It's time to talk about Arms 2.

[@minecrafter3448]

No way guys it’s legs

[@TheDuzx]

Arms definitly has legs and people are up in arms about it

[@BBWahoo]

Head, shoulders, knees and toes will be the moment the franchise grows

[@imaanlatios6790]

LOLL

[@SNG_ARMS]

Out of everything, the datamines ARMS has had, give me the biggest amount of hope for a sequel, there's loads of weapons, characters and even a couple of other minigames that went unused so the ideas they could use to expand on a sequel are already there. Not to mention that there is still a story to tell with this game, and while the comic that was meant to tell it was canned, this just opened an opportunity for a potential sequel to tell it. Also if Yabuki and the team have free reign over what crossover content to add into the next mario kart (if any) I would 100% bank on seeing Min Min added, or at the very least an ARMS battle stage!

[@RakastanPorkkanakakkua]

The simple solution to every fighting game to appeal to non-fighting genre players is to add a single-player campaign. See the latest Street Fighter, and unrelated, Diddy Kong Racing adventure mode.

[@TheDuzx]

Looking at Splatoon it's just a great tutorial. I've seen a lot of people be more interested in the campaign and then try multiplayer as they get familiar with the controls in single player.

[@-lord1754]

​@@TheDuzx I see pepple buy splatoon JUST for singleplayer. Its that good which I think gives it a massive edge

[@dannybright8708]

And Smash too, since its whole premise is being a fighting game that can be played like a party game.

[@ATalkingSock]

Amazing video. (thanks for the name drop lol) I can absolutely imagine a new mascot character boosting ARMS's prestige (sorry Biff, you don't cut the cabage) And you know, I think an often overlooked aspect of ARMS with a lot of room for outward expansion is the customization. Like you said, it is a discreet IP so guest stars might be a bit tacky, but costumes? That's an arm of a different color!

[@nintendoforecast]

Ultrahand costume would be cool!

[@hellsong23]

God there is so much creativity in Arms! I might have to revisit it, forgot how feel good it was.

[@PolitiClank]

I believe a potential Arms 2 would follow in the footsteps of the Like a Dragon series in the west; until recently, Like a Dragon was known as Yakuza internationally so to unify the branding when the series started gaining popularity, they named the second most recent title "Yakuza: Like a Dragon" to familiarise western audiences with the Japanese name before naming the most recent game "Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth" everywhere. Similarly, if ARMS 2 uses a more distinctive subtitle and reaches broader success, the next game could eschew the ARMS title in favour of a more marketable name for subsequent releases if the series finds it's feet.

[@BBWahoo]

Open ARMS: Tonight we Fight for our Right

[@vianabdullah2837]

Perhaps a problem with ARMS is that it was a bit unclear whether it was positioned as a "core audience" title or a blue ocean game. Since a lot of the marketing played up the usage of the joy cons in gameplay.

[@dannybright8708]

I have a strong feeling that an Indian character is going to be introduced to Arms next, as India is THE largest diaspora in the world (and soon to be most populous country on Earth) and there are multiple Hindu deities with large amounts of limbs. I don’t think they’ll base this character directly on someone like Shiva, Vishnu or Ganesha as it may come across as offensive, but an Indian character who has a gimmick of four arms sounds plausible.

[@Owen_005]

Arms had tough competition back in 2017 and I’m surprised that a sequel didn’t happen in the last couple years since it could’ve been a decent time to see if arms could do better without that competition and a bit more brand power

[@matheusgenaro]

This is a separate discussion, but my personal conspiracy theory on why something like Arms was not revived during Switch's lifetime is the Switch Lite. I think around the time the Lite model was being developed, Nintendo began to give less focus to Joy con features such as motion controls. I think one of the reasons something like Mario Odyssey 2 wasn't made for instance is because of the joy con use to control Cappy (naturally you can always use standard controls, but even in that game this was not recommended). However, once the Lite model launched, its adoption wasn't that widespread as I think Nintendo imagined. In five years, Switch Lite sold 24.37M units... below the 26.83M sales of the more expensive OLED model (in only 3 years). This is also why games such as Switch Sports, Wario Ware move it and Mario Party Jamboree returned to being joy con oriented, all launching in this "second half" of Switch's life.

