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[@brandonflorida1092]

Thank you for watching this. Reactors tend to do the same 5 Hitchcock movies over and over, the same 5 westerns over and over, the same 5 Simon and Garfunkel songs over and over, when there are many fabulous examples of each of these categories. In general, they're petrified to be the first to react to something, so it's very admirable that you choose what you're interested in, even when you're the first to react to it.

[@joebloggs396]

Those people doing those endless repeat requests are so tiresome, it feels like they are mainly American and haven't really looked at much.

[@brandonflorida1092]

@@joebloggs396 I don't know about nationality, but when I suggest that one of them react to something that hasn't been done before, they act like they've seen a ghost. For example, for years I recommended that people react to Hitchcock and was utterly ignored. Finally, a few braver and better reactors reacted to him and now all the cowards are following suit, but only the same 5 movies over and over ad nauseum. There are many examples like this, but one of the most annoying is Abbott and Costello skits. There are about 10 really great skits of theirs on KZbin, but all you get is "Who's On First" and "7 x 13 = 28" again and again ad nauseum. I always comment these reactions with my full list but it's exceptionally rare for someone to take me up on it. At least one channel that's done a few of their other skits did so only because after a few months I got really sarcastic about it.

[@epsteinisms1483]

@@brandonflorida1092 Keep on fighting! I'm with you all the way! So much wonderful culture being ignored!

[@brandonflorida1092]

@@epsteinisms1483 For years and years I argued with movie reactor's to do the Clint Eastwood "Dollars Trilogy," and it was a very long time before anyone tried it. Now, the 3 movies are reacted to all the time. However, there have been dozens and dozens of reactions to the Danish National Symphony Orchestra playing the theme (and one other piece) from the 3rd movie, "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly." for years and years I've told these reactors that the same orchestra's versions of the other two movies are also superb, and not one of those people have ever tried either of the others. A father and son reacting duo reacted to them once, but they're the only ones. 99% of reactors have zero desire to do anything original and, in fact, are petrified by the idea.

[@brandonflorida1092]

@@epsteinisms1483 I wrote this big, long response to you about some cases where reactors do the same reactions over and over and, for some reason, KZbin deleted it.

[@robertjewell9727]

One of my personal favorite films. Tippi gives a perfect perfor mange imo. Having worked as a counselor in a psychiatric home she exhibits a person with a "severe character disorder" with exactly the right nuances. Marnie's defenses are melodramatic imitations rather than genuine because she's always avoided real interactions due to her upbringing since her mother is very essentially "acting" for her clients. Underrated and brilliant to my thinking. Plus Hitvhcock's visual expressionism is always conveying Marnie,'s state of mind especially when she arrives at her mother,'s Baltimore rowhouse.along the water where sailors, her mother's main clients were arriving and departing

[@henryellow]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing! 😊

[@HuntingViolets]

Melody Thomas Scott, who went on to (and still plays) Nikki Newman on _The Young and the Restless,_ plays Young Marnie here.

[@jtt6650]

Bruce Dern, the sailor, has an important role in Hitchcock’s last, FAMILY PLOT (1976), a fun twist and turn murder/jewel heist mystery. He’s actually a really good actor, in both drama and comedy.

[@HuntingViolets]

And Laura Dern's father.

[@jtt6650]

@@HuntingViolets and she has nothing to do with him as an actor or with FAMILY PLOT

[@HuntingViolets]

@@jtt6650 Just a bit of additional trivia.

[@Cbcw76]

Bruce Dern would be the driving-force villain in the wonderful SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SHERIFF with James Garner as The Sheriff and Walter Brennan as the head of the family raising Dern to be the town bully/killer.

[@JC-rb3hj]

Marnie was a staple on late night television when I was a teenager though heavily edited. The color red was more of a dark gray, everyone we knew had B&W television sets. The idea of a frigid woman went completely over my green to the wicked ways of the world head back then. Henry, kudos. A really excellent and respectful cut to a largely overlooked Hitchcock classic. I think Connery was directed by Hitchcock to be a kind of an alter ego. Hitchcock had an obsession with his blonde types that rebuffed his advances, they were not interested in him. I think there are a lot of moments in Marnie where Hitchcock was watching himself so to speak in a more powerful position with the object of his desire.

[@henryellow]

Most of Hitchcock's movies were made for adults (due to murder, implying bedroom acts, etc.) so I'm sure some things would go over young audiences' heads. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing! 😊

[@epsteinisms1483]

The deaf cleaning lady at Rutland's is Edith Evanson. You may remember her from "Rope". (Mrs. Wilson)

[@brandonflorida1092]

The woman at the house who furnished a gun when Forio was hurt was Meg Wyllie who played The Keeper in the original failed pilot for "Star Trek" called "The Cage," later incorporated into the show's only 2 part episode, "The Menagerie."

