‘It Was Self-Defense’: Accused Killer Takes the Stand Claiming He Feared For His Life - Day 7

[@princepsbellum3413]

You just gotta love the logic of "If I'm a child molester, then why are they drinking?"

[@Lisa_leelee]

Right? I didn’t understand that …. No logic indeed!

[@travispratt6327]

He perhaps means “if you’re so afraid, why are you getting drunk making yourself an easy target for someone who would want to that”. That’s my guess anyways. I think his main point was just they shouldn’t be out there underaged and drunk.

[@princepsbellum3413]

@@travispratt6327 Regardless of what his point was, he was simply trying to divert responsibility away from himself.

[@travispratt6327]

⁠​⁠@@princepsbellum3413 So… he was responsible for them making up the lie about him being a “raper”? And this was just him diverting that responsibility?

[@princepsbellum3413]

​@@travispratt6327 Sigh. No, I'm saying he tries to paint the kids in a bad light, as in "I did nothing wrong, divert your attention away from me, please. They had knives, they were drinking, they were abusive, they tried to pull my pants down, they knocked my goggles off". That's what I'm saying.

[@DrewPNeck]

If he thought it was self defense he would’ve immediately called 911 himself and stayed there, with the weapon, to speak with police Confidently told his story and laid it all out right then and there. But he hid the knife, waited until police started to arrive and then decided to float on down the River like nothing happened, not telling anyone anything.

[@extremelevine]

I'm at Miu's police interview, and have to admit I'm a little embarrassed. Saving this for last was brilliant, I truly didn't expect him to lie like this. His first complaint was that they were calling him names! SMH

[@TripDogg5]

This guy's gonna spend a REALLY long time in prison for this. He'd have almost been better off pleading the 5th instead of digging himself a hole this big.

[@traveltm]

Ariel was right there while he stabbed some of them!!?? Wow. And Ariel says didn’t see? And NM doesn’t remember a lot but admits he knew Ariel there but he kept stabbing. He was stunned? No he just on a roll mine as well keep stabbing.

[@citrusbloom7504]

Yup, at the beginning of the trial during the video, I remember thinking ‘isn’t that his buddy standing there🤔’

[@JoeLene_]

I seen him too! Stripped shorts and sunglasses.

[@NativeAmericanIndiansGen-ii7ne]

Ariel should have been arrested AND charged as an accomplice WITH n.m. for MURDER AND ATTEMPTED MURDER.

[@lilmansmama]

Most everyone there didn't witness the actual stabbings either though.

[@mattruetz6524]

First time I watched the video I had no clue what was happening

[@lobonmonstrose11]

Did L&C not have the ability to pan to some of the video clips during cross? super annoying.

[@ashesr7]

Absolutely. I think they thought we'd be more interested in Miu's face but I'd rather see what the lawyers are pointing out in the video.

[@combatgremlin2188]

They usually do this, I am not a fan of their cameramen.

[@stephaniejacobs1267]

How is he able to testify that his lies during the interview/interrogation was how he remembered things? NO, cause it's not a "memory" when it's completely made up!!!

[@TLC26]

Never should have taken the stand

[@Steven_Williams_]

I think Miu walked a free man if he didn't testify. The testimony tipped the needle. Too many lies, too much deception. An innocent man doesn't try to run or avoid police. An innocent man doesn't try to hide the weapon he used to defend himself. An innocent man doesn't make up stories about the attackers having weapons they didn't have. Does this man deserve a first-degree murder conviction? Maybe not, but he deserves at least 10 years behind bars.

[@cavandra]

An innocent man calls police, makes himself known to them and volunteers his statement. He thought he would get away with it by setting a senario but didnt realise there was footage to show the BS from start to finish.

[@davidguthrie3739]

You have no idea how an innocent man acts. First of all, he’s not “innocent”. He pulled a knife and cut people who attacked him, so it’s not like nothing happened. But why would he not be afraid of what would happen to him next, even acting in self defense? There’s no easy or predictable response yet people like you are so sure of your own condemnation of someone in a situation you’ve never faced. That’s reason enough to fear. One thing that’s clear from all of the testimony is that everyone lies or shades the truth to fit their agenda, including the police.

[@fernandaolivares7926]

​@@davidguthrie3739exactly

[@Steven_Williams_]

@@davidguthrie3739It's gonna be okay David, we're not the judge or the jury, we're just people online offering our own theories.

[@BHarly]

@@cavandra yup 👍

[@dustinsanders5695]

His defense team never should have allowed him to testify.

[@QueenOfHillCountry]

I think the defense attorney's did not want him to testify- but he has that choice and right. He can't walk away from a fight...he continues to damage himself- in the choices he makes.

[@14svalde]

After watching Miu’s interview were he blatantly lied it makes me believe that if no video existed this would had been his story!! Such lies!

[@dabneyoffermein595]

Should have never gone on the stand.... says he doesn't remember ANY of the Lt. Hart interview, none of it. What a load of crap. In other words, he is conveniently saying he doesn't remember it likely on the advice of his attorney. The string of lies in that interview are endless.

[@debunkthejunk1]

Who knows, he may have been blackout drunk. Russians aren't know for their moderation and neither are those river tubing adventures.

[@chrisx2k6]

His lying is going to cost him, even if it truly was self defense. He doesn't remember entire interviews?? Especially considering how collected he was during them? Not believable. Points to consciousness of guilt.

[@fernandaolivares7926]

How does anyone remember anything after a traumatic event like that? He is watching the interview video and admitting he lied, he is not denying it, I had a road rage incident where a guy literally tried to run me over with his car because I dared to cross the street 2 feet away from the crossing...the whole thing is a total blurr! My 3 friends who saw it told each a different version of events to what I remembered. So yeah the mind is fickle.

