IT SUCKS | Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero

[@YungandRekless545]

I don't want any more transformations from this series, just fun storytelling.

[@theredheadhenry]

Can we get an amen on this.

[@balldeep69hardcoregamer50]

@@theredheadhenry Amen.

[@mojonoahgamer5647]

@@theredheadhenry Amen

[@selfloathinggivesmelife7810]

Toei: "No transformations?! B-but...how will we make money?"

[@theredheadhenry]

@@selfloathinggivesmelife7810 write good stories.

[@G1sandG1rlsGaming]

It's weird to me how piccolo making a wish for more power feels more deserved than the power up Gohan got in this film. Like at least Piccolo's made more sense as he's just unleashing his potential, but Gohan......You're really telling me that you barely trained and all you had to do was get mad and you would have become the strongest in the Universe? Like really? If you're a Gohan fan and this didn't bother you then you are fine with anything Dragon ball and don't care if these people fight literal potatoes.

[@theredheadhenry]

The next movie we may as well make a wish to make Tien, Yamcha, Krillin and Chaozu relevant again. Hell- may as well go for 18 and Buu while we are at it… Fuck it. Chi-Chi, Bulma, Puar, and Yajarobi should get power ups too so they can all be fighters on the battlefield. This way Chi-Chi can scold Goku both on and off the battlefield.

[@G1sandG1rlsGaming]

@@theredheadhenry its funny that you say that because I actually love the reincarnated as Yamcha story. The thing about that though is that the writer understood the limitations of the character within the dragon ball franchise. So even though Yamcha became more awesome, when it got to the Cell Saga that was pretty much it for the character as there is no reasonable way he could have contributed without it coming off as unrealistic within the worlds established rules. I really think toriyama needs to take a step to the side and allow someone to write the story based off the original lore. Super needs to end and a new timeline needs to take place.

[@padraig-bobotia-maria5176]

stop the stupidity, try watching the film and paying attention or just stick to your deluded bitter opinion.

[@Jarjarken97]

I’m pretty sure that’s what happened when goku first turned super saiyan he got mad that frieza killed his freind

[@G1sandG1rlsGaming]

@@Jarjarken97 Yes, but what I'm saying is, why have anger be the trigger still? Why was the entire world having already been killed, his family eaten in front of him all while being mocked and beaten not enough to cause this form to trigger, but seeing piccolo get beaten is? We already did this song and dance with Gohan. Either have him train and earn the power like the rest or make him a side character permanently.

[@SonGoku-ep4wj]

no one is talking about how gohan never trained for his new form he just screamed for no reason and became allegedly as powerful as mui because ? well I don't know because fanboys will eat anything u throw at them there is no build up no serious training all forms lost their charms anyone now can become stronger than Zeno is toroyima decides so for more money from brainless fanboys

[@padraig-bobotia-maria5176]

Why would they when he did? Its even stated in the film, but for a brainless goku fanboy this must really hurt 😂

[@BlankXInfinity]

Piccolo never died from his injuries either. :v

[@yderga8707]

Gohan when the universe is ending and his Wife and Daughter could be wiped from existence: 😴 Gohan when his daughter is abducted by Red Ribbon: 😴 Gohan when Piccolo gets punched in the gut for the 1,209,703rd time in the series: 😯🥺😤😡

[@godzillagurus576]

@@padraig-bobotia-maria5176 Do you any have argument other than saying “gOkU FaNbOy” Idiot

[@godzillagurus576]

@@yderga8707Gohan in nutshell:

[@juanma250297]

I’m not a fan of Gohan’s new form, looks silly, like something pulled out straight out of Dragon Ball AF

[@OGPepsiman]

Gohan Blanco meme became canon, now we just wait for El Hermano, cuz at this point, this entire series is a meme. Scaling is out of proportion and isn’t consist, characters that get shown once or twice that would be better, characters that have been around that get thrown under the bus... Fans always do it better, I say.

[@juanma250297]

@@OGPepsiman this form isn’t even white, it’s grey or silverish with red eyes

[@OGPepsiman]

@@juanma250297 I know, but everybody callin’ it Gohan Blanco because its very close.

[@michaelfr6290]

@@juanma250297 there is a form in a fan series called DB gohanverse that came out about when broly came. It's called El Blanco and look's the exact same as beast mode, Even achieved in a similar way.

[@Asupernaruto1]

a rip off fan made transformation dude 🤦‍♂️

[@cristian99143]

I'm fucking done with Dragon Ball after watching this shitload movie. I've been a fan of the franchise for about 25 years. Super Hero is a disgrace, and it's confirming that Dragon Ball will keep it that way for a long time: bullshit transformations and power ups, lame characters who look like anything but fighters, poor writing overall, a defiance of all logic (Shenron making Piccolo stronger after an "upgrade" is one example, as they could have done it so many times before instead of letting fighters train their shit out), etc. Should I speak about the ruining of Goku's character as well? Go home, Dragon Ball Super, you're drunk!

[@withersz16]

Same bro. I was done a long time ago

[@ashpro4826]

I lost interest in Dragon ball super from the moment they decided to include resurection of F into the series.

[@schris3]

X2, I came with low expectations, but they went even lower, the Gamma androids were the only salvageable things about the movie for me, and you know is really bad when they make Cell go full Bio Broly and that fat Gotenks stay through the duration of the fight instead of being just a simple gag that shouldn't have gone further than a minute.

[@ghastlyghost2542]

You’re a goofy ahh dragon ball fan. Stay in the past lol, we don’t need “fans” like you

[@kerotamahirome7869]

It was really bad tbh anything I rate a 7 is just crap I absolutely disliked most of it and cringed during it alot mostly because it's 3D though the storyline was for kids

[@ZackeryBackery]

Hated 4 things 1. Gohans new transformation feels undeserved and cheap... It was pulled out of thin air for plot convenience (the design is bad too) 2. Major contradictions... Multiple times characters portrayed unbelievable and out of character actions eg goku seemingly even more brain dead, Gohan slacking of on his training despite promesing to never do it again in super etc 3. Broly was said to be in the movie... And to be fair he was......... For about 30 seconds, if I'm promised Broly I want to see him fight I want to see him be awesome, but Broly was barely a feature 4. This is just a personal opinion. As much as I thought I was tired of seeing Goku save the day time and time again... Gohan doing it didn't feel right to me, I like Gohan but I personally believe hes a flat character as compared to goku or vegeta..he doesn't have that wow factor anymore. I think this movie would have been better if goku or vegeta took the lead. Little annoyances/ cell max was a terrible final villain, I was lead to believe that he was supposed to be better than cell original. Giant battles against smaller enemies aren't endgame material, norebhow the highlight of goku VS vegeta wasn't when vegeta went great ape Trunks and goku finally grew up only to do nothing but try to be funny I guess. Bulmas use of the dragon balls Ending the fight with a special beam cannon of all moves, I get piccolo is Gohans master but I think it's tradition at this point to end the battle with a full power Kamehameha... It just sound better Gohan beast is a dumb name for a transformation and it make no sense in what it is... Is it a variant of super saiyin 2? Or a mix of potential unless and super saiyin 2 As bad as the transformation was it didn't feature longer than 10 minutes which is kind of a let down Final problem if you got this far.......... The power scaling of dragon ball has been messed up since the frieza arc but this movie messed it up to an unimaginable degree.... Cell max is said to be the strongest foe ever faced from the z fighters I'll assume this excludes beerus... But that still implies that cell max was stronger than the like of jiren and broly!? This I find very difficult to believe because that would mean Gohan is now stronger than ultra ego and ultra instinct goku and more... Also this would mean piccolo is now on oar with goku and vegetal which is also hard to believe Yeah I think I'm done now the rest are all just small complaints (which there are many).. Maybe I was in the wrong for being so critical towards the movie, it seems to be targeting a younger audience but still this is cannon so I'm annoyed

[@GeteMachine]

I hated it too. Nor do I know why he needed a white haired recolor of his SS2 Teen design, instead of just him being ultimate gohan.

