It is getting embarrassing

[@Felixxje]

It was embarrassing in 2020, 5 years later it's still embarrassing

[@geenicoll2920]

I’ve accepted that the ID. Cars are just - as purchased 😂 if you are lucky you won’t have any trouble with it. I have zero expectations for OTA now

[@danielvasev7264]

Same here. The car is doing what i need… what more i can need… why u waiting on updates?

[@geenicoll2920]

I think Tesla sales media has convinced the world we need updates, and VW promised first adopters like Chris updates, so purchases were made on that basis. I’m lucky that Covid delayed my car so my expectations were quashed long before the car arrived 😂

[@mikehuxley9132]

I've had an ID5 since September, it came with 5.0, went to the garage last week, I'm now on 5.2. Not sure what's changed. Trying to find out.

[@tonevalentin]

@@mikehuxley9132nothing noteworthy

[@jullegaard90]

Having been living with a Model 3 since '21 each update often breaks more than it fixes or adds. 4 years in and the auto wipers are still not working properly, adaptive cruise is fine but does not react to changing speed zones. Autopilot is a mess still. I would take a finished car any day by this point. My next car will be a Skoda, VW or BMW.

[@witkowskimarcin4552]

I am a Tesla 3 user for more than 3 years and the software is just stunning. I am very sad to hear that Vw is still behind because I did not want to but a Tesla again (Musk reason).

[@andycanon1]

I’ve had an ID.4 for two years and I’ve had 3 updates. 2 in the workshop that took 10 and 8 days respectively, and 1 OTA, which surprisingly didn’t have any issues installing. We purchased a used model 3 on Saturday, and today it’s already had an update.

[@renofischa]

Did almost the same thing. Just from an ID.3 to a Model 3 two weeks ago. Tesla Software is just way better.

[@andycanon1]

@ we like driving the ID.4 and love how spacious it is, but charging and software let’s it down. The lack of battery preheating is a killer. The highest charging speed I’ve seen in the VW from a low state of charge was around 80 kWh. I do appreciate there is a lot of factors than impact charging speeds, but I got more than double that on all three charging sessions in the Tesla on the journey home from Southampton to Glasgow.

[@HerrElscheud]

What a lenghty way to proclaim ones support of a fascist. Nonetheless: Thats why even most germans wont buy VW atm but anything else as an BEV.

[@ReddoFreddo]

​​@@HerrElscheudTesla doesn't make money from used cars.

[@John_S_NL]

If you want to feel better about your VW ID car, then drive a Stellantis EV for a while. Trust me, that is really bad.

[@nakfan]

We are considering buying the new Citroen ë-c3 - from your comment I gather that you would not be recommending that?!😬 Hyundai Inster and Renault 5 electric is also in play... BR, Per (Denmark)

[@Seblejedi]

Did you drive the Peugeot 5008 ? Infotainement is really great and design is 10 years ahead of VW. Please have a look on competitors before giving an opinion.

[@John_S_NL]

@ So how is the fast charging going? And how satisfied are you with the app? Did you manage to make some charge planning with the app? It is a good looking car, i agree.

[@John_S_NL]

@ e-C3 has more basic tech. But has more space. I think Inster and R5 are the better EV's, but smaller.

[@adamskiuk]

I wish I was on 4.something. Still on 3.2. I occasionally get a message there is an update, but it then disappears.

[@testi2025]

There is no path from 3.x to 4.x

[@vivaladokky]

Most likely 3.7. Unfortunately many cases where that OTA bricked some cars, so hopefully that won't happen. For us on 3.x ver4 is never coming out..

[@bst1623]

I have a Cupra Born and that experience has led me to decide, when it is returned at the end of the lease, not to drive another VW group car until the Rivian partnership takes effect. It's not like the software was okay out of the box, it's full of bugs. My current one, because they come and go, is for the passenger side climate to blow LO when I am pre-heating the car, even though I have set the temperature in the app to 19 degrees. It's just not good enough.