[@Marietta30064]

You clearly haven't been watching the trial.

[@phildeslip728]

Exactly my thoughts

[@Hunee-]

I agree. Sounds like convenient memory loss to me. Not to mention how he discarded the knife, went back to his group after the stabbings, got into his tube, put on sunglasses and his hat as if nothing has happened. Sounds like he was just trying to go undetected. Hard facts to overcome in a self-defense case. His testimony on cross has me now thinking that he is guilty.

[@citrusbloom7504]

@@fernandaolivares7926 You know if you aren’t in the crosswalk, you’re jaywalking 😉

[@recmane]

The fact he lies about taking the knife away from a kid blows my mind.

[@Marietta30064]

He waas in SHOCK after being attacked by a mob.

[@candykisslolol]

@@Marietta30064 He even said in the interrogation that he had "lock jaw" and he didn't understand why he couldn't speak. Fear and shock!

[@BHarly]

@@candykisslolol o please

[@BHarly]

@@Marietta30064 nope 👎

[@jenylyn72]

@@candykisslolol yes!

[@traveltm]

I wish the state more skillful. Ask questions in inappropriate form. And just give up asking important questions when can’t figure out how to ask. It’s not that hard.

[@travispratt6327]

The states job isn’t to be “skillful”, it’s to present the facts fairly and accurately, not misrepresent them in order to game a conviction.

[@christina5kids16grands]

This judge likes peace in the courtroom more than hard questioning that might cause a witness to be uncomfortable or cause some fireworks in the courtroom. This state attorney could have pressed harder if the judge let him. Judge shut it down at every turn, even when it should have been allowed. That was unfortunate.

[@ritayammouni2803]

I thought that throughout this trial, but I think they did a great job showing up the lies

[@user-ew9lm9pu9k]

video does not lie

[@GRITBONE]

No it doesn't. That's why he's going to walk free!

[@sherrydmyterko-tramp8654]

It doesn’t catch everything though. There was stuff before the video, it doesn’t catch every angle

[@sunnyann7]

I'm so sick of seeing the videos! And I've watched Seinfeld episodes 20 times.

[@BHarly]

@@GRITBONE then you are delusional just like him.

[@travispratt6327]

@@sherrydmyterko-tramp8654 It catches enough to know he reasonably feared for his life and did what a reasonable person would find necessary to save their lives.

[@genghismccann7659]

If you're going to put your client on the stand at least question him competently!

[@kreneegpro14]

He knew what he did was wrong. Thats why he lied and kept questioning about the knives. He needs at least 10 yrs just for not showing any remorse.

[@ryanm7193]

Not showing remorse does not break any penal code.

[@kommisar.]

So stabbing multiple people ganging up on you is a crime now? Gee, I wonder which party you vote for....

[@fernandaolivares7926]

He is guilty of manslaughter at best but by no means he is guilty of Murder in the 1st degree. That was an overreach from the state and not proven beyond reasonable doubt. There is also no such thing as "cautiously defending yourself". Once you realize you are in danger of being lynched you are not thinking rationally anymore, before, during or after the event. Innocent people lie all the time, and innocent people who are not looking for a fight end up in fights all the time too. Fact is NONE of this would have happened if "Video Boy" had not decided it would be fun to humiliate the old guy and put him in real danger by alerting other groups of a "raper". NM could have gotten shot, drowned, or beaten up by a mob over a lie and the guy filming was watching it all happen LAUGHING. But sure they all drew the line at a drunk woman getting shoved BACK. If he had had a heart attack instead of a knife these kids would 100% be in jail. No one here was innocent at the end, but there was someone who started it all and it was not the old guy. At least he admitted lying to police, those kids perjured themseleves left and right on this trial, and also conveniently forgot anything that incriminated them, difference is, there were NEVER afraid until stabs went around.

[@amylynn732]

Your assessment is flawed and wrong on so many levels

[@BHarly]

Clown 🤡

[@fernandaolivares7926]

​@@amylynn732I think yours is too.

[@travispratt6327]

Manslaughter is what WI calls second degree murder, and would include unnecessary defensive force, however it seems your assessment acknowledges what he did was necessary by the way you characterize how there’s no cautious self defense, that when you feel your life is in danger you do what you have to. I think you’re just wrestling with the fact what he did was self defense and legal if we look at it objectively and according to the law. You also acknowledge the lies they were screaming could result in him being killed, adding to his reasonableness to believe his life was in danger. I think it’s clear it was self defense, and if not then there’s enough reasonable doubt it was first degree murder, the same charge as planning and carrying out shooting up a public place.

[@BHarly]

@@travispratt6327 nope 👎

[@sarahbethards1983]

Just came here to say I really like this judge. He comes across as very even-tempered and fair.

[@judyhendriks4184]

He is sooooo guilty … he was provoked but murder was not the way out of this situation… have fake memory loss

[@darrenc5563]

A tragic story on all sides.

[@donnarega1249]

First sensible comment shared.

[@stephaniejacobs1267]

Ugh! He seems to think that the magic phrase "I don't remember" erases the reality of it being true... the videos show he's lying all the way around!!!

[@brendamiller4078]

Same is true of every witness the state had

[@JoeLene_]

It's called trauma but in his interview that was manipulation. A trauma brain downloads the truth it doesn't make one up as elaborate as that load of crap. He is a peace of work. Not one other person denied being part of it or tried to get away. Not one other person had a weapon. He was the danger. He attacked first!

