I was thinking about never posting this because I thought this was too long. However, I've seen that some people do like the longer debates...so here you go!
@alden.86553 жыл бұрын
Fire
@luckner143 жыл бұрын
😭🙏🏾🙏🏾
@mengstrom17503 жыл бұрын
MORE MORE AND MORE, all the debates there are I live for lol
@killking24143 жыл бұрын
Rob true form 6:48 his eyes dud
@JK_0733 жыл бұрын
When Pat and Rob team up, it’s gonna look bad for the others lmao.
@Dfenshmirtz53 жыл бұрын
Bro this is like Madara and Hashirama teaming up. Wraps
@pauldee75042 жыл бұрын
@@Dfenshmirtz5 Tobirama: *confused Senju*
@nightingale20982 жыл бұрын
34:23 that “Alright” was the sound of defeat
@mlegend57412 жыл бұрын
For once Rob is completely right😂😂😂😂😂😂
@harri2k1362 жыл бұрын
im late asf to this but he def aint lmao
@mlegend57412 жыл бұрын
@@harri2k136 bruh I don’t even remember what this was about lol
@harri2k1362 жыл бұрын
@@mlegend5741 I mean its kinda obv lol
@mlegend57412 жыл бұрын
@@harri2k136 don’t remember but if I agreed with it I stand by it
@sazude22 жыл бұрын
@@harri2k136 Like.. The followers and D riders of rttv are as dumb as them.
@jagibbs18473 жыл бұрын
Rob and Pat wit the casual body bag. Surprisingly they argue with each other the most but they won this debate easily. If the debate was the entire leaf vs Uchiha ofcourse leaf would win. But to debate 100 Anbu vs Uchiha it's almost suicide mission for the Anbu.
@joshlee76663 жыл бұрын
Also when obito solo'd a bunch of Mist village special forces as a teen. 100 Anbu would get bodied so fast by Obito and Itachi. The debate I'd want then to have is if Minato was still around, would've the Uchiha massacre still happened? I honestly think he's one of the only ones who could've killed the entire clan by himself with his teleportation jutsu
@whowontho3 жыл бұрын
@@joshlee7666 Nah the Uchiha clan massacre happened because of the bad blood after the nine tails attack. Nobody knew of Tobi’s involvement but they knew a sharingan had to be used to control the nine tails, so the leaf was suspicious of the entire clan. That’s what caused the massacre
@mariogrant96253 жыл бұрын
Fugaku could of control the nine tails it’s slot of ways the uchihas could of won regardless of how many they were against that’s why they ask shisui then danzo ask itachi
@kuckoomonster70582 жыл бұрын
No wellz debate was 100 Anbu in a SNEAK attack. The Anbu black ops were made for stealth missions silent killing tactics. Itachi would be on the Anbu, kakashi was also in the Anbu at that time with mangekyo sharingan. Itachi made up his mind abt killing the clan the moment they were accusing him of killing shisui. Itachi would be the one who goes after his father and instead of obito kakashi would be the one taking out the police force. And the other Anbu could take out the civilians, it’s not really a suicide mission. Tho I do think not all Anbu would survive
@damianc6697 ай бұрын
Ur saying itachi is stronger than 100 anbu?
@galleoni79553 жыл бұрын
6:47 peep the crosseye from Rob lol
@MelonMuncher_112 жыл бұрын
𝕃𝕄𝔽𝔸𝕆 𝕎𝕋𝔽 💀💀
@thehighground79262 жыл бұрын
I saw it😭💀
@bennymario5876 Жыл бұрын
Bro 😂
@ItsAnEndlessWorld2 жыл бұрын
Rob is right. Never understood how people praised itachi... horrible reasoning for genocide
@Axel-ye8tt Жыл бұрын
He chose to kill his family for the greater good if you think the uchicha wins the coup then guess which enemy village comes after
@Chiefteeth1 Жыл бұрын
@@Axel-ye8tthis family consisted of atleast a hundred people including innocent children. There’s absolutely zero reason the uchiha clan couldn’t have been defeated by the Anbu and jiraya without killing rhmw
@cmack1889 Жыл бұрын
Destroy uchiha or let uchiha destroy leaf .
@mcfcDJ5111 ай бұрын
he’s the goat
@perccobainАй бұрын
no had itachi never done that there would be no leaf village or uchiha clan. they would’ve been engulfed in war.
@hakami14263 жыл бұрын
What Rob said kind of made sense. Why let one side get all the casualties? However a fair counterargument was that they had tense relations witht the Cloud village and if civil war broke out the Cloud might have taken advantage of this and attacked them after when they're weak.
