It’s Okay To Wrestle With God

In this video, Dr. Peterson explores the association between freedom, wrestling with God, and the significance of the right to free speech.
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[@James-fi6ky]

Jordan Peterson, you saved my life. I've struggled with depression for the past 3 years. Ever since I started watching your videos, I've learn what it takes to become a true man, which has given me a unique sense of purpose and meaning in my otherwise empty life.

[@definitelynotthequestion5359]

You are not alone. Keep fighting.

[@johnpalmer8873]

Mod ash can guide us to our divine masculine.

[@James-fi6ky]

@@johnpalmer8873 I ❤seed oil!!!

[@randywise5241]

Once you are free, you must struggle through the desert to get to the promise land.

[@JUDALIONNN]

By following the highest good. Which is God’s leadership. 😇 Now it has come to an era of following Holy Spirit through Jesus.

[@joseph8468]

Awesome!

[@HasanUnknown]

Islam is a religion who makes us to Believe in Jesus, We Muslims 100% Believes in Jesus, We Muslims Believes that Jesus is the Christ, We Muslims Believes that Jesus will Come Again to this World, Jesus did Miracles by the Permission of Allah, Jesus himself Never said “Im God” also Never he said anyone to “Worship Me” Jesus was Just a Prophet and Messenger Of Allah Only to Guide The People of Israel, ----------------------- *Jesus Denies Being God* | Read ⬇️ ----------------------- "My Father is greater than me." [John 14:28] “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to My God and your God.” [John 20:17] “Jesus said: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” [Mark 12:29] “Jesus, Fell with his face to the ground and Prayed.” [Matthew 26:39] “Jesus said, “My teaching is not my own, It comes from the one who has sent me.” [John 7:16] “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who has sent me." [John 5:30] “The crowd answered, This is Jesus, the Prophet.” [Matthew 21:10-11] --------------------- *The Coming Of Prophet Muhammad In Bible* --------------------- “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When he the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come, He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.” [John 16:12-14] --------------------- *Allah Clears About Jesus* --------------------- [Quran:- 5:72]:- “Jesus has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." [Quran:- 19:30]:- “Jesus has said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet.” [Quran:- 4:171]:- “Christ Jesus the son of Mary was no more than a messenger of Allah, So believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: ---------------------

[@kimberlymoxley104]

Great way to reason that!

[@ZayaFTW]

Out from tyranny, and, in to the desert, @jordanpeterson; from insecurity to responsibility!!!!!

[@brianchapman997]

Just bought tickets to this tour today! So freaking pumped!

[@stephendiangelo4215]

Same!

[@cornerman4529]

The first thing that crossed my mind when you said 'wrestle with God' was, "at least it isn't wrestling AGAINST God, but WITH God." It' becomes a two-way thing instead. And now that I think on it, God must want us to wrestle with Him at times. kind of like when you are having a debate with someone. You are not accusing or trying to shut and trample him/she down. But an exchange of words, and ideas, and views. "I will stand upon my watch, and set me upon the tower, and will watch to see what he will say unto me, and what I shall answer when I am reproved." Habakkuk 2:1

[@milodjilodj]

Like a father playing rough with his son to make him stronger.

[@cornerman4529]

@@milodjilodj yeah, so true

[@wolfofmagdalene92]

God bless you Jordan. This really comes at a hard time for me and it involves God himself

[@bomination.]

1:05 peterson doesn't know the reason so he just projects HIS feelings onto the left "taring with the same brush" this is why the right will never understand the left because the right are emotionally defective.

[@blameese]

God loves to work through others for our own benefit. He speaks our language :)

[@rogvarley6971]

Jordan doesn’t view God as something else. Jordan views God as everything. When you refer to God as “he”, “she”, or “him”, it implies that God is seperate. As if you are here and God is over there. God is everything. Everything is within God’s kingdom, you, me, the sun, the stars, the air we breathe, good AND evil, everything. Try replacing the words “he” or “him” with the word God when you refer to God. Because God is all and nothing less.

[@laying7814]

This gentleman demonstrated humility perfectly 👌 ❤👏

[@bomination.]

1:05 peterson doesn't know the reason so he just projects HIS feelings onto the left "taring with the same brush" this is why the right will never understand the left because the right are emotionally defective.

[@cuppajoylady]

Praying for you, Jordan.

