Spellcasting Modifier EXPLAINED in Baldur's Gate 3

[@italianspartacus]

Thanks so much for watching my bros! I do know that I messed up with the Magic Missile call out and I AM FRUSTRATED! hahahaha

[@donaldhiggins6167]

Lol, it was funny. Still, I found the DC information to be very useful. I watch all of your stuff.

[@TurianusTube]

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[@3lcapitan0]

your videos are great man. mistakes happen and its great to have someone who goes in depth with the rules and mechanics. I love the fact that bg3 has nearly identical rules to dnd. so much fun to see how different combs work out. its like a simulator for the pen & paper and your videos play right into that. thanks!

[@dasphoenixable]

“Take that you piece of shit” I don’t think I’ve heard that amount of joy from you in a while

[@italianspartacus]

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[@Roonayy]

Quick correction: 1:07 Magic missile has no rolls, it's a guaranteed hit, although the damage can be reduced to 0 with the shield spell used as a reaction.

[@shadowfurydono]

how is the damage say "6-15" then? that totally means each missile can hit for 2-5 right? it has no attack rolls but damage rolls?

[@Misterion25]

@@shadowfurydono Is it 2-5 damage per missile?

[@_The_God_King_]

@@shadowfurydonoYes it just hits, and its 1d4+1 damage per missile without any added damage modifiers

[@remortisgaming]

False it does make a roll. It’s just a 100% roll. In the game engine anyways. The vs cha thing is wrong obviously

[@Roonayy]

@@shadowfurydono The video is about attack rolls and saving throw rolls. I was talking in terms of attack rolls and saving throw rolls.

[@kevinbarnard355]

One of the problems with the spellcasting interface is if you hover over the CHA save or DEX save to see what's contributing to that, it shows you the modifiers that caster would have if they were resisting their own spell. For example, the Dex Save tool tip on ice knife, or sacred flame will show you what that Wizard or Cleric will have to resist their own spell, rather than what a enemy target would be resisting. This means if you look at different spells which target different ability scores from the same class, you'll see different DCs for each of them The spell book numbers are correct, just don't get confused when you hover over the spell save tool tips in the spells.

[@DmytroMasliei]

magic missle always hits, that is why there is no info about failed check

[@italianspartacus]

Spasibo bratan!! I forgot that part because I am not a smart man

[@red-merlin]

There is an outlier scenario where the missile won't hit THE INTENDED target. If there is an invisible character standing in front of said target. UNLESS this Has since Been patched out. Doesn't take away from your point however lol, just a little food for thought

[@bouncerwolf2942]

Redmerlin4923 that is interesting magic missile uses pathing to twist and turn on the way to the enemy I never thought about someone being invisible messing with that pathing I'm going to try that this weekend to see if they fixed it in patch 5. Thank you for the info.

[@CreativeExcusesGaming]

⁠@@italianspartacusfunny enough your very next example was cloud of daggers which says it has a save, but doesnt actually have a save. It only has a damage roll.

[@victorswartz9323]

I’m new to DnD and just picked the game up yesterday. I’m not far in but I’m trying to multi class warlock/wizard. Now I know that warlock spells refresh with a short rest but they don’t get many. So I figured if I add wizard I would get more spells at my disposal with the short rest reset. Will that work? I know this doesn’t have anything to do with your comment but I can’t seem to find an answer to this or any build guides anywhere.

[@Im_Still_LightSpeedLayne]

Commenting to help your numbers. You do something NOBODY else does and I appreciate that. Sometimes I don’t feel like watching a 40 to 85 minute video to get into you give in the first minutes. Sooooooooooooo appreciated. At the same time I always come back if I leave early and even if I’m not listening I’ll let the video play to help with your time viewed. Thanks brother!!!

