It's Finished! The 6 Valve Trumpet - Part 2

[@alexcarter8807]

Don't be so hard on yourself; I think that squared-off tubing makes it look cool. I mean, just the fact that you went ahead and built the thing is impressive as hell. Look at how people are always talking about how they're "gonna" do this or that, well, you actually did it.

[@chillbrass8000]

I agree I've tried to fix a French horn on my channel

[@azxtnt]

@@chillbrass8000 you have no videos :(

[@1901annemarie]

Its impressive how you get such a good sound on 2 40 dollar trumpets that you put together

[@joemomma45]

now time to make double slide trombone with the cheapest trombones

[@berxsol]

Ty Baird that is so bizarrw, I absolutely want to see it!

[@brettclark4096]

Ty Baird or his own superbone, one slide along with a valve block from a piston trombone

[@CzornyLisek]

Such trombones isn't anything special(with double slide and/or valves). He even owned at least one of those.

[@Clarisaxx22]

a contrabass trombone from 2 cheap trombones

[@joemomma45]

Tommy Brain thats what i was trying to say yes

[@112BALAGE112]

The five valve trumpet has officially been defeated.

[@yumatei]

coming soon: two slide trombone

[@nicholastrombone9899]

Already a thing cough cough contrabass trombone cough cough.

[@riverchaney292]

@@nicholastrombone9899 but they are not _independant_

[@abedinsubashi]

Take to slides, put one in front of another, connect them and you have a super long slide

[@RealTimeFun]

@@abedinsubashi How is that playable?

[@RealTimeFun]

Probably connect the slides and join the bells, and use a mount to the human. That way, left hand is one slide, right is other. You will always be playing chords, however, unless both slides are in the same position.

[@PaddieFunk]

At 5:05 when the fourth valve malfunctioned you actually got the quarter note of the Rast arabic maqam

[@rodrigroudon1872]

It’s because the 4th one isn’t oiled

[@a_literal_brick]

You could probably get more money than that thing's worth if you sell it on eBay.

[@twelvetears7653]

I'm sure Wessex Tubas could probably use this prototype to make a much better one

[@Clarisaxx22]

wessex would probably sell it too. make it more ergonomic too. probably 4 valves with 2 rotaries

[@kj4ilk]

SaxSavage watch some mnzoli brass the tuba player in some video's either plays standard three or a 6 valve 3 piston two rotary

[@bonemack]

Excellent! Congratulations! Careful, though. You'll wind up with a garage full of "donor" instruments like me.

[@bananapisz]

I just love how he played Crown 2019 Ballad

[@bryanray1235]

Thats pretty amazing that you got those garbage of brand trumpets to be something no one has every seen before. I was really interested in how you would put them together, but good work Trent good work!

[@crimsun7186]

5 valve trumpets do exist, but not on this configuration. David Hickman has a custom 5 valve Trumpet with 1 rotor and 1 piston. The trumpet is in C. Pressing the 4th valve lowers the pitch by a half step. Pressing the trigger puts the trumpet in D. When you have both down (and they can lock in place as well), you have a Trumpet in Db.

[@bryanray1235]

I am well aware of the 5 valve trumpet. I feel like that it is pretty cool having the many keys so extreme register notes can be grasped better.

[@TrentHamilton]

FIRST!

[@samuelyang6463]

Trent Hamilton of course you beat me

[@dwarflord6274]

Trent Hamilton boi 👏

[@nicholastrombone9899]

True you made the video

[@nicholastrombone9899]

Also nice choice of music Gabriel's Oboe is a great piece of music

[@thepixelgeek7005]

Trent Hamilton making a six valve trumpet... I wish I could do stuff like that.

[@joshandrews8913]

Very interesting concept here, and as you mentioned I'm sure it's a good stepping stone to doing more of this sort of thing in the future, which I am eager to see. This was a good relatively safe way to test things out. A lot safer than using a couple Bach Strads for a first project hahaha.

[@rogermwilcox]

Sorry I missed the opportunity to make a suggestion last week. I would've suggested the 5th and 6th valves do something to compensate for the fact that, when the 4th valve is depressed, all the other valves are out of tune -- a problem that the piccolo trumpet and most other non-compensating 4-valve brass instruments have.