[@emilyk.5664]

We're tormented by our consciences for not living up to our moral obligations. We're wrestling with good and evil. If you're torn into pieces by questions of ethical orientation...then mere damage of that sort from which you recover - that's mercy. Consistent reorientation toward what is right. Great insights.

[@whatisanamelol]

Well said

[@bomination.]

1:05 peterson doesn't know the reason so he just projects HIS feelings onto the left "taring with the same brush" this is why the right will never understand the left because the right are emotionally defective.

[@3tonedThinker]

Thank you Jordan for all you do for humanity

[@alvareo92]

¿Jordon?

[@SaiSunday]

Jardon

[@more.art.less.war.]

Jardan

[@bomination.]

1:05 peterson doesn't know the reason so he just projects HIS feelings onto the left "taring with the same brush" this is why the right will never understand the left because the right are emotionally defective.

[@user-rs8nk4vf4k]

What did Jordan do good for humanity?

[@MentalGymnastics1980]

I plan on seeing this tour in June! Jordan is coming to Wallingford CT! JP is a personal Hero of mine!!

[@NotARussianDisinfoBot]

"Come, let us reason together, saith the Lord..." Isaiah 1:18. God wants you to ask questions. He also wants you to have faith. When you take your questions to God, He will help you find that line between what He will help you learn now, and what will require faith for you to learn properly. Nonetheless, honest struggling, questioning, even anger... God welcomes the sincere questions.

[@kevinkelly2162]

OK. I sincerely want to know how a snake can talk?

[@NotARussianDisinfoBot]

@@kevinkelly2162 Why you talking to snakes, bro? This isn't Harry Potter.

[@kevinkelly2162]

@@NotARussianDisinfoBot Harry Potter plagiarised a lot of the Bible. Then again, the Bible plagiarised the Enuma Elish so that makes it OK.

[@NotARussianDisinfoBot]

@@kevinkelly2162 Well, have fun talking to your snakes. Who am I to judge?

[@kevinkelly2162]

@@NotARussianDisinfoBot It is in the book you quoted.

[@prajeshbagchi2688]

Dr. Peterson's sartorial sense is impeccable.

[@payoade1]

What I'm receiving from this is that those who wrestle with God, as in their higher selves, can not be enslaved. If they are wrestling with God, there is no other, lesser, authority they will not challenge. In essence those who wrestle with their highest selves are the chosen.

[@dalelerette206]

It interesting that although slavery is not explicitly condemned in the Christian Scriptures, "Onesimus" appears in two New Testament epistles-in Colossians 4 and in Philemon. I. Onesimus was the slave of Philemon who had wronged him in some way or another and who then decided to flee. He met the Apostle Paul in prison in Rome, where Paul converted him to Christianity and then sent him back to his owner. But the Apostle Paul said for Philemon to accept Onesimus as a brother not a slave. Although slavery is not explicitly condemned. The Christian Scriptures certainly show a precedent for freedom from slavery.

[@mariahmunnis6315]

This must be the best Jordan Peterson commentary. I think I've said this previously after listening to his other commentaries...many times!!

[@bomination.]

1:05 peterson doesn't know the reason so he just projects HIS feelings onto the left "taring with the same brush" this is why the right will never understand the left because the right are emotionally defective.

[@user-xn9hb7pn9n]

Praise God 🙏 i had to hear this message right now 🤞,I know that God will bring me through this, I can't do it with my own strength 🙏

[@dontwanadisplaynameonutube2951]

You're stronger then you think. God Bless.

[@user-xn9hb7pn9n]

🙏🙌

[@haxelshntizle]

Get your mind right

[@Beekind799]

YEE ARE GOD

[@Beekind799]

@@onlypearls4651 READ THE CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD BOOKS 1,2 AND 3 AND THEN I WILL ASK YOU ,WHAT IS GOD TO YOU

[@ashleygatewood]