[@henryellow]

Is that so. Edith Evanson had such a short scene in this one 😂. We only saw her face for a short while.

[@BigGator5]

"You don't love me. I'm just something you've caught! You think I'm some sort of animal you've trapped!" "That's right - you are. And I've caught something really wild this time, haven't I? I've tracked you and caught you and by God I'm going to keep you." Fun Fact: Theatrical movie debut of Louise Latham. Gun Enthusiast Fact: Marnie (Tippi Hedren) shoots the horse with a Smith & Wesson Model 10 revolver. That's Hot Fact: After rehearsing just a few scenes with Sir Sean Connery, Tippi Hedren asked Sir Alfred Hitchcock how she was "supposed to be frigid" around the hansom young Connery. Hitchcock's reply was reportedly: "Yes, my dear, it's called acting." Mechanical Horse Fact: Sir Alfred Hitchcock was reluctant to use a mechanical horse to film the shots of Marnie (Tippi Hedren) riding, but sent a crew member to inspect a mechanical horse owned by Disney that was supposed to be the best in existence. Walt Disney spotted the crew member on the Disney lot and personally offered to let Hitchcock use it, which he did. On Set In-Fighting Fact: Sir Alfred Hitchcock and Tippi Hedren had a major falling-out during filming, and there was a rumor that, by the end, he directed her through intermediaries. Although Hedren admits that their friendship ended during shooting, she denies the rumor that he didn't finish directing the movie. Despite the troubles which reportedly took place on set, Tippi Hedren has stated that this is her favorite movie in which she has appeared. Budget Friendly Fact: Sir Alfred Hitchcock, following his usual practice, bid for the movie rights to Winston Graham's novel anonymously, so as to keep the price down. However, in this instance, the scheme backfired; the anonymity of the purchaser made Graham suspicious, although he regarded the amount of money on offer as extremely generous. He instructed his agent to ask for twice as much. Hitchcock agreed, on condition that the deal be closed immediately. When Graham discovered who it was who had bought the rights, he said he would have given them away free for the honor of having one of his stories filmed by Alfred Hitchcock.

[@henryellow]

I'm surprised they already have realistic mechanical horses (that can be used for filming) even back then. Someone else mentioned about Hedren and Hitchcock's "falling out" too. It's too bad, what happened. Thanks for sharing! 😉

[@BigGator5]

You're welcome! Go with God and Be Safe from Evil. 😎 👍

[@meganlutz7150]

You seemed to be enjoying yourself during this one Henry. I completely agree Mark was no saint. Neither was Marnie. Or the mother for that matter. I think that is one thing I like about this movie. All the characters are interesting and complex. Thanks for a great reaction !

[@joebloggs396]

Is it all tied up too neatly Hollywood style in the ending? It's like it's a load of detective work and it's all solved. Vertigo which had a twisted relationship as well ended in tragedy and maybe this film should have done.

[@henryellow]

I'm glad it was a happy ending, though the journey was not "happy" or "joyful" for Marnie. I can think of two possible tragic endings if Marnie's childhood incident was never revealed. 1) Marnie couldn't take it anymore, and finally kills herself. 2) Marnie snaps and kills Mark. She could easily get the gun from the safe since she knows the combination already. Slightly less tragic endings would be: - Marnie escapes from Mark and goes into hiding with her mother. - One of Marnie's past jobs catch up to her and she goes to jail.

[@jamesharper3933]

Thanks for reacting to this movie. It gets mixed reactions, some say it's not one of his best but I'm a big Hitchcock and Sean Connery fan so I'm there for it.

[@gggooding]

Just looked it up: $9967 in 1964 would be $99,774.81 today. So that would float ya for a while.

[@henryellow]

Marnie said she did 5 jobs (including Strutt). If each job nets about the same amount, then she's got a lot of money stashed somewhere!

[@gggooding]

The badass brunette Diane Baker (meow)...plays the senator in Silence of the Lambs. The sailor is Bruce Dern's first role. He was in _a lot_ of movies. As was/is his daughter, Laura Dern. Sean Connery was never in any other movies that I know of. (🤔🤗🤗🤗🤗)

[@jamesharper3933]

Diane Baker was a cute little sex kitten.😀

[@HuntingViolets]

Mariette Hartley played the other office worker. She's done a few things, played in the first episode of _The Incredible Hulk,_ and starred in a series of Polaroid ads with James Garner.

