"It's Improbable He Will Face Trial" Chris Daw On The Russell Brand Allegations

[@freddieqmercury5961]

They are talking about Brand grooming a 16 year old girl, but the same media says nothing about the grooming gangs in England.

[@williamrae9954]

Same people are giving Schofield a pass with a 10yr old boy, or Edwards roaming the corridors of Dulwich Boys College, Savilesque style...the hypocrisy!

[@jokerdog3332]

We dont talk about asian grooming gangs because people that do are cancelled as racist

[@And-rc9yy]

TBH how's it grooming when 16 is legal. I don't agree with it, but laws law.

[@TheLucanicLord]

So how do you know about it? Oh wait, it was all over the papers & TV at the time, but thanks for playing.

[@aporue5893]

@@williamrae9954 um the guy was 21🙄

[@tomcat7661]

If only the same level of media concern was shown against the Grooming Gangs in places like Rotherham, Telford, Oxford etc. Those 1000s of young girls deserve to be heard and have the national scandal of those mainly Pakistani men brought to tougher justice.

[@chrispict42]

MSM does not want to take them down! It's friends to them perhaps.

[@ddoherty5956]

Spot on

[@nev7711]

Tommy Robinson was the only voice that was being heard. Look at how he was persecuted trying to find answers about that crime.

[@Cristinajoy-e7l]

very well said!!!!!!

[@amandabegg4930]

Because people don’t care. We are guilty of allowing our girls to be abused.

[@paulmorgancollings7833]

There doesn't need to be a criminal trial. The intended damage has been successfully completed. But hey, what do I know?

[@biancaenera2500]

That was the goal and they achieved it. Today in the medieval era you can accuse people of anything if you wear the badge of MSM. You put the guy in the public square and women can throw tomatoes and spit on him without trial.😅 How progressive!

[@NPC--666]

​@@A-wy5zmHow's he wrong, Brand has been unpersoned without a trial

[@vel230]

​@@A-wy5zmabout as much as you or I know....

[@freefall9832]

He left himself exposed. He got played like a fool.

[@lesleyhogg2495]

I think you're correct

[@vel230]

Even if he doesn't go to trial, MSM has achieved its goal to get Brand off of his platforms, shut him up, and get rid of competition ...

[@coolhand1966]

He's still on Rumble and not going anywhere.

[@MizzaStewart]

​@@alexedwards6509 Never a Truer Set of Words Spoken!!!

[@melgrant7404]

@@alexedwards6509 but of course rape can happen in consensual relationships as in marriage.

[@waynesmith4589]

That’s exactly what’s going on here, he’s not been charged with any crime whatsoever.

[@susandrydenhenderson6234]

This was not the result of people “speaking out.” It was the result of two media outlets colluding to question as many women as they could who had contact with Brand and taking forward as a story only those who agreed to claim some negative trait to their time with Russell, particularly any hint of any level of coercion or lack of full formal consent being involved.

[@docdynamix]

They are scum

[@AKVonn]

&& Ch 4 knew who to contact, as they & BBC facilitated all, any of his philandering

[@bazwillrun]

these investagative journalists are very good at putting ideas into peoples minds with their methods of questioning...they will keep suggesting certain things may have happened or been said etc and before long the person being questioned is going along with it all...auto suggestion

[@richardheaybourne1182]

Funny that the same media was responsible for bringing Epstein, Prince Andrew, Harvey Weinstein and Jimmy Saville to justice.

[@richardheaybourne1182]

@@bazwillruncorrect, they managed to convict Weinstein, Epstein and Saville et al. Just Prince Andrew who escaped justice.

[@Goober-o6p]

U know whats interesting about all this. I couldn't stand Russell Brand back then, i thought he was gross. But the very people goin after him now are the ones who loved him and egged him on, telling him how great and wonderful he was. Now he's a different person who i quite admire, the very people who used to love him are the ones going after him.

[@kevindarkstar]

Mmm that's a intresting point, and possibly says a lot about the situation here

[@melgrant7404]

Crucially it's the accusers version that counts maybe he wasn't so wonderful as they thought. Just saying.

[@Goober-o6p]

@@melgrant7404 were they all deaf and blind?

[@melgrant7404]

@@Goober-o6p ask them

[@Goober-o6p]

@melgrant7404 they wouldn't be able to hear me, though, or see the sign language

[@valiakloeppel7252]

Daily mail and this rep. - who cares if she personally likes him. She called him scum. Shes too subjective to be a reporter - fire her!

[@timcomley5948]

Oh dear you took time to write that

[@lostintranslation1957]

​@@timcomley5948oh dear, you spent time writing your smug reply. Who's more the fool?

[@derekaccount9183]

Brand is getting accused because of his standing against the system just like Assange!

[@brimkathstampex2306]

What a load of nonsense.

[@SN-bl6xm]

No, he’s accused of rape and sexual assault!

[@kevindarkstar]

​@@brimkathstampex2306why

[@freefall9832]

He left himself exposed. Women are always trouble. He played the fool.

[@kevindarkstar]

@@freefall9832 true on that level

[@milalewis983]

Piers Morgan has a nerve taking the moral high ground to defend media integrity. He must think we're stupid.

[@SarahDoris-m1h]

I know he’s a complete scrum bag way his opening line with the Osborne’s purposely to discredit brand and open with a pedo line accusing them as being a sex party of a family and they all giggled like fucking fools and there was a time cut and edit You can not believe anything you see anymore they are all fake as fuck

[@paulgibbons2320]

Oh he does.

[@89gsmith]

They pay his wages…

[@littlemonkeyone]

Absolutely he’s part of the problem. He’s the stupid one.