As I’m thinking about this, is this you, JP? Could this be your story here? Your journey has taken a great amount of faith and courage on your part, no? You have been faithful on many accounts. This walk is not for the faint of heart and you’ve managed it so far. God has honored you for your times of courage. He has given you insight into His word that most ministers don’t have and you haven’t taken this lightly. In this you’ve found favor with Him. He came to you in your living room decades ago as if to say, ‘Here’s a glimpse of the Promised Land I have for you. It’s unknown to you but I will be with you if you choose to follow Me.’ And what happened…you feared: ‘How can I function like this? What will people walking down the street think of me? What will come of my reputation like this?’ You saw the giants, so it was not your time. And so God withdrew His presence and for the next several decades you wandered in a desert of pure Hell. But then your time had come (Ezekiel 16.8) God is not finished with you and I believe it’s because, indeed, your heart is good and longs for Him, for agape love, for truth, for faith is the purpose of a higher calling. And so ‘He works all things together for good to them who love God and are called according to His purpose.’ (Romans 8.28) That’s you, dear Professor. And I believe that you are standing at the entrance now (though I pray you’ve entered in) but I’m worried for you (my neurotic self perhaps) - that you care more about your intellectual colleagues chiding you about faith. However, I’ve noticed how your true atheist/agnostic friends all accept you and agree that your view is viable and are pleasantly surprised by your depth of understanding. It’s the ones who aren’t open or capable of accepting different view points that cleverly put Christians down, much like Cain, in their oh-so-dismal atheistic condemnation. Why worry about these? Are they not faithless and not even your friends? Don’t let them keep you out of the Promised Land recurrently. Search within yourself and see how you might shift your being from Israel to Joshua, his report is better: “Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed: for the Lord thy God is with thee whithersoever thou goest.” (Joshua 1.9) God is never stagnant. We must ‘goest’. We will not move forward if we remain in guilt (condemnation is satanic) or doubt (wrestling continually never able to come to the understanding of Christ). The longer you wrestle, even though it may be necessary and of some good, the longer you will wander and make no progress. Jacob made no forward progress while he wrestled with God. It was the event that gave him direction and purpose, yes, but he did not advance on the outside (in the physical realm) until he had finished his wrestling on the inside (spiritual realm). Everything in the kingdom of God starts on the inside and works its way to the outside. I can see His countenance on your face and your expressions. They are far different from just five years ago. You talk about the expression of naive-to-monster and I see this somewhat, as you’ve been mistreated verbally so your expressions toughened up. But the countenance I’m referring to is from God, it’s brighter, not naive but a palpable expression that’s kind and not dark. Perhaps you understand, or will come to understand - I think you’ve mentioned it with some of your friends by saying ‘a kind soul’ or something of the like, just by their countenance. God’s light is dawning in your eyes and your expression. From the deepest depths of the heart to the brightest shining light for all to see; don’t let anyone, even yourself, steal this glory from God which will be shone through you. He is striving with you because you are His son and He loves you. Don’t test Him by striving without making progress, willfully staying in the desert because of fear, guilt or concern over the opinions of men. It will be the worst day to leave you in the heat of the desert; please, shed fear and advance out of the desert. Learn to dance with God, not strive against Him. If there is any fear in you, let it be of God, healthy and reverent and believing in His word. ‘My Spirit will not strive with men forever.” Advance. It is imperative. He will be with you. (A note: Be careful that you aren’t wrestling with demons. You went quite far into evil phenomena without the protection of the blood of Christ (what Caviezel was explaining to you), so it’s very possible you were exposed. If you find yourself growing in anger concerning Christ, it very well could be demonic. The Spirit of God can deliver and heal the mind, this is after all, the battlefield of Satan. God can and will heal you, all you need to do is ask Him to - you may need someone to pray in agreement with you. The blood of Christ cleanses all aspects of the human condition and casts out all evil. Pay attention to how this particular truth makes you feel. Are you comforted by the power of the blood of Christ, or does it make you uncomfortable and angry to think about it? If there are aspects of Jesus that irritate and ultimately anger you, or you find yourself contemptuous toward Christ, it could be demonic. Do you have anyone talking with you about these things?)

[@Unitedfruitco]

Maybe Israel “wrestles with god” is the translation of the word. The interpretation of that phrase, ‘wrestling with God’ is unending. It could mean so much! I’m glad he examines this

[@randycliff4045]

"You think with speech", great line Dr. Peterson -- this is oh so critical, and people refuse to grant the deserved value. For faith people, how often are you told not to gossip, because this is harmful and it's also often talking without thinking. This is in contrast to God creating everything by speaking it into existence. So in between is where we should operate, speech forces someone to organize their thoughts, create a pattern of words for someone to digest the thought. So you say things out loud and your spouse tells you, 'hmmm, pretty stupid'... so you try again and again, and work it through. So ultimately free speech is an environment where others can tell you you're wrong -- and maybe that's debate. So you have to be willing to "offend" someone else, as you are will become "offended". And if you haven't figured this part out, but that's pretty much Wrestling with God (except He never gets offended).