[@kjpeg]

Hmm and the kids have said the same thing , my minds foggy, no shiii you were drinking.. kids need to be charged with underage drinking

[@michaelcalland801]

Everyone of the kids did the same. They all told vastly different stories to LE on the day of the incident. Also, I can’t recall her name, but the 115lb woman that was with Madison testified that she doesn’t recall anything. Muni’s attorney did an excellent job of pointing that out with each state witness. He continuously asked each one of them..” Is your memory better today or 22 months ago on the day of the incident “. They all said “ Today”.

[@Raquel-ry5ry]

one of the girls doesn't remember which side of the face she got hit 😂. If this is the future of America then we are screwed.

[@traveltm]

Blood on ear probably from a victim

[@BHarly]

Yup

[@Vermont_Corruption_Exposed]

Only victim was the old dude

[@BHarly]

@@Vermont_Corruption_Exposed how is he the victim for stabbing everyone? He’s not you’re crazy.

[@margaretlumley1648]

​@VT.C.E, you are joking, right?

[@BHarly]

@@Vermont_Corruption_Exposed well 12 jurors disagreed with you. Tell the bots.

[@EYGGROUP.]

this man took out a knife with the intention to use it , he could have walked away, he didnt - he opened up a defenceless girl , kill another and stabbed 2 others - he is a dangerous man

[@_Its.Just.Felix_]

No he took out a knife to defend himself from a mob of drunk high people

[@ashleysmusic8396]

🤖

[@26Slug]

literally

[@26Slug]

@@_Its.Just.Felix_He didnt know they were drunk at the time and anyone walking into a group of people is looking for some trouble without showing friendliness, If a hyena walks up on a group of lions food messing with it (aka teens tubes), the lions just gonna let it slide and sit there calm? no. And those are animals, here before us. anyone walking into another group must explain clearly what they’re doing and have permission for no conflict, if they said no, back away until they’re gone from that area, really not that hard when your as old and supposedly mature like nic

[@EYGGROUP.]

@@_Its.Just.Felix_ he approaches them...... punches a girl half his size at which point her friends defend her by pinning him down, that justifies him opening up a defenceless girl , killing another and stabbing 2 others , none of which are armed .... really ? ...walking away would have been the right decision , he decided to kill

[@lindamcgough3645]

7:39:12 No empathy for the victims. Just he's suffering PTD. he wants to erase the whole thing from his "memory"! Except he wants us to believe he has no memory of anything!

[@zoeknap9777]

(Zoë’s Mumma) after watching Miu’s police interview a second time it is even MORE sickening- his BLATANT lying is unbelievable!!

[@jathanportis8432]

Tomorrow. Closing arguments, Jury instructions, lunchtime....Verdict by dinner time....The video is very telling. His actions after are very telling...If he felt his life was threatened he should have said that to police. Instead he tried to get out of there and lie...He knew he was wrong....

[@JoeLene_]

Guilty!

[@kimgale262]

Correct. GUILTY AF.

[@JoeLene_]

Guilty !!!

[@cheyenne9164]

Interesting to see the differences in "popular" opinion in the comments for Law & Crime compared to other channels featuring this trial. Says a lot about the Law & Crime community.

[@dawnsays1907]

Right

[@mariecpa2000]

Hope the jury notices that the slides presented by the defense are not in order. They are carefully arranged with pictures out of order to make it appear something happened when it didn't. SHAME ON SLIGHT OF HAND BY THE DEFENSE>

[@NativeAmericanIndiansGen-ii7ne]

YEP! VERY SLEAZY AND DISHONEST of the “defense” and I hope the jury members are paying attention. P.S. The defendant had an EVIL grin/smile on his face because he KNEW what he was preparing to do, which was to STAB AS MANY PEOPLE THERE THAT he COULD.

[@NativeAmericanIndiansGen-ii7ne]

Is the defendant trying out for politics with ALL of his “I don’t remember, I don’t remember, I don’t remember, I don’t know, I don’t know what happened, my memory…, I don’t remember”, ETC.?

[@amyvandy3167]

100% agree. Not that I blame them, but I sure hope the prosecution clarifies with a lot of emphasis. Very misleading.

[@shannon8461]

I think the slide show just emphasized the scripted and rehearsed nature of his “testimony”. And after the first half of direct, his lawyer kept emphasizing specific words to try and keep him on track. I think they had a “word of prayer” during the recess to the effect that he should stick to the script. At least that’s how it looked and seemed to me.

[@Kim-tl4wz]

@@NativeAmericanIndiansGen-ii7nehe's going for the Oliver North defense

[@traveltm]

I agree. It’s just messed up. He decided needed to go look for phone no one else felt necessary and he looked in complete wrong area. May be innocent but it’s odd. All started with his bizarre decisions.

[@margaretlumley1648]

Exactly. HE approached the kids TWICE and invaded their space. They reacted the way youngsters who felt threatened might act. He then killed one teenager, and seriously endangered the lives of several adults who came and tried to help

[@gm-lb9oe]

Still shows absolutely NO REMORSE, NO TEARS, ZIP

[@Gloomy.Sunday217]

If he had, you would have said, "he's crying for himself". I've no doubt

[@gm-lb9oe]

​@@Gloomy.Sunday217No it might show he is only human, and that he really fd up. But floats down the river, like nothing happened???

[@TitaniumTurbine]

@@gm-lb9oe Judging emotion during trial never works. People do this during arrests and in court rooms and it’s never accurate nor a representation. I don’t care if he’s innocent or guilty, the metric of whether someone shows emotions is publicly skewed. The other guy is right, it wouldn’t have mattered - if he did show emotion, it would have been labeled as fake.

[@Raquel-ry5ry]

Why? they tried to kill Mr. Miu .