[@robertmcelwaine7024]

Whether he has the nerve to take the moral high ground to defend media integrity or not, in this case, he does however have a point. Perhaps you're not arguing that he doesn't have one, but never the less. The news coverage of this case has been nothing short of a hack trial by a media witchhunt.

[@royfr8136]

This is what you get if you live in a culture that welcomes the statement 'believe all women' - its as ridiculous as saying 'believe all men'

[@truth-lg7xy]

This has backfired spectacularly for MSM 😮

[@knockedoutloaded]

Agreed. The MSM has just lost another 6.5 million customers

[@melgrant7404]

@@knockedoutloaded I'm sure they will survive.

[@SenorPenor1337]

No it hasn't they will just disable comments and pay women to say things about him

[@paulb174]

Never understand why he can be named until hes been tried for the crimes

[@Harry-jz1dn]

​@@timcro1966That's an absolutely thick reply. He's clearly talking about the CH4 show releasing his name. The show that Brand was TOLD was going to be aired. Him getting his statement out beforehand is irrelevant. The fact you found yourself being witty there FFS 🫣

[@klansimpson]

because there is no balance. He hasn't even been charged with anything, just someone complaining to the press about something that is or isn't truth providing a specific narrative (or been spun) to look a certain way. It's not journalism its an ASSASSINATION attempt (so far its working as planned too as he has been officially CANCELLED publically

[@nansmith8703]

Yes - he can be named but his accusers may not be named. WTAF?

[@edmunddengler7687]

The women should have gone to the police FIRST, and if then they were denied due process, go the the press SECOND, and the story would be about police and the legal system. By going to the press FIRST, there is no due process, no defense, complete spin. The saying in the US that "a DA can indict a ham sandwich" applies here. Morgan's "editor's hat" is more about a story that sells than a story that tells a balanced view.

[@kathleenmcdonald6641]

I agree. Not that familiar with him but he must have really pissed off some powerful people. Just watched a show he has on. He is a no-talent sleazy half-ass comic. He is toast.

[@SN-bl6xm]

The first police reports were filed in 2003. These victims went to the police FIRST and now it’s out and all over the media.

[@williamsmit619]

I am not actually sure these women went to the press... it is possible they are soon to be "double victims" here ...I think is more a case that the "press" sought them out, and built a story around their account which the Documentary Producers shaped into a compelling narrative ( with emotive background Music) and using actresses ( which they openly disclosed on the Documentary) they presented a performance designed to make an impact ... the best Russell can do is have a day in court... painful .. trial by media

[@freespeechmatters583]

@@williamsmit619Then how did their private text messages end up on TV?

[@vinlondon8904]

​@@freespeechmatters583you can construct any narrative through some text messages. We dont know the context of those messages. Are they related to the abuse? We will never know. I can just shout at my partner a day before and I send a text saying " I'm sorry the way I behaved last night. That isn't me. Will you ever forgive me?" You see! Anything can be build without proper context.

[@hamsahealinghands5423]

What happened to innocent until proven guilty. That is the law

[@michaelkrzak5414]

​@@JimCarnernonsense. It's a witch hunt and those ladies who are accusing him are already called by some mainstream media "victims " . They are not the victims of anything until he is found guilty. Nobody proved anything yet and Russel already lost his source of income- because everyone are jumping onto bandwagon. That is not the justice

[@docdynamix]

​@@JimCarnerhypocrite

[@robtheplod]

Never let facts get in the way of good stories!

[@sunshine-qk8qe]

Facts , Shaun Attwood channel had a guest on yesterday.,who proved without a shadow of a doubt, that the texts the Channel 4 showed were all doctored .

[@biancaenera2500]

Seriously 🤦‍♀️

[@Felled-angel]

​@@biancaenera2500he's quoting Mark Twain, in other words the media don't care if he is Innocent they just want the story...i agree with him.

[@MizzaStewart]

Mark Twain....

[@shanxy2199]

And what are these facts ?

[@ak7306]

I think this is absolutely disgusting. The media is finding him guilty with out evidence only a one sided tv show.

[@jimbo5973]

The media AND the left wing ideologues (many would argue they are one and the same in this day and age!), as he has strayed out of unquestioning loyalty and conformity with their diktats. We all know how viciously and quickly they attack perceived threats and potential enemies.

[@joparkcat]

Where is the evidence for all the rapist's conspiracy theories? 😂🤣

[@jimbo5973]

@@joparkcat Who programmed you with those buzzwords NPC? In this day and age you have to be willfully ignorant or retarded to not be well aware that all is not as it is proclaimed to be in the mainstream media. You have the internet, there is no excuse to genuinely remain so unaware.

[@simzism]

This has been the case forever. I worked with a miscarriage of justice charity called Innocent. The experiences I learned of while there, would make your hair curl.

[@JayJay-ki4mi]

Are you saying police are not investigating? Are you saying BBC, C4 et. al. have not spoken to their lawyers and police? A grown man romancing a girl still in year 11 is disgusting. That happened. He deserves to be shamed in public. When he's convicted - because he will be - ya'll still be saying he's innocent. How many of you convicted Saville and Weinstein? One of those hasn't been found guilty. Fair play to C4 for exposing it and it making it public knowledge. He's a scumbag.

[@DCPorter71]

I know its a wacky idea... but innocent until proven guilty... was a pretty sound and reasonable position to take.. back in the day before the world went nuts

[@klansimpson]

never has been with this sort of accusation, it's just now more out in the open than it was before, at least in the UK (now with social media it's globally bad)

[@stacydetwiler1475]

It is unfair if the accusations are proven false but he's not exactly Donny Osmond is he??