[@tiffannyranger8134]

That's a great way to put it. I will save your comment in my notes. 🥰

[@ashleygatewood]

Wrestle with God, learn to rest in God knowing that He loves you, and don't give up. Remember, He remains faithful even when we are faithless. Love never fails.

[@VoVina111]

Amen. So true that He remains faithful even when we are faithless... I think about that a lot

[@kofio.takyi-mensah2431]

Very helpful 👌 ☺️ 🙂 👏

[@baehr4308]

Love you Jordan! you are awesome!

[@VoVina111]

Wow I was JUST reading this chapter for the first time and I came across this part (Jacob wrestling with God and being renamed Israel) and I was confused about it and asked God to help me understand it deeper.. I forget about it and 1 hour later the moment I opened youtube this popped right in front of me 😂 thank You Lord 🙏 You never leave me confused

[@more.art.less.war.]

Love the suit, Dr. Peterson.

[@WheelchairOperator]

Just got my tickets to the We Who Wrestle With God tour. I can’t wait.

[@jackhackett80]

Jordan has the best suits!

[@hongolloyd8728]

He also worships at the altar of mammon.

[@coolie4christ]

I read this passage today, Jacob wrestling with the man is such a brief moment in the Bible text, but it's the largest turning point of Jacob's life when he becomes Israel

[@robertbaratheon6573]

Best intro

[@chltjsdmfhtkfwk]

Anyone link to full lecture?

[@thechildoflost3324]

The word freedom actually has close etymological ties to friendship and family.

[@JeffCaplan313]

Chutzpah is one of my favorite words.

[@desacrater221]

holy cow! very nice.

[@desacrater221]

💯

[@fullSendernopretender]

Great insight.

[@feralhamster2429]

This is deep

[@jasonschack6112]

“It’s not okay, it’s necessary!”

[@snipa3772]

love bearded JP, sage mode

[@anatomysmichael8057]

Where I can find the full lecture ?

[@davidhakadoober._1-]

Might I suggest that Jordan read the book the Lunatic, Bibliotheca Lestadia.

[@richardlongmore9301]

Free speech. I remember when we use to have that 😢

[@miriamcohen7657]

Not granted by the state, but by the Creator.

[@GunterZochbauer]

but often limited by the state. So "not forbidden by the state" would be more correct

[@stsu7005]

Anybody knows which Bach concerto played in the outro ?

[@davidlaws6119]

I noticed you will be coming to Charlotte for your, We who wrestle with God tour. I enjoy your conservative values and with a 16 year old son who is Caucasian, i want him to be prepared to speak with confidence in a society that is taught white men are the enemy. As a blue collar war veteran who is disabled, I am not necessarily the best example for my son so i purchase books from men who I find to be suitable models. I have purchased your books and he has read some and relays the text is challenging but if he takes his time, he can digest it in small pieces. When i saw the tour was coming close to our hometown, it immediately peaked my interest since he is currently reading 12 rules. Is this video moreso how the tour is and the topics of conversation? I suppose i am asking if the tour concepts would be too deep for a 16 year old to comprehend? Or, is this geared more towards professors, pastors, and seasoned conservatives? Respectfully

[@blameese]

Agency, aka free will, is an essential gift from God. If we are forced to choose Him, then it completely makes His plan null and void, and removes the need for a Savior. That's why we had to fall, that's why we have to be free and fight for freedom. That's why we wrestle, so we can choose Him. :)

[@bronsongt9788]

Wow

[@ELIASGTR]

This happens naturally when one encounters evil…

[@libertiner1380]

in europa the curch is getting still fewer members, JP could reform the curch to a moder standard

[@GunterZochbauer]

The church could reform itself and look at how Dr. Peterson does it. They might, but it will probably take 100y until we can perceive the change.

[@Nighhhts]

Just know He will win…

[@beyond7830]

Aka Israel. There's no need to worry, God is a big boy he can take it. You can never disappoint nor impress Him, He is with you and walking at your pace.