[@tonyafogarty3512]

Not sure what Jury will do here..but this judge would throw the book at him..he seems very biased against this guy. I, however, think this was self defense..sad as is

[@ryanparkercolour]

You can’t claim self-defense when you physically walk into the crowd and lay your hands on people. Doesn’t work that way.

[@nick.nilsen]

He’s not even a little bit remorseful. Still trying to blame the victims. Even admits he thought they were underage so he has no issues murdering youth.

[@melissafischer5892]

He said during the incident time slowed down for him, but he still didn’t have any chance to think about what he was doing?

[@maryjuliachastain]

He shouldn't have testified if he wanted to get away with this. Lies, standing his ground, forgetting everything

[@citrusbloom7504]

He thought he was going to outsmart the prosecutor. He’s on of those people who think they are smarter than everyone else. Guarantee his attorneys begged him not to testify.

[@foghornleg90]

100% agree... I can't imagine any thinking jury won't find him guilty. The only question is OF WHAT.

[@FleagleSangria]

I have learned that in self defense cases the defense almost has to have the defendent testify.

[@foghornleg90]

@@FleagleSangria - Had he not got physical first; had they really attacked him; had they blocked HIS ability to retreat; had any of them had a weapon; had he not had a weapon; had he not have had many lies - and attempted to turn it on to the kids from the start, and claim he wasn't even part of the issue... I would agree. But will all that... no way should he have taken the stand. The jury will find him guilty, the only question is OF WHAT.

[@geoffpoole483]

@@FleagleSangria I agree, but the existence of the video showing the chaos; combined with the inconsistent accounts of the teenagers who had been drinking make it hard to fathom out a timeline of events. The fact he lied to police when they arrived won't have helped his case. The law(s) on self defence seem fine on paper but situations where they might apply are often more complex, as this case shows.

[@kentjensen4504]

The level of viciousness and low intelligence on evidence in that chat here suggests we need to re-evaluate automatic voting rights for all citizens.

[@cheyenne9164]

The scary part is that these are potential jurors.

[@margaretlumley1648]

Yes, ​@@cheyenne9164

[@LegendLength]

There's a lot of bad takes on all the controversial trials. It's tough to read through sometimes.

[@thia55]

Yes!! Many keyboard warriors at their finest.

[@kommisar.]

@@thia55 "He should have just done blah and blah like I would have, based on all my experiences in life threatening situations involving multiple strangers viciously attacking me!" I agree 100%. Can't stand these cowards.

[@georginagreaves6373]

He is lying...the kids were beyond, beyond silly... but he was nuts!!! Stabby McNutty!!! ~ He started it by getting in kid's space he hit the girl...all because he didn't like their childish words. Then he started lying about everything!!!

[@amezah6]

He never hit a girl

[@Ceeshore]

beyond silly?

[@jeniwhitt481]

it was NOT proven that he hit the "girl". It was proven she had her hands on him and was pushing him (watch video).

[@lpt369]

seriously? "beyond silly" ... they were despicable

[@Lunapeachsage]

@@jeniwhitt481 "I don't know if I touched her or not. It's possible that I did." All we know is that her glasses were on her face before he possibly hit her, and they weren’t on her face afterwards. Too many people testified to knowing she was hit first for me to believe he didn’t hit her.

[@Kim-tl4wz]

Love how from the first videos of this trial people all thought he was innocent.. Poor old sick man. I didn't buy into it. Now here lies the truth

[@chrismeier3805]

Innocent people don't lie to the police, don't throw evidence away into the woods and don't change their appearance in order to disguise yourself and then leave the scene.

[@wasteoftimehere]

How do you Solomon?

[@kjpeg]

Lol the kids lied to the police too and broke several laws

[@chrismeier3805]

@@kjpeg what did the kids lie about?

[@florenceglenn4627]

Rylie had her intestines protruding from the wound… attempted murder

[@jathanportis8432]

He might have had a chance if he hadn't got on the stand. He is burying himself....

[@citrusbloom7504]

He was already buried, just threw more dirt on himself.

[@BHarly]

12. Jurors disagree with you he’s guilty.

[@holz_name]

5:07:30 ROFL Mr. Miu you need to up your fear scale. Remember what we talked about during the break? The jury isn't impressed by 2 or 3 out of 10 on the fear scale. Please up it to 6 or 7 at least.

[@pearlwhite3009]

Miu's memory is clear, muddled, or absent, depending on the question. This guy is an outright liar. He stabbed those people out of sheer anger and tried to cover his tracks. Guilty as charged.

[@fc92113]

Yasss

[@LuisFernandez-mf2zt]

Only clear when it comes to his fear of being attacked and his safety of course that part, everything else not an ounce of memory of what happened. Crazy the aftermath of him lying to police and hiding his weapon and his interview while in custody shows me a guilty person imo

[@debramason7237]

When he said he started walking toward them and then "picked up the pace" (😅 instead of saying I started charging at them), and especially when he says he stumbled and fell on their intertube, when clearly he stopped, squatted down, and started reaching over their legs/bodies and into the tubes. Hilarious. He just couldn't walk away.

[@GRITBONE]

You didn't watch the kids' testimony did you? LMFAO

[@candykane4271]

@@debramason7237he in sandals in mucky rocky water. Obviously you’ve never been in this river

[@leighgraw9096]

It is soooo obvious that he is STILL lying. He is a strange dude.

[@sixfigureskibum]

Product of post ww2 soviet trama.

[@sheilanorton1240]

Why did he feel he needed to stand his ground as an adult who could have walked away to try to avoid this

[@2532rockon]

Why do drunk kids act like they own the river maybe they shouldvhave helped look for phone

[@sorrywatchingmizkif7429]

@@2532rockon Be quiet

[@BHarly]

@@2532rockon bot

[@mamag186]

agree. it was like he lived out a weird fantasy.