[@jasonlowes223]

you have to change that in the settings. A/C for driver side only. either have it on or off.

[@simondehaas8784]

I got my ID3 in Jan 22 , it was built on 2.3. It got 2.4 at the dealer, 3.0 OTA, 3.2 at the dealer, 3.7 OTA. I got my ID4 used earlier this year, it is same age as our ID3, had2.4 at the dealer, 3.2 at the dealer and now 3.7 OTA. All those updates worked fine with no problems. Both cars are running fine and the only bug is that the ID4 windows sometimes go the wrong way. I would like preheating for charging but otherwise 3.7 is fine and more updates would be a negative.

[@Jeeveedeeen]

My id.7 from 31-12-24 has had 2 updates so far. It was delivered with 5.0. In the frist week or so it got 5.1 and now it has 5.2.

[@viktorb6530]

Auch that hurts to hear! I have got 44 updates since i bought my Model 3 RWD in feb 2023 👍🏻

[@jullegaard90]

How is your automatic speed assist working for you? And how about the auto wipers? My model 3 from 2021 is still not good in any these essential areas.

[@viktorb6530]

@ i seldom use speed assist, but the times ive used it, it worked ok but not flawless. The auto wipers works ok nowadays, but in certain conditions i use them manually. None of these are essential for me, ive driven many many cars for many years without any of them 😅 yes, im old 👴🏻

[@xaviersabio]

As a former Tesla owner i must say we place too much importance to ota updates. In Tesla the major updates were to provide functionality that should have come from factory like matrix headlights or autopark

[@wannabeowner]

Whilst I don't disagree, a VW ID owner has issues that should not have been there since factory, but remain unfixed. Amongst the OTA updates from Tesla are things that are truly worthwhile (e.g. improvements to air bag deployment based on real crash data)

After 5 years driving a Tesla I got an Audi Q6 a month ago, the software experience is so far behind (even though it is running this new Android Automotive OS), I agree that is is sad.

[@TTTT-oc4eb]

Is the drainage of the 12-volt battery a common issue with the ID.7? It got better after I turned off the keyless door opening, which seemed to have caused the issue in the first place, but the issue still seems to be there. "Can't do that or this" because the 12-volt battery is low on energy warning.

[@poseiidon2029]

@@TTTT-oc4eb I didn’t even know my ID.5 had a 12 volt battery until I read this comment, I assumed the 77Kwh battery fed the entire car, this is quite the revelation 😆

[@TTTT-oc4eb]

@@poseiidon2029 I'm new to EVs, so I didn't really think about before I started receiving warnings. Probably a good sign you haven't had any warnings;-)

[@poseiidon2029]

@@TTTT-oc4eb Yeah I got my ID.5 in September and it’s my first electric car and one of the things I thought was it’s great having that massive battery because now I won’t have to worry about a little 12v going flat……how wrong was I haha

[@ScarVEN3]

You should switch on a setting via app which activates the 12V support by the HV battery. In english it should be something like "optimized battery usage." This must be an extra setting, as it affects the energy consumption guaranteed in the data sheet.

[@TTTT-oc4eb]

@@ScarVEN3 Thanks for the advice, I actually did just that right after i wrote the last reply. So far, so good👍

[@MarcoDrigo83]

La cosa più imbarazzante è stato portare l'auto dal meccanico per l'aggiornamento e riaverla dopo 6 settimane perché si è bloccato tutto.

[@rudolfvandenbergh4641]

When I bought my ID,3 first software updates were really neccesary because a lot of things were wrong with the software. I have now a ID.3 gtx and there is not much to wish for anymore

[@michaeldehert]

I got my ID7 Pro S Tourer in December with 5.0 and I’m OTA to 5.2 already. Charging level is now set standard at 90%. Do you have the 2 Sim cards with data installed?

[@pasilehto]

Later cars with 5.0 have received some updates (5.1, 5.2) and I think even 4.1 have been updated, but 4.0 launch time cars have not received anything.

