It's NOT a dressed up Squier - 2025 Fender Standard Strat - Parts Don't Lie

[@MrTabasham1990]

I think a lot of people mean it's essentially a Squire, not literally one.

[@benpowersguitar]

I think people just want it to be a Player debuting for this price, and it's intentionally not. But regardless, time will tell. I appreciate you watching.

[@jski718]

​@@benpowersguitar It could have been. It's cash grab garbage.

[@DenMan24Fan]

I have a Squier Deluxe Stratocaster from 2008 made by Cort in the same factory as these. It has a one-piece satin maple neck with a skunk stripe and 22 frets, AlNiCo V pickups, a full-sized basswood body, and a two-point trem with satin block steel saddles. The fretboard dimensions are the same as a Player Series. It’s a better guitar that cost less than half of what a new Standard goes for. So yeah, the F-word on the headstock doesn’t make it better.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@DenMan24Fan Never played that one. Sounds nice.

[@justmehere6094]

Exactly. It's Squire QUALITY with a Fender logo. In some ways, Squire CV are better quality. and less. And the current MIM lines are better quality, for not much more with a proper gold fender logo.

[@DavidHBurkart]

Fender by Squier 🖐🏻 🎤

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@maximusindicusoblivious180]

Your'e right. This gets it for the funniest thing iv'e heard all day. 😄 Well done.

[@ranman58635]

Um, Philip Mcnite pointed out that he's played the same feeling necks a thousand times before on the afinity Squier. Same poplar body as well. The Classic vibe should be a lesser guitar and they're not. The name is what you're paying for.

[@benpowersguitar]

I saw Phil's video. Love his channel. That's how it felt to him. Physical measurements don't support that it's the same. It may feel similar, but that's not the same. It also reminds of my Players, as both have a modern C profiles. But they're not the same. I have 2 Affinities right here and have had Squiers for years. Including on the channel. This has a wider neck, wider nut, wider string spacing, MIM electronics & tuners. The Poplar and Laurel is why it's the price it is, knowing it leaves room to "update" it later. Everyone knows this is $100 too high and testing the field. They're a business. I think they saw a $ gap between the CV & Player line they filled it. Without threatening sales of CVs or Players.

[@ranman58635]

@benpowersguitar , in that case, get a used Fender player. I did for 250.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@ranman58635 Congrats! You got a great price. When I looked for a second one. Nothing under $400.

[@ranman58635]

@benpowersguitar , yes, I did and it's nearly new in condition. I loked for 2 year's and had to be quick to ask on it. I also had to pay 50 extra to out bid the other interested party. Now I hace something I can upgrade and not hace spent a grand on to do so. Been collecting the parts for a while too. Thanks by the way.

[@MutantGenius]

Hear me out: Ben is correct - this is not a Squier. They are not worthy of carrying the Squier name. Because I own 2 Squier Standard Series Stratocasters, I can attest to the facts that: The Squier has 22 frets. This Fender has 21. i.e.: not a Squier! The Squier has an Alder body. This fender has Poplar. i.e.: not a Squier! The Squier has a Rosewood fretboard. This Fender uses Laurel. i.e.: not a Squier! The Squier has AlNiCo pickups. This Fender has ceramics. i.e.: not a Squier! Does anyone see a pattern forming? These new Fenders fail to live up to the "Standard" that has been set by Indonesian Squier Standards - 20 years ago! So, being a downgrade of an old import guitar seems to be what the mighty Fender has been reduced to. What. a. crime.

[@benpowersguitar]

All my newer Squiers are poplar and laurel. Alnico has never been standard for Squiers. Sounds like you have some older Squiers, back when full size bodies were common too. Those were great. Anyhow, mine are all 4 from 2023 and 2024. No alder, No rosewood, only the CV is AlNiCo.

[@bobbywilson-pq1yu]

I'm flabbergasted

[@benpowersguitar]

​@ Thanks for watching.

[@KevinHGoDawgs]

I have the Player 2 Tele and HSS Strat. The necks on them are very good. My Strat is Maple, Tele is Rosewood. The tuners are 18:1 ratio, and stay in tune rock solid. If you want the Fender locking tuners, the P2 tuners are double pinned, just like the MIM standards. You can easily change them out. Drop in replacement. And the Alnico 5’s sound pretty good. No need to change them, unless you’re simply looking for a different sound. I bought both of mine on sale, for $649 each, from Guitar Center. They’re completely gig worthy and play great. I would take them any day for just a little more money (on sale), than these new Standards…

[@benpowersguitar]

Yeah, a Player or Player II on sale or used is great choice. Have both, love both. I do wish they had the wider nut and string spacing this one has, but no biggie. I play several very different strats. Though I would like to see this and the Player line be about $100 less new. Thanks for watching.

[@KevinHGoDawgs]

@@benpowersguitar They ALL need to be less than they are, lol! All us Fender owners are paying that extra charge, for the Decal 🤣. But I’m hooked on Fender. They’ve got me…

[@benpowersguitar]

@@KevinHGoDawgs 🤣🤣

[@djhoneylove5710]

Thank you for this clarification. I will buy one second hand from the parents of the kid who wanted a Charvel.

[@benpowersguitar]

Ha ha. When these hit the used market at $350 I will be curious to see what happens. If they're around long enough.

[@DunsysGuitarWorld]

That's a great point Ben, for the $500 price range it does become is it good for you? There's so much choice that it's about findling what suits the player best. Plenty of specs to confirm that this is not a Squier.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks man. I hope you're having a good week.