[@sokar_rostau]

I posted a question about this on reddit about 10 hours before this was uploaded, so I was a) hoping to find the answer and b) feeling a little targeted... The multiclass confusion comes in with items and ATTACK ROLLS. According to the BG3 wiki, when you cast a spell from a scroll, it will use your latest taken NEW class for the spell DC, so Sorc>Wiz>Sorc will use Int, and Sorc>Wiz>Dru>Wiz>Sorc will use Wis. Casting from scrolls isn't really a huge issue for 95% of builds but the way it's apparently implemented is confusing, to say the least. The Attack Roll is what I asked about last night, because I started a Gale Honour run and things suddenly went to crap at level 3 when I multiclassed into Sorc. Aside from the obvious Metamagic, I took Sorc for utility spells that always needed to be prepared, like Shield, so there's nothing offensive in the Sorc spell book except for what Shovel has doodled in the margins. My understanding was that the Attack Roll was based on the Class that knows the spell. It's a pretty standard explanation that Shadowheart's infamous Igmiss comes from her being a Half-Elf which uses Int, and it makes a lot of sense. If you pick Searing Ray on your Sorc, the spell will always use Cha; if you pick it on your Wiz, Searing Ray will always use Int. It makes sense, and this is what's shown in the pop-up... until you get to the second pop-up. Last night, I learned Searing Ray from a scroll. When hovering over the spell, it lists Int for the DC and Int as the spellcasting ability. When hovering over the Attack Roll, however, it lists Cha for the Attack Roll. ALL OF MY WIZARD SPELLS NOW USE CHA FOR THEIR ATTACK ROLL, and I can't hit the broadside of a barn hosting an ogre orgy. Instead of the base +5 bonus I get from Int, I'm only getting the +2 bonus from Cha. Gale suddenly feels like Shadowheart. I'm still a bit away from lvl 4 to see how/if it changes again but right now I'm screwed. I should add that the only reason I noticed this was because I was trying to figure out why I was suddenly not hitting anything. I've multiclassed like this plenty of times, throwing a level of Wiz onto a Bard, for example, and this is the first time I've noticed a sudden dip in performance from spells that were previously hitting just fine, so it could be a bug introduced in Patch 5 but people have been confused about this stuff for a while. You can see this in the video at 8:31. Bone Chill in a Sorc spell book using Int for the Attack Roll, on a character that you said last took a level in Wizard (or was that later?). [Also, your videos are still starting mid-word]

[@karllong]

Thanks for doing this, spell save DC is probably the most misunderstood aspect of this game. So many ppl blaming poor shadowheart when she Igmisses when it's using her intelligence modifier or using sacred flame on high dex enemies.

[@keyanmoore916]

What's gale excuse igmiss? Fucker brags about my lack of knowledge in magic and has the nerve to miss his spells

[@platypus547]

@italianspartacus, I usually like your videos because you have a really nice presentation and are great to listen to. I really hope you remake this one though because it has so much incorrect information. - Casting stat for scrolls and items 100% does change when you multiclass to your newest class - Advantage/disadvantage is not +2/-2, it is roll two dice and use the highest/lowest result - Casting does not use your highest stat, it uses the stat you got the spell from. There is also a bug where if you take a spell as a spontaneous caster like sorcerer, it will not even show up in your prepared caster slot. For example I just tested with 8CHA, 12WIS, 16INT. I leveled as Wizard, Sorcerer, Druid. I took Ice knife and Chromatic Orb as sorcerer. Ice knife no longer appears in the wizard list or druid list and chromatic orb does not appear in the wizard list. Both spells cast using CHA despite that being my lowest stat. - If you take a cantrip from two different casting classes it also does not use your highest stat, you get an option when casting to choose.

[@kevinbarnard355]

He never said advantage gives you +2. He said having high ground or the enemy having high ground gives a +2 or -2 to your attack roll. I wouldn't say it's a bug that you can't choose those spells if you already have them known from a different class. The game warns you in the level up screen that you already know that spell. However, it does mistakenly tell you that you'll have access to both when it involves spells from spontaneous casting classes like Sorcerer. It works fine if you multiclass from different prepared casters. If you use the spell swapping option at level up to remove a spell known from bard, etc, then your wizard/cleric will be able to prepare that spell now if it's on their list as well. However, you do get to chose which ability you attack with if the spell is prepared or a cantrip on 2 different lists.