[@windows98alpha35]

Not surprising. SaiyanScholar covered this movie’s pathetic failure quite well. The thing I hate the most is that because these directors suck at their jobs now we’ll never get another Gohan/Piccolo movie cause’ it didn’t make much money.

[@joshjimmykurian6185]

They ruined everything through the trailer .they should have kept the transformation part and everything a secret. The trailer should have only showed piccolo finding red ribbon army goku and vegeta sparing and that's it . And when watch the movie in theaters it would have become a shock to everyone

[@Nappr]

I had no feelings when I saw this in the cinema. I guess I'm dead inside for DB.

[@StevenJones851]

Yeah same Dragon Ball Lost its Quality with Super

[@pt6238]

It's just rehashes of rehashes at this point.

[@StevenJones851]

@@pt6238 witch is why I'm done Watching Dragon Ball Super Forever I'll only watch the old stuff from now on sometimes

[@LeafSouls]

same here

[@Tofuey]

Gohans power up was so unearned.

[@pt6238]

Right? Owhoo child is in danger, now I can power up. How to rush a powerup.

[@rafael98super]

Dragonball needs to have its old man logan type of story, but for goku. Let them grow older, show their struggle of passing time and wrap up their journey, sideline them and make room for another character to take over or end the franchise there. What they are doing right now is Pokémon, a story stuck in a loop forever, made only to cycle older fans and new ones thus making money but never needing to risk change

[@theredheadhenry]

I 100% support and agree with this. Well said dude.

[@TheWazzoGames]

In their eyes, a new series with a new set of characters is risky, you see. Dragon Ball Super runs like clockwork on milking nostalgia. Hell, why do you think Gohan’s new form had the long bang and super spikey hair + a piccolo outfit. If I had a dollar for every nostalgia bate moment from Super, I’d be a millionaire. TL;DR - While that would be amazing, I just don’t see it happening. The closest thing we’ll probably ever get to that is Dragon Ball GT’s beautiful conclusion in “The Heroes Legacy”

[@TheWazzoGames]

Came from Killalicious’ reaction to this video. Thank you for speaking facts about this movie. No big KZbinrs will do this because they’re scared of losing subs and viewers because they hurt their feelings. The truth hurts sometimes, and thank you for spelling it out.

[@theredheadhenry]

That name sounds familiar, someone reacted to this?

[@SaiyanScholar]

Your hate has made you powerful. *Cackles*

[@theredheadhenry]

Now witness the full destructive power of this fully armed and operational battle system!

[@Unknown-pq9gc]

I stop recently watching those big KZbinrs who cover Dragon Ball all time because how much they gatekeep meaning I never seen them give any fair criticism or go in depth with the criticism in which the series deserves just praises constantly and u can tell they care more about making money instead of wanting a great series like Z was. I'm still following what happening in Super constantly but I never enjoyed myself with this series since Broly, along with base on Manga sales and this movie it's telling alot of people agree.

[@SuperSonicWarrior93]

They really got Bulma out here getting ass implants, like she’s Kim Kardashian.

[@M3rtyville]

I have been saying that since BoG. Dragon Ball has become fanfiction. Literally anything people made fun of fan wishes came true and the awfuls things they are writing. The writers of this show, not only Toriyama, have no interesting direction for Dragon Ball to take. Hence they copy from fanfiction which usually comes down in: - unoriginal power ups - repeating character arcs - flanderization - inconsistent power ups Gohan got a power nerve only to get a newer more bigger power up how many times now? And I won't be surprised if he were to lose all the power he got in this movie and needs to "train" to regain it again. Just like how Piccolo only exist to be Gohan's meatshield and Vegeta being obsessed with Goku. Not to mention Frieza returning over and over again. With Gohan Blanco they literally copied Dragon Ball shitpost... How embarrassing is it when a franchise copy stuff from a meme?

[@Ash-ep1nz]

DBZ >> DBS been saying that for years

[@godzillagurus576]

Lol even GT is better than super

[@thelegendarymarioman8461]

Gt >>>>> garbage >>> super

[@SuperSonicWarrior93]

Another thing I don’t get is, if Goku is supposed to be more powerful than Vegeta, then why the hell does he keep losing to him?

[@derek5608]

Cause vegeta has been on par with goku many times

[@ajr01-x6e]

It makes me genuinely depressed that I don't like this movie. When I really started to notice how it wasn't really impressing me I started to feel almost anxious. The tone and pacing feel totally inconsistent. One minute its fast and action filled and the next there is all this slice of life stuff. It sort of felt like it was both a filler episode and a canon episode, which is not a good combination. Piccolo didn't feel entirely like Piccolo. In fact no one really felt all the way in character because of the jarring and completely unnecessary animation style that it made it feel like I was watching Beastars. Beerus finding Cheelai attractive already doesn't seem completely right, but him actually acting different as a result like he has a real crush on her feels completely wrong for his character. The fight with Goku and Vegeta was underwhelming and you can tell it was supposed to be fan service. A lot of this movie is fan service, stale call backs, and a shameless amount of exposition. Gamma 1 and 2 feel too strong. Cell Max isn't a good character. Gamma 2 being dead and it being implied that he doesn't have a soul so that means he is completely gone is just a cruel thing to put in a story, especially in a verse where that's not what happens with most people. Whis not noticing Bulma's communication attempt because of a tub of ice cream is just plain silly and hard to believe. And considering that is sort of what allows the entire movie to even occur, it sort of ruins the entire plot's believability. Broly crying after the fight felt too comedic for his character. Also, if you're going to have Broly, BROLY, in a movie I feel like you should actually use him. If you aren't going to use him, why even have him in the movie? The entire presence of Goten, Trunks, Krillin, and 18 doesn't feel necessary. Fat Gotenks is not funny. Piccolo and Gohan's new forms feel unearned, but Gohan's is worse than Piccolo's. And speaking of Gohan. When are Gohan "fans" gonna just let Gohan be Gohan? He doesn't like to fight. Get over it. You'd think being a fan of character would mean having some kind of empathy for them, but people who claim to love Gohan seem to actually be sadistic towards him and want to put him in situations where they know he will suffer and get mad. I could probably go on but I've already probably said too much. I didn't even watch this video yet, so a lot of what I say will probably be in it too.

[@themastergames7780]

Next time on dragon ball super , rainbow gohan & purple piccolo vs lightgreen frieza .. I used to be a die hard db fan back in the days , I dont watch anime anymore dont have the time sadly to keep up with new shows & stuff but when I saw this new forms in social media I giggled "orange piccolo, gohan beast, black frieza, ssj rose , ssj blue ..." even fan fiction had better forms just sad to see db dies like this . To me the end of Z will always be canon ending . Just a super powrful goku going out to train uub no ssg no bs.