[@thomasfrank9174]

Running an Enyaq 80x (Mj 2023) which had 3.6 out of the factory and got 3.7 a few months ago via OTA. VAG don't get their feed on the ground with their software. Massive (but certainly necessary HW changes) prevent updates to 4.x for first gen. cars. But even 4.x to 5.x seems to be too difficult. The car is actually great and the best car I've owned so far. But it's 2025 and there a certain expectations to modern cars - up-to-date software with updated/optimised assistants, etc. As long as VAG don't provide proof that they are willing and actually provide support their models over generations I'm going to ignore them.

[@poseiidon2029]

My ID.5 has 4.1 and had no updates since I got it in September but it works very well with no issues so I’m not too bothered about it

[@thomasfrank9174]

@@poseiidon2029 Fair. 3.7 works for me as well. I can even live without preheating. On the other side: What did the devs do that made them create all those other versions? What did they fix/add/optimise? Important fixes? New features? Whoopie-cushions?

[@testi2025]

5.0 for 4.x should happen during spring. This is what my vw dealer told me. First ID7 and then 4 and 5.

[@chrishar110]

Some times an update can not be done at cars that are at an older version OTA. They might have to update them in the shop.

[@DumfriesDik]

My ID3 is 18 months old. I’ve had zero updates and I’m on 3.2!

[@marcradermacher6244]

I'm so glad that I got rid of my ID.3, even for the few bucks I've got for it. The fact that OTA never worked and I had to leave the car two times for a total of 6 days at the shop for updates is beyond embarrassing.

[@DumfriesDik]

@@marcradermacher6244 I pick up a new Enyaq next week!! VW software is pants, they can't even get the cabin colours to stay as you want, always goes back to blue.

[@silviuguseila2552]

Actually you do get an OTA update each month in the background for the maps. Tesla foes it only every 6 months or so and you have to give it Wi-Fi access and press a few buttons... Not as smooth as the completely invisible process in the ID3

[@marcradermacher6244]

@@silviuguseila2552 What are updates for that never fix wrong maps for three years?

[@DumfriesDik]

@ I wouldn’t count map updates as software updates.

[@foxinou]

I've got my ID5 in March 24 with 4.1 on it and I didn't get any update at all... I really would like to get the 5.0 mainly to be able to use Plans or Wave GPS with the headup display. It's really disappointing how it goes

[@theflyingtimtam]

Sadly I think this is general problem with cariad, they just can’t get it right. I mean even the new Audi/Porsche PPE Plattform, which is advertised as an over the air architecture, is still unable to the OTA updates. And that runs on android automotive (just like Polestar/Volvo)

[@codrin84]

I had a first generation Skoda Enyaq. I've waited 3 years for an update just to show the consumption in the dashboard. Never again!

[@silviuguseila2552]

Well, Tesla promised functional auto-wipers function for years now... Still not quite there yet.

[@jullegaard90]

​@@silviuguseila2552exactly - at least the Enyaq is a complete car in the areas that really matter. My 2021 Model 3 is still poor in this regard..

[@matteo0026.]

Can't you do anything directly with Volkswagen in order to force them to change the pace of the software updates? I think when we users comply about this topic and others, it seems talking with nobody and not getting any feedback.

[@nicolaidknicolai]

My 5.0 just updated to 5.2 - had it for 3 months. 4.x does not update to 5.0

[@alano6724]

dealership udated my id 4 pro s but still i cannot see which updates i have ? doesnt show

[@leos7471]

Yup I have a 2024 ID4 and it’s disappointing that it hasn’t received any updates. I figured with the update in the new hardware. The update situation would get better, not worse. I wouldn’t say there are catastrophic bugs with version 4.0 but there are enough little glitches in missing features that updates would definitely not go amiss

[@StopaskingformynameYouTube]

Thanks for this video, my decicion to go for the iD platform (enyaq) is now not final, and i will considder other manufacturers that actually provides upgrades after the car is sold.

