All anti Israel nations will get nothing from this ICJ, Israel will never back down

[@wheeltwavel]

They're logic is, that if one of your relatives is a criminal then they all are criminals. The other logic is, you're a terrorist if someone steals your home, kills your family and oppresss your family for decades. And you fight back.

[@H12sS1]

South Africa 's argument yesterday was stronger than this one.

[@12315yh]

Not even close

[@ddcohen9720]

Have you been to South Africa? You like living behind walls and barbed wire fences? The crime is insane in Jhb glad I left years ago to USA

[@SethuNtshuntshe]

Thank God you left because we people of South Africa are not bombed and killed like flies. Yes, crime is there, but there is no war here.

[@MufasaVoid]

How is it stronger. Let's debate

[@nicoleshacknofsky7037]

In your dreams - shows how Much you understand

[@Jibonando2023-xr5il]

ICJ should prove that they are an independent institutions and doesn’t make evil sides decision.

[@Carlito84Qc]

ICJ should hear each others arguments and rule according to the law. Here, fixed it for ya

[@benkhettarmohamed3178]

It's not international court of justice. It's a international court of hypocritis Thank you so much south African

[@truth2power463]

"Delegitimize Israel?" Is that his argument? How does one delegitimize something that was NEVER legitimate in the first place? Even the creation of Israel in 1947, under UN Resolution 181 was a NON-BINDING resolution. Every single thing that has been imposed on the Palestinian people BY Israel from that point in time, is defined by International law as "Illegitimate!"

[@ProballerJordan2]

Go and cry about it

[@truth2power463]

@@ProballerJordan2 Wassamatter sweetheart, does the truth irritate you?

[@MufasaVoid]

​@@truth2power463ok... do you see how isreal has grown and improved there living living diction since then. What has hamas done for its people. Since then ?. Not on development aside building tunnels under civilian buildings.

[@truth2power463]

@@MufasaVoid * Palestinians tried to return to their homes that were destroyed, but Israel Forested the land so that no further development could be achieved there. * Palestinians have no right to construct what they choose, so they cannot build anything without the permission of the Israeli government. * Palestine tries to build infrastructure for their communities, but Israel puts severe restrictions on what improvements they can make for their infrastructure, housing, and businesses. * Palestine's only communications from Gaza are monitored by Israel. * Palestine tried and continues to try to develop water filtration and purification systems for the health of their people, but the IDF destroys them and disallows them to build any other ones, then gives them barely enough clean water to survive. * Palastine tries to manage its own gas fields just 20 miles off the coast of Gaza, but Israel confiscates the profits and hordes all the gas to themselves, then rations it to Gaza. * Palestine tries to set up its schools and manage its own education, but the settler colonial project of Israel controls the entire Palestinian education system across all East Jerusalem and Gaza, putting strict prohibitions on what can be taught. * Palestinians cannot travel, even from Gaza to the West Bank without written permission from Israel, even in cases of medical emergencies. So, please, ask your ridiculous question again.

[@Rayadogs10]

Look at the class and professionalism delivered by South Africa in comparison to the gaslighting, lying ,bad acting, and unprofessionalism by the Israelis

[@סוזנהוקסלר]

Rip barbarian islam forever👹🤮

[@rabbitmmms]

This is interesting. Israel seems to be claiming that it’s not genocide bc Hamas is a terrorist group and this is a war. So ICJ needs to basically define what is acceptable in war

[@moniquesmith3236]

On the premise Israel are being accused perhaps Britain are guilty in WW11 bombing Germany. More Germans were killed than in UK. Do you honestly think Britain would have a cease fire for humanitarian movement in Germany. Do you think would provide food, water & electricity...of course not. Sadly in war there are casualties that's a given fact.

[@diginilo855]

Hamas is the elected government ... this means Hamas is the army of the goverment

[@MohamedKrar]

​@@diginilo855 Not sure... Gaza and yet all Palestine is under the occupied land

[@jonomar]

@@MohamedKrar under hammas control

[@MohamedKrar]

@@jonomar Nope... Do they have an airport... Do they have a sovereignty of there land ... Israel is the occuping authority in Gaza strip and west bank .... Being a fail state... This is other thing

[@OliverFlinn]

I love how they didnt adress anything SA said

[@robby6066]

What is the end goal of this “self-defense”? How many civilians need to die for Israel to safe again? I’m 1.5 hours into the video but I don’t get how you can keep killing people for the sake of self-defense without “defining” what achieving this goal would look like..

[@margaretthoutenhoofd833]

Texting people who are literally running down roads with every thing they own with terrified children and old people,where do they charge their phones if they have one.I hope the judges will see through the lies and corruption of Israel

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

"We will waste 80 percent of our reply on making claims completely irrelevant to the complainant's case, and accuse them of 'obscuring the context of October 7' in our response in Gaza, while our government is obscuring the context of our 75-year treatment of the Palestinians in what happened on October 7 all the time". A winning claim for sure.

