It's time Halo brought the Flood back

[@jackgubbels1563]

A story like deadspace already exists in the lore, the story of the Mona Lisa would be a great spin off game. Or a good basis for a spin off

[@Southpaw4696]

Been saying this for years.

[@that_one_helljumper]

A game taking place on the Mona Lisa as one of the characters who inevitably dies A game taking place in Voi as a marine or ODST where you also, inevitably die. Either by the hand of the covenant, the flood, the elite ships glassing the city if you survive to that point, or even by the hand of your panicked comrades losing their minds. Even more different. One taking place on high charity as the infestation starts. You could play as an Elite surviving, both trying to save yourself from the brutes and effectively contain the flood before you're overrun

[@clan741]

I imagine the perfect scenario of a flood survival horror is the in Amber Clad. At some point the flood got onboard and used it to slipspace into high charity. Imagine you were an ODST onboard when that went down, and your job is to wipe the ships data clean of earths location. Maybe a happy-ish ending where your odst character gets in a drop pod and escapes onto delta halo’s surface moments before Clad goes into slipspace, to be picked up by Johnson and the arbiter later.

[@icyknightmare4592]

I like this, but what if it had two twists: 1. If it's supposed to be a horror game, what if the player is just a UNSC navy officer? Imagine being on the receiving end of a Flood boarding action without the benefit of being a Spartan or a top tier special forces soldier. You have to try to wipe the nav data and escape. You get the 'good' ending if successful, and a bonus mission where you join up with the Arbiter and remaining humans as they capture the cruiser Rtas mentions in Halo 2. 2. If you get infected, the game isn't over, you're just on the other team now. After a nightmare fuel infection sequence, you are now a Flood combat form tasked with hunting down the XO and other key personnel to be consumed by the Gravemind, and then prevent survivors from sabotaging the ship before it can jump to High Charity. In the Flood ending, the bonus mission is to fly one of In Amber Clad's Pelicans into High Charity, drop carrier forms on Covenant civilians, and go on a rampage in the center of the holy city.

[@royce_beyer]

@@icyknightmare4592 What would be even better for the second option is your character not knowing that their infected until they've completed their objective.

[@icyknightmare4592]

@@royce_beyer An infection form would be too quick, but that would work for a spore infection, which thus far has had no representation in gameplay. Good idea.

[@Mike-hg4cl]

I genuinely was hoping and expecting when infinite was announced we would see a direct link to the HALO Wars series and by extension possibly involve the flood that appeared in the expansion seeing how we are literally overlapping the story with the banished.

[@TheBigCabezon]

I was hoping for some Spirit of Fire action maybe, and it takes super copium, but maybe more deep lore on Zeta Halo, the Flood, ancient humans, biological testing, and the Primordial. It didn't need to be our enemy, that could still be the banished, but imagine if there were creepy, run down experimental facilities you could find in the open world. You know, actual world building for us to find out there lol.

[@Mike-hg4cl]

@@TheBigCabezon absolutely the flood coukd have easily played a small part in the story! After playing Halo Wars 2 and reading the books surrounding this I thought they'd at least give some cameos if not all out involve the spirit of fire and possibly the Ferrets!

[@ProfessionalToffee]

There is a project currently in the works called Branching Sickness, but that's being made by an independent group of people, not 343. I do agree though that I would love to see the flood from a civilian or marine perspective.

[@darthshaggy9697]

I think two great possible spin-offs flood-related would either be the story of Johnson escaping the first Halo ring, which would fill in massive gaps for those who didn't read the books, or have it set in high charity during the great schism as maybe one of the escaping Marines or as an elite cause we need some elite content really bad at this point. That, or because of the banished brute oriented style they've had in the past couple games, you could have it as a brute serving Tartarus or one of many brute commanders engaged in the civil war.

[@Nostripe361]

I think a major problem for Halo is that after three, you have pretty much destroyed the two big bads of the series (covenant and the flood). So four and five were trying and failed to create a new interesting big bad. I feel that infinite works better cause the Banished actually fit better in the world. I feel that after three, they should have put mainline games on the backburner for a bit while making extended universe games for the series. Like Halo ODST games, Halo wars games, a flood survival game, games like Fall of Reach, games about the Arbiter's forces or human special forces hunting Prophets or taking on covenant remnants. I would also like to see a spy/stealth game involving the Arbiter working with elite and human forces to expose ONI's worse crimes and work to prevent them from upsetting the fragile peace between species.

[@TheBigCabezon]

Agreed. Honestly, the banished should have been the enemy right out the gates. Just because the prophets died doesn't mean the Covenant disappeared. Just like Star Wars, I think it would be more likely there would be a war for succession. Banished vs Covenant Remnants but handled a lot more tightly. I think maybe people would complain since we just finished beating them in 3, but like you said, if we waited a number of years while playing universe expanding games, I think coming back as Chief fighting the Banished would make for a compelling narrative.

[@kabuki_kitten7129]

with the xtraction shoter thing halo was famous for the flood infection game mode idk why you ant have a horror campaign with a massive 100 player infection game mode multiplayer

[@PackHunter117]

*HiddenXperia has entered the chat*

[@novadelsol8127]

Firstly, I agree with the points you brought up, simplification of Halo. I think if the SCP laboratory game has done as good as it has, why not make a Mona Lisa Halo game. Prisoners, scientists, marines and of course the flood, it's the perfect blend for a multi-player survival horror. 343 doesn't want anything to do with what Halo is, they proved that when they took the name of an antagonist for their company and changed every aspect of the Halo lore. We need some eccentric billionaire to buy the Halo IP, until then. Nice video, I hope we do get more spin-off Halo games, I've thought of at least half a dozen games ideas. I've been thinking about trying to share my ideas on KZbin, but I'm nervous haha.