[@RakastanPorkkanakakkua]

I think the main problem with ARMS's lack of everlasting presence was two core issues. Multiplayer focus and Motion controls (despite the game having normal controls, the marketing material didn't mention it and people just assumed it's motion controls).

[@TheDuzx]

I think these are good points. I think a good single player campaign would have made the game more appealing, but if they want to make the game more fitness oriented then this might happen in the sequel. Also I have seen a lot of complaints about the accuracy of the motion controls for all the games that used it on the Switch so I definitly do think that is something Nintendo would want to adress with the Joy-con2. A lot of motion control games did do really well on the Switch despite the complaints so I think Nintendo would see improved motion controls as a worthwhile investment.

[@Neoxon619]

Splatoon made it clear that you could play without motion controls, so making that more obvious in the marketing could help. Having that be made aware upfront could let more people jump in, experiment with the motion controls, and maybe stick with them. That’s how Splatoon ended up having a majority of its players use gyro.

[@Pheicou]

I think adding some kind of lore via cutscenes with actual voice acting for every character or newcomer the same way Overwatch and other hero shooters do it could make the roster more memorable.

[@samuelrobertsdesign]

You joke about adding a dog to the sequel but the Luigi's Mansion, Pikmin, and Yoshi franchises would suggest that idea is very much not out of the question for Nintendo, lol

[@BrainWasherAttendent]

ARMS deserved better!

[@cyberfilmproductions8987]

I had fun playing ARMS when it was free for limited time, but I'm not willing to spend $60 on it.

[@adamgregory0343]

I really fell in love with ARMS' aesthetic, world, and characters, and thought it was a pretty fun game for what it was, so to see it not really get much love from fans or even Nintendo themselves was disappointment. I would definitely be down for a sequel on Switch 2, especially one that expands what they had there. One idea I had to get more eyes on it was to maybe include guest characters from Punch Out as down-the-line updates or DLC at least, maybe base game wouldn't be the best idea. It doesn't seem like they're interested in doing anything else with the IP and I think the two games would be a good fit alongside each other, since they're both basically just cartoonishly exaggerated boxing.

[@TheDuzx]

Leg strap isn't a bad idea. I also don't think Nintendo wants people to do kicks in their home both because of the risk and because the franchise is named Arms, but they could incorporate it into doding and maybe even other movement. It would make it much more of a workout game and with how popular workout games have been on the Switch (Ring fit, three Fitness boxing games, even jump rope) I think this could be very interesting to them to make the sequel even more fitness oriented. One of the complaints I've seen is that the joy-cons weren't accurate enough so it's possible that Arms 2 has just been waiting for the Joy-con 2 because they wanted more accuracy for a better player experience.

[@CheeseTooth]

I understood that a talking sock reference

[@mr.random3943]

There is a rumor from a "chinese insider", that the Arms Team is developing a Custom Robo sequel (instead?). But I'd take this one with a giant grain of salt.

[@Team-Eclipse6024]

I would personally reach deep into the salt seller to grab a large handful.

[@mr.random3943]

@Team-Eclipse6024 This leak is allegedly from someone with access to a Switch 2 Dev-Kit. I think the “Chinese insider” part is fine. There are enough credible leaks from China that I don't doubt it on account of that. The thing that baffles me is how one would know this from the dev kits, as if there are assets from all sorts of games under current development just floating around on these things that some random indie developer can just see them. Then also, Custom Robo is not exactly at the forefront of the zeitgeist of gaming. This could maybe be a thing if it is a smaller scoped title developed on the Side (that game is not that dissimilar To ARMS tbf), but I don't know how thinly stretched the resources are at EPD 9, since they are also the Mario Kart devs.

