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"The first time I ever really listened to Kyle Kulinski’s show was in the back of a cab last summer. The driver had his phone hooked up through the stereo and was pumping out an episode through the car speakers - loudly, as if looking to convert a captive audience.
“Do you like Kyle Kulinski?”
The driver, Ahmed, was a recent immigrant and apparently a die-hard fan of Secular Talk, the political talk show that Kulinski broadcasts on KZbin. I told him, yes, in fact. I do like Kulinski, had come across his show several years ago, and, all things considered, he seemed pretty good.
“He understands what we’re up against,” Ahmed said. “Like Bernie.”
But I was surprised to hear Kulinski’s name mentioned in the same breath as Bernie Sanders, particularly with such adoration. Because what I did remember about Kulinski’s show struck me as mostly capital-P “progressive” takes on the news - the left wing of the Netroots crowd more than the democratic socialism Sanders has popularized.
It’s an impression that wasn’t entirely incorrect.
“I have no time for philosophical, airy bullshit,” Kulinski tells me from his home in Westchester, New York. “I don’t want to hear about Lenin. I don’t want to hear about Marx. I just want a super plainspoken, straightforward agenda with a straightforward way of selling it.”
With over 800,000 subscribers and nearly 670 million total views on KZbin, selling a progressive agenda is clearly something Kulinski knows how to do - even Democracy Now, the long-standing flagship of progressive media, cannot match his reach on the platform. Chapo Trap House can certainly boast a wildly devoted fan base (and a not insignificant degree of media influence), but their audience is roughly half the size of Kulinski’s.
While Secular Talk might be more likely to be looped in with the progressive networks around Air America and Pacifica alums like Sam Seder than the more resolutely socialist world, Kulinski’s fiery rhetoric, razor-sharp class instincts, and knack for withering takedowns sets him apart from his peers. Judging by his rhetoric alone, he’s closer to a Eugene Debs than a Chris Hayes.
But unlike Hayes, Amy Goodman, or his friend Cenk Uygur of The Young Turks - who began airing Secular Talk on his web network seven years ago - the thirty-two-year-old Kulinski is virtually invisible in the mainstream media. Despite his enormous fan base, his show has never once been mentioned in the obligatory trend pieces on “the Millennial Left” pumped out by the prestige media. Nor has Kulinski’s name ever popped up at all in the New York Times, Vox, the New Yorker, New York Magazine, or the Washington Post, despite his leading role in cofounding Justice Democrats, the organization widely credited with sweeping Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the rest of “the Squad” to power.
Just last week, his Wikipedia page was deleted. The reason? “There is very simply no [reliable source] coverage of this person,” according to one moderator. In new media, he’s king - the Sean Hannity of the Berniecrat left. In old media, he’s nobody.
I suspect there are a few reasons for that. There is nothing “cool” about Kulinski’s show. (As a friend put it, “‘Welcome to Secular Talk’ sounds like something you’d hear on Egyptian radio.”) His no-nonsense social-democratic politics won’t get him much cred with the Full Communism crowd. He records his show not in Brooklyn or Los Angeles, but in a studio he built himself in his modest Westchester home. His hair is too groomed and his taste in clothes too preppy to qualify as “Dirtbag Left.” Nor has he ever attended an n+1 release party. “Not only have I not attended one,” he says, “I have no idea what that means.”
And yet he’s astonishingly plugged-in for a young man in the suburbs. Wondering how Sanders ended up on the Joe Rogan Experience? Kulinski, a frequent guest on Rogan’s wildly popular show, introduced them. “You make the most sense to me,” Rogan told Kulinski on a recent episode. “You’re a normal person.”
Much like Sanders himself, Kulinski’s show has a massive audience that just doesn’t compute with our media’s understanding of “what the kids want” or even “what the left-wing kids want.”
It’s probably for the best - the very woke and very WASP-ish decorum haunting much of the media world is nowhere to be found in Secular Talk. “Corporate Democrats over-focus on identity as a trick to divert you from the issues that unite us all - class issues,” he said on a recent episode.
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[@robertjenkins6132]

Bernie 2016: Medicare for all! Biden 2024: We finally beat Medicare!

[@miken.1705]

I always knew we could do it 😢

[@thescoobymike]

The whole debate I was autocorrecting for Biden in my head but sentences like that one were completely indecipherable

[@Kwicc213]

😂

[@jaefrmbk2k]

tap Bernie baby Less Goo! 🐦 🔥

[@BadBrucey]

I actually laughed out loud. All you can do is laugh at this point. "Trump just won the election and says he will ignore the 22nd amendment...but at least we beat Medicare." 😂

[@jameslewis6259]

We coulda had Bernie. Instead we got Weekend at Bernie's.

[@DOPEDOGTOPDOG]

but Bernie was absolute garbage , though , he was just a funnel to bring back the disgruntled democrats to vote for Hilary , then Biden . That's politics 101 , man . And people got fooled .Twice . shame on you for falling for such obvious BS

[@skippy6086]

And you probably were one of those have been defending this clown throughout his entire shytshow administration.

[@Songfugel]

We could still have Raskin, please please please someone make Biden step down and put Jamie Raskin in his place

[@alandewhirst7211]

The DNC would happily hand the country over to Trump over even letting Bernie on the ballot.