@ShakaZ3D2 жыл бұрын
What would've been great is if Obito convinced the Uchiha to defect and faked everyone's death except for Itachi's parents.
@CenturionMariusVinicius Жыл бұрын
The thing is they're called Hidden Villages for a reason, but suddenly everyone knows where they at and are threatening to invade. That's wild to me.
@getsugaallen6612 Жыл бұрын
that argument is false , all the times in the story when konoah was weak no village ever attacked lol.
@mrstrangeworld59775 ай бұрын
@@getsugaallen6612that's not true
@yelhsanosnhoj66024 ай бұрын
Why didn’t they after the Nine Tails attacked the village? That’s not a valid argument. Itachi was playing God. There wouldn’t be any civil war if the government wasn’t oppressing the Uchiha in the first place.
@Unkwn_everwhere Жыл бұрын
Wellz was a cornball this argument how did rob dismantle him like that 😭
@mrstrangeworld59775 ай бұрын
he didn't
@shyguywhite5 ай бұрын
he a naruto fanboy
@kobeom79533 жыл бұрын
Jerry always does that fake ass Seth rogen laugh when he gets heated
@xnvss3 жыл бұрын
I would love to be in a debate with these guys 😂 So many valuable points they left. Fugaku was around the same level as Minato and he said himself his Mangekyo is strong enough to control the 9 tails so he was fully capable of fighting back he just didn’t want to fight his son he just accepted his death. If Danzo didn’t kill of Shisui he deffly would’ve fought back for his clan. Itachi specifically wanted Obito to kill the higher rank Uchihas and Itachi basically killed all civilians Uchiha members besides his dad, so there’s a lot of points they left out that could’ve changed the tides in this argument.
@mcfcDJ5111 ай бұрын
exactly but it’s all good they dont get it
@leohh2 жыл бұрын
ROBS FACE IN THE INTRO ALWAYS GOT ME LAUGHING
@KdogTheLegend3 жыл бұрын
their arguments be the best lol they be getting mad loud
@pksovereign1853 жыл бұрын
I know Wellz went into shippuden thinking everyone else would ride itachi like he does but the exact opposite happened more or less. Itachi is kewl and all but he doesn’t need the praise he gets.
@kjiggidy57193 жыл бұрын
Well too bad he gets it because he’s a well written established character. Get over it.
@corruptedbible13913 жыл бұрын
@@kjiggidy5719 - Was Retconned Into A Good Guy For Fanservice/Shippuden
@despair_ts18232 жыл бұрын
@@corruptedbible1391 Facts!
@ulquiorra12352 жыл бұрын
@@corruptedbible1391 nigga u sound dumb asf that makes zero sense
@Axel-ye8tt Жыл бұрын
@@corruptedbible1391 he was never a good guy you didn’t know his perspective
@isaiascaines32993 жыл бұрын
26:40 This so fucking funny bc they do know more then them😂
@archerz2.0123 жыл бұрын
If the leaf village attacked the uchiha they would've lost easily. The casualties would trigger mass awakenings of mangyekyou sharingan and it would be a wrap for the leaf village. Even if they couldn't use Susanoo.
@BlackStar-gv1wl3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I can’t even imagine that would’ve been a dope panel tho, like 6 or 7 susanoo walking around a destroyed leaf village 😳
@aureharrow32883 жыл бұрын
So why didn't they awaken it when itachi went around slaughtering their love ones?
@djshadow32603 жыл бұрын
@@aureharrow3288 so tsukuyomi plus itachi pulling a sneak attack
@hakami14263 жыл бұрын
Yep my first thought.
@kuckoomonster70583 жыл бұрын
@@djshadow3260 yes. Itachi is apart of the leaf he would chose the leaf over the uchiha any day
@saxibsaxib8852 Жыл бұрын
Finally a Rob W. Itachi is worse the hitler
@AdamSed64 Жыл бұрын
Exactly Hitler didn't massacre the entirety of his people
@z4v3kАй бұрын
9:15 what is Rob smoking? He just said Itachi and Hitler are the same because they ''slaughtered'' a race of people because of their race. Itachi literally killed his own family (not a race of people), while Hitler ''killed'' Jews (a religious group, who were also communists), so both couldn't be more different. Itachi is more like Mao Zedong.
@ssgss036 ай бұрын
33:07 DAMN good observation
@BlackStar-gv1wl3 жыл бұрын
Bro the thumbnail gets me every time 😭😭
@jadedcode89533 жыл бұрын
Nice! I've been trying to make better thumbnails.