[@jamesharper3933]

@@HuntingViolets I haven't checked but did Mariette and Garner have a off screen relationship or something (married)?

[@HuntingViolets]

@@jamesharper3933 No. Just friendly, I guess. She was cast in the commercials with him. A lot of viewers assumed they were married, though.

[@joebloggs396]

​@@jamesharper3933 She's cute but her part seems limited in this. Likely the least interesting of the main characters.

[@Patti-sg1fv]

The most underrated Hitchcock movie ever imo. Thanks for your reaction to it. Just subbed. Hello from WA state 🙋‍♀️👍

[@henryellow]

Hope you enjoyed my reaction 😊 and welcome aboard! 👍🏻

[@im-gi2pg]

You’re wearing a red hoodie!!!!!!!!!!!😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 We saw this as kids, lol. My sister and I would say, “Marnie, you’re achin’ my 🦵🏾 leg!😂😂😂 The suitcase she’ll never come back for. It’s hidden in the locker for good. It has her old ID in it? Her black wig?

[@henryellow]

I know!!! 😱 😂🦵🏻 The suitcase might contain the evidence of her previous con. Could have found better ways to dispose of them though. Nah, she didn't wear a wig. She dyed her hair.

[@HuntingViolets]

Yes, this does have things in common with _Spellbound._ Good catch.

[@mikeduplessis8069]

I know I watched Marnie many decades ago but there wasn't a single detail I remembered.

[@TTM9691]

Great to revisit this one with you, that was great commentary! Haven't seen this in a while. Wow, you're ready to teach a course in Hitchcock! Definitely some callbacks to earlier films. Of his post-Psycho work, the only ones I like are "Marnie" and "Frenzy" (his second-to-last movie), the other three not so much. (They all have great sequences in them, of course, that's never the problem!) Thank again, Henry!

[@henryellow]

You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed it! 😊

[@im-gi2pg]

Sean Connery is in the first James Bond 🍿 movies!!!😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@henryellow]

I haven't started on any James Bond movies yet 😂. I guess I'll see him again when I get to James Bond.

[@joebloggs396]

I like the story in this, maybe it gets melodramatic later with Tippi's part. But I think I prefer it to The Birds which of course doesn't have Sean Connery playing opposite her. Marnie does try and dig deeper into this lead character too.

[@davidfox5383]

Marnie put the suitcase in the locker and threw away the key because she would never use those clothes again... it was a way of helping to prevent her from being traced. I'm glad you appreciated this film... there was a lot of controversy about the film itself and the making of the film. Hedren says that she was abused and molested by Hitchcock during the filming of this... when she rejected his advances he basically ruined her career. It's a shame because she does give an excellent performance in this. As movies were beginning to get more realistic during this era, the critics of the time really blasted this film for the artificiality of the editing and backdrops. However defenders of the film compare it to German expressionism and I do believe the artificiality adds to the atmosphere.

[@jamesharper3933]

Exactly right. She put the key down the grate because she had no intention of coming back for them.

[@henryellow]

Well, that's one storage locker space no one would get to use 😂 If what Hedren said was true, and Hitchcock ruined her career because if it, then that's terrible. I do agree that she gave a great performance here. The backdrops were obvious but still acceptable. The horse galloping through the field was real though, wasn't it? Thanks for sharing 😊

[@jamesharper3933]

@@henryellow The far away shots of her on horseback were real. The close-ups were more than likely in studio on a mechanical horse with a process plate in the background.

[@Cbcw76]

Hitch was NOT a nice person by most regards, especially among the women. He seemed to use a favorite new-love actress for 2-3 films, then she'd tolerate no more and more forcefully reject him. I've suspected the Leading Men in those films either protected this film's actress OR they turned their back on them, saying something akin to "You're a big girl - take care of yerself." Of course, the real hero could have been those actresses' ability to befriend Hitch's wife, and use her as leverage/protection against him. There is little supporting information about this on any consistent basis, though.

[@michaeltucker5805]

make sure you watch Frenzy.

[@Cbcw76]

He's got FRENZY as of my writing on this date, which again is a film-reaction I've never seen on YT before. Congrats to that. FRENZY is a particularly sleazy film FOR Hitch - who probably loved his sleaze and finally had a chance to film a nude female AND show 'her' on-screen. (I am making a veiled reference to Janet Leigh's "she's got a big bosom" quote by Hitch about the Shower Scene film stretching on and on. Ahhh yes... of course he would do that. Or is "shower-curtain'd" the better word rather than 'veiled'?)

[@Hayseo]

You can’t fix crazy.