[@BillandLinda7]

@@2532rockonbecause they were drunk kids. A wise person will always walk away from an intoxicated group of strangers, especially if those drunk strangers are acting like jerks.

[@phildeslip728]

He lies too much and has selective memory

[@candykane4271]

Every kid lied also from the get go.

[@zoeknap9777]

@@candykane4271(Zoë’s Mumma) yes the kids lied too ,BUT not HUGE lies like him- “those teens had two knives” “oh someone was stabbed?!!??” .

[@tonyadavis2448]

Miu lied, the kids lied, and the adults lied. However, the video doesn’t lie. Not guilty

[@englishphil2310]

100% This

[@zanpsimer7685]

💯 accurate

[@amylynn732]

The video doesn't capture everything and wasn't started until after his initial contact with them, it weirded them out so they started recording. Based on your logic he wasn't looking for a phone because him saying that was never captured on video.

[@jenylyn72]

yes!

[@lizny9239]

💯

[@mal5678]

The defense kept objecting only to break up the questioning, trying to make it less effective. It really got on my nerves.

[@sassysandra245]

I just feel like Mui was harrassassed by so many at once outta nowhere and all the yelling at him at his age it put him in a state of freeze and confusion, maybe hoping they’d pass but his brain couldn’t even form those thoughts cuz I think of my dad at that age or now my husband at his age of 52 and I think it’d be different if it was one or two guys but being so many young men in their prime an older man knows he doesn’t have a chance against that many and if he were to form the thot to walk away there the fear of being attacked cuz of showing weakness & in almost every decision he could make to these young strong drink fueled men full of testosterone anything would be a sign of weakness, look none of them were afraid to scream out very awful controversial names at him that he believed they thot were true & none of them were afraid to push him in&under water & keep at it & I know that Mui had to be scared for his life that he would die that day with there aggression, cont.

[@justsaying.8017]

Spot on

[@BillandLinda7]

Yeah you clearly didn’t watch the trial. He approached THEM. They were drunk and obnoxious but he grabbed their inner tubes and one of their legs (therefore he made first physical contact) and tried to overturn one of their inner tubes. That caused the group of drunks to stand. NEVER APPROACH A DRUNK GROUP OF PEOPLE OF ANY AGE, unless you are looking for trouble, because that’s ALL you will find. Always walk away from a group of drunk people. Then he, by his own admission punched Maddie (second time HE made physical contact) and one of his witnesses testified that they saw him hit her. If he ended up being scared, it was his own doing.

[@sassysandra245]

@@BillandLinda7he was looking for a friends phone. You are going off rumors, I’m looking at FACTS.

[@amylynn732]

​​​😂😂😂 you're looking at facts? Nope. You have not been watching the trial. Looking for a friend's phone does not give you the right to invade people's personal space, charge at people, grab their leg, grab their tubes, punch a girl, etc.

[@kellym4747]

@@amylynn732 smh

[@cyndilagasse991]

he couldn't see peripheral but he saw people all around lol

[@Kim-tl4wz]

Lol!! Right??!! And that ladies and gentlemen is an oxymoron

[@raymondcross203]

This incident would not have happened if the teenagers had not been drinking , would not have ganged up on the man. It would not have happened if the man himself had been sober ...possibly. It would not have happened if the girls had not gotten in his face and put hands on him, or if the 20 year old hadn't punched him in the face... Fact.. they attacked a man who had a way to defend himself. Who would be on trial if he had died from a heart attack and no one had been stabbed ? The prosecution would be using the same video to try and prosecute the teenagers.

[@LettieB75]

💯

[@Darkch4o5]

I agree 💯

[@terrim5442]

Videoing drunk instigator yelled he hit a woman then they went with it… she was pushed not punched and she pushed first… cop on seen saw she had no marks. She lying to justify their actions

[@ashleyvestal2395]

Agree

[@maireadob]

Completely agree

[@tracey278]

100% Agree also

[@gabrielabolado]

Right on

[@dawnsays1907]

You are correct

[@nottoday777]

I would honestly be surprised if the jury doesn’t find this guy guilty. He’s despicable.

[@budnicholas]

Wrong. A drunk 17 year old attacking him was. But this is wisconsin so I'm not surprised

[@dianebaker7988]

@@budnicholas jury disagrees with you 100%

[@budnicholas]

@DismantleHAARP a drunk 17 year old ended his life too. Perhaps the person who sold him the liquor should be prosecuted

[@dianebaker7988]

@budnicholas yeah, victim blaming is weird. The adult started the physical confrontation because some kids hurt his feelings and now he gets to rot in jail. Justice served.

[@joannaespinoza135]

​@@budnicholasyour ignorance is really shining right now.

[@ashesr7]

I love how much the comments have changed now that he's testified. I don't know why anyone couldn't figure out he was guilty just by watching the video, though. The comments on the earlier parts of this trial have been sickening. You don't get to murder people because they were saying mean words.

[@allthingsharbor]

It was just words until they touched him --- then it was assault. In a river, where one could and was pushed into the water by multiple people such as one sees the man was in the video, the assault could easily have lead to death.

[@lindasue263]

Nope! He's guilty of voluntary manslaughter. Grown man should not have come back and just stand there! He needs to lose his greencard/citizenship or whatever! He constantly lied and is lying on the stand!