@BlackStar-gv1wl3 жыл бұрын
@@jadedcode8953 lmao keep it up this one makes me chuckle every time I see it on my feed 😂
@only1needed3 жыл бұрын
Rob and pat wins again
@ShakaZ3D2 жыл бұрын
Rob is actually quite perceptive fam. Itachi is absolutely Hitler and they could be compared. Their motivation regardless of intention was the same at the core and both resolved that the only way to achieve their goal was to massacre a people. They both were operating under the illusion of patriotism and were used by the people behind the scenes to make a preemptive strike against their own people. Shout out to King Rob.
@mrstrangeworld59775 ай бұрын
no it wasn't itachi didn't build and part take in prograndga or concentration camps like Hitler did very bad point
@tuilleri4 ай бұрын
@@mrstrangeworld5977he did partake through danzo
@z4v3kАй бұрын
Did you just say Hitler killed his own people? The Jews being his people???
@alden.86553 жыл бұрын
Eating good this week lmao
@GrandpaBarret3 жыл бұрын
Rob was on wellz ass. Haha I love it
@maskedlegend46603 жыл бұрын
Bro the only thing that was similar between hitler and itachi is that they both committed genocide
@chongpower74583 жыл бұрын
I like you show some clips to support rob's point.
@jadedcode89533 жыл бұрын
Im glad you liked that! I was trying to add context to what they were talking about :)
@johnsonadefemi3 жыл бұрын
they literally stated in the manga that fugaku was a contender for hokage but because he was an uchiha it didnt fall through
@yelhsanosnhoj66024 ай бұрын
Which is a retcon because it was Orochimaru the village elders wanted but Hiruzen overrode the decision for Minato
@spencermason72443 жыл бұрын
Wells the anime king did take an L after that point saying they weren't killed for being in the Uchiha Clan
@songkipac2 жыл бұрын
I know this is super old but, They weren’t killed for being the Uchiha clan. They were killed for planning a coup.
@spencermason72442 жыл бұрын
@@songkipac yeah the whole Uchiha clan was planning a coup
@ulquiorra12353 жыл бұрын
omg I remember this debate😭
@noer.69543 ай бұрын
Nah, the Uchiha only have themselves to blame. They got what they deserved
@bobmarkerson3 жыл бұрын
Actually Danzo is the Hitler of the show, while Itachi is a Batman version of Jesus
@emekaamerican8633 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Batman and Jesus killed people.
@chongpower74583 жыл бұрын
oww oww batman version of jesus? lol stop over praising him he still killed his own clan.
@somelegend87753 жыл бұрын
Definitely not
@killking24143 жыл бұрын
Don’t compare him to jesus jesus has the power to stop wars but he lets them happen millions die every time danzo told itachi im killing your clan anyway but if you do it il let sasuke live if you don’t the whole clan dies with sasuke
@redguardoverall68073 жыл бұрын
@@killking2414 You definitely must be a Muslim
@JK_0733 жыл бұрын
Ppl love to pin the things Itachi did onto Danzo.
@MrSupertallblackman3 жыл бұрын
Rob is often wrong but he also makes points.
@bruhhh83263 жыл бұрын
saying itachi is hitler is not a good point
@Salik963 жыл бұрын
@@bruhhh8326 That's why he said sometimes he makes good points.
@bruhhh83263 жыл бұрын
@@Salik96 most of the points he makes is already shown on the show the dude is not smart
@JK_0733 жыл бұрын
@@bruhhh8326 Itachi committed genocide right?
@bruhhh83263 жыл бұрын
@@JK_073 because he was forced did hitler do that?no he killed more people than itachi so stfu
@Unkwn_everwhere Жыл бұрын
Rob packing clowns like usual
@joshawnthabeast7 ай бұрын
Not all the time but he cooked with this
@getsugaallen66123 жыл бұрын
Itachi plan made no sense to me, mind you the village would've still been destroyed if nagato didn't revive anyone. He could've at least left some babies and kids alive or the old ppl like what threat do the pose to the leaf...??? The only reason Sasuke became a criminal is because you literally traumatized him put him in a genjutsu tortured him and on top of that you came back to put more hatred inside of him and make him feel weak 😂 he's a whole dummy.
@luckner143 жыл бұрын
The uchiha’s sharingan is triggered through intense emotions, when itachi killed everyone that trauma caused sasuke to unlock his sharingan. He was helping sasuke like Snape to Harry
@getsugaallen66123 жыл бұрын
@@luckner14 he wasn't helping him at all lol Sasuke Sharingan awakened during the zabuza arc, madara Sharingan literally awakened just by breaking his friendship with hashirama, sarada Sharingan just by seeing her father for the first time, obito by having to protect his friends. he would've awakened it normally like all the ppl I stated here AND he did bc he awakened it when protecting naruto. There was no need to torture him for hours and make him see his parents death over and over. the only thing he did was give Sasuke a bunch of mental issues growing up. I really think kishimoto planned on itachi to be an actual villain but then changed his mind on it.