[@MrInitialMan]

If it must be rubbish, let it at least be interesting rubbish, no?

[@Composer_Piggy]

MrInitialMan yes

[@rayzhang5551]

I like how you played "Gabriel's Oboe" (the first tune) on the 6-valve trumpet. It's not a woodwind quite yet haha

[@burger1113]

When you played it towards the end, I could literally hear the trumpet crying "kill meeee" lol

[@ge200099]

Yes, please continue doing this! It is just awesome to see this invention!

[@johncoffin9354]

I've seen a picture of a previous 6 valve cornet. It had 7 separate bells arranged around the player's head. The idea was to have a perfectly tuned length for each ½step addition.

[@raayney]

the video starts at 0:00

[@bearmen5140]

god's work my boy

[@manuelbonet]

- UssMines - And ends at 6:29

[@rakutzimbel4539]

5:77 ;)

[@nickdonner6330]

- UssMines - thanks chief

[@mell0_ben]

How does it feel like to be with the Bluecoats? :)

[@kgbmmt]

Keep up the inspiring and crazy work - never fails to bring a smile and a chuckle!

[@willmorris8198]

I can't wait to see a more high quality version of this.

[@dliessmgg]

If you do such a trumpet modification again, would you consider making it so it supports 19 tone equal temperament? It's a pretty neat tuning system that is an easy expansion from the standard 12 tones.

[@nathanieloxford6288]

I have a six valve tuba with the fifth valve being a quarter step. I bought it from a guy who pieced it together in his backyard. Other than me, nobody who ever tried it could play it. I found it to be quite a fun instrument, and I played it regularly in a bread quintet for a while. However, over the years it developed so many leaks that even I couldn't make it sound good anymore (and no tech with any dignity would want to work on it lol). It's currently being 'played' by a skeleton that's suspended from my band room ceiling by fishing line. Anyway, based on my experience with under-quality instruments, my recommendation for valve lube for your trumpet is Brasso brass polish. Just put a couple covid masks under the piston vents to keep it from dripping on you 👍

[@d.schoepflin2247]

(Trent Hamilton) I think you should reclassify the old 6-valve trumpet as a percussion instrument and don't even put your breath in it! It kinda sounds like playing on the rim of a snare drum. The newer complete version looks and sounds great and can still be called a brass instrument! Thanks for sharing your instrumental creations with us! Dan!

[@noahmeserve9165]

The 6th valve should've been a valve where when you press it down it changes to the key of A

[@jorandax9059]

So another 2cd valve?

[@quincylaflin6465]

make a 10 valve trumpet dual bell trumpet

[@chippotter8139]

I RECENTLY HAD 2 VERTEBRAE BORED OUT AND BONE FRAGMENTS REMOVED AND YOUR TRUMPET WAS NICER THEN THEN i FEEL M8. KEEP IT UP :-) . i LOVE WATCHING YOUR STUFF BEEN A FAN FROM THE START.

[@angelmonge551]

An interesting thing you could've done with that was have the other 2 valves change the key of the trumpets pitch like a bass trombone. You could have it set to D, Gb, F or even E. That would be kind of interesting to see but they would need to work like triggers rather than valves but since the valves do stick that could also help.

[@decker5758]

2021: 24 valve trumpet

[@pathos_music]

Hello.

[@Galandork]

that is so badass that you have the capability of doing that

[@tiggerkluessendorf]

Can I buy one from you?

[@mattildahubbardo]

Cool trumpet!

[@mrbobpineapple4068]

If you have welding materials or really really good solder, you should get another trumpet and a trombone and make a jazzophone. They're really expensive, so it would probably be better to just make one. They're pretty neat-o.