[@cutcut1980]

😂

[@MuggleKarp]

America: The 1st world country whose government chooses its OWN candidates and THEN tells us we can pick from those choices, and that we should be ever thankful we get to choose at all. God save us.

[@lailahwcusansdbdb]

Nah, but please, someone tell me how and why the USA is considered a democracy? And these two options left are literally the same thing, same coin on different sides…. And who tf was actually governing the USA for the last 4 years?! It was definitely not Joe Biden

[@jameswhite3415]

Why would the position of most powerful man in the world be competitive? So what if they can end billions of lives. We should be grateful for anyone as the other guy is so much worse! Both parties

[@negroniusblaximus7420]

Democrats are gonna save democracy by picking someone no one voted for after biden croaks lmao ooor theyll pick biden who they canceled the primaries for and no one voted for

[@nicks7768]

Butch: "You ok?" Marcellus Wallace: "Nah, man. I'm pretty fuckin far from ok."

[@RenghisKhan]

350 million citizens and Biden and Trump are running for presidency. What a friggin freak show.

[@EdertheJust]

How did we get here?

[@glennmaxwell5394]

Trump is a good candidate.

[@justsomeguy6336]

@@EdertheJustBoomers and women. But specifically universal suffrage

[@joem4418]

@@glennmaxwell5394they both suck

[@glennmaxwell5394]

@@joem4418 nope nope nope, you've been listening to mainstream media alot. If you stopped now, you probably listened before. Turn off fox, cnn and all the other crap. Turn off people with trump derangement syndrome. Don't get your opinions from journalists, there are no journalists these days, they are only political activists. Media and reporting on truth and facts has become a joke and networks have become marketing agencies for their parties rather than being fair and honest reporting to the American people. Trump is not the best president, not even the best human, but he is what this country needs. A no BS businessman who does not give a Frick, other then getting money into our country.

[@Kerm448]

We all said "I'd vote for a potato over Donald Trump", and the democrats gave us a potato.

[@mehmetsbirlik4112]

AMEN!!! ALREADY MASHED, READY TO SERVE!😂😂😂

[@tracysauvage1351]

😅😅😅

[@tracysauvage1351]

Ps...I'm going to post this comment to my cousin if you don't mind... it's classic...😅😅😅 From Ireland 🇮🇪

[@Nobddy]

And we still have to vote for the potato because the other guy is raw beans

[@florentn7442]

i think you'd be the potato in that story

[@jimslaton9057]

Bruh-- you mean to say "one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel."

[@SuntzuMocro]

Stealing comments?

[@jimslaton9057]

@@SuntzuMocro I wouldn't know to whom to attribute the quote, but I DID put the phase in quotes. Now, that's not really stealing is it?

[@elijahcummings4018]

​@@SuntzuMocroI've seen people comment "stealing comments?" So now whom is stealing comments?

[@SuntzuMocro]

@@elijahcummings4018 I am the greatest comment thief of all that times, so I know one when I see one. In addition, I have seen people comment "stealing comments? So now whom is stilling comment".

[@SuntzuMocro]

@@jimslaton9057 I am just kidding around....

[@beavis408]

"We finally beat Medicare" -Joe Biden, 2024

[@zcorpalpha2462]

🤪

[@joseramirez2310]

Democrats were told sooo many times to choose another candidate. All they had to do was get another half ass candidate and they would have beaten Trump. This is on them

[@dustinsindledecker154]

Yet no democrat stood up to challenge him

[@patchwurk6652]

@@dustinsindledecker154 ....EXCUSE ME!?!?! PLENTY DID! YOU PEOPLE gaslit everyone into accepting Biden!

[@joshuashawYT]

@@dustinsindledecker154 Well Dean Phillips did but obviously he's not well-known

[@rdragon193]

​@@joshuashawYT umm marianne williamson? RFK jr?

[@genreartwithjb5095]

They would rather have another term of Trump then raise taxes on themselves and the wealthy. They aren’t incompetent- they just don’t care if they lose

[@TheMotiveDJ]

America missed its opportunity with Bernie and I'll never forgive or forget that.

[@kyoakland]

I feel the same

[@JW-mw7sr]

Blame Obama

[@horacecomegna335]

Bernie was a sell out putz.😂😂😂

[@emhu2594]

It was rigged. Get real

[@adrianf7732]

The Democrat Party machine did that.

[@davemccutcheon9053]

Never should have been promoted 4 years ago over Sanders. Whoever made that decision then needs to resign also .

[@waynemorgan6153]

The Democrat primary voters made that decision.

[@bogganalseryd2324]

the joeverton window just moved

[@cassandratq9301]

🎯

[@UnoriginalUsername25]

One guy was lying. The other was dying.

[@venenodelalengua]

so true... #lyingvsdying

[@jasonsmith530]

👏 👏 👏

[@dougr8646]

No, Biden was doing both. Trump was dominating! Trump gonna win baby!!!

[@LongShaynx]

While America was crying.

[@krsnamax6494]

@@dougr8646yes the guy who denies January 6th and a convicted criminal…

[@almosthelpless9374]

Bernie Sanders was apparently too old in 2016 and 2020 but Joe Biden cannot be criticized for his stamina.

[@lizardKingCDXX]

Sad thing is Bernie would STILL run circles around both of them.

[@chetanphoenix]

Bernie is still kicking and would've kicked Trump's ass if he were on the debate stage.

