The Most AWKWARD And UNNECESSARY Contract Situations Are Getting Worse

[@mmllarchiver]

Jarren Duran just had the best season on the Red Sox and the owner is arguing over pennies and lint while being a billionaire 😭

[@phillipeb]

I agree that it sucks but you don’t make a great team if you’re not willing to ruin your relationship with your top player by going into a meeting where you talk about how bad he is to save half a mil.

[@benjamin1435-k6n]

Tbf he didn’t become a billionaire by the type of advice you’re suggesting. Saying that it sucks.

[@ImGonnasayit]

@@benjamin1435-k6nwhat a bootlicker

[@PaloVerde1414]

So don’t blame the Dodgers for wanting to win 😏

[@MeakH1]

Well the Red Sox did this with Mookie Betts and Bogaerts. The Red Sox management/ownership need to realize that they need to invest in their players not take advantage of the control and let them walk in free agency. ​@phillipeb

[@CalFPS]

Red Soxs: 700mill + for Soto. Also the Red Soxs: Yeah 4 mill is too much Jarren, chill.

[@travis6694]

it’s weird isn’t it? it’s like they really think they don’t owe them much just because they haven’t been in the league for long.

[@cjwild1]

@@travis6694this exact type of thinking is why we have guys getting 10-15 year contracts that have them playing in their 40s way out of their prime. I’d much rather see them pay guys earlier and have them actually be worth the money being paid out.

[@PaloVerde1414]

Dodgers: put their $ where their mouth is 💯

[@jakethesnake1145]

@@cjwild1that’s what u call braves style. Locked all the talent for good while their young esp bargain deal with acuna

[@MeakH1]

Real. The Red Sox don't lose if they offer Duran the agreed amount or offer them more money.

[@pikapal91]

Stroman saying he’s thick skinned is laughable lmaooo

[@thebigcnel]

0 self awareness

[@dooickouski]

Who is the greedy one here: The player asking for a 15% pay raise since he’s been productive or the owner who wants to go to a hearing over 1/10th of 1% of his money.

[@robertbraden4454]

Shorting Tucker in arbitration makes me think the Cubs front office does not talk with each other and lacks a coherent strategy.

[@kenw2225]

Huh? Every team offers less than the player asks for

[@qwertyutopia4667]

@@kenw2225most teams reach an agreement before the arbitration deadline. Especially a player of that caliber who you just traded for.

[@travis6694]

@@kenw2225When you want to sign good players long term, you shouldn’t be penny pinching your best players.

[@MeakH1]

Exactly, its as if the Red Sox are not learning these mistakes. They didn't do this in 2013-2018 ​@@travis6694

[@lw3764]

I'm so pissed at the Cubs ownership right now, they're all about a cash grab and stringing the fans along, I expect nothing good from the Cubs for the foreseeable future because the ownership is so greedy and more interested in squeezing the fans for more money, and buying up more of Wrigleyville, than winning and getting even close to the WS. I'm definitely not going to any games in 2025 and don't plan on watching many of the games, I won't bother with reupping my MLB tv subscription.

[@thaifoodhater4983]

Hey iTalk, thanks for making content that most if not everyone here enjoy day in and day out. I’ll keep supporting your channel and keep up the great work. And for all my other Cali people, Those who Affected by the Eaton and Palasades fire, stay strong, I wish the best for you guys❤️

[@iTalkStudios]

@@thaifoodhater4983 That means a lot thank you!!! And yes prayers to everyone being affected in the LA area

[@NoaEvans-r1d]

D1 glazer

[@thaifoodhater4983]

@@NoaEvans-r1d why are you always dropping negative comments?

[@NoaEvans-r1d]

@@thaifoodhater4983 because it’s funny and I assume you’ve seen more of my comments?

[@SO-if3yn]

@@thaifoodhater4983he’s just having fun, some dry humor. Dont be a Mr. FuddyDuddy

[@ImGonnasayit]

Stuff like this is why I don’t believe the Red Sox made a legit run at Soto. They knew 700 million wasn’t going to do it. I just feel like they got the meeting to say “we tried guys!”