[@drzoidberg71]

I come back to watch this video from time to time, and I always come up with an idea or two for what could have been done with the valves for an ideal setup. First of all, your normal valves should have been the "back three," or the first three that the leadpipe goes into. You use those valves with your right hand as usual. The "first" valve on the other block could be a muted bell with a euphonium style flange to hold the valve down, for continuous muted play. The second valve could be your microtonal valve, which by the way is probably the most interesting part of this concoction to begin with. Western instruments really aren't built with such a thing. As for the sixth valve, that would be your 1+3 combination, for extended range and alternate fingerings. For bonus points, you could manufacture new pistons and make a compensating trumpet using that fourth valve and really make a jack of all trades instrument. Out of all your zany instrument experiments, this one shows the most promise for an actual usable instrument, because I've really yet to see a commercial trumpet with any of the features you created for it, or that I added as well. I'm also glad you found a use for the world's second worst valved soprano instrument.

[@bariphonium4]

I love the gabriels oboe in the beginning 😍

[@timothystewart1818]

Can I buy it? The shipping would probably cost more than the instrument though.

[@gamingwithbeefy7565]

Can you please send me the link for the song a the end of every video

[@deadshot5040]

Hi, Trent. I was just wondering where did you get your opening and closing "themes". I really like both of them (more of the last one). I like your videos by the way.

[@williamroberts5716]

Looks like a steampunk espresso machine. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing. It's a glorious monstrosity.

[@Danny-lm9xk]

Trent, I'm aware that soprano and piccolo trombones have no seventh or sometimes even sixth position. Do you think you could add a trigger made from a trumpet rotary valve to a sop or pic bone? Or maybe a double slide!? Thanks

[@TrentHamilton]

Yes, it's possible. Although you'd have to redesign the piccolo trombone as I don't think there's enough room to practically add a rotary valve.

[@ephraimpinckney8209]

This could be the start of a new instrument that will be playable and accepted in the future

[@skrame01]

Very good sir. How about electrically actuated valves?

[@rrjann]

Trent, maybe you could do a program explaining why European brass are manufactured to a different pitch, or at least in the past they were, and you have to be careful when buying a used horn not to get one that is pitched higher than 440 A. I bought a horn not knowing better and lengthened the tuning slide, which helped, but the horn never sounded good after that.

[@Capricegirl_]

Can you make a 6 valve euphonium?

[@alexanderguzman9275]

Hey Trent, Where does your intro and outro music come from?

[@nathanielwilliford2589]

Trent, should I invest in a Monette trumpet?

[@eddielarralde559]

Just in case anyone asks what that tune is called he played during the begging of the video, it's called Gabriel's Oboe

[@funkehdoot]

it sounds really good

[@matkandu]

Actually, the first 6-valve trumpet was made by Adolph Sax in the mid-1800's. Perhaps a precursor to the modern saxophone than a trumpet.

[@bamaslamma1003]

What's the lowest note it can play with all six valves pushed down?

[@pauls5745]

stronger springs and polishing the valve pistons could help with sticky valves for little or no money put into the horn. yes! we would enjoy seeing it on The Wall

[@danbytp]

Let me have a few pints before I listen to this again.Come to think of it,where'd I put that whiskey bottle of mine?

[@carterw70]

Very nice!

[@ForestHillsDr]

What was the piece you played at the beginning with the trumpet?

[@aidanchristensen1581]

you could make the 6th valve a flat tone for use with the 4th valve to make it in tune

[@themadjem]

That's actually pretty cool

[@CrimsonSax]

Was "Gabriel's Oboe" the song that you played in the intro?

[@noavincecastillo4683]

CrimsonSax PH yes!

[@LukaCordedda]

Are these going to be mass produced? ;)

[@vobitouchiha7630]

what the freak what the song called or your ending of the video

[@mr.klunee4103]

Just out of curiosity, what time is it where you are (Welington, New Zealand if I'm correct) ?

[@SpartacusLegends117]

Isn't there some strange way to make the sound come out of two or more bells at the same time without a valve to switch between them

[@perfold2137]

That actually looks pretty cool

[@steakhousejohn5990]

Have u tried lapping the valves

[@nathanielwilliford2589]

What do u think of them

[@connnnnnnor2096]

Its 1 in the morning where i am but i dont care.

[@Pearagon10]

Same lol

[@Danny45635]

Connor's Moto World me too lol

[@nicholastrombone9899]

He hates Americans confirmed

[@ezthelegendary8441]

Connor's Moto World it's confirmed he hates east coast Americans. I'm on west coast so get rekt

[@moistsentientbagel5116]

Me too

[@chrismichaelyoung]

Here's an idea -- put a slide after the valves on something and operate it with the off hand

[@gerbenbuijze]

What if you press the 3rd and the 6th valve?