[@andrewgarrison3331]

There's a constant conversation about changing the genre of ARMS 2 in order to appeal to a wider range of consumers, but there's something disappointing to me in the idea of removing the inherent fighting game from ARMS. As was stated in the video, changing up the gameplay is a strong possibility, but ARMS shines for the way its characters mesh with the combat, and I would much rather they refine what they've created than change direction altogether. I sincerely hope we do get a sequel regardless.

[@nintendoforecast]

This is a good point and Nintendo can be quite stubborn in terms of keeping franchises true to their roots even in the face of low sales. Hmm.

[@TimBartja]

I'm totally here for an ARMS sequel; to this day, it's my 4th most played game on my Switch. In terms of single player adventure, I always imagined it taking the route of stages acting a bit like a rails shooter, essentially dialing 'skill shot' mode up to 11 while walking up the streets to your next fight. In terms of innovation, I think they would do something to further the focus of customization rather than adding on overly game changing mechanics - even if it's mostly aesthetics. Toss in/replace a few ARMS attributes, maybe tweak how rushes work, and I think that would suffice with the expected additions of characters/ARMS.

[@BrettWils]

I've been sayin that an ARMS 2 is inevitable for a hot minute now, it just never made sense for the Switch 1 because traditionally fighting games (Tekken, Street Fighter (Yeah I know not Nintendo but Smash sure is)) are generational and typically get one main release per console. ARMS is guaranteed to come back with a game leap similar to Splatoon to Splatoon 2 EZ

[@lilisaur]

One way to resurrect ARMS may be to make another production run of carts. Almost immediately after the June Direct, when Metroid Prime 4 Beyond was revealed, Nintendo made another production run of Metroid Prime Remastered to restock retail stores and this seems to have boosted interest in both games a fair bit. Reintroducing the long-sold-out ARMS to retailers would at least get the casual gamer perusing shelves to recognize the game and either show more interest in an ARMS 2, or even pick up the game to try it themselves. They should also be pushing the ARMS demo more, perhaps with a subtly placed article on Nintendo News or within their email.

[@tuskoub]

13:33 I can’t hear you say Fundamental anymore without immediately thinking of you quoting Bob Hoskins

[@Wiziliz]

"Are you making something new? Are you making something different? Are you making something unique which hasn't been seen before?" Splatoon 3 whistling in the corner

[@wootmasterzorsx]

9:11 “Kicking!? I wanna do some kicking!” -Patrick Star, September 7th, 2001 and ARMS 2 fans, March 17th, 2027 But for serious, I can’t claim to know what would be the sauce that would sell ARMS 2, but having a single player mode that gives some kind of story for these characters is a must for me personally. I hate when you have a great cast of character designs like ARMS, Overwatch, TF2, and all the good story stuff for the characters is in outside material. Also, for guest characters- my boy Lanky Kong. His whole thing is stretchy arms. Also, if you want a big, outside games character, Luffy from One Piece comes to mind,

[@hahani17]

This isn't to say that I don't believe that it's going to happen anyway, but I feel another, maybe even the main thing Arms has going against it is its age, and the public reception that followed. By that I mean that, since Arms launched so close to the Switch's release, the relative radio silence that followed after the updates were wrapped up kinda just made people assume that it had been a failure when all of Nintendo's mainstay IPs were getting their own titles, sometimes even multiple. ESPECIALLY Splatoon 2 getting its own sequel in the form of Splatoon 3 didn't help things out in that department. (That's just my interpretation of the situation though) Then again, maybe public perception alone isn't enough to discourage Nintendo from releasing a sequel. After all, your average consumer probably isn't thinking "Man, they really did Arms dirty" every other day.