[@madgavin7568]

It is relevant actually, because it shows Israel's actions are justified in that they are fighting against a terrorist organization and disproves the notion that Israel is somehow deliberately attacking defenceless civilians. There is no genocide in Palestine, to argue that is to cheapen the word and accusation to the point of meaninglessness. Is every war a genocide now?

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

@@madgavin7568 Saying "X happened on October 7" does not show anything and does not disprove anything. I don't know who you think you are going to fool with this kindergarten-level non-logic.

[@rational-l1m]

stop genocide in Gaza ...

[@bohdanaHorsova]

Committing war crimes is not self defense.

[@sajaic4969]

It is astounding that people are more concerned about intellectual bravado and presentation of imagery than moral courage. It is wild what we're defending in so called modern times!!

[@christinasavopoulos8303]

👆🏽

[@joseki6644]

Who cares, everyone there sees it on KZbin

[@jeffhanscom8226]

After hearing the rhetoric of Hamas’ leadership, did we even need an ICJ hearing?

[@LA-cm9uo]

I just can't wrap my head around this. Why aren't any Hamas members brought to court?

[@khamiti]

why would it take south africa to stand for palestinians when we have the Arab neighbours affluent with oil money and armed to the teeth!???

[@napw81]

All these photos were taken by IDF. N we all know how reliable IDF is at reporting their own mistake and crime

[@nonoyesh]

They are in cort and they have to give legal and truthful photos. Maybe you watched too many movies that your mind doesn't work by itself.

[@davidzisu6289]

“We all know” 😅

[@ashmapatel4106]

Lies, lies and more lies….

[@סוזנהוקסלר]

Go to gaza and see there truth...!

[@And-h5g]

We stand with Israel against terrorist Hamas and against South Africa's complicity with Hamas terrorists.

[@futurecct]

This woman is lying in. Real time. As a former JTAc I am qualified to call in air strikes from every single military platform. She is showing images captured from UAVs. Why not show the entire video of the actual action. Why only show a still image. I addition what she is saying is every home that was struck by missiles bombs and artillery was and is a military site in active combat those facts don’t match the actual videos that have come out of Gaza. Furthermore. Having the videos and live stream would mean you would see civilians in the structures and thus making the strikes ILLEGAL.

[@paulacottrell3858]

A lot of what Israel had to say was a mere deflection of their responsibilities as a leading power. They failed to address the displacement of Palestinians in Gaza (which I note is happening outside of Gaza as well), and failed to take responsibility over their attack against fleeing Palestinians in zones that they themselves deemed “safe”. Eventually, they ran out of arguments and began to dig into “technicalities” of the proceeding and not at all addressing the Genocidal claims towards the end.

[@MufasaVoid]

Who's fault is that?

[@nicoleshacknofsky7037]

😂😂😂😂😂 joke

[@maggiemagala2319]

Fleeing HAMAS camouflaging as civilians. Have you seen any uniformed HAMAS combatant since?

[@uraniumDC]

​​​@@maggiemagala2319That's true. Hamas always claims that the victims were always women and children. The question is, where are their men? Their men are hamas members who use civilians clothes and they attacked the Israelis. Even their women and children are given the eduaction to hate the Israelis. Another question arises from that is "why do the need to inculcate hatred among their citizens towards the Israelis?". The next question is, "can you live in peace when you are full of hated towards your neighbours?"

[@paulmartin4139]

“This is how our army works…”. - 23,000 civilian fatalities, primarily children and women!

[@marshalbali]

40.000*

[@fijiboy]

Why no men are being counted? Has anyone said how many HAMAS fighters are dead? Hamas only wants to say women and children so that the world can feel for them and degrade Israel

[@Tiyya988]

Even if Israel wins the case with all that the power that they have, the world will not forget what Israel did and is doing to Gaza! 😢 Israel is insulting the world with their lies but we are not fools

[@bedo6709]

Shamefull enough not mentioning about ICJ news for mainstream media... The same may happen to social media if they go on using algobots that much..

[@AisalAIsal-l7h]

World wants justice!!

[@Rootcauses451]

With such a dismal defense by Israel you better believe that ICJ is on trial.

[@docdynamix]

Lets Hope the court can be unbiased and honest and deliver the RIGHT verdict . 🤞

[@DavidCP524]

You’re so partisan it’s pathetic.

[@OliverFlinn]

The right verdict is obviously ruling that israel is indeed doing genocide

[@cecilepham7357]

The war didn't start on Oct 7. The war began even before 1948. This explains all why Oct 7 happened. Period. Who started ethnic cleansing killings and apartheid first ? Not the Palestinians as far as the world knows

[@KKMS1]

Which countries started the war against Israel to annihilate it after Israel’s founding?