[@Jushiro90]

I know this video is old but dude, just letting you know these videos have been great! Keep it up

[@italianspartacus]

Thank you os much for watching brother :)

[@GamerPhilosophy]

The fact there’s so many different outcomes to situations, makes this so replayable and immersive. I absolutely love this one. 💞✌😊👍

[@kevinbarnard355]

There is an issue when talking about spell casting modifiers and multiclassing spell casters. A spontaneous caster's known spells overrides and removes the option of other casters from having access to that spell. If a sorcerer knows Ice Bolt, they can't prepare it as a Druid or Wizard, and it will always use CHA, even if that's the lowest stat. If you are dealing with 2 prepared casters like Druid and Wizard, you can prepare it in both classes, and the game will let you select which stat you will use to cast it from (WIS or INT in this case). This likely extends to any "Always prepared" spells from subclass features. Racial spells and cantrips are separate and will always use the ability modifier that the feature says. That means a meph tiefling Druid can cast flame blade with their charisma once per long rest, and once per level 2 spell slot with their Wisdom. There are some times where multiclassing confuses the game. I just tested a Druid MC into Wizard and it forced him to use INT to attack with flame blade, even though it's not available to the Wizard class. As others have suggested, it's likely related to which class you started more recently.

[@asanoiaz]

Thanks for explaining this. I recently started multiclassing spellcasters and was so confused about which class was doing the damage.

[@collin5466]

Hey It_Spartacus. Really appreciate you doing these kinds of videos. Thought you should know though. At 13:16, when you are talking about the Magic Missle attack it hits because it always hits there is no save against it. Shield, etc.. type spells and the like are the only way for it to be stopped. Long time pencil and paper player. 🙂

[@kevinleonard6855]

Thank you for this. I am still trying to understand all of the mechanics in BG3. Since I love casters this is very helpful.

[@RossLawliet]

Me still wondering why ItalianSpartacus lost their hair in their 20's, maybe a future video

[@LunaRose1312]

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[@nightsgaming4285]

Thank you the spell saves was tripping me up and the whole idea of multi classing casters. Thanks to your video I can now fully understand how to make a compatible multi class.

[@kentoshin]

Couple of clarifications here, since the system is super confusing I've spent a lot of time researching the mechanics in depth: 1) There are two types of spells, ones that make Spell Attack Rolls and ones that force the enemy to make a saving throw against your Spell Save DC. They are technically not the same thing (AC is not considered a saving throw), but functionally they are pretty similar as they scale off the same ability modifier. 2) Magic Missile and Cloud of Daggers are bad examples for explaining these mechanics, as they are actually exceptions that have a 100% chance to hit, and therefore don't trigger an attack roll or a saving throw. 3) When you multiclass, your spellcasting modifier for scrolls/items is actually the LAST unique spellcaster class you multiclassed into, not the first one - I've personally tested this as of patch 4. This means that its possible for your hit chance with scrolls to get worse when you level up if you dip into a spellcasting class with a lower modifier. Very annoying, hope Larian patches this to always pick the highest one instead 4) Beware of tooltips in your spellbook/inventory, the calculations for spell save DC and ability modifiers for those can sometimes not match what happens in combat, especially when multiclassing. Even the hit% shown when hovering a spell can sometimes be wrong. The only source of truth is the combat log after you have cast a spell :(

[@FernandoPolla1]

Yeah, the wrong modifier being displayed along with the wrong % is very ennoying. But let's say I start as a Cleric and have command in my prepared spells, and then go 4 bard. The Command spell is gonna use the cleric modifier (WIS) since is one of my cleric spells, right?

[@kentoshin]

@@FernandoPolla1 yes, the spells that are prepared as a cleric will always use WIS even if you multiclass out

[@mletto157]

Did this change? I just respecced as Lvl 1 Storm Sorc, Lvl 2 Tempest Cleric, Lvl 3 Wizard, Lvl 4 Cleric, Lvls 5-12 Sorc. Most of my damage spells are coming from Wizard, so I have 20 INT. However, Markoheshkir using Bolts of Doom casts Chain Lightning and Lightning Bolt using one of the lower attack roll modifiers - I'm assuming Charisma. But according to how I understood, it should be using INT because Wizard was the last unique spellcaster.