[@jltrem]

I have two Affinitys.I've played a number of them. The necks are different on them. So I don't get the necks feel like Affinitys argument.

[@SBsoton]

Are these Fendonesian guitars released so they can put up the prices of the Mexican and USA guitars?

[@benpowersguitar]

Ha ha. I think I like Squinder better, but Fendonesian is pretty funny too. Honestly, they're a business. I think they saw a $ gap between the CV & Player line and knew if they filled it, there were people who would buy it.

[@ThePonDePon]

Mexican Fenders have gone up in price and might possibly go even more with upcoming tariffs. This was a very smart decision by fender to keep the fender name at a lower price.

[@brucemcqueen5395]

@@benpowersguitar I totally agree. It's all about the money.

[@michaelross1339]

Fender by Squier.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@TheBbtlegit]

Its a Squire man. Stop fooling yourself.

[@benpowersguitar]

You obviously didn't watch the video. This guitar has something only a higher dollar Fender has. Wider neck and string spacing. Not even the Players have it. There is more, but you'll have to watch. Make no mistake, this is just filling a price gap between the CV and Player line.

[@DavidHBurkart]

Plus 21 vs. 22 frets screams Squier

[@benpowersguitar]

@@DavidHBurkart Full width neck, nut & spacing screams not Squier or even Player.

[@kkrsnn5632]

​@@DavidHBurkartyour knowledge of necks is really impressive

[@markmullins2756]

I had those same tuners on my 88 fender American standard strat. I’m tellin you it’s made in Indonesia it’s gonna be way better than most strats being made. I’m in

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@jaymelynnmcintyre8574]

Same

[@jst601]

Fender has realized their Standard Series, which evolved into the Player Series, was indeed a " standard" from which they shouldn't have deviated. This is merely bringing back what once was. Simple. Older players remember being able to score a MIM Standard Strat/Tele around the $500 price point for many years. It's a vicious cycle for corporate bean counters to always crave profits; this is the result. I remember comparing a new Player Strat to a new Standard Strat. Side by side. The biggest difference was the new Alnico pups vs the magnetic pups. Alnicos were brighter, thinner sounding. Magnetic were more mid-focused, fuller sounding. It's a big difference & a personal preference. Owning both would give you 2 distinctive classic Strat tones.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@steved2870]

Lost me when I saw the shirt 😂 if willingly walking around as a fender billboard was never going to say anything other than I love Fender. Good for you mate but it ain’t worth $599 much better options that are not fenders for the money. This is never going to be sought after there will be millions of them unplayed everywhere.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@rustedElch]

This is probably me talking out of my ass but it feels like we're seeing Fender test the waters and financial benefit of moving production out of Mexico and to Indonesia.

[@benpowersguitar]

Maybe, time will tell. I think they are testing the price range to see what they have to do to fill it.

[@1man1guitarletsgo]

With its black logo, everyone will know it's a Squender (a name I've just made up!).

[@benpowersguitar]

Oh that's funny. I like that one. Seriously, sat here for a good 15 seconds before I could type.🤣

[@1man1guitarletsgo]

@@benpowersguitar Glad you liked it!

[@BessieBopOrBach]

Nobody is saying this is literally a rebadged existing Squier. The dimensions and routs are set by CNC files sent from Fender. What we are saying is they MIGHT AS WELL BE Squiers.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@MaxBeatsGpoM]

Japanese made guitars are far superior than Fender and Gibson. Only americans think different :D

[@benpowersguitar]

I have stated many times, including in the review of this guitar, country doesn't matter. I have 41 guitars right now. From all over the world. I have had good and bad from everywhere. No, MIJ doesn't guarantee quality either. I personally have had one bad and 5 or 6 good ones from Japan. So I am a big fan of their guitars. Still want to play it first.

[@modelsandtrains7915]

For the price point they could have given an alder body (even the low end Yamaha Pacifica 112j is Alder… or even stainless steal frets? And even alnico pickups like the squier cv. Or even offer a push pull controls.

[@chrisayres5050]

The funniest thing is in the UK the Yamaha is only like £200 so yeah why would i pay 400 more for a Squier plus model ?

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@peterwilson8039]

I think the point here was to make a very generic guitar. I think that’s why they called it a “standard”. I do agree about the alder body. I’m open minded about the pickups. Being ceramic doesn’t necessarily imply that they are substandard. Of course it doesn’t guarantee that they aren’t - but it makes no sense to me that Fender wouldn’t have put good sounding pickups in this guitar. The good thing is they didn’t go down the faux-vintage path of the Classic Vibe line. It’s not something that I value.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@peterwilson8039 Well said. Thanks for watching.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@peterwilson8039 Also...Honestly, they're a business. I think they saw a $ gap between the CV & Player line and knew if they filled it, there were people who would buy it. Sure they could add more without really impacting the price, but that's almost always true.

[@barbmelle3136]

I am glad you like it. The color is great. Parts don't lie? I have already seen one opened up. Under that pickguard looks the same as the pickguard and parts I took off my Squier. The cheap selector switch, cheap pots, (even if they are bigger, they are still the cheap ones, I buy bags of alpha pots for $1.70 each retail, CTS does not even make any for that price point.) It even has the flimsy cord jack, the one people pay me to replace with a quality Switchcraft jack. The pickups with the magnets glued to the bottom, etc. I am not there to feel the neck, so that is your call. 1mm wider string spacing is just a measurement programmed into the equipment, not quality.. I buy those saddles as replacements, they are the same price per bag for either string spacing. Routing is just a program, not a quality. I have a Squier Classic Vibe that the neck feels every bit as good as my Fender FRS guitar. I look at everything from a manufacturing point of view. I am one of the people unwilling to pay a couple hundred extra for a different name on a decal. Thanks for your video, I usually like to hear things played, because so many different players are interesting.