[@trompel1]

Each one's case and delivery became weaker and more demented ....these are evil people living in delusional hubris..

[@johnlim1678]

Africa= Why Hamas still holding hostages? why why why?

[@KKMS1]

1. To protect the leadership.

[@virginiatierney408]

Hamas has been asking for a ceasefire to exchange the rest of the hostages for months now. Israel has refused to quit bombing for even this period of serious reflection, showing a foul farting in the face of the International community.

[@amalliapradistha1629]

to make Israel stop bombing their people. so Why IDF keep on bombing, shooting civillians , even they raised the white flag. why why why?

[@MohamedKrar]

They holding mostly soliders

[@trivialqed]

why does Israel imprision palestinians without trial indefinitely? why why why?

[@ben-g314]

South Africa made fools of themselves...

[@angiedee255]

The world doesn't agree with you, seems

[@brandyalvarez3239]

Sounds like a bunch of technicalities. Find a diplomatic solution. Regardless of the findings of the court... The world is telling Israel to stop. As an American, I definitely can say that involvement isn't in our interests. End the forever wars, withhold support, and leave the middle east. Most Americans don't want tax dollars going to fuel the mic...

[@LinaGingerian]

@brandyalvarez3239 Amen to that,, we should vote out all politicians who support this. 32 trillion in deficit and we pumping billions into this.

[@shooster5884]

Minimise civilian targets.. Like the poor grandmother walking down an empty street holding the hand of her young grandchild as part of a small group of people evacuating as ordered by the IDF - and her shot dead in the middle of the street by a sniper? Or the 8 year old boy who was shot in the back of the head and killed instantly while running home with several other children

[@davidnilsson5045]

[Citation needed]

[@nllll1109]

@@davidnilsson5045the videos speak for themselves hun

[@waiwaidaily]

You call Hamas a terrorist organization and expect them to behave like a state! You consider yourself a democratic state yet behave like a terrorist organization!

[@Potkettleblack1703]

If it's so easy to become a state terrorist. The Palestinian should have declare their states, become signatory to the Genocide convention.... It's so easy, ryt?

[@fatimaahmed7271]

The audacity to commit purgery in the ICJ

[@anitasimon2233]

Israel too has the right to exist..whoever touches Israel touches the Apple of God's eye. The God of Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps. Long live the mighty nation of Israel.

[@juliacarranza8260]

This young woman needs to spend some time in Gaza to understand the horrendous circumstances its people are going through.

[@YariYari09]

In all actuality he’s describing everything Israel is doing but replaced it with “Hamas”.

[@YariYari09]

@@SonOfGod0600 actually sounded like he was gonna cry. He deserves an Oscar 😂😂😂

[@MohamedKrar]

​​@@SonOfGod0600 Say that to your self first ....

[@zevspitz8925]

No Israeli has received a single leaflet or SMS from Hamas warning about a planned rocket attack. Israel has not received a single bottle of water from Hamas. Just two examples.

[@angiedee255]

@@SonOfGod0600 yes 25000 decimated bodies, facts hurt

[@terenceoakes4244]

WHAT HISTORY GOT TO DO WITH THIS GENOCIDE

[@MrJossynock]

SA is a total disgrace!

[@ethiostatfoshe]

The Court should lay its eyes on the Ethiopian regime for its heinous crimes against civil Ethiopians.

[@pardismack]

OMG all the stories they're telling are already proven to be false, yet they keep on repeating them.

[@paultanganyika5907]

From the way she is breathing; her conscious is telling her that genocide is being done but stubbornness is carrying her on.... after this she will never be normal.

[@whatdoyoucallthis]

clown after clown after clown

[@hayleydanhirschfeld4862]

So what, Israel should just send Hamas a strongly worded letter saying "naughty murdering rapists, please dont do that again".?

[@ArberKastrati-x5t]

Respect for South Africa ❤️ respect 🙏 God bless you and the people of South Africa ❤️

[@sjg9887]

I really thought Israel would bring something more than their TV talking points. Basically saying yes we did what we are acused of, but they made us do it! Hjamas Hjjjjamas Hjamas.. they are grasping at straws it is embarrassing. I used to understand Israel a bit more in this issue but they are completely indefensible now.

[@madgavin7568]

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt mate lmao. Hamas is to blame for what's happening in Gaza, there is no genocide.

[@sjg9887]

If someone kills their mother because she didnt get them a playstation for Christmas, and you think that is a good reason to kill their mother, would you say that "there was no murder"? Just because you think a horrible act is justified, does not mean it didnt happen. Personally I dont think what Hamas did justifies the murder of 12K children in just 3 months. But even if I did, I wouldnt be dumb enough to make the argument that because of this, the killing of those children didnt happen.That argument is simply an error of logic. @@madgavin7568

[@Witchlinblue]

I cant listen to these lies anymore.