[@kentoshin]

@@mletto157 no idea, I might test it again with the latest patch

[@mletto157]

@@kentoshin let me know what you come up with. I'd like to fully optimize this build and that will be a big part of it.

[@exxy9931]

Thank you so much for this my dude. Idk how but I made it to the middle of Act 2 on Tactician without 100% understanding what spell save DC was. I had assumed it was something to do with accuracy but I wasn’t sure. lol

[@mr.needmoremhz4148]

Yeah, I hope a later update improves explanations in general and makes descriptions less mystical for many things, or have an option to enable it. When it comes to damage, not only magical but weapons as well, a real consistent output table and detailed combat log with all conditional terms (the basic implementation is already in the game) and why a passive isn't or is applied would be nice. I think it has too many performance hits to track this continually as it's implemented right now or something because it can't be difficult to deliver a detailed output. The differences in game difficulty level and so make this harder as well.

[@aries148]

Another informative video…thank you. This really makes me want to make a Druid class even more because that seems more of a spell caster around my playstyle. I’ve watched most if not all the guides you dropped on BG3 as I await the Xbox release. Your hard work is appreciated!

[@Epictrailers921]

Great video. Concise and easily comprehensible. Also very thought out in its execution. Thank you, you‘ve earned yourself a subscriber

[@ethanwintersseveredhand]

Bad guide because you didn't tell us how you lost your hair. Jokes aside, thanks for the vid I've been trying to figure out how these stats work.

[@italianspartacus]

Hahaha I used to weigh 300lbs. Genetics plus massive weight loss said bye bye hair :)

[@skipbellon2755]

Maybe someday this will all make sense. It sure is fun though.

[@upside9485]

7:49 "I don't know what the FUCK all this means, Guy!" hahahahhahah

[@VDViktor]

Playing pure lore bard, getting illusion and enchantment spells through bard, and they still use wisdom modifier for some reason, instead of charisma. Thats the onlybpart i dont get.

[@bisurker]

If the first level you picked is bard, I want to say it's still using your charisma for spellsave dc, but the target has to make a wisdom saving throw, not a charisma saving throw. I ran into this problem too, multiclassing my lore bard with a cleric. I used withers to respec, but this time, I chose *bard* for level one instead of *cleric* for level one, and it totally fixed the problem. My spells hit alot more consistently after that.

[@linshaw774]

Thank you. I'm playing this game and I have no real clue what I'm doing (now lvl 7 BTW). My first four hours of playing were a continuous dialogue with the characters that only included the words, why can't you do that? Just adjusting myself to knowing I get one hit and then a move (sometimes/sometimes not) was a real shocker. I almost respec'd everyone to have one level in fighter. Anyway, thanks for the continuing content; we PS5 players are still catching up and I look at new builds daily. Cheers.

[@kimoomik7600]

This is False.. in DnD 5e. A wizard spellcasting Stat is always INT, A Druid/Cleric is always WIS, and a Paladin/Sorcerer/Warlock is Always CHR. Hence why the "[Insert Class] Initiate" feat you can choose states specifically "*Stat* is you spellcasting Stat for these selected spells"

[@italianspartacus]

I'm saying in the GAME it's assumed to be INT unless denoted by the tool tip despite starting as a Sorc

[@Frazec_Atsjenkov]

I can't seem to cast spells because there is something wrong with my level 1 spell slots, whatever that is... I had hoped that this video would teach me what spell slots are and how to fix them.

[@oliorogue]

I wish this was the first BG3 video I watched, thanks G!

[@Drock7749]

Thanks for the great information! I've been wondering, to myself, exactly how the casting system works for a bit now! Great video!

[@Hagen024]

My testing has shown that the most recent new spellcasting class is used to determine the Save DC's when using scrolls.