[@benpowersguitar]

Watch Phil McKnights video, and he doesn't like it. But he clearly shows you full size alpha pots and a mechanical switch, unlike the tele. Even he says it's the old MIM assembly. The only Squier to have full size pots and a mechanical switch is the CV, and that is only recent years. They had dimes and PCB to start. I have my CV '60s right here. It's better than my other Squiers. But not my Fenders. As for Fenders, I have the Vintera II and AVII '61. I also have an original 1976, Ultra II, Clapton sig, Player Plus, Player 1 & 2 and Squiers 2023 & 2024 Affinities, a Sonic and older Bullet. But hey, I always say buy what you like, and don't worry about it. Thanks for watching.

[@maximusindicusoblivious180]

@@benpowersguitar Man, that's a nice collection. I have an American Standard (2002) and a Squier Affinity (2016) and about to cry over buying a $300.00 pedal.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@maximusindicusoblivious180 Thanks. Those are 2 good ones you have yourself. That pedal's pricey, nothing wrong with feeling that sting. To be fair, I used the bit of money my mom left me last year, to select certain guitars to review over a 2 year period and leave enough to cover 3 or 4 surprise models, like this. I didn't know it was coming. Trying to do as many videos as I can while I have such a selection on hand. I will need to sell some off over the next year.

[@TheGwenfroBluesman]

4 piece poplar body, Indian laurel fingerboard, cheap ceramic pickups, chrome bridge. Trem block thickness? I don't think Fender can justify charging 599 for this. There are far better options out there for 600 dollars. I like your explanation and rationale though, it's not a Squier but I'd buy a Squier before one of these. All the best.

[@JGAbstract]

I have been looking for people to get them and take em apart and compare. Imo they should lower the player series pricing if they are feeling pressure from $599 competition.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@christopheraaron8299]

I spent about the same amount of money as this guitar buying new Fender genuine made in Mexico parts (Sunburst alder body with vintage bridge routing, Player neck with pao ferro fretboard, Fender vintage bridge, locking tuners, Fender loaded pickguard) and built a much finer instrument than the new Standard. I guess that's the benefit of knowing how to assemble a Strat. 🤷‍♂

[@benpowersguitar]

For $800 I build a strat that is basically a copy of my $2200 AVII '61, minus the nitro. Being able do it yourself makes a difference. Seems like it's not as popular as it used to be.

[@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow]

@@benpowersguitar ure right it's a nice guitar for the price point.. Fender's are generally expensive in that 900 dollar entries & above my pay grade.. it's true for a few 100's more we can buy a higher end model but only if it's on sale on the Fender website.. this model is a good entry model..

[@benpowersguitar]

@@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow I do think they could drop the price $50-$100, but this leaves room for them to add things to the line, like rosewood maybe. Thanks for watching.

[@Mr.PhatsVarietyVibesShow]

@@benpowersguitar i have a few fender acoustics in the 450 Dollar 500 dollar price range which are solid so yeah, it can be done.. they could sell this for like within that range . 450- 500 range would be a good deal

[@henrymrowicki7004]

I may grab one when they eventually go on sale, but for a little more money I'd get the MIM.

[@benpowersguitar]

Yeah, they are a good $75-$100 too high to start. I still think a used Player series or older MIM is the best deal out there.

[@ThePonDePon]

It's a lower priced instrument that will definitely be cheaper when found on sale or used, I've already gotten reverb offers for $533 new day one, they look great, the specs are great. I'm glad someone finally gave them their due respect.

[@fawkesandhound]

Okay, it’s a Firefly then.

[@benpowersguitar]

I have them too, it's definitely not. They use rosewood.🤣

[@Anjohl]

It's absolutely a Squier. Their second lowest tier prodictoon Squier. If it's a Fender, why doesn't it say "Original Contour Body", and why doesn't it use the Fender Stratocaster body jig?

[@benpowersguitar]

Original Contour isn't on the American Ultra II, Player Plus nor the Player I/II models. So that's no argument. As for the jig. I would have to check. I know there have been contour depth changes and special models over the years. I said in the review they might have pulled the body from the same pile, and just routed it different inside, as the cavity is different. I also said I doubted they used existing Squier bodies, as the cavities and trem holes don't match, and would have been faster to route a new body. Thanks for watching.

[@juanpfortunato]

Tuners and Bridge are made by Ping (china) exactly the same as Fender Mex / Fender Lite Ash Korea and Some made in USA Fender ... i think the quality in general of this new Fender is the same (maybe better) as the old "standard mex" from the 90' / 2010 ... same Poplar body , ceramic pickups and ping hardware , for the price i really think is a good option because you are buying something NEW NOT USE , the next year sure you can pickup some of this use condition for 400 bucks or less

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@dcamnc1]

I have a new standard too. It is quite a bit different than the squires imo. I have sonics, affinities, and classic vibes for comparison.

[@rhamlyn100]

Dude, the pickups are ceramic. They're a downgrade from Classic Vibe Squiers. The tuners are downgrades from Classic Vibe Squiers. Come on, now. It wouldn't even be a top of the line Squier, never mind a Fender.