[@creategreatness8823]

I'm at a weird spot with Dragon Ball. When Star Wars started to decline horribly, I would see some fans with reactions like "well, its still fun Star Wars stuff...I don't really care about all of the details" while I would be baffled and ask how they could accept such lame storytelling and disrespect to characters and nonsense narrative building. Yet....when I sit down to watch something like Dragon Ball Super: Broly and Dragon Ball Super: Superhero...I find myself in that same position. Regardless of all of the nonsense or things that don't make sense, uneven storytelling...I can't help but enjoy it. The best of the narrative ended after the Frieza arc. For me, EVERYTHING since the Frieza arc was "just nonsense for fun" and frankly....Super is just more of that. Once you bring in time travel and make everyone a super saiyan and try to convince me that the Red Ribbon Army could make androids that far exceed the power of all of those super saiyans who exceeded the power of Frieza...who was supposed to be the ultimate power of the universe.....once you do all of that, it is all nonsense. A scenario where Frieza is made to look like a chump to buff-up Earth-Made android villains...along with time travel and 'everyone is a super saiyan and super saiyan isn't even that big of a deal' stories....then this already becomes a dead narrative. It is just a world occupied by characters you love who seek greater power and have epic fights to save the world. That has been the only goal of Dragon Ball for YEARS, long before Super was ever thought of. Power ups, mega fights, lovable characters, little else. People want to act like it all of a sudden "became bad" and "turned into nonsense" when in fact, that happened years ago during mainline Z and we all continued to go for the ride because we love the world and characters so much.

[@theredheadhenry]

Well said in this explanation.

[@ChaosBlueNathan]

Honestly, as a fan myself, it was honestly not as good as I hoped it would be when I saw the very first trailer. I'm a Dragon Ball fan myself, today's my bday, making me 20 years old. Spoiler: I have seen it on KZbin when it came out, it got taken down obviously. The two things that bothered me was Gohan's new form. It honestly never made sense to me, because Gohan stopped training both after Cell's defeat and Buu, so for him to get this form was honestly ridiculous. I mean, I'm glad that they gave Gohan some love, but at the same time they didn't really give it as well as they did when he went ssj2. The other thing was Gotenks, I was really excited to see adult Gotenks in the movie, but then we got his chubby self which made me upset. I'm glad to see Gotenks, except it's the wrong one. Despite all that, I think it's okay, not amazing, but decent for me.

[@brycenmarion146]

It did say Gohan was training in secret. You know kind of like Goku did when he went ssj2 and 3 so I mean we didn't see it but it was said

[@kidluffy4469]

@@brycenmarion146 but how can he get a new form when his potential is fully unlocked tha makes no sense he can still grow stronger but why the blanco

[@brycenmarion146]

@@kidluffy4469 I mean I don't know but I'm sure they're gonna make up some random reason but it has been said time and time again that Gohan has the most potential in all of DragonBall so it makes sense that he would be as strong if not stronger than goku and vegeta I just think they went about it the wrong way

[@jlopez240gaming7]

I agree. The movie definitely had its flaws. But I enjoyed throughly. I just wish they didn’t have to literally take the time in the movie, to make goku a fuckin idiot. I hate super goku with a passion. Expect for manga goku, he gets shit done.

[@godzillagurus576]

@@brycenmarion146 it’s practice not training

[@007odc]

Lol I don’t even like gohan but why do i feel this comment section is filled with more hate than anything…..the movie was ok, i agree with piccolo’s power up….but gohan was a extremely cheap way of giving “gohan fan service”….his character hasn’t even trained to earn that….i agree on the colors cause when piccolo named his new form “orange” i was like i love db with all my heart but they are trying to push me away with the rainbow color transformations

[@dbsplayer000]

Superhero is shit, I watched it multiple times. Gohan fans should be outraged by the forced ass-pull transformation he gets. It doesn't feel deserved, as you called out Henry. SS2 for Gohan was peak for his character. Gohan should have just remained Daddy Gohan in the show, or actually be given the time required to develop back into a badass. The quick 1+ hour movie doesn't cut it. Gohan fans are just blinded by his new shiny white hair, mostly because they have waited for so long for this moment not seeing the through the trees. This is a poor story for both Gohan and Piccolo. It's sad. BRING BACK GOOD DRAGON BALL!

[@padraig-bobotia-maria5176]

translation = 😢😢😢😢😢

[@jlopez240gaming7]

Piccolos transformation wasn’t as bad. As it made sense. Piccolo does have a close relationship with shenron. So seeing how he used him to unlock his hidden potential was an alright way to get piccolo back up with the greats.

[@theredheadhenry]

*UPDATE* If you are looking for a more in-depth explanation of my thoughts on the current run of Dragon Ball Super check here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5mum41vpatrgaM A repeat of the Cell arch by bringing back old villains and organizations, shiny new ass-pull transformations, forcing characters forgotten about to get stronger, big booty Bulma, cute Pan, 3D game style animation, lack of Goku, all of these things and more don't make up for the fact that this movie just wasn't enough to spark audiences in Japan to see it. It is the Bio-Broly of the modern day Dragon Ball Super films, it's sad. I want Dragon Ball to succeed but the revival of Dragon Ball with Super has only progressively gotten worse as time goes on. This movie, in addition to the manga and other mediums prove it. Is this the beginning of the end for Dragon Ball as it continues to be dragged through the dirt, or will our beloved series make a 180 degree turn and blast off to greatness? MAKE DRAGON BALL GREAT AGAIN!

[@OGPepsiman]

I been saying this, but ya get called a crybaby for criticizing anything because “Be glad Dragon Ball is still going.”

[@JordanWheeler1999]

i disagree to half of what you said, literally this movie is about piccolo and gohan redeeming who they are. We all know that this movie is about them. and at the end of your sentence is pretty much a two sided question. it's either you want to continue watching super or you don't? i hope you didn't take it the wrong way but we can't have a better franchise if we keep making it hard for ourselves thats what happen with the mcu and Disney starwars, Disney made the community divided. edit: i did love how it's apart of your childhood same as mine, i first got into dbz when i switch to adult swim when i was maybe in your age or even younger back then.

[@JordanWheeler1999]

@@dilynhoward1088 the super show is not good only the black arc was but the movies are good i mostly love battle of gods.

[@christopherdsuza7531]

Agree completely I don't get how people can like this dog shiet. No originality, worse then the original, worse animation, worse everything. Its just a nostalgia trip, that's all. I also agree with you on super. Its great to have more dragon ball, but we must remain critical of the medium. They need to do their own shit rather then ride the coattails of their previous success. It just seems lazy in my opinion, like a copy pasted essay. They would get a zero if this was English for plagiarization - keep in mind you can plagiarize yourself. The art work of super was also really off when it first came out...like low budget levels of bad. I think they fixed some of it but it just goes to show they kind of stopped caring at some point. Not a fan of the mr clean look neither.

[@christopherdsuza7531]

@@JordanWheeler1999 I only liked the broly movie, battle of gods was okay but nothing special. This movie on the other hand, looks bad...also fuck cgi. I think this is the first time in dragon ball history that they have so drastically changed the art styles between movies, and for the worse too. All the DBZ movies kept the same and/or a similar style....

[@S31KO.]