[@yanewstepdad1355]

I love learning little things like this about the game. Cause i just be doin shit and not understanding why spells dont hit often or attacks do low damage 😅

[@murderbunnies]

D&D: The game where you meet with friends to do algebra.

[@CRO-Palacinke-D.C]

honestly, it may be me being tired from work, but i didn't understand a thing until halfway into the vid and even now i'm not too sure how it works. a little visualization and editing may have gone a long way for me.

[@tinkerbell1337]

Great Video!!! I watch almost every bg3 stuff you make and it helped a lot. Thanks for your content.

[@Rodd200]

Important video even after 2 runs in the game 😂 Gonna try harder modes, tactician and honor on ps5 I did 2 runs on pc tho This game is superb

[@starrunner2838]

Thanks for the TLDR I will finish this vid later

[@eurybaric]

Dude I love this series

[@jeremiegartner464]

We need a video on all the things affecting wild shapes like tavern brawler and unarmed atk

[@darinsingleton3553]

I believe this was mentioned briefly at the top, but what are the DC dynamics for the various classes using scrolls? Are there advantages or disadvantages for various classes using scrolls? Ex.: Barbarians should NEVER use scrolls because .. or Druids should only use these types of scrolls because ...?

[@platypus547]

Scrolls use the casting stat of your most recently taken new class. Martials are weird. Monks use WIS, Barbarian uses CHA, Fighter uses nothing and doesnt change it unless you take 3 fighter and pick Eldritch Knight then it is INT, Rogue is like Fighter where it is nothing unless you pick Eldritch Trickster and then it is INT. Rogue has an exception where if you start at level 1 rogue then it will be INT until you change it with another class. Basically a straight fighter should never use scrolls that have damage or saves, but everyone else can with varying success depending on your stats.

[@bradyschoolar1433]

Love the video! You may have explained this already but it flew over my head. Say I have a spell that uses INT. And I put it on a wisdom character, does that spell now use wisdom? Or will it still use INT? Love the vids!

[@PatrickJKeefe]

"I don't what the FUCK all this means, guy." 😂😂😂

[@SoggyLaundry]

I stopped into your live stream and you look good bald.

[@PABLOSGHOST]

great videos dude

[@IssaGladiator]

How I loss my hair in the early 20s is wild ! 🤣😂

[@red-merlin]

Super helpful video. And after seeing this video the info seems so simple like "why couldn't i understand that?" Lol. But I'm also really happy to know that class order when multiclassing isn't actually a thing. Just based off how you want to play and holds no bearing on spell effectiveness. Before now i was thinking id need to respec cuz i didn't start in the right class. NOW I'm just wondering if i should go full wizard or if i want to throw sorcerer into the mix, how much would i want to take? Or would it be better to go tempest cleric? Leaning toward red dragonic sorc for the buff to fire spells or maybe instead a ice dragon for those buffs since i like both those lines of elemental spells. Full wizard also looks good tho

[@nithianathan7962]

There is something off about the spellcasting mechanics and I'm not sure if it is a bug that just affects me. In the DC for each spell is not the same when hover over it compared to the DC shown at the top of the spellbook. The spell bonus is adding on from the its respective saving throw class. For instance, Both Gale and Astarion at lvl4 have the spell grease. But the DC for astarion's grease is higher at 13 vs gale at 10 because Astarion dexterity is higher at 14 vs gale at 10. This does not make any sense whatsoever

[@somerandomguy9041]

I’m more concerned and need a guide on regaining my hair😢

[@BoundForHell68]

Good video, it's appreciated, However i still do not know how ATTACK ROLLS work, which modifiers or proficiencies are attached to the roll if any??

[@doloresabernathy9809]

So Spells scribed from scrolls always use Intelligence if they are only on the wizard tab? That follows but I haven’t seen that explicitly stated anywhere.

[@jonhjones4141]

Very helpful

[@owmu7821]

Why are the tooltips for cloud of daggers and chromatic orb showing INT and CHA saves respectively? Is this just a visual bug that is actually supposed to show the casting stat or am I missing something? Neither of those spells require a saving throw afaik. I think this may have confused italianspartacus as well because he referred to chromatic orb as triggering a charisma save which is not correct. Doubly confusing because bone chill’s tooltip correctly shows it’s just a spell attack roll.

