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ISTP DAVE OF ALL PEOPLE and INTP Tim discuss the differences and similarities between their two types.
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Tim on ISTP vs INTP:
"So, some things I've noticed: (Painting with broad strokes of course)
ISTPs are better at so many things. It's not only sports, it's videogames, it's personal finance, it's business, it's sensory experience e.g. wine tasting, it's technique, it's how stuff works, it's working with their hands. Their pragmatism and connection to reality allows them to apply their Ti to the real world much more readily than INTPs. This doesn't always look like stereotypical "success." They totally might live in a van down by the river, but if so, they probably have a super-well-thought-out, custom-modified, highly-functional van by the river. And, it's because that's what they chose to do, definitely not because they couldn't hack it in life.
INTPs often abandon the things they're passionate about halfway through. When they figure out how they'd solve a problem, to the point that they're confident they could do it, they're often satisfied and don't necessarily feel the need to actually go do the thing in the real world. When the problem is solved, it stops being interesting, and INTPs often move on to the next shiny thing, leaving the first undone. This seems to be much less common for ISTPs. ISTPs generally prioritize what's important to them, and then go become absurdly competent in those things. They also seem to have less trouble 'playing the system' at work, whereas INTPs might be a little more idealistic and stubborn, trying to force things to be the way they 'should' be.
ISTPs can have a much stronger connection to their intuition than people give them credit for. The whole 'van by the river' thing? That can happen because their tertiary Ni is strong enough that they can 'see the matrix' of society and reject the parts of it that don't fit them. They are fiercely independent and are often quite aware of the box they're in. Maybe not as much as a Ni driver, but their Ni is still very real.
ISTPs share a similar relationship to their emotions as INTPs. Both have this Ti candy shell with a gooey child-like Fe center. Both, in their innermost-of-innermosts, just want somebody to love them. The ISTPs I've met, however, have been extremely guarded with their emotions. There seems to be this feeling (tert Ni?) for ISTPs that they always need to keep their cards close to their chest, and it takes a LOT of trust to get them to show vulnerability. INTPs can be this way too, (especially when directly facing rejection) but I think it's more common for INTPs to put themselves out there because Ne is so optimistic and willing to throw caution to the wind and just say stuff.
So what are INTPs good at? Hmm. Well, we're usually pretty decent at most things ISTPs are good at, with the exception of sports. I'd say we can get 80-90% there for many ISTP skills. But, while ISTPs tend to lean toward competence and mastery of skills, INTPs lean more toward high-concept abstract thinking. INTPs are mad scientists, artists, writers, iconoclasts, misfits and dreamers.
Admittedly, this can be kind of useless at times. It's not uncommon for an INTP to major in something like philosophy, theology, or theoretical physics, and then be unable to make a career out of it because it's so detached from the real world. It's not uncommon to see a brilliant INTP working some basic grocery store job and then going home to numb-out with videogames. Society really needs the INTP skillset, but provides relatively few opportunities for INTPs to apply what they're best at. That said, when INTPs get it right, they can REALLY get it right. See the laundry list of famous INTPs throughout history. Many of these INTPs have been dead for hundreds of years, yet we still inhabit the thought-fabric and intellectual categories they created."
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