This movie brings out the worst of Dragon Ball since it's revival. Gohan having to have his hand held, and coddled into becoming strong, like he's 9 years old, when he's 20 something and has a child of his own is especially hilarious. Dragon Ball Heroes like asspulled transformations. A lazy recycled plot, with a lazy recycled villain(the worst one too). People saying they aren't making excuses, but blaming it on marketing just doesn't sit right with me. This thing is just not good. Hopefully with a retelling in a future possible anime they can actually tell a proper story, and build up Gohan and Piccolo. The Pan and Piccolo scenes worked for me though, that was fun, the rest bleh.

[@justsomeguy6336]

Bro Dragon Ball Heroes is a promotional anime for a video game. Stop taking it seriously. And at least it have unique stories to it.

[@jlopez240gaming7]

Hopefully if they animate this arc they can show us gohan training on the side always making sure he stayed strong after the TOP. Then this transformation wouldn’t be such an insane asspull.

[@Gregarian]

I hate the movie, I'm sorry but the moment I saw Gohan's new form in the leaks and how he achieved it I thought someone released a false video of just a repeat of ssj2 vs cell. What made it worst was seeing "Cell Max" and then realizing it wasn't fake. The red ribbon army should be extinct by now, like honestly for all they done in the past I'm surprised there isn't an active manhunt for anything remotely resembling them, so I don't understand as to how they have people still alive to make new androids/cyborgs. The power scaling in DBS is making less sense by the minute- Goku gets the power of the legendary super saiyan god, he then adds that power to his Ssj creating blue, okay. Now let's roll to the tournament of power during its recruitment phase. Half these people he's recruiting somehow went through training to keep up with his blue state or force him to jump to it. What kind of training did they do to make them close the gap by that much idk because I have not seen any of them even use the time chamber or use he deagonballs for a limit remover. The new forms are also a problem, there's way too many of them, Like I get Gohan got his potential unlocked in Dbz but at this point they are using his position as a half saiyan with his innate potential as a crutch for everytime he gets into trouble or they write themselves into a wall with a strong adversary for him. He did not deserve that beast transformation in the movie from just watching piccolo get slapped. I'm surprised he didn't get his new form the moment he heard pan was in danger. They try so hard to make him an exception to the ssj transformations but it's painfully obvious they are running out of ways to make him unique. Not to mention the other half saiyans goten and trunks are just joke characters at this point. They are the new vegeta- they rush in, get a few minutes of beating the enemy, mess up and get clapped. You would think characters who's main power comes from their fusion would learn how to manage their limited time in its state, build up their individual power to use it as a last resort (God knows how many times they have spoken about either training to get strong, wanting to come on dangerous missions or get called out for relying on fusion but in the end do nothing to improve) or learn the damned dance so they don't screw up while doing it, yes I know they are kids but at this point just give them potaro earrings if the dance is that complicated to pull off. We didn't see either goku, vegeta or gohan training in either of these forms to perfect them, it's always gotta go higher, go higher and I'm surprised they arnt running into the same problem they called out frieza on when he came with his golden frieza form, a new form with little training burning through their energy. It seems like they are moving from the characters perfecting their power, figuring out the flaws each form has and instead they are rushing the story by just handing out new forms to compensate and the explanation for these new forms is getting crappier each time. Not to mention that with each new form, we see less of the old ones. Sorry for ranting on but tbh the fan base would be happy if we saw them work for these forms or better yet master them to the point where growth is no longer possible, ssj3 is still an energy eater to this day and we haven't heard of ways goku wants to improve it.

[@jordandavilabrown294]

Honestly I've seen the "super hero" film and it sucked, from repeating past events in movies/arcs in an less exciting way to Gohan getting an ass-pull of a power up to new characters that are not interesting in the very least makes it really bad 😔.

[@Black_Knight_-BK-]

@@crimsonoutdoorsco.9640 DBS peaked after BOG tbh

[@theultimatememelord5494]

I think Super Hero may have just dethroned Ressurection F as the worst modern dragon ball movie in the eyes of the fans.

[@TheRealVincentValentine]

I think they gave Bulma a bigger cake cause they knew deep inside this was trash . I went to the theater in Cinemark lucky tickets was 5$ tho. It's bio cell the movie .

[@theredheadhenry]

Bio Cell ready for screaming.

[@isaacbell5156]

About time I found a KZbinr who actually criticized the whole thing instead of blamed marketing. I wish dragon ball KZbinrs are like you.

[@theredheadhenry]

Which KZbinrs are claiming this is a lack of promos? That's completely ridiculous, those same KZbinrs have been hyping and theorizing the movie for over a year in their videos. DBS:SH has been promoted, talked about, discussed, theorized and leaked for over a year. Dragon Ball fans knew it was coming. This attempt at trying to cover up the bad ticket sales in Japan is just a way to try and place blame by using possible very minuscule minority of potential people, "Who just so happened to be Dragon Ball Fans but NOT know this movie was coming out." Ridiculous.

[@thatguiy5558]

Yeah it's pretty nice there is also a KZbinr named emosh that talks about the same stuff

[@theunwantedsmoke260]

Couldn't agree more. I absolutely felt the graphics were done by a video game artist. They felt so artificial and polished without the grittyness you get in the anime that I actually like. Piccolo looks like he's never taken damage before in his life. They've reduced him to a nanny and the overall writing was so unoriginal for this. Let's do Red Ribbon and androids like it hasn't been worn out completely already and beef up an old villian and call it the max form. The 1 and 2 look like saiyaman's evil but equally ridiculous looking counterparts. The hair color transformation always felt lazy to me. They do Gohan even worse by keeping him look pretty much normal all the time. I still watch it cuz I love Vegeta and he is the only one with real development but definitely anything I see from them since Super started just feels like a nostalgic cash grab from a creator that just doesn't have any fresh ideas left.

[@Dante.the.inferno]

The piccolo comment has me 💀

[@andymagic2924]

I'm struggling to think of anything that I actually liked about this movie, I really like the Dragonball super series personally but this movie was absolutely terrible

[@genesismultiverse4896]

It's bvs just doesn't SUCK as hard

[@joebloggs1691]

The way both of these characters got these transformations pissed me off. Such lazy fanservice. It’s as bad or worse than the Universe 6 SSJ transformations. Piccolo really got such a MASSIVE power boost from Shenron. He could have done that in any prior saga and actually be just as powerful as the villain. And Gohan went from being completely out of practice to stronger than Goku and Vegeta in a few hours MAX. The movie started out pretty good and then it feels as though they rushed everything in the last 30 minutes. The ending scene is completely trash. Goten and Trunks fuse for absolutely no reason.

[@redblade37]

I agree and hopefully this movie doesn't become canon into the manga or anime. The new form for Gohan was a huge ass pull and hopefully in the manga he actually works up into that power. Cell max was a joke and felt like no real threat. I'm glad piccolo got a new form but I havent actually seen how he's achieved it. But that doesn't change the fact that gohan shouldnt have a form that rivals ultra instinct or ego. Really takes away from goku's and vegeta's sacrifices and adventures. honestly, should have scraped this entire movie and just made it a filler arc. Worthless money and time spent on it.