[@ADAMmusl]

Is real defeated him

[@beyond7830]

@@ADAMmusl No, he conquered Sin and Death.

[@gravitheist5431]

Not living up to your moral obligations is wrestling with god , not being the father your son needs

[@ungureanucatalin4732]

It's not ok. It's necessary.

[@sallywyatt2918]

I truly wish I believed in God. Can't imagine anything better than to do so and so envious of people that truly do believe. I live my life I shouldn't do anything that I wouldn't want done to me. And to try and make the world a little better even if for one person because I was here.

[@mycrazylife408]

you need to genuinely pray hard and ask him to reveal himself to you.

[@TGchronic]

There is a reason believe is the word. It's because no one can know for sure. Believing is a choice, it is a leap of faith. If you had proof God existed you would not believe you would know.

[@GunterZochbauer]

Believing in God is not the right way to put it in my opinion. You should accept that God exists. If you understand what God is, it's not a question of believing. God is not a being, being is God. There is no need to believe in being. Your existence is proof enough. The Bible is just the collected wisdom about how to conduct your life to get a life worth living. It's a description of what smart people observed and found to be working well. You can either try to figure it out all by yourself (one lifetime is way too short to accomplish that) or you can trust that they knew what they were talking about and adopt their ways.

[@toplobster2699]

But what does he mean by"wrestle"? and what does he mean by "God"?

[@georgegiesbrecht8224]

What does he mean by okay

[@user-vh7ks8px3s]

What does he mean by what does it mean? I mean what does that even mean?

[@GunterZochbauer]

So you think this is self-evident?

[@pirates-ship870]

you wouldn t beleve me but when i ferst see the "wrestle word i start to cry becuase its true

[@emanuellasker3650]

The Genius of Cain. A strong suggestion of our Biblical IQ is indicated by our appraisal of Cain. If we would believe anything about Adam The Namer we must first believe he was real and that he got his message out even through the misty Labyrinth of Time. Now Cain, by virtue of receiving the inculcation of the firstborn, and being the second direct (victim) of The Serpent, was naturally well positioned to understand almost everything. And this is understood by his Naming of his firstborn, Enoch. This is a vital clue to The Mystery of The Antediluvian World and it's relevance today. For, the ensuing drama of those generations revolve around that name! And even after the translation of Enoch of Jared, his inspiration led Lamech to design the second most important name among the world of men: Noah. The respective devices being oriented to young boys. But the influence of Eve's first spirit (the one before she became an indispensable heroine in the development of the inculcation of Enoch, something we may infer because the inculcation could scarcely have succeeded without such support) is being impressed mightily upon the sons of Adam in this generation, such that no detectable desire or application to apprehend Enoch can be found, unless we count The Book of Enoch, which represents a wretched attempt to divine his testimony through excessive appeal to the supernatural. But logic demands no such appeal is warranted until absolutely necessary. Then all such appeals must be examined as a group for cogency. The resulting model does not allow for The Book of Enoch. But we can appreciate the frustrated madness that insufficient rigor will bring to interpretation. And that spirit of Eve prefers satisfaction to rigor... It remains therefore for the sons of Adam to claim the birthright of their elemental formation by direct connection to The Ordered Earth, formed by the very hands of God The Almighty. P.S. Please hurry to do so because we, some of your little brothers, are getting killed out here. Recall that even mighty Adam was overpowered by Eve's unspoken, super concentrated, accusatory thrusting of the fruit to him. And try to extend your various otherwise wonderful powers to see that spirit behind the conflict in Europe. Remember that The Serpent was the most subtle of all the animals in the garden. There may not be much time... QED SEL

[@mason2800]

There is only one purpose, His ✝️

[@0ptixs]

I've found in my life that things become beautiful when they exist in the middle of things. I don't know how else to explain it. The sun exists in balance between gravity and fission. Your joy exists in between misery and happiness. It seems as if we were created by, or for, the clashing of good and evil, we wrestle with God not because we can. But because we have to

[@exxie1]

I love this. Sometimes my peers would talk to me about the belief I have, because I'm that one unconventional guy in the group who everybody thinks is a non-believer. They mistake me as a fence sitter. I always say no, I was never neutral. I only accept the duality of my being as both good and evil. I am aware that I am capable of despicable things that other humans can do, as I am a human myself who can commit genocide if I want to. But, I choose not to. Because I have no interest in doing harm to my fellow men. And I am good because I am aware I can be evil if I want to.

