Italian Vetterli 1870/87/15 Safe to shoot or Wall Hanger

[@Stewart0494]

You have my vote for more videos on these rifles.

[@oldschoolamericangentlemen7934]

Im 23 years old and i really enjoy tour videos! I have a 1870 rolling block in 43 spanish. I find so much knowledge in your videps and i found your video on the rolling block a wealth of info. Keep doin what your doin sir!

[@brettanderson6743]

I actually bought one from RTI. I run cast .269 bullets with Trail Boss powder. Obviously you need to follow reloading recommendations but i get 1450 fps with a 90% load that has virtually no recoil. It does have a perfect barrel though.

[@AjackLee4]

Only 1450FPS? Is that downloaded vs a standard mil loading?

[@AjackLee4]

Also I've read online that these were supposedly actually a .264 bore and that's part of the cause with modern issues.

[@BattlefieldCurator]

at the C&Rsenal YT page, they have a video where they attempted to fire three of these. They ended up damaging them during the test firing process.

[@danm7298]

Howd they damage them?

[@BattlefieldCurator]

@@danm7298 they fired 6.5 Carcano with decreased powder loads and if I remember correctly, 3 of them still ended up breaking due to the rifles not being able to withstand the pressure.

[@danm7298]

@@BattlefieldCurator Wow thats crazy. Not that i didnt beleive you i was just wondering what went wrong. was it a catastrophic failure? like the receiver blew up or the bolt or barrel? j/w lol

[@BattlefieldCurator]

@@danm7298 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6KydpuVedx9iJI at 21 minute mark, he discusses two that had issues. One had developed a crack in the bolt and the other exploded around the chamber area

[@danm7298]

@@BattlefieldCurator Cool thx i will have to watch that

[@sgtmajtrapp3391]

Outstanding piece of history, very interesting, as usual, comprehensive detail as always. Excellent presentation

[@duaneperkins8329]

I just purchased one (haven't received it yet) and I would love to see you talk more about shooting this.

[@clausewitz6968]

I have bought one 1870/87/15 from RTI. Hope to get fun lol.

[@windogendoors7566]

Still it is amazing the long service life these guns had. Many were still used in WW2 by the MVSN.

[@gradyhernandez4699]

I like carcano

[@surplusdivision2461]

Centerfire systems wanted me to fill out a 4473 to buy one of these. I asked if they would take a C&r, they said no, so I told them to go to hell. They are so stupid.

[@TheKoba49]

a lot of dealers are just ignorant, and do not want to take any chances, so the easy thing to do is if the gun takes a cartridge make the people fill out the paperwork. I have found over the years a lot of people selling guns know nothing about what they are selling, and not very much about the laws about selling guns, they just want your money.

[@danv6789]

I have one of these that I've run hundreds of commercial rounds through. I use the PPU ammo since the Hornady has a slightly larger diameter. Great firing gun with no issues. You have to look hard to see the conversion as it was very well done. The action on mine is smooth as butter and cycles very smoothly. I've read all over the internet that these guns are unsafe and shouldn't be fired. I think a lot of this is exactly what the author of the video states and is just old rumors and word of mouth. Probably by people who have never owned one or those who are sour graping those of us that do. If you are unsure then have it checked. I have found these to be solid, well built, old guns.

[@jefferyboring4410]

I got one off a wall the bolt was welded shut. I studied the internet and knew why so lucky it was welded where I could cut it open to work the bolt. Barrel is good. GB has specific vetterli ammo for sale 1750 fps 125 grain sp…. I’d shoot em and reload em plumb full of BP for Smokey fun. Really cool gun.

[@dasparkgun]

Hello. Great channel with all the Vetterli vidoes! I picked a rough one up without know anything about them. I have been nursing it back to health. Could you please show me how that rear flip up site works? Not sure if mine is stuck. I don't want to horse it. Thanks!

[@jefferyboring4410]

The left side has what looks like a big pin sticking out press it in and it’ll release the sight to adjust!

[@alecbowman4127]

What is your custom load?