@skinnymelo3 жыл бұрын
Bro what? Itachi killed all the Uchiha including the kids because he was able to read the stone tablet manipulated by Zetsu. He knew how cursed the sharingan’s power was and to avoid further suffering for his clan or a possible future coup that could arise from the creation of another corrupt Uchiha, he killed everyone. There are three reasons why he left Sasuke alive. One was because he had intel on the leaf which he could use to keep Danzo at bay and have Sasuke protected by the Leaf while they trained him to become strong enough to kill Itachi and avenge the clan which would be a fitting end. The second reason was because he had one Kotoamatsukami which would force Sasuke to protect the village regardless of his will if the life he envisioned for Sasuke after their fight didn’t turn out as planned. And the third was because he did share a small level of annoyance with his clan and felt it would be more peaceful for everyone if they were just gone, but he couldn’t kill Sasuke or let him die to someone’s hands knowingly because he cared for him so much. When he’s reanimated he literally says he has regrets lmao and in his LN his emotions for his clan and people he was close with go even more in depth. Idk how you can say it makes no sense when almost every part of it ties in perfectly with his character, the story of the series, the history of their clan, the lore, and the other characters involved with the Uchiha. Obviously he traumatized Sasuke and some of that was to be expected, but that is why at the end of his character arc, he himself says he takes all the blame and won’t manipulate Sasuke anymore because all it has done is hurt him more than help. Also if Itachi didn’t kill the Uchiha himself, Danzo would’ve which would’ve only resulted in more bloodshed because his father would actually fight back instead of just letting himself get offed. He didn’t have some type of choice, he made the best of what he could’ve done. If he had used the Kotoamatsukami on the Uchiha, he knew that they would eventually come to quarrels again just like Danzo anticipated and just like the stone tablet said which is something Shisui knew as well.
@luckner143 жыл бұрын
@@getsugaallen6612 wrong, sasuke first USED it in the Zabuza arc but he awakened his sharingan the night of the massacre and u can easily google that. And all the ppl you stated prove my point on the sharingan being awakened through intense emotions soo🤷🏾♂️
@getsugaallen66123 жыл бұрын
@@skinnymelo that's not why he killed them all you make no sense, plenty of good Uchihas like tobirama friend, itachi girlfriend, his mom, the old people.
@RonnRetrobro3 жыл бұрын
The books written after Naruto talking about the side characters say Fugaku rivals Minato in power so no itachi could not beat him. Just like Sasuke didn't really beat itachi sound familiar? Also to be honest the anbu is overrated and most of them are trash. Itaci and kikashi were good but it has been said that Sai is a top anbu black ops member and part of danzo's Fondation. If that holds true you really think alot of ninja lower than Sai tier are bearing the Uchiha? The anbu would have died however prime 3rd hokage, kikashi, all three sanin and danzo together would have won. Fugaku is the only uchia of the dead clan stated to have the mankeyo sharigan. The others do not have one
@kuckoomonster70583 жыл бұрын
You can’t compare sai ninja because that wasn’t even their time. THAT Anbu had Itachi himself for one because he would choose the village over the uchiha clan, kakashi who ALSO had mangekyo sharingan which has similar abilities to obito. And a bunch of other Anbu clan that was strong enough to be in league with kakashi and itachi himself.
@kuckoomonster70583 жыл бұрын
And if it was a war let’s not forget that’s during minato level and if I’m not wrong tobirama is alive too, the man who BODIED Madaras younger brother.
@kuckoomonster70583 жыл бұрын
Not to mention danzo who by that time had his arm of sharingan and shisuis other eye who had izanagi. The third hokage. AND Minato, who was rival to itachis father
@kuckoomonster70583 жыл бұрын
The leaf is stacked
@RonnRetrobro3 жыл бұрын
@@kuckoomonster7058 around this time the first and second hokage were dead. Also Minato was already reaper death sealed with half of kurama. Sasuke was a kid when the clan was killed and him and Naruto are the same age. Danzo got his arm from killing the Uchiha and shishi eye was not implanted yet. We know this because Danzo said orochimaru ran experiments to find a way to do the surgery on other ninja. Once he learned how to he did so for danzo
@jeremiahaugustin73373 жыл бұрын
Rob and pat
@jagibbs18473 жыл бұрын
Rob and Pat wit the casual body bag. Surprisingly they argue with each other the most but they won this debate easily
@bruhhh83263 жыл бұрын
@@jagibbs1847 nice joke
@bruhhh83263 жыл бұрын
nice joke
@yourhighness927 Жыл бұрын
The one time I actually agree with Rob
@Dfenshmirtz53 жыл бұрын
26:58 Rob is the goat man😂😂😂😂
@800gaming-y2k2 жыл бұрын
They politically couldn't launch a all out attack and if itachi cousins shisui and obito is that strong you could only imagine the rest of the family
@ssjkillluah59353 жыл бұрын
Fugaku aslo would be able to use the susano if he has the MS and we know how madara and sasuke shit on alot of people with the susano
@patoshippuden71993 жыл бұрын
Maybe for the first time Rob won the debate
@dustyuzumaki64592 жыл бұрын
Fugaku had the nickname crazy eyes and feared by my most he alone would have taken out the anbu
@UnknownNX3 жыл бұрын
Itachi: *Not a racist* Rob: HITLER!!! Danzo: *Is a racist* Rob: We don't talk about that ?????
