It takes just 4 days to assemble this Passive House building enclosure that will last generations

[@randynilsson2466]

Great to see you guys using Alpen Windows. We're huge fans of all you do. Please keep up the good work!

[@StyleSensePlus]

Would’ve been nice to see a finished interior staged to get an idea of what it would look like.

[@roxyrockster]

check out their website. beautiful homes imo. i'd own one in a heart beat if they were available in my state.

[@tracya.schneider7698]

Fabulous! Love your entire premise - Healthy Materials and Custom!

[@RaoulPop]

Almost $600,000 for the H19 model referenced in the video? Are you nuts? That's on top of the cost of the land and the other incidentals involved in the building of a home. No, no, no.

[@orionishi6737]

Yeah seriously! I thought the point of all this modular stuff was supposed to be less expensive since it doesn't require as much construction. That's a lot of money for that size of a house. Insane. P.s. just did the math. They get paid 15,000 per panel/hour since he said it takes them about an hour to build each panel. Absolutely crazy.

[@phoenixhaus3003]

Raoul believe it or not that is less than the comps in the area!

[@phoenixhaus3003]

@@orionishi6737 I'm not sure your math quite adds up, but good try!

[@RaoulPop]

@@phoenixhaus3003 That is crazy. Is there any wonder that the younger generations prefer to rent or to build microhouses? Who wants to be tied down to a 600-700K mortgage or more? This kind of an economic and societal structure is unsustainable. We need to find a better way to do things as a society. This is not right. I remember back in high school, and it wasn't that long ago, in the early 90s, when a completely finished house over 100K was thought of as expensive and luxurious, and people were impressed by how much square footage and quality materials you'd get when you bought it. If you bought something over 200K, well then you were truly deep-pocketed. Now we're talking about houses over 600K as starter houses for young families. It's crazy.

[@phoenixhaus3003]

@@RaoulPop It is crazy! Actually we don't see the future in single-family residences anymore, it's simply too expensive. Numerous studies assert this as well. Gone are the times that you can assume you will be able to build your own custom house for a family of 4. That is why we are working diligently to provide other solutions, specifically regarding co-living, income producing ADU's and multi-generational living so that resources can be pooled and things shared. In 2021, we have our first co-living building coming on line that we are extremely excited about and have been working on for the last two years!

[@sonarahauser3087]

As a older single women looking ahead to the next chapter, this interest me very much , your designs and building materials, is the future in housing, I will be watching to see what else you do. I enjoyed your no nonsense information video, thank you.

[@johnparitosh]

Bring it to Australia. House prices here are through the roof.

[@lydiaderhake2532]

I was really interested in this, but looked at the pricing and half a million for a 1500 square foot house seems insane. I hope you can find a way to bring your assembly costs down, because we need more progressive builders in the country.

[@dannyboy8474]

Some of these niche shops get popular and all of a sudden they have a 2 year back log - could be the price is just from demand and the higher the price it the faster they can grow the operation.

[@thegenrl]

thank you for sharing the pricing research

[@sugumargovinda]

Absolutely insane...

[@leejones982]

Why did they release a video that you can't hear .

[@johnmccoy8058]

I have my Volume at 100% and still find both of them speaking about a low whisper. Why no microphone?

[@dansisco3076]

They’re ashamed

[@phoenixhaus3003]

@@dansisco3076 Ouch!

[@ecobuilder508]

Just built an Amerisus home at 1/5 the cost. Now moving ahead with one of their ADU’s

[@sugumargovinda]

Which area are you in?

[@willytheriot8439]

Remarkable. Start to finish

[@cassidyjonson3741]

I have volume up highest and can't hear them speaking. Is it just me?

[@MrBuddybega]

Like the work. Have you considered adding a 500 to 700 sq ft home to your options, plus tiny is helpful for people who can't afford a traditional home:)

[@SpaghettiMarinarable]

Good to see your factory and process. Love what you guys are doing.

[@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb]

Too bad no costs were discussed. What is cost differential for building code-compliant custom (which is admittedly crap in most places) vs this high-efficiency modular?

[@475.SUPPLY]

We'd recommend you reach out to Phoenix Haus to ask. But to be fair, the better comparison would be the differential in time and labor savings as compared to other high performance building. Those interested basic code-compliant would probably not be the interested audience at point.