[@michelleburkholder2547]

Bernie drank the Trump Derangement Kool-aid. Now Trump will be president again. That is the definition of irony.

[@PhilDrury]

I really think that their only chance of victory is to replace him with Bernie Sanders.

[@maxdoubt5219]

Bernie could president until he's 100.

[@officialpowerofbanana]

how is anyone surprised? This is the same guy he's been the past several months. Nothing changed overnight

[@FoulWeatherFriend385]

It was the first time most people saw Biden uncut & unfiltered. He had no teleprompter to save him and he got totally lost. There’s no denying his senility now.

[@eileenmc4746]

During last campaign was going senile

[@bird4816]

they're delusional. it's that simple. they worry so much about Trump that they were blind to everything that wasn't Trump. their hate caused their downfall.

[@negroniusblaximus7420]

Buh buh buh joe joe joe scarborough on morning joe sqaid he waa the sharpest most intelligent bestest most healthiest president ever and the beat condition hes ever beeen in did diid hee LIIIIE :0000 😂😂😂😂😂😮😮😅😅😅😊😊😊🎉❤

[@folkvarwolfwind]

Idiocracy is not a comedy. Its a documentary about the future.

[@trish5111]

Watching from Australia - I said that to my son the first time Trump was elected. The second time will be nuts !

[@EllePole]

Sitting scared up here in Canada. I hate all of this

[@tfonias]

Unfortunately yes

[@TheCompleteMental]

Isnt idiocracy about how eugenics is good?

[@nsnbc6093]

We've all heard that joke.

[@bruceleeroy8302]

Bro, even David Pakman said it was bad, and Pakman does his best to never criticize Biden

[@talyahr3302]

Dang. I was just saying I wonder what Morning Joe, David Pakman, & Midas Touch are going to say 😂

[@TroyJScott]

Packman was crying on his boyfriends shoulder all night! This debate confirms Packman is bought and sold by the Dem party.

[@snausages43]

Same thing with Vaush, but he also blamed CNN.

[@David-bh1rn]

Pakman is really just a democrat plant at this point and his implicit support of israel cements it

[@CommandoP]

I thought the exact same….

[@ekrenz5268]

If no one felt shame over Feinstein, no one will feel shame for Biden.

[@miken.1705]

Sad but true

[@purplebutterfly314]

They got to. I'm portuguese and even here this is being talked about. Unless you're a nerd about american politics, people outside of America don't have a clue who Feinstein is. But when it's your literal PRESIDENT and the supposed "leader of the free world", there's no way to hide.

[@fangal12]

Yeah, the Democratic party is one step away from going full Weekend at Bernie's with Old Joe.

[@Minnehappalishis]

Truth

[@corpsmankind]

I felt shame seeing feinsteins dead eyes being wheeled around by Nancy pelosi's daughter. Shame for the entire nation

[@deus_vult8111]

“Losers & Suckers” line was totally false even John Bolton denied it happened

[@deus_vult8111]

Also, If Kyle throws out the GOP court cases challenging 2020 then he must dismiss the Democrat lawsuits challenging 2000.

[@PowerSerge87]

Well as the great G. Carlin once said, "when ur born in the world, u get a ticket to the freak show. When ur born in 'Muricah, u get a front row seat."

[@tailwaggindragon]

Carlin saw the future it seemed. Sad that he was able to recognize the freak show back then and we're still dealing with the same shit. As he once said...it's all bullshit and it's bad for ya.

[@Clouden3]

Remember when people said Bernie was too old? And at 80 years old right now, he looks like he'd take both of these clowns to the woodshed.

[@anthonytwohill9726]

True

[@matt45540]

That's because Bernie actually has a woodshed... I can only assume

[@dylantuten6621]

Bernie is fraud and a thief has been for decades.

[@OfficialSeth]

@@matt45540 And even if he doesn't he used to be a carpenter so he could build one.

[@djkevgar]

That's what makes me the most mad, and it was totally obvious the past 2 election cycles, Bernie is old but looks and sounds the same as he did in like 1970

[@jaidev777]

"What did I just watch?" You basically saw the most accurate representation of both parties. The cruel party that crowned a pathological liar on one side, the smug aristocracy that crowned a shambling corpse on the other.

[@GOLANX]

Its like American Politics is a Parody of itself. It would be funny if we didnt have to suffer the Consequences.

[@dandotvid]

This is so true.

[@IsThisHandleTaken]

devastatingly accurate summary

[@WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer]

More of an internet troll on one side and patient Z on the other.

[@lynns4426]

It's almost like we get what we vote for lol.

[@marcoaurelio8058]

This has to be the funniest post-political analysis I've ever heard. 🤣

[@VULGARxRM]

The morals of an alley cat line was great

[@SSdet]

What does that even mean?

[@bkh8528]

@VULGARxRM Yea almost as “great” as a then presidential candidate saying “if you don’t vote for me then you ain’t black”……… right? ……….. 🤨 Well take your little “victory lap” for your choice of president because of a “great” alley cat line……….. 😉

[@VULGARxRM]

@@bkh8528 lol what?

[@VULGARxRM]

@@SSdet A kind of sleazy and salacious individual who only looks out for himself... think of how a cartoon alley cat from an old Looney Toones episode might act.