[@klansimpson]

Hasn't actually been there for DECADES, not for these sort of accusations. It's just more KNOWN now.

[@sadoldgit313]

Unless somebody can bring evidence that he’s broken the law then there can be no trial! So bring on the evidence, not some regretful sixteen year old who is on a promise of a big payday!

[@run2cat4run]

A load of women are coming forward now and why would they lie

[@johnyare8576]

Give it time.

[@AnnetjiePocock]

Give her name and trace her history after Russel left her. 😮What was she up to. 🙄🤔💰Money money look at age of Michael Douglas etc... Check the age differences it is all over the news papers.. 😯

[@fuku35]

Money

[@cjhepburn7406]

Not picking sides but wouldn’t the papers risk a massive defamation case if this all goes, how would one say…Pete Tong?

[@DanVassiliou]

Then he is innocent...till a court and evidence prove otherwise. Not some media cook up

[@run2cat4run]

What cook up the media did a investigation into the claims and now channels who had him on will also do investigation

[@freefall9832]

He might be, but it won't matter. He played the fool and should have known better. Women never forget or forgive.

[@ivapetrovska9986]

@@freefall9832 I think You are confusing unethical - with criminal, and accusation - with a fact. Moreover, He in 2018 has already by himself acknowledged all his character flaws (that was controling and emotionally abusive with his partners) , has shown awareness and remorse as no one else, and has changed. And honestly, he was not that misogynistic than in 2000 -2013, as a lot of men are know - after 2020 in this morally revised society. If he has in fact s. assaulted women, then he should be criminally responsible.

[@freefall9832]

@ivapetrovska9986 I know enough about him, and he doesn't measure up. I have seen drunken alcoholic heiroin addicts before, and I don't fall for their act.

[@ivapetrovska9986]

@@freefall9832 OK. 7 years clean is hardly an act, but protect Yourself as You feel fit! Don't hate the person, hate the addiction ! Addiction is is a systemic problem and occurs as result of generational family trauma ! To win a fight with such addiction - nothing harder, and rarely who succeeds !

[@marilynpastor6401]

Any woman who went with him knew his jokes and his persona. Come on - Why wait 10 years or more. Many many women have had horrible inappropriate experiences. This is a money thing.

[@melgrant7404]

So are you saying that rape can't happen in consensual relationships like in marriage.

[@rosieposie6521]

Totally agree it is about the money.

[@sjim8384]

Surely Ch4, bbc, and programme-makers need to be held to account for those shows that encouraged morally questionable behaviour and most of those shows were on Ch4. Get vulnerable people into a confined space and encouraged to take part in lewd behaviour.

[@annfrancis6287]

Yes , the entertainment industry loved him and encouraged and set up overly flirtatious promiscuous behaviour. They went as far as having a shagger of the year award!!!! Not sure who orcwhat the problem is here . Russell, as do we all , has grown up and moved on . Crazy days .

[@sjim8384]

@@annfrancis6287 Ch4 are still making shows where they cast vulnerable people together ie married at First Sight and a Naked Dating Show, and Swingers Dating Show etc It's all poor quality stuff but someones watching it.

[@GATSU1979]

So because a man has lots of sex it makes him a scumbag?....who the fuck is she to judge....obviously doesn't get it on a regularly with that face

[@mac4994]

Good point

[@freespeechmatters583]

@@sjim8384Mainstream media is on the ropes. They’ll do anything for clicks and views. Piers is just the same.

[@cynthiamartini8982]

Said it yourselves… If Brand was still on the Left this wouldn’t be happening!

[@SN-bl6xm]

Brand is a liberal leftist. He’s doing the right wing conspiracy theory thing just to make money. So many people do the right wing conspiracy theory thing to make money off of it. In private they are liberal and leftists.

[@freefall9832]

He's a sloppy drunk. He should have protected himself because women are always trouble.

[@joparkcat]

right wingers all of a sudden adore brand because they found out he is a rapist. 😂

[@johns2262]

@@freefall9832 I'm fairly sure he has been sober and drug free for 20+ years. Everything he is accused of happened after he stopped drinking and taking drugs.

[@brettharter143]

Exactly when he was screaming vote labour on the Trews channel he was left alone

[@reideoh]

This man RB has transformed himself from a deeply disturbed drugaddict to a spokesperson of what is going on in the world ! He has had a great channel with important issues - unlike anyone else around ! No wonder he has many followers ! He has transformed himself to a familyman and father which is an amazing story in itself ! Why do these women wait 10+ years to take him down ? That sounds like conspiracy - I totally feel mainstream media is not telling us the public the hole story of what is going on with a lot of topics , and RB did research and then presented it in his way ! It is obvious the mainstream media is against him ! I see it in my country all the time - you cannot really speak your truth about politics, integration,culture or the criminal gangs taking over my country or you will be persecuted. And about the 16 year old girl : where was her mother ? a mature 16 year old can get away with looking 18 ! I say : lets stop the moral here : stop all porn movies on TV stream , channels etc. Stop the imorality the media feeds our children all the time ! So lets not morale about RB - who has apparently transformed himself, and lets morale about our western society that is promoting sex/drugs/rocknroll to an even younger audience !

[@Worldsgonebonkers]

My thoughts exactly! You hit the nail on the head.

[@TrollAlert-xv6qg]

I blame you

[@ShayBugler-xq8sg]

At 16, a girl is very impressionable, especially with a powerful 30 year old man. Whilst she was of consenting she, she felt groomed and coerced into doing sexual acts that she didn’t want to.