[@gamebarstequipe]

Pretty sure in the manga Gohan actually kept training after Ressurection of F arc. He even fought Kefla (she was probably weaker in the manga than the anime but still) so this version of him actually deserves it, but still, it shouldnt rivalize Goku or Vegeta

[@kidluffy4469]

@@gamebarstequipe gohan shouldnt have been able to get a new form since ultimate gohan is his peak form

[@buster3041]

@@kidluffy4469 Exceeding limits fam. Ultimate is his power brought out at the time not all the power he'll ever have.

[@kidluffy4469]

@@buster3041 elder kai brought out his full potential he shouldnt in theory beable to get another form this is pire fan survise

[@oyasumichansu]

toriyama and torotaro already said it's canon, and the movies good everyone in this comment section is an incel

[@DromusTH]

Bro red, let's not forget the part with Beerus and Cheelai, I never thought I would hate someone so bad.

[@humuhumu776]

You can literally release a "new" frieza with a different color every month and then just pick either goku or vegeta to get a stupid new meaningless transformation (that is also just a different color basically) and beat him. Dragon ball fans who still gobble this shit up are actual monkeys, you can entertain them with the same trick over and over for decades.

[@salad333]

And some big KZbinrs gave this s tier. Lol

[@jacobj3933]

The franchise has been nothing but nostalgia bait and fan service since Z ended almost a decade ago now. With Toriyama gone, it'll just be those two things. Yeah the guy already decided to keep away from it for years , but he still had some hand in what was created. Now though, DB is going to be completely corporate. You can't expect a company to create anything original. They can only repeat what the spread sheets say could make money. They brought back the red ribbon army for crying out loud. And this film is also technically canon, which whatever "qualifies" as canon, that in and of itself has been questionable due to Toe bringing out the nearly lifeless corpse of this franchise, churning out a movie to kick off a new series, never having a clear singular direction they wanted to take it, create a manga that's its own separate thing they'll say is "canon". Over all db is a mess. Super has been extremely corporate, and now that Toriyama is dead, it's going to only be corporate.

[@deadline6149]

Ngl your 5.5 feels even too high to me lmao. And gohan has always been my favorite db char. I don t even want to mention the shitshow the manga is going for.

[@josem7369]

Holy shit, Cell Max was literally worse than Bio Broly

[@theredheadhenry]

He IS Bio Broly 🤣

[@spider59er35]

I Vote for DragonBall kakumei to get an official release

[@jordanglasper1064]

Well said. It’s ironic, the worst Dragonball film today has the best action scenes we’ve ever seen to date.

[@yeetnessthegreater1298]

Biggest 🧢 I’ve seen. Nothing about this movie screams “best action scenes.”

[@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO]

This is not even on the level of shit like bio broly or metal cooler wtf are you smoking lmao

[@misterkrabs2254]

@@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO tbf metal cooler is just cool

[@dvdcopyofsharktaleVEVO]

@@misterkrabs2254 all the dbz movies have cool concepts but have you ever tried to sit through any of them recently? The only ones i consider enjoyable watching experiences are boujack unbound, fusion reborn, and the two new dragon ball super movies, path to power, and battle of gods. Maybe another movie im forgetting but theres over 20 of them now. Im a diehard dragon ball fan and realistically id sit through all of them, but to say its the worst film "today" (just noticed their grammatical error lmao) is laughable and shows that their nostalgia clouds their experiences. I love dragon ball and can sit through almost anything dragon ball related besides dragon ball heroes, and even i can admit most of the movies arent that good unless you REALLY like dragon ball.

[@MrAllBlack015]

Dragon Ball Super Broly has the best action scenes we've seen to date.

[@actingdamickey]

I saw the film. While it does intice you with the new style of animation the story and the forced plot for Piccolo and Gohan is bad. You brought up a lot of good points. I also keep seeing kids on Twitter ranting and clinging to the lack of promo excuses. It makes no sense. Super is slowly burning in a garbage, and it's depressing. I love Dragon Ball, but the content they keep officially putting out is becoming more and more sucky.

[@danm8623]

Shut up

[@danm8623]

There saving the best for later

[@danm8623]

I know they got something in the vault gotta be patient and be thank full for what we get and be glad dragon ball still alive

[@tremicecelioura8134]

​@@danm8623 not really convinced. I agree that it is good to see dragon ball continued but at which cost? 🤔. It is just like jurassic park. Sometimes it is better to let a licence "die" and offer something else. When you have told everything about a story, it is time to end it.

[@Cosmic_JC]

Oh yeah? Why don't you tell us how the movie could be better? People are complaining about power ups but no one is actually giving an idea on how to beat the villain without getting a transformation.

[@Damian-tr2qt]

I just didn’t like the fact that gohan just kept winning like I do like the fact that gohan can get super strong from his anger but I wish they did it better, at least have him start losing and then piccolo picks up pan and then gohan gets more angry and starts winning a bit but not crazy winning until cell max comes out and then gohan isn’t strong enough and finally becomes gohan beast

[@esketitesketit1658]

When goku hit MUI he should’ve no longer been in the story. He’s literally too powerful. The debate of goku vs vegeta was over at that point. For story sake, goku should only come back when ABSOLUTELY needed.

[@GrubKiller436]

As much as I appreciate the sentiment, I have to correct you here. Goku never mastered UI, so calling it MUI is silly. In fact, after fighting Jiren, Goku was no longer able to tap into UI. And in the Moro arc he was training with Merus to learn more about UI. And at the end of it finally managed to tap into UI at will. He still has no mastery over UI at this point... He's training with Whis, Whis saying that Whis' UI is better than Merus', and the Grand Priest's UI is better than Whis', with Goku saying "so you're saying I'm at the bottom of the ladder huh?" Goku still has a long way to go, and that's the truth.

[@GGeek11]

Facts man I've been saying its shit - Super zero sucks it will never beat og dragon ball/z

[@andrewarren4157]

Right it'll never beat classic Dragon ball

[@humuhumu776]

SPOILER ALERT One of the good guys screams and gets a new color and move and the villain dies

[@Chadhanyt]

Thank you

[@IkenFister]

Moro arc was good. It made characters seem important in the grand scheme during the final battle. They then fucked up and came out with the granolah arc. Toyotaro and toriyama need to stop with this shit writing and make the show funny like it used to be. Dbs was so childish and nothing like DB or DBZ

[@hurricane7727]

Moro Arc should be Canon since it was Good at least

[@IkenFister]

@@hurricane7727 it is canon

[@hurricane7727]

@@IkenFister Are you sure? Someone said the Dbs Manga was Noncanon

[@IkenFister]

@@hurricane7727 theyre both Canon bro. Every anime changes things from the manga.

[@hurricane7727]

@@IkenFister No its Not. In a Video It was Said the Dbs Manga is Non Canon to Dbs Super Heroe Movie.

[@Darkzilla138]

1:52 😂

[@trips963]

Problem is super is a reboot not a continuation. And a reboot is being generous more like fanfic every arc has been a dbz arc except goku black and guess wat people evil goku don’t count as a villain.🤣 literally portrayed as super sayian power after the red hair transformation arc because they dont put in the effort to make the story realistic to what their power levels should be terrible terrible manga has turned me off from dragonball

[@selfloathinggivesmelife7810]

Only thing I'm bummed about is the strong possibility that they'll just blame it on Gohan and Piccolo and then never use them again.

