ISRAEL-USA | A Collapsing Alliance?

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Prof James Ker-Lindsay

Prof James Ker-Lindsay

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@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
This is another topic I’ve wanted to cover for ages. The relationship between Israel and the United States is fascinating in all sorts of ways and has a somewhat less straightforward history than many realise. But how should we understand the current tensions? Is the rift deeper or shallower than it seems? And should the US continue to bear the diplomatic burden of supporting Israel if this Israeli Government (or a future one) doesn’t make any effort to reach a comprehensive final settlement on Palestine? As always, I look forward to your comments below.
@berkosmansatiroglu
@berkosmansatiroglu 7 ай бұрын
There are very few things that upset Jews. Because they existed before BC. They are doing what is written in their holy books. You cannot understand it with Western values. I hope Uncle Sam doesn't upset the Jews any more.
@berkosmansatiroglu
@berkosmansatiroglu 7 ай бұрын
You must read The Carter Doctrine.
@SpicyTake
@SpicyTake 7 ай бұрын
13:00 With respect professor, there are plenty of signs that US support of Israel is weakening. Biden is almost certainly going to lose his re-election over this one issue. By 2028, it will be unlikely possible that any Democrat could win the presidency while supporting Israel. Even support within the Republican voting base is starting to falter as evangelicalism has been in decline. American politicians have a lot of intellectual inertia. Most are not particularly savvy. Ultimately they will get the message and do what is necessary to remain in power.
@NoName-semi-censored
@NoName-semi-censored 7 ай бұрын
All US federal political offices must pass several tests before receiving monetary compensation from a foreign government. Pledge allegiance to said foreign nation without question. And in return - receive two things… Political campaign donations, and not being labeled as antisemitic… Failure to pay homage to Israel as a U.S. federal politician means being labeled antisemitic - and actively promoting your political opponents. Basically ending your political career. The relationship is basically blackmail and reward. And it’s all out in the open and legal.
@FlamingBasketballClub
@FlamingBasketballClub 7 ай бұрын
Iceland Men's National Football Team won 4-1 against Israel in Euro 2024 playoffs last month. That's a massive win for the integrity of football. 👊🏿
@ZezimaTruth
@ZezimaTruth 7 ай бұрын
So many issues started with Britain.
@EdMcF1
@EdMcF1 7 ай бұрын
Railways, Michael Faraday's discoveries, stamping out the Atlantic Slave Trade, the laws of gravity, Industry, yes.
@oldgreybeard2507
@oldgreybeard2507 7 ай бұрын
Remember that the division of the Middle East was a joint French British venture. The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must. Thucydides
@KapiteinKrentebol
@KapiteinKrentebol 7 ай бұрын
It started with people smoking way too much pot and getting crazy ideas of religion approx. 5000 years ago.
@memofromessex
@memofromessex 7 ай бұрын
Penicillin, world wide web, the steam engine, evolution, vaccination, animal rights, conservation, telegraph, football, rugby, tennis, abolishing the slave trade of East Africa, ending of Sati, the defeat of an autocratic Germany twice, the defeating Napoleon, defeating Russia in the Crimea, liberating South America from Spanish tyranny, liberation of Portugal from the Muslims, Reflecting Telescope, the seed drill, abolishing slavery in West Africa, Bill of Rights, Habeas Corpus, the British Parliament, computer programming, cricket, whiskey, polio vaccine, the modern concept of Human Rights, etc. etc. Just think of the millions and millions people have freed from the shackles of slavery thanks to Britain's opposition to the slave trade - a trade that preceded the Atlantic Slave trade by thousands of years, and no doubt would still be an industry today. Or would have died without Britain's leading the way in medical advancements.
@billybrooks3780
@billybrooks3780 7 ай бұрын
The Ottoman Empire planted the Zionist seed by starting the immigration of Zionists to what is the land of Palestine/Israel, the British watered it and the Americans pruned it.
@inam8473
@inam8473 7 ай бұрын
So what I observed is that Israel has only faced crticism and nothing else for its illegal activities for the past 70 years and uptil today aswell
@lapun47
@lapun47 7 ай бұрын
While Palestinian violence toward Israelis has received no criticism at all.
@AntiDegenerate1971
@AntiDegenerate1971 7 ай бұрын
​@@lapun47 Palestinians are oppressed though, it's normal for such people to lash out. If Israel treated them fairly and gave them equal rights, and stopped with the illegal settlements, the violence would stop.
@eyalnir1327
@eyalnir1327 7 ай бұрын
​@@AntiDegenerate1971 That's pretty naive and not historically accurate. Palestinian violence started before the creation of the state of Israel, 1929 Hebron massacre is one example. Previous efforts for peace resulted in Palestinian rejection and violence. Hamas themselves have a genocidal and antisemitic charter and it's the ruling authority in Gaza. I am an Israeli left winger and I do object to the settlements and the right-wing government, yet I don't think that any government action could achieve peace in the near term.
@Amélie-r7r
@Amélie-r7r 7 ай бұрын
@@eyalnir1327If you had remained in your countries of origin, Eastern Europe, and not tried to immorally colonize another people’s land and force yourself into the Middle East , none of this would have happened. You are not middle easterners, and you had and have no right to displace and dispossess another people. The holocaust didn’t happen in the Middle East, the holocaust and antisemitic pogroms in Europe, had nothing to do with Palestinians and the wider Middle East. This conflict has made it clear that you in fact belong in Europe where you are from.
@historydiscover
@historydiscover 7 ай бұрын
@@eyalnir1327 The British occupied Palestine for 30 years stating in 1917 and declared that they will make a new state for immigrants from Europe. Every other person in human history would have resisted this and Palestinians are no different than any other person in history resisting colonization. From 1947-1949 over 530 Palestinian villages were destroyed and my family are now in refugee camps all over Palestine and refugees all over Earth. I do truly enjoy seeing how people try to justify this though.
@IAmNumber4000
@IAmNumber4000 7 ай бұрын
What do people even mean when they refer to Israel's "Right to exist"? This is a state we're talking about, and a _state_ can't have rights the same way a person can. It's really starting to sound like people really mean "Israel's right to ethnically cleanse the people who were already living there". You don't have some inherent, unalienable right to steal from someone else. Edit: Israel’s leadership has clearly committed to “might makes right”, flouting international law. If someone else conquers them (I.e. Iran), what is the issue, from the moral framework they operate with? “Right to exist” is just more propaganda designed to obscure the real strategic reason why the West ships weapons to Israel. The west doesn’t have some inherent moral duty to defend Israel, if their position in the region is untenable then that’s not our responsibility, and it’s absurd to let them drag us into another war.
@purplespades9632
@purplespades9632 7 ай бұрын
Yeah,and Zionism was created by the Europeans out of xenophobia.
@g1u2y345
@g1u2y345 7 ай бұрын
The thing is the people of Israel are already there, we have to deal with the reality of the situation we live in. It is fair to say, the people of Israel have the right to self-determination. This does not mean they have the right to take Gaza or the West Bank though.
@josemaria123100
@josemaria123100 7 ай бұрын
israel project is in palestine.why they do not respect that?if you ocupied the land, you do not have the right to nothing.75 years killing palestinians and you have any right?
@humanbeing4841
@humanbeing4841 7 ай бұрын
The Arabs ethnically cleansed the Jews when Israel declared independence.
@AntiDegenerate1971
@AntiDegenerate1971 7 ай бұрын
​​@@g1u2y345 Israelis have already proved they don't wanna give up west bank or Gaza, so I believe there won't be peace because there won't be peace in the region as long as there isn't an independent Arab Palestinian nation.
@thetitansofbrahma6702
@thetitansofbrahma6702 7 ай бұрын
Your balanced and dispassionate analysis is a relief to hear in the current polarized environment. Edit: You ask for views on this. Israel and Palestine both have the “right to exist”, even if a virulent zero sum mentality seems to be gaining steam. The U.S. must remain engaged, and continue to fail to find a solution, until a solution is eventually found.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I completely agree. I support the right of Israel to exist. And I support the right of the Palestinians to have their own state. And I do still believe that the United States is a crucial actor in that process.
@flight-at-the-speed-of-light
@flight-at-the-speed-of-light 7 ай бұрын
Why does israel have the right to exist ? Is the term of 'occupation' that hard to understand ? 😖
@piotrtchaikovski6674
@piotrtchaikovski6674 7 ай бұрын
It's interesting to see the only country that interfers so clearly and openly in internal affairs in the United States isn't Russia or China but it's israel The lobbying groups have became so powerful it would be uncomfortable for anyone with power to stand against Israel
@rashathor4878
@rashathor4878 7 ай бұрын
Do the American people know about that?