[@coolhand1966]

@@ShayBugler-xq8sg rubbish.

[@lorree1]

Where was her mother? Dropping her off at Brands house. Now says she wasn't happy but the girl was 16 so she couldn't do anything. Utter nonsense. She could have raised hell and Brand would have given the girl the swerve to avoid the attention. I'd never forgive my mother, never mind Brand.

[@karensloan9661]

Cancel culture strikes again. So sick of the label conspiracy theorists. I look forward to when RB is proved innocent.

[@brimkathstampex2306]

Pigs might fly...

[@kevindarkstar]

​@@brimkathstampex2306why

[@SN-bl6xm]

But what if he is GUILTY? Why should 5 women lie abut him raping and sexually abusing them?

[@kevindarkstar]

@@SN-bl6xm IF..... And money talks 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@karensloan9661]

@@SN-bl6xm it's the easiest thing to lie about, come on, wake up. What annoys me is how the msm have already tried him without him even being charged with anything. This is all media build up at this stage. I like to believe in innocent until found guilty. Call me old fashioned

[@flynn0012]

Let's not say anything about the groupies who stalk rich and famous and are sexual predators.

[@malawisupasoldier7478]

He should definitely get this to trial to prove his innocence and sue the liars

[@johns2262]

It is unlikely to happen in the UK unless the journalists have completely fabricated things and/or ignored serious red flags for witness credibility. Libel and slander is very very hard to prove in the UK as the standard is that the journalists had reasonable belief that they were being told the truth.

[@melgrant7404]

@@johns2262 agree. Otherwise the press and media would be open to libel themselves.

[@klansimpson]

its VERY VERY hard to prove libel & slander in the UK, the requirement against the press in the UK is MUCH MUCH higher... It won't be worth his time, let alone money.

[@JCX-9]

So it seems you’re already biased without having any proof of innocence. Interesting.

[@johns2262]

@@JCX-9 Proof if innocence is an odd way to phrase things. The standard is proof of guilt. Personally I have no idea if he did what he is accused of.

[@andersdottir1111]

Russell has gained another 20,000 viewers just in 2 days- what about you Daily Mail? Sunday Times? Channel 4? 😂😂

[@melgrant7404]

But he has lost things too.his reputation being one.

[@andersdottir1111]

@@melgrant7404 he always had a wild reputation. People have short memories- all this coming out now was in his own book from years ago. You are being played by the media.

[@chrispict42]

😅😅😅😅

[@melgrant7404]

@@andersdottir1111 unfortunately for Russell his wild life was used against him.

[@johnristheanswer]

​@melgrant7404 He already had a ' bad reputation '. Not much to lose there.

[@diannehernandez1450]

Not a Russell Brand fan but that woman was 100% wrong in calling him a scum bag. Wow.

[@klansimpson]

She is entitled to her opinion, she likely thinks his promiscuousness is disgusting as many do.

[@diannehernandez1450]

@@klansimpson There are more sophisticated words to use.

[@klansimpson]

@@diannehernandez1450totally agree with you, but you know what they say about opinions and people's posterior, she's definitely EMBRACING that.

[@Barry-tl3ru]

He's just playing the rocks target game.

[@angies7906]

@@klansimpson none of your or that lady business. Does his behavior have any impact on your personally? Are you perfect. What is up with you people.

[@andrereloaded1425]

Had Russell still been doing trashy TV, he'd be quite safe.

[@melgrant7404]

Actually it's the trashy stuff that may have contributed to these type of allegations.

[@paulfrancis9129]

Who keeps text msgs from 10yrs ago 🤔

[@paulfrancis9129]

@gotcha3382 the text hasn't been retrieved from a phone company tho....

[@startracker5895]

@@paulfrancis9129how do you know?

[@janeslater8004]

The umbrella guy says its fake

[@Beauloqs]

....you don't have that much experience with women do you.

[@melgrant7404]

@@janeslater8004 apparently there was a bit that's said the text was only a graphic not the original. So it's not fake.

[@amandaslade9072]

Part of our laws clearly state a right to a fair trial, media and social media risk making that impossible, if that happens, it won't go to court.

[@velkolpacki4611]

He is truth teller and that will get him in trouble. Censorship at its finest.

[@marilynpastor6401]

This is all about Brand telling the truth about many many things happening in the world today.

[@marioskublan7273]

I thought we learned the lessons from the Salem Witch Hunt. Clearly we didn't.

[@watchthepoint1604]

If he’s guilty then he needs to face justice but no one has spoken about the lack of parenting to allow their 16 year old daughter be picked up in a taxi and go off to him. No one has asked the question whether he knew if she was 16 at the time as some women can look older and lie about their age. Back in the day how many women used to go to bars and clubs when they were too young to do so and clearly not old enough but had fake ID and make up to look older. I’m not saying it’s right but it did happen and still does. Where you have famous people, especially men you will also have an entourage of women desperate to meet them. We need to stop all the conjecture around this and let it play out without media interference

[@fizzzzerrrr]

Yes yes absolutely….it’s the 16 year olds fault and the fault of her parents. Poor Russell was just tricked! He’s a man after all, his need for sex with a child is part of his masculinity. Leave him alone!!!

[@JoaoDuarte-ru2ue]

@@fizzzzerrrr What... Its not ilegal in the UK to have sex with a 16 years old girl... The way you are talking is like he's a pedophile... She is playing the "oh I was too young to make decisions" card.... That doesn't make Russell a rapist nor a pedophile. Out of thousands of women he slept with they managed to find 4 that agreed to take part in this investigation. And yes those media outlets were actively seeking out ex-partners of his to take part in this investigation... This by itself should be enough to think this is all BS.