[@iTalkStudios]

According to Ortiz they didn't even hit 600 million so even a "we tried guys" didn't happen it seems

[@MeakH1]

Well offering more money (or any amount) is only one factor of a free agent signing to the team. Look at Juan Soto, there's a reason he went to the Mets.

[@harryparsons2750]

You are spot on. I pray they sell the team to someone who cares about actually winning

[@MeakH1]

@@harryparsons2750 it's a good thing it's not as bad as the Twins. They need to find buyers that will get the Twins to contention (not a twins fan but I live in MN and am a Red Sox fan.

[@datass666]

Won't happen anytime soon...FSG is making money hand over fist​ under the guise of "trying to be competitive" 🙄🙄🙄@harryparsons2750

[@JK4507]

Hey ITalk. Thanks for tackling one of the most misunderstood situations in baseball. But you missed the most critical factor that dictates salary calculations for Arb 4-6 and it's pre Arb 3, the last year of minimum salary. A MLB player's performance in year 3 determines year 4 to 6. Year 3 prodictivity is so crucial because year 5 & 6 is a multipliar of year 4 which solely based on year 3. Agents & GMs know this and almost everyone outside has no idea. Now you know.

[@nathanreynolds6459]

^^ This. I like ITalk's videos but he needs to understand both sides of the story before instantly siding with the player.

[@brianchu3317]

I learned something. Also there are respectful ways for the teams to present their cases in arbitration like using performance metrics that equate to value. Analytical data that is widely accepted. That said, I agree with ITalk that where the difference is relatively small between both sides then just give the damn player what he asked for to avoid damaging the relationship.

[@JK4507]

ITalk - compensation for Year 4-6 (Arb 1 - 3) is so misunderstood. The owners & players agreed to this weird arbitration scheme. No one but agents & GMs are fully aware of all its implications. I told you already...kick ass in Year 3!

[@edomarpez1840]

But if yrs 5 & 6 is only a multiplier of yr 4, then why do the teams need to argue and bring up points to pay less? If that's the case (it's only a multiplier of yr 4) then there should be no arbitrations from either side since the formula is already agreed upon

[@JK4507]

@edomarpez1840 The player's salary for Year 4-6, the last 3 years of team control (Arb 1-3) are literally arbitrated (not calculated like Year 1-3, that's always minimum). That's what the player's union & owners agreed to. My point is that the Year 4 negotiated compensation is solely based on Year 3 performance. If you have a great Year 3, you maximize your earnings from Year 4 to Year 5 to Year 6 like Juan Soto ($17M, $23M $31M for Year 4-6). If Soto had a less than great Year 3, his last 3 years might have looked like this: $6M, $8M, $11M.

[@Flashspeed84YT]

The Red Sox can't afford to break their relationship with Duran. Hope they agree on something

[@119Agent]

Too late. It is going to arbitration. That is the point of this whole video.

[@Mo_Ketchups]

Pedro Guerrero was on Diamond Vision back when they’d show each player’s favorite _food_ or _movie,_ & that kinda swill. Guerrero’s favorite movie was “Chilly Willy cartoons” & food was “Sloppy Joes.”

[@cameron9054]

As a Cubs fan, it makes absolutely no sense what they are doing. They should be trying to extend Tucker at all costs, yet they can’t even settle on arbitration with him. They take a step forwards, then 3 backwards. They take 2 steps forwards, then 5 backwards. Like wtf are they doing? They just want a good player on the team so fans will go to the games. Jed Hoyer and the ownership are really a piece of shit if they don’t figure out what they’re doing and give Tucker an extension.

[@veryforest3937]

Red Sox owner is worth $6 billion. The Red Sox franchise value is $4.5 billion, while the its market value is a little over $2 billion. $500k for Duran is roughly Zero-point-two percent of the market value alone (basically a 5th of a single percentage point). What they're trying to stiff him out of can go into their market value over 4100 times. They wouldn't lose SH!T by paying him that money. It's just a power play designed to put a player in their "place." EDIT: For fun, the Red Sox's owner could pay 12,000 people $500k and still have a little bit left over to retire on.