[@phoenixhaus3003]

@@KSMO1031 Thanks Jon - you've got it right - that information is from our main home page as well - calling out the cost for that Model H 19. We do want to make sure and check this at the different building sites, as site costs vary each time, etc.

[@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb]

@@PADOYLE Agreed, but most people will make a judgement on cost differentials. Like Economy vs First Class. I'm - usually - too cheap to pay for F (often 3-5x Economy), but if there's a sale, I'll pay 2x more. That's why I'm interested in the cost difference because then I can make my value judgement to determine if it's 'worth' the extra money. In this case, this modular is quite competitive, particularly in high-cost markets

[@melissamybubbles6139]

@@475.SUPPLY I think people who are interested in having a good quality house but have a limited budget might like to have an idea of the price range for basic code through passive for a house of similar size on the same property. I know I'd be interested. I'd like to know the ROI and level of comfort and health available at different price points.

[@475.SUPPLY]

@@melissamybubbles6139 We hear you. Unfortunately we don't have a satisfying answer for that. Because Passive House construction is still in early stages across the country, it depends greatly on location and who works in your area. If you have experienced builders who can do the job, Passive House construction can be completed for close to same cost as decent quality new construction. 475 now ships materials within just a few days anywhere in North America - so most materials aren't location specific. The difference from place to place comes down to labor and experience of those doing the work. As Passive House becomes more prevalent across the continent, we should be able to see averages becoming clearer. I know it's not the answer you're looking for, but hope that helps give some context.

[@againstallenemies215]

Half million dollar "homestead".

[@JNO_JNO]

Hi Bill and Kate, very interesting approach ….what did you use for a foundation. Is it a insulated slab ? I am interested in building something like this in Quebec.

[@475.SUPPLY]

Hello! In Passive House construction, the slab is well-insulated. Phoenix Haus does not build in your location, but there are many great companies who do that you can speak with. We encourage you to check out The Fourth Pig Green & Natural Construction, Simple Life Homes, Tooketree Passive Homes, Quantum Passivhaus, and Rocket Construction - just to name a few!

[@chuckdeemo4249]

Is that Bill Burrs twin brother? Lol

[@jijiji9520]

I understand that passive houses are cheaper to maintain due to low energy use but the the costs of these houses are pretty pricey. ~$600k for a house that still needs plumbing, electric, permits, etc. I don't know

[@phoenixhaus3003]

that price includes all of those things....

[@treelife365]

Great showcase of what construction tape can do! Construction tape!

[@LuigisonsDojo]

What blower door scores are you getting? Have any of your houses had solar roofs yet?

[@475.SUPPLY]

Hi Dennis, Phoenix Haus regularly hits Passive House levels of airtightness on first try. I don't know the results for this particular home, but somewhere south of 0.6ACH50. And many of the prefab homes we cover do end up with solar. Since they're looking at 90% less energy use, it's very easy to hit net zero with a small array.

[@roberthaverlock8605]

How about net positive?

[@ryanmagnuson4330]

Man, building a house is like highway robbery nowadays! Most people will not truly be able to afford building one of these (or any house in general ) at over a half million dollars, which probably doesn't even include land. Now with the price of lumber sky rocketing, that price tag goes up even more. Cool ideas, but not affordable or realistic.

[@roxyrockster]

Currently in my area a 1900 sqft home (and no where near the quality of these) is in the 450 to 500k range. My neighbor paid for her 1100 sqft old with minimal updates house 325k. Crazy. Of course that does include the small lot it sits on. You are right, sky rocketing lumber and materials. Scary!

[@roberthaverlock8605]

Should not cost more then 10% above conventional? But the savings are incredible… if your looking long term, this is it… cutting 50% in heating and cooling

[@johnwohltman4696]

Is particle board “healthy”???

[@roxyrockster]

it's not particle board. check out their website. i just did. they are beautiful very well built top quality construction.

[@craigkeller]

Study, listen to each other, success is assured. Great work!

[@jamesblack9324]

Interesting! If the walls are closed, how are they fixed to the slab?