[@watchthepoint1604]

@@fizzzzerrrr, no not exactly, that's not what I'm saying. It's not right if he knows she was 16 at the time, that is completely wrong. What I am saying is more questions need to be asked before making judgement one way or another.

[@Worldsgonebonkers]

​@@fizzzzerrrrOur Queen Elizabeth was courting with Prince Phillip from the age of 14, he was years older. But no one says anything about that.

[@ShayBugler-xq8sg]

What 16 year old girl is going to listen to her parents if they tell her to stop seeing somebody, especially seeing a famous man. Teenagers will do the opposite.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

The lawyer was right in what he said, it's funny when Morgan is going on about reporting the facts, when he printed fake pictures of the British army and was in charge during the phone hacking.

[@carolokbrblol]

That's what I'm saying. Will they come for Mr Morgan in the future?

[@francishughes542]

Jeez, You Morgan haters ALWAYS say that, because its the only thing that you have got to go on, you need to get away from the past, & STOP livingin it.

[@acelectricalsecurity]

@@francishughes542 well he's preaching morality, when he's just a hypocrite, that's what I can't do with, the only one that summed it up was the lawyer

[@krshoreham7634]

@@francishughes542it’s a legitimate argument so suck it up…..oh and you’ve automatically jumped to categorise anyone who mentions it as a ‘hater’ …Morgan isn’t untouchable….I’ll listen to him and praise/criticise

[@francishughes542]

Easily triggered.@@krshoreham7634

[@marcusroberts7624]

These women are not looking for justice, they have been handsomely compensated for their time, intention?, destroying Russell Brand.

[@olddouchebag]

🤣

[@waynesmith4589]

The matrix has done its job, they’ve taken him down regardless of his innocence or guilt.

[@JCX-9]

There usually is enough evidence before someone gets charged. He stepped back from his businesses that’s not an act if an innocent man. He is a predator and there is enough actual footage of him acting out of line with females now imagine how he is in private where there are no cameras.

[@waynesmith4589]

@@JCX-9 Go to the Police then ! not the media, they're as corrupt as the dodgy characters they investigate, its all about money.

[@waynesmith4589]

The media talking about moral standards 😮 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@nicolajohnston9535]

They need him gone as he speaks TRUTH. Im with Russell

[@run2cat4run]

So forget that he may have rape women

[@Sir.T]

Facts. Piers says he's all conspiracy and nonsense.. Russell actually does deep research on things he covered. For example the whole covid scandal. Exposing big phama and the rest. To think the top people (elite) aren't running some deep state system is just utterly delusional.

[@fuku35]

Why didn't they not go police just told there bollocks to a newspaper

[@fizzzzerrrr]

Hahahahaa THEY! Is that the shadowy cabal of men in big chairs who are ruling the world??

[@toastedterps]

Everyone may have by that logic, or you're just being biased.@@run2cat4run

[@dianasimms1810]

I’m sorry this is happening to him. I’m sorry if it’s true and sorry if it’s not. I always loved the guy.

[@actgunner3082]

If he is guilty then by all means punish him but if he’s not these news agencies must be sued with no mercy

[@leslierowe8476]

LETS GET REAL THEY ARE OUT AFTER HIM BECAUSE HE SAYS THINGS THEY DON'T LIKE SIMPLE AS THAT

[@lorree1]

True, but unfortunately his past behaviour has given them the ammunition.

[@melgrant7404]

@@lorree1 my thoughts too.

[@hammervproductions]

The fact that Piers finds the idea of Brand's KZbin topics a ridiculous notion as to why these allegations are being laid all at once, shows how far behind he is, and he'll never catch up. This IS the very reason all this is happening. Piers, you missed the boat on COVID, Ukraine and now Brand.

[@johns2262]

His KZbin topics are mixed. Some of them are reasonable, some of them are pulled from thin air. The fires in Maui one being a conspiracy, for example. That's different from pointing out that big pharma had a vested interest in making sure as many people as possible received a covid vaccine.

[@joyduncan9434]

Piers Morgan is weary of being cancelled by those in power so he does not stray too far or at all from the MSM narrative about Covid and Ukraine.

[@jomccarthy6649]

I will never watch any main stream television. It is disgusting what they have done to Russell.

[@jeanhenly710]

They all covered for his bad behaviour because he was making them money Now he's not towing the line he's toast😊

[@Rose-gp3tm]

I am deeply moved by Chris Daw KC. He really impressed me. He speaks for many women who were raped but couldn't go to police... Many women are worried about their jobs, income and personal life if they go to the police, not to mention the emotional pain they have to go through the process.... Honestly, I am amazed by this gentleman's dignity and integrity. He is 100% correct about we should talk more and focus on this matter rather than Russell Brand. Thanks for having Chris Daw KC. Please invite him more often.

[@krshoreham7634]

Nailed it

[@bmac7634]

If they go to the police it will be a confidential investigation, and no one should find out until charges are laid. We all know the way it has been done is for £. Both for the media outlets and the accusers (not victims)

[@testingtesting1785]

He spoke sense and tried to bring the real issues to the table. The media can scream about the me too movement all they want. Truth is that it was a movement for the celeb world. Name one average person the me too movement actually helped or convicted

[@williamsmit619]

true ... but sadly they are not really interested in that story .. awful

[@chrispict42]

@roseqptmNo. These legalists are evil. Did research. Found the court staff are responsible for failed rape cases Courts very bad. They excluded me often & even prevented me knowing which were the rape cases initially stymieng my research. But I saw enough.