[@redskinjim]

You are has happy as you want to be. Abraham Lincon

[@monthc]

This is an interesting perspective. I've never really been bothered by the problem of evil, but this might be an answer I can get behind. Disparity was in creation from the beginning, before evil. Light and dark. Day and night. So I think you're on to something.

[@alfredhitchcock45]

We wrestle with God Freedom is precondition for wrestling (out of slavery) Right for free speech - free think

[@leannewilson8288]

Our fellow humans are living and wrestling in this Chaos you spoke of now. It's evident because in the Bible it clearly states all the wrongs will become right. This is what we are seeing. We are actually living in the time that was predicted to happen hundreds of years ago. All the wrongs will become right.

[@Robinson8491]

Good talk. Spinoza says firstly it is ethical to be self-interested. Secondly he says freedom is the highest good attainable, after joy. Jordan explains why they are related. See your self worth (wrestling with god), see that the others are similar to you and also have worth, and then see you are free to see(k) the meaning in that ethically

[@gregderiemacker4842]

If I'm mad at God, he already knows it. So why should I deny the truth and say I'm mad at God! God is making me a better man. Man, it hurts getting a broken hip.

[@whothonaaah2505]

Thanks man

[@keithjohnsonYT]

Some people get upset, because there’s bad people saying awful things, so they set about saying awful things about bad people…damn… I surrender. (There’s no avoiding the cross…but, with thanks to Christ and Santa, we can prepare for death without dying.) I’m probably doing a bad job at surrendering..you know, wrestling…but, it’s not my idea of a good time! 🤷‍♂️ Enjoy! 🙏

[@cybrpvnk]

This is what Nietzsche meant with the super men.

[@KW-es2bz]

Jacob himself wrestled with God physically according to the Bible and would not let Him go until God blessed him.

[@ADAMmusl]

They r blind 😂😂

[@elad2112]

The word Israel in Hebrew is comprised by two words. ישר-אל First word is “strait” (Yashar in transliteration) Second word is god (El) In the wisdom Kabbalah “strait to god” meaning people who have their intention to god at all times, in contrary to their inherent nature which is bad (meaning opposite from god) The word Hebrew have hidden the word “passed” inside it - meaning a hebrew is someone who passes a barrier between his human nature and “gods nature” The word “Jew” have inside it hidden the word “special” because of the special connection of belonging a Jew have with god. If you notice I’m the Bible Abraham was first “a Hebrew” than later his people became Israel- so these are all spiritual states that change and get different names to describe them. I never heard nor I understand where “fighting with god” have any lingual or associative connection to the word “Israel” in Hebrew in formal Jewish writings- but I digress cause it sounds fine to have a little fight , as long as it’s a part of a living relationship with god 😇

[@the2ndcoming135]

Ecclesiastes 9:6((N.A.S.B.))💫

[@the2ndcoming135]

**👉🏽💪🏽

[@teronjames7457]

freedom that no one can't take away from you....is freedom to think

[@GunterZochbauer]

Not true as Dr. Peterson explains in the video. Thinking needs talking and dialog. If you think all by yourself, you probably won't make much progress in the long run. This is why free speech is essential.

[@teronjames7457]

@@GunterZochbauer no one can stop me to think.....and talk.....pls stop wasting my time

[@Torgo1969]

Is it okay to get Him in an armbar?

[@MobbingQueen-ty3bh]

Professor , evils make SAINTS ! We should say thank you

[@filipsnajperful]

The speach is great. But I can't leave without saying that this suit is pure perfection. Simple yet elegant and modern, the dark endge of suit lapel gives it sharp contrast. Someone did a good job.

[@IamMedicine]

I wrestled With God for 25 years. In the end I found I was wrestling alone.

[@bepreparedforwhatscoming4975]

Seek God and you'll find him. It's that simple

[@prestonnyoni8168]

How old are you?

[@bepreparedforwhatscoming4975]

Why did you spend that long wrestling with him? Why not be humble and seek him with respect?

[@onenote6619]

I would wrestle with god if I thought god existed. But if god does not exist, how can I wrestle with it? Belief in God is a circular argument - once you say to yourself 'what if there is no god and I am responsible for myself and my actions' the illusion vanishes.