[@thomasfrank9174]

Owning an Enyaq 80x (3.7) - fantastic car for our family. New models with 4.x or even 5.x have solved many of the 1st gen issues. If you can just live with the state the car is in on delivery you'll be fine. Just don't look to other brands...

[@bjornmu]

I've had my ID.3 for almost 3 years and had one OTA update (3.2). I got a message while driving that it had downloaded, but I thought it had "forgotten", because it took over a month until I finally got the message that I could install it. 🙄

[@tomquimby8669]

my 20 year old golf never got an software update and it is still going strong

[@dachsdk1559]

But does it need any updates? I mean, number of updates isn't a goal in it self, the ideal would be a finished product out of the gate, no?

[@Chimp_No_1]

Great point !

[@koma-k]

Getting updates doesn't imply it wasn't finished when you bought it. Sure, some of the updates are bugfixes, which in an ideal world shouldn't be necessary, but for our Teslas a lot is new features, or in the case of our old Model S - a major user interface redesign less than a year after we bought it 2nd hand. As they've gathered more statistics on battery charging and degradation they've changed the curves to apply the new knowledge. The only instance I can think of where I can sort of accept the "not finished" argument is in case of the Model Y, which was built with matrix headlights for, I think, close to two years before they finally had the software ready to activate them just under a year ago. They were never advertised as having matrix headlights befre that though, so for owners it felt like suddenly getting a major headlight upgrade for free.

[@Taakeheim]

A lot of the software requires timely updates to get rid of vulnerabilities. VAG uses quite a few open source software components that are a handful of years old already. And the ID cars still dont have a trip history in the app (because of missing trip logging from the car) and several other things that older Golfs and Passats had. While a finished product out of the gate was the norm a decade ago - cars today rely a lot more on technology that requires a regular update schedule.

[@rikimarizard]

The ID card were far from finished out of the gate and software updates were promised to not only fix the issues but somehow catch up to Tesla. 5 years later and most of the existing issues are still there on ID3

[@marcohillenga5068]

I don’t care about OTA. The only thing I care about is getting the pre-heating for the battery, nothing more, nothing less. I don’t expect any more from a car.

[@testi2025]

This will not happen. Only possibility is to buy a car with version 4.x

[@muten861]

​@@testi2025why do you write such unsourced opinion as a fact?

[@testi2025]

@@muten861 do you have contradicting information? You can use deductive reasoning to come to this conclusion. It’s obvious that the pre-heating requires a different module AND software changes, something they will not produce to a five years old platform.

[@muten861]

@@testi2025 you stated unsourced things. Its up to you, to deliver some facts, not me. And no, VW never said that 3.7 is the latest update. Furthermore some ressources say that there is another update for 3.x-Id's in work, especially with the battery preheating feature, which is stated e.g. by Klaus Zellmer, head of Skoda, which are using the same platform. And no, there is no hardware issue, which is preventing the 3.X-Id's from battery preheating, because they did it in the very early 2.x Software versions, which then was erased with the 3.x-Versions. So stay at the facts and dont blow out unsourced opinions as facts...

[@makea7564]

​@muten861 You're right. There was battery heating. My -21 GTX was a little faster when charged, but down side was battery usage. Winter it was about 25 to 30 easily, but now 3.7? It's about 23 kw/h

[@goodspeed01]

I have driven Tesla since 2020. Approx. 5-8 OTA per year. New features, bug fixing, upgrades for free etc. Never a VW for me...

[@paulpopplestone7837]

Totally agree, the VW OTA update performance is more than disappointing. But what bugs me even more is your point that as an early adopter, VW doesn’t ‘reward your loyalty’ by updating you as soon as new software releases are available. Instead, it puts new software on the new production cars and leaves you to fall behind making it feel like you are punished for being an early adopter.

[@berdugosocials9854]

Here in the Southern Hemisphere we don’t have VW OTA, we go to the dealer every servicing year and wait for 1-2 days to get the car patched.