[@475.SUPPLY]

Metal brackets / simpson ties attached on the interior / exterior of panels. One nice thing about the consistency of working with building blocks, is that you can plan for similar weights / loads on each panel. Meaning, with the help of an engineer, you can choose a set of ties that work for all your panels.

[@ugmogaming9083]

I’m looking to build a home in Colorado and I want a passive home, but where do I start?

[@chimpo131]

Not here that's for sure 😆

[@ugmogaming9083]

@@chimpo131 not sure what you mean, but I found the Phoenix Haus website and I think it’s pretty competitive with the pricing. I think I’m going to try to work with them because their in Grand Junction CO and they’re close to where I want to build my next home. Thx, for the info though.

[@ugmogaming9083]

I have a 5 bedroom 3 bathroom house in Florida and I pay between $450- $600 per month electric. I’m will to pay more for my build and less on heating and cooling and air quality.

[@475.SUPPLY]

If you're looking to build in Western Colorado, there is no better group to talk to than Phoenix Haus. If not them, the other path to go down would be to find an Architect who is Passive House Certified and direct them toward our free details on foursevenfive.com. We have everything an Architect needs to go full Passive House.

[@katherandefy]

You guise are awesome.

[@Ntx_MrE]

1:20 “want smaller units or don’t really want to own something.” False. Very want to own, they/we just don’t want to have to pay monies forever for the sense of ownership our parents could afford at a fraction of the cost. And yes, building technologies have improved, but how can we claim “efficiencies” when everything is practically 1000% the cost it was just 30 years ago?

[@JSomerled]

Imagine how I felt when my grandfather built his own home 1200 sq ft for $13k and my dad bought his new 1400 sq ft for $23k... But yeah,I wouldn’t want my dads $86.00 a week paycheck ether... My 1200 sq ft house cost 110k but considering I get paid 10x more it becomes relatively the same... So if you want the world to go back to 1950s cost of ownership,you should also give back the cost of employment..

[@Ntx_MrE]

@@JSomerled well ... and true, incomes and pricing did change, but not proportional to one another. For example ... the Wyndham homes Hunter 1600 sq ft floor plan in Denton June of 2015 went for $140,000. When lots finally opened in December of the same year, they started at $180,000 ... $40k jump in 6 months. Now it goes for $250k starting. My dad went for an architectural degree in the 1970’s full time that he paid for over the summer in a part-time golf caddy position. I went for the same program in the early 2000’s part time schooling that I was paying for with a full time job. My first job in 2000 had a 5.25 minimum wage. It’s 7.25 an hour 21 years later (and if that’s minimum, imagine the wage scale all across the board). The 2 biggest contributing factors that I can observe of the bat are the pickup truck market going from a new truck costing $25k to $60k when the oil field saw a group of people with a high school education making $200k+ a year and bought them with cash. So the market anticipated that they were underselling. Housing had its infamous bubble, and its undergoing a second market bubble as Californians are existing in a mass exodus, and everyone else is anticipating CA monies. This is why every vehicle manufacturers try to push a lease plan, and why most cities are building multi-family apartments over single family homes. Trying to make an “affordable” solution, rather than try to remedy the core problem. At least, from what I can observe personally and first-hand

[@JSomerled]

@@Ntx_MrE there is So much you don’t even begin to account for..For instance,the population in this country more than doubled in my life time,and it will quadruple in your kids lifetime..Supply for items like lumber will never keep up,especially when cheap lumber gets dumped in the USA forcing lumber mills here to close.Cost of new home prices are due to dynamics that will only get worse,not better..Builders are not going to just eat the cost of lumber doubling... I would worry more about being relevant in the job market so you can take advantage of the increase in labor cost when it occurs.. As it always does..People who get left behind usually have good reason to be left behind.

[@Ntx_MrE]

@@JSomerled that’s true, and I can admit that I was taking a hyper focused perspective and using a very specific scope. Heck it also leaves out major issues like local politics (like ... 6 city council members leveraging their “unpaid local government positions” to adjust local taxes to somehow benefit their multiple real-estate holdings) in addition to the concerns you brought up. So, yes, definitely. But there’s still the frustration as people balance the desire for ownership and stability and independence with the ever growing costs and lease-culture tethering folks to the producers of whatever the goods and services are.