[@benpowersguitar]

These are the MIM Fender tuners, and appear to be the Fender MIM ceramic pups, alpha pots and mechanical switch. Even if they weren't, my CV tuners aren't as smooth as these, and I love split shaft, I have several high end guitars with them. Yes, CV got Fender Designed AlNiCo pups, as it's a special series. This neck is a little wider and the finish is killer on this one in comparison. I have 2 Affinities, CV '60s, Sonic, Player 1, 2 & Plus and more sitting right here. Done videos on all of them. I love the Affinities and especially the CV. This plays substantially better than any of my Squiers. But that's just how it feels when I play it. I think it's $100 too high for not having rosewood and expect changes. Hey, but to each there own. Thanks for watching.

[@rhamlyn100]

@@benpowersguitar Fender replaced MIM ceramic pups with Alnico years ago, and it was a definite upgrade. I agree about the neck, and I guess I'll reserve judgement on the tuners. My main beef if with the pups. As I say, Fender's Mexican line upgraded to Alnico several years ago, and so did upper-bracket Squiers. Thanks for your response though: much appreciated.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@rhamlyn100 I would love for this model to get Alnico and rosewood. Yeah, the Players getting Alnico was a great upgrade for MIM. Though I changed them on my Player II like a week after I bought it. Have a good weekend.

[@donmunson4802]

I'm not part of the Fender/Squier discussion. I'm just hoping I can sit down with one of these and get a sense of how much effort was put into fine details, fretwork and finishing. My only MIM Strat had ceramic pickups, and they were probably the best feature on the guitar. Thanks for taking less than a half hour to explain things.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching. I hope you get to play one soon.

[@carpathus]

I'm curious to see how this plays out. The use of laurel fretboards is particularly interesting.I don't recall ever seeing them on a guitar with a Fender logo before. Now that it's happening, will it elevate the status of Squier guitars since they use laurel, or will it diminish the perceived value of these Fender guitars? I'm also eager to see how well the plain black spaghetti logo will be received.

[@benpowersguitar]

I have to say, I am curious about that myself. Thank for the support.

[@I.am_Groot]

For sure this move will strengthen the value for used Classic Vibes and MIM guitars. It might even help the Player 2 stuff hold resale value if buyers look that way instead of a new Standard. As for rosewood I find that much more a talking point that anything that would affect my purchase decision and I doubt buyers would fork over $50+ for rosewood if there was an upgrade option

[@benpowersguitar]

@@I.am_Groot I really think they will have to switch to rosewood as they move forward, just like the Player had to with Pau Ferro.

[@juls7724]

That's ok. Well for me it doesn't matter if it says fender or Squier on the headstock.... CV are great too...just a metter of taste.

[@jordibluesman]

Interesting video, nice guitar!

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks buddy.

[@michaelroberts1904]

I think Fender misses a great opportunity here with this guitar. They should have put alnico pickups for sure. I mean ceramic pickups like the affinity, come on. The sunburst and transparent finishes don’t look as good as the squires. The neck dimensions and nut width ok. I think $600 is too much. Maybe $500. But we’ll wait and see how people respond to buying this one.

[@benpowersguitar]

I would agree, and expect some changes as it moves forward. Since they went contract, just like the Japan and Mexico facilities when they started, and went with poplar and laurel, Alnico pups seems like it was a no brainer. Fender had an issue with some of the MIM bursts in early 2000's for some reason, kind expect that not to be an issue nowadays. Definitely maxes out at $500 in my mind. Thanks for watching.

[@soulagent79]

If this model lasts, they'll probably upgrade it a bit each year. Actually it is very similiar to the older Mexican strats they made in the 90s and early 2000s, which also had poplar bodies, cheap electronics and ceramic pickups.

[@benpowersguitar]

The full size alpha pots and mechanical switch are fine. I am sure many people want Alnico pups. Yeah, I would think they would make changes if they keep the line.

[@I.am_Groot]

I think the pickups sound solid and my '96 MIM still has the ceramics because it just sings on leads when you overdrive them. Maybe these will be great players 30 years from now like my Standard but they won't hold value like the MIM line has over the years. Its nice that it has decent electronics but at $600 they really had no choice. I think its $100 too expensive but agree they likely started off basic to test the market.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@I.am_Groot I remember when people realized how good the MIM's were. Went from $200 used to $450+ in a flash. I still love them. Had white, always wanted the wine red (I think that's the name).

[@I.am_Groot]

@@benpowersguitar That wine red is sweet. I got mine as they were gaining value for $225 because its been well played. Holds tune better than any strat I have spent time with. My San Dimas is MIM under Fender and its a great player with amazing tone. I get why MIM isn't affordable right now to produce just hate that had to happen like this

[@MutantGenius]

These new Fenders put out a vibe (no pun intended) of being something that should be called... a Fender Affinity, maybe?

[@benpowersguitar]

Someone said "Squender". Made me laugh so much I stopped typing for a good 15 seconds.

[@mancub1589]

I’m waiting for the KZbinr to say nice things about this guitar. Then I’ll look into what commission is offered. Yeah, just waiting.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@robertsguitarsandgear]

I appreciate you and your channel, but the argument is not that it is part interchangeable with Squier, but is it better? With the Classic Vibe that is not clear at all.