[@firepoisonsteel]

Glad you mentioned A Talking Sock, great channel

[@EnigmaticGentleman]

To be honest I think it'd likely be a budget title, sales are definitely good enough but the wider market still has to be convinced in order for Arms to truly become a healthy IP (by Nintendo standards at least)

[@SupriceSupplies]

For a while I've thought of a return of ARMS not as a live-service, PvP game, but moreso as a beat-em-up, or something in that direction. Maybe they could incorporate ideas from that cancelled comic for a story mode? (Well, depending on what kind of story they were planning.) Using the different arm equipments for different strategies, like one set being more suited for dealing with mobs of enemies while another's more suited for one-on-one encounters or bosses? Part of me is also hesitant as to how viable a new PvP ARMS is commercially, as I'm rather pessimistic in regards to how many people would be interested in another game like the original. It was fresh, new, and perfectly slotted within the first half year of the switch's life when there weren't that many other games. But I could see Nintendo either being content with Splatoon as its main PvP IP, or trying a new IP altogether to fill in that slot the original ARMS did nearly eight years ago.

[@1originalaccountname]

I think a good time for an Arms 2 would be relatively early in the systems life, but not during the launch window. Something like a Summer 2026, Spring /Summer of 2027 makes the most sense to me.

[@HenrikoMagnifico]

I love the Arms idea but I really hope they take it in a different direction. Perhaps as a single player story mode focused game?

[@Pyrple]

I'm still not over springman not getting into smash 😭

[@Neoxon619]

He just didn't resonate as well with folks as Min Min, Twintelle (in the West), or Ninjara (in Japan).

[@shingi70]

Biggest difference with arms having a guest versus other Nintendo IP is guests have become so common place in fighting games now.

[@minecrafter3448]

12:34 you haven’t made a joke this good since the “hostile takeover defense strategy” one

[@nintendoforecast]

Thanks! (And I don't even remember that one!)

[@minecrafter3448]

@ I’ll try to find which one it was

[@minecrafter3448]

@ I misremembered what the joke was, it was from “Nintendo’s annual general meeting - the takeaways” at 6:47

[@ReveriePass]

When I went to the store to buy this game, my cars battery died completely and I had to install a new one to drive home

[@randomguy970]

I would really love a proper sequel to Arms with a core single player mode. I think the franchise has great potential. If anything, this (and animal crossing) was the game nintendo needed to support with small but consistent DLC and events. Arms could basically become a live service style hero shooter like game for them (but very much not with the monetisation practices of those games).

[@NoxideActive]

I've thought about how an arm sequel could be developed and I think the natural evolution to the fighting game would be a hero arena fighter that uses the players arms to travelers, swing and sling across more complex stages as they fight. And it wouldn't just be 1v1 or even 2v2, it could be an arena fighter that goes up to 6 players either in teams or free for all.

[@_e1i]

Their arms being springs always hit an unintentional body horror vibe for me, very unnerving. Plus the one time I played it (at a friends house) it gave me the sensation of trying to throw a punch underwater. This is one Nintendo IP that can stay dormant for all I care. 😂

[@HaruVibes_]

Will forever stand by ARMs. Still one of the best looking games on switch.

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

Heres a dumb idea... Since Nintendo rarely uses numbered sequels... A.R.M.S. & L.E.G.S.

[@Legless1HitWonder]

Something big they can add is a career mode with a create-a-character system.

[@extremepayne]

An arms singleplayer mode that’s more of a character action game with arms controls than a fighting game could be interesting

[@thespeedyyoshi]

ARM2 I think would be a perfect title for a sequel

[@_sparrowhawk]

I love the idea of a 2play co-op beat em up game with arms characters (a coop FPS)

[@cyberfilmproductions8987]

Having a lot more sport options than just fighting and giving the players more freedom with the physics would be cool.

[@blackcatbooks64]

Throw your ARMS into the air! I'm pumped!

[@paulgaston]

I think I'd be worried about that particular EPD team if they took ten years to do their next Console Mario Kart AND ten years to give their most recent new IP a sequel. You'd think they'd be able to get new content out more quickly given all the money Mario Kart 8 makes. I also think while the motion controls probably aren't going anywhere, the button controls were just as good for playing the game so I don't think they'd add anything so complicated it wouldn't work just as well in both control schemes. More characters and deeper modes makes sense though.