[@theredheadhenry]

We love Gohan and Piccolo it’s not them, it’s the way in which they were used. The blame is apparently on “lack of promos”

[@selfloathinggivesmelife7810]

@@theredheadhenry Yeah, but it feels like to me this movie's failure is the PERFECT excuse for Toei to justify keeping DBS SOLELY on Goku and Vegeta.

[@Dave-gk6si]

The kids like Goku and Vegeta not the fodder characters

[@redlinrangerstudio5331]

I had a fun time watching this movie, but I do agree on some of the criticism.

[@Iron_potato40k]

Bio broly in 2022

[@zeroshadeslayer3000]

I have always loved dragon ball since I was a kid but super was a love and hate relationship It had its good moments but honestly had lots of bad moments where it made u like wtf!? Also it kinda felt well just not the same kind of feeling as before this new movie looks g and I'm happy my boi piccolo and gohan gets the spotlight but I didn't like the direction it took like piccolo kinda deserves the power since he trains like every single day but it should've been unlocked years ago, gohan has this stupid thing where he says he should train but then goes back to doing his studies and shit look im fine with him getting a job and supporting his family but if ur not going do what u said then DONT FUCKING DO IT! idk that was just me cause I hate empty promises also he relies on his dad and vegeta too much that comment alone not only irked piccolo but I bet the whole audience plus I really hate they pull the deus ex machina crap and he didn't even train for god only knows how long even if he has potential thats still bs , then there buu who has been a bullshited so many times to count because of his fucking sleeping which i find the laziest reason why he doesn't fight i hate that tease seriously just quit that bull crap, and then there's jiren and this made me very angry this guy the was toughest sob in top and he can even win against his god in his universe , can literally say no to time defeat hit who was already kinda busted and took on ui goku then later a tired goku,frieza, and 17(still lost but hey plot)only to find out that he wasn't really that much strong in the first place he only just relaxed his body until he to attack ???!!! Thats killed it for me man look i loved toriyama and his work but to me it looks he doesn't care anymore and toyotaro idk his problem but thats just my rant. I still love dragon ball to this day however its just not same anymore with this new stuff

[@onyx6774]

welp im going to watch this movie since of all the other ones, it was the one that cought my attention the most.

[@theredheadhenry]

Looks like someone saw the promos after all XD

[@onyx6774]

@@theredheadhenry Oh I did XD

[@onyx6774]

@@theredheadhenry Oh I did XD

[@kyle_1960]

Its so damn childish it feels like cartoon and cell still stuck in 2nd form

[@henrygokufan10]

First I want to say that you're a really nice guy for allowing us to speak our opinion on how we think that Dragonball z has changed I know that you really want to see dragon Ball be the number one best-selling manga and series of all time but that's never going to happen after all we're in the new next generation of where anime and manga have changed drastically for the series and for anybody there's a lot of people who really love dragon Ball z and a lot of people really have their own personal opinions on dragon Ball super but not everything is going to be amazing sometimes you can just say that dragon Ball z is perfect but it's not really perfect at all really Dragonball z has a lot of vague you know criticisms too and I'm not coming off of this for me liking dragon Ball super because I grew up with dragon Ball z as well when I was around my elementary school-age and I've been seeing that a lot of people really want dragon Ball z to be number one again but that's never going to happen this new future of modern shounen anime is just very hard to come across by nowadays because of how dragon Ball z start everything dragon Ball z changed all of our lives and as a whole butt because of that new riders and creators have made their own new stories to show why they love dragon Ball z a lot and many others so that's why dragon Ball z might not be number one again because of how it is it's not because so many other creators really appreciate dragon Ball as a hole so I'm going to say this specifically I'm being very honest and if you disagree with me then that's perfectly fine dragon Ball z and its other many different types of counterparts have been different and many other places GT has shown us why we love many parts of dragon Ball z but it doesn't really stand out as its own it doesn't really give us any reason to like it at all GT just feels like an excuse to make us all of dragon Ball z a lot more Super well yes it does feel like a cash grab you're not really you know talking about what makes dragon Ball z really good at most parts I get it you love dragon Ball z no matter what and I'm going to say this specifically really that I think dragon Ball z is a very good series but it feels like that you're just attacking super and you're not really saying anything good about the series but you're mostly single things about bad stuff I mean if you're willing to make a video on how great dragon Ball super can be with some of its writing parts like the best parts of dragon Ball super I really want to see it I'm not trying to say this to be a superfan boy I'm just trying to say this because it feels like you said dragon Ball super should die but you're just saying the bad parts of it but you're not really good parts either way what about the writing of ultra instinct it really worth it felt like super saiyan transformation that we've known when it was first released in the very first part of dragon Ball z which is pretty cool to see either way it was a great part of its writing and everything else so super did it with ultra instinct but you're not really giving us more proof Saint why dragon Ball super can be amazing you're saying the bad parts of it but you're not really saying the good parts of it either way you have to have a balance between both good and bad of super and so I'm going to say this I think your opinion on the new movie is just a little bit different but I'mma say this already I know I'm speaking too much but I'm going to say this I think dragon Ball super is at least a decent watch and I know that sometimes people can feel like that a series can be killed off right off the bed if something that they don't like is there and is stuck there forever but I still think that it's really cool to see that you have spoken your own opinion on this but I feel like that dragon Ball isn't going to be the same as it used to be anymoreI know that you really wanted to see dragon Ball be great again so before you wanted I saw that hat either way when you said about saying Dragonball needs to be great again but there's no way dragon Ball Z's going to be great again and no has nothing to do with super as everything to do without Toriyama has made the series Toriyama Gohan to be the main character again in the third part of dragon Ball z but he swapped him with Goku and wanted him to be the character that continued on dragon Ball z for good so before you want to say that he can't really make a series with the Gohan I guess it pretty much deserves a Dragonball z has a bunch of problems to soak before you want to say that dragon Ball super should die you should also talk about the biggest issues that dragon Ball z also has it's not a masterpiece if it has a bunch of laws that hold it back a masterpiece is something that should be amazing throughout the way dragon Ball z can be amazing all the way most of the times it feels like that the creator doesn't really understand what how to write some of these characters there are parts like the cell saga which was not really amazing well done 4 Vegeta and many other characters you seem characters pull-off stupid mistakes and for some reason it feels like he wants to let go but for some reason it feels like that the dragon Ball community doesn't want to allow anybody to say look I love dragon ball super I don't love it because it's a cash grab I love it because it shows some writing and almost feels like a continuation of the series either way I don't think dragon Ball super is terrible but I do think that yeah it has problems but I can see the same thing for dragon Ball z GT and many other parts either way I'll go out of my way to say the different parts of dragon Ball z could be amazing but I also can understand that people really despise dragon Ball z for being serious where it's just not as great or the story doesn't connect with you anymore I understand how people say that but I feel like that you're saying and giving super too much hate and I know that you're pretty much trying to say that you don't hate dragon Ball super but you keep on saying that you don't want to do exist or you just wanted to die immediately that's not how it really works you can't really make an opinion talking about dragon Ball super it's not going to die off anytime sooner and I'm accepting the fact that it's not going to die out you may think that but there's no way dragon balls going to be good again it's not because of dragon Ball super cuz the Creator can't really make any in reason or excuse to make another series

[@pierregoku8209]

Dbs was always bad except for a few moments👍

[@OneYuDBZSlayers]

A thought just came to me about this movie. It is the same story with Gohan again only this time it is the worst version of it because of Super. Now I didn't watch the movie but from what I got from reviews. Gohan stops training again for the third time either though in Frieza Arc 2.0 Gohan ask Piccolo to train him again so he could protect his family and to make sure that something like earth being destroyed never happens again. So Super Hero thorws out all of Gohan's character development and says Gohan doesn't care about his family. Then also says we got Goku and Vegeta to handle stuff. Right sure because that work out so well the last time with Frieza. I thought Gohan was supposed to be smart? All this move foes is reuse plot points from the Buu arc, and Dragon Ball Super that we already show from Gohan only worst because of Gohan already learning this at the end of the Frieza Movie Arc which he should already have learned back in the Buu arc.