[@4362mont]

Kyle is going to be the most ageist bro' in the nursing home, someday. He already tries to sound ' young ' & it's increasingly ridiculous.

[@ChavaYang]

Its not democrat vs republicans, its 1% vs everyone else.

[@waltergrace565]

Kyle's the 1%.

[@harsimarbhatia2927]

@@waltergrace565thank you finally someone on this channel who isn’t a liberal masquerading as a socialist

[@waltergrace565]

@@harsimarbhatia2927 This is just a corporate dem cult channel.

[@evelync177]

...or more to the point: Aipac vs everyone else.

[@charlesbrown351]

And which candidate do you think represents the 1%

[@gingerm7800]

I knew it was gonna be a trainwreck the moment Joe came out and greeted the audience. There was no audience.

[@nathancarr4692]

The people watching live aren't an audience?🤦‍♂️

[@aaronhrynyk]

@@nathancarr4692he didn’t greet the live viewers. He was greeting the room of which he was present. Go back and rewatch it

[@TomislavPuklin-wz1bl]

He practiced it prior. Why let practice go to waste? ​@@aaronhrynyk

[@rmkg04]

​@@aaronhrynyk he did greet the live viewers

[@fwfeo]

He also pointed! He’s doing all the cool moves he used to do at 25% energy level, so it looks absolutely pathetic and sad!

[@jake__w_thompson]

It amazes me how many people just realized this about Joe Biden. It’s been pretty clear for the last 4 years.

[@MrKratoscastro]

That was the most cringed, painful debate I ever seen in my life. The USA is totally fuck.😂

[@claudermiller]

Sociopaths never feel shame, and US politics is a super magnet for sociopaths.

[@Lt.-Dans-Legs]

I would imagine that "sociopath" explains 99% of this comment thread...

[@teshtishtoshtesh3218]

Politics in general have a tendency to attract the worst people to wield political power. That's why checks and balances are important.

[@keeleycarrigan]

I mean pretty much any position of power attracts the wrong kind of person. Normal, good people don’t seek power. We just want to be happy and get through life with our happy times edging out the bad times. People who seek power should be looked at in a different perspective than we do.

[@TobiasC-mg4zk]

Sometimes it really seems like the world is run by a gang of sociopaths. At one point when humans lived in small clans and tribes the sociopath evolved as a useful trait to defend the tribe. Why we still elevate these social parasites today is one of the greatest obstacles and human tragedies.

[@lmao-v1u]

arent all the people in politics sexually assaulting people republicans?

[@doughnuthead8757]

If there was any justice in this country, these two wouldn't be running.

[@smiller2114]

Very true.

[@seand.g423]

_country?_ how about _fucking TIMELINE???_

[@BlakeElliott35]

100%

[@txbaca4861]

So you're anti-democracy...I really don't get this comment. If the left doesn't want dementia Joe, they shouldn't have voted for him in the primaries...it really is that simple.

[@ovid4]

Finally an accurate comment.

[@someguy7819]

Retirement home ass debate. I swear my 90 year old grandparents one of which with dementia argue more coherently

[@Soul_underground]

Progressives and leftists everywhere “we told you”

[@creoshin9082]

lol thats funny. All I see from liberals and progressives, for the last few years, is that Biden is "as sharp as a tack" and "laser focused"

[@nsnbc6093]

Your point was lost. What did you mean?

[@stanm4410]

"We finally defeated Medicare." - Joe Biden. June 27th, 2024.

[@miken.1705]

..It was a hard fight but we did it

[@49er4life303]

Trumps response to that was hilarious though. “ You’re right you beat Medicare, you beat it to death” 😂

[@lmao-v1u]

@@49er4life303 didnt republicans vote against medicare expansion?

[@IWannaUnaliveMyself]

“We had H2O, we had it” - Donald Trump. June 27th, 2024

[@patrickmike2524]

@@49er4life303 Yeah that was pretty hard slam.

[@conors4430]

It’s hard to tell a guy in cognitive decline that he’s in cognitive decline, and expect a logical response, when he’s in cognitive decline. That’s the scary part about all of this

[@porkchopexpress07]

I know. And one already tried a violent coup.

[@HPW23]

Well said

[@comochinganconesto]

That's what the 25th Amendment is for.

[@jamesmorrison7989]

What’s scarier is all the democrats still pretending like he hasn’t obviously mentally declined.

[@nunzioification]

Biden isn’t calling the shots

[@crazyobservations3080]

Joe is wasted. He was wasted the first time around too. He screwed Bernie in the primary to get the seat and this is what we got.

[@scottheathco7323]

if using the word "bro" was an argument you would be king

[@mountbeckworth1]

Grandpa Simpson versus Mr Burns on steroids.

[@billyboy1093]

I'm stealing that!

[@estefanymurillo22]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@r.l.strange1897]

😂

[@SlowWalkingMohairSam]

😂

[@wateim3951]

I would only modify meth steroids, but otherwise excellent.

[@heroofthepeoplesrepublicof1170]

That debate was a national embarrassment to the USA and its people.

[@shecklesmack9563]

As many problems as we have... we deserve better. It was a disgrace.

[@cachi-7878]

Agreed and Kyle was hilarious on this video.

[@teorewatepou1493]

That's an out right lie. Nobody killing their babies at nine months.

[@billyboy1093]

That was the biggest takeaway from this sht show.