[@thereboot5247]

Red Sox fan here, screw the owners. We've hated them for years now, but this just proves why. Duran can be a generational player for the team and these greedy guys won't shell out $500k for it but will pay Chapman $11 million

[@elemental11111]

HELL YES! We got to 56.9% boys! Dope as hell to see the updated percentage.

[@JK4507]

Was 59%. Now less than 57%. Love it!

[@paradiseracer2437]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If the Cubs sign Pete Alonso and/or Roki Sasaki, then I think them going to the hearing is fine. But if they are done for the off season, just give Tucker the money

[@samuelsandate9804]

Tucker is gone. Unless he takes a huge discount, he's going somewhere else next year.

[@paradiseracer2437]

@samuelsandate9804 most likely. Because the Cubs are too focused on penny pinching where it doesn't make sense, and spending where it doesn't make sense.

[@nacholibre8628]

That’s why no one considers the Red Sox a big market team because they love to act like a small market team

[@MeakH1]

The Big Market Team scheme was a thing for Boston until they won in 2018. Afterwards it went down the drain.

[@bigpictureguys8415]

If you don’t consider the Red Sox a big market team you’re out of touch with reality. Just because they aren’t willing to spend consistently doesn’t mean they aren’t capable /haven’t. Ask an actual small market team if they consider the Red Sox a big or small market team

[@nacholibre8628]

@ they are fighting with a player over nothing

[@MeakH1]

@@bigpictureguys8415 yes they are a big market team but after 2018 they have been trying to be a low cost/budget team that have only made 1 big extension (Devers)

[@ChaseWalling]

Agreed on Tucker. Such a bad look from the Cubs. Tucker is a hell of a ball player.

[@jakegrisham814]

My understanding for the squabbling over what is small amounts of money for these baseball teams/owners is that present income is a predictor for future income - by reducing the amount they pay the player in arbitration now they "could" save money in the future when it comes time to pay out that large contract. I don't agree with their process - I am personally affected by it (because most businesses in America run the same way and attempt to keep payroll low to bolster their profits on the backs of workers).

[@bigpictureguys8415]

The Duran arb seems like a slap in the face considering how great he was but the Tucker one is far dumber considering they’re trying to sell him on being a cub and avoid free agency.

[@Wtekrz]

I love jarren duran W vid Italk 🔥🔥🔥

[@TheWcollector21]

agreed

[@LordoftheEagles]

Paying players as little as possible for the work they do. So they learn what it's like to work in any corporate American job. Sucks, huh?

[@lordmegatron8444]

Employers and employee relationships are the same regardless of money. Most of us know that if we want more money, we need to go somewhere else, because our companies will nickle and dime us.

[@peterjurasek9297]

Tiger fan here, I got worried af when you were showing a bunch of clips of Skubal in the beginning lmfao

[@MeakH1]

Main concern is having Skubal have another good season again (So he can get a long term extension)

[@thewho2482]

A couple of years ago, Dellin Betances and Randy Levine got into over arbitration. Dellin got trashed by Levine after he pitched to 3 straight allstars. Was the set up man that pitched multiple inings and led relievers in strikeout. Sometimes, the teams should know their target audience. I would take it personally. And i would make them pay in the long run.

[@Curtishim21]

I think he’s the most underrated player in baseball

[@travis6694]

His numbers were nuts I didn’t realize how much he did for the team. The 20 homers and 50 doubles and gold glove defense while stealing bases.

[@smokey_gator_239]

Only one good year, has to do it again.

[@MeakH1]

​@@travis6694he made massive jump from his 3rd season to last year and was a great leader (despite having middle experience).

[@travis6694]

@@smokey_gator_239 This isn’t free agency, having an 8.7 WAR in your season going into your second arbitration year warrants a good salary.

[@smokey_gator_239]

@travis6694 He is 28 years old and had one good season.