[@benpowersguitar]

I have had several people flat out say it's a Squier with a Fender logo. Is it better is for each person to decide. I personally like my Player II better than my American Ultra II. For me, it's better. As for this guitar. I like it a lot better than my CV '60s. The wider neck/nut width and string spacing make it better to me. The tuners are smoother. The neck feels better to me in every way. I really recommend trying one in your local store. See what you think. Thanks for watching.

[@robertsguitarsandgear]

@@benpowersguitar I will check one out for sure for my modest channel, thanks.

[@bluwng]

People say it’s an Affinity, Affinity has a thinner body. Thanks for sharing but evidently some people already made up their mind and are too dull to believe evidence.

[@chrisayres5050]

Same woods are used though Poplar body and Indian Laurel fretboard not cool for 600 bucks

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for the support. I hope you're having a great week.

[@jltrem]

That depends on the Affinity. I have an Affinity from 1997. Has a full sized body. I think they started slimming them down in '99 or 2000.

[@I.am_Groot]

@@chrisayres5050 That's it right there. For $600 it just doesn't add up. The buyer is being asked to accept the Indo origin which isn't awful but its not an upgrade. Same with the woods. Not awful but are they $600 level? I say no. Add in that plain logo and its a big ask at the price point for what we were getting in the MIM years

[@chrisayres5050]

@@jltrem True 👍

[@JeffBristow]

Wider neck. Isn't that common on cheaper guitars? No bone nut at that price? No stainless steel saddles? This doesn't look like a good deal.

[@benpowersguitar]

No, My American Ultra II also has the wider nut etc. Most new Fenders don't have bone, including my American Ultra II and the whole Player line. Stainless saddles would ne nice, but they used a decent 2nd choice, but would like stainless. This isn't a deal at this price. It's why I said I think it's $100 too high. Thanks for watching.

[@JeffBristow]

@ More reasons to look at competitors over Fender. High price tag and lower-end components even on the Player line. Fender is moving the wrong direction with quality and price.

[@pepeguitarshop]

Maybe in a few years I would get a used one, just out of curiosity, but I would never pay more than 400 for this guitar, it needs a new set of pickups and I don't like the wood they have chosen. Thanks for the video and Greetings from Chile bro.

[@benpowersguitar]

Hey, Greetings. Thanks for watching.

[@I.am_Groot]

Its a Squender. Basic and plain Indo made at a Fender price point. Some of the sunburst I have seen are fugly 4 piece bodies and I have seen much better looking grain on entry level Squiers. I have a sweet spot MIM strat and a couple of Indo guitars so its not about any of that for me. At $600 there are just way too many options for less. What it isn't is a legit Fender. The market will not support these very well

[@benpowersguitar]

Squender is seriously funny.

[@I.am_Groot]

@@benpowersguitar I stole it but it fits lol

[@benpowersguitar]

@@I.am_Groot 👍

[@renehernandez881]

It is an upgraded Squier

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@thomaswyatt199]

I just don't see a market for these I much rather pay the extra $200 for a player II.

[@benpowersguitar]

I have to believe they're going after the people who just can't afford that. I imagine these go on sale for $500 and do well.

[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

Objectively speaking, what's different between this and a Squire?

[@benpowersguitar]

As shown in the video, every part is different. The wider neck, nut & string spacing is something you only get on higher end Fenders. Squier & Player Series don't have that.

[@ByGraceThroughFaith777]

@benpowersguitar I understand, but I have an Indonesian Bullet that has a 42mm nut too. It says Backed by Fender, Crafted in Indonesia. Aren't these new Fenders the same guitars quality wise as the spec'd out Squires? I believe they are. So if they want to charge 200 more for a logo and rebranding, that's fine, but they aren't any different than the top Squires. They know some people will pay that premium. The tooling for a thicker poplar body is just a setting in the CNC machine, the same goes for the metal parts. They can tweak the design and the packaging a bit and slap the fender logo and nobody would know that they bought the same quality guitar as a 200 cheaper Squire that doesn't say Fender. In my opinion, the move is to replace the Vibes for these Standards and sell more guitars that say Fender on them, and keep the 250 affinity series as the top Squier, because people were adopting the highend Squiers as amazing value guitars that they are, and skipping the player series entirely. It's a sleek move, but for now, at least for me, there's no reason to pay more for the same.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@ByGraceThroughFaith777 The nut width is wider on this than your Affinity. You have 1.650. These, like higher end Fenders, have 1.685. Which allows for the wider string spacing. Which is why this has a new bridge, with wider saddles and a harder material. It's why the neck is also wider and has a modern C profile. The electronics are similar to the newer CV and exact to the old MIM, full size alpha pots, mechanical switch with the MIM/ceramic pups. The finish on the neck is steps above Squier. The woods may be from the same source. I don't know. I know Fender has a problem at least through the Player line with seams showing through the finish. I have assumed for a while that the issue is they're are saving money by not drying the wood as well or using a cheaper adhesive. They're a business. I think they saw a $ gap between the CV & Player line and they filled it in a way that won't hurt the CV or Player lines.

[@lexgarnier]

It’s a Squier dude.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@captainkirk70]

Absolutely an Affinity with a Fender name. Garbage. And brilliant because the profit margin is huge. Same factory, same woods, same pickups.