@JK_0733 жыл бұрын
Do you know what the term genocide means?
@UnknownNX3 жыл бұрын
@@JK_073 clearly, but Itachi was FORCED to take a side, and obey Danzo's instruction to kill his own clan. Itachi was a pacifist, not to mention he's against war entirely. He wanted to proceed with Shisui's wish in stopping the Uchiha clan using his MS and peacefully end the coup. On the other hand, Danzo wanted war, he despised the Uchiha and mentioned how he would use the Sharinigan way better than any other Uchiha. If it weren't for Danzo's order to kill the Uchiha clan and take Shisui's eye, then none of this would've happened. Itachi can't be called Hitler solely for killing his own clan. Danzo can most definitely be called Hitler due to his hate towards the Uchiha, he caused so much pain and suffering many characters such as Naruto, Nagato, Sasuke, etc., and finally he "killed" the clan all cause he wanted power and become Hokage. Want more?
@momogotgame50483 жыл бұрын
@@UnknownNX bruhhh you definitely need to check what is the definition of pacifist
@UnknownNX2 жыл бұрын
@@momogotgame5048 Bro, literally Tobi/Obito mentioned to Sasuke that Itachi was a pacifist and was against war. So I don't know where you coming from saying that I don't know the definition of being a pacifist
@momogotgame50482 жыл бұрын
@@UnknownNX bruhh idk no pacifist that will kill innocent peoplewhat the hell. And obito was obviously trying to get sasuke to heat up for him to destroy the village like how you didn't get that. Itachi is type of the guy that Beleive that the mean justify the end
@amzaptooa69992 жыл бұрын
Jerry was def mad😂😂😂
@TheSageSpartan2 жыл бұрын
You cannot compare a FICTIONAL character to REAL LIFE that’s so backwards lmao
@freneticgamer4174 Жыл бұрын
Of course you can when you're making an analogy. You're not actively trying to say that the fictional character has the same level of import when doing that ffs.
@kuckoomonster70583 жыл бұрын
I’m wit wellz on this bro, 100 Anbu would definitely take out the uchiha. Let’s not forget who in that shit, itachi for one because he would fight for the leaf village knowing how he feels about the uchiha vs village, kakashi, who ALSO had the mangekyo sharingan. A bunch of ninjas with special abilities shinos clan, hyuga clan. People with all types of abilities. Also we can’t forget that if it was a war Tobirama could probably take itachis father. Let’s not act like tobirama didn’t body madaras brother, who ALSO had mangekyo sharingan.
@archerz2.0123 жыл бұрын
For every uchiha the Anbu wouldve killed an uchiha mangyekyo would have activated. The anbu would get pimp slapped after a couple minutes
@kuckoomonster70583 жыл бұрын
@@archerz2.012 ur still not understanding it just like rob and pat. It’s a sneak attack bro. The Anbu was made for silent killing tactics. So yes if they sent out Anbu in the middle of the night itd be the same result. The only problem would’ve been fugaku and since itachis an Anbu they could just send him still and they wouldn’t fight back.
@kjiggidy57193 жыл бұрын
@@kuckoomonster7058 I agree with Wellz too 💯
@somelegend87753 жыл бұрын
If itachi disagreed, and sided with his clan, he already would know the plan, so it wouldn’t be a sneak attack anymore. And itachi needed obito to help too, since obito was the one who killed the police force. And at the end of the day, whichever side won, the leaf village would still be at fault. Some shinobi from the other clan aren’t gonna be okay with carrying out the order of assassinating a clan. Only if the Uchiha fight first. And even then, itachi killing the clan only made it better for the leaf because itachi took the blame. It covers up the fact that the leaf are willing to assasinate a whole clan once they go rouge.