[@victorswartz9323]

I’m new to DnD and just picked the game up yesterday. I’m not far in but I’m trying to multi class warlock/wizard. Now I know that warlock spells refresh with a short rest but they don’t get many. So I figured if I add wizard I would get more spells at my disposal with the short rest reset. Will that work?

[@samurottman6832]

No, no matter what your wizard spell slots will always have to be recovered through long rest and/or arcane recovery But you warlock spell slots will still recover on short rest but you will only have the 2 max

[@victorswartz9323]

@@samurottman6832 I appreciate you responding. I now know that but because I decided to multi class all everyone in my group some how I never fail a roll. I have so many extra buffs on my rolls I have never failed one

[@victorswartz9323]

@@samurottman6832 with my Charisma and intelligence as high as it is with Shadow heart and my rouge multi classed with Bars I pass every roll

[@alexpoulin6006]

What spell casting modifier would apply to spells learned by scrolls? Wizard/int?

[@chrisrhodes6595]

So say I went Sorcerer X, Wizard 1 and then learn every spell on the wizard spell list through scrolls, would it always use my Intelligence Mod if the stat is higher? Cause then I could get all the cool Sorcerer abilities and I'd effectively only lose out on Arcane Recovery and a Wizard Subclass, right?

[@operationawesome8662]

lol subbed for @7:50 so where I am at right now

[@italianspartacus]

Hahahahaha happy to help bro!

[@operationawesome8662]

You did a great job of explaining it. Thanks man! I havent played DnD since THAC0 was a thing

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[@italianspartacus]

HAHAHAHA I don't control that brother sorry

[@Prometheusforliberty]

The thing that confuses me is I made Shadowheart a Tempist/Storm Sorcerer and got Firebolt via Sorcerer. It is unclear if the modifier is still Intellegence or if it's now Cha

[@common_undead]

when you click on firebolt, it should let you choose between if you want to use int or charisma for the attack roll ability score modifier

[@Local_commentor]

So a 20 int E wizard in act 1 cast fireball would it do more damage than a draconic lineage fire sorcerer or what about spell slots I know I rather be a githyanki wizard instead of a editch knight because of the higher level spell slots

[@platypus547]

The casting stat doesnt affect the damage unless the spell says to add your spell casting modifier to the damage. Think of your spell casting modifier as your accuracy. A 20 INT wizard will hit more often with a fireball than a 16 CHA Draconic Fire Sorcerer, but the Draconic Fire Sorcerer will do more damage when it does hit. A 20CHA Sorcerer and 20INT Wizard will have the same accuracy though.

[@bevanjonsson2284]

What about a Rogue/Warlock doing a sneak attack from stealth using a Binded Pact of the Blade? What roles do Dex and Charisma play in the attack???

[@SelineSnape]

Sneak attack scales with Rogue levels and you need a Finesse Weapon for it - it uses STR or DEX depending on which stat is higher. 1) If you're using a bound weapon, it uses CHA for the damage instead of DEX or STR. 2) if your bound weapon is NOT a Finesse Weapon, you get the CHA bonus, but CANNOT use Sneak Attack.

[@harchierplebbington9397]

The way the spellcasting ability modfifier is chosen is pretty awful for sorcerer multiclasses, been running a storm sorcerer with a tempest cleric dip and discovered I have to sacrifice consitution save proficiency and conversational skills on my party face sorc so items and continuous spells like call lightning don't break

[@mickeyrighthouse6912]

So that means that if an EK has spells that aren't shared with my sorcerer spells, they will still use int instead of charisma?

[@michealcalhoun8973]

I’m sorry, I’m just having a hard time understanding. So if I go 11 sorcerer with 20 CHA and 1 wizard with 12 INT. I did not take chain lighting with my sorcerer but learned it with a scroll from wizard. The chain lightning will strictly go off my int spell DC?