[@MISSYGful]

UK 🇬🇧 here. Oh dear God, I don't envy you. What an awful choice.

[@tedhodge4830]

He's pretending Krystal and him aren't going to vote for Joe with a smile on their face 🤣

[@ABunnyorABun]

lol I don’t think Krystal likes Biden to be honest. It’s like having a sibling that does opposite to what you want

[@John-gi6yh]

Exactly lol. It’s like the comments section forgets watching Kyle melt down when Brianna joy gray said she wouldn’t vote for Biden

[@tedhodge4830]

@@John-gi6yh LOL that's what I was thinking of

[@leslieeng6676]

This debate was about just one question: whether Biden's cognitive thinking was normal or not, and now everyone knows he isn't.

[@spacedonut8157]

DNC should have reformatted him before the debate. He seems to have picked up some malware that's clogging his RAM up.

[@maxwellkelly4667]

@@spacedonut8157I think that’s mostly the aipac Trojan

[@n_cog_neato]

Everybody knew he it 4 years ago, the news is just acknowledging it now. And that’s because they’re replacing him.

[@PhilipPedro2112]

It isn't? Oh well. So now you're not gonna vote for anyone? Voting for the Chump?

[@napoleonbonerfarte6739]

​@@PhilipPedro2112You're clinically insane

[@Greendalewitch]

I cant do this no more. How about we just all abandon society and set sail to the high seas as pirates, trying to find the One Piece?

[@cloudbloom]

Somebody give Biden a gum gum fruit to snap out of it

[@Redactstrength]

No liberals need to reflect hard on how they got here. Gaslighting and corruption. Yeah trump sucks. Dems are soooo corrupt

[@travishindman9362]

The Strawhats are basically a rogue socialist terrorist organization and that is incredibly based!

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

It is in Sweden, I will ser sail for there to find it.

[@jasonrobinson401]

Could we perhaps do that without leaving land? Maybe we could be highway pirates? Riding around in modified busses, with masts attached so we can have flags still ☠️

[@lynnca1972]

It was a shitshow. It wasn't just that Biden kept bumbling, it was also the facial expressions while Trump talked and the staring off into space.

[@whensomethingcriesagain]

I lost my grandfather to dementia late last year, and I can't stress this enough: Biden in this debate sounded EXACTLY like my grandfather did in the last year of his life, same pauses, inflections, cadence, speed, coherence, everything.

[@kylian69]

He's really Bidone

[@m.janeroberts8640]

😄

[@okirrama3587]

Bigone

[@jblazer2492]

Bidone Joever!

[@AltusNoumena]

I needed that

[@Tupadre97]

its joever we're bidone

[@brettstarks1846]

This is the presidential debate America deserves. What a joke of a country.

[@kimkaans1072]

What a circus 🎪

[@matthewgeissinger2856]

Banana 🍌 Republic.

[@kurtboyer299]

Democrats are about to become the sad old white righties of the Obama years. Neighbors will avoid you after 4-5 "This sick world's gone to shit"'s.

[@topdoted]

Amen!!!

[@williesparks]

It is and has always been a F-up country.

[@ebrahimmoradi321]

"They should have given him every upper ever made..." that's pure gold!!

[@siobanethier]

Jon Stewart said pretty much the same thing

[@gingerm7800]

Yeah, I was really surprised they didn't pump him up with more. Should have used the same combo they gave him for that State of the Union speech.

[@petedawg]

I’m sure they did.

[@adlucem9845]

remember in 2020 bernie was winning iowa and new hampshire? the george floyd breaks out and no one noticed that bernie magically started losing every state. when they asked bidone if he was worried he snickered "nah Im not worried about bernie" then he grins ear to ear and winks at the camera.

[@slamrobot6584]

Bernie is still razor-sharp.

[@lt_dreams96]

Right now, we don't need anybody older than 70 near the white house

[@M0saab]

@@lt_dreams96 you would have a problem if Bernie were to magically become president because he’s old that’s fucking insane😂😂 there’s nobody who knows more about politics or as is as experienced or has the policy beliefs that the majority of the country does the American people agree with the policies that Bernie wants and he still completely mentally there and sharp and witty so he would be perfect president material but he’s old so that’s bad and you want someone else who would be objectively much worse because he’s not as old I think about it

[@Ironcorgi2]

The stress of the office would have made him a worse candidate.

[@HierophanticRose]

Its a strange thing, human biology. Some people age only physically, some people age mentally too. My grandpa was as eloquent as I knew him when I was a toddler as I knew him when I was in my 20s, right up to his deathbed. But sadly this is not the case for everyone.

[@marylandsteve5441]

yeah to bad hes a sellout with the spine of a jellyfish

[@RicardoMoralesMassin]

Bernie is a year older than Biden. He would've wiped the floor with Trump. It's not an age issue as much as a vitality issue.

[@BK-wb9bg]

It’s a dementia issue, not vitality

[@thomasjohn6041]

Wiped the floor. Bwhahahahaha .

[@jasonashley9853]

​@@thomasjohn6041almost anyone at this point other than Biden would make Trump look like the lunatic he is.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

​@@BK-wb9bgExactly, it's dementia not merely chronology. I've known people in their 90s who have mental acuity and people in their 50s who don't.

[@brianmelody8930]

Exactly!!!