[@Kliss2765]

Sarah Vine is spot on with her assessment, and I totaly agree with her , Brand is unplesant narcassistic and clearly a lethario of epic proportions. However until he goes to trial and he is or is not found guilty by a jury of his peers we need to follow the innocent until proven guilty rules we have in this country, and you can't just say he IS guilty and without legal due process, you can't just say right well rapists never get convicted more than 5% of the time so we will just find him guilty. As for the 16 year old WHERE ARE HER PARENTS, I would NOT take my 16 year old to a man like Brands house in the first place regardless of the 16 year olds demands , I am sorry thats irrisponsible parenting.

[@run2cat4run]

BBC did a interview with the woman who was 16 at the time told BBC that her parents tried to stop her but she still need to go to school and be with friends but she would often lie because she was groom to lie

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

I always thought his high functioning behaviour and "obsessiveness" was due to him being on the spectrum, Asperger's.

[@freefall9832]

He's always seemed drunk to me. The guy is a long term alcoholic. You can see it in his face and behavior. My dad was a alcoholic so I definitely recognize the signs.

[@coolhand1966]

@@freefall9832 wrong. he was a drug addict and he is now completely clean, has been for a long time.

[@freefall9832]

@coolhand1966 I'm not buying it. Every time I see him, he's yelling. He slurs his words and looks like he just took a shot.

[@leemackie8434]

Now he lost his livelihood the woman should be named. The first place for women to go is the police not the media so these women should be named. Trial by media has to stop 🛑 BBC should be charged and cancelled for their involvement. My sister married someone 17 years older than her and have been very happy. They met when she was very young.

[@deadwingjockey7642]

The simple thing to do would be put a law in place where the media couldn't publish any articles or opinion pieces about crimes like rape, until the accused has been found quilty and has also ran out of appeals. Do that would allow any innocent people who have been falsely accused to avoid having their entire lives ruined, as once you've been publicly accused of a horrific crime like rape, you'll forever be quilty in a lot of people's minds. Also having court cases be the accused trying to prove that the accuser has made a flase claim (if they have done so) would go a long way in taking such allegations seriously, especially if being found guilty of commiting a fake rape claim carried an automatic prison sentence.

[@shanny4306]

🇨🇦 Doesn’t very accused person have the right to face their accuser? If the accusers are anonymous now ,do they have to come forward in the courthouse ? If groups of Brand haters jump on board ,how many anonymous nuts could accuse him ? The law has to be given a chance to investigate properly without pressure from the media , especially if he’s guilty .

[@Messicapo1]

If he dont end up getting charged he needs to sue the hell out of all these media outlets for damages and everyone else involved

[@tizzas1232]

If the accuser has text messages and crisis centre records as proof, then surely that would be enough to go to the police and potentially a trial?

[@JusticeIsNow]

i'm very pleased Piers is talking about the real issue here about the court system etc. Thank you Piers

[@Andrew-el8xi]

His career could be over because of gossip,,,! He's been thrown under the bus ! Why come out now with these claims? Because He's put a few big wigs noses out of joint that's why ! That's just my opinion by the way ! So don't get offended!

[@timcomley5948]

What boring rubbish you think he’s that influential

[@Justjay1777]

Nice of her to come straight out calling him a scum bag coz he had a addiction problem wtf is going on in Britain

[@marcusroberts7624]

Dont say this is not happening as a result of a stich up, it stinks, and every media company, including Piers is saying that trial by public opinion is wrong, while simultaneously hanging, drawing and quartering the man.

[@henriettahope2209]

damaging allegations are not facts of guilt and can not be aired over mass media and ruin a man and his family's life right now. Channel 4 ought to be sued!!

[@babycharliebrown]

Although he’s a sleaze he needs a fair trial. But I suspect his past behaviour has been his downfall.

[@Worldsgonebonkers]

Plenty of everyday men around,who will sleep with absolutely anyone if its handed to them on a plate so to speak! But they aren't famous so no one knows, I call men like that dogs! I was married to one.

[@kevindarkstar]

Without doubt, however doesn't everyone deserve a second chance to turn their life around?

[@melgrant7404]

@@kevindarkstar he was given a chance to go on TV on the first place.

[@chelseakev]

He's already been put on trial ffs and found guilty by all those that have abandoned him...

[@markhutton6055]

16 year old girl was allegedly, driven to his house by her mum.

[@acanadianfarmgirl2667]

...and did so far r three months!

[@lindaharris6361]

Piers, I always count on you to be unbiased and honest. Don’t let the mob rule

[@vonkobor]

He is one of the most unscrupulous journalists

[@lostintranslation1957]

You must have eyes full of extremely to make such a fallacy of a statement.

[@melgrant7404]

But is piers part of the mob.