[@captainkirk70]

Far less quality than a CV.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@CitizenSoldier500]

it's not a squier, it's lesser than a squier in every way

[@benpowersguitar]

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[@judyfriedsam457]

Check out Phil McKnight's deep dive. At least the classic vibes have alnico PUs... The majority of reviews are not positive. What you're paying for is strictly the name on the headstock. Even the sub $200 Harley Benton ST62s have Roswell PUs, and caramelized roasted maple neck . For $500 , $100 less than this , I'll keep and love on my PRS SE CE 24 satin anyday. Better electronics, and a rosewood fingerboard plus a really nice gig bag. What was Fender thinking ? Well ....they weren't ! Save your money....

[@benpowersguitar]

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[@RufusTurner-g7i]

Mine came in p*** poor. My neck wasnt even finished and thats squier's deal on their low ehd guitars.

[@benpowersguitar]

Wow, that sucks. The finish on these is great. I would exchange it.

[@greenwave792]

It’s a squire….

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@markcaserta1367]

Sorry but I will play a Squier Classic Vibe. Aside from the Fender Player series, Fender is now approaching boutique prices. Most of the world can't afford Fender prices.

[@ronpatterson6420]

I'm not sure about the body thickness of the cv but I do know fender has their own thing going when it comes to the thickness of the body.

[@ThePonDePon]

Cv bodies are full thickness

[@brianschwartz5673]

Cheap 5 way switch, ceramic pickups, IR fretboard, it's a Squier. I love Squires so not a negative, but its not a Fender, so it is a Squier with a Fender logo, hey i dont care, i love my Squires, but lets keep everything in perspective, buy it if you want, but stop trying to justify it. A Squier CV is a better buy. Love ya, Bye

[@benpowersguitar]

First sentence shows you didn't watch the vid. Mechanical switch, same as Player series, though not in the tele for some reason. Ceramic pups and alpha pots were in the MIM standard. Fender tuners from the MIM. Full width nut, neck and string spacing that only high end and vintage Fenders have. Player doesn't have it. But absolutely, buy what you like. I still say a used Player is about the best deal going.

[@brucerichard2904]

I'm impressed by all the Squier experts that keep spelling it Squire. 😅

[@derPaul76]

😂Made my day

[@jjerkamillo]

People who already hate Fender are absolutely up in arms about this. This doesn't take away anything from the budget clone import market, if some 17yo kid wants to buy a Fender branded instrument for $600 this doesn't negatively affect anyone at all. I could see a justified freakout if Fender said they're discontinuing the Squier CV line in favor of this, but that's currently not the reality of things and it's goofy to get upset about something that hasn't happened 😂

[@benpowersguitar]

Well said. Honestly, they're a business. I think they saw a $ gap between the CV & Player line and knew if they filled it, there were people who would buy it.

[@jjerkamillo]

​@@benpowersguitar 100%! The online Fender haters want to think this is some evil master plan, the truth is they just want a more budget friendly option to be available for people looking to upgrade from a Harley Benton. All the online drama will not be reflected in stores, these will sell well regardless of what the trolls say lol

[@HaraldMix-E-Gitarren-Review]

​@@jjerkamillo We will see. I believe these Fenders will arrive at €499 in no time, the sale will take place at less than €449 or $.

[@CitizenSoldier500]

no thanks fender

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@UHOH860]

It's a nice guitar but you're better off getting squier debut with all aftermarket upgraded parts and your still sub 400.

[@benpowersguitar]

It's priced too high to not have rosewood. I had the Debut. You would have to replace everything, including the neck to stand a chance. The hardware on this is significantly better. I still say by a used Player or old MIM for now.

[@mr1bienvenu1]

It's not as good as a Classic Vide 😮

[@benpowersguitar]

I personally like this better, except the pups. But that's the great thing about guitars. Crazy number of options out there. No one has to like the same ones. I have had 2 CV's, great guitars for the money if you like their look and feel. Still have one. These will either fill a niche or they won't. If nothing else, we got the name Squender of it.

[@ccjmusic]

Do the strings sit over the pole pieces more centrally than on a Squier? If not then the pickups must also be sized for the Fender (F spacing? I can't remember the term now)

[@benpowersguitar]

They sit nice and center.

[@ccjmusic]

@@benpowersguitar I just noticed I said that the wrong way round. Glad they are centered.

[@allenmichaud1605]

500 bucks max. 50 bucks more than classic vibe. And classic vibe should only be 400 bucks. Its just not 320 better than my tele deluxe, which feels excellent and rips. Thanks for the informitive video. Made in japan fender's are excellent but costly. I would snag a mij fender for 600 in a second if i wasnt a broke stay at home dad for my autistic boy. Later fella's

[@benpowersguitar]

That would be perfect pricing on both in my opinion. I think people also forget, you are paying $50 - $100 for the name & warranty, with all big guitar companies. You can do a part by part breakdown from model to model and find there's always some money that you're going, where did it go. I did it with all the current Fender line. Maybe I should do a video on that. Hey, I played the Tele Dlx. You aren't wrong, that thing rips. You guys have a good weekend. Thanks for watching.

[@maximusindicusoblivious180]

You could play a twig and a piece of yarn but being a great Dad to your boy is the real prize. Best wishes.

[@allenmichaud1605]

@maximusindicusoblivious180 i let my boy play with my entire rig. He has his own little bluey acoustic. Its a blast. He tends to be aggressive with knobs. The look on his face when my tele is on his lap brings tears. Thanks

[@maximusindicusoblivious180]

@@allenmichaud1605 Your'e welcome. Way cool! Blessings brother and give him a hug for me and all those around who know what love and devotion is.🎸

[@mde9395]

It's a squier

[@benpowersguitar]

Please show me a Squier, or even Fender under $1100 that has the wider neck, nut and string spacing this has. Had to make it for this model. You didn't watch the video. Literally are no Squier parts on this guitar. Even the body has a different routing.