@kuckoomonster70583 жыл бұрын
@@somelegend8775 yea it wouldn’t but knowing itachi as a character in this show he sees the entire leaf village as more of a family then just the uchiha clan. You can’t really put that scenario in because that’s not who itachi is you know? He had the mind of a hokage at what age 7??
@lukeboeding27283 жыл бұрын
Ya because Hitler was Jewish... also Itachi was out of time... his dad didn't talk to him until after Danzo's goons told him he was out of time... Itachi gave up everything just like Rob can't give up an argument... that said don't change a thing... love this channel!
@funkyow47723 жыл бұрын
Lmao Lellz got bodied on this debate and got exposed on how small brainer he is, it’s sad that Narutards won’t admit how poorly written Itachi and Pain is..
@Anonymous-bm6mv3 жыл бұрын
No they’re not lol 😂😂
@JayH-he1fz3 жыл бұрын
This guy is obviously just hating lol
@hakami14263 жыл бұрын
I don't agree that Itachi and Pain are badly written, but Wellz and Jerry definitely lost this argument.
@GrandpaBarret3 жыл бұрын
I think the characters are written very well. But the show emphasises Itachi to be cool instead of a child with issues deep down
@Axel-ye8tt Жыл бұрын
@@GrandpaBarret itachi wasn’t a hero he was tragic man who wasn’t evil like the org Naruto said he was itachi is showing how unfair and sad the ninja world is and how war and predijuce make us do terrible things
@FarahRace3 жыл бұрын
Rob bodied
@killking24143 жыл бұрын
Ok so lats but rob in room with hitler and give hitler gun and put wallz with itache in room and give itache a gun lats see what happens
@godwinmohay8006 Жыл бұрын
There wouldn’t be Naruto without Itachi’s path and decision, it’s really messed up what he did. Alliance would have never been there between national Garaa would have been just a weapon Many ninjas would try any sneak attack leaf village and snatch Naruto too People would have been exposed to war like Itachi and pain (nagato) Revenge would have been much more serious Akatsuki members would have grown larger And many more...
@horsekfobster78232 жыл бұрын
Either Itachi’s story was retconned or he’s the worst double agent in history.
@doodooheadcootiequeen2 жыл бұрын
Still baffles me that rob compared itachi (fictional character) to hitler
@arongebremedhin9764 Жыл бұрын
rob has always been a clown, he put Boruto over One Piece and Naruto
@markjohnson3196 Жыл бұрын
Genocide is Genocide
@TheMiles653 жыл бұрын
I mean tbh Hitler soldiers did have a choice: follow orders or disobey them and die (or whatever they did to them), which is pretty much what danzo was saying to itachi. And Itachi and Hitler can’t really be compared, other than their ideolgies and reasons, Hitler literally put people in camps where they suffered and had to live thinking they could die the next day, at the very least itachi tried to make it quick.
@Pclub4ever3 жыл бұрын
He put Sasuke in a genjutsu and made him suffer for no reason. After infiltrating the leaf and showing him that he can get him at anytime. Where are they different?
@TheMiles653 жыл бұрын
@@Pclub4ever read
@Pclub4ever3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMiles65 Where did he make it quick for Sasuke? He made it a long drawn out traumatic experience for him. The one he was supposedly saving.
@TheMiles653 жыл бұрын
@@Pclub4ever like I said their ideologies and reasons for doing what they did were fundamentally different. Yes, he put sasuke in a genjutsu, which isn’t justifiable and I don’t agree with. But even he felt regret over the things he did to sasuke and eventually saw that he could’ve changed the uchiha, which again, is not applicable to hitler
@bijuunaruto94203 жыл бұрын
Mans got denied 💀
@alexcleveland7439 ай бұрын
who gaf lmaooooo. Itachi is still one of the coolest anime characters in anime bruh. Bros cold asl😭🔥🔥🔥
@thehighground79262 жыл бұрын
Tbf, out of all the Uchiha, Itachi has probably done the least in bad things. Yes he killed the clan, but it was Obito who summoned the Nine Tails and made it that way for the Uchiha. It was also Madara who pushed Obito to that point, and put those ideas in his head. Madara and Obito are just as responsible in the Uchiha massacre as Itachi. It’s just that Itachi was the one in the front while they were in the back.
@aigeee Жыл бұрын
Rob and Pat won that
@richurro203 жыл бұрын
Itachi was literally forced into two options: kill his own clan except his brother and save the Uchiha clan from being eradicated or go get wiped out with them. You can't compare him to Hitler. Hitler was antisemetic and did some of the most heinous and gruesome acts in humanity just cause he didn't like a particular set of people. On the contrary Itachis whole philosophy was to become the strongest ninja so that he can bring peace to all. He was never able to become that though cause of Danzo and the leaf village are trash and he got a disease which brought an impending death no matter what.