[@jonas9883]

During his D-day speech a few weeks ago I was surprised about how lucid and coherent he was, and I thought the talks about his condition was exaggerated, but seeing his performance and the debate it's clear that it was not only true what people said, it was worse than what anyone could imagine.

[@spacetruckin6555]

Mainstream media before the debate: "Joe Biden is in the best shape of his life!" After the debate: "We can't cover for him any more."

[@cookingwithsilence]

We are Pokemon Go-ing strait to hell....

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

That's where all the interesting people will be

[@Enlightened0ne]

no one is playing that anymore.

[@andrewfridmanpiano]

@@Enlightened0neHillary Clinton reference

[@austinrutledge2935]

@@Enlightened0ne bro I still play lol

[@kushclarkkent6669]

@@Enlightened0ne You don't sound very "enlightened" homie.

[@Winston-lf7sb]

it was a battle of the ages. it was between a man dying of old age and an old man dying for attention

[@Dylanquinn666]

The senile force meets the incontinent object.

[@MrLurch133]

Well played

[@Cheesycat501]

Yep, a battle of the ages, alright! “Too old” and “even older than that!”

[@MrLurch133]

@Cheesycat501 trump was lively biden was deadly for his campaign.

[@adwok7169]

Cope harder, trump mogged biden.

[@bathsheba9581]

I believe he has Parkinson's and not the early stage. He has the Parkinson's shuffle, he iis stiff as a board, he can't bend t the waist or turn, and his brain is stuttering; he can't follow a thought.

[@bluehero-96]

This is partly why the DRNC should not be allowed to gatekeep the primaries.

[@eveitsnotthatserious1677]

Told my husband this was a debate between Twiddle Dead and Twiddle Dumb

[@TerrariaGolem]

I'm taking this

[@jasonmorgan27]

Told my wife this is why we need to repeal the 19th

[@collins48lc]

Yes between you and your husband

[@ryanp8205]

Which one is which?

[@stevejohnson6053]

debate implies there were two people. you just described biden twice

[@prschuster]

When his wife said to him, after the debate, "you did great, you answered all the questions", even she talks to him like he's a toddler.

[@TheJadeJester]

So Jill should be first on the docket on charges for elder abuse.

[@lb2696]

@@TheJadeJester it’s criminal.

[@rtm365bnc]

So Melania could tell Conald, you did great you didn’t answer any questions.

[@Ratgodx]

@@rtm365bncit hurts you doesn’t it?

[@el-Cu9432]

​@@TheJadeJesterDefinitely.

[@roviannematovu3756]

What was doubly despicable was Trump calling Genocide Joe, "a v bad Palestinian" - giving Bibi 2 green lights "2 finish the job" [in Gaza]. Then Jill patronising him afterwards. 12yrs in WH shdve been a sufficient privilege 2 enjoy a luxurious retirement.

[@shadowprince4482]

One thing we can all take some solace in is that any President isn't allowed to drive.

[@Paul-82]

Imagine losing a debate to Donald freaking Trump of all people.

[@UberHeroMystic]

Hillary Clinton

[@Babygirlly555]

Trump is a New Yorker. You can't out talk a New Yorker.

[@EvonZundel]

@@UberHeroMysticyou got it!

[@-Thunder]

Trump's been doing 2 hour rally speeches for the past year. Biden has been missing in action. Everyone knew this was coming.

[@PhilipPedro2112]

There was no debate to win or lose.

[@kenyangaza5671]

The debate symbolised the state of America on the world stage today.

[@zacklapaglia7644]

A Dying Empire, led by Bad People...

[@zeeone4492]

Trump Biden and the dollar are too old for school

[@Re-PhantomZero]

It's a circus of demons.

[@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist]

America is f'cked, the Roman Empire is falling.

[@SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist]

America is screwed, the Roman Empire is falling.

[@thepowerlesspod]

I still can't quite grasp that Biden performed THAT badly. It's unreal.

[@mheberling5939]

That sucked so bad. I have ignored it. I stayed off social media all day. I kept busy to avoid Trumpsters and other people talking about this debate. The Dem party is completely responsible for this. It's sad. Bernie should have been our guy in 2016. Plain and simple.

[@Chuckina_]

💯

[@Adeon55]

I bet you were seeking out Trumpsters a few weeks ago to gloat about how your side is about to imprison its #1 political opponent.

[@bionicsentinel1529]

Cope and Seethe.

[@TXlowlifeTX]

Lmao bionic with the brain rot

[@bionicsentinel1529]

@@TXlowlifeTX I was actually hoping for a response. Thanks, dumb@ss. 👍

[@EasytheGoon]

Dude this has been obvious for years the fact people have refused to believe it has been astounding.

[@CelticSaint]

Classic Cognitive dissonance.

[@waltergrace565]

You realize Kyle's made multiple dark Brandon videos, right?

[@AndreB23]

Number one; We are cooked. Number two; We are *SO* cooked. And number three; It has never been more Joever as it is right now.

[@assassindancer914]

Nah, cooking is implying that it could still taste good. For the country, it's burning down the whole house lmfao.

[@PhilipPedro2112]

Just don't forget to vote. OK?

[@assassindancer914]

@@PhilipPedro2112 It won't help, we're doomed. Thanks boomers 😂

[@ew6230]

anyone shocked by this or who thinks orange man bad, must realize now how wrong they have been and that they need to reevaluate everything they've been told by the media.