[@steveleeds5221]

I would personally advise people to edge on the side of caution when immediately believing these women, and I talk from experience. My Son's Mother was making spurious claims about me to her friends and social services after our son was removed from her care, along with his siblings, (not mine) for abuse and neglect. Social services documented that my son was a rape baby, without evidence or a police investigation, which is disgusting. She has never directly accused me to my face, and refuses to give a statement to the police. After I was informed of her lies, I myself went to the police and they immediately launched an investigation, spoke to her and asked me to attend a voluntary interview, which I had no problem with. When the police spoke with her, she was shocked and asked how they knew what she'd said, she refused to give them a statement and begged them not to speak with me, but of course they already had as it was me whom went to them. Now, what she didn't know was that they already knew she was lying and that she made it up to attempt to prevent me getting custody of our son. Stupidly, she sent one of her friends a message and told them of her plans, which the police retrieved and later told me that the fundamental reason for getting me in for an interview was to actually protect me, not prosecute me as they knew I was innocent already, and I truly thank them for that, it was a brilliant bit of detective and police work. She has since been arrested for three offences, domestic harassment, perjury as she lied in family court under oath, and attempting to pervert the course of justice. I was completely innocent, I am completely innocent. She made up a rape allegation assuming it would prevent me seeing my son, but it didn't work. Social services did of course run background checks on me and assessments, which I was okay with as I knew they'd find nothing. What I didn't know until recently, it isn't the first time she's falsely accused a man of rape and or sexual assault, she's done it before but the police weren't able to tell me about it at the time, but have done since. I don't know what will happen to her in court, but I hope she's jailed, and although she's my Son's mother, I have no regard for her what so ever, not now, not after she tried to ruin my life for her own twisted and sick agenda, she deserves to languish in a prison cell to protect the public. People like her, are the reason why genuine victims cannot get justice, and it's wrong. I am not saying Russell is innocent or guilty, I don't know either way, but I refuse to immediately believe his accusers until tangible evidence is produced and he is charged and convicted by a court.

[@jeanengelking1845]

I am so concerned with the trend of guilty until proven innocent. Brand deserves due process, not to be cancelled on social media and defunded by KZbin. The media that broke this current fiction did not report fairly. Where are the thousands of women that had no complaints regarding Brand?

[@No_Mask]

Piers Morgan speaking about morals lol

[@arbeione]

In my previous job, we had a father turn up to have it out with a 34 year old guy who was dating his 16 year old daughter. The father attacked the guy and the police were called. To cut a long story short we were told it wasn’t a police matter because the daughter had consented. She outwardly said to everyone she liked the guy. I remember thinking I thought 18 was the age on consent.

[@johnristheanswer]

Didn't you have those conversations as a teenager with school friends ?

[@arbeione]

@@johnristheanswer no, none of my friends were dating much older people when I was a teenager.

[@johnristheanswer]

@arbeione But you'd be dating each other at 15, 16 , 17 and 18 wondering " when can we legally have sex ? " . You must have had a very restricted upbringing if that conversation never occurred with your friends.

[@arbeione]

@@johnristheanswer not restricted at all. I was out playing with my mates at 16 and riding my bike. I wasn’t thinking about sex at all.

[@harrish6]

"Is the media the right place for that debate" Seems to me a bit hypocritical coming from Piers Morgan who has used his position in the media to push his own biased views not so very long ago.

[@babycharliebrown]

Sarah is right. Dating a sixteen year old for sex is reprehensible and sordid, the law aside.

[@heytigers3104]

Agreed 💯

[@McBoaster]

Where were the times in Rotherham and Bradford???

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

They did a 4 year report on it, (2010-2014) but it wasn't splashed all over the media for days. I don't think there was a TV documentary about it. The way I found out about it, the Northern Reporter that carried out the investigation was featured in a YT video after the fact while doing a presentation at some kind of conference and the matter was included in it.

[@janelester6477]

Conspiracy theory is the wording those in power and their lackeys use to discredit anything outside their bubble - Kevin Maguire and his ilk are a perfect example of the lackeys

[@janereid1440]

They are still asleep.

[@johnristheanswer]

I can't stand him. How he keeps these gigs astonishes me.

[@colinmelling]

Introduce a statute of limitations on claims of rape or sexual assault. After it has expired one is not entitled to make an accusation against another.

[@melgrant7404]

But in the Saville case victims came forward after 50 yrs which couldn't have happened with what you have said.

[@colinmelling]

I am aware of that. I am equally aware of situations where accusations are made and lives and careers ruined when spurious, unfounded and false claims are levelling decades after a supposed event (never) happened. If one feels wronged, then act on it and make the accusation in a reasonable time frame. Don't wait for some unscrupulous journalist to make a call, offering an financial inducement.

[@Beauloqs]

​@@colinmelling Well said.

[@johnmarsh2078]

Chris Daw says the system is so bad women who have been raped cannot get justice. What does he suggest we put in place to cure things. In court the playing field is well tilted in favour of the complainant who can give evidence remotely without ever stepping into the courtroom, the judge stops any questions about character or previous sexual conduct. Even when the allegation is decades old the defence cannot comment on it and the judge tells the jury that it isn't relevant. How can the process be tipped in the complaiant's favour any more? No investigation, no trial. Go straight to sentence, perhaps?

[@sharonjones2400]

My issue is this... Would it not have been more prudent to do the thorough expose AFTER his trial and CONVICTION-NOT before. This isn't about caring about how these women were treated. I was with a severe and abusive narcissist for 4 years. He used me, lied, cheated hurt my family and destroyed my career. Can I go to the police for the wholesale destruction the vile b*stard caused...no, no one would care cause he isn't famous. So to suggest this about any more than persecuting a famous person is ridiculous.

[@turquoiseopalfruit]

I posted pretty much the same thoughts as you have 👍. It's shocking that any of this was aired in the first place.

[@cinnamonflower]

Why is the UK government sending out letters?

[@claudinejames7731]

20 years ago Russel was much different than he is today. Still, these allegations may be true. i'm sure he is sorry for a lot of things he did. Still, the women have not been able to speak about it. He may not remember whatever he has done because of his drug and alcohol use at the time.

[@melgrant7404]

How convenient.