[@zvimur]

2:05, Ah, the legendary Hitchcock Blonde. Watch the "Hitchcock" biopic, starring Anthony Hopkins, for carification.

[@dionysiacosmos]

"Swan" was a Southern genteelism for "swear" as "land's sake" was for "lord's sake". One more extra remove from bad language. In the old days it was something we were taught by our cotton pickin' mothers. Remember, when Marnie's mother was sexually active with Billy, she might not have understood the consequences. My mother, from rural Georgia, woke up one morning when she was 14 and thought she was bleeding to death. This was the late 1940s. It wasn't only her mother who kept her that ignorant, as she also had three older sisters. And as her father had died when my mother was two, her mother was the one who decided those things. Luckily for me in the 1960s and 70s, starting at the age of 9 and continuing through 16, girls were shown educational films on the subject at school. Later, when she told me what happened to her at menarche ( first period ), I asked her why her family did her that way, she was just as baffled by it as I was. The only thing that makes even bad sense is this. Fundamentals take two different views of what Eve eating the apple ( forbidden fruit ), and giving one to Adam symbolizes. The first view is the old Original Sin or sex. The second view is the Bible says the fruit came from The Tree of Knowledge and when they ate the fruit they became self aware, and self ashamed. Somehow over time the two became confabulated. Neither idea makes much sense on their own merits, meshing them together has at times been disastrous. And still is. Illogical stance, view one. God says to Adam and Eve to be fruitful and multiply. Why would He tell them that if He didn't want them to have sex, the very thing He designed their bodies to do. Illogical stance, view two. Eating the Fruit of Knowledge endowed Adam and Eve with the knowledge to tell the difference between right and wrong. Until that happened they didn't understand it. So before that any instructions He gave, including eating the Fruit was a waste of effort. They couldn't comprehend the meaning behind the words. It's like putting a new colorful object in front of a toddler. Of course they're going to go right to it. Our brains are hard wired to do it. Also, for believers, something He designed. Then He banished them from the Garden for performing to specifications. Maybe it only really goes to show how people thought in The Bronze Age. We're well rid of it.

[@henryellow]

Well, I just swan! So that's how it is! 😂 What happened to your mother still happens today, unfortunately. What I mean is, children are kept ignorant about many matters, or they're expected to know "common sense". But the thing is, common sense is taught, no one is born with it! A simple example is a hot kettle. It's "common sense" not to touch a hot kettle or we get burned. Now, a small child wouldn't know that unless someone told him or he experienced the burn himself. When the child does get burned, he's scolded for being "stupid" with no common sense and deserved to get burned. Or he's laughed at. The incident may cause the child to become cowardly, overly cautious, or never try new things again. (How a child responds to these life experiences depends on personality too, some may be unfazed). Imagine if a child receives NO feedback when he does the right things, but receives attention and scolding when he does the wrong things. It's not hard to imagine how he might end up. Either he hides within an anxious shell (not wanting to try new things) or he rebels. A child's healthy development depends on parents and how much these parents know about good parenting. Sorry about what happened to your mother. It must've been horrifying to wake up one day and think you're bleeding to death. No one forgets an experience like that. It doesn't help that talking about it is taboo. As far as I know, the schools in my country don't teach sexual education, so it's up to the parents. Thanks for sharing! 😊

[@dionysiacosmos]

@@henryellow It's true that parents need common sense. With my kids when they were little, and even with a new puppy or kitten I carefully trained "hot!". Dumb show for the babies, and when the oven was hot I opened the door to let a wave of heat out at them. The next time one of them was in the kitchen and the oven was hot, I opened it just enough so the door got hot enough to sting, said "hot!", again and pretended to ignore them, counting on their nervous system to make them withdraw their hands before they were conscious of the pain. It did, and I made another show of "hot!". They never even had a blister, but understood to avoid hot things. Animals are harder, I just told them no, opened the oven door for the heat wave, and wait. I've only had one puppy get a little burn, but she wasn't very bright. The others had better instincts.

[@zvimur]

9:45, during the 60s many tried to make Hitchcok-style thrillers. 2 of the better ones featured Diane Baker. "Mirage" starring Gregory Peck, and "The Prize" starring Paul Newman.

[@brandonflorida1092]

Don't forget "Arabesque." "Mirage" was quite good.

[@jamesharper3933]

I saw Mirage free on KZbin and then bought the DVD.

[@brandonflorida1092]

@@jamesharper3933 I saw it almost 60 years ago on TV

[@zvimur]

@@brandonflorida1092 (I was talking about those with Diane Baker).

[@jamesharper3933]

@@brandonflorida1092 Congratulations.