[@ahowl7mx]

I like the general design strategy but omg please get a microphone! Volume to max on this one.

[@alexgray1905]

Have you considered building in EU or perhaps you know companies there that has similar products and capabilities?

[@lucianom.]

Watch grand designs. There are a few episodes ( particular one in the last season) in which they show homes built with similar technology. If I am not mistaken one of the most successful companies is located in Estonia and from there they export to whole EU.

[@micksoden7064]

Excellent

[@MichaelConway1308]

I wish you were in NJ.

[@Michael-bw9hq]

Very interesting, would love to know cost / ft for a build in Mammoth or June lake CA. As a customer I’d also advice you to let the lady talk more, without realising it you were cutting her off and that came across as arrogant. Equality is just as important as quality. Wishing your business every success 👍

[@thomasschafer7268]

Look very good. Could be in germany. I've seen a lot of trash on KZbin. But this is amazing. 👍👍👍🇩🇪

[@podskizee]

Cost?

[@katemcdonald4720]

economic success is all relative - in the Colorado mountains, $300/SF is cheap! Costs are only going up and building in the mountains has always been more expensive.

[@RJTheMountainSage]

Check out arched Cabins, much less expensive and also easy set up

[@ilikenachosify]

Thank you

[@kenharty6016]

How much for 1900sq ft?

[@kennethhudson8013]

I would like to build a 18x48 home in Western NC

[@deerhunter7482]

Great idea but I've had to go back on a 14' wall with cellouse that settled at least 2' over 5 years .

[@shelter7214]

Code requires fire blocking every 10' where I live... but my first instinct is to say that your insulation installation was definitely not done properly if you've had that issue.

[@phoenixhaus3003]

Sorry to hear - this comes if the cellulose is not installed properly

[@deerhunter7482]

Our correction was at first look good because it had a grey screen to the attic side however if you trim the inner bond it will settle and a lazer thermometer is the only way to find it . Closed cell won't settle 1/4 " in 22 years and I can prove it and will put money against the cellulose over 10 years but it's your choice.

[@roberthaverlock8605]

Not when it’s dense packed!

[@frankgall6]

Awesome 👍🏻

[@lareenagoertz7998]

For some reason, the sound is terribly low on your video for me. Turned all the way up and still can barely hear it

[@JakeHynd]

What is that ext wood cladding? it is exceptional!

[@jgrmtnjgrmtn3954]

It is what they don't tell us that is most interesting to know

[@phoenixhaus3003]

Its called Thermory!

[@jasonalton5613]

Absolutely love this do you offer your services near Portland Oregon?

[@475.SUPPLY]

Thank you! We are the material supplier who worked with Phoenix Haus, and we ship materials anywhere in the US. If you are going to be building from the ground up, we actually have a warehouse just outside PDX, so it's 1-day shipping the metro area. If you want high performance prefab references, unfortunately Portland is out of range for Phoenix Haus. However they have teamed up with Artisans Group to make prefab Passive House projects happen in the PNW - I would suggest reaching out the Artisans Group (based in Olympia and Seattle).

[@sugumargovinda]

@@475.SUPPLY I am looking for passive high performance ADU in Portland Oregon area. I will check out Artisans Group. 🙏

[@475.SUPPLY]

@@sugumargovinda You should also reach out to Hinge Build Group, another good one in your area.

[@tahzwalker]

Hard to look at affordability after the fact. But that's not their market.

[@bcoldwell1]

Any recommendations in Minneapolis area?

[@475.SUPPLY]

We're not connected with any Passive house Prefab operations immediately nearby, but I believe Simple Life Homes (simplelifehomes.ca ), based in Ontario, may be in range. Another recommendation would be to reach out to the architects involved in Passive House Minnesota ( passivehouseminnesota.org ), many of which are based in Minneapolis.

[@kaninacox3394]

Can you recommend a Passivhaus builder near Springfield, Mo?

[@475.SUPPLY]

You may want to try sending an email to Phoenix Haus first, MO is not in their official service area, but they may make an exception. Locally, we recommend talking to Prairie Design Build based in Kansas City.

[@alanr745]

Build Show Network. Jake is their builder in MO. His current house reached an air tightness of nearly 1/10th of the PHI standard.