[@mde9395]

Same factory. Same quality materials as an Affinity. Same quality workmanship as a lower end Squier. Couple mm of neck carve difference and a cheap black branding logo. Its a squier; and not a good one

[@benpowersguitar]

@@mde9395 One factory can many many level of guitars. We have seen that for decades. PRS SE Silver Sky is made in Indonesia. These electronics & hardware are not from Squier. Same thing we had on the MIM in early 2000's. The trem is new for this guitar. Wider spaced, full size block with chrome steel saddles. Not stainless, but still a step up from Squier. The finish on the neck is steps above Squier. As is the wider nut, neck and string spacing. It might be about $100 higher than it should be, but you're wrong when you say it's Squier. I thank you for watching.

[@mde9395]

@@benpowersguitar feedback after playing a couple: $479. I subbed, cheers

[@93greenstrat]

Thank you for making this video. In short, this Indonesian Fender Standard picks up from where the old Mexican Standard left off. Given time, I'm fairly certain that Fender will make some incremental improvements to just like they did with the MIM's.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching. I am hoping that's exactly what happens.

[@WizDawg]

It’s not worth the price

[@benpowersguitar]

No, they have it to bring it down and add more value. Thanks for watching.

[@antoniovasconcelos273]

I like poplar and laurel. She is a nice guitar. I tried one and she played nice.

[@benpowersguitar]

I honestly wish it had rosewood though. Along with about $100 cheaper price tag. However, I love the way mine plays. Thanks for watching.

[@antoniovasconcelos273]

@@benpowersguitar I agree

[@Timothystutts]

You’re comparing an affinity and sonic /about comparing it to a CV/or 40th anniversary strat????

[@benpowersguitar]

I did measure it against my 2023 CV '60s as well as the 2 Affinities. It's why I said this should be no higher than $500. The neck on this, and maybe I just got really good one, it feels so much better in every way. I have played it for hours. The guitar just feels really good. Thanks for watching.

[@ericnrebeccawilliams2906]

Your right squires only cost half as much.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@MelaniCholie]

Good day Ben, have a lovely weekend in music! I now have guitar teacher but for acoustic....lets see if the donkey can walk on ice, lol

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks Melani. That is awesome. I hope you really enjoy the lessons.

[@chrischristensen3814]

$599.99 is definitely a Fender Standard Strat. I don't ever want to pay that much for a Squire.

[@benpowersguitar]

It's still $100 too high. Thanks for watching.

[@bryancollins6796]

It's actually a tariffs guitar. Once tariffs bump up Mex Strats 25%, it'll make pricing sense. It's a contract guitar made by Cor-tek, not Fender.

[@benpowersguitar]

You're not the first to bring that up. We'll see what happens.

[@smilevrsac]

Are there any in the dollar stores yet?

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@jsdhesmith2011]

Bottom line is this! How bad do you want to see fender on the headstock but you don’t have money? This was Fenders answer. There are a lot more guitars out there that have better bang for the buck that are made overseas, just because it was made overseas, doesn’t make a bit a difference. The problem is fender ask way too much money for what they offer.

[@benpowersguitar]

Sounds about right. Honestly, they're a business. I think they saw a $ gap between the CV & Player line and filled it without putting the Player line sales at risk.

[@zambot3325]

All the haters can’t afford a guitar anyway.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@jasonkrupp2326]

Is the body of the new standard strat covered in a veneer? My Affinity is.

[@benpowersguitar]

Nope. Interesting, is it a flame or quilt top Squier?

[@jasonkrupp2326]

@@benpowersguitar no, just a regular sunburst from 2021, I think. Bought it used.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@jasonkrupp2326 Wonder if it's to get better looking grain.

[@jasonkrupp2326]

@@benpowersguitar to hide the seams. When I took off the pickguard to swap pickups there were at least 4 pieces of wood glued together between the veneers, and that's only what's visible.

[@jnbernard]

The Tele has the cheapo switch

[@benpowersguitar]

Not sure why they did that on the Tele. I hope we get some changes if they keep the line.

[@Jeremya74]

But is it a squire?

[@benpowersguitar]

Than you for watching.

[@nieko3038]

Well there is a lot of talk about these. From videos I have seen there is room for improvement at this price point. Can’t really make a complete judgement without playing it. Lot of competition around these days.

[@benpowersguitar]

I personally think there is room for improvement or a price drop on their entire line. It's a business though, and I understand that as well.

[@nieko3038]

@ I assume the strato has that pcb switch too. I don’t understand why they put those in. My latest China Squier has a better switch. Paid 275 for that. I am sure Fender will evaluate sales. Would be interesting to see how these compare with Squiers on used market (price wise) I thought the Tele sounded good. I have a MIJ with ceramic pickups. Nothing wrong with the sound of that guitar either.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@nieko3038 No it doesn't. It has a mechanical switch & full size alpha pots. I don't way the tele got a pcb. Makes no sense.

[@nieko3038]

@ Ok. Strange. Well that takes away my main point on this one.

[@davorsixstrings1642]

I just think Fender shouldn't put their logo on Indonesian made guitars. The price is lower simply because of labor cost, seems that the quality is nowhere near the Mexican ones. It's not a Squier, sure it ain't a Fender either. The should've just reduced the price on the Mexican Player series. After the $500 benchmark, you can get insanely better guitars than that one. People pay for the logo.