[@ddeel24]

I just bought one in really good condition for $100. I already have a ton of 6.5 carcano and enbloc's for my M1891, but all I keep hearing is, don't fire it with the full power PPU.

[@WastelandArmorer]

I’ve shot PPU in mine. I had stiff extraction so I quit shooting it. Norma has worked fine. Have the gun checked by a gunsmith and if it is solid you could try PPU, just be super observant for pressure signs. These guns can take the pressure, but just barely, so there isn’t much margin of safety to account for wear.

[@levinlevinallday]

ive been wanting a swiss vetterli converted to centerfire. i do come access the Italians for pretty cheap often though. I wrote them off but maybe ill reconsider getting one. thanks for the info.

[@manningburgess8501]

What book is that

[@butisit7816]

I have one of those. It looks really good with most of the finish still on it, though the load data is askew. I can never find an exact answer it seems.

[@jefferyboring4410]

I’ve seen factory vetterli loads on GB 125 grain at 1750 fps personally I’d just compress a blackpowder load as that was the 1887 original design. It’s supposed to be a rimless 25-35 American design or European 6.5-52R but the carcano is rimless so apparently 35 grains of blackpowder is the best load so try that and work up smokeless to that fps I’d assume it to be 1750 but that’s a lot of assumptions

[@yuibot5998]

Man, people dumping half the powder out of commercial ammo are crazy. Cutting a slow burning powder by half could lead to some bad shit. S.E.E. for one. BOOM.

[@jefferyboring4410]

Ammunition companies have tried to replicate a low powder (detonation) unsuccessfully. I think it’s a old myth. I’ve shot thousands of gallery or half loads. Ppl accidentally used pistol powder and made up stories is my guess. Used the wrong jug!

[@WastelandArmorer]

Ive fired some norma in mine. But i inspect mine after every shot. Zero pressure signs, but treat her gently.

[@gradyhernandez4699]

Steinel has ammo for carcano

[@АлександрКулагин-э1ф]

Для того времени заднее расположение рукоятки затвора и изгиб её вниз- это прогресс.

[@WolvCustoms]

Great info 👍

[@thievingdisc779]

That sucks how they welded the chamber shut. I might get one from Royal Tiger.

[@itzncr5239]

What book is that?

[@cipherthedemonlord8057]

Great info on these clearing up stuff I believed. What book did you get that info from? Mine someone drilled holes on the stock for wall mounts paid under 200 including shipping years ago. Still has most of the bluing not sure if original and I shot 4 rounds of PPU. Only issue is the bolt face has a cut that puts a ring on the back of the cartridge which I haven't fixed yet. The ones Royal Tiger is selling are a rip off.

[@timothymanganello1731]

Interested in your load for 10.4x47mm?

[@gradyhernandez4699]

Do you think it's good for deer hunting in texas

[@jefferyboring4410]

Ya buy some 6.5 vetterli from GB soft point factor made for this rifle.

[@gradyhernandez4699]

@@jefferyboring4410 carcano in 6 5 x 52 mm

[@jefferyboring4410]

@@gradyhernandez4699 yes but theirs a lighter 1750 fps soft point load sold on gun broker it’s a special load for the thought to be weaker action of the veterli so it says on the box it’s a “vetterli load”

[@gradyhernandez4699]

@@jefferyboring4410 arisakas have strong actions

[@gradyhernandez4699]

@@jefferyboring4410 my first " high power" rifle was a carcano carbine

[@Nyxcha]

question, anyone know where i can get blank rounds and a stripper clip for one of these?

[@gradyhernandez4699]

Liberty tree collectors

[@copee3]

Just fired mine for the first time today. Strapped it to a tree and pulled the trigger with some paracord. It worked fine, and I fired a few shots from the shoulder afterward. No signs of overpressure. Gonna take it to the range this weekend and see how it groups. I used load data from here, if anyone is curious; personal.stevens.edu/~gliberat/carcano/ammo/reload_data.html

[@cookeddirt5310]

Thank you, you are the only person I have seen provide any kind of loading data.

[@AjackLee4]

I'm curious how these would do with a black powder full house 6.5 load. Might be safer and still retain some power.