[@sapper043]

Have anything in the plans for a 24x24? Approximate cost?

[@475.SUPPLY]

We recommend you reach out to Phoenix Haus directly on their site: www.phoenixhaus.com/ - they update it frequently and show all available models.

[@KFED721]

Look at Phoenix Haus website $$$$$$$$$$$$

[@PassiveHouseCody]

This is a wonderful video! Displays harmony with mission, purpose and earth! The details and design of the building elements are remarkable and just perfect! PHantastic Job!

[@jgrmtnjgrmtn3954]

I will describe a more affordable option and just as fast ... But first: These two folks speak so low, one loses interest. It is somewhere between mumbling and whispering. He up-talks (tilting the end of sentences in an upward pitch as if asking.not telling) to excess. She dares us to hear her. Visuals are GREAT ! Lack of price without land is disappointing and glaring to the point of being suspicious. Concept is attractive for the rich or financially wreckless. GOOD method for short build season such as Colorado "high country" and similar climates. Not a realistic option for tight budgets - For them, consider 2 or 3 or more simple rectangular gable-roofed garages built end end to end, without interior walls so big open space inside which is a fast build using roof trusses, out of the weather quickly, only load bearing walls on the 2 exterior sidewalls. insulate and install electrical and plumbing,drywall THEN allows for erecting interior walls versatile floor plans. It's relatively inexpensive and quick. and fast exterior with roof so construction out of the weather fast.

[@PassiveHouseCody]

@@jgrmtnjgrmtn3954 Show us please. A video is ideal. I consult all over the Rockies and $300 a SQFT is actually low.. Colorado is expensive to build. Not to mention Colorado is a 3 climates a day kinda place. So speed is money. The fabrics and intel of building science applied here is almost life-like. A body is vapor proof and water proof, but yet it can sweat and steam.. So can this type of assembly.

[@jgrmtnjgrmtn3954]

@@PassiveHouseCody check out Matt Risinger's The Build Show for it's quality and content. He makes Green homebuilding interesting and is seeking his certification. Many episodes focus on water and air-tight homebuilding. I spend almost half the year in Colorado High Country and much time studying new construction. I consider your video more promotional than diy for obvious reasons.

[@PassiveHouseCody]

@@jgrmtnjgrmtn3954 Yea Matt's pretty geeky. Also this isn't our video, but we're still impressed! It's total example of science, technology, engineering and math. Gotta love that..

[@bollweevil8112]

1900 sq ft ! Maybe for a family, but most people/couples need 1/3 of that. Good ideas though

[@neuvatn]

even on max volume it's too quiet to hear properly what they're saying.

[@e.r.1492]

WHAT?????

[@pmessinger]

Canadians, every statement ends as a question? Even turned up to hear, the up-talking is un-nerving?!

[@MrSupercoolkid1998]

@@pmessinger they're not Canadian

[@kirill__kirill]

У вас получаются узлы стыков панелей не защищены пароизоляционной мембраной. В местах где стыкуются панели стен и панели кровли.

[@jockejohansson5957]

A question, You talk a lot about healthy houses and healthy building process, but what about your choice of materials?? you use plywood/OSB/EPS/Styrofoam etc, that is not healthy materials at all, it contains a lot of chemichals wich off gases inside the house for many years.... So , did you find any supplier who makes these products with no hazard chems i would be happy to know where its located.

[@475.SUPPLY]

Hello, we're the supplier of the tapes, membranes and air barrier system and can only speak to that part of it. But our materials meet the highest requirements for indoor health, are Red List Free, and have zero VOCs. You can check with Phoenix Haus for details on other materials, but since this is a core goal for their company, I believe you will find they have done their research.

[@devonpeters9458]

Thanks for the video and work! Do you work in Nashville, Tn or have references?

[@475.SUPPLY]

Thank you! We are the material supplier who worked with Phoenix Haus, and we ship materials anywhere in the US, if you are going to be building from the ground up. If you want high performance prefab references, unfortunately Nashville is out of range for Phoenix Haus. The closest high performance prefab building company that we work with is EcoCraft in Pittsburgh PA. We'd recommend starting there to see if prefab is a possibility for you.