@vontai4553
@vontai4553 7 ай бұрын
That’s definitely not true .. Until another country near the Suez is seen to be a reliable partner with America lobbying or not Israel will continue to see broad support from politicians
@piotrtchaikovski6674
@piotrtchaikovski6674 7 ай бұрын
@@vontai4553 are you going to ignore the effect AIPAC and ADL have on American politics? Are you going to ignore the fact the only US adversary in the region is Iran, who was a reliable partner of America until the CIA did what it's known for? Are you going to ignore reality?
@sepulcher8263
@sepulcher8263 7 ай бұрын
@@rashathor4878 Yes
@bluegold1026
@bluegold1026 7 ай бұрын
The lobbyists are the reason Biden and Congress are dragging their feet when it comes to brokering a ceasefire. Lobbying needs to be outlawed. It's corruption in all but name only.
@MrJoneschase
@MrJoneschase 7 ай бұрын
I think a lot of the younger Americans are insanely less supportive of Israel. Netanyahu and Israel lost the media battle and didn't even bother really doing anything about it. Especially, when all we're now seeing is just devastated cities in Gaza and that these people are basically trapped between Israel and Egypt with nowhere to flee. Bibi is also a major part of the problem because it's downright impossible to really like the guy based off what he says and does (Israeli polling seems to indicate they don't even like him). Anyways, as far as American public opinion goes it has been slipping for quite some time and the next generation is going to tolerate a lot less from Israel than they've become used to.
@geofflepper3207
@geofflepper3207 7 ай бұрын
Your comment is fine except that the term "insanely" is far from the best choice.
@er...
@er... 7 ай бұрын
Lost media battle because TikTok. They can't control the narrative & algorithm. That's the real reason for the ban, not "privacy." The gravity of the situation is heavily censored & sanitized on US-controlled platforms. It's not China meddling, it's US/Israel.
@er...
@er... 7 ай бұрын
The media lost the battle due to TikTok's narrative and algorithm, which they can't control. The actual reason for the ban is not "privacy," but rather this lack of control. The severity of the situation is significantly censored and sanitized on platforms controlled by the US. It's not interference from China, but from the US/Israel.
@er...
@er... 7 ай бұрын
My comment keeps disappearing, which only proves the point I was trying to make... f* youtube censorship
@er...
@er... 7 ай бұрын
Lost media cuzTikTok. Can't control narrative/algorithm. Real reason for the ban, not "privacy." The gravity of the situation is heavily censoredsanitized on US-controIIed platforms. It's not China meddling, it's USisrael.
@markdowding5737
@markdowding5737 7 ай бұрын
This is not the first UNSC resolution criticizing Israel that the US has abstained (UNSC 2334). For the last few years, there has been a pattern of when Israel escalates things the US becomes increasingly frustrated until eventually does something to show its frustration with Israel's actions. But when things calm down all sides just sort of forget everything that happened and go back to having good relations. Netanyahu might also be betting that Biden will leave the white house in the upcoming presidential elections (as most analysts predict) and wait for the return of his buddy Donald Trump who is a staunch Israel supporter.
@pedronabais1456
@pedronabais1456 5 ай бұрын
that's just cold war in a nutshell, make something agaisnt russia puppet? russia puts it down, something agaisnt europe or US? america puts it down
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 7 ай бұрын
This was a fantastic and much-needed breakdown, cutting through all the noise. Thanks as always for your tempered analysis professor!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much LocalLt. Always great to hear from you. I hope all is well at your end.
@CashSache
@CashSache 7 ай бұрын
We should remember the United States, along the United Kingdom, were the last holdouts supporting Apartheid South Africa. New century, old apartheid but the support continues.
@nataliamundell6266
@nataliamundell6266 7 ай бұрын
I would like you to research what apartheid is and then look into politics between Israel and Palestine rather then just snappy slogans
@garrettallen7427
@garrettallen7427 7 ай бұрын
OH MY GOD ITS ALMOST LIKE THOSE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW GEOPOLITICS HAVE TO BALANCE BETWEEN UNENDING INTERESTS AND CHANGING MORALITY!
@nataliamundell6266
@nataliamundell6266 7 ай бұрын
@@garrettallen7427 why all in cap locks shouting doesn't make you any smarter
@FlamingBasketballClub
@FlamingBasketballClub 7 ай бұрын
​@@nataliamundell6266 Clown world response has been spotted.
@CashSache
@CashSache 7 ай бұрын
@@nataliamundell6266 I would like you to do the same. They're at least half a dozen papers- by Palestinian, Israelis, and other human rights groups- detailing the system of Apartheid Israel has constructed. The term is not a slogan; It's descriptive.
@Mahc32
@Mahc32 7 ай бұрын
American here and don’t support US aid to Israel whatsoever
@tiredox3788
@tiredox3788 7 ай бұрын
I think you should've mentioned Russia and Israeli relationship too.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thanks. Maybe something for another video. I tend to find that trying to cram too many elements into a video only makes it confusing.
@marygrace7016
@marygrace7016 7 ай бұрын
Americans so called "special relationship" with Israel cannot break up fast enough.
@henrybn14ar
@henrybn14ar 7 ай бұрын
Why is that? How would the USA benefit?
@thomassenbart
@thomassenbart 7 ай бұрын
It won't.
@marygrace7016
@marygrace7016 7 ай бұрын
@@thomassenbart It will. Israel will to the way of Apartheid South Africa.
@marygrace7016
@marygrace7016 7 ай бұрын
@@henrybn14ar Israel is a giant burden on Americans global standing with us funding their wars and defending their indefensible.
@thomassenbart
@thomassenbart 7 ай бұрын
@@marygrace7016 You don't know your history. Apartheid did not end because of boycotts, which S. Africa resisted quite easily. It ended when the white regime decided to end it. This probably happened because de Klerk wanted to avoid open bloodshed. In retrospect, many S. Africans probably regret the decision which led to the ANC and black power in the country. Since then, the nation has basically become a quasi-failed state.
@hugowilliams1988
@hugowilliams1988 7 ай бұрын
US has been used for 70 years and didn't know it.
@brendasmart553
@brendasmart553 7 ай бұрын
The people have known it!
@Aschraffff
@Aschraffff 7 ай бұрын
They know, and love being used.
@Melia_67
@Melia_67 7 ай бұрын
Each and every US president not matter democrat or republican has always put the interest of Israel over the US…. Very bizarre and I wonder why..
@RobertPaulsen-gk8qc
@RobertPaulsen-gk8qc 7 ай бұрын
the United States breaks its own laws (Leahy Law and Symington Amendment) to give billions to an apartheid state running frequent budget surpluses. American aid to Israel is immoral, illegal, and unnecessary.
@aussiviking604
@aussiviking604 7 ай бұрын
😂 You mean they been making a motza for 75years. Israel is extremely profitable for the cartel. That business 👌
@KC_G4S
@KC_G4S 7 ай бұрын
Great video, one small nitpick: the photo used at 5:50 is of C-17 Globemaster III aircraft facing the camera, which did not enter service until 1995. Additionally, all aircraft are sporting USAF Air Mobility Command’s gray paint livery, which was introduced after the Gulf War. All of this is to say this photo couldn’t have been from an operation in 1973. Searching around it appears the Nixon Foundation made this mistake first, which is where I assume the error originates. Again, great video overall, just a slight nitpick.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Haha! Thanks. Brilliant. Strangely, and as you rightly pointed out, I got this image from the Nixon Presidential Library. For some reason, I assumed it would be accurate. The irony of this situation should surely not be lost on anyone reading this comment! :-)
@trikkid
@trikkid 7 ай бұрын
Nicely balanced and unbiased analysis. Thank you.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@jasonweaver6524
@jasonweaver6524 7 ай бұрын
If the relationship between the USA and Israel is diminished, or if the USA loses its position as global hegemon, Israel will draw on the experience of 4 millennium of how to leech onto the next global superpower for support of its ambitions in Palestine and globally.
@lordfedjoe
@lordfedjoe 7 ай бұрын
They can't do that with China
@jasonweaver6524
@jasonweaver6524 7 ай бұрын
@@lordfedjoe I agree with you, but they will try, because they know that like most Asian nations, China has an affinity for corruption.
@danfriedman1164
@danfriedman1164 4 ай бұрын
I am an Israeli, and I think that US should stand by Israeli unconditionally.