[@descb600f]

Same with the Ariya, one update in 2023 and now cars have to go back to the dealer for an update so you will get OTA updates, much promised after the dealer update and nothing delivered.

[@timofthomas]

I just got my first Enyaq update from 3.2 (as delivered) to 3.7 and the vehicle is now 2 years old. Good old VAG.....

[@rudolfvandenbergh4641]

I think they gave up for MEB (cariad) and focus on rivian technology for the future

[@racemouse5014]

you are SO right! Still on 4.x on my ID.7 from 11-23. I did, however, before my ID.7 own an Ioniq6. Software OTA there was a joke. Bought it in november and the next year in august there was an update. None of the bugs was fixed but a feature was added to silence the speed warning - so I guess i'm kind of used to it 😞 It is embaraasing that a startup, Tesla, knows how to handle the software ecosystem. On the software front they are miles ahead of any competetion. A proud old company, the second biggest car manufacturer in the world measured on units - still has no idea what value proper software handling adds to the business. It's sad...

[@Barry-l1x]

I have 2022 ID5 have had Three over the air updates, easy to install. Gone from 3.2 now on 3.7

[@leo-one]

Yes It s a shame. If I don't receive anything, I won't take anymore Volkswagen.. it's pity because i like my id 7.

[@enyaq_gorm]

My car works and has lots of features from the factory. My old car (tesla model 3)got lots of updates but they fixed things and then broke new things every time. The new features they added were present from launch on my MEB car

[@TassieEV]

This is how a proper software development is done, includes the full changelog so you know what the current update fixes but also all the previous ones well done to Volvo & Polestar. So is this a hint you MAY be looking at a Volvo for your next car? 😃

[@RWBHere]

Thanks for the report. We're really glad that we didn't buy a VW. This is looking like yet another reason never to buy one. The company cannot be trusted.

[@bmallory]

Received my car in 2022, I guess I had 3 to 4 updates ( some small where nothing really changes, some big) all done via OTA. It was a first "revision car" where they added side sensors. It was shipped with 3.2 I guess the first edition is where the majority of issues where but hey : you signed up for this! Never buy a first MY of any car Now I hear that the hyper hyped Renault 5 here in France has issues too...

[@MRNIELSEN_DK]

The update process in a Tesla is super good. But the updates are annoying when they change the way autopilot behave in different weather conditions. So updates can give both good new features but on the other hand it can give some annoying changes.

[@connclissmann6514]

Tesla set the tone. Typically a 20 minute job. Any owner has the same software as the latest new car. The Chinese manufacturers followed in their initial steps. The Koreans are close (they don't tell you what was updated). VW Group still sore they haven't a clue! My daughter's early ID 3 has been practically abandoned by VW. Can't even unlock her car remotely. VW: fine for ICE, don't bother with EV until they fix software. Sad! My first car was a VW Golf Gen 1 but now would avoid the brand.

[@AF-eq4hf]

I've had my ID.7 launch edition since November 2024, 'second hand car', all is great with the car. Just checked and it's showing as software 4.8.1.

[@HansMilling]

VW has always been notoriously bad at making software. They hired and eventually bought a Chinese company to handle the software of the ID line of cars, but they still suck at doing software.

[@hadtobe4502]

Thanks for sharing. It is detrimental to VW when other brands can do OTA's.

[@ErikJanousek]

I believe in some Skoda review it was mentioned 5.x sw are having different hw than 4.x . If is the case with VW too you wont get 5.0 then :) But sure, they could still do update 4.xy with some improvments as the 5.x has.

[@ReSt77]

I agree! Our ID.7 from april 2024 did not get an updates yet. Its on 4.2 and i really hope to get 5.x. If i ask at the dealership they dont know when the update will come. I was hoping they could do an update if I ask.

[@muten861]

Fun fact: most of the updates of MEB pre 3.7 contained according to VW some improvwments on OTA-updateability. And as we where naive firat mover, we thought always "but now its really OTA-ready 😂🎉 no it wasn't😅

[@rgen28]

they are waiting for Rivian to save them

[@robertmarsh3588]

What an insane situation when a car needs ota updates to gain features or functionality that should be there from new. I don't understand why customers are tolerating this ridiculous game that manufacturers are inflicting.