[@EnderGoku9001]

ngl cell just felt weird seeing toward the end

[@NarManYellowBoy]

You didn't really get into specifics or examples, but you kept it high-level so I'll give you that. I do agree with most of what you said. Dragon Ball Super is going down the drain and has been for some time. We need more KZbinrs to actually realize this and talk about it. I would hope in the future you do more videos like this one, you're really good at it.

[@theredheadhenry]

Thanks buddy.

[@jeremiahwilliams5469]

ytubers never will, they'll just say dbs is fine.

[@jlopez240gaming7]

I personally enjoy super. But I get tired of the random ass pull power ups. Like what happened to strategy and tactics in dragon ball? Thankfully to me the manga isn’t that bad, and manga goku is waaaaay better than the anime goku.

[@godzillagurus576]

@@jlopez240gaming7 still aint better than z goku or gt goku

[@chimichangatakeout3551]

DragonBall ended in terms of writing ever since the Android arc.

[@Onlythepowerfulsurvive92]

I've subbed thank you for the truth 🙏 I've had enough of shills

[@RenSenpai7]

Thank you. For simply being honest : )

[@christhianborrero3623]

I am not huge fan of Dragon Ball Super but i dont agreed that the movie suck because the last movie of Dragon Ball have being great despite Super not being great.

[@kyuremthefrozen8539]

yo red what's up

[@James35142]

Gohan deserved better than cheap Cell saga fanservice.

[@themenagerie5247]

My biggest problems with super hero are: 1. It’s just the cell saga again 2. I just want gohan to have a nice quiet life, have him be the great saiya man again and take down, have him become the worlds greatest martial artist, I want him to have a nice life like he wants. He’s not goku he doesn’t like the whole save the world BS so stop putting him in it. 3. Gohan jumping to the strongest mortal ever is just a joke especially with how stupid he looks.

[@loveladii69]

I don't get it everybody hate the show and movie BUT ZTILL PAYED TO WATCH IT? Where are people common senses

[@theredheadhenry]

It’s Dragon Ball. Flashy fight colors and big butt bulma hook the kids.

[@theopulentone1650]

They can't help but suck off anything Dragon Ball related even when it's bad.

[@bobhollywood4093]

I don't hate the show because I've never seen it, but I took my kids to go see this film over the weekend. I enjoyed it thoroughly. Piccolo is my second favourite character, and I was glad to see him shine.

[@nicholascruz5062]

I didn't really enjoy Super. Didn't even watch the series in its entirety, but the few cool things they did right I enjoyed. Not enough though, and it kinda sucks because in the Dragonball and Z series every character had some time in the spotlight. Tree of Might and World's Strongest were my favorite movies because it focused on the Z warriors before super Saiyan even became a thing. This, just makes me wish the series ended after the Buu saga or even GT because at least with GT it was a final way of saying the journey was at an end and even ended on a bittersweet note with kid Goku and Vegeta at the tournament with a retired Pan.

[@theredheadhenry]

100% agree.

[@andrewarren4157]

@@theredheadhenry I also agree

[@lisazheng8308]

@@andrewarren4157 is The Simpsons Movie better than Dragon Ball Super: Broly and Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero?

[@Gokuevp]

I agree, both the manga and anime are regurgitations of the previous narrative on LSD. Its as if almost they ran out of ideas or Toriyama is using his notes rehashing things over and over. Let the man retire and enjoy his millions, we need someone to bring something fresh to the story not rehashes after rehashes. Let Toyotaro have more freedom to stretch his legs with a better story. Its been 3 arcs and they all feel exactly the same (in the manga) whatever corporate push this is is not a good one. DragonBall has become the corporate artstyle minimalism nonsense of the anime industry.

[@yderga8707]

If you want me to be honest, I think Toriyama is a hack that's really good at making character designs and world art but really nothing else. Hes extremely forgetful to the point where he forgot even Goten existed and from what I gather hes an arrogant man who's very hard to deal with. The guy said he was done after Z and DB should've been passed on to his apprentice who seemingly has a much better understanding of what fans want than he does.

[@Gokuevp]

@@yderga8707 honestly, his area of expertise is slapstick comedy, not cohesive storytelling.

[@carlox3002]

Dragon Ball needs to die

[@kinyonorr2902]

No it doesn’t.

[@theredheadhenry]

Unless it becomes the new Pokemon, as it very well could- it eventually will :(

[@kinyonorr2902]

@@theredheadhenry no it won’t

[@hunnidshottas1808]

@@kinyonorr2902 they gotta make better story plot in the anime it can’t be no weak ass repeat they ran out of ideas smh

[@carlox3002]

@@kinyonorr2902 why not?

[@lisazheng8308]

I dislike Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero

[@Onlythepowerfulsurvive92]

Thank you for the truth 🙏

[@charlestheblacksummoner7816]

This is looking like the end tbh.

[@Darth_Xionn]

It's not even close to done lol, nothing is stopping Dragon Ball.

[@theredheadhenry]

It may not be the end, hopefully with what they are doing in the manga can get turned around and they can start doing some improved stories.

[@charlestheblacksummoner7816]

@@theredheadhenry god I hope so.

[@SSJCrusader]

As much I wanted Gohan and others have spotlight and not always Goku and Vegeta... However they this idea for the movie badly, just recycled of old content they made before... Cell Saga, Gohan's SSJ2 transformation scene, Bio Broly but its Cell and random asspull forms especially has no explanation to it, even the name suck ass too It would be cool if Gohan and Piccolo got stronger cuz of they got back in training and shows off that transformation isn't everything, while for villains it would make sense main antagonist is Android 21 considering she is Gero's wife and I dont sure she even know that 17 and 18 are the ones who killed Gero and not anyone from Z-fighters which that makes her give ambition to continue the legacy of revenge against Goku and others... Would make sense that 21 able upgrade herself to Majin 21 when she decided to steal DNAs again from Z-fighters (Since previous DNA they stolen are outdated and thought all Z-fighters improved once again so they need a new one) also Buu's DNA probably do biggest changes to her that make her par on Gohan, Piccolo and SSJ3 Gotenks especially if the 3 gone train awhile in their free time then in the end, Gohan probably be last one standing against 21 and beaten her and instead killing her she just spare her instead and give her a chance... That ironically throwbacks to OG Dragon ball where Goku spare his enemies and Gohan isn't much fighting too which make sense for him to spare her... Since 18 is there too, she can explain that her and 17 are the ones killed Gero and not the Z-fighters as well find a way to convince her to give up the revenge plan she has and ending will be RR Army and Z-fighers go separate ways and go back to their normal lives again

[@chrisnichols9014]

Gohan's new form just makes him look like Teen Gohan as a SS2...It's just nostalgia bait and it sucks.