@TheJosephPrice
@TheJosephPrice 4 ай бұрын
Those weren’t “Palestinian Territories” at the time of the 1967 war. Gaza was part of Egypt and The West Bank part of Jordan, hence its name. They were then occupied as buffer zones, much like the Sinai Peninsula.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 4 ай бұрын
Yes. But sometimes in short videos one has to use shorthand. They had indeed been controlled by Jordan and Egypt (a point I believe that I made), but from 1967 they officially came to be seen as Palestinian Territories occupied by Israel.
@Abdi-zv6ex
@Abdi-zv6ex 7 ай бұрын
Four billions dollars a year and expensive weapons from United State, Israel maybe have powerfull lobbies in United State.
@fialeks
@fialeks 7 ай бұрын
Nah, Israel does not interfere in US politics. This label is reserved for Russia. Israel is a Friend.
@imhere8380
@imhere8380 7 ай бұрын
they do..................they rule the USA.
@fialeks
@fialeks 7 ай бұрын
@@imhere8380 Nooo, can't be right.
@jefferybrown6473
@jefferybrown6473 7 ай бұрын
@@fialeks A "friend" who repeatedly spies on and blackmail us.
@clouds2593
@clouds2593 7 ай бұрын
You need to cover the bombing of a sovereign territory of Iran in Syria, their consulate by israel.
@davidanderson9664
@davidanderson9664 7 ай бұрын
No. The bombing was an annex. Anyway... look up 1980 for Iranian respect for the Geneva Diplomatic/Embassy respect. Hostage crisis anyone? Pick up a book my friend, learn Iranian history please. respectfully, D.A. NYC
@aaronmercer8318
@aaronmercer8318 7 ай бұрын
@@davidanderson9664 what do you mean by “an annex”? And because of what Iran did in 1980 they don’t deserve to be treated like everyone else now?
@TurinTurambar200
@TurinTurambar200 7 ай бұрын
@@aaronmercer8318 you should look into Iranian rhetoric regarding Israeli statehood over the last few decades.
@bilic8094
@bilic8094 7 ай бұрын
Maybe they had wrong maps like when nato hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade Serbia.
@thomassenbart
@thomassenbart 7 ай бұрын
Iran is the reason behind October 7 and is engaged in a shadow war against Israel.
@MB-xq3pq
@MB-xq3pq 7 ай бұрын
the irony of becoming what you once hated
@henrybn14ar
@henrybn14ar 7 ай бұрын
What point are you trying to make.
@thomassenbart
@thomassenbart 7 ай бұрын
Ridiculous assertion. If Israel did not react powerfully to Arab aggression, it would have been crushed in 48.
@Munthasir123
@Munthasir123 7 ай бұрын
Professor I wanted to start by saying you did an excellent job at covering such tricky geopolitical analysis. If there is one criticism I can offer that would be that in many parts of the video the assumption was that viewers are well versed in the matter. I know there is a time constraint and knowing you for a long time I know it was done with honest intent but I still wanted to point that out.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thanks. It is always difficult to cover everything in detail and keep the video to a manageable length. I thought I had scripted it to be accessible to all viewers. Thanks for pointing out that it might not have been.
@taylorbrowning3297
@taylorbrowning3297 7 ай бұрын
This is a thoughtful, well done historic break down of a very complicated issue. While I understand why the US supported Israel in the past, they are behaving worse than Russia, our self proclaimed nemesis, so it seems pretty hypocritical and it undermines the US position on the world stage as beacons of freedom, democracy and self-determination
@tatianapavel9858
@tatianapavel9858 7 ай бұрын
1917... it makes you rethink both WWs' history 😢
@yotzap
@yotzap 7 ай бұрын
than, what do you think?
@HellaNGMusic
@HellaNGMusic 7 ай бұрын
The bullied becoming the bully. The irony of Israel.
@1888bry
@1888bry 7 ай бұрын
Look at the ones we can not talk about. Gods special ones. Uss liberty was covered up well, miitary men threatened if they talk.
@perrybonnell6060
@perrybonnell6060 7 ай бұрын
The rift will not increase or jeopardise the status quo with respect to the US and Israeli relationship. It’s an election year in the US so I believe a lot of what is said publicly is window dressing. The US will remain a staunch ally of Israel militarily and on the geopolitical scene for the foreseeable future.
@AntiDegenerate1971
@AntiDegenerate1971 7 ай бұрын
Yes but eventually the military aid will stop. There just needs to be proper leadership changes in specific key positions of the US establishment.
@Tini_Scrapitti
@Tini_Scrapitti 7 ай бұрын
Even Realpolitiks has limits, but the consequences beyond such could be shattering.
@AddoTheJester
@AddoTheJester 7 ай бұрын
I certainly appreciate seeing this video, I am really open to learning the political history of the Middle East. I don't know if you read many comments Professor Ker-Lindsay, but I am aware of some history regarding ethnic violence between the Israeli and Arab inhabitants of the area; I'm really curious on what you would have had to say regarding that aspect of the history between the two, as it definitely seems relevant to this topic because the foundation of Israel created lots of tension in that area and there was a massive demographic change and there was violence perpetrated on both sides, making the situation as tense as it is today. I know just enough (or so I think), but I really was interested to see what you could have to say regarding that specific aspect. I really wanted to see what you had to say; I do not know if it is too contentious for you to speak on, or if you thought the topic simply was less relevant to the political history, but could you comment on any thoughts about that?
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the incredibly kind comment. Regarding the ethnic violence before the creation of Israel, I wish I could give you a definitive answer. However, this isn't something that I have explored in detail. It is another profoundly contentious and contested dimension of the conflict.
@emirhanberber9509
@emirhanberber9509 6 ай бұрын
We living in the Middle East have been destroying each other for years. At this rate, the war will never end. While people are interested in space, we are continuing the war that has been going on for 5000 years. My country that is in the best situation is Turkey. Kurdish, Turkish, Greek, Circassian, Armenian, Jewish, Arab, Zaza, Assyrian, Yazidi, Bulgarian, Bosnian, Albanian, etc. We can live together. The most important reason for this is that our founder Atatürk saw everyone who worked for his country and felt Turkish as a Turk. The Middle East, where thousands of ethnic groups live, is built on very fine balances. A little manipulation has brought nothing but death to Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Sudan, Libya, Karabakh, Bosnia, the Caucasus and others. Another fact that distant countries play on these balances.
@jaymudd2817
@jaymudd2817 7 ай бұрын
Gaza Strip is but a Sliver. I ain't cryin' no damn River.
@educatethemonster6198
@educatethemonster6198 7 ай бұрын
You would if you lived there…..and had your land stolen and your family terrorised!
@vitorlopes2064
@vitorlopes2064 2 ай бұрын
Very good summary. Good that you brought up the question of the illegal settlements
@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986
@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 7 ай бұрын
Alliances usually only make sense if there is enough benefit to outweigh the cost of having them. The obvious question here is what is the benefit to USA? Israel is more trouble than it’s worth and causes constant headaches for the Americans, cost billions to provide aid for even though it’s ostensibly a 1st world country and the vast majority of Americans have no cultural or historic roots to the Middle East or Judaism as a religion. What does America gain except lots of new enemies mostly in the Islamic world?
@jahidulmawla677
@jahidulmawla677 7 ай бұрын
Israel is like a military base for USA
@Konstantin2004
@Konstantin2004 7 ай бұрын
The us has lots of other military bases in the region ​@@jahidulmawla677
@zdv-b3g
@zdv-b3g 7 ай бұрын
IMO the benefit was more obvious during the Cold War when much of the Middle East was USSR-aligned. I see this alliance gradually weakening as Israel becomes increasingly right-wing and disinterested in any kind of settlement for its occupied territories. It is already evident that the Israel relationship gives the USA very little and better relations with the Arab states would be way more valuable. Whenever the US president becomes a member of a younger generation, I expect this to accelerate.
@MarkVrem
@MarkVrem 7 ай бұрын
1st world country might be a lot of smoke and mirrors thanks to U.S Aid. Strategically I think it is important. Because it sits in between Egypt, Turkey and Iran. The three historical power brokers in the area.
@VR36030
@VR36030 7 ай бұрын
War with Iran feels constantly inevitable and only Israel would be willing to fight that war. The US doesn't want to be embroiled in a drawn-out conflicts there and Europe would protest due to their natural squeamishness over such a war.
@nazimhk
@nazimhk 7 ай бұрын
These changes might be temporary bearing in mind the world opinion. Sure, the weapons and military aid will continue behind the scene. This is just to stop the world moving against the US. Prof. James has given a very good review, but these feelings that I have expressed are based on past history. Hope things will end up peacefully.
@patrickhenry6695
@patrickhenry6695 7 ай бұрын
It’s not real until the arms shipments stop
@davidhinkley
@davidhinkley 7 ай бұрын
Exactly! In fact, I say when all aid stops flowing to the wealthy nation of Israel and starts flowing to Palestine with military guards.... including food, water, medicine, medical and infrastructure materials and tools, at least.