[@zerofox3d]

I remember when I got the ID3 thinking “they’ll fix this stupid user system quick because I can’t check my car in the app when the wife’s driving, that’s just dumb” 3 years later they’re fixing it just as my lease ends. Bye VW!

[@jockb7192]

Yes Volvo and Polestsar updates frequently via OTA but they need to get to an acceptable baseline of functionality. Drove a Polestar 3 for 4 days the other week and the software was trash. So much glitches and random functionality. I actually changed the car to a Polestar 4 because of it being so bad. The PS 4 worked better but still laggy software unresponsive screen and every time you locked the car and got back it would default all settings of the car and infotainment. Would never pay the price Polestar wants for there cars whit what you get SW wise right now.

[@goforsteve3042]

Totally agree! I'm interested in Kia EV3 and seems they have the same over the mobile network update only which is stupid.

[@alangravy27]

Shows how bad the Volvo must have been at launch. Some reviews said it just wasn't ready at launch.

[@loicminois8072]

Whahh , a email !! Why not a Fax ? We are in 2025 , not in 1990

[@cdohm]

A lot of updates is not necessarily a good thing. If you have a crappy software that needs a lot of fixing you might push updates faster which then leed to more problems and need another update to fix the new problems. Nevertheless steady progress would leed to more than 0 upgrades. The 5.0 or 5.2 works fine so it does not need continous fixing but it is not perfect and there could be slow and steady improvements.

[@GreenPuma150]

In March I will return my ID4 finally. Moving to Hyundai, really fed um with VW.

[@ademcguinness8132]

Our ID3 PCP ends and will go back this time 2026 and we will NEVER purchase another VW. For far too long they have taken their customers for granted and their service centres / dealerships are now so awful its becoming a national joke here in the UK and both ourselves and our wider family members (who all own current / new VW's) have also stated they will not purchase an VW in the future. Worst case is our elderly parents who ordered and purchased a brand new Tiguan which has spent nearly 2 months in the dealership with them failing to correct / update the software which would prevent it being effectively bricked when locked. Shocking !

[@SimonRGates]

In 3 years my local VW dealer (Marshalls Reading, if anyone in SE England is reading) has completely failed to update our ID3 from it original software or do the battery update, it's been booked in 5 times now and every time there's some excuse. They did charge £350 for the first service though where they... changed the pollen filter.

[@colonelccccc]

Switched to Toyota, never going back to the arrogant VAG.

[@muten861]

​@@colonelccccc but Toyota isnt better, at least if you qant aome infotainment. Toyota has a good reliability, but a terrible infotainment.

[@JohnErnestAdam]

The requirement of updates to be delivered via the cellular network while driving is extremely narrow minded for my customer base in the US. I have Gigabit Internet 6 feet away from the vehicle when parked at home. My cell reception is spotty at best. Why can't we just connect to home WiFi and press update and have it change the version number when done. Yes. Embarrassing, but the only thing worse would be many updates that cause issues. That being said, I love my 1st Edition 2023 ID.4 with 40K miles.

[@christopherhartley6900]

Comparing this to a Tesla is hilarious, still surprises me just how far behind many of the legacy OEMs are. Well done Volvo for being better than many of the others.

[@Psi-Storm]

Just pushing out 10 updates a year doesn't mean that the software is better than one without updates.

[@koma-k]

@@Psi-Storm not necessarily, no, but it *does* mean that they have a well-designed and *working* platform for OTA updates, so they are actually able to push out updates - be they bugfixes or new features - without having to involve the service network and the costs that incurs to both owner and manufacturer.

[@uhl3706]

@@Psi-Storm I'd say it's quite the opposite. I'm rather happy my windscreen wipers don't need software updates to make them work almost automatically in some cases...