[@jlawhonestmusic6565]

There is another reason as to why Kyle Tuckker hasn't received what he wants in arbitration. They could also be negotiating a long term contract extension. All team owners, and GM's have the opportunity to negotiate long term with their arbitration eligible players until the arbitration deadline. That's the entire reason of arbitration. The opportunity to keep a goood player for another season without paying the big dollers yet. Its also the main reason why players are pissed off when they dont receive what they want for that one year of service. Players who want to know if their future playing days are secure. When the team can't agree on a long term asking price, and then they want to be cheap on the 1 yr deal. That should piss off every player. Especially, when they deserve it. These players sacrifice damn near everything. Being with their families, their physical health because of the long season. It's ridiculous. Great video iTalk!

[@smokey_gator_239]

Corbin Burnes lost every playoff game he started for Milwaukee.

[@Necrotog82]

I've played Out of the Park Baseball enough to know how annoying arbitration can get.

[@brandenp1187]

Both are ridiculous. Wow also promised to spend heavy this offseason and their biggest signing was a one year deal for Walker Buehler…

[@goosebeans3888]

There's a much larger ripple effect to just rolling over to player demands, even if at an individual level it makes sense. Baseball's Not Dead did a great video on this a year ago that definitely illuminates why this occurs.

[@thekingofkingsrp]

I'm pissed about Duran.

[@elvisrodriguez2935]

In arbitration i will always side with the players

[@iTalkStudios]

Unless it's preposterous, I agree and it never is preposterous lol

[@spoonful1018]

Why? Most players are paid at least 100x the average wage for playing a kids' game. It's all Monopoly money to me.

[@elvisrodriguez2935]

@@spoonful1018 its a business if it was a kids game everyone could do it

[@toms7114]

Jarren Duran is worth $5 mil in the first year of arbitration, $10 mil in year 2 and $15 mil in year 3 for a team friendly arbitration payments if he keeps playing like he has.

[@thienvu8120]

Henry isn't spending money. He cares about cost per win not winning

[@HTFilms7]

THANK YOU for this video!! My thoughts exactly!! As a cubs fan i def agree with the Tucker assessment. Same with the red sox and duran. I genuinely think that dude is a superstar and will make a mega millions contract. Just pay them a few more dollars!!

[@jacobmccain8082]

The Red Sox are so weird. The Mets would pay 14m without blinking for Duran’s production. If you aren’t gonna pay him, then trade him, especially when it’s this little.

[@AndrewSipkovsky]

Cubs fan here. I have no idea what pills hoyers on.

[@lw3764]

It's because the team is just a cash grab for the Ricketts and Hoyer, they don't give a single shit about winning. At this point it's a giant con.

[@jmhorn]

We should get a movie about the dirty behind the scenes of baseball. That would be super fun to watch.

[@joshlettiere3363]

Thanks for the content man love the video keep it up. Have a good one

[@iTalkStudios]

You as well! Have a nice day appreciate your support it means a lot

[@bigpictureguys8415]

Unless your team is right up against a tax threshold I really don’t understand why a team would ever risk severing a relationship. If you wind up having even a slight interest in retaining them you are likely hurting the odds they’d show you any favoritism in an extension or discount during free agency

[@eljefe38theboss]

Boston did this with Mookie... repeatedly... we all know how that ended up

[@aaacomp1]

and lester too, he bolted for the cubs, and then they had to drop 200 million on price, who sucked ass because he'd rather be playing Xbox. The Sox keep making bonehead decision after bonehead decision starting with Lester.

[@Mo_Ketchups]

I’m a huge fan since I’m a kid (& I’m a fossil now)-this was the FIRST time I found out MLB arbitration is NOT like a civil-case arbitration. You’re pleading to a Star Chamber panel like a BENCH trial?! 👀😮‍💨 I thought you were in a little room w your agent, a disinterested third party, and some asshole from the front office! I done learnt sunpthin today. Good ON ya. 👍✌️😅

[@Trottah]

The 2 most awkward ones have to be the Angels with Luis Rengifo and the Dodgers with Alex Vesia. Rengifo asked for $5.95M and the team countered at $5.8M. You seriously can't bridge a gap of $150K, or about 20% of the league minimum? This is so laughable a difference in the great scheme of baseball salaries. And then the Dodgers -- the literal Dodgers, paying $700M for Ohtani -- and going to argue over $300K ($2.35M vs $2.05M) with Vesia, one of their best bullpen arms. Their payroll is just shy of $300 million, is it really worth the time and paperwork to fight over .1% of that?