[@Albeerox]

Or a darker grittier game set during the upbringing of spartan 3's on onyx where it opens like the last level on reach where youre just fighting a ridiculous amount of wave after wave of covenant on pegasi or whatever and then title card and you basically get to play through the whole ghosts of onyx book as a spartan 3 in SPI armor and it's in the style of republic commando but more brutal and cinematic. I think that shit would go exceptionally hard

[@The_cestelin_Holland]

By fearsome and awesome you mean aboulutly horrific

[@LateNightHalo]

Microsoft: ok… but can it be rated T for Teen, have no gibbing and launch in an unfinished state?

[@psykology9299]

I would accept Halo becoming T if we got a properly 18+ flood horror game

[@mrphobos141]

I always liked the idea of a game where a flood leak on a cruiser or destroyer (unsc ofc) infected the entire crew except a squad of ODST's who were in cryo and then you wake up from cryo and have to figure out 1: what happened and 2: how to survive and you spend the game trying to figure out the leak happened and how to survive. Then at the end a bunch of oni spooks come aboard and clear the ship of the flood as some sort of biohazard cleanup team and then they get your report and then execute you and your team in the final cutscene in order to tie up loose ends and prevent any intel leaks as well as make sure the flood is contained. It would make all the effort and fighting you put in to survive ultimately mean nothing similar to in reach as in the end you lost anyways, as well as make people be like wtf and would cause a lot more talk about the game through media hype.

[@Squirtsock]

Imagine either a flood based horror game, or a insurrection based game. They would do really good. Especially if it’s from the prospective of a marine ,ODST or army trooper.

[@patrickscheeks8769]

Hell, we could even play as marines against the flood

[@Albeerox]

343 should make a grittier darker game where you're a marine in halo 3 when the flood first gets to earth and you're evacuating civilians from major flood hot spots

[@TheBrowniesOwn]

i agree, 343 letting the flood vanish was a massive L, and the biggest indicator they were about to ruin the plot of the series.

[@wyatttyson7737]

343 let the flood vanish? My guy, they weren't in ODST or Reach, either. Meanwhile the flood are in Halo Wars 2 under 343's reign.

[@clan741]

@@wyatttyson7737 and made by a different studio, Creative Assembly.

[@loremipsum5116]

​@@wyatttyson7737 Don't bother. People like this guy lack the basic common sense to be reasoned with. People say the Flood needs to be brought back every single Halo game despite how the Flood levels of the original trilogy were consistently the most hated.

[@halinaqi2194]

@@loremipsum5116 I can only think of a handful of flood levels that were decent. 343 Guilty spark, Quarantine Zone (the gondola section really should've been shortened out), High Charity (Short and fun, showcases how viral and lethal flood are, remember the flood just landed and they already are overrunning the covenant forces in the towers), Floodgate, and Halo. The flood works best in a multifaction fight and when they are used in short bursts.

[@tyleraguilar2474]

Imagine being a regular Marine trying to survive a flood outbreak

[@SNESfan8]

This would be really cool actually

[@lukekeeler1343]

This would be really cool

[@EpsilonXenos]

The fact that people are wanting this now is disappointing.

[@darthshaggy9697]

It's been wanted I feel for years. People have talked about this kind of stuff for like 5-10 years now.

[@Dragonfruits_]

The lore says the flood are similar to the thing in that they can shape shift and create perfect clones of someone. Would be interesting to see how they implement that in a game especially in multiplayer.

[@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem]

Where is that said in the lore?

[@Dragonfruits_]

@@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Something about the flood supercell mimicing the cells of its victims.

[@spicyarbiter7689]

Yes

[@Ran451]

More flood content, please.

[@airfryer2793]

i swear my brother told me that halo had a survival game or mode. i never was able to find it. I'm curious if anyone knows what he may have been talking about?

[@sgt.marcuspstacker2287]

It would be super fun but I honestly don't think 343 can do it! 500 million and the infinite campaign had half its stuff cut maybe a different developer that's not greedy

[@angelamaro3480]

Halo lore "purists" would complain about spores in the air not turning anyone into combat forms.

[@darthshaggy9697]

Immersion broken reeeeeeeee

[@grantcawby7225]

Don't spores only start to happen in the mid to late stage of an outbreak? Like after the area is secured and enough biomass has been collected to make a gravemind?

[@darthshaggy9697]

@@grantcawby7225 yeah pretty much, there are other ways but those are mostly situational and only cover small areas.

[@angelamaro3480]

@@grantcawby7225 in the end it's all retcons to make the flood even more dangerous. Arbiter was able to walk around the library without an air purifying respirator without a problem.

[@loremipsum5116]

​@@angelamaro3480 We literally see Flood spores in Halo 2, one is even focused on at close range in the epilogue where the Gravemind interrogates Cortana. And in CE Spark mentions the Flood altering the atmosphere as early as the feral stage.

[@whyamiatree4177]

Honestly I'm glad 343 didn't touch the flood and ruin it like they did with the elites design

[@helloitsme6056]

With 343 story writers or what ? Please no... its gonna be bad

[@daymenleo6895]

Agred maybe Halo infinite can do a ops since its dog shit limited quality !!