[@VoVina111]

You are wrestling with the truth of God even in your comment

[@GunterZochbauer]

That's just because of the nonsense we are taught about God. God is something derived from observing ourselves. It's knowledge and understanding. If you believe you exist, then there is no reason to doubt God exists. Not believing in God is like not believing in Animals while petting your cat. What it's all about is, trusting that the way the Bible describes how to conduct your life will lead to a life worth living, because to figure it out all by yourself, one lifetime is way too short and it's also stupid to make all the painful mistakes yourself when others already figured out what works and what doesn't.

[@kimberlymoxley104]

We wrestle with our free will....🙏💞🙏

[@piehound]

Actually the name ISRAEL has several different meanings. (1) Those who RULE with God. (2) God RULES (3) God Perseveres (4) Those who WRESTLE with God (5) And several other possible ways to SPIN that. Clearly the EL part = " God. " It can also mean "THE MIGHTY ONE." As i n ELIJAH which means JAH is my MIGHTY ONE. Obviously there is some flexibility in how these Hebrew names are translated depending on (a) context and (b) other factors. But go ahead and tell the story (again) Dr. Peterson. It's called indoctrination. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKDPgmhuZ7uYhNU After all . . . what would happen if we were NOT all on the same page ?????

[@nekki9228]

It's so funny that he talks about humanity and its problems of slavery, free will and value while having two Nestlé water bottles promoted right in front of the audience XD oh the tragedy of it all :D

[@adnanleo3096]

Is Jesus praying to God or wrestling with God here: “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”

[@Hafsa8660]

I thought you Christians considered Jesus to be God. You mean is he wrestling with himself?

[@adnanleo3096]

@@Hafsa8660 exactly, Jesus in this verse is pleading to God the father to help him and his supposed follower Peterson is asking people to wrestle. Whats this all about.

[@Hafsa8660]

@@adnanleo3096 In our religion people like Abraham and Jacob are suppose to be our role models. They didn’t “wrestle” with God. When he ordered them to do something they did it without question. They trusted in God completely and had such strong faith that Abraham would even sacrifice his son for him. Someone who wrestles with God doesn’t have faith in him like Satan. “Or did you witness when death came to Jacob? He asked his children, “Who will you worship after my passing?” They replied, “We will ˹continue to˺ worship your God, the God of your forefathers-Abraham, Ishmael, and Isaac-the One God. And to Him we ˹all˺ submit.” Quran: 2:133

[@user-vf2op4id3h]

Jesus ate Cancer destroyed it . Cancer was the fall Jesus is the Therapy through faith and love in Him we find strength in our weaknesses and find salvation through Him and by Him. It's the only way to fight in life and find Jesus the bread of life. Amen

[@libertiner1380]

Without being religius, how could you find the comfort, knowing your beloved partner may soon die og cancer soon and time is short ?

[@virtuosyc]

There is no comfort for the non-religious atheists or agnostic nihilists that can't truly value life. Either there is a God and you believe in him and his purpose for you or you don't. Whatever happens, we, who are left have to keep moving forward and I'm sure you know that.

[@rockyfjord5338]

It's ok to wrestle with Centaurs and nymphs, which have the same being as God.

[@therealdoomsage]

I'm not sure I understand why Dr. Peterson insists that in order to know that slavery is wrong, you have to believe that individuals are sovereign. Because, no, you don't; the only thing you need to know in order to determine whether an action is immoral or moral is whether or not that something causes unnecessary (or perhaps unreasonable) suffering. Be it to an animal, or a human. So, eating meat, while technically not necessary it is absolutely unreasonable to expect humanity to discontinue eating meat entirely for a whole bunch of reasons that I won't get into for the sake of brevity. So, that's not immoral. Battery Farming chickens for their eggs, however, due to the egregious excess involved purely for the want of ever increasing profits, absolutely is immoral. I'm slowly coming around to the idea that maybe, just maybe, religion isn't a total dog-pile of utterly worthless rhetoric regarding the power trip of a divine megalomaniac with small man syndrome. I admit that I have been absolutely closed minded to anything other than my preconceptions up until now, however, I call BS on the whole idea that we can't know what's right or wrong without it coming from somewhere higher than us. It comes from our empathy. If I know that it hurts to be bitten, then I can extrapolate that it must hurt for others too, and so I know that it's a shitty thing to bite people, because pain is unpleasant.