@thomassenbart
@thomassenbart 7 ай бұрын
They won't. We like Israel.
@oldgreybeard2507
@oldgreybeard2507 7 ай бұрын
Once again my thanks
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. I really appreciate it.
@fevzidemir5946
@fevzidemir5946 7 ай бұрын
Greeting from Turkiye 🇹🇷
@davelowinger7056
@davelowinger7056 7 ай бұрын
Why aren't they allowed into talking people into being evil into talking people into hurting other people for their own good❤
@bluecoffee8414
@bluecoffee8414 7 ай бұрын
This was so informative and clearly laid out. Thank you!
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind comment. Really appreciated!
@VR36030
@VR36030 7 ай бұрын
No. The US is simply concerned that a Rafah invasion combined with reckless military strikes could endanger the Camp David Peace Accords due to Rafah being right near the Egyptian border (refugee crisis + Sinai becoming a battlefield again). There's also a possible domino effect with UAE then suspending diplomatic relations and Saudi Arabia ruling out diplomatic relations. Both countries could then deepen ties with Russia and China. Also the US wants Israel to prepare to fight Iran which explains the massive amount of US weapon shipments to Israel. That stuff isn't for taking out Hamas in Rafah. Israel has more than enough military resources to do that already. There's probably also a concern that Israel is focusing its attention too much on Gaza and so will be unprepared for a military confrontation with Iran due to spread out military resources. I think there's also a fear that all or most of the hostages are dead at this point and so this indeed is a tactic used to embroil Israel endlessly in Gaza without a sustained victory.
@MuiltiLightRider
@MuiltiLightRider 7 ай бұрын
Saudi and UAE are not gonna deepen security ties with Russia and China. China can't reach the Persian Gulf with their navy and neither can Russia. The US is sending military equipment not to prepare a fight with Iran, it's to keep Israel stocked up to deal with Hezbollah. The US doesn't want Israel to launch a war against Iran. The Israelis are the ones escalating right now to (I presume) force escalation with Iran and draw the US in. This would let them take out Hezbollah in a conflict by forcing the US to back them
@jellyrcw12
@jellyrcw12 7 ай бұрын
I would say this is an accurate assessment
@richiesd1
@richiesd1 7 ай бұрын
Technicality here, I don’t believe there is an alliance treaty between USA and Israel. It’s the USA being beholden to Israel John Mearsheimer wrote a book on that.
@thomassenbart
@thomassenbart 7 ай бұрын
Correct, no real alliance exists.
@beonfly1111
@beonfly1111 7 ай бұрын
🌟... "Anyone can easily understand why the present Israel, which in itself concentrates all the evils and abominations committed on earth by colonialism and Nazism, and which is just the extreme opposite of the kingdom of Peace and Justice to come for all the descendants of Adam, Noah and Abraham of the Eternal One, is reaching the limits of its imposture". ... "Amen" !
@naasikhendricks1501
@naasikhendricks1501 7 ай бұрын
10:26 you forgot the haniball directive.
@roddychristodoulou9111
@roddychristodoulou9111 7 ай бұрын
There is no doubt that the Jewish lobby in America is the most powerful of all other lobbies . This is the main reason we see strong America Israel ties . However I've always felt that America is using Israel to acheive it's foreign policy objectives . Especially now that Islamic terrorism is the main enemy of the west America needs Israel more than ever so it is my opinion this rift we see now is more shallower than we think . There are so things America could do to force Israels hand in a Middle East peace settlement but instead we see the opposite . I beleive this is done deliberately in order to keep stoking the fire .
@FlamingBasketballClub
@FlamingBasketballClub 7 ай бұрын
"If you aren't voting for me, you aren't black" Joe Biden 2020
@tanyaperrin8844
@tanyaperrin8844 7 ай бұрын
Why is the world so fu@ked up?
@braxxian
@braxxian 7 ай бұрын
Actually compared to this time last century the world is amazingly peacefully.
@thomassenbart
@thomassenbart 7 ай бұрын
Blame the terrorists.
@ГлебВерховский-п2р
@ГлебВерховский-п2р 6 ай бұрын
Globalization and new information technologies are the two main reasons. Globalization causes displacements, migration, loss of jobs, sense of insecurity, etc. This in turn, helps marginal, populist and extremist groups to come to power. Information technologies such as social networks help marginal, populist and extremist groups to recruit new members, as well as to consolidate and mobilize themselves.
@edbloom2327
@edbloom2327 7 ай бұрын
How would America have felt if world had sided with Al Quida after 9/11?
@rezrunnercl
@rezrunnercl 7 ай бұрын
Rediculous comparison. Was American a brutal occupier.? Was Al Quidas purpose to gain their freedom from our optession? 10/7 was a direct result of Israel's 75 years of brutality. They are an Apartheid State. How dare you compare the two events. Besides, many of our enemies are because we protect Israel right or wrong. Maybe without them, we would not have so many enemies. We've supported a lot of "wrong" or failed to call them on obviously bD acts. Like all their illegal settlements and land theft. Noone calls Israel on their sins. No wonder the world is angry with us.
@davidellis2182
@davidellis2182 7 ай бұрын
Al-Qaeda*. Why would the world have sided with a group of religious fanatics who'd just murdered thousands of innocent civilians overseas?
@rehmanishaak1503
@rehmanishaak1503 7 ай бұрын
Why do you keep criminals als your alliance? Why do you continue backing Netanyahu ? He is not the only culprit ......
@MrTomoti
@MrTomoti 7 ай бұрын
Hello James, can you cover the Corfu Channel Case which took place in 1946. The representative from Nicaragua Carlos Arguello Gomez, presented the case at the ICJ that Germany may have facilitated the genocide in Gaza. During his presentation, Mr Gomez referenced the ruling of the ICJ that Britain put forwards against Albania. How do these cases relate? Thanks.
@reynaldolopez9221
@reynaldolopez9221 7 ай бұрын
Lets the american taxpayers start questioning the whereabouts of over 297 billions in aid to israel, and what those amount has bringuin to their well bings aswell as for their childrens.
@thomassenbart
@thomassenbart 7 ай бұрын
Where do get such a figure from?
@Kyrephare
@Kyrephare 7 ай бұрын
If a new Israeli government came into power, I believe that most of the tensions would reset. I think a lot has to do Netanyahu himself. The fact that he has been in power for so long in Israel has made him the face of Israel's maximalist policies. New leadership would allow Israel a chance to re-calibrate their approach, and I think in the US they would give a new government a shot to see if they can do better. I think an underlying issue as well is when Netanyahu backed Mitt Romney in the 2012, he turned broad, Bipartisan support for Israel into a more partisan topic. I think by so overtly picking a side in a presidential election had many democrats ask the question 'why should we support this guy?". What do you see now? The last major in person diplomatic exchange was Benny Gantz, the opposition leader, meeting with Kamela Harris a month ago.
@davidhinkley
@davidhinkley 7 ай бұрын
Based on what? Everyone else running for gov't positions there has approved of what is being done in Palestine or wanted to more, faster. All of his opposition is only due to the many crimes he's committed within Israel and the eroding of court powers. An opinion is meaningless when it isn't based on reality.
@Kyrephare
@Kyrephare 7 ай бұрын
​@@davidhinkley An AP poll in January showed that only 5% of voters listed the the Hamas- Israel conflict as a major concern for voters in the upcoming election. Honestly, very few people ever voted with the "oh how did my congressman vote in relation to Israeli/Palestinian relations?" in the past, even with all the crimes. Oh and a Gallup poll in February showed that 58% of the US still had a favorable view of Israel, only down 10% from 68% from the year prior. Netanyahu though had a 33% approval rating from US citizens and 47% disapproval (the remaining were undecided). I interpret that as seeing Netanyahu as the issue, not relations with Israel as a whole. Most have no clue who Benny Gantz is. They will just see him as the new guy from the "opposition party" even if his party is a mirror of Likud except without Netanyahu at the helm. He also wouldnt be beholden to the far right of Israeli politics like Netanyahu currently is. Also let me ask you this: If/when this conflict calms down and leaves the daily news feeds, who has the more influential lobby group in the US? Israel or Palestine? So yeah, I dont see why the relationship wouldnt bounce back so long as new leadership can at least give lipservice to cooperation with both parties the US, and limiting collateral damage. Hopefully that is enough to show that my opinion is not in fact "baseless".