[@devonpeters9458]

@@475.SUPPLY ok, I understand. Thank you very much!

[@tomsteger1]

Awesome! Love it!

[@johnwhite2576]

Should not put vapor barrier OUTRSIDE the fiber board, but if mento is that permeable, that will work of course.

[@stopato5772]

Could not hear them. Too quiet

[@michellem9848]

Builders in NC?

[@475.SUPPLY]

Our favorite Passive House builders in NC are REdesign.build - we did a blog post on a recent project here: foursevenfive.com/blog/passive-house-leadership-in-north-carolina/

[@mkipp581]

How many times did I hear "Healthy. Healthy Healthy"..

[@justinhardge1006]

Can you recommend anyone in GA?

[@illusiym-Force]

Lay-out and energy room are always interestingly show. But all the talk ….. put in a podcast.

[@diggingupnorth3453]

living healthy = Pay us a high per sq/ft price to pre fab your house

[@Kramitall]

Yes, I'm suspect on the price vs value. This is like paying $500 a month for yoga classes. I don't know, they either have crazy high costs or insane margins. Either way, not for me.

[@phoenixhaus3003]

sorry you feel that way but that is surely not the case!

[@phoenixhaus3003]

@Crap Guitar Show Ouch, not quite - have you built a Passive House recently?

[@Kramitall]

@@phoenixhaus3003 okay, then what is the gross margin and what is the breakdown of the $300/sq.ft?

[@phoenixhaus3003]

@@Kramitall $200 of it falls to the onsite builder. $100 of it is our package. That's 2/3s that is not within our scope and something that we can't control and is decided by onsite labor rates and finish preferences. For 2/3s of the price we provide 40% of hard costs. Including windows pre-installed and all structural components.

[@jimdevilbiss9125]

It’s a saltbox house !

[@jantallfree]

Unreasonable pricing....

[@dc-wp8oc]

Sure, everyone would appreciate energy efficient housing but affording it is another matter. Yes, energy prices will continue to escalate by design and with government's blessing. Few industries, like energy suppliers and agriculture, enjoy government subsidies and pricing protections. Once housing became the playground of investors and speculators, the word "affordable" disappeared. Now we just accept that signing up for a half lifetime of payments (the mortgage scam) is normal. Miss too many of those payments or paying your lifetime of taxes to the state and see how long you will be allowed to occupy that home.

[@coreygillum12]

Thermal Buck!!!!!

[@spaceace9680]

3000 sq ft home is a waste of energy no matter the energy savings concepts like an elephant on a diet ( whats the use)

[@newviolets8489]

$500,000.00 tool shed.

[@johnmyers8588]

People are looking for affordability. This is not it. So many other options out there.

[@michah321]

Ok, they aren't low cost AT ALL!!

[@thomasd9237]

While it is pretty cool It's ridiculously overpriced. Just saying 🤔

[@vorant77]

Listening to the WOKE dialog (buzzwords) in this video was a real turn-off.

[@phoenixhaus3003]

what were those exactly?

[@nick-of-all-trades]

$500/sq. ft. not including lot. Just FYI. Learn to swing a hammer.

[@markwhite9148]

the drum beats are very annoying !!! Ruin the whole video.

[@cobbler1111]

Nope

[@lisascott2449]

Kiss my grits. Work on the value of helping the poor. Not the rich. 600,000 is house poor!

[@darrylldodson6623]

OVER $300/sqft....HAHAHAHAHAH!

[@av1204]

is that what they said? They are out of their minds if that is the price they are charging. I can build a much better house than that for 300$ a sq ft and it be net zero.

[@divinesoda7186]

Yea I thought it'd be cheaper and that was the appeal.. website says h19 goes for $593k

[@nicholasnewby8925]

In some places, such as where I live, $300 sqft is the cost to build on average. With the cost of materials, an extremely tight labor market, and a short building season, this is reality.

[@av1204]

@@nicholasnewby8925 this video was done before skyrocketing lumber prices. 300 a sq ft is fine if it was a large house that was a complicated build. I can build a more energy efficient home for much less

[@nicholasnewby8925]

@@av1204 If that is the case, please provide your info and location.

[@savmalloy5279]

POS!