[@brandonflorida1092]

The actor, Martin Gabel, who played Strut was a very nice guy - the exact opposite of his character here - humble and funny - and could be seen a lot on the quiz show "What's My Line?" in the 50s and 60s. Changing pace entirely, I think it's important to note that Hitchcock is not presenting Mark's behavior as normal or correct at all, and also that the sailor who was killed hadn't done anything wrong and was actually kindly. I think Mrs. Edgar already hated men by that point.

[@henryellow]

It IS possible that the sailor was showing love to Marnie (not in a sexual way), but Mrs. Edgar misunderstood him.

[@brandonflorida1092]

@@henryellowI think that he was being kind.

[@henryellow]

Yes, but we'll never know for sure. We saw the whole thing from Marnie's perspective, after all. And since he died, he can't speak up for himself.

[@brandonflorida1092]

@@henryellowI think it showed that Mrs. Edgar was already developing a pathological hatred of men.

[@henryellow]

Oh, I'm sure that seed of hatred was planted in Mrs. Edgar the moment Billy left her with Marnie.

[@user-xg1qv6jl8p]

Sean Connery ❤

[@masudaharris6435]

I keep thinking Sean Connery is Bond.

[@Cbcw76]

I often match MARNIE with PSYCHO because of "Mother and Child" relationships, and the resulting character left behind. One great thing is that absolute lack of concern over Connery's accent. Never one mention of it, almost as if "No need - it is what it is." In so many other films, other actors have the Excuse Scene where their accents are either excused or so comically bad that no excuse can help (a la Anthony Perkins as an Aussie in the terrific 1959 ON THE BEACH).

[@Cbcw76]

Connery's white-haired "father" is the original Batman TV's Alfred The Butler, by the way, Alan Napier. He had a huge catalog of American TV episodes in his last three decades, and an equally large casting in film for his first 3 decades. But in that '50s mix of TV and film, his notable film appearances included as The Head Commie Pinko Agent in Hawaii vs. John Wayne and James ("Gunsmoke") Arness in BIG JIM McLAIN (with Nancy Olson in this 1952 "proof I'm no commie!" movie that John Wayne paraded around, bragging about that lapel pin. As you dig into the early '50s film and TV, you'll discover how influential Sen Joseph McCarthy/Congressman Richard Nixon's witch hunt committee. BIG JIM is a prime example of this form of propoganda). Also, if you start digging in Napier's background, you'll likely discover he was The High Priest in 1956's THE MOLE PEOPLE, where a flashlight was The Weapon Of Choice. I mean - how bad can a film be with THAT credential?!!

[@Cbcw76]

Diane Baker had a long career as The Other Women in so many of her films with big-name Leading Men. Or she played some super-authority figure (like Senator Mom in SILENCE OF THE LAMBS whose daughter is the final kidnap victim for Buffalo Bill). In 1965's MIRAGE, she's paired well with amnesiac Gregory Peck. And Diane's still with us... she's a treasure of memories in her transition from post-war movies into TV. Diane's character is really a strange one, too... she's an ex-sister-in-law, is that right? Gotta wonder where her lust for 'Mark' started...

[@henryellow]

I don't really get the thing with Connery's accent. You mean he wasn't supposed to have that accent while playing this character? You're quite an expert on celebrities. I understand less than half of the things you've referenced. Mainly because I'm not familiar with the actors/actresses and the movies. Maybe one day I'll catch up 😂 Thanks for sharing your thoughts! 😊

[@Cbcw76]

@@henryellow No. Not at all. His accent is never mentioned, not excused, not even given a line of recognition. By anyone. HOW REFRESHING! After 1945, Brit filmmakers struggled to get American dollars into their theaters, and they would bring in an America 'name' in hopes of having the thousands (instead of UK's hundreds) of theaters contribute. Often in those films, they would synthesize dialog to 'excuse' the American on-scene, or make him use a very fake accent. And UK audiences would gag and American audiences were thinking, "Why explain Yanks in the UK after WWII?" Filmmakers were such idiots in those cases. If you see 1959's ON THE BEACH, Anthony 'Norman Bates' Perkins puts on the best 'Terrible Aussie Accent Of All Times' for his role as a native Aussie when, in fact, there were tens of thousands in Aussie at that time. Why make/trick Anthony into doing something so horribly? It's not wonder he went on a psycho killing spree-!!

[@henryellow]

Ohh, ok. I got it 😉

[@HuntingViolets]

Most people who type professionally can touch type.

[@henryellow]

Well, yes. I'm more impressed that she can type accurately while her attention is focused elsewhere 👍🏻