[@nintendoforecast]

They're more prolific than this gives them credit for. They did Deluxe and Arms for 2017 and Tour for 2019. If they started work on the next Mario Kart right after dropping Tour, it's barely over five years which seems reasonable for such a massive sequel. And in recent years they worked on the Booster Course Pass, quite possibly the Mario Kart ride at Super Nintendo World since then and for all we know have a second, original IP game in the works as they did for the 3DS and Switch launches.

[@olimar_09]

Brilliant video! I've been thinking for a while about how ARMS could maybe take a slight directional shift in the future to try and capture wider audiences, and I think your idea about bringing in a "game-change character" paired with this could really help the series take off. For the record, I think the best way for them to take the series would be a more fitness-oriented approach. Still casual - not nearly to the same extent as something like Ring Fit mind you, but I think it would be great if they could take some notes from the Fitness Boxing series and maybe implement some kind of rhythm-based combo system with an emphasis on motion control, maybe using a leg strap for movement as well. A true(ish) fitness-based fighting game just sounds wayy too fun to pass up on. And the game-change character would be an excellent addition if this idea were the case! I can easily imagine some kind of fitness trainer character becoming the new poster child for the IP overnight, god rest Spring Man's soul.

[@nintendoforecast]

I think moving into Fitness Boxing territory is a great idea.

[@malo932]

One of my favoirite Switch games

[@Neoxon619]

I’m surprised you didn’t use Twintelle in the thumbnail since she’s the 2nd most popular ARMS character behind only Min Min, though Japan is her main weak point (where Ninjara is #2). But yeah, putting Min Min & Twintelle on the cover as the new faces of ARMS can go a long way. Though they also need more depth with the gameplay & meaty single-player content along the lines of SF6’s World Tour mode.

[@TheDuzx]

I definitly think Min min would make the cut, but often on the covers/banners you'll see the new things get a lot of focus. So I think it's more likely that it would be 2-3 new characters and Min min on the cover

[@Neoxon619]

@@TheDuzx I could see either a mix of old and new like you suggested or they double down on the new like SF6 did.

[@moonwarrior3342]

I don't think Nintendo should try to force either Min Min nor Twintelle as the new face of ARMS. Cause you'd wind up with the same severe problem that Darkstalkers has faced for years and one major factor of why that series will never come back due to the severe lack of an actual community that is willing to show support for a series. ( Cause let's be real here, Darkstalkers fans are nothing but hapless gooner elitists that love to talk about their precious bimbos, but never lay a damn finger on the games. ) Doing that would cause ARMS to die out in the long run and would be nothing but Smash Bros folder material at that point.

[@TheDuzx]

@@moonwarrior3342 Next you're going to tell me Animal Crossing became a gooner game when they introduced Isabelle. It still has a majority female audience. People draw her like that because that's literally one of the rules of the internet.

[@moonwarrior3342]

@@TheDuzx You're really missing the entire point here, especially if you're trying to compare ARMS with Animal Crossing of all things. Because there's already a massive can of worms if we'd talk about certain furries with their love for Issabelle or others from Animal Crossing through out the years. Don't underestimate fighting game coomers.

[@DANCERcow]

Since they already used the plural form of arm with arms, the sequel should be titled either Armed or Arm!