[@Lmbl24180]

To avoid Israel to stop war, not by ONLY TALK and Accuses. Why cant UN process the freedom of hostages inside tunnels? Free them, do not forget them, otherwise Israel will never stop to free their own citizen. South Africa? Look after own suffering citizens in cruel ghetto condition

[@fh4595]

One child with blood on its hands when asked “did you do this?” Points his bloody finger to the dead body “his fault!”.

[@nonoyesh]

The hands of Hamas

[@MohamedKrar]

​@@nonoyesh I think he mean Israel the occuping state.... ❤Free Plantain ❤

[@fh4595]

@@nonoyesh exactly my point 🤣 when israeli government answers to their genocide, they can just point to holocaust or hamas. They take no responsibility for their own actions. But always hide…

[@vilmaortega8450]

Sud Africa doesn"t know anything about what is happening in Gaza. Israel just defended itself, and everyone must condemn Hamas is it a terrible action what they have done to Israel

[@dh88k]

Israel had a chance to defend itself on oct 7th and failed. The deliberate attempt at destructing a people has nothing to do with defending itself.

[@Justice4PeaceNow]

If it's a war then where is the Palestine's military? Who is fighting for the Palestinians? It's an Occupation which they keep denying.

[@AlexSavillePhoto]

Who do you think Hamas are?!? Government and militia. Only they don’t follow any rules, they just exploit gullibility.

[@Justice4PeaceNow]

@AlexSavillePhoto International community labeled them as a terrorist organization, so they can't be the official military for Palestine. However, then Palestine has been in existence way before Israel's creation, so what happened to their military power to protect the sovereignty of Palestine??

[@mandlas.4305]

What will break Israel is their Prime Minister's words, their president's words, defense minister's words and a far right Knesset's MP's words.

[@geralyned9530]

Period. Unequivocally. He lies with incredible ease.

[@Mohideen979]

3 hours of getting sick to the stomach from all the lies and false accusations

[@cubancucumber]

They spent 3 hours deflecting blame and not taking accountability. Also not even disproving the evidence South Africa so strongly gave. Cowards

[@LUCIAVA1959]

South African opening was heartbreaking while Israel’s sounds like the AD for a beauty product. 😞

[@lymitutit3046]

"""" Thursday's death ( 11-01-24) brought to 343 the number of Palestinians killed by Israelis in the West Bank since Oct. 7, according to figures released by the Health Ministry. 241 Palestinians were killed by settlers mostly in their terror raids in Palestinians villages during the weeks after Oct 7th. 102 Palestinians were killed by IDF during the 'anti terror raids' in the main Palestinians cities . The IDF did not provide any official information for 78 killings . """"

[@chigemini4162]

Dude said "We gave them water, gas and 2 bakeries to make breads, just the other day" Thinking "Now, we look good... Might delete later" Sooo, they pretty much did it for the Gram🤦🏿‍♀️

[@סוזנהוקסלר]

Hamas even this didn't for civilians, they took everything for them!🤮👹

[@danghoangluong2942]

The ICJ needs to hold hearings about the genocidal war in Myanmar

[@shilamd1689]

There is no hamas in west bank. Why west bank people have to face the same atrocity and apartheid like gaza?

[@Potkettleblack1703]

Wrong. Hamas is in the west bank. They've launched suicide bombing in the past and recently. If the west bank is not complicit, why were they celebrating genocide on October 7 th. Ah! Genocide is okay when it is not happening to them?

[@RenyH716]

There is hamas in west bank

[@MohamedKrar]

Being a vectim some decades is not an excuse fom making crime and killing children with cold blood

[@matsinilsson9578]

As a neutral observer, this is very strong case (also expected) and there is no way one can or should confuse 'genocide' with a defence war. Why waste the court's time even?

[@aneeskhan9714]

Lol neutral my #$%

[@aneeskhan9714]

Also a born liar?

[@matsinilsson9578]

@@aneeskhan9714 What on Earth are you talking about and supply proper citations if you are to attempt trolling.

[@angiedee255]

have you looked the SA presentation ?

[@therealsedna]

1:22:00 so occupiers with the best military in the world and the most deadly weapons are at risk of genocide by enslaved imprisoned and oppressed people with no arms and army. And you are implying South Africa is ‘complicit’ in the genocide against the occupier settler colonialist…. Are you disrespecting the plight of the South African people and their history where they fought for freedom from the very oppressors like yourselves? Nelson Mandela was considered a terrorist by the US, Britain and the other colonialist war crime countries you listed. Turns out he wasn’t. Are you willing to go down that road now with South Africa?