[@thecriticalthinker]

I'm not sure I agree with you on this. I get that players should be compensated for their talent but if teams just give players what they want, then every player is going to want an adjustment. Suddenly, 500k here, 250k there, adds up to an extra 20 to 30 mil that the team could have used on additional talent. Again, I'm not saying that players shouldn't be paid but that's what contracts are for. It's the player and his agent's responsibility to ensure that they get their market value when the time comes.

[@KidFresh71]

Did Burnes seriously say: "I can't help what perspired." (instead of "transpired.") lol

[@totallykoolyeah]

Henry's being a real Duran slur about this

[@bigpictureguys8415]

I know it’s easy to see an athlete complaining about hundreds of thousands of dollars and think oh shut up you’re greedy but from their perspective most of these guys see players performing worse making more. Imagine being great at your job, seeing worse employees making more, being told you’re one of (if not) the most important employees. Then they highlight & nitpick every time you had to take a lunch or use the bathroom

[@MrSHERLOCKHOLMES42]

Just another day in FSG's stingy reign. As a fan of Liverpool Football Club who are owned by FSG, we see this every single time, every single season. Owners will simply not address the squad issues by recruitments. It is always penny pinching and the same old "we will wait for the right opportunity" crap we are fed. Yes the club improved drastically under their ownership in last 15yrs.. But we are a great team in 2024-25 needing *just* the push to be regular title winners. We are capable of that. Just address the contract situations of star players, 1 or 2 great signings, and we are there with the very best. But the stingy FSG is not doing it. So, as newbie baseball fan, I am not surprised that they are handling Duran like this. I am sorry guys, with Duran isn't getting the money he wants.. even if he asking for extra $10 💀

[@Notalent1337]

So it's worth pointing out that the way Arbitration works, Arb 1 is by far the most important arbitration to fight. Duran getting 3.5 or 4 seems minor...and it is, but 3.5 means he'll probably get 9 on Arb 2 and 22-24 on Arb 3 if he doesn't get hurt at some point or regress, meanwhile 4 means he'll probably get 12 on arb 2 and 26-28 on arb 3. So they aren't fighting over half a million, their fighting over about 10 million. Honestly, even then I think it's stupid, if they intend to keep Duran for the long term, but I don't think they do. I think they're gonna trade Duran next year or maybe even this year if they get a good enough offer. Duran isn't in their window to compete.

[@MrShoryuken1]

7:55 "what 'perspired' over the past couple weeks"...oh dear lol

[@calvinwood7120]

I don’t think putting all the blame on teams is fair as they’re doing their best to value the player to the specific dollar (undervaluing is going to give you a better chance of losing and paying what the player submits so can really be counterintuitive) both parties prefer to avoid arbitration and teams offer contracts to avoid arbitration that are going to be the value that they submit. Arbitration also scales up in cost pretty aggressively so 500k Arb 1 might be the difference in millions by the time a player is set to be a free agent so “penny pinching” isn’t a fair description when they have a staff of people calculating what someone’s value is… maybe MLBPA can work out a deal where if the two offers are within 10% then the player wins by default and the arbitration process ends right there without the back and forth

[@huhwhatguy]

Owners have to fight because it sets baselines for future contracts.

[@AREALLYBIGSPOON]

GREAT video

[@devn266]

Tucker will get 30-35m per year.. yet hes only filing at 17.5? I wouldve filed at 25.

[@timmy2v]

Most awkward thing is the Goat 🐐 Brent Honeywell Jr isn't signed yet. Give him that 12-Year 560 million dollar contract 😢

[@PANCHO15108]

This joke was hilarious at first. Then I got over it after the 6th time I've seen it. But it's actually funny again.

[@HowToSideHustleOG]

Homies bout to start working at his local grocery store

[@Romanbearbaseball]

I still don’t get it😭

[@tropicanajuice2438]

​@Romanbearbaseball same here. Who the hell is he?!

[@F1Fanatic76]

@@tropicanajuice2438He pitched in relief for the Dodgers this past season.