[@M567dk]

Sometimes it would be nice to not have everything so different when it comes to Nintendo and their games. Sometimes it would be nice to have a continuation of the gameplay of old not just storytelling change alone.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

I would say Springman is fine as the protagonist. He represents the kind of poster character archetype most fighting games utilize and there is a bit of intrigue in regards to his potential connections to Max Brass as well as his overall personality being very fitting for the role. MinMin's the most popular (and my favorite even though im a ribbon girl player) but its not uncommon for the most popular character in a fighting game series to not be the protagonist. Or to put it in more relatable Nintendo fan terms, "how many ppl playing Mario Kart actually have Mario as their favorite?" Kinda scenario lol. As for modes, I don't think they need to do a huge story centric single player campaign like Splatoon does. That's one critique since day one i was always against. I think they're fine following the standard arcade mode format grand prix has, just gotta beef up the grand prix's offerings. Like intro and ending cinematics unique to each character, unique rival battles amongst the cast, all while still fitting in Biff's commentary or Dr. Coyle's unique intel when playing as her. That kind of thing. And of course just more side modes, i enjoy what's there just wouldn't hurt giving folks more to do. I think also alternate costumes you can unlock for the characters would be a nice goal, helps that the roster isn't HUGE, i figure everyone from game 1 will return and not a crazy number of newcomers in a sequel. But we'll see.

[@colororb4105]

I have a hard time believing that Nintendo hasn't killed ARMS. They didn't even release the ARMS comic book even though it was at least mostly complete

[@chao3948]

3:46 lol he needs to see this

[@ATalkingSock]

Seen

[@chao3948]

@@ATalkingSock holy shit lol

[@jacksonlovesnintendo]

I love everything about ARMS except playing it lol I would be okay if they radically changed the gameplay from motion-based to standard controls, made it faster, gave the stages more gimmicks, and a genuine single-player (I think something like Melee’s adventure mode with branching paths and unique rivals mixed with some mini-games would be epic).

[@WarrenGdog28]

Arms and Legs would be the title in pt2😊

[@Goolix_Aero]

There's already a dog in Arms. How about a new single player crime-stopping campaign called The Long ARMS of the Law, starring Byte & Barq?

[@nintendoforecast]

Oh wow, how could I forget Barq? But yes, that's an amazing idea!

[@rzbOwO]

Arms 2 in 2028/2029 seems very likely, i doubt Nintendo would leave all of these characters behind, its the perfect opportunity to expand their roster of beloved characters, the designs in Arms are very well made.

[@quillion3rdoption]

Continuing Arms as a franchise would be a giant waste of resources tbh. Let it remain a one-shot and let Nintendo try again on a major new IP.

[@rickster008]

I love ARMS , im all for Arms 2

[@madnessarcade7447]

Def being worked on for the next system

[@PikaPhantomVG]

Depends. They're probably focused mainly on Mario Kart, and if they have anything else coming, it might be them picking Nintendogs back up given the reports of the successor having a microphone again. But Nintendogs could also be shifted over to EPD 4 since it fits with their output. It's also being rumored that Nintendo is bringing the Custom Robo IP in-house under the ARMS team, though I'm definitely skeptical of that claim.

[@Killbill1933]

Arms 2 needs a singleplayer Modus.

[@PipS03]

Just please call it ARMS Extended

[@SG64YT]

hey nintendo forecast, whats the chances that we might get a sequel to kirby forgotten land for switch 2?

[@nintendoforecast]

Not sure about a direct sequel - I know they did Return to Dreamland but how many Kirbys had a sequel? Another 3D game though seems hugely likely given the success of this one and the fact that they can leverage their back catalogue of 2D titles to remake to fill that niche.

[@samuelturner6076]

I have nothing against ARMS, but in the likely case we see an ARMS 2 before another rhythm heaven I'm going to be a bit sad.

[@naugahydeboneproject8892]

Loved arms. The problem with arms was ranked mode wasn’t the focus of Nintendo. Party mode was highlighted. This was the worst mode and made ranked mode less emphasized. Focus more on ranked mode and the problem is solved.

[@chiavue3333]

IMO Rogersbase post about arms sale is kinda insufficient considering it released on the switch nintendo best selling home console, whereas the original metroid prime did not if it was today it would of outsold it just like dread

[@Zakster10]

Im all arms, I mean ears.

[@zeldasmash8390]

Do you think Arms replaced Punch Out?