[@LoneFenrir]

Literally trying to find the answer to this question. Any luck?

[@OakandIV]

I had heard that item spell save modifiers were taken from your most recently taken caster class, not your first? So, if you wanted CHA to give you your modifiers with items, you should take a class that casts using CHA last? If this is wrong, great. Just asking for clarification.

[@italianspartacus]

Your first class

[@OakandIV]

@@italianspartacus so I just tested this with a scroll of burning hands. The caster’s first class was Cleric. His second Sorcerer. His third Wizard. The save was made vs INT. So, I might be missing something, but it looks like spells cast from item get saved against using your last caster class taken, not your first.

[@kentoshin]

Its definitely the last unique class, not the first class. I've tested this personally as of patch 4, its possible for your spell save DC for items to go down if you take a multiclass into a casting class with a lower modifier

[@common_undead]

​@@kentoshin ^^ This is precisely correct. Items and scrolls use the spell save dc and attack roll of the last unique class you multiclassed into. So if for example you're building a 10 storm sorc/2 tempest domain cleric build and you take sorcerer level 1 and then cleric at any point later, spells from markoheshkir will use wisdom for the attack roll and save dc.

[@andybodle7560]

Clarification: last caster class you *took a level in*, or last caster class you multiclassed into? Say you start as sorcerer, then go cleric, but add more sorcerer levels later. Will items use CHA or WIS now?

[@mletto157]

How does this work with spells granted from items? Like when you use Markoheshkir with Bolts of Doom you get Lightning Bolt & Chain Lightning. I'm currently playing as a multi-class Storm Sorc/Tempest Cleric/Wizard. Most of my levels are Sorc to get more sorc points, but most of my spells are cast as Wizard using INT modifier. Except for some reason it looks like the lightning spells from Bolts of Doom are using CHA as the modifier, even though it is quite a bit lower than my INT. I would like it to use my INT. Any ideas?

[@MundaneThingsBackwards]

1:40, I believe.

[@TurianusTube]

Thanks for shareing this party setup with us! Very interesting compilation. But... Something is slightly obscured here... I believe we do still miss an answer, why the hair was fallen off and finally missed in the early twenties... don't we?! 🙂 As a main bard, let me tell u a little story... Actually beating honour mode with my "Gun-Bard" main. That is a DEX-based Bow-Bard via College of Swords. Mainly attacks done by slashing flourish (bow). At Bard3 I already gained double attacks on 1 target! Bard5 to 6 got me an additional attack and short rest refreshes, what keept my mind always cool and calm. On Bard8 i felt done and did go over to fighter2 to get my heartbeat counted by "Action Surge". After that, i figured out that the spell sparkling stuff from wizard could be very funny, so that I learned a Haste-scroll. In the End I felt that i could do some more very useful "Command's" so that I picked Warlock1, because I am still the leader of the pack. For my "perfect suggestions" and and a very smooth click-friendly run, i did run as Dark Urge to have some conversation exitements paired with a few butcher-feelings. That early Dark Urge stealthy cloak, made by finesponed silk... very handy. After i rescued the Zentharim by killing the Wargs.. i am lost... or did i have sneaky watched the slaughtery and killed the survivors... can't remember really well. Bloody hell! Anyway, I really needed the strongest Bow (by calculation) in the game: the ultimate "Titanstring Bow" from Brem in the Hideout down below the Waukeen's Rest, after that quest with the - hopefully still closed - chest. Then i could drink a few early STR potions from Auntie Ethel inside the Druid Grove and pew pew the enemies without sharpshooter, while alerted since lvl4. always at first sight. That felt really exalted, like I have to be, right?! After I sneaked the way trough the Goblin Camp, passed the Selune Outpost, grabbed some Sussur Flowers behind the Myconid Village, and made the way on top into the Arcane Tower deep down below in the Underdark, i finally broke off the Club of Hillgiant Strength from the pouffe, because i already was potioned. While my ability and skill setup is max DEX and STR (by Club) now, i handled high Constitution and Wisdom to have high saving throws at all and already at lvl6 my Main - Conversation - Stealth - Lockpicker - DPS - Controlspell - Hasted - Longstriderd - Heavybearer - Bard feels great just with a simple potion of Bloodlust for heavy fights. As a Githyanki by nature, with a B-Penis (who could play the Ukulele, but sadly had to choose the violin), I am already a Stranger out here in Baldur's Gate, so nobody would wonder, that I used my hellish cheeky skills, to close the gab in Intelligence by using my astral Knowledge, to be convenient in nature as needed, thou. Honestly moded, i was extraordinary free and had no restrictions, what the other band members whould be... Can you believe?!