[@nobbymcnobs8721]

Super hero is genuinely garbage, if daima is worse I'll be impressed. Super hero is just "remember the cell saga" for a whole movie. Two androids get made by a doctor Gero specifically made to defeat the Z warriors and one immediately shows their power by taking out one of the pre-established powerful characters, piccolo goes to the lookout in order to gain more power to defeat the Android threat, only for there to be a third, stronger Android being Cell. Then everyone fights Cell, with one of the androids sacrificing themselves only for it to do Jack shit vs Cell and Gohan whips out beast because I guess he just didn't fucking care enough in the ToP

[@fairytailhero5965]

The movie sucks they ruined everything I loved from dragon ball z they ruined the nostalgia of Gohan turning super sayian 2 by doing the same thing but not trained for it and stolen fan transformation of gohan blanco, they messed up cell, they ruined piccolo and the other characters I hate this film alot

[@youarenowawarepodcast8896]

I don’t understand 😭 I wasn’t a fan of the movie but it wasn’t for these reasons. I loved Piccolo getting a new form (and the connection with the dragon balls). I also loved the idea of not Goku and Vegeta getting a movie. I expect Goten and Trunks to still be useless because the writers hate them, and I love the fact Gohan’s a nerdy biologist since that’s relatable as hell. I wasn’t happy because they killed off the android with actual character (not the cut and paste stoic one) and he died for no reason when they could’ve wished for Goku back, Gohan got his power up since Piccolo got roughed up and not even seriously hurt, can’t wish back androids even though you can wish for a larger ass and anything else in the world basically, there was some ecchi in this which felt really weird for a Dragon Ball Super move (feels like we haven’t gotten cringe ecchi jokes since Dragon Ball the original), and Piccolo felt so out of character. He was so goofy, speaking out loud when he’s supposed to be spying and felt so absent minded. He let Gohan’s daughter be KIDNAPPED.

[@AkagiRedSun]

I like the movie but didn’t like they introducing Orange Piccolo and Beast Gohan which they could’ve serve same purpose without new form.

[@mekhimays9599]

Dragon Ball to Dragon Ball Z to Dragon Ball GT and that it!

[@marcov4190]

Let me tell you something... I'm a Dragon Ball fan... DB Super is trash... all of it.

[@sunnyd4038]

Dragonball Super: Superhero? More like Dragonball Poop: PooperZERO

[@theredheadhenry]

You just earned your pay for the week.

[@jayceallen6530]

Gonna be 100% honest, only part about this movie i liked was bulmas ass

[@kamikazehound3243]

I watched it yesterday and it was bad to me. Not the worst movie but the story felt incomplete, Gohan transformation feels underseved and Piccolo using Pan as bait is like a worst version of Goku trying to push Gohan to snap

[@Fran_B.]

Couldn't agree more. I absolutely felt the graphics were done by a video game artist. They felt so artificial and polished... without the grittiness you get in the anime, that I actually like. - Piccolo looks like he's never taken damage before in his life. --They've reduced him to a nanny, and the overall writing was so unoriginal.... for this. ‐-- "Let's do Red Ribbon and androids again!!" like it hasn't been worn out completely... "already and beef up an old villian - and call it: Perfect Cell max... " 😎😎😎 👌 The 1 and 2 androids, look like Saiyaman's evil, but equally ridiculous looking counterparts. The hair color transformation always felt lazy to me. They do Gohan even worse by keeping him look pretty much normal all the time. I still watch it ... - cuz I love Vegeta, and he is the only one with real development... but definitely anything I see from them, since Super started .... just feels like a nostalgic cash-grab from a creator .... that just doesn't have any fresh ideas, (or writing talents left.) *Comment revised* by me ~

[@theredheadhenry]

Well said dude 👍🏻

[@PhilipMarcYT]

We could technically say this is the fourth DBS movie if we count BoG and RF. I personally didn't like BoG or RF so those flicks kind of felt pointless and boring to watch. Best DBS movies: Super Broly > Super Hero > Battle of Gods > Resurrection F Golden Freeza looks more of a p*rn toy, but that's just my opinion.

[@zeleon8604]

I agree with you definitely a polished turd and the worst part about the movie they don't even take the Dragon Balls serious anymore. Bulma got butt implants, Piccolo got a booster shot from Shenron and Gohan through a tantrum because his dad was getting beat up not killed. now he's the strongest fighter in the universe? don't even get me started with those cringy ass jokes throughout the movie I may have laughed once or twice but that was it. the action scenes were okay some of the camera movement was unnecessary and they only showed Goku Vegeta and Broly for 5 minutes this movie was hot garbage with a splash of doo doo water they were trying to hard with this one

[@SulL101]

Gohan has the most potential of any of the z fighters, he was able to reach super Saiyan 1 and 2 after a year of training, so I imagine it wouldn’t take much too push him too the next form. If just goes too show how far gohan can go when forced to, and if he continued to train, then he might be even stronger than whis

[@thelegendarymarioman8461]

Goten has more

[@Leo7279]

I generally hate all things Super. This movie is on tier with Evolution. It's awful tbh

[@sydneyowusu3750]

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[@Leo7279]

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[@lisazheng8308]

@@Leo7279 is The Simpsons Movie better than Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero?

[@Alexis_Customs]

I don't get why so many people defend dbs... I really don't get it...

[@Briguy8919]

All the piccolo gohan and pan stuff was great Goku vegeta and Broly being training partners sweet The rest of the content felt like garbage

[@PhilipMarcYT]

I watched the movie yesterday and really enjoyed it, it felt like one of the classic Z movies where everyone unites to take him down. The one thing I seriously hated was the score, I mean.. It sounded more like background noise than actual music. Why the hell didn't Toei hire Sumitomo for the movie? I hope there'll be a fan who mixes the Japanese or English dub with Sumitomo, Yamamoto, or Synthesized Kikuchi score. Sato Naoki's score is just junk.

[@user153xhzbso8e]

What should happen is a arc where there's a reboot for Dragon Ball JoJo style because they need a better story bruh (Characters, Animation, Effects and anything of the sorts are good but the story REALLY needs a rework)

[@kerotamahirome7869]

Despite trying to enjoy it for what it was I legit hated the 3Dness plus some of these "hero" characters looked like a child designed it...this is nothing like how the manga portrayed Dragon Ball Super lol

[@cheese.7974]

Yeah I dont like things here and there from the movie but the way they did cell to me was so bad! Such a cool and charismatic villain like cell thrown away and made into just another big bad monster with like no intelligence and all ruthless, they did it ok with buu but not cell.

[@jlopez240gaming7]

It was bio broly all over again. We could have gotten the old witty cocky cell back. Nope we got Godzilla dressed as cell.

[@bobhollywood4093]

It wasn't the same Cell, so why would you expect him to behave the same way. That's like asking why Coola and Frieza don't have the same personality.

[@ActionjXD]

Can’t sell a polished turd. Was the highest grossing anime movie of all time in the us. So yes you can sell a polished turd

[@theredheadhenry]

Seems over in Japan they prefer quality over blandness.

[@ActionjXD]

Seems to be but everyone’s opinions is different. I think it was okay but I wouldn’t say bad, I thought it was funny that throughout the whole movie the only thing piccolo does is try to get gohan fighting again