[@kurumauzamaki2731]

To be fair to the cubs they haven’t had tucker for 1 month and it’s easier to evaluate someone’s worth when they’ve been in an organization since being drafted than 1 month in the organization

[@lw3764]

Dude, Tucker is already a known quantity.

[@playcriticsorg]

Please watch the foolish baseball (I think it was Foolish Baseball, it was a few years ago) video on arbitration. It will enlighten you in a big way as to why what these teams are doing makes sense (at least some sense). It seems like they are arguing over a few hundred K, but they are fighting smaller battles in a war over much more money.

[@nickr3441]

Regarding the luis arraez videos. If his singles are so meangless then jaun sotos walks are also meangless making soto a worthless player.

[@martinalbert29]

It will be fine. I think he will get paid fairly. Hopefully a real extension is being negotiated.

[@DakotaDas]

I’m so sick of the Red Sox low balling all the homegrown talent we produce

[@michaelmarowelli6598]

Guess Duran doesn’t need a tennis racket

[@aaacomp1]

It's pretty easy. Cubs front office=stupid, Sox front office=stupid Maybe they should get lackey out of retirement and pay him 20 million.

[@BroheiOhtani]

Lifelong Yankees fan here, give Jarren $10 million bro

[@harryparsons2750]

So what happens now with Duran? Does he get the 3.5 million? And then become a free agent next year?

[@Twicelovetwicelife]

DID I JUST SEE THAT THE PADRES ARE PAYING LUIS ARRAEZ $14 MILLION??????

[@TylerLonardi]

It sucks to Kyle Tucker and the cubs not agreeing to a contract because I think he can be the next big star there

[@samuelsandate9804]

Delusional. Tucker is a rental. He's signing with another team next year. He's gonna get close to 500 million dollars if not more. The Cubs don't even like to pay contracts over 200+ million dollars.

[@119Agent]

I wonder historically for any particular team if arbitration has gone the way of the team or the player more often. I’m going to see how Red Sox players have done in arbitration recently.

[@arkansasrebel348]

We have a lot of greedy owners!! I wish we had more Steve Cohens!!!!

[@bostons_departed3631]

Ironically we aren’t “allowed” to say that word anymore, but they’re everywhere now. 🙄.

[@goobah1007]

What is the word?

[@wextercandice]

Angels and Rengifo really argued over 150,000 😭

[@iTalkStudios]

Insanity lmao

[@5JasonKidd2]

If I’m a owner and I can sign Jarren Duran for 4Mil I’m laughing all the way to the bank 🤣 Dude is worth a minimum 10Mil next season even if he is half as good in 2024, MLB front office is either too F’ing dumb or too F’ing cheap 🤣

[@StateoftheFranchiseGaming]

I would prefer an NBA or NFL version where players can test the market and get matched

[@samuelsandate9804]

Go away. NFL players literally holdout and even threaten to miss games if they don't get the money the what. How is that good for the sport? Nobody wants hera about guys complaining about money. Fans go to games to watch them play, not to hear about players angry about money. We don't need that in baseball.

[@StateoftheFranchiseGaming]

@samuelsandate9804 NFL players hold out because their contacts are not guaranteed unlike MLB & NBA and they play the sport most harmful to their body. So they have every right to hold out for more money.

[@samuelsandate9804]

@@StateoftheFranchiseGaming yeah, because there's a garbage salary cap, that's why teams don't pay them what they want or make their contracts guaranteed. I get players holding out, because they never asked for a salary cap. The salary cap also didn't stop the Patriots or Chiefs dynasties, so this idea of the parity is total BS. Again, baseball doesn't need that. Players aren't stupid, that's why they already said they will never agree or a salary cap.

[@StateoftheFranchiseGaming]

@samuelsandate9804 I agree baseball doesn't need a salary cap, I'm talking about restricted free agency where teams aren't guaranteed to get the player back and the team who lose a player would get either international money or a comp pick. It also would allow players to be bid against in their prime as opposed to when they are 28-33.