[@bradleyziegelmaier]

I love the intro

[@pantopia3518]

what was the first song called

[@bzbub6668]

cant choose name I believe it was Gabrielle's oboe.

[@bzbub6668]

cant choose name Gabriel's*

[@pantopia3518]

Dylan Thoma thanks

[@yannnique17]

What's the first piece's name?

[@nasyithrahman9594]

But does it djent?

[@kindaclueless7966]

whats that song you played

[@blockaechilds1240]

Two years late but... CAROLINA CORWN’S 2019 PROGRAM, BENEATH THE SURFACE

[@legobananaman95yt30]

Ye idk why I’m rewatching and that sounded familiar then I read ur comment and remembered it’s Gabriel’s oboe I think XC

[@brainaxy5148]

Hey Trent, any tips for an aspiring young trumpet player? (besides practice, if I had a dollar for every time someone told me that I'd be able to afford a Stradivarius) thanks!

[@maagic2031]

Brainaxy Practice jumping between harmonics, practice articulation, and don't forget to have fun

[@dovahkiin2175]

Long tones, slurs/flexibility exercises. Don't be afraid to play, notes can smell fear. Make sure you use enough air for a full, broad sound.

[@brainaxy5148]

The King Thank you, and yes, sometimes playing can feel like a chore, so it's refreshing to hear someone say that

[@stephenowens5091]

try changing out the springs in the valves

[@lancelotjoseph]

whow amazing..can i c u in the US..where

[@veiledzorba]

No 6th valve demo?

[@benjaminmcclatchey9814]

That’s awesome!

[@alphabeets]

I wonder what the melt value is for the brass. 😂

[@jasonzurlo1543]

what is your introduction music entitled?

[@tubruh7256]

Maybe a double slide trombone? Idk man. Keep up the good work!

[@jorandax9059]

For the Americans out here, that's about 1/6 of a watermelon worth of valve oil.

[@indieWellie]

why not a rotary slide trombone next?

[@immortalmecha8770]

Well im getting a new trombone in February, you can have my old one! King 606, no trigger, works well and has a few dents and dings. Bell is slightly bent.

[@TrentHamilton]

Sure. Send it to me and I'll happily review it.

[@chiwea123]

Maybe you could try putting a nice dent in the fifth valve?

[@VoodooDewey69]

I think you missed your calling I think you should be a secret agent like James Bond .Building Bollywood trick trumpets that shoot bullets.

[@armannazerian3669]

why do you do your vibrato at such a slow frequency?

[@TrentHamilton]

Personal preference

[@toznerd6369]

If that ain't for playin' acid jazz, then nuthin' is!!!!

[@kj4ilk]

trent make a trombone with the valves of a trumpet then two slides then two triggers F & Db that would be a cool trumpbone

[@samsignorelli]

Interesting experiment....but my eyes are drawn to the soprano bugle and mellophonium behind you!

[@paulkolodner2445]

I think you should have the bell point to the left.

[@Gretchen1978]

great hack, Trent :)

[@brendanlee5018]

For the 5th and 6th valves, one could be a quater tone up, and the other could be a quarter tone down

[@SamuelPlaysBrass]

I know you left this comment ages ago, but going “up” any desired amount is damn near impossible with piston valves as far as I can tell. If he had some way to mount a rotary on then perhaps it would be an option

[@awildjared1396]

nice job playing legend of the castle aramagh

[@emorigami7108]

What about a trombone with two slides?

[@nathanielwilliford2589]

You should have made the fifth valve like the second trigger on a trombone putting it into Gb and made the 6th valve what the fifth valve does now

[@kj4ilk]

Nate Da Trombonist to do that youd need to engage the F attachment valve first

[@nathanielwilliford2589]

kjilk simble not if you could find a way to make it like an independent system

[@bacproductions1718]

What about a 7 valve trumpet?

[@seansutherland6270]

what if the 6th valve made it a piccolo trumpet with no valves

[@zacharycoronado6749]

The sixth valve would be a very easy quarter tone modification.