@thedarthmal2 жыл бұрын
Nah he wasn't...there's ALWAYS a choice. His clan did not have to die especially from his hands.
@Axel-ye8tt Жыл бұрын
@@thedarthmal so then they fight the leaf and if they win other nations will attack a weak and broken leaf village y’all are so stupid
@codenamecadet Жыл бұрын
@@thedarthmalthis is always funny to see which is why i absolutely love debating on itachi. you wouldn’t care about being a great shinobi which is making tough decisions like this if it comes to it and he made that decision for konoha at 13 YEARS OLD lol. it is stated multiple times in the show that in order to be a great shinobi you must put the village first before ALL. that is the flawed system that the ninja world as a whole goes by and if you slight itachi then that means you have to slight the entire world that they live in because that’s what they believe in. he did have a choice, but he chose to kill them instead of them being killed and destroying his home in the process he swore to protect.
@cameren79313 жыл бұрын
😂😂 this shit is hilarious
@rumi1970dg2 жыл бұрын
Rob spittin
@gellad-ne37277 ай бұрын
I know im lasy but this whole argument is stupid, Rob aint spitting no facts Our man Itachi is nothing like Hitler smh. How do you compare a sociopathic, sadistic dictator that wanted to compete genocide regardless of war to a child soldier numb to life told to either compete genoicide or let a war start. Like for real i wouldve shut Rob down instantly eitht hr argument that if the Uchiha went with their coup, hundreds would had died and then other ninja nations wouldve invaded and started another war. That the whole point of Itachi and his story. Its a trolley train experiment to simplify it down... Rob makes me so mad sometimes istg😂
@luckner143 жыл бұрын
If the Anbu snuck up on the Uchiha, I don’t think they’d be ready for that.
@inumakigod61703 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Danzo pretty much saying "I will order Anbu to attack the Uchiha at night before they could fight back." Hiruzen even said "I will think the strategy to fight Uchiha" If Itachi didnt kill Uchiha, the leaf would do it. The same result, but more people die including Sasuke. Im pretty sure Itachi will never want to see his brother die.
@getsugaallen66123 жыл бұрын
@@inumakigod6170 that's not true I'm sure less ppl would've died lol, I'm sure the anbu wouldn't have killed babies and old ppl like itachi
@inumakigod61703 жыл бұрын
@@getsugaallen6612 What are you talking about bro? Watch eps 339 where Itachi told Sasuke the truth. Danzo literally said he will order Anbu to attack Uchiha at night so Uchiha would not put a fight. He also said they must kill everyone including innocent little children because if they didnt kill little children, they would take revenge in the future just like Sasuke after learning the truth about Itachi. That's why Hiruzen kept Itachi's truth from Sasuke because Sasuke would definitely take revenge on the leaf village. Hiruzen also said he will think about the strategy to fight Uchiha. You really think if Uchiha and Leaf Village fought, it would not kill little children in that place? If both fight, it would cause more people die. Not to mention if the other nation came in to the village. Itachi killing the clan by himself and saving Sasuke was the best option at that time since Itachi killed his clan just a night before Uchiha launched their attack.
@luckner143 жыл бұрын
@@getsugaallen6612 idk man, danzo was ruthless asf. I’m sure he would’ve taken out everyone (children included) if he thought it was for the sake of the village. He was a real sociopath
@nmckoyy2 жыл бұрын
I respect Itachi so much for taking that on basically all by himself besides Obito. I don't think Rob and Pat understand that the Anbu would've wiped the Uchiha out anyway, including Sasuke. Yeah Itachi had an option not to do it but if he didn't, Sasuke would've been killed, I don't think they truly understand that. I do agree with Rob that the Uchiha shouldn't have been the only side with casualties but it is what it is. I think it was for the greater good.
@Unkwn_everwhere2 жыл бұрын
@Gregory Muanamputu literally literally plus she forgetting that the uchiha have strong people on they side they wouldn’t have got slaughter by the anbu or hidden leaf like that
@getsugaallen6612 Жыл бұрын
the anbus always get hyped but we never saw any good feats lol , genins in part one were doing better than them.
@leodalyon88543 жыл бұрын
I wanted to jump in so bad!!!