[@ashesr7]

@@allthingsharbor he hit the woman in the face first. They were all telling him to go away. He approached them and after they called him names he refused to leave. He never asked for help or told anyone to back off. They told him to leave repeatedly. He chose to take the knife out and stab five people without ever even saying a word. He hid the knife and lied and has continued to lie. I've watched the entire trial, have you?

[@Take_Me_Back_To_The_1980s]

There are such things as fighting words. If these bullies had been taught that they'd still be alive

[@ashesr7]

@@Take_Me_Back_To_The_1980s and there are plenty of legal definitions of fighting words, calling people names does not fall under that.

[@EYGGROUP.]

Nicolae - I told her not to touch me lawyer - why ? N - I didnt give her permission Yet he this man thinks it ok to kill and stab 4 ppl ...wtaf

[@krazykelly4]

I’ll never Understand Americans not being able to defend themselves.

[@jaimhaas5170]

Only Pale/Males are not allowed. Everyone else has special rights.

[@True43]

If he didn't have that weapon, they all would have kept attacking him. The only reason they stopped was because they were injured.

[@VBcrimeandcomfy]

You mean the weapon that he took from the kids?? What a liar! Guilty!

[@dailybackup8372]

He APPROACHED THEM - HE HIT THE GIRL FIRST that's why they attacked him - GUILTY

[@helamorningsun3600]

HE HAD BEEN DRINKING "BEERS ALL DAY..." He killed a kid who was not holding a gun, but was half naked and buzzed. This man deserves jail time.

[@cavandra]

Rubbish!

[@HighPleasure]

@@helamorningsun3600 Why do emotional weirdos bring up unrelated thigns like half naked. Get some help. First off both sides were in that same way its called being in water.

[@allochica]

If they had all been sober, would any of this happened? It’s so sad they all made poor choices.

[@True43]

Bullies in grade school act like that when they are sober. So, yes, it could've still happened.

[@debramason7237]

He got his little feelings hurt

[@CR4SH808]

@@debramason7237 right. too bad you have the duty to fee if in danger, which he had no intentions of doing becuase hey he got his trusty knife.

[@CR4SH808]

flee

[@travispratt6327]

@@CR4SH808 You’re spreading this misinformation on all kinds of comments. First, you don’t inherently have a duty to flee in WI, you only have a duty to flee if you provoked an attack with an unlawful act, which was not proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Second, even if he did provoke and had a duty, it would only be when he used deadly force, at which point he was being pushed down in the river and punched in the head and had no opportunity to flee. You’re all arrogant and excited about this but it’s just a big load of nothing and doesn’t prove he committed murder.

[@Marietta30064]

This trial has been painful to watch. Nicolae Miu was trying to find a lost cell phone. Within a matter of minutes, Jawahn Cockfield and a group of intoxicated teens and 20-year olds, surrounded, punched, slapped and choked Miu, while they laughed and taunted him. - I HOPE civil charges are filed against the people involved, for not only public endangerment and intoxication, but more seriously charged for causing this incident: JAWAHN COCKFIELD (bullying and inciting a mob), MADISON COEN (bullying and inciting a mob), DANTE CARLSON (physical assault), and AJ MARTIN (physical assault). IT'S WRONG the PERPETRATORS ARE FREE, living their lives, going to college, playing sports, etc., while Nicolae Miu, the man THEY ASSAULTED and ATTACKED, is in jail! - Nicolae Miu was 100% the victim in this bully situation. He was defending himself and should be found innocent and released immediately! Please hold the perpetrators accountable and FREE Nicolae Miu!

[@tracey278]

100%

[@sherireedy329]

Can’t release a guilty man

[@jenylyn72]

Yes.

[@sassysandra245]

I agree, if you read my recent comment I fully believe he was put in a very scary situation with that many young men who were drunk and unpredictable again one older man who was just looking for a friends lost phone and even at my age of 48 years I would have been scared outta my mind and who knows what the body does in those situations on whether it’s fight, flight or freeze, everybody has their own opinion on what they “would” have done, but until your actually in such situation you really have not a clue what you or how your body would react!!! Fully NOT guilty! He had no intention to hurt or kill anyone and if those drunken young adults would have just floated on by none of this would have happened!

[@jenylyn72]

@@sassysandra245 yes!!!

[@citrusbloom7504]

There’s a reason his attorney looked so uncomfortable about him (Miu) testifying. Wow, what an unmitigated disaster he was on the stand. The guy gives off a super weird vibe that’s obvious 😖

[@candykane4271]

Why is the state requesting lower charges if it’s so hot?

[@lucyElaine5656]

He knows his feelings. The other people aren't to have feelings😮

[@sheilanorton1240]

Miu seems very calculated in his answers and quick to lie until he witnesses the video

[@sherireedy329]

Absolutely 💯

[@BHarly]

👍

[@BHarly]

Yes

[@jeniwhitt481]

so were all of the prosecution witnesses.

[@BHarly]

@@jeniwhitt481 the teens and young adults are not on trial he is.

[@breannakerr]

Was on his side until he took the stand/shown interrogation video. Think taking the stand was a big mistake from his lawyers.

[@Glocks.Scotch.and.Wristwatch]

Not guilty. F around and Find Out. This generation of youth need to understand real life ain’t social media.

[@Lisa_leelee]

Had his knife out and Ken before anyone laid a finger on him. He’s a liar as well. If self defense why lie do pathologically

[@Lisa_leelee]

Social media? Really? You have no idea what you’re talking about

[@MrPaultopp]

They used him for entertainment….not so funny now eh ?……..Not guilty

[@traveltm]

Don’t bother with evidence or what happened in this case. Hateful towards younger generation, belief all bad therefore any time something happens automatically say kids deserved it. It’s disturbing.