[@nintendoforecast]

There's a report currently, based on a drunken discussion with an NLG dev, that Punch Out led to a surprisingly negative reaction for its caricatures and Nintendo felt burned. If this is the case, and knowing that they do like to reuse concepts, it would make sense of Arms kind of stepped into the same space. Mind you, it didn't stop them putting previous games on NSO so who knows.

[@zeldasmash8390]

@nintendoforecast Yeah, Punch Out feels like a limited series. I do think that the next game from Next Level is non-Mario related. Thanks for your opinion.

[@PikaPhantomVG]

​@nintendoforecast It also didn't stop the ARMS team from considering Punch-Out characters for the game, as mentioned by Yabuki in an interview with Polygon (they didn't go through with it because they thought it'd alienate Punch-Out fans and newcomers alike) or the Wii Punch-Out from being one of the few Nintendo games to get an Nvidia Shield port in China.

[@fgfhjfhjfbhfghf5771]

I played one of the online demos for arms and it honestly it was just a boring game. I think the problem is that it kinda just felt like a new IP for the sake of making a new IP rather than anything someone particularly wanted to make. I'll just say I don't think its a coincidence that outside of a few exceptions like Kirby or Xenoblade almost successful every attempt at introducing a new Nintendo IP has done something that wasn't possible on previous hardware. Later NES IPs in Zelda, Metroid and even Fire Emblem were large scale adventures that made use of more space then the early NES titles had access to. F-Zero was the perfection of an illusion of 3D that previously had mixed results in games like Mach Rider. Mario Kart took what F-Zero started and made it more party focused. Star Fox used real polygons for a more natural experience then games like Space Harrier and After Burn. Pokemon used portability to add a social element to the experience. Pikmin was built on having dozens of characters working at once. Splatoon's ink mechanic would be too taxing for the Wii to do while playing online with 8 people. By comparison Arms isn't really doing anything like that, its motion controls are nothing we didn't see in the Wii era and 1v1 fighting in a small arena would be nothing special even on N64

[@TonyDaExpert]

Okay but we really need a new mariokart

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

I put over 200 hours into this game in 2017 because it was the only game my brother and I had on the switch for months hahahaha. And honestly, this game was middling at best. Really shallow gameplay, hardly any content

[@CaptainFalcon333]

Don't you mean Legs?

[@CBMX_GAMING]

I view Arms a lot like a game such as Codename S.T.E.A.M. May be a quality product on a technical level, but it just didn't hook into fans for one reason or another. For me personally, the designs and gameplay were not as immediately understandable or charming as Splatoon. And the game feels like it has an identity crisis- it's marketed like a casual fighting game but with more obscure mechanics that would make it awkward to play with non-gamers. At least that's the way I see it.

[@Kenny-the-Platypus]

But nobody's really up in Arms...

[@blar3499]

hear me out: Punchout X ARMS it crosses over the gameplay of both games and gives the punchout characters new arms-ified designs and a new campaign mode

[@HenrikoMagnifico]

Showing the pooch > the decline of the franchise. Every time!

[@chrisbarnes3660]

First time ever first comment!! I hope Arms does make a comeback I really enjoyed it

[@TheSpeedfoever]

I'm here early!

[@one_step_sideways]

Is it? IS IT? Literally who cares about ARMS 2 or these hour-long type of videogames "essays"? Do you understand how silly these titles look like when they get recommended? Imagine someone barely holding on in the middle of a warzone, and _this_ is what gets recommended. I hate the antichrist so much it's unreal. 2025 off to a fantastic start. I cannot wait for Cocomelon Expanded Universe to be taught in our public schools as an epic in the same hall of fame as Odyssey, War and Peace, Crime and Punishment and "Everything you should know about Marvel Cinematic Universe".

[@Goolix_Aero]

chill buddy

[@retroman3960]

If they ever make an ARMS 2, I hope they give the female characters, including Twintelle, skimpier outfits, like maybe leotards or the like.