[@stephbutler8704]

I work in a care home with people with dementia, so it's something I'm very familiar with, and I'd say he has dementia. Personally I think it's cruel to let him struggle on like this, it's painful to watch and someone should step in. It's not just insanity to let him stand for another term, it's unkind to allow him to do so.

[@tmen1476]

Bernie not winning the 2016 primary really transferred us to the alternate universe

[@__rm307]

Not to mention Obama bailing out the banks + losing his Supreme Court nomination (that’s been effing us ever since)

[@thesystemera]

Agreed

[@Chuckina_]

@@tmen1476 💯

[@mteokay1246]

Blame it on the Democrat establishment for choosing their own instead of what the common people wanted.

[@jessegibson7734]

@@mteokay1246you are 💯 percent correct they colluded against Bernie and this is the end result

[@willpina]

I don't know what was worse for Biden, when he spoke or when he was quiet.

[@richiebeans129]

Kyle, there is no plan anymore.

[@Myrrdhin83]

What is the point of debating if one side is factually wrong? The problem with debates is that they allow demagogues to sell their propaganda. Policy comparison should be the only element essential in the voting process.

[@pvw732]

I made it through 2 minutes. I tried to flip back to it a couple times. Republicans put up the oldest and most unintelligible person possible for president, Democrats said "hold my beer".

[@Muna4781]

🤣😂

[@mteokay1246]

😂😂😂😂😂😂🍻🍻🍻🍺🍺🍺🍺

[@joshuaperrin3910]

Makes Reagan's brain look normal by comparison.

[@elizabethmadron1336]

Where doing all we can... Remember those comebacks he used to give.

[@liquidminds]

Reagans brain, today... if you dug him up...

[@FazeParticles]

Both were senile at the end of their presidency

[@gnostic268]

Jill is reaching Nancy Reagan levels of running the show by consulting her astrologer for all the important decisions and then telling Ronnie what to do

[@marlonbryanmunoznunez3179]

And just like with Reagan, all the scumbags surrounding him will publish tell it all books about how was it in Joe's White House when is safe for them to do it, just to cash in a little more.

[@Vifnis]

Trump: *"WE HAVE H2O, I PLAY GOLF..."* Biden: "well... you know... if, I... ugh--Look..."

[@catpyjamas]

This is what an empire with a completely rotten core looks like.

[@Luckboy28]

Nothing about that debate was okay. We have to replace Biden immediately.

[@Babygirlly555]

It's too late The election is in three months.

[@GOLANX]

Who is we? The Primary is Over, its a smoke Filled Back room now, its Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, and AIPAC picking that Replacement. Its too Late for the Democrats.

[@joyfullydreaded1371]

BOTH NEED TO BE REPLACED IMMEDIATELY!!

[@GOLANX]

@@Luckboy28 who is we? The smoke Filled Back room? Democrats made their choice, now they live with it.

[@jasonmorgan27]

@@joyfullydreaded1371 Because your personal life in America was Sooooooooo bad in 2016-2020. WTF is wrong with you?

[@Colleywoodstudios]

Our expectations were low BUT HOLY SHIT!!!

[@anthonyelledge7475]

FOR REAL THOUGH...........................

[@ezyfnef]

😂

[@arthurfonzarelli9828]

Seriously it took last night for that to happen? Why the hell haven't you been paying attention the past couple years? This clown has not even been allowed to run a press conference the last couple years and instead of questioning why this is the case the media and the Democratic party voters have acted like it's normal. You did this to yourself. The only ones upset today are the ones who've been lying to you for years now. This is all a big act the Democratic party is rotten to the core

[@imthecreatorofmyrealitymyf700]

😂😂😂 I swear

[@deplorable2767]

Biden is a disaster 😂

[@fumpr84]

Update: He wasn't the definition of Weekend at Bernie's at a rally the next day and media/Dems went into overdrive about how great he is lol.

[@hypermiraclepositivegirl2415]

Ngl, someone said "Liberals would rather have Trump than someone like Marianne Williamson/Bernie" and reality just shows it to be true every time. There's no other reason the dems would support Biden unless they absolutely wanna lose

[@tailwaggindragon]

Republican, dem, it really doesn't matter to them. They're all on the same side anyway. The side of money. They want to keep the status quo and will prop up anybody that'll keep the money tap open. Want something done on your behalf in D.C.? Ya gotta bribe...I mean uh, ya gotta donate to their campaign fund. That's all they do in D.C., raise campaign funds. That's why people like Bernie, the squad, and Williamson get pushed out by dems....they wanna take that money away. So, yeah, they'll vote republican if it sustains their self-interest.

[@Anthonycheesman33]

Compared to now 2020 Biden looks like 2016 Bernie sanders

[@andyprompt]

Remember when everyone said Bernie was too old, white and male?

[@brianlane9627]

That may have been the worst night the Democrats have had since the assassination of JFK.

[@LRRPFco52]

The JFK assassination was a hit to the whole Nation, not partisan. Just like this decline with Biden already existed before 2020, and people ignored it for years. Look at what Robin Williams was already saying about him many years ago. This is all staged.