[@benpowersguitar]

It's definitely too expensive. Someone in the comments said to call it a Squender. Made me laugh for like 15 seconds. Thanks for watching.

[@bobbywilson-pq1yu]

I don't believe you. You need more people ! 😎

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@Wilco1972]

I have a theory, and I could be full of it, but being that Fender has promoted their Indonesian plant to full fledged Fender production. Do you think that this could be Fender preparing to move all Squier production to China?

[@benpowersguitar]

There have been several points around things like that some people are speculating about. Honestly, they're a business. I think they saw a $ gap between the CV & Player line and knew if they filled it, there were people who would buy it.

[@doomwreckertelevision3527]

@@benpowersguitar The all black logo like on a bullet squier is what throws me off. Put a real fender logo on it or dont make it. A REAL strat with the REAL logo is 450 used right now, even the practically new ones, like last years model with the sticker and all the plastic on it... 450... You gotta be a sick puppy to get this indonesian one. I think they are trying to minimize the effect a terrif might have on mexico. I wish they would just make it exactly like the mexican fenders.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@doomwreckertelevision3527 Yeah, I would have thought at least silver, black surprised me. Though in person, on this color with the dark fretboard, I kind of like it.

[@Wilco1972]

@ In one NAMM video a guy was talking to a Fender rep and he said that Fender has been working on this line for two years. I don't think the possibility of tariffs played a part in this. I kinda think Fender wants to create a ladder a guitarist can climb of Fender equip. You get tired of your Squier, you can step up to the next rung to an Indonesian Fender if you can't afford MIM or MIJ, eventually working your way up to an American build. Kinda like Apple, they want to get their hooks in you and keep you buying their products. I know they're taking some hits in the comments, but I give credit to Fender, in the last year they started selling the ultra low end Squier Debuts on Amazon for $119 and now a budget Indonesian Fender for $599. While Epiphones just keep getting more and more expensive. At least they're thinking of the new/budget player.

[@benpowersguitar]

@@Wilco1972 Well put. Yeah, I think they saw a $ gap between the CV & Player line and knew if they filled it, there were people who would buy it. Just like the Debut.

[@darthsensei3838]

This is a crap guitar for 600. I see what you’re saying…but it’s a squire.

[@bluwng]

It’s not and you are dense.

[@darthsensei3838]

@ I’m actually really fit. It’s a cheap rendition of a fender. I’ve played a few of these now, and while maybe the dimensions on paper are different - it just feels like a very cheap squire. No need to get upset play what you want, but the guitars are really a bad value.

[@chrisayres5050]

Agreed its Poplar with an Indian Laurel fretboard , A real Fender should be Alder with a Rosewood neck , How is it a company like EART can make the same guitar but with a Mahogany body rosewood neck and stainless steel frets and a bone nut for only £300 ? Anyway i dont buy foreign crap , Only USA guitars are best.

[@darthsensei3838]

@ thank you! That’s my point

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@stichriddle1535]

It says fender on the headstock A Squier says Squier on the head stock There for the red one you have is obviously better because it’s says fender on the headstock

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@LRHutch]

I just read the specs on that Fender. The neck is the same as a Classic Vibe maple with laurel fingerboard. Nut width 1.68". Poly finish. Popular body the routing doesn't mean a thing. The so called Fender has better keys maybe a better bridge and maybe better pots. That's about it. I'm sure not going to spend the money on one to find out that they are no better than a classic vibe Squier. Because I have a Squier that I will match it against the American series. Yes it took a little work and mods to get it there. Mostly Fender is just another rip off company in my opinion. But everyone has there own opinions.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

This guitar must be made out of pure copium.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@oneanother1]

So these have 21 frets right, and all of the fender MIM are 22 frets right? Fender has always been mim since forever, doing made overseas just devalues their brand, even if the quality is good enough. If the standard had the same specs as the MIM standard, like wood types, finish, skunk stripe, and logo. I feel like this is just a cheap copy of the MIM standard. And they should have just made these in mexico. Thats what makes them more special, in comparison to made in oversea guitars.

[@benpowersguitar]

The Player line replaced the Standard MIM's. That's their MIM line now. They are using some of the previous Standard items on this, but gave it a wider neck, nut & string spacing. It's intentionally different and lower end than the MIM's. It's why it's cheaper. Seems like what people really want is something like the Player II at $600. Nothing wrong with that. This and the Debut seem like they are just filling a price slot, more than anything else. Maybe that's just me.

[@RZ_9]

nope, up to 2018 mexican only have 21 frets. even the american one used to have only 21 frets. also for indonesian part, ibanez and yamaha made their 1400$ guitar there, it's not about where it's made. its just u being racist as fuck.

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

I'm gonna get "Fender" etched on my Kazoo. Won't make it a real Fender but I can pretend, just like the people who buy one of these guitars. 😉

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@thewonderofyou1]

Fender standard.. Made in wherever? Gibson standard 50 or 60 made in America. Fender is junk

[@benpowersguitar]

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[@sixgunslingin]

Its a cash grab shit bird. If you like it...cool. its an embarassment. Dont know why your defending it when EVERYONE hates it...but cool.

[@benpowersguitar]

Thanks for watching.

[@MaxBeatsGpoM]

It's not Squier it's alot worse than Squier :D Classic Vibe Squier is far better guitar.

[@benpowersguitar]

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[@Bronk68]

Hard pass

[@benpowersguitar]

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