[@HoboWithAShotgun]

Haven't watched yet but i hope they abandon the series. Its not bad, but it doesn't have the gameplay or characters to make it interesting enough

[@BotsandMagic]

Spoilers the youtuber just theorizes about a future arms releae that will never happen. Waste of time don't watch

[@amadeus.7436]

I personally don't think an ARMS 2 is close, if it's even happening at all. Nintendo is aware that the only reason it sold well was due to it being a new IP and being one of few new 1st-party games in the Switch's launch window. People just weren't very interested in it based on its gameplay aspects. Min Min getting into Smash was because they already planned it beforehand but ran out of time. Nintendo also cancelled the ARMS manga which tells me they have little confidence in the name, in comparison to Astral Chain where they went out of their way to buy the IP rights.

[@Neoxon619]

Fighters Pass 2 wasn’t greenlit until June 2019, & ARMS actually sold more than Astral Chain. Plus the graphic novel was gonna focus hard on Spring Man, who Nintendo kinda moved away from. If ARMS really was deemed a failure, they wouldn’t have bothered with Min Min in Smash at all. EPD franchisees have continued with fewer sales, just ask Pikmin.

[@shulkash8799]

@@Neoxon619I won’t say that Nintendo moved away from Springman, seeing he has the most lore and history within arms, Nintendo probably decided not to make the graphic novel, because of wanting to have more control over the story for the future.

[@Neoxon619]

@@shulkash8799 I meant that in the sense of Nintendo wanting to give people treatment to everyone as opposed to having a laser focus on one protagonist.

[@amadeus.7436]

@Neoxon619 I don't think it's that simple. Surely Nintendo would've told Sakurai that they wanted an ARMS fighter in Smash when they noticed that its game was proceeding well, (in 2016-2017) but then Sakurai would've told them there wasn't enough time and it was put on ice for a while. While Fighters Pass 2 was officially greenlit in 2019 I feel confident in saying it was almost fully planned even before Ultimate released. Both Steve and Sora had been in negotiations for a long long time, and many other characters had been considered in either Smash 4 or base game Ultimate. They weren't just going to scrap all of it, unless the game sold like crap. I don't know where you get this idea that they "moved away" from Spring Man. The only notable thing that's happened to the ARMS franchise after the game's release is Min Min getting into Smash and that's because most other fighters would've been very limited in their moveset, plus that the director of ARMS himself asked for it. While no reason was given for the manga's cancellation I doubt that was the one. My guess is they noticed that over time, after delaying it over and over, that the ARMS fanbase wasn't big or enthusiastic enough to warrant it. And as I said, I think Nintendo is aware of the reason why ARMS sold well. If it had released in 2019 as well I believe it would've sold much more poorly. All in all, I simply disagree.

[@Neoxon619]

⁠@@amadeus.7436 Regarding Smash, they would’ve done her in the first season of DLC if what you’re saying was the case. But when the game was originally released, they only had one season of DLC planned. It was when the second season was approved that Nintendo sent requests for five of the six games/franchises that were represented (Sora was added last-minute, as negotiations went somewhere as of TGS 2019 according to Sakurai). So yeah, Nintendo could’ve easily just not bothered asking for an ARMS character at all if what you said is true. But that clearly wasn’t the case. And typically with franchises that sell in this caliber, it takes someone with a decent amount of clout at Nintendo to keep it pushing. Pikmin has Miyamoto, Metroid has Sakamoto, & ARMS has Yabuki.

[@shanesimons8987]

I really hope this doesn’t get a sequel, didn’t enjoy it at all..

[@Level_Eleven]

Please no

[@cyxceven]

I like the idea of crossover characters. Arms x Punch Out.

[@GamesAndAnimes]

A new Arms game need more singleplayer content and added more interesting to the fighting system, like more movement, defends and attack tools. Arms is fun, but also so shallow on the system. Fighting become very fast very repetitive.