[@scottybabb6223]

Well I wouldn't really say that I mean no one's brains got blew out but if you mean that in a political way then yes definitely the Democrats totally 100% loss

[@JP-xq7fo]

Both have CIA/FBI involvement

[@abrahamlincoln937]

Johnson was elected to a full term in a landslide in 1964, the year after Kennedy died.

[@BradleytheDavis]

The CIA didn't even have to kill anybody this time lol

[@jasonsmouse6570]

If I didn't know anything about these two people, after watching this debate, I'd vote 100% for Trump. Biden was that bad.

[@chrislimnios9180]

Have to agree with you bro

[@n_cog_neato]

Dear Stan, the fact that you’re this surprised just shows how much you actually don’t know.

[@TXlowlifeTX]

Lmao to be still upset about it doesn’t mean he doesn’t know anything. Your emotional intelligence sucks bro.

[@audreyginsburg4924]

"What a great time to be alive if you love the theatre of the absurd."- David Lynch 🤣

[@andrewsmith3257]

Dude I'm considering being an absurdist instead of just a nihilist. Just embrace absurdism at this point. Albert Camus was right. We have gone completely insane as a country

[@mmusya793]

​@@andrewsmith3257lolol 🤣🤣🤣

[@thejackanapes5866]

@@andrewsmith3257 It's not just the inhabitants of the region humans call "this country." Humans are completely psychotic and extremely traumatized primates.

[@eyuin5716]

This was like watching Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy argue

[@talhahhussain5603]

Don't disrespect Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy like that.

[@UberHeroMystic]

Biden: EEVVIILLLL! WHERE IS IT? Now by the power vested in me, I now pronounce you man and wife. Moderator: sir this is a debate Biden: YOU MAY KISS THE BRIDE!

[@fatboyRAY24]

@@UberHeroMystic💀💀💀🤣🤣

[@islabee94]

🤣

[@klaudiadelmer1064]

Maybe his assistants are incompetent but this sharade of portraying him as mentally capable has to stop. You cannot possibly want him to run the country in this state?

[@ilyakuryakin4639]

To quote The Big O: It's over It's over It's over

[@tamikkajohnson1589]

I actually stopped a woman who was driving into oncoming traffic in the left turn lane. She told me she was trying to recreate her accident from the week prior. I got her out of the car. Parked her car safely in a lot. Drove her home and called her family. They called me to tell me that they got her to relinquish her license two weeks after the incident. Biden reminded me of this dazed woman that day.

[@uioplkhj]

Jail

[@youcanttakemyDIGNITY]

😆

[@subramag]

Cool story bro. Reminds me of when I won the lottery while vaccinating giraffes by helicopter.

[@hisoverlorduponhigh90]

The summary, the people lose.

[@jeremyjackson7429]

and Putin wins

[@rainedyani8505]

Yep.

[@G.Bfit.93]

That's the goal

[@m.janeroberts8640]

😢

[@woodedape]

Everyone thinks this is a major problem for a presidential candidate. Well, news flash!!! This unfit candidate happens to be our sitting POTUS. If they want him to step away as a candidate should he really be running the country? The US is fucked. Game over. OMFG!!!

[@OFFCODEV2]

Its crazy how much Kyle has changed, his little haircut,earring lol I remember the 40k subscriber days lool

[@MrChock009]

this debate looks like elder abuse.

[@jeremyjackson7429]

it IS elder abuse

[@trafficjon400]

2 elders abusing each other over age you mean? I don't feel I have a good choice .

[@andros1000]

Elders abusing everybody else, including others elders, as well.

[@lorascelsi8102]

​@@andros1000well said

[@HughMorristheJoker]

Don't equate it. Trump may be full of it, but he can speak and sound coherent. Biden is near death.

[@TheAed38]

Carrot Top vs. 107 year old Clint Eastwood would be more normal than the debate last night.

[@zeenat1196]

They are both at their worst!! America got anyone better for this job!!

[@kosmokritikos9299]

It would at least be good for a laugh or two. That disaster with Trump and Biden was painful to watch. After 5 minutes of it I switched over to the Beverly Hillbillies.

[@dvrrwd307]

One of the things I hate about the Democratic party is that they refuse to get us somebody we want to vote for. This is going to be a repeat of voting to keep Trump out of office.

[@Jonathan-gj1rl]

I haven’t watched Secular Talk in a while. Is Kyle having a midlife crisis?

[@lucasmucas2807]

America, you have my deepest sympathies. A choice of clown A or clown B.

[@barts6386]

I have no sympathy;)

[@renee9937]

America is flatlining and there’s a DNR order. R.I.P. Merica.

[@dustinsindledecker154]

After last night I think I want to get out of this country

[@user-ce2tb6hz4p]

I wish they had better candidates 😢

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

🤡USA

[@JohnConway-dg6lc]

If this wasn't so dangerous it would be hilarious.

[@jeremyjackson7429]

It is hilarious . . . hilariously depressing

[@robinmc142]

No it's still hilarious.

[@artemismoonbow2475]

Awe is the arrested mind between wonder and terror.

[@lindabond7964]

I predict a civil war.

[@robinmc142]

@@lindabond7964 eh. It's probably happening in France before over here.

[@beefybrigand4020]

"Joe Biden is cooked." Killed me

[@WildSeven19]

I'm seriously surprised that Trump didn't rip into Biden more. I would have expected relentless heckling and jokes about Biden's lack of mental acuity. Maybe he knows how bad a look it would be.