[@Andrew_-nr7zt]

As a cubs fan I am blaming Tom Ricketts and obviously it's a lot more complicated with the pirvate equity investors but holy crap man someone needs to smack some sense into the Ricketts family and get them to spend money and let Jed spend said money

[@Whitesox_joey]

It could be worse because you could have the Reinsdorfs owning your team 😭

[@nickhughes8179]

Or you could have a front office of Mark Shitpilo and Loss Shatkins

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

Arb meetings arent that big of a deal most of the time. In a lot of arb meetings it has to do with players missing time because of injury or not playing enough over the course of the season. So take like Alex Vesia for example, the Dodgers want to pay him less because hes had availability issues same with Tucker who's injured a lot. Now some arb meetings are as you said, but the most of the meetings are down to missing time or not playing at the level they want to pay for, for a period of time. Some players get super hot near the end of the year, and then want a ton of arb money. The team then says, OK, what about the first half of the year? At the end of the day too, sometimes these players value themselves (rightfully so) higher than their value might be. Thats why arb exists. For Durant, I bet you, the Red Sox will say he diminished his value, and the value and integrity of the team because he said a homophobic slur. I get what you are saying but it comes across from someone who sounds like you don't understand how long term value effects business. Arb numbers will only go up from here, so of course a team wants to take advantage of getting a player at a value price. They can't just give into every demand because they the team loses all leverage. Arb is great because both sides get to argue their value when players don't have enough history to determine a long term value.

[@MeakH1]

Duran had the most AB in the league and missed only 2 games because of conduct (calling someone a name). He should be paid reasonably not dimed a nickel.

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

@@MeakH1 He also made a comment that went beyond baseball and potentially ruined his name and the Red Sox. There are repercussions to being a homophobe to fans and the Red Sox could contend in arb that his actions lowered his value and the potential value of the team.

[@MeakH1]

@@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo his comment boosted jersey sales. This didn't affect the Team by any chance (Other than losses and wins in the season). To which these games Duran missed is not enough to debate that the Team would make it to the playoffs or perform worse.

[@275Vet-RLTW]

It's crazy to me how many ppl don't understand how the business end works. Arbitration, dfa's, free agency!

[@JK4507]

There's a huge black hole of ignorance regarding arbitration. Year 3 performance determines Year 4 (Arb 1). Year 5 (Arb 2) can be 2x the comp of the previous year. Same for Year 6 (Arb 3). If you are an MLB player, just know this... Only Year 3 (not Year 1 or 2) dictates your compensation for Year 4-6.

[@joshuastar77]

Good thing the Rangers havent had one of these in 25 years, LETS GO.

[@arkay9789]

Good video

[@A.C.T1997]

Kyle Tucker is for sure going to be a Cub for a year. You spend the time and prospects to trade for a dude just to mistreat him? What are you doing? You think Tucker will take a discount?

[@alexm.6533]

I hate being a cubs fan

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

blue balled...we call that catfished. Doesn't matter the setting.

[@Bethbutucancallmechandra]

It was durans first year being productive i kind of underatand kinda feels like 1 hit wunder

[@beerussama7093]

Alex vesia and the dodgers right now 😅

[@MatthewVasquez-x9s]

can we js get free agency done and the mlb season to start 😭😭

[@soundhead18]

Duran IS batter than Juan Soto!

[@Bohdisattva3.7]

Pay the man (Tucker) his monnnaay… Rounders

[@cstackss]

Is Mr. Crabs Rob Manfred?

[@victortsai888]

Michael King

[@basedjenny7362]

Stroman is a funny dude

[@justadude2800]

I’m a Red Sox fan. I’m glad the Red Sox wouldn’t give Jarren Duran the extra 500k. Yep. Yep. Really. I’m thrilled. Really.

[@kenw2225]

Yea I'm pumped.