[@torval10]

I found it disturbing that what being passed off as news journalism is using Actors in the video clips rather than video of the actual accusers talking. Imagine if that was allowed in the court of law? Whatever the merits of these claims, this in itself is an unacceptable for a news piece. Actors belong in docudramas and fiction, not in news.

[@jimpanso2015]

The lawyer needs his own show "in the real world"!

[@heytigers3104]

Piers forgot to mention Dan Wooton in his list of Schofield, huw and RB 😂

[@johnristheanswer]

Dan's not a ' big profile public figure '.

[@8bitbender495]

Its like Andrew Tate case all over again

[@janeslater8004]

@@tropicalfukstorm no tate is guilty and brand is set up

[@andrewtitcombe8378]

There is a clear crime here that withholding information of a crime and releasing this story rather than going to the police first has made a misjustice of the law by preventing Russell a fare trial.

[@ivapetrovska9986]

How can he defend himself against 4 anonymous accusers gone to media, for events from 10-17 years ago ?!

[@1574john]

Trial is pointless now they have achieved their aim.

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

Didn't they do the same to Johnny Depp? If he clears his name, there is going to be some hefty "defamation" lawsuits.

[@1574john]

@@eliakimjosephsophia4542 No they have remained anonymous

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

The testimony shared in the documentary revealed they were working at CH4. Listen to it again. The only aspect of annonymous is their names and some people were playing a part in the doc. However, if we take what was said literally by the people that spoke including the interviewer you will find it clearly said. @@1574john

[@eliakimjosephsophia4542]

I'm talking about the media. Brand has already won one case against the media for "libel". @@1574john

[@chrispict42]

Female witnesses MUST lose anonymity.

[@karenneville-b8q]

With his reputation what were these women expecting. A cup of tea and a scone?

[@melgrant7404]

Not rape though

[@r1pperuk]

at least TalkTV leave the comments on unlike all the other "credible new networks"

[@melgrant7404]

There wasn't forensic evidence in the Saville case but the verbal evidence was still believed. Why does forensic evidence come into historical cases when there is really only verbal evidence.

[@jimbrown2688]

His "accusers" will take him to a civil court gauranteed. The bar for proof is much lower. He's been hung out to dry. This must be a new record for destroying someines life.

[@sararahman7731]

If this goes to trial, it certainly won't be boring.

[@Irishmammy281]

Morgan helped create the gutter press and now complains when it comes to bite

[@StimParavane]

It's highly unlikely that this will end up in court. And the journalists know this.

[@rachelkingsley668]

Those who are defending Russell are not defending his bad behaviour in the past, but rather his right to be given a chance to defend himself against allegations. If there are criminal accusations then this should be a police and court issue.

[@melgrant7404]

It's already a police issue.

[@turquoiseopalfruit]

Spot on!! This should never have been aired on television either, it should be made a criminal offence. The TV company should have gone straight to the police with their findings, not aired it until a fair trial has been had. They don't care one iota about the 'accusers'.

[@turquoiseopalfruit]

​​@@melgrant7404 Yes, after the documentary was aired. The TV company should not have aired the documentary, it should be a criminal offence tbh.

[@garymellor5100]

He doesn't have a conspiracy show. He reports on the things the media don't report accurately on. Mainly through the convid era. A lot of us knew most of this before Brand started his show.

[@garethc4135]

When Brand was on the left and as vocal as possible about it he was loved. Now he is a libertarian/centrist speak truth and facts they ate trying to bring him down.

[@darthnatas953]

10:36 Wrong. Blackstone (1753-1765) maintains that "the law holds that it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer." Lord Hale (1678) ...for it is better five guilty persons should escape unpunished than one innocent person should die." Fortescue (1825) Indeed, one would much rather that twenty guilty persons should escape the punishment of death than that one innocent person should be condemned and suffer capitally." Julian Ceasar (1198) "If it suffices to accuse, what will become of the innocent?"

[@zoltan-zq3xe]

I stand with Russel!

[@stoicsavage509]

Stand with him but can't even spell his name 🤦🤪🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@giovannisoave9634]

Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris, Russell Brand... When will this stop?

[@1976brenden]

Piers clams it’s a “conspiracy theory” to think that RBs KZbin channel is the real target of these allegations…yet, that’s the one thing that has been accomplished through this assault on RB by the media… demonetization and soon to be shut down all together I’m sure. So, conspiracy theory?

[@chumleyk]

When Brand WAS on the 'left', and all these allegations were known for years, he was protected and thoroughly promoted. Sinister stuff

[@LynnWalmsley-ik3de]

I don’t like Russel Brand but I won’t believe he is guilty of any of this unless he is found so in a court of law .

[@johns2262]

Well, hang on. Chatting up a 16 year old on the street isn't illegal. Sending a taxi to her school gates isn't either. Neither is asking her to save his name in her phone as someone else isn't and coaching her what to say to her family also isn't. Yet, it is predatory and hints at grooming and most people in the country will find it creepy, or worse. Yet, no crime. Now, does Brand have an automatic right for that experience to stay hidden forever because it wasn't a crime? This is a guy who is discussing some quite far out there theories on his channel without a shred of evidence in case of the Maui fires, for example. If he is found to have done as outlined to that 16 year old he will be automatically convicted in the court of public opinion for everything else, even if they don't go to court. Of course, it might all be nonsense and this open secret thing we hear about is a complete nonsense based on numerous instances of hearsay.

[@melgrant7404]

@@johns2262 Saville was hearsay originally.

[@markhutton6055]

Believe all Women? Except if they are young white women accusing protected demographics. In which case send them straight to jail.

[@pedromagalhaes7924]

😂😂 we already know this playbook stay strong 💪 Russell