@mastergun57
@mastergun57 7 ай бұрын
Uss liberty
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
I keep getting this, but I'm unsure why it seems such a significant issue in some quarters. It happened in 1967. The two countries agreed it was an accident. (And there's no reason to suspect otherwise. These tragedies happen in wars.) The main takeaway from that war was the US decision to strategically prioritise Israel. I'm really not sure why it is being raised. How does it change anything? I am really keen to know.
@constantinvaldor3742
@constantinvaldor3742 7 ай бұрын
​@JamesKerLindsay the reason to suspect otherwise was to draw US into the war obviously lol why else.
@zachscully
@zachscully 7 ай бұрын
30-32ish years after the U.S. had just fought a massive war, moved peace along with Israel-Palestine, elected a young president socially liberal but economically conservative, came out of a recession, the House went Republican populist insane, Colorado used its ‘states’ right’ to discriminate against gays (temporarily), now in 2024 we are on the verge of….
@tauhidershadKUFNAFLORAN
@tauhidershadKUFNAFLORAN 7 ай бұрын
Call it an alliance or whatever, USA isn’t the one being in control of this relationship, Israel is.
@Todd.B
@Todd.B 7 ай бұрын
Thx Prof., not as entertaining as your video on Italy and San Marino. I'm going to sustain on this one, basically because I haven't figured out what my position is on this one. When hasn't Israel attacked Gaza? I was watching this incredible video on 9/11 and what was on the news that day? Israel attacking Gaza. The whole situation just makes want to scream in frustration. Have a great weekend.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, Todd. Haha! Italy-San Marino was a lot of fun to make! :-)
@m.streicher8286
@m.streicher8286 7 ай бұрын
When I think about the amount of economic and political strife the US covered Israel from, I feel slightly irritated. It's not that America dealt with 73', for example, but that we did it for the worst people and reasons.
@jayc4562
@jayc4562 7 ай бұрын
Just as long as American legislators are available for purchase I don't see the situation changing much. However Arab states are getting more and more involved in the bidding.
@peterhumphrys
@peterhumphrys 7 ай бұрын
I must admit to being a little indifferent to the issue even though I studied Near Eastern History at Uni, as I really don't care for either Israel or Palestine, both contain exceptionally objectionable groups within their borders, though I perceive the long term direct threat to North American security to be far greater from the Muslim Palestinians whose direct threats against the Western way of life should be taken with all seriousness!
@jellyrcw12
@jellyrcw12 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for this thoughtful video
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. It was a topic I had really wanted to cover for a long time.
@mohamedjama9185
@mohamedjama9185 7 ай бұрын
Insightful
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@GarrettMixing1
@GarrettMixing1 7 ай бұрын
God Loves EVERYONE. I HOPE EVERYONE builds a relationship with JESUS.
@ernst91
@ernst91 7 ай бұрын
End dual citizenship in our government!
@katanabluejay
@katanabluejay 7 ай бұрын
Glory to Israel!
@petercohen5563
@petercohen5563 7 ай бұрын
You ignore the ethnic cleansing that began at least in January 1948 and had expelled more than 300,000 Palestinians by May 15th.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
This is not a video about the Israel-Palestine issue. It is a video about the Israel-US relationship. I focus on the main aspects of that relationship.
@Gtee5
@Gtee5 7 ай бұрын
7:28 The Oslo Accords did not include "a commitment to recognize a Palestinian state". The text of the agreement does not refer to the future of creation of a Palestinian state. Yitzhak Rabin opposed the creation of a Palestinian state, instead calling for "something less than a state". Please include a correction.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
No. The clear understanding was a two state solution. All your comment says is that Rabin had no intention to honour the terms of the deal. (Interestingly, I rather think this is just your interpretation. I’ve made lots of videos on Israel-Palestine and I have mentioned the Oslo Accords many times. But you’re the only person to ever make this point.)
@AnonyMous-ij8ri
@AnonyMous-ij8ri 7 ай бұрын
As a person who speaks Hebrew, there are recordings of Rabin making speeches during the Oslo period where he explicitly states he does not support full Palestinian statehood, but only limited autonomy under Israel's security control. Are you an expert or what?
@bencordell1965
@bencordell1965 7 ай бұрын
But theyre the chosen ones
@imacat123
@imacat123 7 ай бұрын
First!
@edmasoud2826
@edmasoud2826 7 ай бұрын
"Settler colonial states have a terminal shelf life. Israel is no exception." ~ CHRIS HEDGES “Israel is a settler colonial project that is nearing its end, as colonial projects reach their final phase become more brutal and ruthless.” ~ Ilan Pape The Jewish Professor “We are witnessing the end of Zionism, which is the most dangerous stage because it fights for survival, very cruel and violent. It is the darest stage in the history of Palestine. But it’s the pre-dawn darkness!” ~ Ilan Pape The Jewish Professor
@jdhabdsudcbld
@jdhabdsudcbld 7 ай бұрын
Ugh, wake me up when the Levantine Confederation exists
@xberman
@xberman 7 ай бұрын
This is a difficulty topic and it is impossible to objectively cover all aspects of the conflict and of the "special" relationship, but I think that the "crisis" should be viewed much more in light of the American pivot to Asian and it's withdrawal from the ME and Iran's growing influence in the region. The current war has very little to do with the creation of a Palestinian state along side Israel. America, and maybe the Israeli left are the only ones pursuing it (maybe). Hamas, Hizballah, the Houthis, Kata'ib Hezbollah in Iraq, IRGC and the Syrian govt are on one side and they don't understand the "Zionist entity" as a legitimate state regardless of its borders. It is so hard to think of the creation of a Palestinian state as something that Israel could just "create" regardless of the will of the actors on the ground and live in peace with as happy neighbors. On the other hand is obvious that Biden's pressure on Israel is in line with his decision to abandon Afghanistan and the Kurds and leave only token troops in Iraq and Syria, and Iranian growing influence over those states. I'm not saying that there is nothing that Israel should do about Palestinians, but the relationship has other important developments outside of their control
@peterkops6431
@peterkops6431 7 ай бұрын
An important story to cover. Done in your usual contextual manner. Thanks as always Prof 👍🏻👍🏻
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, Peter. I hope all is well at your end. Have a great weekend!
@AlexGreat87
@AlexGreat87 7 ай бұрын
Professor, I have to disagree in one point completely: The US will not broker any peace initiative any time soon; the US is not in the hegemonic position that it used to be and the Palestine public (as much as the general sentiment in the region) is that the US would not be a neutral mediator. I see China, or even Brazil with Netanyahu out of the government being mediators more than the US.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
The US might not be the hyperpower it once was, but it is still a crucial actor in international politics. No other country exerts the leverage on Israel necessary to persuade it to act, and then to safeguard its security after a settlement, as the United States.
@philsidock
@philsidock 7 ай бұрын
This is certainly an interesting time in terms of Israeli politics. I wonder how the U.S. will react to the upcoming actions in Gaza because I really don't know.
@johntan9151
@johntan9151 7 ай бұрын
Good outline of historical facts. Civilization began in that region from ancient times.. And if this war escalates, World War 3 may be the consequence. Already military leaders in US have sounded the alarm. Time for leaders to ensure peace returns.
@mhhd77
@mhhd77 7 ай бұрын
All you need to do to find out about Zionisim and Israel is listen to Jonathan Pollard podcasts to go into the minds of Israelis
@krishnakatikitala
@krishnakatikitala 7 ай бұрын
On Friday UN adopted a resolution calling for Israel to be held accountable for possible war crimes and crimes against humanity in the Gaza Strip,the resolution is opposed by six states including the United States and Germany. Professor the west is complicit in war crimes in Gaza as always there is no rift... hold your horses
@שמעוןאייזנברג-צ3כ
@שמעוןאייזנברג-צ3כ 7 ай бұрын
Let me share with you the list of countries who vote in favor Algeria Bangladesh Belgium Brazil Burundi Chile China Côte d'Ivoire Cuba Eritrea Finland Gambia Ghana Honduras Indonesia Kazakhstan Kuwait Kyrgyzstan Luxembourg Malaysia Maldives Morocco Qatar Somalia South Africa Sudan and Vietnam most of them are brutal dictatorships
@ShakaristoGinola
@ShakaristoGinola 7 ай бұрын
@@שמעוןאייזנברג-צ3כ South Africa isnt a dictatorship at all. Actually it is the best model of pure democracy. It has made me feel democracy in its purest foam isnt sustainable.
@Drinkingyoursaltytearsallah
@Drinkingyoursaltytearsallah 7 ай бұрын
@@ShakaristoGinola They can't even keep the lights on, 25000 murders EVERY YEAR!