[@user-vf2op4id3h]

Adam inherited death through Eve that was the fall that's the struggle. Death is ferocious, untameable,a beast, Satan, the Devil, Homosexually all equal the same thing. That's the problem, faith and love is the Therapy in Jesus our Jewish Messiah.Amen

[@AnaRanja]

Din punct de vedere a lui God nu I chiar ok

[@traviswilhelm633]

Jordan, are you wrestling with God? If so, who do you rationally think will win? Give in. He doesn't expect you to have your house in order to be in relationship with Him

[@saywhatyousay93]

Peterson goggins make it fucking happen someone please damn smh

[@PhamVans]

I believe that practice is called "sparring" in today's world.

[@RuneRelic]

If your God and your Ruler share the same ethics, perhaps there is nothing to wrestle with.

[@yonayehezkel3150]

What Is the Difference Between God and Nature? “It is best for us to agree and accept the words of the Kabbalists that ‘the nature’ (Heb. ‘HaTeva’ [‘הטבע’]) has the same numerical value as ‘God’ (Heb. ‘Elohim’ [‘אלהים’]-eighty-six. Then, I will be able to call the laws of God ‘nature’s commandments [Mitzvot],’ or vice-versa (God’s commandments [Mitzvot] by the name ‘nature’s laws’), for they are one and the same.” - Kabbalist Yehuda Ashlag (Baal HaSulam), “The Peace.” There is nothing besides the system of nature, which Kabbalists equally refer to as “nature” or “God,” and we are integral parts of this system. Therefore, when we say that there is one God, it means that there is nothing besides one force acting in this single system we are parts of. The desire of the single force acting in reality is to bring us into connection with it-not via coercion, but through awareness in a positive manner. As much as we understand, feel and attain this force as one that is good and benevolent, then we can adhere to it and reach its level of complete awareness.

[@fishn2death]

Come out of her my people ..... Are you loose of her ?

[@yungterry3310]

I wrestle every time with god with my pinky out of the way drinking a Sprite.

[@StoneShards]

Hmm...Why "wrestle" with God? Do we compete with God for supremacy? Do we resist God's direction? We wrestle with our existence, which is the body of an omnipresent God.

[@fernandokausel4925]

I'm an atheist myself, but I really appreciate the (traditionally) liberal value of free speech and inherent value of an individual, and as a consequence, your right, or even obligation, to wrestle with authority.

[@timstapleman]

Wrestling with god doesn't sound like a good idea to me and quite frankly I would rather not know about it.

[@TopperPenquin]

Until you learn that there are Space Pirates 😂

[@TopperPenquin]

Once you've achieved this amazing truth you will be set fr33.

[@MrGobsmack]

poor mr. p. how pointless to wrestle with god. it is all about surrender. remember the cross thing.

[@gatuzoarayas6676]

It shows to everybody that maybe noble books meant to teach good in its core , just turned into bricks of falsetruth and false historic rights by bad people . The religions by itself are the first sin of the humanity.

[@olafhaze7898]

What kind of title is this? Why would anybody even think about this, don't you see how incomparable the LORD is in HIS Beneficence, Mercy or Patience. that ONE WHO provides everything WHO made the earth and the seven heavens without any cracks. Maybe it's hard for capitalist to understand because the LORD is exactly the opposite of these people. Why not wrestle with iblis instead?

[@karlostj4683]

"We take it for granted that slavery is wrong. But why we think it's wrong, is not so bloody obvious." Well, that depends on your philosophy. If you have a philosophy based on and dedicated to life as an individual human being, then slavery is wrong: Because (a) life as an individual human being requires freedom to think, to act, and to express oneself; and (b) these freedoms can only be destroyed by someone else initiating the use of physical force; which leads to (c) slavery by definition is wrong. No. God. Required.

[@joemichener2337]

If you wrestle with God then you do not agree with God's way and feel your way is better. If you want to wrestle with God then you are telling Him that your way is better than His! God gave Jacob direction in his life for the best outcome, yet Jacob wrestle with God because he had a better idea of what the outcome should be than God's way. If God has the best plan for your life than why would you wrestle Him over it?

[@Razear]

If "Israel" means to wrestle with God, then the Israelites might as well be bestowed the title of lineal world champion. Lol