It's 2023: Is Magento Dead?

I've been a Magento developer for over a decade, and I've heard the question a lot: Is Magento Dead? I have many strong opinions of Magento + Adobe, and here's my take.
0:00 - Introduction
0:20 - Track Record
2:13 - Ecosystem
3:49 - Open Source
5:28 - Adobe
9:16 - One More Thing
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[@TomDollar]

Great vid Mark. We’re still all-in with a Magento and don’t plan on moving. One thing - you said MSI is a commerce feature - it’s part of Open Source too ;)

[@MarkShust]

Yes I misspoke, stick on the past 😅 It used to be Commerce-only. Thanks for correcting!

[@Fatman305]

Happy birthday, Magento!

[@MarkShust]

Definitely... no one has mentioned this anywhere. 15 years is an accomplishment! 🙌

[@ss1bomber]

Magento 2 has to be the most unstable and poorly designed ecom platform i’ve ever used. I'm worried that if I edit the homepage I will break it, I can't mass upload products, the backend is super slow, I have to spend money updating apps and magento versions, its not set up for google core web vitals, the offers always reset themselves, the indexing never works, the inventory oversells when inputted manually, i have to deal with external hosting, the reports don't work and are untrustworthy, I can't sell on ebay using magento inventory. I'm constantly trying to fix errors rather than actually sell stuff. And if i ever want anything fixed that’s a load of cash to a dev. awful

[@MarkShust]

Hey @ss1bomber, I get your frustration with Magento 2, and honestly, it's not flawless. But hear me out. Creating backups and testing changes on staging sites can save you from breaking the homepage. Use tools and seek community support for bulk uploads, and don't hesitate to nudge your hosting provider for backend optimization. It might take some effort to get used to, but eventually, you might find it more useful than you thought. Hang in there and see if things improve 👍

[@ss1bomber]

@@MarkShust I’ve given up Mark. Swapping to Shopify. I’ve done M1 and M2 so I’ve given it a fair go. Like I said, the indexing rarely works, the backend is grinding to a halt, the system makes up inventory so I oversell stock. No point in having a flexible system if it can’t get the basics right. Might be easier if you can code or have a team of devs babysitting it, but for the vast majority of ecom merchants its not worth the hassle, time and money.

[@hansphung]

@@ss1bombertotally agree. As a Magento developer for almost 10 years since M1, I find it makes thing way too complicated, and it’s even worse on M2. Slow boostraping, slow routing, slow layout and template rendering, poorly classes and database designs, slow checkout, outdated frontend technologies. You have minimal chances to get a high page speed score with it, unless spending 1000 euros on something called Hyva theme. It out of the box cannot handle high volume of traffic. I stopped the learning path with Magento and moving on other e-commerce platforms or headless.

[@v12alpine]

@@hansphung been a M1 and M2 dev for over 10 years, the slowness you experience is not typical. You need to optimize the hosting and configuration for best practices. One of my stores has millions of orders and processes hundreds per day. Front end is lightening fast, back end is not as snappy as front end but perfectly usable.

[@Lomaster2010]

@@v12alpine yep, the same for me, I worked on several stores and they are both was quite fast on frontend, usually cache solved everything. In my opinion M2 is slow and over-engineered but it still do the trick.

[@user-px2ll2ek7x]

awesome explaination Mark (y) kudos

[@MarkShust]

Thank you sir, glad you liked it! 👍

[@DeepShah2511]

Hey Mark, How are you? Great video, I like it.

[@MarkShust]

Thanks Shah, glad you liked it! 👍

[@fabioquintana7148]

I have been developing projects with Magento since 2007, and so far the best until these days 2024 is Magento!. My experience with all the other player's "e-commerce carts" are behind...and you get stuck at some point. Long life Magento.

[@MarkShust]

Yup Magento stands alone 🫡

[@cnkskmn]

There are 2 things i think missing on this video, 1-There is no default admin credentials. 2- 2 factor authentication is enabled by default. Even admin puts his email to get authenticator barcode, there is no email sent. Possible solutions: 1- disable 2 factor authentication 2-create admin user via cli command

[@MarkShust]

If you are looking to disable 2FA in dev, check out the module I created at github.com/markshust/magento2-module-disabletwofactorauth You can create an admin user via CLI automatically during setup time, which is what I've always done for many years. You can see an example of this in my docker-magento setup at github.com/markshust/docker-magento/blob/master/compose/bin/setup-install#L27-L31

[@aurelioflores4571]

Hi Mark, how can I find the live magento sites in Mexico?, best regards

[@MarkShust]

BuiltWith probably isn’t 100% accurate, but has decent stats which will give you a general idea of the figures trends.builtwith.com/shop/Magento/Mexico

[@alinadrian52]

Hey Mark alldo i still do magento eavry day for the last 6 years I started seeing a shift to shopware being more fast and having better backend functionality already out of the box (example the translation) this dose not mean it is deaing but there are bethere open source solutions that do more then magento and are faster. Please prove me worng.

[@MarkShust]

I don’t know of any open source eCommerce platform that has more features than Magento.

[@igetpaidtocode]

NEVER. Of course shopify going wild in the next years but its like comparing apples to oranges still!

[@MarkShust]

Yea it really is, they are two completely different solutions. When any smaller merchant asks me about eCommerce, I always direct them to Shopify, since it's so much easier to set up and get going, and is way cheaper. It may continue to work and scale really well! But some merchants need complete control over everything, which is where it starts to fall short. I think we'll start to see deflection back to systems like Magento and away from SaaS over time, at least for the larger merchants.

[@stuartbird8876]

​@@MarkShust We have had larger merchants leave our hosting platform to move over to Shopify. It is not unusual for them to return back to us and back to Magento. Lack of certain functionalities that they previously took for granted are the main reason.

[@MarkShust]

@@stuartbird8876 the grass is always greener! 😄🐮💚

[@kylewiley]

why magento still using old technologies ? cause it dead

[@MarkShust]

Ok sure 😄

[@asianwankster]

Where did you get that Magento lamp?😆

[@MarkShust]

Ha… all of the tech speakers at Meet Magento Florida this year got one! I love it 😍

[@Omeostatica]

Magento is definitively dead.

[@MarkShust]

That's how I'm able to make a living teaching it! 😂