[@VDViktor]

Cringe

[@shadowfurydono]

So if I want to make OP sorceror who knows all spells… I should make 11 sorcerer 1 wizard and have high intelligence and low charisma? I can take the tech spells as sorcerer and damage spells as wizard (from scrolls)? Meta magic with high rolls on int?

[@shadowfurydono]

Or low int high charisma with tech spells from wizard and damage spells from sorc? Which is better?

[@ItzGenesis]

It depends from where you got the spells you are gonna do damage/make the enemies make saving throws with. For example: if i learn ray of frost with a sorcerer level up, the damage and likelyhood it would hit the enemy are both based on charisma, because i got that skill from sorcerer and sorcerer is charisma based. Or if you lets say, learned ray of frost with the wizard level up or thru scrolls (which wizards can do), that damage and hit chance will scale with int. So on a 11sorc 1wizard build, you usually just want wizard for some utility spells, spells that dont require an attack to hit or the enemy to do a saving throw, since the majority of your damage and control spells are gonna come from sorcerer, its better you focus on charisma.

[@jihedhamdani1460]

Can someone explain to me why as a sorcerer/wizard with 17 in intelligence and 8 in charisma certain spells use my charisma modifier ?

[@Biggiesmallz33]

How does Str & Dex affect damage and other aspects?

[@xavierdoesntmatter]

Str and Dex don't affect really anything about spells, including damage. There are certain spells that use those stats for saving throws though. Like dex is normally the stat that affects spells with area of effects because you're dodging the spell.

[@Biggiesmallz33]

Ok thanks.. What about the affects on martial weapons?

[@xavierdoesntmatter]

@@Biggiesmallz33 That could be a 5-10 minute video because there is a few potential things that deviate from the norms. In general str gives a bonus to hit with martial and a bonus to damage. In general dex gives a bonus to hit and damage with ranged weapons like bows/crossbows In general str gives a bonus to hit and damage with throwing weapons like axes There are times these rules can be broken like if you have a finesse style weapon (rapiers and daggers usually) which will use your dex IF it's higher than str otherwise uses strength. This is great for dex heavy rogues/rangers. Warlocks with pact of blade get to throw out strength and dex when it comes to melee weapons because binding the weapon makes it use cha instead. I think monks sometimes have a way to use wis instead of str but I don't normally play monks so don't quote me on that.

[@xavierdoesntmatter]

@@Biggiesmallz33 Also something to note is that I'm pretty sure this version does the 1.5 times strength bonus when using a 2 handed weapon or a versitile weapon but nothing in off hand. In that case if you have a +4 from strength you could get +6 instead.

[@Biggiesmallz33]

@@xavierdoesntmatter You're a GOAT thanks

[@ElGarlando]

comments for the almighty algorithm

[@Splitboltxful]

I also lost my hair in my early 20s Sorry did I say early 20s? I meant when I turned 20 Such is life 😂

[@justincampbell5987]

If your mothers father was balding or bald at a young age, you have a higher chance of balding. Makes me fear for my boys lol

[@remortisgaming]

Booo unpredictable spellcasting mechanics boo!

[@mistahwaffles3196]

I truly was waiting for the answer to why you lost your hair in your 20s. No worries, just max out your chaRIZma.

[@LunaRose1312]

So the hair thing, is a chemical produced by testosterone which causes the hair follicles to withdraw, you can prevent it if you catch it early with medication and some natural treatments, sorry to hear you lost your hair bud

[@foamyejay]

For the Al-Gore