@saint-miscreant
@saint-miscreant 7 ай бұрын
Good job covering a very sensitive topic, Prof! I would however suggest doing a longer video when it comes to topics with this level of controversy and complication, to ensure you have time to give relevant context for people who aren't so familiar. Personally I wonder if the USA would still be so enthusiastic about protecting Israel's statehood if it (the US) didn't have so much vested in the balance of power in the Middle East... and if Iran wasn't a problem. I rather suspect not, especially given rising public awareness in the past few years about the repression campaigns and human rights violations Israel has carried out. I still find the original UN division insanely idiosyncratic and badly managed, but that's the way the cookie crumbles... in the end as always, it's the civilians on both sides that get shafted.
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 7 ай бұрын
If I were U.S. president, I'd call the leaders of Israel and Palestine and tell them we'll gladly help, but they've got six months to get a settlement done or we're out. We have a strategic interest in the region and a natural friendship with Israel, but our association with that country costs us on the global stage, and the extremists on the two sides have too long used American aid as props to keep the conflict going.
@MateoMPM
@MateoMPM 7 ай бұрын
That actually happened Remember the Clinton administration? Barak and Arafat were discussing a two state solution But the Palestinian side , as always rejected the proposal and didn't offer an alternative. Then in 2008 Ehud Olmert offered again a two state solution to Mahmud Abbas and again , the Palestinian side said no
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 7 ай бұрын
@@MateoMPM And then we should walk away. A threat's no good if we won't act on it.
@LizzieBirdsworth-ek3io
@LizzieBirdsworth-ek3io 7 ай бұрын
Muslims will never settle for an agreement, they want it all, and will not stop till it's done. Just like they are doing to Armenia. But, Israel provided weapons to Azerbaijani Islamists and Armenia lost. Israel complains about Islamists but didnt mind Armenia losing to Islam.
@gregcampwriter
@gregcampwriter 7 ай бұрын
@@LizzieBirdsworth-ek3io And Israel's right wing have the same stance, wanting everything.
@MateoMPM
@MateoMPM 7 ай бұрын
@@xunqianbaidu6917 can you explain that further please ?
@saintradebe4042
@saintradebe4042 7 ай бұрын
Let the Lord keep President Biden safe and sound
@robertovazquez8512
@robertovazquez8512 7 ай бұрын
The United Kingdom supported the Jews while other Europeans did not. Even had a Jewish Prime Minister, Disraeli. For that they were blessed. The United States opened their country to the Jews fleeing persecution and supported Israel since their birth as new nation and they have been blessed. Political pressures are pushing the US to start doing actions that do not help Israel in one of the moments when the support is needed. May the US repent and may God be merciful.
@geofflepper3207
@geofflepper3207 7 ай бұрын
According to one source after WW2 the United States put immense pressure on bankrupted Britain to get out of the way and let the Zionists have their way in Palestine and the British representative responsible for Palestine was not happy about that and thought that it was disgusting how the Palestinians were betrayed. It is also claimed that as American representatives talked to British representatives at a time when there were many Jewish refugees in Europe someone said that they (meaning his American bosses) did not want more Jewish people wandering the streets of New York. In other words the Americans didn't push for the creation of Israel because they cared about Jewish people but rather because they didn't want more Jewish refugees coming to the United States. Likely Canadian authorities had similar views. Americans, Canadians and Europeans could have tried to make more of an effort to support and embrace Jewish people who had suffered so much but instead they tried to get as many Jewish people as possible to go to Palestine which was already populated by another people and thus created endless conflict in Palestine.
@ferencdeak8784
@ferencdeak8784 3 ай бұрын
I don't think there will be any change in American policy of unconditional support for Israel. The Jewish lobby is so strong in America that governments, regardless of party color, represent the interests of Israel rather than the interests of the United States. After the Trump administration recognized Israel's annexation of the Golan Heights, the Biden administration supported it. This, in turn, discredits America in other conflicts. In connection with Ukraine, Russia is condemned for its annexation policy, but in case of Israel supports it (and the US also recognized the annexation of the Western Sahara by Morocco, in return, Morocco recognizes Israel). With this, the United States is also destroying the world order, which is based on the equality, sovereignty, territorial integrity of countries and the ban on annexation in the past.
@vkevpe
@vkevpe 7 ай бұрын
But a fan of Netanyahu but I think most my fellow Americans support Israel. Biden is feeling pressure by his far left and it’s just that they have an overwhelming presence in US Media and on social media. It’s the squeaky wheel. Americans over 30 strongly back Israel. Not saying Israel has been a saint, but we’ve dealt with Palestinian terrorists for 70 years. October 7th drove that home and I lay all the blame on Hamas. I doubt a two state solution to even be possible unless and until the terrorists acts and the support within these territories comes to a substantial end. Start with a self policing force and if the Pals can prove capable of renouncing terrorism, only then is it possible to discuss full autonomy. I wouldn’t give it to someone trying to kill me. Who would? I’m neither Jewish or Israeli. I’m an American from Berkeley.
@jimg1056
@jimg1056 7 ай бұрын
"Not saying Israel has been a saint" is probably the only thing close to the truth you have said. Everything else is a bunch of fallacies
@jimg1056
@jimg1056 7 ай бұрын
You should also know that Kkkhamas are NOT considered terrorists nearly everywhere in the global south. Only in the Western world thus the constant refusal of acknowledgement that they should be condemned under most UN nations. The West leaves in their own world where they think they ARE the world
@justinpaul3110
@justinpaul3110 7 ай бұрын
You bring up an interesting point: HAMAS rarely acts like a state. I'm no fan of Hezbollah but they do provide government services to the areas that they control in a more conventional sense than HAMAS ever does. Instead, they function more like a death cult and protest party. Would any other country launch a massive attack on another without the ability (or at least trying to pretend like they can) to provide security to their people? That's exactly what HAMAS did. Then, it's up to Israel to protect the people that they supposedly govern? Think about exactly who does that?
@nielsrosink5051
@nielsrosink5051 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see a free Palestine. But I also realise that people born nowadays have nothing to do with Israels politics. I just hope Arabs and Jews can live in peace, with a Palestinian state if possible. We, as the west, should do everything possible to create a real Palestine.
@SimonWallwork
@SimonWallwork 7 ай бұрын
I've never really understood the US/ Israeli alliance- and after watching this I still don't get it.
@folofus4815
@folofus4815 7 ай бұрын
Basically there are a lot of very wealthy Jewish people in the United States (we have this highest percentage Jewish population other than Israel in the world) plus a lot of southern evangelicals hold to the heresy of dispensationalism which holds Jews as more important than other people because they’re god’s chosen, so those things combined cause strong support for Israel here
@TeeTee-zm2re
@TeeTee-zm2re 7 ай бұрын
AIPAC, Christian zionism and the west has more in common with the white Israelis than brown Palestinans.
@לעזאזלעםגוביידן
@לעזאזלעםגוביידן 7 ай бұрын
evangelist christian
@bilic8094
@bilic8094 7 ай бұрын
​@@folofus4815Aipac wields a lot of political power.
@VR36030
@VR36030 7 ай бұрын
Israel is the greatest check on Iran that the US could ask for. Israel also allows the US a foothold in the region. They give the US leverage when it comes to dealing with very much opportunistic governments like Egypt who'd switch over to Russia and China in a heartbeat without US presence and pressure. Ultimately the relationship pre 1979 (before Camp David Accords and Iranian Revolution) was optional. The relationship after 1979 is necessary.
@santiagoalcantara3806
@santiagoalcantara3806 7 ай бұрын
3:07 in violation of the league covenant article 22 Versailles treaty. There the unitary right of self determination is stablish. Because right are not negotiable the partitions is if fact ilegal because hinders the self determination right of palestians.
@paramahansayogananda6719
@paramahansayogananda6719 7 ай бұрын
Hello Prof, amazing video as usual. As you said, America and Israel’s rocky relationship will only get worse from here on out.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. It will indeed be interesting to see how it plays out.
@nut6043
@nut6043 7 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the balanced view that you present on this issue! Thanks for the video
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much.
@esowek
@esowek 7 ай бұрын
America should have been more resolute about settlements 30 years ago. We are now in a position where they are a significant concern in the occupied territories and American public opinion, especially among younger Americans, is not on Israel’s side. The lobbying groups will continue to get politicians in pockets, but public opinion is dwindling by the minute. It will be interesting to see how the relationship evolves. I don’t see Biden or Trump being able to assist with any meaningful peace process that sees results.
@yotk1406
@yotk1406 7 ай бұрын
The tension is not with Israel, but Netanyahu.