[@espenn]

Cariad (VW software division) is one of the reasons i left Skoda. Coming from Polestar and Tesla, Skoda was such a huge letdown in regards to software! Like it was not engineered from the ground up as an electric car. MEB plattform got outdated really fast, embarrassing from one of the biggest OEM's globally.

Hope VW get it better now.

[@barryw9473]

Nice - just like my 2017 e-Golf. I called VW USA and asked if VW would update car software to correctly implement the J1772 charging protocol. VW USA told me it will not update e-Golf software. Sorry.

[@carlomorischi3435]

VW should really improve the software on ID models, regardless of the Rivian partnership which will bring results in 2028. Just copy everything from Tesla. Also is ID.2 going to have yet another software stack? They currently have - 1st gen ID cars -which arrived up to 3.0- - 2nd gen ID cars (5.0) - PPE Android based software stack - J1 software stack - MEB small android based software stack - SSP software stack with Rivian partnership This is just crazy. Any company would have issues with this level of fragmentation.

[@biboKralle]

Don't buy German if you want something digital! A wrench or something, yes. But nothing digital. :)

[@pka8514]

My Enyaq got ME3.7 update last week. Update failed and broke the car. After a week I still have no idea when car will be fixed. I would prefer no updates...

[@jellyd4889]

I have no issues with the v5.0 in Sept 24 id4. Dont they dare touch my running system....

[@Laumania]

Its really sad as it seems like VW really have a winner on their hand with the ID.7....

[@CoxJul]

Coming to the end of my 4 year lease of an id.4 1st ed (uk), its software only tried to kill me 4 times this week! This was from the unacknowledged (but very repeatable) bug where if you approach a give-way junction or roundabout (not a complete stop) and are in a slow crawl when you put your foot down to jump into a gap opportunity, it bogs down leaving you becalmed in the path of oncoming vehicles (sometimes at high speeds). My next car will not be a VW group car. On an id.4 forum several owners have reported this to VW or their dealer but it isn't believed/acknowledged as a problem.

[@tonevalentin]

I got my ID5 in June 2023 with software 5.0. Since then I got 3-4 update related to ADAS and Powertrain (VW statement). Probably trimming/calibrations. Then last year I got 5.2 and didn’t see anything new. Disappointed

[@fredrikfreden5490]

The new hardware wasn’t released in 2023 so no way your timeline is correct.

[@tonevalentin]

@ my mistake. You are right. It was 3.2 and switched to 3.7

[@babnu]

Tesla motors best part is no part!!indicator stalk etc gone VW. Best update no update. Enjoy!!!

[@frankbjrnsten7189]

Just heard today from a vw that cars with 4.1 dont get 5.0 -5.2 i had my car checket for the stupid plastic charge lock.

[@raker0]

i understand the frustration about updates, more so when you see company like tesla, volvo and other chines brand like BYD push OTA more and more frequently. VW cars are better engineered (just check munro live and other highly specialized channel) if you look a the raw hardware, unfortunately VW and all the others european manifacturer still do not realize that to do appealing cars you first have to create a solid software.

[@tobiasbraun2328]

I don’t care about OTA. The only thing I care about is getting the pre-heating for the battery. I am on 3.2 with the Cupra Born.

[@AnotherAmateurCarChannel]

with 3.2 you won't get it... new hardware needed for that sadly... I got my Born in 11/2025 with software 5.0 which is running fine, but for example, I am missing the Tidal app in there, and the routing should have better options... all in all, car is great!

[@renofischa]

They made huge promises when they launched the ID.3. Especially also the battery preheating. I owned one from April 2021, but gave up on VW two weeks ago and switched to a used Model 3. Almost the same age, but I've already received an Update...

[@cosmicpop]

This is precisely why VW are teaming up with Rivian.

[@celeneg]

My ID7 got updated to 4.1.3 at the dealer and it did not fix the massage stopping after couple minutes. Next they replace the massaging pillows in few weeks to try to fix it. Those got replaced to driver seat already 6 months ago but they will try again by replacing them on both seats.