[@aaacomp1]

i'm surprised we have any fans left after all of the bone head decisions the front office has been making since 2018

[@dre32pitt]

This vid doesnt cover arbitration that well.. checkout Baseball Is Not Dead's Arbitration video from last year.. really explains why teams seem to 'pinch pennies' when it comes to arbitration deals

[@NateZContent]

Well well well

[@marrzy]

If you look back arbitration destroyed Dellin Betances

[@noylakers9755]

What's the confusion here? Baseball is a business, simple as that. Just to be clear, I'm not talking about right or wrong here. Teams just don't want to give a player an extra 500k because there could potentially be two more years where that player would ask for more and more. If teams do give a player more money during their arbitration years, then his teammates would want to do the same. Players have the right to sign 10-15 yr contracts knowing they'll be complete garbage the last few years. Owners have the right to shortchange these young guys. If players want to change this system, owner might ask to put a max contract duration in the bargaining agreement in return. There is always going to be a give and take with the salary system.

[@tommyfu9271]

Sure that's all fine and good but pissing off a really good player over a negligible amount of money relatively speaking makes no sense long term.

[@noylakers9755]

@@tommyfu9271 You know of many stars not resign with their original team because he got screwed over 500k in arbitration? The vast majority accept that this is the system in place. They just let their agents handle it.

[@tommyfu9271]

@@noylakers9755 hard to say exactly but something like pissing off Burns over 500k seems really short sited to me in the grand scheme of things. That's a rounding error these days.

[@jdsthird]

Is this the same guy that made a slur to a fan? Or was that someone else? If players really did things that the team wants to bring up in arbitration they should. Everyone gets evaluated. Comes with every job. No one does everything perfectly. Foul Territory podcast talked about how the players Union sometimes wanting to go to arbitration to set a precedent for future players. Arbitration is not always a negative thing. It’s necessary.

[@nicholascorrenti857]

11:15 here’s ur answer. Many words have many meanings…

[@jdsthird]

@ All I hear is an excuse. Doesn’t erase the slur. A 20 year old using a term that meant something else 70 years ago makes zero sense. He should just own it, apologize, take his medicine and move on. We don’t know if he’s used similar language around teammates. That would be handled in house not in the media and press. Let them handle their business. He will win or lose in arbitration and life goes on. Keep calm and carry on.

[@joeblow5106]

Oh no a slur! Oh no. He should never work again.

[@jdsthird]

@ Don’t be silly. He’s a big boy and can take his medicine. Stop treating him like some precious gem stone. He’s human. We all make mistakes and part of life is learning from them. All actions have consequences and the team can deal with it as they see fit. He’s fortunate to make millions playing baseball. Stop the drama. Life goes on. Keep calm and carry on.

[@dre32pitt]

@@nicholascorrenti857 im my experience, the guys who said it the most ended up being gay lol

[@bretadounitedfc]

⚾️🔥🔥

[@davepangburn]

If iTalk (sorry, dude, can't remember your name) is incredulous of the Red Sox being miserly with Jarren Duran, don't be. This is John Henry trying to be consistent with he who has become over the last half-dozen years. Scrooge McDuck clipping coupons out of the grocery ads in the paper, looking for nickels & dimes on the sidewalk as he walks down streets in his bathrobe. Or at least it feels that way. The 2nd Act of Henry's story has certainly been an interesting character arc. Though the Sox finally seemed to have cracked open the checkbook this off season (or at least fake it with some leaked stories), the Duran story sounds like John Henry suddenly remembered who he is. Good luck, Breslow.

[@rockyhamilton1023]

When buddy jumped out of the car I LOST IT 🤣🤣🤣

[@TK-tl6ci]

It’s not really as simple as most fans think it is. If you give into a players want, you’re setting precedent not just for your club, but the whole league. Look at what happened this past year. Shohei just set a new standard for top player contracts, now Soto wants better. Would Soto have been asking for 700+ if Ohtani didn’t get it? Or would he be asking for higher than judges contract? Every contract for every player sets a precedent and every time an owner gives into a players demand, it affects every other club.

[@a_bich-]

this team has had the second most expensive tickets in the mlb behind the dodgers…. they can afford to not lowball their homegrown talent that is also a fan favorite lol

[@saemonno-suke9959]

this is literally the worst channel on youtube

[@JorgeAC1]

Cubs owner Tim Ricketts is pissing off Cub fans with his constant cheap axx moves. He’s not spending and cries broke.

[@Seanaynay117]

12:55 is an analogy. iykyk