@fialeks
@fialeks 7 ай бұрын
The citizens of Isreal have elected Netayahu again and again. Has Netayahu killed 30 000+ Palestinians himself? Is the tension with Putin not in Russia?
@louisgiokas2206
@louisgiokas2206 7 ай бұрын
While the US did support Israel in 1973, there were some issues that delayed that support. Israel had to make concessions to receive it. I think that Israel deserves US support, for the reasons stated. On the other hand, Israel is an ethno-religious state. The US, quite frankly, is not, and this always keeps open the possibility of opposition to Israel in the US on those grounds. It is hard to separate the issues of opposition to support for Israel, a liberal democratic state, and antisemitism. This is just the reality of the situation. We support Saudi Arabia and many other Arab states that are also ethno-religious. In those cases, it is mostly because of the oil. The US no longer needs the oil, but our allies do. We often find it hard to disentangle from relationships that no longer make sense from a US point of view. I expect this is true of most countries. This is a problem for the US that has not been addressed since the end of the Cold War. It should be. Mention that the US should be the policeman of the world, and you will be shouted down by all sides of the US political spectrum. The fact is that the US populace is moving away from support for that role. It is unclear whether the relationship will deteriorate further. Most young people who are protesting have little idea of what they are protesting for or against. They also don't recall the horrendous things Palestinians did to Americans over the years. Ignorance of history is rife today.
@melissacorbett4180
@melissacorbett4180 7 ай бұрын
I agree with almost everything you have said here except people don't know what they're protesting about. Even without much historical knowledge of the M.E. or zionism most people I have spoken to have been repulsed by Israel's actions in Gaza right now. So, going out and protesting is a legitimate way for ordinary citizens to voice those concerns. But yeah, as someone in Europe I can see that the US is heading in a different direction and whether they still want to maintain the same "special relationship" with Israel given the change in demographics and policy outlook in the US willl be interesting going forward.
@louisgiokas2206
@louisgiokas2206 7 ай бұрын
@@melissacorbett4180 Fair point. My counter would be that what Hamas has done in Gaza, putting October 7 aside, would be reprehensible to those protesters. You can find Israels' actions problematic, but I would bet none (well never say none, I guess) of those protestors would accept living under Hamas rule, or probably PA rule at that. When was the last time there was an election in the West Bank. How much western money has gone to line the pockets of Palestinian leaders, from Arafat on down to the present? Another thing I wonder about is a clip I saw about a protest in the UK that was pro-Hamas. There was an older woman being interviewed who identified as a lesbian. She carried a sign which showed support for Hamas from the LGBT community. Do you get where I am going with this? Do you know what is done to gays in Gaza? Some of them seek asylum in Israel to save their lives. I have noticed this, and I am not gay, just a news junkie. This is just the stuff that bubbles to the "surface" without looking for it specifically. What more can there be? This is just one example of the impedance mismatch between the core beliefs of many of the protestors and Hamas. Protestors tend to be single issue focused, often supporting people they would find abhorrent. I have seen this from the time of the Vietnam War. Heck, I was born in Washington, DC. In good weather I used to walk by the White House and Lafayette Square on Sunday morning for brunch at an Indian restaurant (I was a vegetarian back then) and there was ALWAYS a protest going on. I have also lived in the UK and traveled extensively abroad, on and off for the last half century, sometimes for pleasure, often on business. Being of 100% Greek ethnicity I was often not presumed to be an American. This allowed me to have some very interesting conversations.
@СергейВампир-л6в
@СергейВампир-л6в 7 ай бұрын
Что могут понять о мусульманском мире американцы и европейцы, когда их женщины с 1837 начали учиться в университетах наравне с мужчинами, когда уже в 1897 году 86 % студентов учились в университетах вместе с женщинами, а в Стэнфордском университете было столько женщин, что пришлось ограничивать число мест для них до 500, поскольку их становилось больше, чем мужчин. А в одной из таких самых самых просвещенных мусульманских стран, как Саудовская Аравия, девочкам разрешали учиться аж до 6 класса, а недавно по указу короля, наконец разрешили водить машины. В Афганистане, и прочих шиттистанах жена являляется полной собственностью мужчины. Стоимость 15-летней девственницы 30 овец. За тридцать овец мужчина покупает ее себе как жену в неограниченное владение.Торговля девственницами идет полным ходом. Малолетними девственницами платят долги. Девятилетних девочек выдавают замуж за стариков в обмен на продукты для семьи на зиму. То, что мужчина, купивший жену, имеет полную власть и над ней и над ее детьми даже не обсуждается. И вот эта экономическая реальность женщины и детей как собственности - это то, с чем НИКОГДА не расстанутся мусульманские мужчины. Это то, что они никогда не позволят у себя никакой Западной цивилизации отобрать. Не забывайте, что Израиль - острие копья Западной цивилизации. Нигде женщина не обладает такой свободой, идущая с непокрытыми волосами и особенно с автоматом на плече. Самый последний нищий мусульманский голодранец полностью ВЛАДЕЕТ женой и детьми. Поэтому даже в Америке ослушавшихся дочерей они убивают. Они называют это honor killing. Для них лучше убить дочь, чем потерять власть над ней, потерять владение собственностью. Психология, которую американцы никогда не поймут. На границе Узбекистана и Афганистана дома не имели окон на улицу. Только окна во двор. Чтобы женщины сами не глазели и чтобы их никто не видел. Из дома только выход на базар, да и то только в сопровождении отца, брата или родственника. Девочкам в восемь лет одевают чадру с узкой прорезью для глаз. Раньше даже эта прорезь была закрыта сеткой из конского волоса. Сетка была грязной, пыль в ней застревала, и девочки получали трахому, страшное заболевание глаз, ведущее к слепоте. В восемь лет девочка уже не имела права разговаривать ни с одним мужчиной за исключением отца и братьев. Она оставалась с матерью на женской половине дома. О ее учебе заботились мало и уже через несколько лет продавали замуж, причем часто второй, а то и третьей женой. Дом в два этажа - означал две жены, дом в три этажа - три жены. Ее общение было ограничено малограмотной матерью и такими же детьми, как она. Столкновение с реальностью - редкие выходы на базар. Через несколько лет она сама становилась матерью и иногда к тридцати годам имела девять детей. Выглядела на шестьдесят. Жертва насильственного информационного голода, она оставалась инфантильным полуживотным. Тупость не делала ее ни красивее, ни моложе. Грязная черная чадра становилась спасением. Как женщина под ней выглядит и что на ней надето, никто не видит. Проблема в том, что мальчики проводят с этими насильственно отупленными матерями тоже почти до восьми лет: торчат на женской половине или играют на улице. На Востоке не мужское это дело - с детьми общаться. Когда они переходят в руки отцов, уже поздно. Дефективное интеллектуальное недоразвитие, искусственно задержанное общением только с детьми и инфантильными мамами, уже не исправить. Норму уже не догнать. Да и исправлять некому. Отцы -такие же тупые дети тупых матерей. Сын - это функция матери. Сыновья - двадцатилетние и бородатые, уже с оружием в руках, имеют мозги девятилетних детей-садистов, любящих мучать животных. Потом жертвами их садизма становятся люди. Единственное, чему они научились, - зарЕзать или нажать на курок. Для этого мозгов пятилетнего достаточно. Экономики во всех этих арабских странах убиты вместе с гражданскими свободами. Нефть их или спасает, или губит, иногда создавая временную иллюзию нормальности. Женщины их не только патологически ограниченны но и зависимы. Как говорила Айн Рэнд, “Dependence breeds hatred” . Потому рабы так полны ненависти. Эти женщины-рабыни в переполненных тесных жилищах в чудовищной, естественной для многодетности нищете, усиливаемой безграмотностью, становятся злобными до ярости фуриями, выливающими свою злобу на детей. Эта злоба создает и воспроизводит садизм. Пока европейская женщина университет закончит, найдет работу, у этой уже выводок таких же тупых полуживотных, как она. Тупость размножается по геометрической прогрессии. Оборот поколений в три раза быстрее. Экономику они без колонизаторов -европейцев или евреев - создавать не способны. Во всех этих шиттистанах один на углу питу продает, 15 безработных стоят вокруг и завидуют. Вот и вся экономика. В Египте, Кении и других бывших британских колониях до сих пор стонут в тоске по англичанам. Ведь эти проклинаемые всеми университетскими профессорами колонизаторы им водопровод провели, поезда пустили, дороги построили, европейскую медицину привезли. Арабы-мусульмане испытывают чудовищную зависть и злобу к Западной цивилизации, потому что цивилизацию со средним IQ 86 им не освоить. Злобу надо на кого-то вылить. Это единственный способ живыми себя почувствовать. По Данным Нигеля Фараж ( Nigel Farage), Британского политического лидера, 64% палестинских беженцев в Дании становятся преступникам и идут в тюрьму. 46% их детей следуют в тюрьму за родителями.