[@sherireedy329]

@charizards5146mind boggling for sure

[@traveltm]

He knows the words. I was fearing for my life. Says it knowing only chance he has. Yes the boys were obnoxious but he knows he did wrong that is why he lies. Not just one lie.he tries misdirection goes on about his surgery in detail.

[@williamwalcott8808]

He went up to them. A man my age approached a group of teens. I am not saying it was premeditated but maybe people will question twice before they approach other people's kids. IF a man his (or my) age can't handle a little taunting by teenagers so that he feels he needs to run up to them, then he needs to grow up a bit himself.

[@BrattyTude]

He was looking for a phone clearly and I bet you they told him they had it

[@mamag186]

@@BrattyTude a phone in a particular spot in the river? a phone in a floatable phone case, with a snorkel?

[@maireadob]

@@mamag186There are a lot of rocks in the river. I would be looking underneath the water too if it was me.

[@Marietta30064]

Yes, Miu seemed odd approaching the younger group with his goggles in hand, but he was trying to find a lost cell phone his rafting group had been using to listen to music. Miu took the goggles and snorkel to pan the area. The situation escalated quickly. Jawahn Cockfield, and the teenage boys, surrounded Miu, laughing and taunting him. Miu was punched, slapped and choked, as he tried to retreat. It was a bully situation, mixed with alcohol and teenage testosterone, that ended poorly.

[@BrattyTude]

@@mamag186 wym a specific spot? i said what i said

[@traveltm]

Leading to the extreme. Even though practiced I’m sure still want to maneuver sure. Might as well hand him a script or just testify yourself which is pretty much what lawyer doing.

[@maireadob]

Ya and like the prosecution didn’t practically hand feed the kids their lies.

[@travispratt6327]

That’s why there’s a cross examination. Did you see anything that wasn’t consistent with the defenses examination?

[@careyculbert5071]

I agree - it felt like the defense attorney was straight up testifying

[@DragonsJRS]

If there wasn’t a video this case it would’ve been his word against theirs. It’s odd that his fb feed had so much about guns n the right to self defence. I think he had no fear of the group becuz he knew he had his knife n the rule about self defence. He lied about everything, he tried to leave the scene, and he accused the boys of bringing a knife. He did not have to keep stabbing everyone until his path was clear in every direction. If he had of just talked none of this would’ve happened. Guilty.

[@travispratt6327]

You stated a bunch of half truths nothing to do with the crux of the case then said “Guilty.”

[@my_name_is_rhyme]

​@@travispratt6327half truths? Literally everything this person said are the facts of the case.

[@DragonsJRS]

@@travispratt6327 did u watch the same trial we did? Or are you just mad ur friend is probably going to jail? Let’s see - video, knife, not walking away/not talking, stabbing x 5, left the scene, n claimed self-defence. Did I miss anything?

[@GirlLovesToGame]

40:00:51 disgusting show of bullying. People just don't get it, you poke a bear your gonna receive repercussion. I actually feel bad for this guy, but obviously feel bad for the deceased.

[@traveltm]

I’m glad asked. He chose to turn around when called a raper. Yes it’s rude but that was again bad decision that he made. He was upset. Yes every right to be upset. But be an adult. Just leave. But he rushed at them. Now tries to say thought it was phone he was looking for. It’s BS. then now adds in he stumbled. He is caught in his lies. He also knew he had knife. I hope jury really listens to him, his attitude and how conveniently he doesn’t remember what you said some stiff and in others remembers stuff in a way that shows him in best light.

[@pinklady5795]

After watching him on the stand! He should have kept his behind at the defense table! He was NOT believable at all! Him saying he didn't have a gun, did it for me! GUILTY!

[@lindasue263]

💯💯💯

[@JetLagRecords]

Law&Crime Network, I really liked this video! I subscribed too!

[@celenebutler1187]

3:50:42 “She didn’t even attempt to reprimand the children for yelling”. Also, CHILDREN. His words.

[@DrewPNeck]

But also why would that be the priority? Shaming the kids instead of getting everyone separated first? That stuff could’ve been handled AFTER the groups were apart.

[@LivinProoof]

Doesn't make them children by definition.

[@celenebutler1187]

@@LivinProoof It speaks to how he viewed them as children.

[@user-ew9lm9pu9k]

Zombie staring in the sky, stabbing kids and pulling the knife straight up so they become disemboweled. What a monster.

[@longliveducko]

u are a clown my friend

[@Marietta30064]

You must be one of the "zombies", living in that area, hearing all the local hearsay. If you actually listen to what happened, you'd understand and agree, Miu was the VICTIM of a mob attack.

[@918colas]

Classic 😂 “I don’t remember”

[@christinebrophy]

I can't understand why the detective didnt take a blood sample Im sure he said as soon as the interview started that "he had been drinking beer in the sun"! Weird

[@CR4SH808]

right no one questioned his alcohol consumption which some how the defendant managed to get thrown out.

[@sixfigureskibum]

He decided to use the knife before he took it out of his pocket

[@guerillamaddox3574]

It just ended for the day. Closing arguments start tomorrow morning. Not Guilty

[@margaretlumley1648]

I really like this judge. I think he's fair, and really has beautiful control of the proceedings

[@chunk2596]

Nic is plain WEIRD

[@travispratt6327]

And that mindset is why someone lost their life. You’d think you’d have learned not to judge people unfairly.

[@mick8888V]

I'll be glad when I never hear the word "Weird" ever again.

[@tracey278]

@@travispratt6327 exactly well said

[@mikespam8271]

​@@travispratt6327 couldn't agree more with you

[@TheRightAreRight]

They bullied and harassed this guy. He got scared and lashed out in self defence. Its a pretty open shut case imo...