@mrcarterr59753 жыл бұрын
Long vid ? Say less
@GrandDadtheTrexHeli2 жыл бұрын
Itachi didnt do it alone tho Obito slaughtered most of them
@jalenclinton8568 Жыл бұрын
Hilter had soldiers
@codenamecadet Жыл бұрын
@@jalenclinton8568hitler was also a grown ass man and murdered plenty for his own satisfaction and beliefs instead of the beliefs of his world. he also was not ordered to do so like itachi at the age of 13 💀
@jalenclinton8568 Жыл бұрын
@@codenamecadet he still had a choice & made his so
@codenamecadet Жыл бұрын
@@jalenclinton8568 you don’t care to be a shinobi and that’s okay lol. i think some people when talking about itachi tries to put real world values in these characters when that’s not what none of them in the anime was raised on. bro was an anbu captain at fucking 13 years old, had a kunai in his hand before bro knew his ABC’s and you talking about some hitler lmao. konoha teaches you to put the village first before all. his family is not only uchiha’s it’s the entire village. how you feel about what he did is whatever, i just don’t like hearing the argument of he had a choice because he certainly did, just know that at 13 you weren’t given a decision to kill your family for the greater good of the village you protect. you wouldn’t understand that weight so in my opinion it’s just crazy to judge 🤣
@jalenclinton8568 Жыл бұрын
@@codenamecadet you right idgaf plus I’m not reading that essay
@String6153 жыл бұрын
Lmao imo rob was actually right for once
@dabitouyatodoroki54532 жыл бұрын
danzó is Hitler
@aigeee Жыл бұрын
lol
@natakavatakashi65833 жыл бұрын
What Itachi does is right because to him Konoha and Uchiha clan is not 2 different party, both are his family. if your family is about to kill each other then you have to save as much as you can.
@KingGam1233 жыл бұрын
Na what he did was dumb, he chose a village over his own family 🤷🏿♂️
@inumakigod61703 жыл бұрын
@@KingGam123 Hashirama said "I will protect my village even if I have to kill my friends, family, or even my kids". Basically, Itachi did what Hashirama believed. But you all haters will deny it. That's why Hashirama said Itachi was a greater shinobi than he was.
@KingGam1233 жыл бұрын
@@inumakigod6170 lol but hashirama’s clan wasn’t discriminated like the uchiha clan though so it’s easy for him to say that. Why itachi chose a village who hated his clan to begin with is beyond me
@natakavatakashi65833 жыл бұрын
@@inumakigod6170 id think we need to explain the same thing to him.
@inumakigod61703 жыл бұрын
@@KingGam123 Hiruzen said "since 4 years old, Itachi learned about the predecessor and shinobi history while everyone barely talked about it. That's why clan stuff never tied him"
@inumakigod61703 жыл бұрын
Rob doesnt know shit lmao. If Itachi didnt kill Uchiha, the leaf Village would do it. Of course, Sasuke would die too and Im pretty sure Itachi never wanted to see his brother die in front of his eyes. Hiruzen, the kindest person in shinobi world, was ready to fight Uchiha. That's why Hiruzen also said "Taking on Uchiha wont be easy. But I will think about the strategy to fight Uchiha." Danzo in the other hand, was ready to order Anbu to attack Uchiha in the night so Uchiha would not put a fight. Itachi killing Uchiha was the best option because he could save Sasuke and prevented a great ninja war. Just imagine if Uchiha fought the leaf village and the other country came in to the village. It would cause more people die. Not to mention Naruto is the Jinchuuriki. Itachi literally saved the main character lmao. People who say Itachi is hitler don't know shit. Hitler killed Jews because he hated them. Itachi never hated his family.
@TheShemShow563 жыл бұрын
This is the dumbest comment I read all day. Rob stated straight facts on this argument so how can u say he doesnt know shit. Now u tell me would u kill your whole neightborhood for that cause?
@TheShemShow563 жыл бұрын
doesnt matter if u hated your family or not u still killed them
@Axel-ye8tt Жыл бұрын
@@TheShemShow56 and that doesn’t disprove his point
@TheShemShow56 Жыл бұрын
@@Axel-ye8tt bro niggas used Itachi because that’s there best option to catch them by surprise. The Anbu literally would’ve failed against the uchiha as u can see some uchiha were awake. Casualties would’ve happened but I’m telling u that mission wouldn’t have been completed without itachi
@shanksszz10 ай бұрын
if u real, u will ride for your people and help the uchiha fight the leaf
@josephcontreras45743 жыл бұрын
Bruh itachi didn’t have a choice because it was life or death for his brother. That’s the only reason he went through with it because he need sasuke to be safe. Danzo is the man with the stash
@momogotgame50483 жыл бұрын
Broo nothing justify the killing of innocent Itachi bodied children but left his own brother that's mad selfish
@trenageddon64652 жыл бұрын
@@momogotgame5048 I agree If you going to leave your brother alive then You might as well leave all the other Uchiha kids alive too
@getsugaallen6612 Жыл бұрын
literally lol let Sasuke alive but not the other kids then push Sasuke into becoming a threat to the leaf lol