@wyqtor
@wyqtor 7 ай бұрын
The attitude of the US, like in the case of that other nation defending itself from acts of aggression (Ukraine), only reveals how unreliable the US really is with respect to its allies. One can't help but wonder if the US wouldn't also throw the Baltic countries in NATO under the bus if they got into a too troublesome situation.
@chrishieke1261
@chrishieke1261 7 ай бұрын
Well - the state of Israel has made a huge strategic mistake in the way it is conducting this military actions. And most western countries are in a very awkward position, on the one side championing universal human rights and on the other side supporting a country that clearly violates human rights on a large scale. Just look at Germany, that is trapped in its guilt-based 'Nibelungentreue' towards the state of Israel, even when public opinion is appalled by the attrocities the IDF is commiting with implicit backing of the German government. Israel gambled and lost the game. And instead of backing down, it is further escalating the conflict. It fully knows that western support will run out in weeks to months. So the last desparate move is to provoke a war with Iran and its minions (by further violating international law ... bombing a building with consular immunity). A war that that USA and other allies HAVE to support on Israels side. We (as the "moral driven West") have attacked countries for less - Syria, Libya - or outright waged war against a country including invading it - Yugoslavia over the Kosovo war. If you are part of the 'club of western nations' you can get away with breaking international law and committing war crimes. Unless of course you happen to kill citizens of your club member states (but only the 'real' ones, not those immigrants who just happen to have gained the citizenship).
@peaceleader7315
@peaceleader7315 7 ай бұрын
Never trust any of personal ambitions and their oligopoly.. hmmmm.. I guess personal ambitions overwrite their logical sense.. hmmmm.. Israel 🇮🇱 as a universal language, must stand on its own... hmmmm.. If the tribes of Israel 🇮🇱 could understand this.. hmmmm ☹️.. I need my rear guard.. right now.
@abdifatah8520
@abdifatah8520 7 ай бұрын
Professor! You did a good analysis. Is difficult when it comes Palestine and Isreal
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thanks you so much. That means a lot to me. I really appreciate it. (And thank you so much for all your wonderful support!) It’s never an easy conflict to cover. But this is such an important aspect of the whole dynamic in the Middle East. Hopefully, I was able to explain it in a fair and balanced way.
@toby9999
@toby9999 7 ай бұрын
I suspect the West wouldn't have given a toss about the problematic Arab world had it not been for the importance of oil.
@jmolofsson
@jmolofsson 7 ай бұрын
The guilt felt for Western antisemitism has been considerable, all since 1939/41/45. Israel thus had a huge goodwill capital, that first now has begun to run dry. (Partly due to waves of refugees to North America and Western Europe, that has made more and more people there re-categorize Palestinians from Arabs to victims, and Israelis from victims to perpetrators.) So I think you are wrong. 😉
@Halil.Ayhan1
@Halil.Ayhan1 7 ай бұрын
Hello Professor. You have handled a subject that needs to be addressed very well. In Europe, we watch with horror as a traumatized nation (the Jewish community) traumatizes another people (the Palestinian people). I predict that this situation will be the material for in-depth academic articles in the future. On the Israeli side, this extermination operation is seen as a victory. What is a victory in defeating a people you are asymmetrically strong against is debatable. Even if we accept it as a military victory, it is clearly a political defeat. Normalization with all Arab states is in deep freeze. It also seems to be rapidly losing world public support. It is also helping repressive regimes like Iran, which have lost their popular support, to become stronger and regain popular support. Israel has found a useful foreign policy tool and calls the slightest criticism "anti-Semitic rhetoric". It hurts the image of the United States more than Israel's own image. The positive image that the U.S. created in the Muslim world during the Cold War was eroded by the 2003 intervention in Iraq and gained momentum in the following years. The destruction of Gaza is the biggest blow to the U.S. image. How long can a boxer beat his opponent in the ring. when your opponent falls down, you can't keep hitting him. if you do, we will go backwards as humanity. It's a modern-day version of the medieval gladiatorial arena.
@historyking9984
@historyking9984 7 ай бұрын
I think it would be great to do a video on the Palestinian leadership, and Palestinian relations with surrounding Muslim countries and their history . The West Bank and Gaza were under Egypt and Jordans control for years. Jordan to this day has a large Palestinian population.How was that time and how did it compare to with Israel now and affect their relationships to this day? I think any peace long term has to involve the surrounding countries as well as Israel and Palestine . Also there seems to be separate Palestinian leadership in Hamas in Gaza and the PLO in the West Bank. Also there’s the Palestinian Diaspora who don’t live in Gaza or the West Bank and have a different experience and leaders.I’d assume people living in all three areas would have differing views and opinions. Who represents the Palestinians in these areas and who could be a potential leader for peace or an obstacle to it. Like I’ve seen people compare the Palestinian movement to the anti apartheid movement and the civil rights movement but with those movements there were clear known leaders. Martin Luther King Jr., Ella Baker,Fannie Lou Hammer,A Philip Randolph,John Lewis, Dorothy Irene Height, Roy Wilkins and more for the civil rights movement. The anti apartheid movement had leaders like Nelson Mandela;Desmond Tutu, Vella Pillay, Ros Ainslie, Abdul Minty and Nanda Naidoo. I don’t really know of many Palestinian leadership in comparison. Also within the leadership is there there a Martin Luther King / Ghandi non violent protest type leader or movement because the more violent conflict between Israel and Palestinians gets in the news and more attention. I heard of one march to the border sometime but not sure if there was an actual focused movement . Sorry for all the questions.
@JamesKerLindsay
@JamesKerLindsay 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Brilliant idea. This is a great topic. Let me see what I can do.
@stevejohnson3357
@stevejohnson3357 7 ай бұрын
The 2 sides know each other very well. It's almost as if they already have some sort of sub rosa agreement. If one side seems to be ready to settle, the other does something to torpedo it and they kind of take turns. But really its just that neither side wants 2 states so where does one start?
@terryfox9344
@terryfox9344 7 ай бұрын
The only "side" that want's "2 states" is a large group of utopian fools living in the US. They have no clue how impossible their dream is.
@zurielsss
@zurielsss 7 ай бұрын
Both sides are hijacked by their extremist arms in politics. Israel by Netanyahu and Palestine by Hamas, they are the 2 parties that are torpedoing any chance of peace
@danielwilkinson3173
@danielwilkinson3173 7 ай бұрын
Very unfair to suggest an occupier and occupied are equal by any means. Palestine are trying hard to just get a state and UN membership. They have no power to torpedo anything that the Israeli's do.
@brendasmart553
@brendasmart553 7 ай бұрын
@@danielwilkinson3173 thanks for this, as I mistook this as team usZion dysfunction in my initial too sleepy brain reply yikes?!!! usZion pits the game against Palestine & her people horribly and the whole military occupation has to stop! Sooner the better!!! Save Palestine -Save Humanity!! PEACE will follow...
@MartinPulleyblank
@MartinPulleyblank 7 ай бұрын
Am I correct in understanding that Hamas is not fundamentally Palestinian in creation or leadership but their troops are in some part acquired by enlistment of local Palestinians.
@terryfox9344
@terryfox9344 7 ай бұрын
You are essentially correct. Hamas is the military wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, which I believe was founded in Egypt. The rulers of Egypt fear Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, which is why they have closed their border and refuse to accept any Palestinians in their country. The primary difference between Hamas and the PLO/PLA is that Hamas is religious/Sunni Muslim, while the PLO/PLA are secular (originally backed by Russia).
@AntiDegenerate1971
@AntiDegenerate1971 7 ай бұрын
​@@terryfox9344 Hamas is actually backed by Iran now just like Hezbollah. These are mostly Iranian proxies.
@tomerkritz
@tomerkritz 7 ай бұрын
You should have described the internal political situation in Israel and the distinct possibility of a drastic change in Israel’s strategy after the probable upcoming elections in Israel that will decimate the likud party in Israel
@terryfox9344
@terryfox9344 7 ай бұрын
Are you one of Obama/Biden's advisors? Contrary to rich, leftist American Jews this war is NOT about internal Israeli politics, Biden's attempted overtures to Israeli Jews are a total disaster and fiasco, there are no upcoming elections, and if there were and Biden supports a party, that party might get 1% of the vote, at most. No one in Israel supports Biden or his evil puppet master, Obama. Hamas and Biden have destroyed the political left in Israel, just as Obama destroyed the Democrat Party in most of America.
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