[@stormadgg2899]

Got my ID4, in september software 4.1, no updates yet, still every video on youtube from july had software 5.x? So luckily it is a lease car, never a vw again.

[@johnm7251]

The software in my Lexus NX350H in Australia is awful and I have no update in 16 months

[@JohnoEx]

VW have not launched a single EV in Australia yet, it might be too late for them as our market is flooded with new Chinese EVs that start as low as AU$30,000 for the BYD Dolphin.

[@69michas]

Vielleicht ist die Software Deine ID 7 ja ausgereift. Also, nur vielleicht ;)

[@MarcoPon]

Tesla updates in 2024: 30 - in 2025, so far: 3. VW whole OTA affair is more than embarrassing: it's unacceptable, IMHO. I'm sure the "rest" of the car is valid, but the update infrastructure is very important nowadays, especially in an EV.

[@mikadavies660]

What is embarrassing.... That Volvo "need" so many updates OR that VW just cannot sort out their dreadful software?

[@thomasfrank9174]

It depends. What do those Volvo updates provide? Loads of bugfixes? Promised but at release time missing features? That would be embarrassing. New features/improvements on the other hand I'd consider service and support. Things VAG does have room for improvement.

[@UgglemannenFTW]

Both are embarrasing

[@olivierc1310]

Is there a need for an update?

[@JOK3R_DK]

We all know VW can build fantastic cars and are the kings for automechanics, but they need to put all their money in software development. Maybe they should start doing it themselves - It will be pricey to start up - yes, but they will also be able to control every aspect of the software development!!!

[@thomasfrank9174]

Well VW does build their software inhouse: CARIAD. But they failed miserably. SW 4.x and younger is incompatible with 1st gen MEB cars due to massive HW changes. But even with the newer branches 4.x and 5.x they seem to have issues even though they have MEB development alongside software development...

[@SimonRGates]

That was the problem, they switched from external suppliers to in-house, built a 1500 person dev department, and failed completely because they had no experience managing a complex software project.

[@cmdrstevemcmaru7417]

@@SimonRGates Hopefully, Rivian can solve the VW software problems, but I suspect that we will not benefit from the Rivian deal with the current ID.s we bougth. I own a 2024 ID.4 pro S AWD and do have some software issues from time to time (especially infotainment system rebooting and automatic wiper to stop working). VW is rolling out software updates for older ID.4 as part of a recall in North America to fix failing driver displays, but I don't get an update on my car. Really sad.

[@Sturge0519]

VW are miles behind when it comes to EV’s and software, the ID7 is my first and last VW. The Chinese cars are coming and VW is going to be in trouble.

[@Civato]

If it works, you don't need a update.

[@fabianobenedetti6692]

IMO, there are cars that need OTA much more than others...

[@markusnagel4814]

Skoda Enyaq for four years.... lots of promises, almost all broken. Three updates in four years, all at the dealer. Still no OTA updates of the core software... some worthless updates of optional software. Long story short - lease contract ends in two months, never, ever will I consider Skoda or VAG again. Kia EV9 already ordered. Enyaq is an otherwise nice car, but the software (3.7, "old" Enyaqs won't get new features- glad I didn't buy, as it's already obsolete...) is just crap. Good riddance.

[@alangravy27]

Most updates are patches which bring in further risks.

[@jorgmethfessel5774]

VW just cant software...

[@ralfo1704]

for many people ota is annoying. VW drivers maybe dont like to be bothered with it.

[@SirHackaL0t.]

There are OTA updates… for the infotainment system. They seem to update them regularly.

[@Rafimursed]

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[@jamesmonks]

Having owned Volkswagens for a very long time car great software rubbish has always been the case and I really can’t see that changing and might be there downfall

[@hangterisaan]

Why update something that's close to perfect? 😊

[@stigronnysuleskard5299]

Updates for new features are good, but for fixing errors not so much :P

[@johannesschorr6534]

Updates are overrated.