[@alanboody7004]

"lashed out' isn't a term that goes with self-defense, but he did lash out after his ego was bruised.

[@galevalenti7759]

I agree

[@sirshep4915]

You got poor opinions lol

[@Steven_Williams_]

He stabbed 5 people, 1 of whom is dead. No injuries on his person. Lied about the kids having knives to the police (among multiple other lies), tried to hide the murder weapon, then tried to escape without any repercussions or conversation with the police. If you think this is an open/shut case of self-defense, you are insane.

[@taratrudeau2029]

Lmfaoo tell me you didn't watch all the evidence without telling me you didn't watch all the evidence 🤣

[@kiraleigh9966]

HE CONSTANTLY SAYS HE DOESNT REMEMBER ANYTHING FROM WHAT HAPPENED (only from video) BUT STATED HE REMEMBERS HE COULD SMELL THE ALCOHOL ON HER BREATH. Interesting detail the state missed.

[@maireadob]

It’s called PTSD. Look it up.

[@Lackesse]

@@maireadob Or selective memory for his benefit, which is the case here.

[@sherireedy329]

@@maireadob😂 PTSD from disemboweling people possibly. He should have kept his knife at home or in the truck like he said he left it…one of hundreds of lies!

[@ashesr7]

I also find it hard to even believe he'd be able to smell the alcohol since he said he'd been drinking beer all day too. The only time I've been able to smell booze on other people is when I'm sober and they've been drinking.

[@gb747gb]

Did you see any of the kids interviews? The top comment was to rename the river Amnesia River because all six did the same thing

[@teya661]

This was self defense. They should not have put their hands on that man.

[@teya661]

Definitely a tragedy on all sides

[@New_Gaming_Chair]

Teens were drinking and bullying. Found out real quick

[@CR4SH808]

doesnt make his actions right.

[@abcdef-hn6hu]

@@CR4SH808 neither the kids actions. So easy no one guilty and let it slide

[@cyndilagasse991]

he was so scared so bad that he turned his back to the crowd and grabbed his knife

[@justsaying.8017]

It’s hard to watch……he looks terrified….body just responding….. the whole things a mess….he got swarmed. Such a shame 🤍

[@Pjc0869]

He looks terrified because he killed my son ask yourself x

[@justsaying.8017]

@@Pjc0869 You are Isaac’s mum??!!

[@BloodTithingsGaming]

The judge looks like the judge from Night Court

[@christina5kids16grands]

Has anyone noticed one of the defense atty's was Kyle Rittenhouse's atty as well? It's Corey Chirafisi, and I KNEW I recognized his voice!

[@Raquel-ry5ry]

This is why uou dont tell shits to the police. they are never on your side and dont fall for tgeir intimidation either.

[@traveltm]

Even when asked he lies. He absolutely didn’t have a knife.

[@MrPaultopp]

The same as the young men then ….they lied threw their teeth ….

[@MrPaultopp]

So would I in reality…He was pushed to his limit

[@GoldennnBoy]

What do you know ? Were you there ? Everybody is an expert behind the computer ….smh 🙄 FREE THAT MAN!!

[@BHarly]

Yup wacky af

[@BHarly]

@@GoldennnBoy you weren’t there either clown

[@cyndilagasse991]

lets ask him again if he was here in court during his murder trial

[@jennyfletcher5573]

Rewatched the interrogation video and he told the detective the arresting officer did not read him Miranda Rights when they arrested him. I was right. He asked about a lawyer and she kept going

[@CrazyMaryJo]

He didn’t ask for a state provided attorney when he realized one could not be available until next business day.

[@BillandLinda7]

He chose to keep talking when he realized that it was going to take time to get a court appointed attorney, they didn’t force him to talk.

[@tellmeMarty]

Judge is so biased, hurts to hear

[@paulabrinzo7457]

Not guilt

[@LivinProoof]

Not guilty.

[@222radar]

He did NOTHING to deescalate the situation. Guilty, under Chapter 609; sub-chapters: 609.221 to 609.224, and homicide; sub-chapters: 609.185 to 609.498.

[@anitavarley1975]

I’ll say one thing I do know for absolute certainty is if he’s had a triple bypass surgery he’s not that much scar tissue, my dad had the same surgery and his scar was from his neck to his groin

[@sassysandra245]

I believe Mr. Mui was put in a very scary situation with that many young men who were drunk and unpredictable against one older man who was just looking for a friends lost phone and even at my age of 48 years I would have been scared outta my mind if the roles were reversed and who knows what the body does in those situations on whether it’s fight, flight or freeze, everybody has their own opinion on what they “would” have done, but until your actually in such situation you really have not a clue what you or how your body would react!!! Fully NOT guilty! He had no intention to hurt or kill anyone that day and if those drunken young adults would have just floated on by none of this would have happened!

[@xavierb9061]

You are like me 30 minutes ago. 1 hes cumpulsive liar. 2 he approached them with a knife. Put together hes more questionable than jus self defense

[@jesusdebbielizzy]

NOT GUILTY BUT THE JURY WILL PROBALLY FIND HIM GUILTY. WHAT A MISCHARTER OF JUSTICE!!! DO THE RIGHT THING JURORS!!

[@Steven_Williams_]

Mischarter eh?

[@ms.demeanors]

So a jury doesn't find a person guilty on feelings right? U know this? So if the jury finds him guilty, it's justice. They were presented ALL evidence, the defendant even testified. All it's crossed all i's dotted.

[@BHarly]

What ? 👀🤡

[@ashesr7]

Not guilty because some teenagers were mean to him? This man stabbed five people.

[@chuckgunn1359]

literally guilty all the way